/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>76927101
Pls understando in sea we work very hard can watch stream all time

>>76927101
heads up sisters it seems more will be coming for your supports

>>76927101
GRIM

>>76927226
>FUCKING KEKK
I don't know if the en manager just misclicked this but they didn't even let the new gen marinate before even planning to hire new gens LMAO

>>76927448
New gen was already dead in the water anon
they're hoping the next will strike gold and the next and the next

>>76927101
Some support lmao

>>76927101
GRIMMMMM

>>76927101
yeah sisters support, only on xitter likes

>>76927448
ACCELERATE

>>76927508
At this current trend we will witness 2view niji organs during their debut week

>>76927101
>us fans will be supporting you (exclusively on Twitter)

>>76927448
>>76927508
you guys forgetting Nijisanji's ACCELERATE plan?

>>76927101
quick rundown on these two? so far, would you consider them 'based' or 'cringe' ?

It's kind of sad how everyone just collectively dumped nijiEN, they basically don't exist outside of their very tiny bubble now

>>76927894
Causing a suicide attempt and then attacking the victim will do that

>>76927101
KEK the support was so bad they switched to japanese

>>76927894
no remorse for bullies.

they will be two 2 view in 3 months

>>76927101
Maybe its not a lie, its just that the combined forces of the sisters amount to a bit more of a finana worth of viewers and I am not sure if that's a better alternative than the sisters lying

>>76928416
please understand, SEAsters shitty 3rd world internet won't let them refresh for views as quickly

This company is insane

>>76928532
>use multiple devices
>dont skip ads
jesus christ even i wont stoop this low as to beg for streams

>>76927226
>at anytime
oh god when will they learn

>>76927894
Kek even some of the Nijisisters have begun waking up to the fact that everyone outside their little bubble has dropped NijiEN. Both the general vtubing fanbase and vtubers themselves.

>>76927894
>kind of sad
No if anything this is the best thing that's happened to the industry in years

>>76927101
What twittards mean by "support" is "giving a twitter like" and "giving a reddit upboat".

>>76927894
I like the most recent 3 waves besides Claude. Unfortunately they're victims of the actions of the older waves. I don't think things can ever recover.

That said, people aren't dropping them over the Selen firing. They're dropping them over the black screen stream that basically made them look incredibly evil and vindictive. Simply firing someone isn't that big of a deal. IdolCorp fired Kyoresu for fucking her manager, Holo fired Mel for leaking shit to male ecelebs, Phase fired that blue girl for scamming her viewers. Firings happen in vtubing all the time. But NijiEN coming out and trying to harass Selen after the fact is what made the entire scene turn on them.

>>76929143
>2234
Either sisters can't even get the meme number right, or am I missing some sort of joke?

>>76929500
Ninisani(2234) is a joke (ironically) created by Pomu to refer to the EN branch because she mistyped [Ninisani EN] in her debut stream. They've been milking it ever since despite unpersoning her for hanging out with Doki.

>>76929500
>2 Branches 2 Percent 3 Views 4 Life

>>76929473
Correctionn: hololive fired Mel for telling Kotoka things in confidence which she then proceeded to leak to her ecelebs

>>76927101
i dont want to watch livestreams for hours, i only watch a stream for 2 mins and then go check out timestamps in the comments for anything interesting on the video. my vod view is support enough.

>>76929673
Ninisani is 2232, so no, that retard NDF officer couldn't even get that right

>>76927226
Fling shit at the wall until another Luxiem sticks.

>>76929747
That's literally not possible because when Cover collabs with Anycolor they're required to sign NDA's for both sides. IF Kotoka did indeed leak something Mel said then she would've been the one fired, not Mel. You need to stop believing rrats just because they sound convenient.

>>76927101
>Still thinks CCV matters
Now show those VOD views

Here's a question.
What, in your eyes, and if you had a personal stake in all of this, would need to happen at Nijisanji or within NijiEN to make you want to more actively support the EN talents?

>>76927226
ACCELERATE HARDER

>>76927101
I'm going to apply to it as a joke. With my experience and the lack of applicants, I think I have quite a high chance. Will update once I get in

>>76930111
They'd have to fire Enna, Luca, and possibly Elira. That's the bare minimum for me to even consider donating to NijiEN livers again. I don't want my money going towards funding projects for pieces of shit.
A public apology to Doki would also do a lot to quell people's hatred for them.
And I consider myself a lot more forgiving than most, since I was a day 1 NijiEN fan and don't like seeing them like this. But I doubt we'll even get this much.

>>76930007
they are doing alot better than hajime the biggest niji jp underdog liver, that much i can tell you. but, they dont seem to be able to challenge any of the top 5 niji en livers, the four luxiem members and enna is still standing strong as niji's en biggest guns.

>>76927625
Not like it's any different for Holo, Homos, Phase or whatever. X support is worth nothing.

>>76929913
>it was revealed to me in a dream

>>76930111
There's so many indies and corpos that I can watch instead, that there's really no reason to ever go back.

>>76930986
quick rundown on mint? Will she have a major yab sometime in the future or is it all smooth sailing into the sunset?

>>76931152
She wants to be a living toilet and once sang a song about taking her meds.

>>76927894
just like the id fans abandoned your dying id branch for abang windah and akavirtual's solstice.

>>76931152
She's so uncontroversial that schizos spent 3 years trying to take her down but the only "yab" they could come up with is she worked for Nijisanji. Now that she's free of the Niji rot there's nothing holding her back.
but for real she's one of the funniest vtubers ever and genuinely so cute and wholesome.

>>76929473
The black screen with management, livers and sisters trying to justify it definetly killed their company. If they had less of an ego they would of seen they went the worst way to go about it even if they believed they were in the right. But they didn't want to let go of their influence till it was torn down around them. They are way too comically evil it's not even funny since certain companies / people believe that this should be the way to conduct themselves.

>>76931638
>spoiler
ok so what dirty kinks she is secretly into? futas? tentacles? infantilization?

>>76931830
Piss and rough anal sex.

>>76931152
Her sex tape with Doki will leak one day

>>76927101
By support they mean giving them likes on twitter, not actually watching streams nor giving them money.

>>76929913
Someone tried to Blackmail Mel and Hololive who is related too Kotoka. It wasnt her but she was indirectly the cause of it cause of loose lips. I've said enough.

>>76932070
And this came to you in a dream I assume?

Twitter support translates to nothing, we saw how supportive they were about Yuko's change of content. They don't donate, they don't watch, they just want to argue on twitter.

>>76930111
For a start, Riku would have to sell Niji to someone who gives a fuck. Then I'd want all the snakes to be purged. They can all tweet vague apologies and graduate without fanfare, keeping their deeds hidden. Or they can get terminated with bulletpoints. Then there would have to be a comprehensive restructuring of how management and livers are handled. Hire qualified adults finished with school as managers and pay them a fair salary. Make sure the managers are fluent in the languages of the livers under them. Don't delegate manager duties to livers. Let the livers have their play buttons. Send the livers their fan mail and gifts. Don't force them to collab with people they don't want to. Don't make the talents do PR for the company. I'll think of more later.

>>76931830
She's a cuckquean and the biggest proponent of WMAF.

>>76930111
Their own management who perpetuates the favouritism. Making Elira the scapegoat was only because for some deranged reason NDF defended the company instead of the talent and its a manager who is harassing the livers who left. Elira could well have been the reason as well due to her actions since they never let slipped who in JP /EN is the cause.

>>76932146
Actually right after a Nijisister told me her mum had cancer. Two days before Kotoka released a tweet she was having the best days of her life.

>>76927226
>At "anytime"
If one of you wants to bleed chink fujos for money and have sex voice then this is your chance.
But back to the topic they're very fucking desperate they're throwing shit at the wall hoping it fucking sticks with all of these auditions.

>>76932614
So a nijisister told you this and you believed it?

If you support any liver at Nijisanji then you support Nijisanji as a company.

>>76931912
It would boost their numbers to the stratosphere

>>76933217
i owly giwe a daily 13-15 vod viewww to my bf voxxy :3 meow i dont caree abouut the other livers tho :3

>>76930111
they only ones I truly watched were Pomu and Selen, now that they're both gone from that shithole I couldn't care less about what happens to niji en.

>>76933536
I know right? I just can't help but be his good little kitten. Meow~
Also I don't know why everyone thinks dookie is so innocent. To secretly record your friends like that... Kind of scary to think about. At least m'lord doesn't need to deal with menheras like that anymore. He only has me :3

>>76930111
after what they did to pomu ill never forgive them.

>>76931896
based

>>76930111
Nijisanji EN would have to be broken off into an autonomous child company from the rest of Niji. Furthermore, the entire staff of Nijisanji would have to be replaced, all contracts redrawn from square one, and the clique entirely dismantled.

>>76930111
Fire Elira, Enna, MILLLE, Uki, Vox, Luca, Hex, Kotoka
Public apologies to Doki, Mint and Sayu by Riku himself
Riku resigns
Complete revamp of management with full transparency

>>76930111
Public apology to Sayu coupled with reparations. They have to admit they were wrong with that laundry list, they have to admit to wrongfully encouraging harassment of her instead of preventing it, if possible, taking actions against those who participated in the harassment.
Separate public apology to Selen.
More generic apology to other talents who left the company unsatisfied and to the fans.
Firing Enna and Luca for all the yabs in the past that they got away scot free with previously. Maybe Finana, Hex and Wilson too.

Promise... no, actual roadmap of how they plan to support existing talents with proof that the support will happen.
At least a bit of transparency regarding the process of granting sponsorship opportunities to talents. Compensate talents who were treated unfairly. Strive to eliminate favoritism in the future.
That should be enough.

>>76930111
Push Finana to the moon until she manages to beat Gura.

If they can accomplish that then they will have my respect.

>>76931152
She already has a major yab, remember the nudes leak? You can look it up, they're really easy to find

>>76927894
>It's kind of sad
No it isn't

>>76927101
They say that in public and never actually support you. Same thing I see with the homos and Yuko, people praise the idea but don't really support.
>show those haters! anyway I'm going back to watching or doing something else

>>76933907
voxxy loves his loyal wittle kittens :3 we will support him even if he gets merged into niji nihongo by wiku :3

>>76935031
never forget

>>76929913
No, you don't understand. It was Kotoka because Nijisanji is bad.

>>76927101
its not a lie if they only have 400 fans and everyone else is bots/deadsubs

>>76927101
Nijiniggers and lying name a more iconic duo

>>76927101
sad, twisty is actually funny but such is the fate of those joining a black company

>>76927101
Is this the vtubing equivalent of thoughts and prayers?

>>76935474
needs a mint version

>>76939221
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu4Rzhc_Liw
klara seems like an angel too. she's actually experienced in monhun, speaks 4 languages, and has been super polite and cute to her community. such a shame she's stuck in niji

>>76930111
I'll support none of the EN talents until they're no longer a part of Nijisanji EN. Unless it's revealed that they had literal guns pointed at their heads, I will never support any of the black screen streamers again, period.

>>76927101
still better numbers than 99% of chuubas outside of hololive

>>76940804
* no longer a part of Anycolor

>>76927101
I mean they don't even watch the people who have been there for a while so I'm not surprised

>>76940823
While giving up 98% of your revenue to the glory of Riku's yacht

>>76940823
>Nijinigger still thinking they are able to use Hololive as frame of reference
Sister...your numbers are unironically comparable to Idol and the runts of Phase. Even Pixelink is outdoing your black corp. You are in no shape to be able to compare NijiEN numbers to even Vshojo, let alone Hololive

>>76940804
cry more bitch. people have a right to defend themselves against baseless slander. Not a single shred of proof was ever provided for grifterbird's claims, anyone would defend themselves, you would have too.

>>76929473
>Phase fired that blue girl for scamming her viewers
Yuri did not scam anyone. Theres no official reason other than her not wanting to renew her contract. Allegedly the rats say she was accepting viewer money under the table without Fishman as the middleman but no more than that nor theres any proof of it

>>76940823
>still better numbers than 99% of chuubas outside of hololive

>>76941072
No shit, thats literally what I said. Those numbers are good anywhere else unless compared to hololive. No one is hololive tier, niji never was either outside of a 5 minute window after Luxiem.

>>76941227
can you read? of course there are a handful of indies, phase, idol etc who do good numbers. But the vast sea of endless indies and small corpo WHOs would like to have niji numbers

>>76933536
>>76933907
>>76935467
quit larping, retards

>>76930111
Show tits for the females, jump off a cliff for the males

>>76929473
>try to defend yourself against a scam artist threatening to blackmail you
somehow thats evil, kek. Keep drinking the doki koolaid faggot

>>76941227
ohnononnono sisters, even our top dog luxiem is worthless now

>>76932230
Best answer in the thread

>>76941072
yes because pixel link talents can hit 5 digits vods views regularly right ?

>>76927101
>us fans will be supporting you
So is every fan going to personally monetarily support every nijien past, present, and future?
"Support" is useless without getting paid just like "exposure" is useless in other creative fields

>>76941319
>>76941239
NijiEN literally used to be considered the number 2 corp right behind Hololive and up until Illuna used to have alot of 4views even outside Luxiem. Now you are trying to cope with them getting mogged by Vshojo, Phase, Idol, by going "w-w-well they still mog the sea of 2view indies and these literal who corpos!"

>>76941456
But they didn't defend themselves at all. It's more like
>Doki: Nijisanji scammed me
>Elira, Vox, and Ike: Yeah we scammed Selen, but why isn't anyone talking about the fact we bullied her into suicide too? Checkmate Cuckgoons
The stream made them look infinitely worse than if they had done nothing.

>>76935031
That's CP. Don't do that dumbass. She was like 16 or some shit when those leaked.

>>76940249

She's also boring and there's a million other's like her. What does she or twisty actually bring to the table?

>>76927101
GRIM GRIM GRIM

>>76940249
She choose to join nijisanji, she deserves no sympathy

Why are the sisters so obsessed with VOD views now?

>>76941933
>She's also boring and there's a million other's like her. What does she or twisty actually bring to the table?
I personally think Klara is very entertaining. She's good at talking and has a very calming and pleasant voice. Being one of the few EN vtubers who actually plays real games instead of chillas art kusoge is also a plus.
Twisty is just the bratty loli experience. There's a million of them out there and you can take your pick of your favorite but it's a shame that this one is stuck under the Niji umbrella.

Oh, yeah, there's also the fact that every single person who has graduated has had nothing but horror stories. Every single person. There was no "It was an amazing time. I miss everyone". It was "Oh my god the nightmare is finally over. I'm finally free".

>>76942268
That's not true. Matara and Mint both said they had a lot of happy memories and that their coworkers were wonderful. They of course do have horror stories but things aren't black and white.

>>76941227
luxiem stil win at the end against pippa and tenmah :3 i wuv voxxy and ikey meow meow :3

>>76942057
>sisters
>s

>>76927101
Kek no wonder Whorosanji sisters were fighting for their life in that deflection thread earlier

>>76927894
>It's kind of sad
Lol no

>>76929673
Wasn't it Finana who mistyped it?

>>76931830
She's into chickens
Kiara specifically

>>76942057
Because they've shifted goalposts so much they're now off of the playing field

>>76930111
Graduate Luca
Graduate Hex
Graduate Enna
Graduate Vox
Graduate Kotoka

Put Millie, Finana, Elira, Uki, Claude, Shu, Wilson, Vanta, and Ike on indefinate suspension.

Release a public apology to Selen, Yugo, and Zaion.

>>76946801
I'd add termination of Uki with a public statement that company doesn't tolerate any type of racism.

>>76927894
i agree in so far that its sad for the talents stuck in there that had nothing to do with any of this shit

>>76927101
we timeskipped, right? this isn't still the fucking debut week is it?

>>76930111
Live Aster beheading
Elira becomes public use

>>76946875
The problem is, by keeping Uki around for so long, they are already telling the public the opposite

The maid and the brat actually have been fun so far. No idea about the man, that's just disgusting.

>>76927875
They joined Niji after february. They're worthless and stupid for doing so.

>>76948655
Aster is going to rape the brat live on air, so it's really just a cuckchair channel.

>>76927101
most sisters are already move on to shxtou&kuro's community

>>76929673
Finana mistyped it predebut on youtube and people turned it into a joke on twitter, and they just rolled with it.

>>76946801
Fuck off already

>>76930111
>What, in your eyes, and if you had a personal stake in all of this, would need to happen at Nijisanji or within NijiEN to make you want to more actively support the EN talents?
Full apology to Doki and Sayu, as well as a separate one to all of the graduated talents who got brainfucked by the company to the point of self destruction, followed by a transparent plan to actively support their talents from then on.
AKA not gonna fucking happen. Burn it all down. We can sort the ashes to find out who the "good ones" were.

>>76946801
The heck did Vanta do? I don't remember any yab from him?

>>76931152
She's so vanilla that there's nothing really to say. She avoids drama like the plague and actively does her best to stay on the fence on most shit so neither side attacks her. I'm pretty sure her joining wrestletuber and that one little cardboard wings comment are the hardest stance on anything she's ever taken.

She's not necessarily exceptional at anything, but she's very good at pretty much everything required for an online or offline entertainer, from content creation to avoiding yabs.

>>76927101
What do you mean?
All of the 380 remaining Nijisanji fans are supporting them

>>76950640
>that one little cardboard wings comment
Context please?

>>76929739
anon...my knees...they are dropping on their own...

>>76927101
Their support=watch streams for 30s

>>76950832
When Mint first graduated, as a ghost, she said she was going to heaven.
When she came back, she said it was fun but not what was advertised and they gave her cardboard wings.
This was a jab at how her wings on her 3D model never fucking worked, and they refused to give her home 3D until they were fixed. (they never were. She never got it.)

>>76950941
Thank you, that's funny

>>76930977
That's your response when I ask you for proof that Kotoka did that.

>>76927894
It's not kind of sad. It's 100% deserved.

>>76950939
vod views is what matters at the end of the day and ryoma is doing ok, but uh, six levels below luxiem.

>>76930111
Public executions of EN management
Castrate the sexpest
Gouge out the eyes of Uki
Graduate or Indefinite suspensions for the clique
Have a competent staff and promote the talents commonly thought of as one of the good ones
Distribute play buttons from Riku's dragon hoard
Riku bows then commits seppuku live on stream

>>76949335
That's okay. I'll just watch someone else when it happens.

>>76950482
NIJISEETHE

>>76951507
Fuck off sister

>>76927101
I see Niji drones follow the Discipline of the Homobeggar

>>76946801
yeah fuck off!! let them stay on that shithole

>>76927894
they couldve been so good man
what went wrong

>>76952853
ryoma's eating good food, now seethe and eat your indomie.

>>76951042
Slight correction to that other anon: She did get her home home 3D 2 weeks before she graduated. Probably only because she was leaving the company, but she still had it for a few weeks.

>>76927894
>It's kind of sad how everyone just collectively dumped nijiEN,
A lot of people worked (or still do) for shit companies, i bet they absolutely do not want to see this in their free time
I've got a pretty high tolerance to shitty corpos myself, but I've never seen such an unholy combo of fuckups as nijien

>>76953122
Elira

>>76927894
>sad
They nearly killed their best girl and made their other best girl cry.
They get no sympathy from me.

>>76927101
Nijiliars

>>76946801
>kotoka
found the sayutard

>>76927101
sorry when they mean support what they actually mean is shitposting on this mongolian throat singing forum like>>76951507

>>76929913
Are you... retarded? You do understand that NDAs are signed on a project by project basis, correct? Why would Kotoka be under a blanket perpetual NDA for Cover when she works(ed at this point? Who knows if she ever returns...) for AnyColor. Do they not teach basic problem solving in schools in SEA or something?

>>76930111
Name and shame the en management staff to make sure they never get a job again in the industry.

>>76927101
most of the pandering always is

>>76927101
? What are you complaining about? They're pulling in more viewers than the Nijisanji EN debut gen member, Finana Ryugyu. And with less than 1/15th the subs.

>>76927448

>>76930111
Public apology to Selen, Pomu, Doki and U-san, complete sacking of all NijiEN 'management', no talents are allowed to serve in management roles, black screen stream and all tweets related to it deleted, fully paid and proper management hired with assurances that nothing like the last few years will be allowed to happen again

Oh and fire Luca and Uki

>>76930111
If I were put in charge of NijiEN I'd probably jump out the window. The damage is so bad it can't be fixed. I think all of the talents could actually feasibly get their image repaired, but it would require scapegoating the entire organisation itself.
I think the only way to pull it off would be to publicly phoenix the entire company. Make a showing of scapegoating Riku and all the execs with proof it was their poor decision making that led to this, then remove them from the company and start visibly restructuring the whole back end from the ground up, terminating all talent contracts and drafting new ones, letting anyone who wants out go in the process.

>>76968483 (me)
So basically the only way that Nijisanji is getting out of this hole is a very ambitious hostile corporate takeover. Which is definitely on the table once the stock crashes.

I feel bad for the maid, she doesnt deserve getting into niji.

>>76927226
Niji
>ACCELERATE
Holo
>Stop, build with the talent we have

Its so funny how they're night and day

>>76930111
Nothing.
I have a seething vengeance for nijiniggers for what they did to Aloe and Mel's death is on their hands as well.
Nothing other than complete destruction will be satisfactory.

>>76929473
>posting someone who oshis enna
>i like--
Fuck off.

>>76927894
Actions and consequences, anon.

>>76929500
It's supposed to be 2434. Because nijisanji is ni - 2, ji(shi) - 4, san - 3, ji - 4.

>>76930111
Okay, so there isn’t anything that they would do, but there are things that they could do, starting with a complete reorganization of the EN branch, including hiring managers that aren’t terrible, instant termination of everybody involved with the bullying and the entirety of the current “management” team, public apologies to all of the ex-organs and Scarle (for the *sigh* incident), further terminations for Aster, Luca, and Uki, completely rewriting the organs’ contracts, deletion of all material related to the terminations of Doki and Sayu, and Riku, as well as the rest of the highest level of management within Anycolor, stepping down in disgrace. Nothing impossible, but there’s no chance that Anycolor will do any of these things.

reminder that shibuya hal's neo-porte is apparently niji en's closest rivals and his numbers arent that good either.

>>76942057
Preasu undelstandu, it is all they have left.

>>76927101
Full snipper for all ze anons

>>76973472
Appreciated.

>>76973472

>>76971778
Apparently all his big stuff is events. I heard out of the top 10 vtuber streams last year, like 3 of them were from that guy specifically.

Doki's trying to be the EN equivalent.

>>76977039
the koshien event with shiina and koyowho didnt worked out well for hal, as hes subs gets culled over and over again kek.

>>76927101
Sister forgot to say on twatter, support them only on twatter.

>>76973472
>aster getting 400 views
Is that a new record?

>>76971778
>sister really talking about the better shibuya brother
He's got more connections than everyone in EN combined. Dude could straight up ruin the FPS players in JP in a second if he so chose.

>>76927101
lmao