/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>OP
are you ready for the holowoke expansion campaign?

>>76739686
Sister, Nijisanji just fucking collaborated with american sportsball. What are you talking about holowoke?

EUbros...

>>OP
who the fuck cares about projects, just make EN fucking stream jesus christ

>>76739811
Streams aren't the main source of income and already a very explored avenue. Cover wants to go further beyond just being a streamer company.

>>76739811
NIJISEETHE

>>76739743
If you Europeans wanted cover to pay attention to you maybe you should've paid more

>>76739811
has advent finally integrated into holoEN's laziness?

>>76739861
they don't even have streamers, EN stream schedule is empty, who the fuck are they holding events for? why should i give a shit about some event when i dont even give a shit about the "streamer" because they never fucking stream?

>>76739743
it's okay... eurobros are normally forgotten

>>OP
>we do not expect large earnings from the North American base alone
OH NO NO NO AMERICA BROS

>>76739743
Or maybe they should hire vtubers worth donating to.

>>76739910
I know you never watch streams sister.

>>76739735
cope harder when your beloved holoEN starts to talk about diversity hires and blocking anime pedos. it's the inevitable fate of any corpo venturing into burgerland.

>>76739910
Sounds like a You Problem considering the success of HoloEN this year.

>>76739743
I dont really follow closely but isnt anime more popular in europe than in states? Or is Cover just looking at california?

>>76739890
they have streams almost every day while working on their 3D

>>76740036
so they're holding events for 5 people? just advent? retard

>>76740035
Content still from Japan. No need to project your own livers sister

>>76739743
>holo streams in EU hours
>barely any SC
you brought this on yourselves

>>76739811
If you look at the revenue chart, it's pretty clear that the covid boost is over and things are going back to normal where more people basically don't have time to stay home and watch streams like they used to 4 years ago, resulting in decrease of stream CCV and revenue

That's why Cover has high hopes for HoloEarth because if it succeeds, it will become a new revenue source that is dependent from unstable 3rd parties streaming services like Youtube and Twitch and they will depend on the brand more than the amount of hours a member can stream

>>76739861
If corporate vtubing can't sustain itself off actual vtubing content corporate vtubing should die

>>76739743
As an EUbro myself I can understand Cover ignoring them, EU has done NOTHING to prove they are a viable demographic to pander to. Trash viewership, never pay SC's, too many non-weeb normalfags everywhere, Instead they managed to grief and blunder the one time holo visited one of their cons.

If you want enthusiasts dumping money on merch etc. make holoKR
If you want raw masses of viewers, do HoloSPIC
EU provides neither
Also the language differences would force them to just be holoEN lite anyway

>>76740182 (me)
>dependent from
I meant independent, but you get my point

>>76740182
>Cover has high hopes for HoloEarth
God they are so screwed. I can't imagine how much of a loss they're going to take on that boondoggle when all is said and done.

>>76740105
No, you're just too caught up in your "streams are everything" mindset. Gura has barely streamed for over a year and she still sells merch ezpz.

>>76739743
I feel that EU has more normies than otakus. Maybe Finland and Sweden have a lot of "hidden" anime otakus but not enough for the EU region to be considered viable for Cover's further expansion.

>>76740062
Yes (it's more popular in France than in USA) and yes.

>>76740182
>HoloEarth
for the 3D streaming part kinda agree.
they can even go beyond concerts: pipeline the 3D tracking into the kotatsu room and combine 3D and 2D contents with the TV, or even better interactible with the players.

for the minecraft mode and others though lol
>limited serialized unique items
they still take "metaverse" too seriously

>>76740182
Covid has not been a factor for years now, shut the fuck up about that shit already. The "Covid" wave for hololive began and ended with Myth

>>76740445
Though allow me to add that anime is different from vtubers. Vtubers are for shut in nerds and Europe has less of those. The shut in part I mean

>>76740341
France and Germany have pretty big anime fanbases.
Weirdly enough anime was more prevalent in 90s with Dragonball, Pokemon and Sailor Moon airing on TV. Italy was pretty big on anime before, I think earlier than the USA iirc.
I'd say Western EU have pretty decent numbers, I as a poorfag eastern EUfag can tell you that it's less popular here. Maybe the biggest fanbase here is Poland.

>>OP
Is this why Cover stock price jumped today ? Saw the Q4 and they start pump and dump again ?

>>76740132
>Only Holo which streams regularly during EU hours is abrasive and doesn't have widespread appeal
>"Wtf, why yuropoors not donate to blue Doritos?"

>>76740284
It's not really about the game, the platform will be used to stream 3d concerts and event streams directly to you instead of through youtube.
So you can sit in an "actual audience" during things like the birthday streams.
And of course you want to represent your oshi, so you WILL buy the outfits with their face on them, right?

>>76739743
I can't even remember the last time I saw a Euro SC

>>76740819
I can, yesterday. Mine.

>>76739996
Eubeggars don't pay and then complain about cover not paying them attention

EU bro here, we are fucking poor and our population is small, that's why Cover doesn't want to expand here

>>76740817
It really sounds like a cope to me. But it's better to have something to fall back when shit does not work out than having none. Which is why having core fans is so important because they are there when things go to shit.

>>OP
https://contents.xj-storage.jp/xcontents/AS05169/31f97c9e/ca51/4e5e/93f0/e4dc09cd88e7/20240527154734371s.pdf
English version

>>76740806
Some holos stream during euro hours. There must be a rarity buff, but their SC still gets dominated by $ and even sometimes SEA currency.
There is no euro market.

>>76740341
>Hidden finnish otaku
n-no, but Finland and Japan has a really strange relationship that I can't really explain
>>76740819
I can only speak for myself but I don't like to throw money away with SCs, I rather get figures or merch.

>>76741214
>There is no euro market
Why do indies and small corpos cater to them then?

>>76741103
I took part in the alpha concert with mori back when they first opened it up, and I think it can work really well if they do it right.

>>76740249
>>76741100
Nice larp, burgers.
>>76741214
Please show me these non japanese holos that do that is not Kiara and stream more than once a week in EU prime hours.

>>76741063
>Give EU the worst vtuber known to man
>WHY THEY NO GIVE US MONEY?

>>76741342
>>76741214
There is just no euro market on youtube, most euros are on twitch and without a lot of work this won't change. Cover would have to do actual advertisements at conventions and stuff to get people to try out Youtube. I have a group of friends that I often visit european manga/anime/nerd conventions with, and except for 1 none of them watch streams on youtube. Some are full on coomers, so they will always be served better on twitch, but most just are used to opening twitch when looking for streams.

>>76741362
As a frog, I feel insulted to be called a burger

>>76741342
And there's a reason why they are small and indie, EU has the twin attributes of being both demanding as fuck and poor as fuck. It's like going into China but somehow worse.

>>76739743
You EUFags are no2 Homobeggars
no1 is flips

>>76739910
I am far more interested in Gura the character than Gura the streamer. It is why I buy merch of my wife, Gura

>>76741396
>Don't give cover EU money
>WAAAAAAAH WHY DOESN'T COVER APPEAL TO US

>>76741476
If they do then why don't any of them show up in the rankings?

This is important, IMO
>those who are merely in the vtuber community are middle fandom
they are not part of the core fanbase kek! No real oshi, not a real fan.

>>76741417
>full on coomers, so they will always be served better on twitch
Meanwhile the first attempt at a proper coomer corp will stream on YouTube.

>>76741594
Yeah, but at least for my friends they would probably(?) be too much. When we were younger they like ecchi anime shit like high school DxD, and the twitch whore chuubas are kind of like the evolution of that. Vallure would probably be too far into porn for them. But who knows what they actually do behind locked doors.

>>76740035
>cope harder
no you, yagoo himself already answer it in interview that he wont change anything because he is aware that holofans are not like nijisisters.

>>76741417
it looks like ignoring the european market for now while prioritizing US and SEA is a great move. Cover has not enough infrastructure to penetrate Europe while they have all the tools to dominate US and SEA. And we know their key infrastructure is Youtube, since it is the gateway for the development of core audience. They have an existing and working infrastructure in Youtube, not their unproven and experimental infrastructure in Twitch.

>>76741516
In what rankings? The only one I remember Cover publishing was something about per capita where france and germany were 2 and 3 places

>>76741544
That right though, isn't it? This would include people like clipwatchers and people without a preference for a specific group/corpo. If you watch whatever is live right now, you are probably not buying merch or tickets from one specific corpo, so you won't be their core audience.

>>76741476
Then why can ohnepixel feel secure enough to waste 118k dollars in one stream then?

>>76741476
I couldn't even spacha easily if I wanted to. 2 options are fucking prepaid, and Paypal's pretty much fucking ass anyways. The other's adding a credit or debit card, 2nd of which is incredibly fucking slow in processing and first of which pretty much doesn't even exist in my country. I don't know a single person who owns a credit card. It's just much easier on Twitch since it uses payment methods native to my own country.

Not to mention, Google/Youtube constantly get my location wrong. For some godawful reason they keep resetting my account to a UK based one even though I'm fucking Dutch. They have my actual physical adress and ID and yet they still keep resetting my location to the UK. So they're making me in pay in pounds. It's annoying as shit and I'm just not gonna bother with it even though I want to.

>>76739811
9 ENs streamed yesterday, 4 ENs streamed today, and another 7 ENs will stream tomorrow.

Is that not enough for you retards?

>>76741732
It is.
But I think it would help already if they encouraged Kiara to restart her euro-chuuba project.
In the past she wanted to collab with every bigger euro vtuber, but then she never talked about it again.
I don't think a twitch channel, like she is thinking about now, would help her much, since she isn't part of any of the twitch chuuba nepotism circles, which are needed on that platform to get noticed. I guess I would drop my monthly prime sub on her, but that's about it.

>>76739735
isn't NBA a chinese franchise though?

>>76740035
You need to sniff some cunny.

>>76741810
Yeah it's a huge pain in the ass to pay for anything google owned if you don't own a credit card, which many euros don't. The Debit card one should work in theory, but often just doesn't.

>>76741846
>In the past she wanted to collab with every bigger euro vtuber, but then she never talked about it again.
she probably discovered that every big eu chuuba is a lewd chuuba

>>76741833
babies need constant colors and sounds to feel excitement, pls understand

>>76739910
>they don't even have streamers, EN stream schedule is empty,
Nijisis can't stop living in 2022 huh?

>>76741846
Kiara wants to focus on Myth again.

>>76739811
>>76739861
Lol here we go again with the "Cover don't want Holos to stream they just want to seel merchs" shit from the early this month

>>76742027
Considering most of them stream 3+ hours every stream I'm baffled how these people still think that they don't have shit to watch because they don't I know.

>>OP
>anime market I highly penetrated

>>76741833
It’s ironic how the people who complain about EN not streaming don’t even watch streams.

>>76739743
I'm sure they mentioned it in the Q4 report

>>76741833
I'm pretty sure they are just trying to start shit with the few members who haven't been streaming regularly in recent times.

>>76741948
My country is the only WE one in the red. lol Seems about right...

Legit the only usable one in practice for me is the paysafecard. But it's prepaid and the storage is capped at €250 and it has a per-payment limit of €50. I couldn't even throw red spachas even if I wanted to. S I just use it as a storage place for Roca's membership money.

>>76741915
Based

>>76740182
nigger they would tear you apart in # for this retarded take

>>76742535
lmao /#/ can't even read numbers so don't take them as authority.

>>76740035
Europoor or SEA monkey?

>>76741833
>you
who "you" you are talking about here? holofans? they are watching like usual, thats why holo number are not 3 view like nijis, ppl here? ah they are just sisters who dont even watch their liver let alone holo.

>>76742535
>the retards would rip you apart
that's because they are chimps, and ripping faces, fingers and dicks off is their hobby.

>>76741948
Why are there countries without color?

>>OP
This is actually great!

remember HLZNTL?
That time, cover seems to focus on reeling sponsorships for profits.
Now, they'll create the IP themselves, and profit from it

>>76742535
The same people who just now bragged about their geography cluelessness?
>Roru, rumao even

>>76742698
>remember HLZNTL?
I only remember one sided stomping during that OW shill stream

>>76741833
What I've learn is most /vt/ who complain about no streams don't watch them. All lip service.

>>76742685
EU has a division that deals with statistics reported by EU members states. The ones without color are not European Union members.

>>76742754
no streams = my oshi doesn't stream = gura doesn't stream

>>OP
The problem with that logic is that it will create resistance to expansion. They won't be able to expand the anime market, or vtubers through the whole anime market. It's a fundamental misunderstanding of American subcultures.

>>76741487
Why would they pay for shit products? Europe isn't like the US.

>>76742237
Maybe because there are very few streams to watch? Yesterday was the first time in a very long time where we actually had more than half of EN stream

>>76739735
>Company full of women with different races and ethnicity
>men as a minority
Anon, hololive already woke from the start...

>>76739686
this time for sure sister

>>76742058
Have you read the report before posting?
They obviously want them to stream, but it's not an all-important priority. What are they supposed to do if Gura doesn't stream, punish or threaten her and thus make a graduation more likely? Monumentally stupid.

>>76741861
It's not but even if it was that's not the "W" you thin it is

>>76742535
Imagine posting this unironically

>>76739996
>>76741396
>>76743177
If we follow that logic of
-Offer product first
-Wait for return in case they liked the product
Then Cover should release a branch for every country in the world, right? No, that's not right. That's actually pretty stupid.

Cover is a company. In the volatile entertainment segment, nonetheless. They aren't taking any risks. HoloEN itself was a thing only after americans and IDs, to some extent[\spoiler]kept sending money to JP chuubas. And even then it was considered a gamble.

TL,DR:must show support first. Then you can demand catering. It's how things work in entertainment businesses.

>>76739932
Hehehe Chinabros, the time has come

>>76740182
>muh covid
Hood nigger IQ take

>>76743882
(Me)I don't know how I messed up that spoiler tag. I jwu.

>>76743882
EUbros just complain a lot, but they still watch streams. There are a lot of days lately that I don't like what EN is streaming and just skip. I've noticed more JP streaming in EN hours and getting higher numbers.

>>76742685
Not EU members

>>76744044
I have watched more of Okayu playing Factorio than I have watched Kiara over her entire career
t. swede

>>76739743
I think most people replying to this are forgetting the simple fact that most of EU simply does not have a lot of disposable income to spend on this type of stuff.

>>76740132
I buy merch. Which is honestly a fucking hassle because EU doesn't have access to the official store.

>>76739910
the same reason you go see a movie or a concert for someone you don't get to interact with on a daily basis. dumb fuck. Streams aren't a prerequisite for liking a character.

>>76741214
EU market propelled multiple small corpo, including Phase

>>76744583
>EU market propelled multiple small corpo, including Phase
lel
the SEA market is what propelled phase not EU

Why would cover invest in the eu market when local eu chuubas dont even cater to that market and focus more heavily on the na and sea market
Hell even brave isnt very confident in the eu market which is why more than half of their "eu focused" chuubas are situated in sea

gura buttering her bread for breakfast

>Q : If you go to the prime market, the topic of shareholder returns will inevitably come up. Can you tell us your thoughts on this in the future?

>Kaneko : We will continue with our current policy, but we believe that we are still in a growth phase, so we are not planning to pay large dividends in the short term at this time. For the time being, we believe that the priority is to secure growth drivers in the medium to long term while making investments and building partnerships that contribute to business growth.

Do they have to give dividends eventually? Can't they just not do that?

>>76741732
hiring two or three chuubas to stream slightly earlier than burger hours isn't some unknown tech that requires billions in infrastructure

>>76745036
Which is polite speak for "Fuck off parasites"
Since that Shareholder question is for those people who don't understand INVESTING and just demand a Nijisanji model

>>76745036
They don't have to

>>76740132
NO FUCKING ONE STREAMS AT EU HOURS

The usual Eu evening streams are... watame/luna late night stuff, the noel/polka/whoever morning greetings, some random kaela, and kiara a couple times a week for a couple hours.
Most of the time we get NOTHING, like ZERO streams from 7pm to 1am.

We mostly follow jp girls... at lunch/early afternoon, so current hololive EU audience are NEETS.

>>76739910
Weird to say this when they just had 9 streams yesterday and 4 today (not even including mengens), sister. There hasn’t been any empty day since ages ago

>>76745653
>kiara starts streaming when people are at work
>wtf why doesnt EU watch her
even if she didnt have a horrible voice and personality she would not be watched by euros because why the fuck should I watch a stream that started 2 hours before I got home

>>76745653
Of course, because EU doesn't bring in money. The only country worth mentioning in terms of sales for anything weeb related is France. Manga is huge there.

>>76745653
>we
I don't watch HoloJP
Now excuse me but i have like 12 different chuuba EN to watch from 5PM CET to 1AM

>>OP
>Every graphic using pictures of HoloEN talents
Myth truly saved Cover Corp

>>OP
>local retail stores
what the fuck does this mean? Am i gonna start seeing hololive shit at like walmart? Or are they just expanding to like the mall stores that also sell anime shit. I hope they elaborate on that in the future.

>>76739743
>>76740132
>Most JPs stream at 18:00-00:00 JPT, or 10:00-16:00 GMT, during which time most people here are at work
>Most NAs stream at 18:00-00:00 EDT, or 23:00-05:00 GMT, during which time most people are asleep
>the one EU chuuba we have is fucking Kiara
>the one NA that streams early is Ina and she discourages SC in general
>getting merch is a nightmare and a half
Wtf are we supposed to do?

>>76745905
>make no content for them
>they bring in no money
wow

>>76744048
Shit chart from 2014 since UK is not eu member anymore

>>76746124
Watch niji

>>76746124
>Wtf are we supposed to do?
Watch small corpos

>hiding homos
Lol

>>76739875
>already paying over double + import taxes on merch
>hurrdurr EU doesn't superchat
bitch we broke already

>>76744187
Then please explain ID branch.

>>76746424
thats the funny part
most of the eufags that watch vtubers are more broke than seafags

>>76746424

>>76746124
Small corps, Indies, Twitch has a strong EU scene, too. Just because Holo's dropping the ball doesn't mean there isn't anything for us.

>>76746424
When you exclude literal slum dwellers the Indonesian middle class literally has more disposable income than several EU countries and there's more of them even after excluding the poorest quantiles.

>>76746270

>>76746737

>>76746538
I don't think most people realize just how broke most people in the EU are. Not in the sense that they make little money (although EU salaries are shit compared to US salaries) but most of all it's the fact that housing and other costs take such an absolutely brutal percentage of the average EU salary.

>>76740341
I think it's simpler than that. If you create an EU branch, what language should they stream in? English? French? German? Dutch? Italian? Suppose you get a gen of three girls, one speaks German, one French, and one English. What language do they all collab in?

I think just the language issues alone make things a problem. If they just all stream in English, then they become HoloEN lite. A radically different approach and business strategy would probably be needed for Europe just on the basis of that alone.

>>76745036
>Keep telling investors off
Ok, joking asides, why would they do this? Did Holo leaders not have any PR experience? Surely they should know that this doesn't instill any confidence in investors, right?

>>76747007
They're not "telling them off". This is normal.

>>76747007
short-term/long-term
There's no confidence plays happening here.

>>76741396
Literally this
I will rather learn Japanese than watch fucking Kiara

Let's be real, if east coast stretched all the way to Europe Cover would be ignoring it too, they don't care about US, they care about California

Amerisharts and SEAs acting like they know anything about us yuros or how we live is honestly insulting

>>76747169
California might as well be the US since that’s where all the pop culture trash your country produces comes from
When foreigners hear America they think Los Angeles

>>76746857
Cucked by taxes lol

>>76747189
heh poors

>>76747007
They only opened their stocks so they could get liquid capital to pay for the studio, now that that's done they legit don't care to keep stock investors around

>>76741214
Oh right, here's a fun statistic based on Okayu's Factorio streams that usually stretched to EU hours not including the finale, that one lasted like three hours
Of note is that this ignores memberships of all sorts and she pretty much never streams at anything resembling EU hours outside of this series

>>76747317
>CZK
somehow wasn’t me

>>76745905
>EU doesn't bring in money.
you really think Indonesia bring more ?

>>76747422
Indonesia bring sheer number of viewers as part of the SEA weab circle.

>>76745905
>france meme again
It's not 2005 anymore

I just saw the translated investors meeting.
Fucking hell if Yagoo wasn't who he is Cover and Hololive would have fucking gone down the shitters years ago.
These fucking investors really only care about how much they can greed it up and squeeze any amount possible, even if their golden goose dies the same day.

poor yuros can't afford to support their oshis because of their semen taxes, sad :(

>>76747548
Yagoo = GOD

>>76747548
Can you post the TL?

>>76747548
>These fucking investors really only care about how much they can greed it up
Yep, they do this for every industry.

>>76746907
Why would we need new branch? Pretty sure the target demographic can understand english just fine. And last time I checked, HoloEN did not mean HoloNA (even though they should rename it to that)

>>76745875
Honestly it's not even that streams start before people are home, it's that they are SC readings by then and she refuses to actually host talking streams instead gatekeeping her main content by hiding it under the label of SC reading

>>76747622
tl;dr is basically
There are some investors that are thinking that even with record breaking profits, they believe Cover did not really rake in a whole lot more because Cover spends to make themselves better.

That's basically the gist. They are questioning why does Cover is adamant to provide better services.

>>76747622
go read
https://contents.xj-storage.jp/xcontents/AS05169/31f97c9e/ca51/4e5e/93f0/e4dc09cd88e7/20240527154734371s.pdf

>>76747779
>>76747839
Zanks

>>76747548
Hololive would unironically be Nijisanji 2.0 if it wasn't for Yagoo

>>76747501
Then why are IDs 3 views most of the time then?

>>76747622
>Cover believes that having more Vtubers will be detrimental to current growth because they will spread themselves too thin and will have a hard time supporting their current talents.
>Most likely will get 2 more Vtuber group debuts and then will stop for a long while.
>Cover now wants Vtubers that can help them provide diverse new audiences. Raden is a big example for them.
>They said that there is no point debuting more if it's just going to cannibalize viewership, collab/sponsorships, meet and greets, sololives, other opportunities from existing talents.
In short, they want to really support their existing talents properly with the two other groups incoming later this year or the next. They don't want a Niji groupy situation happening.

>>76747548
Well thats what investing is for, to make money

>>76747548
>investors are parasites that should be rounded up and shot
wow
i didn’t know that
you’re telling me now for the first time

>>76746907
English is the lingua franca you fucking retard everyone who isn’t a complete dumbass understands it here

>>76748018
>diverse new audiences
Yeah, good luck with that.

>>76748116
this is a public basketweaving forum you nonce

>>76746279
>>76746650
Problem:
>Cover doesn't plan to invest in any EU events
Possible reason:
>EU doesn't superchat
Possible causes:
>there's no EU friendly streamer in holoEN and merch is expensive or not available
The conclusion?
>juSt WaTCh indIeS and TWitcH

>>76746124
>Wtf are we supposed to do?

You we’re supposed to prop Kiara up enough to get a foothold…..

>Be European
>Have to order merch through forwarder
>Cover assumes no one in Europe buys merch

>>76748383
I'd rather die

>>76748416
No anon, you have to buy via Geekjack so you can receive the merch next year!

>>76748484
I unironically do this because it’s the easiest way to get merch…

Lucky me, I like watching Kiara
But otherwise there are like a dozen good indie chuubas who all stream in European watchable hours, no I'm not telling you who they are you'll ruin their niche appeal.

Legit, just watch indies, Europe imploded their own markets and currency for some reason and my own country, whilst not part of the EU, is being retarded in a different but similar way. On a more relevant note, I'm happy that Cover are telling investors to fuck off for now, but I don't know how much they can really hold on before the demands for dividends start becoming louder and louder.

>>76747557
Fuck that takes me back when /sp/ was far less shit than it is now.

>>76747548
Remember in this age "Investment" means getting done within a quarter and not waiting year if not decades for your payoff.
Long Term Planning has gone from a 5-10 year plan to next year at Longest.

The Capitalist class has forgotten how to make more money in the longer term and just want endless pump and dumps for instant gratification..

>>76748599
Geekjack is way more inconvenient and difficult when you have a good proxy figured out.
I wait and pay less by just shipping everything to tenso.

>>76741214
>Some holos stream during euro hours.
Whenever I'm working from home I'm usually looking for a stream to watch after lunchtime and it's usually nothing but JPs streaming, does that count as euro hours?

>>76748686
>Legit, just watch indies
There's also a bunch of girls from smaller corpos like idol, phase and v4 that are either euros or stream on euro friendly hours.

>>76748484
I remember ordering from geekjack and then few months later EMS was shut down, I had to wait a year because they don't give you any choice for shipping

>>76739875
We do, but through proxy services. I wonder how many JP purchases are from Tenso or other services like that.

>>76748871
But anon, you do not understand. I won't be able to complain on 4chan.org about lack of streams if I watch your indies and small corpos

>>76746424
I was an exchange student in nipland and I think I know the real answer. I noticed a weirdly widespread belief among professors, guest speakers from the government or big business, and many students that Indonesia is the Next Big Thing because...it has alot of young people? India does too but I didn't encounter nearly as much optimism for India, so...yeah I think it's just hype, but they really believe in it to the point where there are programs for nips to learn Indospeak.

>be eastern european
>get back from work
>watame starts the stream
It's good to be watamate, at worst I miss the 1st hour of the stream.

>>OP
it's owari over

>>76749057
I just want someone else from holo EN than Kiara (no offense) to watch at a time that isn’t during work hours or sleep destroying times.
Mori used to be watchable until she too committed to NA times.

>>76749318
No.... no more new blood excitement...

>>76748686
>Legit, just watch indies
Yeah man, just let me watch these cool chuubas that usually fall bellow quality standards of hololive and the most idol-like thing they will do is a single karaoke per four months and are sixty times as likely to get engaged in politics or drama
Yeah there's a few that are actually worth watching but it's simply not worth the effort to find them and once you do they provide experience that is usually quite different from hololive one

>>76749344
Kiara being a EU streamer was a complete accident too since she lived in Japan when she auditioned.

>>76748484
I am only one that had no trouble getting from geekjack? Sure it might take few weeks longer. To be fair first time I ordered was after Covid was gone, so maybe that had bigger impact.

>>76749318
This will be the end of hololive.

>>76749318
EN will consist of Mori, Bae, Kiara, and Biboo by this time next year

>>76739811
Then tell cover to hire 2 views who stream every day.
Oh wait they won't because they're too busy picking out every Asian or Canadian they can find.

>>76747317
So eyeballing it EU contributed 70% of what USA contributed yet we get no streams and no official shop...

>>76748686
I don’t want to watch vtubers I want to watch hololive

>>76749594
More of 60% really, there's European total at the bottom

>>76748245
EU superchats when they get pandered too see Okayus factorio streams >>76747317
With us being so neglected we still almost donate as much as USA yet we get nothing in return so start watching small corpos. Kanna from PixelLink is cute with a norwegian accent, she does a lot of gaming and ASMR

>>76749714
Does she produce music and perform at idol concerts? I don’t give a shit about game streams

>>76749318
Over half the ENs don't fucking stream and we are going to get idolshit pushed on us.
Fuck that.

>>OP
I wish they'd consider partnering up with Lawson in flipland to dab on the nijipagpags

Gas all idolshitters

>>76749821
I don't think anyone brought up jewcorp?

>>76740648
being a shonenfag, pokemonfucker or a sailortranny doesn't guarantee they'd be into vtubers
I know a lot of people who are only into anime and manga, and find vtubers a weird concept

>>76749318
For JPs that makes sense but do they really think they can run EN with just 14 talents with the risk that 1/3 of the talents seem to be sick or gone?

>>76749821
SINGING AND DANCING IS GOOD BECAUSE...
ITS JUST IS!!!!!

>>76749913
Just watch DA BOOOIIIIIZ, that is what Yagoo wants you to do. That is why he didnt give us new girls for 2 years and blamed the wait times at the 3D studio yet debuted 12 homos in record time that clogs up the studio

Once again the time has come for me to question all eurobeggars. If the EU market has so much untapped potential, where is the EU version of VShojo or Isegye? How come all you have to show for is indies and small corpos? Where's the MONEY?

>>76749979
Singing is nice on stream especially if she plays guitar or piano while doing it. Otherwise I dont really give a shit about concerts or anything, it just seems like a massive time waste to me

>>76749979
this but unironically

>>76749821
>>76749979
Why do you hate them, anons

>>76749762
>us
who is this “us”?
idolshit is what i watch hololive for

>>76749910
Instead we are getting saddled with faggots who just want to watch slop anime where people just talk and then engage in shipping autism online.
>>76750025
>Watch the boys
I would watch the boys
IF THEY FUCKING STREAMED BUT THEY DONT. THEY'RE JUST AS LAZY AS THE WHORES.
What is the point in Advent and Armis if they do jack shit? At this point I'm having more fun watching 1 views than those retards.

>>76750082
Seethe

>>76750117
Because they're nijiniggers trying to fit in.

>>76749913
The EN market is much smaller than JP. I don't regularly track numbers, but it does seem like EN views are down. And EN has a serious work ethic problem which stupid fans reward them for.

>>76750226
>idolfags
>nijiniggers
you cannot be serious lmfao

>>76740684
That can't be right? By reading the completely legit good faith opinions from this thread, I can see that this whole Q4 thing is just doom and gloom.

>>76748018
god damnit cover, there is still room in the audience for 2 new EN girls gens. There's so many EN's that simply don't stream consistently anymore.

>>76750026
yuros really fucking hate corporations, anon. not in chuubas, but pretty much everything. besides, whether they're in a chuubacorp or not doesn't make them any more or less entertaining as streamers at least.

>>76750117
the music is rather mid

>>76750082
Events are all massive time wastes. Especially if they happen too frequently because they become a burden for everyone involved. It's much better to have the consistent viewer engagement so that what events that do happen can have some impact.
But the truth is that events will never top normal streams.

>>76750224
there's a better version of that

>>76750224
And was it worth turning Fauna into a puddle? Fuck no

I think most EU listeners are watching JP Holomen.

>>76750316
Where do you find the audacity to say completely untrue shit about an entire continent? People here are even bigger consoomers than amerifats somehow

>>76750361
actual fucking chad

>>76750326
>t. ironic weeb

>>76749318
>Superchat profit is stagnant
>Dev_is is struggling to get 2.5M subs total
What do you anons fuckin expect?!
Profit from weebs are not enough anymore

>>76750117
People like different things obviously.
I know it's kind of shocking when you think about it.
I'm just glad that I'm the sort of guy that doesn't have a breakdown and falsely accuses someone of literally hating everything in the universe because they happen to like something over another.

>>76750394
correct
easier to learn japanese than to stay up till 6AM or watch VODs

>>76750240
>The EN market is much smaller than JP
That's entirely Cover's fault, though. We're 3 gens in and the eastcoast still doesn't get proper coverage, and Europe/Australia get crumbs at best. I was hoping their investors would fucking cook Cover for not tackling these markets but those guys don't seem to give a shit about anything other than the JP side of things themselves. Japanese corporate autism truly is something else.

>>76750316
That is somewhat true for me. While I dont like all the decisions that EU makes, it brings me joy when microsoft, google or apple get fucked by regulations (bye bye bing from windows search, it actually works now, somewhat)

>>76749594
>>76749714
You have to keep in mind that this was a JP stream that stretched to EU hours. Not only NA (not just US) wasn't the targeted audience here, but it happened in the very awkward timeslot for NA as well (a lot harder for your average NA viewer to watch compared to EU, at least). Yet, with all that "advantage", all of EU still could only reach roughly 60% of US SCs alone - that's not a good thing like you think it is.

>>76750326
Most music is mid. The people who are obsessed with it are the underages who obsessed over anime OPs, EDs, and AMVs.

>>76750554
>hololive has cultivated an american audience for 4 years
>haha they beat EU at an inconvenient time for NA
Are you capable of rational and critical thought or has the trans fats clogged up your brain?

>>76750575
>underage is when you don’t listen to chimp rhymes and edgy middle aged men screaming in a deep voice

>>76739743
Come home

>>76750688
>Racism outside of /b/
Uhhh why are you conceding?

>>76750789
go back twittard

>>76750763
is the middle one as bratty and smug as she appears?

>>76750789
We hate niggers here, sir

>>76740035
>blocking anime
What

>>76750554
At least she occasionally starts her streams at early morning in US, most of the time if you live on east coast, so she's actually capable of picking up audience

>>76750549
Investors should just tell Yagoo to terminate homos and hire more girls to cover more timezones.

>>76750857
No

>>76750348
This. Events are fun but not at the expense of actual streams. The only reason I'm hyped for events is because I know the girls from streaming.

>>76750326
I understand people can have different tastes, and some holofans get overly defensive over the music, but they're not really that good to be honest
The only original songs from them I truly liked were Everblue, Kakero and Astrogirl ('s instrumentals)

>>76750763
They actually just debuted a Norwegian chuuba and she's really cute.

>>76750668
EU audience had all those 4 years to watch Holo, too. If there wasn't enough interest in 4 years, how can you be so confident that there would be in the future?
And don't give me the "Only Kiara streams in that timeslot". FWMC tried too for months (FWMC morning and occasional gaming streams), and so did Shiori occasionally. If we are to go by SC, EU didn't seem to be that interested in those two either.

>>76751111
How many did you listen to? Most aren’t on YouTube because they don’t get an MV

>>76740035
This already happened

>>76750348
falseflagging nijinigger or tourist secondary
call it

>>76750326
Leaving asides the fact that that is rather subjective, you don't go to idol concerts for the music

>>76751111
Forgot to mention Stardust Song, that song slaps. Just to prove I'm not averse to idol music in general, but hololive's......
>>76751263
I've listened to everything from before Sana left (I can't think of any other time reference) and most of their songs just aren't for me
Song covers and utawaku streams are different though, for karaoke it's more about having fun than singing professionally so I don't have high expectations

>>76751226
Thanks TeletubbiesWithTits, thanks for 30 minutes of scraps. You really deserve my money for that.

>>76751226
>all those 4 years
>just mentions advent trying in the EU slot occasionally
are you listening to yourself right now? EU knows that no one will actually be there long term so why bother because that is how I see it. I watch and SC my small corpo chuuba that I know is in it for the long term in EU hours and if someone from Hololive streams EU hours and it looks like an entertaining stream I will watch but not SC because why should I be reduced to a paypig for a big corpo chuuba that I know has her audience in america.

>>76751019
Shame, I'll go check out the witch hat instead then.

>>76740249
I agree on the last point. On a area smaller than the whole USA coexist spanish, portuguese, french, german, english, italian and many more. There is no point on making HoloEU when already most of us already understamd english, and trying to cater to each country doesn't make sense.

>>76751443
Try Mio's album and Towa's latest album
Night Loop and Cry Out respectively

>>76739743
RIP

>>76751445
>>76751456
With all due respect, you should stick to your small corpo chuuba then if you want to be pandered hard first before showing any significant form of supports.
NA fans showed supports for Hololive before HoloEN was even a thing, that's why Cover decided and Coco pushed for HoloEN. Do you think HoloEN would even exist if NA fans decided that they wouldn't bother supporting the group before there was enough NA pandering contents?
You guys just seem picky and high and mighty AF. Cover tends to be conservative - if you want them to invest into EU market, you need to show them that the market is worth investing into first

>>76751226
>FWMC tried too for months
Wasn't over half of it Sakura Wars and Donkey Kong, at a rapidly declining frequency by the second week at that?

>>76751795
Do you think there wasn’t a single European watching hololive during Covid?

>>76751400
You're right about it being subjective. And you're probably right about idol concerts. I still struggle wrapping my head around going to concerts not for the music. Like I can understand but still ain't feeling it (admittedly a skill issue on my part)

>>76751226
Occasional is not how you get new viewers/fans, consistency is still the key. and HoloENs have not really changed their timeslots in those 4 years. Only EN I can watch is Mumei and that is during morning hours

>>76751795
>Cover tends to be conservative
Homostars JP and Homostars EN shows that they are not conservative lmao

>>76751905
Sometimes you just go for the show, like Rammstein. Other times you just go for the vibe like with festivals, raves or dance parties and so on.

>>76751795
>You guys just seem picky
Well shit, I'm not gonna waste my time watching something that isn't interesting (Kiara, Teletubby morning) or something I can't understand (HoloJP) in the frail hopes that Cover-senpai would notice me.

>>76751905
Who said we don’t go for the music?

>>OP
NijiGODS, we won.

>>76747964
because they aren;t?

>>76747142
and then eutards whine about not being pandered to

i don't really understand their disdain for EU. they'd see more support from us if they decided to expand their business here. why the fuck would i spend money on vtubers that stream at 3-4 am and having to pay 2-3x as much for merch because of insane shipping and taxes? it's so retarded. just fucking give me things to spend money on and i will, you retarded chinks.

>>76751994
Anon, Holostars English makes more money in a month than HoloEU would make in a year.

>>76748428
If that means we don't have to listen to eubeggar's interminable whining I wholeheartedly agree

>>76752156
>you retarded chinks
might be why

Weirdly enough european prime time is considered to be the prime time for streamers on twitch, no idea why it's the opposite for vtubers.

>>76752379
>a word uttered in frustration is worse than atomic bombs being dropped on cities
great take buddy

>>76751994
The homo are Yagoo's pet project so they are only part of the business on paper. Unless Cover is going to bankrupt, they will exist regardless whether they are or aren't actually profitable.
You are free to try to get Yagoo to love EU and create HoloEU as his new pet project

>>76750549
Oh fuck off anon, the EN market is small because it's a subset of the anime market, and there's nothing Yagoo or the entirety of cover can do to expand that. It's not like the JP market where it runs the gamut from normies to the elderly

>>76752156
If companies could only figure out a way to distribute merch in the EU in a way that we don't end up paying as much in shipping as we did for the fucking merch itself then that would already solve a large part of their EU woes. But that is easier said than done because if there's one thing the EU hasn't done a good job in integrating is a unified postal service system. To this day someone ordering something from France can get radically different shipping costs ordering something from Spain, Italy or Germany despite sharing a border with all 3.

>>76752517
plenty of chinese companies have managed to set up distribution centers here that allows you to order tax free from china, so i don't see why cover wouldn't be able to

>>76752168
Homo watcher full of copium.

>>76752064
but that doesn't stop you from bitching endlessly about cover senpai not noticing you now does it?

>>76752563
Bugs are more efficient than Nips, it is known.

>>76752499
I'm going to state up front that the star are probably not unprofitable, just not as profitable as hololive. I very much doubt they are actually putting them in the red

>>76752499
>The homo are Yagoo's pet project
>You are free to try to get Yagoo to love EU
It's so simple guys... what we need is HomoEU

>>76752064
Yeah, that's why I am doing my JP reps, JP holos are pretty great whenever I get to catch them

>>76752588
Fine, you win. It's almost EU prime time anyway so I'll go and watch HoloEN streams and leave you alone.

>>76752563
That would require a massive investment which the Japanese government could certainly make given that financing distributions centers for Japanese companies would do wonders for their economy but they won't because they're dead set on keeping losing to the chinks. But to be fair it's politically hard to justify using taxpayer money to fund infrastructure outside of your own country despite the fact that it worked very well for the chinese.

>>76752683
>HomoEU
I blame Vox and Mysta. Yagoo probably lost his confidence when even two brits ditched EU market to pander to chinks

>>76749318
You mean it's perfect. Only nijiniggers thinks that hiring multiple gens a year is a long-term plan.

>>76752785
Does Japanese company need a permission from government to put a "distribution centre" outside of Japan? Tiny American record labels do that for Europe.

>>76752785
It worked well for the chinese because they've been experiencing a non stop economic boom for the past 30 years and thus had money flowing out of their assholes, unlike Japan which has spent the last 30 years barely treading water and now their economy is on the verge of collapse

>>76753042
No but it's expensive to build, stuff like record and game companies usually find local partners but even than that's sometimes hard and takes several years to build up (who here remembers waiting over a full year for new Atlus games to come out in Europe because their pre-Sega distribution deals were so fucked up?). It's perfectly conceivable that a third party company could set that up and offer distribution services to japanese companies but AFAIK nobody's done it a large enough scale yet.

>>76752666
They definitely aren't profitable. The amount of views they get does not justify the expenses.
Company-wise, they see it as an investment in case homos ever become something trending.

>>76753265
I think you're vastly overestimating how much money that gets poured into them or underestimating just how much even a 700 ccv streamer can bring in

>>76752765
Based, me too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eO4v79MGuY

>>76752765
I am going to watch HoloEU (PixelLink) newly debuted talent in 15 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPXrZEv0Lms

>>76739912
Deservedly so

>>76743882
Yeah because EU is a "country", right? It's totally not about the time zones

>>76740035
>schizo only understands 1 meaning of a word
Anonchama, I don't think you're going to make it...

>>76753758
he's gotten /pol/rot, please understand

>>76743882
>aggregate twitch peak CCV is during EU primetime
>hololive streamers could never work in the global stream demand peak
? ? ?

>>76739743
What happened with the project?

>>76753333
I think you are underestimating how much it costs in human resources to manage, design and make merch, and also the marketing costs which can easily cost up to half of their expenditures.
If you look up other corpos who have talents within the high 3view range/ low 4 view, you will see the huge discrepancy there is in terms of quality of merch, assets given, and management overhead.
Of course, due to the Hololive Brand, homos gets more than the average 3 view in superchats and merch, but it definitely doesn't pay for itself.
The problem is that they have even more to lose if they close the branch, in terms of immediate backlash and future opportunities.

>thread about Cover's investors meeting
>80% of the replies are a yurobeggar losing his shit

>>76753974
every time

>>76739743
Europoors...

>>76753974
>thread about Cover's investors meeting
>80% of the replies are a third worlders seething about Europe, again
ftfy

>>76741417
>most euros are on twitch
Kind of them to segregate themselves into a ghetto of their own free will

>>76740035
YWNBAJ negro

Jesus Christ. If these traders still weren't convince that this Holo's fiscal year is a success even when they showed clear growth through many graphs, then I can't imagine what will happen in Anycolor's meeting room

>>76753333
Each homo probably has to pay for like 3 or 4 full time employees. And Hololive still considers themselves to be understaffed.
There is no way the homos are making a profit for the company.

>>76753902
>Twitch numbers
Firstly, ewww, Twitch numbers.
Secondly, let's just leave asides how inflated Twitch numbers are, how many of those CCVs were for VTubers? VTubers are different from flesh streamers. It wouldn't matter if Twitch gets 1 billions CCV during EU hours if 999,999,000 of those were watching flesh streamers.

>>76754062
They're still mad we raped their ancestors. lol

>>76754110
>Clearly Anycolor, the scene leader. crashing is sign of scene collapsing, better to dump the Cover stock

>>76754112
you know resources are pooled and they don't all have 3-4 people dedicated solely to them right?

>>76754129
Are you retarded, the fact is that EU prime time catches most of the relevant timezones which includes NA too.

>>76741594
>thinks schizo green woman's doomed endeavor is "the first proper attempt"

>>76754203
This is why I said at least 3~4, it's the pooled hours they need among dozens and dozens of individuals who have to spend hours of their day to the homos.
Without to mention the managers who are full time working on the homos.

I still find it funny that the whole EU issue could be heavily alleviated by Fauna deciding to stream a hour earlier

>>76754327
Wouldnt that make her the Kiara of NA? Starting to stream when people are at work, in their commute or when they are out doing errands

>>76742797
Once again it turns out that chumkeks are the biggest problem

>>76751226
fwmc streamed at such a nice "midnight" time and it was fucking sakura wars, shit games and shit time. there is nobody beside kiara
i get it if cover doesn't care for those euro hours i watch jp or other things anyway

>>76754327
>>76754402
FST is fucking midnight in the most of Europe.

>>76754327
No? 10 - 11 pm still not watchable to anyone with a job

>>76741594
this board is full of holofag denial but there's so much more shit you can get away with on youtube that you can't do on twitch. twitch has more visibility for bikini streams with their pools & hot tubs category but there's plenty of them on youtube and they're even wilder there. you don't even need a pool. the dress code is basically "cover nipples and pussy" and then you're good. vtuber outfits can be way more lewd, showing underboob, vagina bones, etc. and skirting around bans is easier, especially with corporate backing. basically, unsurprisingly, the platform with zero human moderators is better for lewd stuff.

t. coomer

>>76754532
It worked well enough for Ina to gather notable percentage of EU holo fans

>>76754655
Getting unbanned is much harder on youtube though

>>76746907
>one speaks German, one French, and one English. What language do they all collab in?
French, or the collective tantrum of every frog weeaboo will tear the fabric of the universe from the combined tension of how far up their own asses the french are.

>>76754327
>midnight
no thanks

>>76754180
>we
Anon, you have not raped anyone. Or is this an admission?

>>76746907
Everyone understands English, even the Fr*nch even if they refuse to speak it

>>76747189
That's just how irrelevant you are

>>76748170
you say that but the french still throw bitchfits over it every time

>>76754702
you can just make a new account under a different name and you're good. like another manager or company employee.

>>76754496
>Shitting on Sakura Wars
You can't catch me, Krabs! Not when I shift into MAXIMUM OVERSISTER

>>76754754
It is. I raped your dad.

>>76754083
It's because emotes are the lingua franca of twitch, so they don't have to bother with english

>>76748199
It's already happening. Raden's audience skews rather older on average. That's the kind of stuff they are going for.

>>76754852
the dialog was fun/stupid, i'm looking at you diana, but the actual robot play is dogshit

>>76754670
was this before or after Covid? And if they still watch her, they either work from home or they are neets.

>>76750394
That's what I have been doing for years now.
I can't even remember when I watched an actual HoloEN stream anymore - definitely not in 2024.

>>76754967
Maybe, but fans get older too. Even I belong to different youtube age group now (I assume this is where the data is based off). I would be more interested how many new people watch Raden that have never watched other holo.

>>76752156
>i don't really understand their disdain for EU.
Because EU never demonstrated itself to be a market worth pursuing. Before EN, the markets EN caters to stayed up til 2, 3, 4, etc. in the morning watching and supporting JP enough that it gave them the confidence to believe there was a market there worth exploring. So far all EU does is complain.

>>76755621
>So far all EU does is complain.
Sorry. I have to kill some time before the EU stream of the day starts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eO4v79MGuY

>>76755805
Remember send akasupas to this hardworking Hololive Pruductions member, EU bros. It makes Yagoo see that you want more.

>>76739875
bro...

>>76753974
And Cover already said EU expansion in 2025 in the last two financial reports.
They need Cover USA infrastructure in place for proper overseas expansion.
>80% of the replies are a yurobeggar losing his shit
Of all the things to talk about in the report. They are demanding for Riku's type of expansion. Accelerate without the support. Could they be Falseflaggers? Happy to see Cover holding their stance. Future overseas expansion is going to be heavily reliant on Cover USA. Have to wait for it to be done properly.

>>76756072
Where is SEA?

Its interesting to note that Cover didnt mention Holostars not even once, neither in their FY Earnings report nor in the Shareholders interview...

If there are any Stars fans, this is the time to worry for your oshi future

>>76755805
And this is why EU fails. You've gotten it backwards. You can't expect to be pandered to before you show up. EU's contribution to a factorio stream that fell into EU time zones is about what NA's contribution was to Marine's streams in 2020 that fell into mid-workday timeslots. (8% for Marine's birthday countdown). EU's contributions to the two EN streamers (Kiara and Ina) who have streams that EU can catch are usually smaller then US, often smaller then CAD or sometimes JP/TWD.
Cover isn't going to make a leap of faith on trust me bro. If you are only going to donate and buy shit when specific vtubers you like do streams in your timezone, you'll be waiting for a very long time.

>>76756251
If it were ran by Riku, be very afraid; but Yagoo has their backs. Always have.

>>76754967
You mean the least popular gen they have got to date?
And I completely fault their idea of trying to pander to a different audience.
They marketed it as something different from Hololive, and it was right after the HLZNTL fiasco too.

>>76756072
How the fuck is just the UK so close to fucking Japan? Wth?

>>76756072

>>76756265
>If you are only going to donate and buy shit when specific vtubers you like do streams in your timezone
So blanket buy everyhting with insane postage? Nah, I don't like Hololive so much that I would lobotomize myself into drooling retard.

>>76756265
>Ina
>EU streamer

>>76754184
madness of the people, stock market is bipolar, etc etc

>>76756072
So europe is highest but I am still confused on what this data is based on. Content consumption is bit vague for me.

>>76755805
>watching trannies
nah, no thanks.

>>76756072
What does "MDs" mean?

>>76756834
McDonalds? Time to cancel cover if so.

>>76756265
HoloEN was a fucking experiment that was hard carried by Covid. Zero support and shit management showed how much they cared.

>>76756072
>still misusing this graph
Check the damn source, please. That data is not specific to Cover.

Very well guys, is almost 7pm EU dinner time, let's check some holo streams, yes?

soooo...

KAELA on minecraft, nice kaela you are honorary EU, more EU than kiara
KANADE also in minecraft (oh that's new)

Next streams are:

Koyori morning at midnight
Gura at 2 am

BUT WHY EU DO NOT SUPERCHAT JUST WHY

>>76757032
So what is the point of that chart? I want Cover to show their own numbers.

>>76757022
>Covid. Zero support
A legitimate excuse, unlike the one used for AR Live. But they knew they could have done better, and restructured management. Plus Cover USA.

Kanade streaming to >10k at this time? Wowza

>>76757342
That is chart is basically just there to justify their new US office to investors
>look the US consumes a lot so they'll consume a lot of our products too

>>76746907
No one's asking for a new EU branch, just get a couple more EU-based/focused talents for the nest EN gen, so we have alternatives to Kiara/late-night JPs

>>76755621
again, there's nothing worth pursuing in terms of hololive for someone living in the EU. meanwhile there are plenty of huge EU indies making bank, so obviously there is a market there? lol. you people keep making the same non-argument

>>76757594
hard to ignore

Man, the eu begging timeloop is my least favorite of all the timeloops.

>>76757675
>doesn't sell merch to EU
>"oh my god look EU doesn't buy merch"
what's the point of these disingenuous arguments? i genuinely don't get it

>>76757756
Have patience >>76756082

>>76756265
You don't bring the market to the products, you bring the products to a market.

>>76757112
Not streaming in EU timezones is a talent choice, not a company requirement. Cover does not force any talent to stream at any particular time, if they aren't streaming in EU hours, it's because they don't want it.
It falls on EU viewers to try to convince the talents that it's worth streaming in EU hours.

>>76757860
>not a company requirement. Cover does not force any talent to stream at any particular time
I remember Vesper saying he outright had to fight management to be allowed to do his EU hours streams, also some girls too I think?

>>76750394
This. Thankfully I've been a student/NEET so far and can watch Miko at noon, and I'd sometimes wreck my sleep schedule to catch ENs at 2am. Dunno what I'll do when I get a job tho

>>76758141
>fight management to be allowed to do his EU hours streams, also some girls too
Source?