/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Kizuna AI getting cucked by Pmaru wasn’t very virtual.

You don't get it, they are still people behind the avatars and we should respect them and encourage them in getting more confident in showing themselves!!

>>75171775
How have you not realized that this is a personal problem? I understand that there's a lot of validation /here/, but reality not living up to your expectations reflects an issue with your expectations, not reality.

>>75172074
Nah, this is just western tourists and grifters corrupting the hobby into just an extension of fleshstreaming for when they don't feel like putting on makeup, it's fucking disgusting

It's the parasocial equivalent of a striptease, once you think of it like that it makes perfect sense

>>75172159
But it's not. JP vtubers talk about their IRL and families all the time. You are trying to corrupt the hobby to exclude the things that you personally dislike. Again, that's a personal problem.

>>75171864
One man ended the OG vtubing Gods and Hololive was born from the ashes

It's fine if they have nice asses.

>>75171775
Sort of agree but the biggest offender is any sort of body reveal.

These women need to be more creative and embrace larping as an anime girl more. Otherwise why bother with these fantastical outfit designs and lore?

>>75172074
shut the fuck you retard

>>75172159
Peko mama, marine dad? That just happened this month

>>75171775
Ky0resu

>>75172815
kek stay mad in your safe space

>>75171775
Hololive does it so it's ok

>>75171775
>not every single vtuber caters to my specific preferences
>AAAAAAIIIIIIIEEEE

>>75172778
Super expensive animated DEEPEST LORE video by Merryweather:
>tragic half-goddess half-demon trapped in an endless timeloop of suffering and decay finally manifest her body in the mortal plane in order to end the cycle of suffering and reach salviation
Stream content
>so chat yesterday ripped a huge fart while i kept thinking about my ex from highschool and thanks you so much for 9000 bits for my new dragon dildo

>>75171775
>Implying older vtubers didnt do this
Sure anon sure

>>75171775
Most vtubers are women, and women love attention. This was bound to happen eventually.

>>75173202
>>75173246
Who?
I only watch Hololive

>>75173280
Yeah only women do this and only women love attention

Glad that Hololive has set some restrictions and covers IRL content with models.

>>75172954
The irony of this post.

>>75171775
Unironically i dont care about virtual i wamt cute. That one Elle Freya stream or the recent Kyoresu stream showed taht can you do an irl stream and be MORE more anime girl energy than a vtuber. It goes the other way too, you can be a vtuber and never even show hands and have less anime girl energy than an chuuba doing an irl stream

>>75173581
There's no irony in not being mad.

>>75173381
Correct

>>75173809
>Why do you expect virtual youtubers to stay virtual? This is an issue with you and your expectations only, not with any trends or creators within the scene. Stay mad in you safe space, chud!

>>75174405
Do you really think being upset on /here/ is going to change the trends or creators within the scene? Obviously, you should prioritize what you can change, which happens to be your expectations in this case.

>>75174518
>nooo why are you posting this on /vt/
this is the vtuber board where we discuss vtubers retard

>>75174757
You obviously understood the point and are trying to strawman to win an argument that doesn't matter. I concede.

>>75174518
>Do you really think being upset on /here/ is going to change the trends or creators within the scene?
Yes, actually talking about it somewhere, even on a forchinz, and voicing disapproval is the first step. Fucking retard.

>>75171775
twitch is a cancer on the vtuber industry

>>75174518
Sister...if you wanna be a whore and be praised for it, onlyfans is always an option

>>75174757
>>75174874
>>75174895
Damn, the discord pulled up

>>75174895
but enough about marine

>>75174929
>act like a discord/twitter tourist
>accuse other of discord raiding
the absolute audacity of this bitch

Though >>75174895 suggesting you're some grifting 2view trend hopper makes way more sense. No amount of fleshie content is gonna save your dying channel if that's your attitude towards vtuber fans.

>>75171775
this is why Neuro-sama has become my new oshi, she doesn't even have a real body to flaunt

>>75175892
Based

>>75172074
you can work to change that reality.

>>75171775
>vtubers talk about their real life outside vtubing!
Realistically, how entertaining can a vtuber be if everything they talk about has to be limited to their character lore?
Most of these people aren't writers or storytellers, so it's not like they'll have some rich backstory and watching them is like slowly uncovering a grand narrative.
And just in a moment-to-moment sense, what the fuck do you talk about for 2-6+ hours 3-5+ days a week?

>>75174885
Most of those things have been done by talents from Holo, Niji, Phase, Idol... all of them basically

>>75171775
>kizuna ai wasn't like this.
She also wasn't an e-thot yet here we are with even corpos infested with them

I love when my 9000 year old mystic goddess vtuber does a zatsudan where she talks about that one time a guy started flirting with her at the store and her pussy got wet.

>>75179433
Just make shit up.

>>75179433
Use your creativity

>>75172074
Well said, but good luck getting the retards around here that are terminally obsessed with their delusions to listen to reason

>>75172074
>>75186772
>just lower your standards
No, I don't think I will.

>>75186772
fuck off

>>75173246
Was this the girl who went on a rooftop and tore down a locker with a sledge hammer?

>>75172074
Yeah, this is a 4chan autism thing. The window has absolutely shifted

>>75171775
retard

>>75171775
>kizuna ai wasn't like this
Kizuna literally went outside tho.

>>75171775
They should stick their heads on top of their rtx
https://youtu.be/jUbQ8VBISZw

>>75172074
The answer is in the site you are posting at.

>>75171775
Pretty ironic mentioning Kizunai AI, considering she was the one constantly using kizuna to feed clout into her roomate work in the japanese industry.
The entire several clones yab was because she wanted to severly cut down on kizuna to focus on some of the IRL roles her roomate got.

>>75194855
It doesn't matter what Kizuna's roommate did backstage, the point is that the character she presented was that of a digital girl who only existed in the virtual world and not an avatar for an irl woman. These newer vtubers don't even attempt to uphold any sort of kayfabe, they don't even try to separate their real life from their vtuber persona besides just wearing the live2d rig.

>>75171775
>pic-unrelated went on a trip to Los Angeles
I bet you shat your diaper too

>>75196418
pic-related*

>>75196367
Like most of the vtubers in the industry? Half of Hololive jp zatsus are just them talking about their daily life and its pretty relaxing, idk why you suddenly have an issue with something so common even back in 2018; granted most designs back then were: Japanese girl, often high-schooler, so there was nothing to have kayfabe on, unless you count something unique like Nazono, but she's explicitly a different character all together.

If Ishowspeed who is ten times as popular as Gura gets swatted a week after moving to a new house, imagine if vtubers had their real lives broadcasted so publicly. Do you think Gura has ever been swatted? Then you’d understand why it’s important that vtubers stay virtual

>>75171775
>>75172159
I know you niggers dint actually watch vtubers, especially /jp/ ones but they've been doing this before 2020. Every heard of DWU? Azumalim? How the fuck do you sit here and go try to say all "vtuber are like and only do x" when its not true for the /jp/ side? Do you remember when vtubing was more short form skits and videos instead of streams?

>>75171775
retard

>>75201526
JP cocksucker spotted

>>75171775
>kizuna ai wasn't like this.
thanks for the reminder

>>75171775
>vtubers describe each other's irl appearance!
I hate this, because I don't willingly look up the information, but when you have Kronii saying she's got a huge rack and others saying how beautiful she is, it makes me curious. And then Lamy, sweet as she is, talking about how her chest keeps growing. Why must they tempt me when I try not to cross that line of a fan?

>>75172225
I don't care if the stripper's married, I'm gonna keep jacking off if she's hot.

>>75216057
The point is to imagine them doing irl things as their virtual avatars.

Vtubers are just like any other streamers.
The only difference is that it's culturally infected by aspects of idol culture and that the streamers use a virtual face instead of a normal camera.
They are normal people behind the avatar and that will never change.

>unironically defending the new wave grifters that are trying to make flesh streaming the standard

>>75219740
It's the said grifters ITT defending themselves
Everyone is /here/

>>75171775
>describe each other's irl appearance
actually unacceptable if different from character
>met up irl
normal off-collab, you are too brainlet to imagine them as vtubers

>>75171775
Hololive does all the things you just listed you braindamaged brony

>>75171775
NOBODY wants to be a vtuber. Actually nobody on the fucking Earth, not even a single person prefers to get famous via an anime avatar instead of their own self. Which is why a lot of them tries to channel that audience to their real persona, usually without any success. This happens even in Hololive. Every single vtuber would immediately delete their model and start fleshstreaming if they were sure about being able to keep/grow their audience.

>>75225997
hololive doesn't do irl streams
handcams at best

>>75225997
op never claimed hololive didn't?

>>75216057
Kronii does have a huge rack though. I usually assume a holo is talking about their avatar unless otherwise stated. Like Fauna talking about her horns.

>>75219740
It's the talentless hacks themselves. Women need to learn their banal lives are boring as hell to hear about.

>>75175147
Show me where Marine is flashing parts of her irl body on stream. Go on, I'll wait.

>>75226121
>Every single vtuber would immediately delete their model and start fleshstreaming if they were sure about being able to keep/grow their audience.
I don't. I have been avoiding showing my ugly mug when recording LPs and streams for the past decade or so, no webcam or anything.
Then again, I'm not a woman.

>>75171775
Vtubing really has change

>>75219291
I always saw it as more privacy with more chuuni

>>75227014
why watch chicks be vtubers if you hate women?
why not watch men or something like Neuro-sama?

>>75172074
>trying to appeal to reason, logic, and common knowledge
>on /vt/ of all places
holy kek, (you) must be new here, grab a chair, take a seat, get some snacks and enjoy the show the retards like >>75172159 put on
just look at it as a visit to the zoo where you'd go to look and laugh at monkeys, just this here is for free, and you don't even need to leave the house

>>75172692
bao ass makes my pp hard

>>75234629
based baobble buddy

>>75171864
qrd?

i don't mind irl talk and enjoy creative handcam streams but i can't stand this fad of bringing their entire family on stream, something about it really doesn't sit right with me