/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>Day 5
good job, retarded capipi

EEEEEEEEEEH? DIVEGRASS??

eh, divegrass?

You got the day right, this time.

Let's go!

CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY

>>85186415
mmmmmmmmmmm, pankos cunny

>>85186415
plapping all three of these cunnies with no survivors

Kiki will be restreaming /pyon/ vs /uuu/ later, come watch with her!

https://youtu.be/G7ED-WfFDis
https://youtu.be/G7ED-WfFDis
https://youtu.be/G7ED-WfFDis

>>85186358
Im a Yukimin, actually

>>85186635

post your HUH? face to get another red card today

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>>85186992

/pcg/

>>85187764
Double KWAB

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>>85186330
Any anons here have Beeb's youtube VOD of yesterday matches? I already have part 1 but missed the part 2.

>>85188500
its on >fun

>>85188500
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J71p9jF3n1U

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>>85188552
>>85188557
SANKYUU

>>85186992

BELLY EROTIC

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>>85186992

Will there be a Quick Tourney for the eliminated teams again?

>>85191055
maybe

>>85191055
Tabun maybe.

WE GOT A BICYCLE

what the fuck was that perfect volley

i fucking love it when that happens

>that goes on the highlight reel
what, /pyon/'s only goal?

managed teams suck

>>85192157
/pyon/ is not managed

total manager death

>>85192177
simple, the commisioner makes pyon lose because everyone cheers when they do

Seeing all these managed teams just make the most retarded moves in the game makes me question why they even allow them to begin with. This is why VGL is way more entertaining because you know there's going to be an actual match instead of these predictable scorefests when it's manager vs. auto.

>>85192157
This is an auto vs auto game

/pyon/'s manager should be sacked

Dear I fear we are facing a problem.

>>85192464
This

very organic posts, /4ccg/. next time look at /pyon/'s wiki before posting

>>85192248
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>>85192464
see >>85192177

>>85192506
Tears running down your face as you type this post

>>85192544
mad I called you out, retard? go the fuck back

Brazil bros....

>>85192843
lmao

>>85192928
gigi... not like this...

>>85192928

I THINK FAUNA SUCKS

>>85193227

>>85192928
Why are we still here? Just to suffer?

>>85193135
impressive cope

>>85193364
It's an obvious joke

>>85193227
GG, happy to have finally gotten revenge for vtl4

>>85193588
A team actually managed by the chuuba herself? That'd be interesting.

/uuu/ is about to copyright strike nepolabo for these plays

IT'S ALMOST TIME

>blue keepers

>>85193858
I'd love this.

FUCK YEAH

>>85195262
>get 2 keepers
>both are blue

>>85195659
Absolutely rubbish.

A game for the ages

DIVINATORS CONSORT WITH EVIL FORCES

NOOOOO MIO DON'T PREDICT THESE, THEY ARE GONNA ACTUALLY HAPPEN, MIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Bee-K.O.

I love phase now

hell yeah

fucking faggots

Leave phasecucks to me.

Another great day for PhaseGODS.

Why is it still called /jidf/ after the jews were expelled.

>>85198410
to make you mad specifically

>>85198410
name has been changed
jew->jap
as such, new name is /jidf/

Never let Cipher commentate a Phase match again

>>85198410
/jidfx/

Meme on a nigga who tries the run game for you niggas

>>85198727
It's how we show love

Rate the Mion

>>85198853
I want to breed this witch.

WHAT?

I fucking blinked and jews are already rigging wtf

>>85199171
more specifically, which jews?

>>85199242
Both apparently, it's a jew-off

>>85199242
Yes

matches are kind of poop today

bump

I hate that Fauna clip

>>85200883
Yeah weak day, the only good matches were nepolabo/awat and uuu/pyon.

my money

a hex upon this match.

Love that /tsunX/ goalhorn

I'm feeling nostalgia from that absolutely ridiculous /mayo/ side from the /vt/ League 5 that seemed unbeatable. Now the team seems average.

>champion vs champion match

Kill Dizzy.

>it's over

Flipian out

>>85202208
BURN THAT WITCH

>*kills PES*

I MISS HIMMM I MISS BEEEEEBBBSSS

>>85203496
heavy is the head that bears the crown

We're so Beeback

>Judgement day is coming.

N O T H I N G

what a rigfest
I love the /vt/League

brrrrrrt

>>85204559
best keeper of all time since the legendary moona of the /jp/ era

>attendance has plummeted the entire cup
>125 posts for a whole day
this shit is so dead.
PES16 killed the league.

>>85206935
The matches yesterday were a lot more hype desu

>>85206935
Too many teams nobody cares about + a PES that gives not so fun games = not a great time

>>85206935
Everyone watching the stream is a regular, and it's fun as always. Tourists can be gud, but a comfy league isn't a bad thing either.

>>85206935
>numberfagging divegrass

>>85207951
kill yourself phasecuck

>>85208577
Ah, I see. You're some catalogfag mad at phase for existing and want their teams removed from the league. I think it's past your bedtime, SEA anon.

>>85206935
>too many redundant teams
>too many one sided games and not enough drama
>the child-like enthusiasm of great fanbases like /pyon/, /lia/ etc has been raped from them
>beebs sounds tired and distracted
>passionless commentators
take your pick

>>85208781
Erm yesterday was hyp as fuark, thoughever

>>85208781
over-complicated group stage format doesn't help either

>>85209102
this is probably the simplest group stage format the league has had in 3-4 leagues.
thunderdome is shit.

3 teams making it per group is an improvement.

i just dont find red arrow keepers matches interesting.
they are always a slurpfiesta

will rrat be bottom of the league

dead thread dead league

I like the league

>>85208981
>yesterday's thread, on a Friday when people are at work, reached bump limit by the time the last game ended
>today, on a Saturday when people are more available, it isn't even at 150 posts
there is an engagement issue to be sure

>>85209300
conditions literally don’t matter

>9 games
>9 wins
Damn

If my team won I would post more. I’m simply too sad to care right now.

>>85208781
>>too many redundant teams
who are you here to anti?

>>85209876
They had one "bad" league, and an adjacent thread of theirs won it undefeated. This is actually unreal, apart from /doog/ in the groups and a couple of other teams in specific leagues I've never seen a team play so well.

>>85210094
you know who

>>85210161
I don't

>/holoX/ has 15 wins in 19 total matches.

>>85210333
as the commissioner intended

>>85210396
fat orcas sure are cool

>>85210333
It's really funny how the only non in-form team that they lost against was /GGG/ in the VTL 4. Even that /skynet/ side from the VTL 5 was convincing, this team is fucking unbelievable.

>>85210564
now watch them lose to /choc/ for the lulz.

damn holox' wiki page looks like a fandom wiki if it was sovl
how can other teams make it that customizable?

I think the biggest problem with the league is that Holofans simply don’t care about Divegrass to the same degree as Phasefans.
/holoX/ baked a new thread for the match and hardly got 15 posts in it and hardly anyone showed up in chat.
Meanwhile even Phase splits will go through hundreds of posts in their generals and show up in droves to support their teams on stream.
If every team had fans with half the excitement and enthusiasm that Phase teams have (despite their teams mostly sucking major balls) then the league would be much more enjoyable.

>>85210658
They're making it out of the groups anyway, and I honestly wonder who can stop them. Maybe /doog/ or /uuu/ with meme magic, but it doesn't seem enough.

I had a lot of fun today, anons. I hope you did too. Cheer on your teams and give everyone a great show!

>/GGG/ beat /holoX/ twice in its history

>>85210714
by having someone who can get into HTML
just talk to the team manager and offer your help

>>85210742
kill yourself phasecuck

I enjoyed today

>>85211215
It was decent enough, even if once again /tsunX/ stole the day with its cursedness. Yesterday had better matchups and goals though, hoping for a better wrap up of round 2 now

>>85210714
There are a bunch of wikis in this league with a lot of autism poured into them.
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//lia/
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//ybc/
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//mayo/
to name a few.

>>85211215
Every matchday is great since Beebs and BBB are there :)

>>85210742
/#/ gets easy 150 posts just about the matches when they areon, and our reward is eating shit with /doog/
It is what it is. For irrelevant threads, the day they win a match it's the biggest thing that happens in their entire month. If /#/ won a league, I don't think it would be the biggest thing of that day

>>85211495
I like the /lia/ one

>>85210941
>>85211215
Same, every single time.

/#/? More like /num8er2/.

I'd eight two be a /#/ fan when they lose to /doog/ again tomorrow

>>85211796
>>85211904
Nah, we'd win

>>85211993
I'm rooting for you guys. Go get'em

>>85212137
nobody actually roots for /#/

If you ever feel sad, remember that /doog/ somehow managed to never win the league.

She kinda looks like Uruka

>>85212815
look at this liker

>>85212600
But they put on a fantastic show for everyone. That's what matters.

>>85211495
>Konkoyo means Konkoyo
Kek

Like a gleam from the blue, it's time for the Gambling Carnage Review.
Day 5. Some depressing upsets today, but keep heart.

Total winnings for today were $47,632,861,384. Total winnings for the entire league so far have been $259,469,035,210.
24 unique gamblers participated today, of which 1 bet for the first time this league.
The match with the highest pot today was /jidf/ vs /nasfaqg/, at $24,106,495,856
The match with the highest number of gamblers today was /pyon/ vs /uuu/, at 21 unique gamblers.
4 gamblers have not won a single bet the entire league.

Top 3 matches today (by betting odds):
>/mayo/ vs /tsunX/ - 4.9:1
>/jidf/ vs /nasfaqg/ - 2.7:1
>/nepolabo/ vs Amelia Watson Appreciation Thread - 1.9:1

Top 3 matches today (by Profit Rate):
>/nepolabo/ vs AWAT - 64.7%
>/jidf/ vs /nasfaqg/ - 61.1%
>/mayo/ vs /tsunX/ - 57.1%

Top 5 Money Matches (all days):
>Day 3, Match 6 - /nasfaqg/ vs /2434/ :: $27,838,074,063
>Day 5, Match 5 - /jidf/ vs /nasfaqg/ :: $24,106,495,856
>Day 3, Match 7 - /jidf/ vs /mayo/ :: $13,285,527,174
>Day 4, Match 6 - Lia vs /brg/ :: $12,887,129,166
>Day 4, Match 2 - /morig/ vs /pcgen3k/ :: $12,704,916,263

Here's the current ranking of teams, based on how much money people have bet on them so far.
Note that the play-in matches are counted in this dataset, hence /wvt/'s appearance.

>1 - /nasfaqg/ - $15,905,092,273
>2 - /vtwbg/ - $6,494,060,454
>3 - /jidf/ - $6,006,878,360
>4 - /morig/ - $5,587,019,394
>5 - /choc/ - $3,580,121,885
>6 - /2434/ - $3,989,345,152
>7 - /mayo/ - $3,904,990,405
>8 - /mogu/ - $3,469,362,727
>9 - /awat/ - $3,350,556,415
>10 - /nepolabo/ - $3,339,726,542
>11 - /brg/ - $3,284,616,187
>12 - /hlgg/ - $3,120,728,132
>13 - /HiRyS/ - $3,102,986,669
>14 - /lia/ - $3,078,535,277
>15 - /pink/ - $3,072,972,905
>16 - /pcg/ - $3,011,060,810
>17 - /manstars/ - $2,935,355,405
>18 - /baubau/ - $2,814,714,033
>19 - /uuu/ - $5,533,595,454
>20 - /wah/ - $2,764,936,315
>21 - /hfz/ - $2,546,482,727
>22 - /skynetFC/ - $5,031,910,810
>23 - /who/ - $2,515,229,118
>24 - /tsunX/ - $2,233,182,678
>25 - /pyon/ - $2,200,837,273
>26 - /mint/ - $1,760,494,444
>27 - /AG/ - $1,586,464,315
>28 - /mion/ - $1,463,726,667
>29 - /pcgia/ - $1,315,262,678
>30 - /holoX/ - $1,266,217,905
>31 - /warkop/ - $1,199,885,783
>32 - /nijiEN/ - $974,021,015
>33 - /doog/ - $1,581,474,373
>34 - /rrat/ - $743,293,638
>35 - /pcgen3k/ - $707,559,898
>36 - /suuji/ - $1,346,244,143
>37 - /numbers/ - $1,033,445,678
>38 - /fig/ - $874,645,454
>39 - /tactical/ - $825,100,000
>40 - /lig/ - $791,887,878
>41 - /hag/ - $788,554,545
>42 - /wvt/ - $355,910,810
>43 - /justice/ - $646,244,143
>44 - /GGG/ - $645,110,810
>45 - /vrt/ - $544,365,656
>46 - /fvr/ - $486,698,688
>47 - /ybc/ - $393,388,357
>48 - /HAHA/ - $387,554,545
>49 - /vsj+/ - $331,913,053

numbers
Day 1 Gold: /lig/ vs. /ybc/
Day 2 Gold: /lia/ vs. /warkop/
Day 3 Gold: /uuu/ vs. /pcgia/
Day 4 Gold: /lia/ vs. /brg/
Day 5 Gold: /pcgia/ vs. /mion/

make of this what you will

>>85217028
Most influential hag

>>85215636
>>85216553
Interesting, thank you.

>>85217028
>lia and pcgia have double golds
>have 1 point between them
grim

>>85217028
3 hololive golds
holo world
holo league

>>85210742
i wonder about the long term health of the lia divegrass team. you cannot expect them to stick around and keep watching if they keep getting their teeth kicked in.
they still show up and have never made it out of a group stage, have been murdered, and at a certain point they will stop caring. triangle needs to teach their managers what the fuck to do or needs to convince aname out of retirement if he is ever ready to return to shadow them.
same with pyon.

>>85219273
It's a new league on a new PES. Some will be quick to pick up what works and some are going to eat dirt while they figure it out. Both /lia/ and /pyon/ (and /rrat/ for that matter) have experienced the highs that divegrass can deliver, but it can't be all highs. The reason that teams like /doog/ and /holoX/ are such anomalies is their ability to be consistently dominant across games and rulesets, but that's the exception that proves the rule. PES is inherently inconsistent.
Nobody was concerned about /morig/ when they went 2 entire calendar years without a win. Taking the hits and getting back up is part of the game.

Alright, I have made my bets. Good luck everyone, and may the DrawGODS bless you with same goals results

>>85219273
>triangle needs to teach their managers what the fuck to do
lmao their manager literally won the VTL Academy which was a thing to teach new managers how to manage
I don't know what has gone wrong with them but it is dire.

literally just use autos simple as

>>85219273
Fuck off Aname nobody likes you.

>>85219862
the way in which /lia/, /rrat/, /wah/ and /pyon/ are getting drubbed is uncanny. These are not just loses, these are WOAT loses. 27 interceptions given for Lia in their last game, a record. The record for worst GD is -9. 3 of them could clear that easily.

>>85220246
PES 16 hates Australia.
PES 16 is also stupid and thinks "Lia" is short for "Australia".
/wah/'s always been a lower-midcarder.

>>85220329
>/wah/'s always been a lower-midcarder.
so has /lia/ they have never come close, but their posters are loud and act like they are a top card team.
they have a lot fo fan support and are over, but to my earlier point how long is that gonna last before they stop caring and showing up and became just another team? i just hope their managers know what they have and don't continue to waste away their potential.

>>85215636
>>Day 5, Match 5 - /jidf/ vs /nasfaqg/ :: $24,106,495,856
>>85216553
>>1 - /nasfaqg/ - $15,905,092,273
so much money lost lmao

>>85220702
>but their posters are loud and act like they are a top card team
I’ve never once seen them act like they’re hot shit or like they’re some kind of worldbeater. I think you might be projecting your insecurity a little simply because they actually have fans that show up and are passionate about the team
>how long is that gonna last before they stop caring and showing up and became just another team?
You know nothing about Lia’s fans if you think there’s any chance of that ever happening
This might be a shocker to fair weather fans and shallow retards like you but good divegrass fans show up to watch memeball regardless of how shit their team is. Good divegrass fans don’t doompost like a whiny bitch about a team they know nothing about

>>85221361
you can only go for so long before the passion of a fanbase who gets stomped dies out
look at /pcg/ themselves. they might make knockouts, but the support is much less than it has been in years gone by. that is what being a loser does.

>>85221953
For every /pcclgg/ who are mired in chuuba drama and stopped giving a shit about board events there's still a bunch of teams who never got a whiff of victory yet still show up. I don't know why you're adamant about the mutual exclusivity of good performance and fan support.

>>85222198
Phase keeps throwing more teams at /vtl/ because they're only in it for a win. Watch them vanish after they get one.

>>85222432
that's not how splits work you retard

>>85222506
You don't need all the splits either. Just leave the cantankerous capipi somewhere and have one thread.

>>85222586
>>85222432
>complaining about phase having too many teams
>none of them have actually come close to winning often enough to prevent /yourthread/
>not a word about a koyori thread having won 2 leagues in a row
i don't actually care who wins how many times or if players get over represented but if that's your issue then complaining about phase shouldn't be your first choice

Now say all that without crying

>>85223181
>not a word about a koyori thread having won 2 leagues in a row
Not only that
>/mayo/ won VTL5 undefeated, only taking a single draw in the group stage. They are directly responsible for the infamous FL8V0RTOWN incident that has become /fvr/'s legacy in the league.
>/holoX/ won VTL6 undefeated, not even taking a draw, and is still undefeated, on a 9-match official win streak. They are currently one of the favorites to take the cup.
>The only player in /pink/ that consistently performs well, regardless of position, has been Invasion of the Joshus.
We need to round up the Joshus and quarantine them.

>>85223615
YATTA

>>85222198
>a bunch of teams who never got a whiff of victory yet still show up
name them, especially those who have (or had) the fanbase size of phase

pcg is not the numbers juggernaut this cup that always have been

>>85210742
>/holoX/ baked a new thread for the match
That's simply not true. The bread was due because the old one reached the bump limit.
Can you really complain about some caretakers who give their best to stand out and just suffer from JP numbers?
I mean, check the wiki pages mentioned in >>85211495 There are some people really investigating time into the presentation of their teams. How can you blame them?

>>85222198
nah it is like /numbers/
they looked like a big team destined for things, but they haven't won and it has hurt them and hurt the league. this is what happens when a hot team with a strong base emerges, they fuck it up, and then people slowly stop showing up to watch their games and they just become team #36

you need teams with that energy instead of boring shit like joshu. they are no energy teams and the league has suffered because of it

phase connect has 5 teams and still couldn't draw flies to shit

>>85235176
4 teams.
every match day a phase team has played? a phase team has had the highest attendance

>>85222198
/lig/ is famous for living on the edge of the playoffs and usually getting cucked in some cosmic fashion but they are are probably one of the more consistent drawing teams.

>>85236817
we have record low viewers you retard

>>85237046
>the league is dying as a whole
>this is /pcg/s fault

>>85237171
that's right

>>85237273
meds

>>85237046
sounds like a tma issue that needs to be solved. the answer isn't more teams, or live managers, or keeping up with what 4cc and vgl are doing, that is for sure.

>>85237679
more viewers might tune in if 5 of the teams weren't exactly the same

>>85238258
and which 5 are those?

who is canonically the strongest character in /vtl/? i'd assume it's Koyori because she's involved at two teams that became champions (or maybe 3 if you count Yubicraft as Joshukun bot even though she joined later), unless i missed someone else.

>>85238974
Koyori supplanted Nene as the power character in divegrass

how I fix vtl.
>too many off season games. they have given away big money matches away for free in meaningless games.
>randomize autopilot tactics to end the joshu favoritism
>hard cap teams at 40
the league has a more is less problem. more games and more teams = less interest

>>85238974
the current battle for supremacy is koyo, mio and nenemachines

I never managed to watch games live that much before so I'm really enjoying the league this time, chat feels cozy enough, most matches are hype, I think helping a bit with the lore for one of the teams made me too attached but I'm enjoying watching it all unfold in real time instead of just binge watching VODs later

>>85240159
>Hmm yes let me suggest contracting several of the best preforming teams in the league

>>85240159
new rule: a vtuber can only be represented on 1 (one) team.
watch the quality of the league improve 10 fold. the games will matter a lot more and it will get us down to 32 teams.

>>85240159
/ag/ should be redundant because /tsunx/ is back

>>85240159
>/vsj/ not in the off topic category instead of elder teams

>>85240668
the fact we still have a team for a company that's been dead for nearly 2 years is kind of wild

>>85240668
/tsunx/ being back is everything that is wrong with the league.
when lia from phase connect graduates, are you niggers going to let them keep a team?

>>85240159
i like how suuji and # are NOT labelled as "off-topic" here despite being a team for a specific vtuber.

Since we are spouting retarded bullshit takes, here's my stupid idea: We align teams in "Confernences" based on themes. IE the Indie thread like /lig/, /tact/, /pyon/, /wvt/, /mint/, and /haha/ in an Indies Conference, the /pcg/ related teams, /vsj/, and /jidf/ in EN corpos, the JP Holo teams in a group, the EN holo teams in a group, ect. It won't really do anything about the team numbers but it'd create built in rivalries and more incentive to watch money match games

>>85240816
The Vtuber Formerly Known as Lia from Phase Connect will win VTL9

>>85240923
despite not being*

>>85240994
>>85240923
They still discuss vtuber related topics unlike any of the teams in off topic

>>85240953
oh god I can hear Beebs on the call now

>>85240737
and yet the crown lives, for it shall be the last thing standing

>>85241085
>noombers
>vtuber related topics

Friendly reminder that all numbers talk come from 4ccg tourists

>>85241085
>/nasfaqg/ discusses holo performance metrics all the time, because they're core to how the game functions.
>/vtwbg/ has multiple projects that involve vtubers.
>/hfz/ uses vtuber current events for each of its feds and has been featured in actual vtuber streams.
>Yubicraft was basically the unofficial Phase Connect server for years. Arguably still is to a lesser extent.
>/fig/'s entire existence is built on a vtuber fighting game, and they routinely talk about chuubas that are playing various fightans.
Are you retarded, or do you just play a retard on TV

>>85241261
Maybe if you wipe the tears streaming down your fat face you can finally see the 4ccg boogeyman

>the matchday ended almost 6 hours ago
>not even 250 posts
>last 100 posts are posts talking about why the league is dying
>people refuse to admit there is a problem and want to justify all the no fan team bloat
grim

>>85240668
/ag/'s debut was ruthlessly postponed for years and with inflation being on the rise worldwide I guess they won't run out of material anytime soon, /tsunXa/ controls everything from the shadows to the point of even crashing a match today, they deserve a spot

>>85241578
Tri and Beebs are like cat ladies: they think they dont have a problem and will stop at 16, then next thing you know, there are 49 strays shitting and pissing everywhere inside the house

>>85241547
not my fault your league doesnt have the same kind of investment

>>85242695
only 180 people showed up to watch the reigning champions today in the main event on a Saturday.
doesn't seem like anybody is invested.

>Numberfagging for fun board events

>>85242960
it's just a rib

>>85222198
nah the phase teams are losing interest.
/pcg/ hasn't had the highest viewed match of the day and they have played twice. the bubble has burst with them they used to be a +100 bonus
/lia/ is at high risk of its fans giving up on the the team because they are getting destroyed and still cant make a knockout in 3 leagues
nobody gives a fuck about the other 2

>>85242960
I will never understand this, these games are an escape from the cruel state of real life divegrass, where things are perhaps even more rigged.

>>85242960
>>85243126
This very thread more than half the posts in it are talking about why the leagues is in trouble and dying. More people are invested in that than the actual games. That is a problem.
Ignore the problem all you want.

>>85243102
>nobody gives a fuck about the other 2
you could say the same about half the holo teams and the nijiJP team

>>85243441
everybody cares about holo teams, and nijiJP is at least only one team instead of 5

>>85243441
I do think people care about certain individual teams. frankly individual teams are just better overall. there is civic pride involved. it is my 1 chuuba vs your 1 chuuba.
afterall, civic pride is the entire point of sport.

>>85243246
I can self reply in a thread pretty much all day with 4chanx and try to convince people it's a universal opinion too

Can't let the thread die now

>>85240159
>/vtautism/ teams are off-topic
KYS

>>85241182
Is that audio from signalis?

Hi guys, can someone explain to me whay, Camila changed her mind about the Loli shit? I mean, everyone knows that Shondo Lolibaits... so what changed? she does not view lolicons as pedos anymore?

>>85249510
bro check your tabs

>>85249510
are you lost sir?

>>85238581
Depending on who you watch and like it could he Hololive of Phase connect

>>85240159
I'm just glad there's one /justice/ team rather than 4. Beyond that I think you're retarded anon

>>85240159
>/wah/
>doesn't show up
We've been shit for years, but we've been there for just as long. Never dare to insult the founding fathers of this league, and respect the Holoboard, because no one gives a shit about viewers.

>>85240159
what does ''doesn't show up'' even mean you double nigger retard

>>85248734
yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=511OLfslNYc

>>85251468
nice

I hope that there'll be an underdog winner in this league. That /hirys/ win when they got out of the thunderdome with a 5-4 win and 1 GD, won in the quarters in extra time and won the semis with an added time winner was fucking kino.

/hirys/ are a fucking FRAUD

>>85252853
clean tackle play on

>>85252853
Clean tackle btw.

Where is yesterday's vod?

>>85240953
Only if they change their name to Lia from Phase Connect X

>>85240159
>doesn't show up
I've seen multiple chatters with the /wah/, /mint/, and /haha/ flairs even when their teams aren't playing. So what do you mean by "doesn't show up"? There seems to be more interest in those generals about divegrass than a lot of the bigger and quicker generals.

>>85250419
It's always been a thinly veiled way to anti phase ever since VTL5 when the lia team was made, no wonder people are getting tired of it

the league should be capped to 32 teams, 36 to be really generous, anything more than that will have redundant filler teams with dubious POI and unfunny rosters

>>85255168
>POI
you're right, there are threads that are barely on the board these days but still have teams

Obviously we need to split things into a Major and Minor league

>>85240159
>numbertrannies
>not off topic

>>85255729
There aren't enough lolituber threads for a minor league.

>>85240159
wait a second...
>no /ggg/, even if it's both redundant and doesn't show up
I can't believe this exquisite shitpost was made by a chumbud...

>>85255854
sorry bro, but the hulk hogan of vtubing can't be excluded

>>85255791
It's just /jidf/, /GGG/, /pyon/ playing over and over again like schizos for 80 matches

How do we save /pyon/?

>>85255938
by making Kiki manager/caretaker

>>85255729
You joke but having a vtl babby might unironically save the (main) league

>>85257416
I think the idea has been posited before, but I don't know how feasible it'd actually be in practice

>>85257416
/biz/ idea: a format where teams stay up or go in the babby league depending on form, and then can advance up to the final, but the true final is between the winners of both leagues.

>>85250419
I have much more or a problem with stuff like choc, pink, fig, ag, tsunx etc

>>85259602
/fig/ is pure kino, you're literally like those soulless mutt investors who don't see what makes a league good.

>>85259699
No fans team that has chuubas who are on other teams so are redundant. Shit like /fig/ and /pink/ are the /xs/ of vtl.

>>85259602
>Exclusively takes issue with some of the most consistently entertaining teams in the league

>>85259894
Absolutely no one gives a fuck about who has the more fans, I enjoy watching /fig/ and /hfz/ dozens of times more than I enjoy watching /pcg/ or /#/, even though the latter bring more people. Stop numberfagging about something that is just supposed to be fun, and just enjoy the divegrass.

>>85260069
Viewership is down 150% and the Saturday games were so “hype” and “entertaining” it generated no posts. Instead the same GDT has been up for nearly 24 hours and 200 of the posts are about how low the interest level in the league is

>>85260244
No one fucking cares, if it's to bring newfags it's better this way. 8-2 by the way.

>>85260384
based

>>85260384
>No one fucking cares
But enough about VTL7

>>85260384
Basado

>>85260551
kek

>>85260244
It is not a team problem. It is a Pes16 problem. The matches have little drama and are shit. Why would I spend my weekend watching uncompetitive games?

>>85260384
>>85260069
You sound like an AEW tranny

The actual problem is that this group format is practically a lottery. Your team can get kicked out because of some other team in a completely different group. There's not much point in watching.

One word to describe it is masturbatory. It is excessive. too many teams, too many matches, too much going on. Only thing there isn’t too many of is fans.
It should have never grown past 40 teams. That should have been the limit.

>>85261407
>nooooooo you have to be a numberfaggot like me you can't enjoy the league

I like Phase teams and other teams too

>>85262088
Adam COPEland

Babbies. Simple as.

32 teams
Keep:

>/hlgg/
>/vsj+/
>/pcg/
>/2434/
>/lig/
>/#/
>/manstars/
>/hfz/
>/nasfaqg/
>/holoX/
>/ybc/
>/vrt/
>/nepolabo/
>/warkop/
>/hag/
>/tactical/
>/vtwbg/
>/jidf/
>/skynetFC/
>/mint/
>/HAHA/
>/fvr/
>/pyon/
>/nijiEN/
>justice/
>/fig/
>/lia/
>/hyris/
>/moriG/
>/wah/
>/doog/
>/uuu/

There, I saved the league

>>85262234
No. Babbies and qualifiers spit in the face of everything this league is supposed to be.
You do not lock out poor performing teams from the prior league. That is when this becomes tryhard esports shit.

>>85262234
nah that's you

>>85262428
It's a nonsense suggestion to begin with. VGL runs pretty much this exact format twice a year and no one suggests that they need babbies. This is coming from bad actors who don't have the league's best interests at heart.

The solution is not babbies. As it was it is unfair that tri made the 2 worst teams in vtl 6 play a qualifier for the last spot. He can call it a play in and pretend it wasn’t a 2 team babby between the 2 worst teams last league, but it was

>>85262424
/#/ hands typed this post.
You killed too many phase teams, I like making fun of them when they lose so there should be more

>>85263183
Flavor should not be playing in VTL7 they had the worst POI. But people like FoxyRoxy because he does stuff for the league so the team got magic priority.

>>85263220
pcgia lost yesterday and it generated 5 posts

>>85263183
In what way was that unfair? There is no clean 49 team format so that is a non-starter. Would it have been more fair to outright reject one of those teams when they both met poi standards? I'm just curious by what metric you would have made that determination.

>>85263220
>le numbers boogeyman
I would have kept all the phase teams if I cared for numbers

>>85263357
> Would it have been more fair to outright reject one of those teams when they both met poi standards?
Obviously yes?
That puts the burden on the actual fans of each team instead of pes rng. Also it punishes based on the last leagues results, which is tryhard esports shit.

>>85263357
Switch to a round-robin format

>>85263357
They should have rejected /fvr/ because they had the worst POI.

These were the weakest POIs according to the wiki
Nothing of value would be missed if we cut them off

>>85263357
>>85263492
Part of my issue with making POI such a big prt of determining who gets in is that there's a big gap of time between when POI is collected and when the teams are decided, so a team with weak POI isn't really given much of a chance to fix this and it can be hard to know what their standing is until everybody is confirmed. If the competition for slots became more fierce it might feel more fair if we did something like only accepting POI after signups and some more immediacy and feedback to the process so teams with weak POI can have a chance to correct it.

>>85263357
It should've been the two teams with the weakest POI

>>85263578
Kiki likes /vrt/ though

>>85263695
And I like /baubau/, but we all have to make sacrifices

>>85263684
>so a team with weak POI
you can't fix weak POI teams who are 1-2 fan teams that samefag and self bump.
the fact is when it comes time for games to be played, their "fans" don't show up and support because they never existed in the first place.

This isn't a major cull that needs to happen, either. It is like 8 teams or fewer and you all know who they are everybody can see it just look at how slow their threads move and how poor their turnout is, but people are afraid of hurting feelings because you like their caretakers in the discord

It's so evident that a lot of people here have never watched actual divegrass. "Cut off the weak and non-popular teams" as if it was American shit, SOVL is much more important than any of that crap.

>>85263684
If by "correct it" you mean Joshus going to bump the thread last second to get a friend into the league, I guess that's right

>>85263836
I guess... Every league I worry /myteam/ will get cut because I was too lazy and didn't shill enough for POI but it always turns out fine so far but it can be a bit anxiety inducing at times

I know your mentally ill ass will read this Triangle, so listen close.
>Update the ST check so that threads need at least 8 bump limits in 90 days before signup. No half bump limits.
>Require every returning team to provide a thread of their generals liveposting during the matches as a part of POI. Extra points for anons making drawings, videos, macros etc. Reject any returning team if they fail this.
>Extend the 'grace period' even more. 7 day grace period. If time is a problem push back the signup date.
>Tighten the roster check.
>Reject teams with ''Suspicious POI'' immediately.

>>85263578
>choc and wvt were the 2 worst teams in vtl6 finished 41st and 42nd
>choc and wvt cleared the weakest POI qualifications, and the "play in" should have been fvr vs. wah
>instead, it is a 2 team babby and punishes teams tri made tactics for as if it was either wvt and choc's fault
tri will insult your intelligence by saying it was not a babby and it is a play in which is totally different

>>85263975
>Require every returning team to provide a thread of their generals liveposting during the matches as a part of POI. Extra points for anons making drawings, videos, macros etc. Reject any returning team if they fail this.
Ehh, could we also use cytube chatters with the appropriate icon as an alternative for this to prove engagement?

/biz/ idea: ban /#/ from the league, and keep all of the other teams.

>miss out on a matchday due to work
>thread devolves into GRIMposting and intense number talk
>/#/ mentioned despite having 0 activity here

You guys are massive faggots, just enjoy when the funny vtuber model hits the moderately citcular object into the goal
t. NumberGOD and upcoming slayer of /doog/ (trust)

>>85264060
Too many people switch icons for that to be a meaningful metric.

>>85264092

>>85264092
/num8er2/

What if we limited it to one team per corpo/agency? So like all of the hololive related teams got lumped into /hlgg/, all of the nijisanji related teams got lumped into /2434/ etc?

>>85264211
that would be fun for an off-season tourney

>>85264211
No, BUT what if you limited it to a chuuba can only be repped on 1 team?
That would cause some fanbases to make some decisions + it would quickly weed out redundant teams when they can't rep in chuubas who already play for their home team.

>>85264248
I want a solo girls cup. individual chuuba teams are more fun and it is more personal. it's like a 1v1 fight.

>>85264092
>a number monkey is the voice of reason

>>85263884
>"Cut off the weak and non-popular teams" as if it was American shit
american sports don't even have relegation retard
shit teams and non-popular teams don't get "cut off"

>>85263908
JoshuCorp runs the VTL.
Cope.

>>85264092
The fact that your post is one of the sanest ones in this thread is very concerning.

Next league we should get rid of all the managers and caretakers and just have Triangle and Tomato do everything.

>>85263975
>>Update the ST check so that threads need at least 8 bump limits in 90 days before signup. No half bump limits.
This won't matter, the grandfather clause is not returning for VTL8, and there will be threads that won't make the activity check because of it.
>>Require every returning team to provide a thread of their generals liveposting during the matches as a part of POI. Extra points for anons making drawings, videos, macros etc. Reject any returning team if they fail this.
No. doing it 4cc style is stupid, especially for threads like /hlgg/ which are too fast to live post on a slow day.
>>Tighten the roster check.
What does this even mean
>>Reject teams with ''Suspicious POI'' immediately.
No.

>>85263836
this is the most accurate post on the topic
/fvr/ should have been the odd team out but because Triangle like Foxy, they get a golden ticket.

>>85264812
Raise the team activity check and it will solve itself. if it takes you more than 48 hours to complete a thread, then how can you possibly have POI for a team?

Next thread will be better

>>85265153
>it takes some teams 3 or 4 days to reach bump limit IF they don't get bumped off the catalog because it is literally 1-2 guys keeping it alive for divegrass
yet magically their POI post gets 10+ responses
it is a self report.

>>85265153
So only allow EN Slop, HLGG and # being the only possible teams.
Thanks you've killed the /vt/ league

>>85265157
Not as long as >they don't leave.

>>85263578
>/pyon/ third on the list
>/pcg/ 12th
I wouldn't use this list as authoritative in any capacity.

>>85265288
/pyon/ is third because /pyon/ had a kiki vocaroo as part of their POI

>>85265271
>So only allow EN Slop, HLGG and # being the only possible teams.
2 days is plenty of time to go thru a thread and it not unreasonable at all.
even for teams like /uuu/ who only have one when she streams, when it is up they fill it with posts.

>>85264812
Since you are here:
Nobody posts in these threads because the last few times they have been hijacked by Towa and Aname (rest in piss) to post 4cc shit.
Want more interest in this? Get those clowns to fuck off. Don't need 200 posts of Towa spamming he doesn't feel like running polls again.

>>85265493
How do you expect him to police who posts in a 4chan thread?

>>85265493
>implying
neither of them have posted here. You got bamboozled by a troll.
Especially AnAme who is not participating in any divegrass right now.

It's honestly fascinating how some people enjoy numbers on a screen and debates about pointless shit more than watching the actual games and having fun.

>>85265271
The point is you should have enough posters posting in a thread to keep it moving. If you don't have posters posting, it is because the posters simply dont exist and it is 1 guy keeping the thread alive.

fucking /warkop/ takes days and most of the posts are bump posts that literally just say bump in whatever language they use. Why do they exist?
this is also choch. and pink. and tactical. and fig.

Which team do you support? Which was your favorite match this league?

>>85265535
He can police who posts in the discord thoughever. Aname in particular gets allowed to do whatever the fuck he wants.
I bet if he told Towa: one more poll in the vtl threads and you are gone, things would change.

>>85265474
I disagree. The grandfather clause will cull like 3-5 teams. The time to bump limit is not indicative of activity.

>>85265678
AnAme isn't even managing in the VTL or managing the 4cc team anymore. He isn't even in the discord. Towa hasn't posted here about the 4cc team, it was a troll trying to stir trouble.

>>85265742
Good riddance.

>>85265682
If you can't get 310 posts in 48 hours, that means not a lot of people post the thread yet magically those posters show up to give POI, but not for streams?
Hell, raise it to 72 hours.

>>85265810
I disagree.

>>85265742
Don't make me dig up the archive. It has happened repeatedly and people keep telling him to fuck off.

>>85265774
be nise

>>85265810
Some threads are lurky a lot of the time and experience big peaks and lows of activity depending on when people have stuff to post about. I don't see an issue with that.

>>85265474
You're losing /nepolabo/ and depending on the time you're also losing /hag/ if not /mayo/ and /holoX/

>>85265810
again, Triangle will never do it because discord fan favorites like /choc/ /pink/ /fig/ /hfz/ etc will fail. Maybe post in your general more instead of discord so your shit isn't slow as molasses

>>85265857
No I mean, the last time that you are complaining about wasn't him.

>>85265892
they are a part of the problem and this solution fixes it

>>85265954
Nah.

>>85265954
So get rid of some the most popular teams because you want only HoloEN teams only.

>>85265983
>most popular teams
numbers dont lie. they are ratings poison

>>85265669
>Which team do you support?
/HAHA/
>Which was your favorite match this league?
So far it was /pcg/ vs /who/ because I enjoyed the chaos of the goalie getting a red.

>>85265954
Genuinely what is the problem? They're entertaining to watch.
>>85266006
>numbers
That explains a lot about your posts.

>>85265895
they hated him because he spoke the truth

>>85265899
Towa you have to stop bringing your shit here bro. Seriously.

>>85265669
>Which team do you support?
/ag/
>Which was your favorite match this league?
Either the /tsunX/ mayo match or the /pcg/ v /who/ match

>>85265669
So far it's gotta be /nepolabo/ vs /pyon/ if only for the birth of a very important question.
Are you a Ra6b1t?

That and seeing that the rust has been shaken off and the team's fully back!