/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

only hololive matters

>>74358473
One known for quality
One known for quantity
One known for Twitch monopoly

the way any color operates it will soon be the big 2 ...

>>74358473
should replace niji for phase now honestly

>>74359483
Who?

>>74359523
a company doing better and more loved than kurosanji

>>74358473
Not for long!

>>74359548
I meant either of them, though

>>74359442
>>74359483
get filtered

>>74359365
Hololive is known because it was babby's first vtuber agency for EOPs.

>>74359483
PFFFTT HAHAHAHA HAHAHA HAHA

Good joke. Come back when you're actually successful in Japan or have a monopoly

>>74359365
Literally nothing about holoshite can be described as quality

its really surprising to me that nijisanji has supporters at all

>>74359861
NIJISEETHE

>>74359861
PFFFTT HAHAHAHA HAHAHA HAHA

Good joke. Come back when you're actually successful outside Japan or have a monopoly

>>74358473
Someone replace the third with Phase Connect, one known for coffee selling, and see how long it takes before it gets reverted.

>>74358473
>Wikipedia
Self edited faggotry.

>>74360226
>Successful outside of Japan
You mean the golden 20 that beats out some Holos in earnings? You got it. Love to see fans of other corporations acting like they're hot shit because the big dogs are embroiled in drama. You're still at the bottom

>>74359771
retard

>>74360052
The Japanese niji fans are either blissfully ignorant or just as bad as western ones

>>74359919
huh why so angry about hololive? what did they do??

>>74359919
can you name another corpo then, anon?

>>74360363
>replying to /lig/ger bait

It's hilarious how they're shittalking hololive while fighting for second place. Please don't stop dancing, monkeys

>>74360391
sorry for being a newfag...

>>74360316
>golden 20
Oh, you mean the washed up hasbeens bleeding subs constantly and can only struggle to survive by leeching off the better members who already got chased out? Speaking of, can you even call them the golden 20 anymore if 4 of them are fucking gone?

>>74360429
ooooh I didn't know this
So it's golden 16 now right?

>>74359442
Lets be real, this corpo is kept alive by one talent, and if they left phase would crumble just as hard as idol and other small corpos right now.

>>74360444
more like the brown 16

>>74358473
Im convinced hololive is known for quality, especially after matsuri filmed an AV in gta

>>74359483
Kuzuha alone is worth more than Phase.

>>74360385
Corpos don't do quality. Vshojo is the closest but they're functionally indie.

>>74360327
Not an argument.

>>74360484
she was so real for that

>>74360429
Oh but even if you act like Niji is failing, they still are popular outside of Japan. Phase will never be. They're barely popular in the English market too. Stay in your place

>>74360512
You're probably just acting like you’re hot shit because your first exposure to vtubers was Kizuna Ai singing Hey Monika with PewDiePie and not Fubuki singing Scatman or Miko saying nigger, there is no need for an argument here

>>74360550
Oh, popular, huh so how's their growth looking?
...Oh

>>74360597
Fubuki singing scatman was how I got to know vtubers. And after what CCP chinks did to her I now hate the CCP with a fiery resolve

>>74360550
nijiniggers like you should stay in their place sucking black company dick.

>>74360632
>Subs= growth
What a retard. They still have more subs than anyone in phase btw. You and your corpo aren't hot shit. Go back to melting down in streams

>>74360689
I don't know who the fuck you think I am, but this nijicope is fucking hilarious.

>>74360463
srry im new, is it because they lost their western viewers or something? But then again they keep calling holofans like me holobrown so im confused

>>74360766
lurk before posting

>>74360720
>has Cookie art saved to bait drama with his brown hands
Wow. Who knew that it was phase cucks bringing Cookie to the numberfag drama

>>74360689
saving this to see how NijiEN does in the future kekw

>>74360766
oh, if you're actually new, basically around summer 2022 Niji EN was doing pretty well, and Luxiem was actually keeping pace with or surpassing holoEN at the time in terms of raw numbers, mostly due to the chinese and SEA market. They started to fall off again quickly though, and in early 2023 Millie Parfait did a stupid stream where some of the NijiEN members pretended to be 4chan and shat on all the other branch members. One of their big "roasts" was saying how Xsoleil flopped and how nobody outside of the "golden generation" was worth anything to the company. It stuck and became a meme.
In general though the Nijisanji "fans" on the board tend to get very active around SEA hours, often making awful threads to enrage everyone, and a lot of them seem to be from Indonesia, etc.

>>74360910
that's... kinda awful. isn't this considered borderline harassment of fellow co-workers? and the company actually allowed this?

>>74361011
yes

>>74361011
>Jokes = harassment
Glad to see the Vtubing community is still full of pussies

>>74359771
COPE

>>74361011
The company doesn’t care, EN is a side hustle for them.
The CEO of ANYCOLOR is a 26 year old Japanese university drop-out trustfund baby who publicly admitted that the company is pump and dump and that he will move onto a different venture once vtubers are no longer profitable enough

Vshojo isn't a corpo, they're a group

>>74360550
Nijisanji is not popular outside of Japan anymore and these days are entirely propped up by Japan

>>74361011
Yeah, it was a really fucking stupid idea for a stream. Here's a sped up version of the full thing if you want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg2XZDyi7Vs

I don't remember which member was who, but slumsaint is obviously Enna, since nobody else at the time could be that creative with their roasts. Nina, Pomu, and Selen specifically I remember weren't part of it. Pomu mentioned afterwards that she didn't want to participate because the idea made her uncomfortable, and Selen was never in Elira's unofficial discord server to begin with because she was "too shy." There was a LOT of bad shit in there that exposed pretty much a ton of insecurities that /vt/ didn't even know they had, like how Pomu was worried that her 3D debut was a flop because the wings didn't work, which nobody knew at the time. (And on top of that, it was never fixed until her graduation, which is why she never got home3D and Selen had to get her 3D models for vrchat instead.)

>>74360597
If Hololive had the quality, then they would've already been the clear number two in Japan behind Nijisanji in 2018. Instead, they needed five gens worth of "quality", the youtube algorithm, Chink and other ESL clippers, a whole lot of EOP pandering, and their closest competitors to nuke themselves to make it to the top 2.

>>74361060
you sound like the bully I encountered back in my school days.. is this a normal thing for vtubing or just niji only?

>>74361148
Yeah, nobody said they were offended by the stream. Just that they didn't want to participate in it. You're being offended on other people's behalf and saying they harassed people. You're all pussies

>>74361184
seethe
tokyo dome next year btw

>>74361106
that's really sad.

>>74361206
You actually got bullied in school? God, you're weak

>>74361212
Your halo match is starting, dudebro

>>74361148
This really isn't funny at all... is this a normal thing in vtubing or am I just a pussy

>>74361271
You're just a pussy

>>74361250
>internet tough guy
>on /vt/

>>74358964
>>only hololive matters

Only Kanata matters.


... and Pekora of course.

>>74361250
"I encountered". after that we got into a fight and it was resolved but he went on to bully others

>>74361271
>is this a normal thing in vtubing or am I just a pussy
no and no
ignore the LARPing retard replying to you
also you sound underage so maybe get off this shithole before its too late

>>74361290
I'm here at the zoo to laugh at the apes. Is there a problem?

>>74360510
>Vshitshow is quality
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>74361319
yea maybe i should lol ciao

>>74361235
>tokyo dome next year
kind of smells like it based on what some girls have been saying

>>74361271
It's widely considered /here/ to be one of the stupidest stream decisions in history because all it did was give people a TON of ammo to beat them over the head with.

>>74361320
really making me wish 'jaks weren’t banned

>>74361212
Didn't Mysta have a twitter meltdown over that stream since they were shit talking him while he slept?
Im pretty sure he was offended

>>74360689
"They have more subs"
nijinigger coping HARD while they are bleeding subs LOOL

>>74361349
NTA but I see why you were bullied, you're a redditor

>>74361271
No, it's not a normal thing, pretty much only nijisanji has done it

>>74361337
How much more expensive would the tickets be?

>>74361271
>>74361206
Newfriend, you’re being trolled. You seem too earnest to be a regular poster so I’ll let you know that /vt/ is generally a very cynical place (although that’s most of this site), and people don’t hesitate to be an ass just for the sake of it. Don’t take things that people say here to heart, they’re just getting a rise out of being anonymous, so take it with a grain of salt instead.

>>74361428
I'm not the kid who said he was bullied, dipshit
I don’t like morbidly obese faggots pretending to be high school jocks on the internet

>>74360510
>reactslop is quality

>>74361375
No because he wasn't even mentioned. Luca was multiple times and he didn't give a shit

>>74359483
The JP branch is still big.

>>74359919
I was like you once ... calling it Holoshit and all the girls Holosluts. Then I realized I was just jealous of everyone having fun with their oishi. It brought back too many painful memories of being betrayed by JPOP idols.

Usada Pekora is not only _THE_ most vtuber in Japan but the most watched female streamer on all of YouTube. People wouldn't watch it if it wasn't quality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Evl-BnmobkQ

and how could you not like that! She's playing DOA VENUS VACATION!!! :O

>>74358473
If you combine all the nijiEN, they could probably beat mouse... barely

>>74361500
That might be true but you're a bigger faggot than the wannabe internet tough guy for wanting to post
>'jaks
The fact that wanting to post a wojak even crossed your mind, then willingly typed it out and posted it in frustration tells me a lot about you and how much of a soft tittied bitchboy you are.
You're beyond pathetic even for /vt/ standards. Go back

>>74358473

Pick only one.

More than one waifu will destroy your laifu.

>>74358473
so this is where their 10 million dollars went. Building fake reputation of being on the same level as hololive or nijisanji. Truly a disgusting company though and through

>>74358473
Vshojo is supported by Twitch, which was its greatest strength.
But now Twitch's influence has waned, and that is dragging them down considerably.

>>74361672
Please don't treat a company as a waifu.

>>74361687
>so this is where their 10 million dollars went. Building fake reputation of being on the same level as hololive or nijisanji. Truly a disgusting company though and through
Better than 20 million on a failed stock buyback KEKAROO

>>74361619
>embedkek
anon... you don't believe she has THAT many real viewers do you...?

VSPO is as big as nijisanji and is going to overtake them this year

>>74361590
She's one of the best within Hololive for sure, but popularity doesn't always equal quality.

>>74362122
All these irrelevant corpo shills trying to take Nijisanji's spot in the big 3 is pretty funny. I don't even think they have concerts yet. Stay in your lane

>>74362204
>nijinigger talking about concerts
stay in your lane

>>74362204
I'm talking about the #2 spot though, niji will be #3 regardless what happens unless they completely disband.
Vshojo can keep dreaming at being relevant

>>74362122
>t. schizo

>>74362322
I like some of the v4mirai girls so I kinda hope brave gets big.

>>74362344
what exactly am I looking at?

>>74362373
6.5k bots

>>74362398
wait, that's why nobody's chatting? fucking bizarre.

>>74358473
I see 2 companies with a big black box in between. Whats's up with that?

>>74362122
Not by a long shot. You could have an argument if all of them performed as well as Hinano, but most of them can't even begin to compare to the top Nijis.
Brave will stay at number 3 for the foreseeable future.

>>74361717
No I don't think I will

>>74362122
VSPO is irrelevant.

>>74361235
Twitch con gets more attention and is more lit.
Remember that Vshojo has strong connections to such a big convention.

>>74361235
The greatest celebration of mediocrity known to man.

>>74358473
Pretty sure Vshojo is smaller than some other Japanese companies.
The only company relevant in all markets is h*lo.

>>74362322
Vshojo is on hololive's level

>>74363165
Anon, I don't even dislike vshojo and even I know that's cope.

>>74358473
Isn't VSPO bigger than vshojo? or was it another jp company?

>>74359483
>should replace niji for phase now honestly

>>74362204
Saving this, it's going to be really funny soon

>>74361235
Holo cope
Holofags probably doesn't even know that last year's Twitch con had 60k attendees.

>>74363085
>lit
kill yourself

>>74363422
This year's holo expo had 90k lol

>>74360447
Phase? They have many low 4views, they'd survive.

>>74363422
Anon... Holo expo is just holo. Twitch con is absolutely not just Vshojo. It's not vshojocon
The fact that there is no vshojocon already means it's not on holo's level.

>>74363505
Holo expo was held for 2 days.
That means 45k attendees per day.

>>74363526(me)
OK, I need sleep. I just reread what I posted and I sound completely ESL. I still stand by it, though.

>>74360510
>Vshojo is the closest

>>74363316
I can't wait to grudgepost you

>>74363293
I mean a small corpo beating nijisanji to the podium does deserve some celebration

>>74361110
I'm tired of catalog faggots not understanding how Vshojo works and then randomly blame vshojofags for "lying" about their corpo status.
Vshojo is a corpo with a CEO that has agency-like qualities.

>>74363712
Yeah, absolutely.

>>74360597
My first exposure to vtubers was Eilene making shitposts in video form.

>>74363554
Correct
And?

>>74363746
Vshojofags lie about a lot of things so it's normal to assume that they would lie about this too.

>>74363746
Yura has a 3D model?

>>74363712
The podium in your head? Pippa is Phase's only important member and she is nowhere near as successful as most big Nijis

>>74363837
That's just your vshojo derangement syndrome in action.

>>74363848
It's Kson.

>>74364126
Your latest round of lies is trying to convince everyone that zentranny isn't a man despite the peoof making it obvious.
You even organize raids into other threads in your cuck general.

>>74364308
You are completely delusional. Almost everybody on this board already believed that and did for years and nobody is organizing raids on other threads in /vsj+/

>>74364727
There have been several cross-thread links in your general over the past few weeks with of you moaning about the janitors not sping your bidding to hide thr latest proof. You've all even deluded yourself into believing that there is no proof.

>>74363975
>most big Nijis
You mean the ones that left or the ones that don't stream out of fear of backlash?

>>74360052
Remember hitler and nzi party anon?

>>74364836
Making a cross-thread post isn't an "organized raid" moron.
Also where is the supposed lie? That some don't believe your evidence or don't care about it? That's not a lie. You're already moving the goalposts extremely, out of curiosity let me ask you what fanbase you belong to?

>>74359771
>>74359919
NIJISEETHE

>>74365038
When the cross-thread post results in several people going into the linked thread and lying about what's obvious to everyone, it's a raid.
>That some don't believe your evidence
With the latest one it's not a matter of believing anyone. The facts are clear now.
>or don't care about it
They like say this but keep arguing so clearly they do care.

>>74365169
Why did you not answer my question anon?

>>74360447
Get with the times old man. Phase has 28 talents.

>>74365190
>p-p-please give me a target to shit on
I don't think I will.

>>74365262
Too afraid to show your flag, I see.
Well still, you claimed that vshojofags lie all the time but couldn't provide proof for it so I won regardless.

>>74363554
Last year's twitch con was held for 2 days.
That means 30k attendees per day, right?

>>74362122
I already consider VSPO to have a better quality of entertainment than what Nijisanji offers.

>>74365451
Keep seething. Everyone knows what you and your ilk do on this board.

>>74366369
Watching streams and wishing happiness for our oshi instead of trying to take others down, yeah.

>>74366446
That's not what you do.

>>74366477
Delusional.

>>74358473
last one are just the kings of twitch embeds

>>74361184
did you see how many talents niji has and they are literally toe to toe now lmao if that isnt a proof of quality vs quantity i dont know what that is, how can you say their 60+ vs 160+ are putting more numbers now and then cope like that lmao nijiniggers cant deflect anymore

>>74360689
>views dont matter
>subs dont matter
>merch having low numbers dont matter
>3d sucking doesnt matter
what matters anon? they suck at everything, in what metric do they compete with other companies now? are you gonna say shitting the bed every week is a talent now?

>>74358473
Holo be like "nigga it's just big me"

>>74358473
Out of those 160 how many have passed the 1 mil mark?

>>74368148
Where was all that quality before Coco? Forget Niji, Hololive couldn't even go toe to toe with Idol Club or Upd8. It was thanks to Coco and all the EOP pandering that they managed to monopolize the Western market and it all snowballed from there. Now everyone is watching Hololive because they think big numbers and marketing == quality.

>>74370397
Only 7 if im not wrong

>>74370639
cry about it chinaman

>>74359483
I want to see a debate on the wiki talk page about this tbdesu

>>74371062
>Saying positive things about Coco makes you a Chink
How's the weather in SEA, sister?

>>74364308
>You even organize raids into other threads in your cuck general.
You know any idiot can go check the /vsj+/ archives and see that you're lying, right?

Half that thread doesn't even look at the catalog because their thread is the only place on the board they can talk about their vtubers in peace.

>>74365169
>When the cross-thread post results in several people going into the linked thread and lying about what's obvious to everyone, it's a raid.
Nigga you don't know what a raid is

>>74361148
This really explains a lot; all of those who refused to participate in this shitshow have left. That stream is like a microcosm of Niji and its dynamics at the time.

>>74361271
It's not normal and that's why the niji fanbase is so fucking awful, they actually enjoy this kind of content because talking shit, gossiping, and spreading rumors is what they do on a daily basis.

>>74370981
Holy shit that sucks, meanwhile there's 42 members with one mil and over with AZKi currently going to do a 1 mil marathon singing stream on the 26th and Kronii reaching 1 mil soon too.

>>74360447
anon you're joking, phase is bigger than nijiEN

>>74361271
a lot of the people involved got stealth suspended with forced sudden vacations, it wasn't okay

>>74372589
Every single thread of yours has several posts seething about catalog threads and there's several of you in here right now, but yeah not a single vshojotranny cares about the catalog lmao

>>74358964
fpbp

>>74359771
Phasefag seethe

Next is Holo EN

What make phasefags so confident? They can't even beat the homo