/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

If you watch Sayu at all her face is just as expressive on her older models. The Zaion design is good but the rigging is apparently just Sayu being very expressive.

the biggest waste is not getting Sana's tits in 3D

>>69438078
The Sayu model is superior as anime cyberpunk is an aesthetic that doesn't ever get boring.
Its also super expressive in a way that doesn't rely on toggles.

>>69438078
It was a waste in the sense that Niji completely dropped the ball and acted like an absolute retard
All the Nijisisters who complained about wasting the model would have never been able to pilot it as good as Sayu did, they are just jealous
We got a kino reincarnation out of it though, Sayu did great

Sayu is an evolution of Zaion, so I don't miss her model that much.

I weep everyday thinking about the CEO of SEX tho

>>69438078
Whenever Rosemi graduates

>>69438078
The model sure was nice.
Unfortunately, it was also eternally flawed, by being asociated with Kurosanji.

Also, if Sayu really cared, she could always just pull a Miguel, and basically copy her old model.

>>69442815
Again though, the Sayu model is just an evolved Zaion.
Pay special attention to the jacket anon.

>>69442815
I'm pretty sure she was blacklisted by Anycolor soo even If she wanted a similar model her mama wouldn't want to work with her out of fear of being blacklisted too. Another Kurosanji unpunished crime

Fuck, I just love this model too much, Sayu's great but I just can't get over the lolisex design.

>>69443266
I don't know about her artist mama, but her model mama sent a DM to Sayu right after seeing to termination to offer her help if she wanted to come back ASAP

I love Nina Kosaka's design, its the best design Nijisanji ever had. Too bad she now has the worst design Vshojo ever had.

>>69443537
Mata's design is fine, focus on how expressive she is rather than the odd choice to make her a roach.
Though there are some people that are into that.

Even if Sayu is an evolution of Zaion.
They just have completely different feel to them.

Zaion had this fun "angry brat" feel to her.
While Sayu feels like some generic, old school sci-fi anime character.

Still wouldn't, and won't watch her, though.

>>69438078
No that was ironmouses 17th model which she used for 2 weeks. Same as the 16th and 18th.

>>69442815
Rushia is still to this day the best voice+model combo ever. It's unfortunate that the person is a complete basket case. But still

It forced Sayu to upgrade her model at (as far as the Zaion model was concerned) Niji's expense into another Zaion so it was hardly a waste.

>>69443795
>Zaion had this fun "angry brat" feel to her.
Valid.
>While Sayu feels like some generic, old school sci-fi anime character.
Which is a great feel and Sayu can rock the character hard, the expressions are what make Sayu so good.

Aster and Kyo being given to who they were given to was fucking tragic.

>>69443071
It's literally worse in every way.

>>69438078
>great model
Your taste is fucked up OP if you think her model was anything special at all

>>69438078
the model was wasted when it was applied to Nijisanji's laughably outdated tech.

ZAION MODEL WAS SEX INCARNATE FUCK NIJI I FUCKING HATE NIJI SO MUCH

>>69443918
I donno how anyone can have taste this awful, Sayu looks cool.

>>69443795
Yeah but the angry brat was unfortunately just the characterization Niji made for her. Smug sex brat hag suits Sayu much more. She behaves a bit differently than the short time when she was Zaion. The bratty act she did to play into her model during collabs was her being a good pilot but not how she would normally act.

>>69443847
Well, now we also have a Rushia in Phase.
Though, she doesn't scream like an absolute mad woman... yet.

>>69443699
>the odd choice to make her a roach
This will always be weird to me. I get the "can't keep me down" aspect and how some 2views have weird arthropod models, but roach seems like such a misguided choice for someone aiming to be a 4view, even if it's a "cute" roach. Maybe it was an aftereffect of the NijiEN gaslighting or something.

>>69442451
The queen of wasted models

>>69438078
>>69442815
I prefer the first iteration of menhera catgirl

>>69443886
Does she still play genshin most of the time?

>>69438078
Every half famous vtuber who graduates has somebody saying this about them.

>>69442451
Guchico got her back. I like how he added the pink to the Delutaya design because that was never in her concept designs she wanted green and purple(kek).

>>69444363
Gacha is only once a week.
She got wise, gacha is like playing an MMO.
You will get views but people will only tune in for their addiction, not the majority of your content.

>>69442451
>>69444397

>>69444331
The model was nice, but didn't really suit her character.

>>69443071
even at a technical level the Zaion model is better shaded, has better colors and shapes
second the Sayu model has this stupid shit western riggers do when every time she opens her eyes the pupils get smaller and it gets old and annoying really fast
not hating or anything

>>69438078
This is the one point I can't let go no matter what. They were literally handed a golden egg laying goose and somehow managed to kill it before the first egg was even laid. I knew it, you knew it, everyone knew, except NijiEN and its fans apparently. I could just tell from watching a few of her past streams and current streams she had potential to be huge and it would only be a matter of time as long as she laid off the Genshin streams a bit. Something going on within NijiEN constantly makes them and their fans blind to the obvious.

>>69439721
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>>69444069
I like the Sayu model, but the blue triangle on her forehead and how it's held up is a bit much.

>>69445347
Niji didn't understand the appeal of big bratty energy and after she found her flow she would've been fine.
Genshin would've fallen off as she got the support she wanted to start other content and making larger waves.
But NijiEN was retarded and nothing was learned.

>>69445583
Its just a visor.

>>69445347
they didn't deserve her. it sucks that her career was delayed for half a year and she had to endure a bunch of bullshit, but people are finding her now and realizing how great she is, and she's no longer trapped in a shitty niji contract

>>69445734
A visor is meant to protect the eyes.

>>69445347
>I could just tell from watching a few of her past streams and current streams she had potential to be huge
I had the same impression when I saw her, it just proves she got kicked out because the clique didn't like her instead of the random bullshit they made up to justify her termination

>>69445651
Seriously, what the fuck were they thinking? She had the potential to fill the brat niche they were sorely lacking. They really did not have a liver that you could say "NEEDS CORRECTION" for until Zaion.

>>69445347
>This is the one point I can't let go no matter what. They were literally handed a golden egg laying goose and somehow managed to kill it before the first egg was even laid.
You need actual managers that take care of the talents. Zaion only needed someone to kick her in the ass when she acted unprofessional and help her to find the right way to focus her energy. Instead, they just threw her in the trash. The good NijiEN talents are popular DESPITE management.

>>69446192
It does when she brings it down over her eyes.
She can also use it to display messages.

>>69442451
Aloe design was nice.
But it was the horny zoomer kind of nice.

Delta on the other hand, is just beautiful.
In a much more mature way.

The saddest thing is Zaion's mama for some reason doesn't do the "same face different body" most vtuber artists are known for, her NijiJP sister looks nothing like her soo I can't even cope with that, fuck NijiEN I don't care about Doki I hate you more for killing Zaion.

>>69445651
If she really wanted Zaion's likeness she should have copied her scowling eyebrows. That mattered much more than the jacket details.
I like her new design too but I actually think the black oversized jacket detracts from it.

>>69446537
Absolute Sexo, If only I wasn't an EOP I'd watch her.

>>69446772
The jacket was an instantly recognisable feature about Zaion, while I get that her main appeal was being bratty I don't think that would've suited the Sayu model unless she wass gonna go full tilt loli.

>>69446424
I'M GOING TO SAY IT
the visor looks dumb and she barely uses it, she needs a casual outfit

>>69447055
That's a perfectly valid opinion
Looking forward to her casual/summer outfits, would be interesting to see her without it

>>69447127
Sayu's indie money doesn't pay enough for alimony AND new models.

>>69446005
Plus she was forced out of her Genshin spam into a more balanced content mix. In the end I'd say it's a win for Sayu. She could use some more vindication in the public eye for the insane smear job Niji put her through, but even there she's making progress (courtesy of Doki & general momentum)

>>69447055
I don't disagree, it feels pretty vestigial to her aesthetic and just wanted some geometry to fill empty space on her head when a band would've done.
That said I hope she keeps rocking the cyberpunk clothing even in her summer outfit.

>>69447127
>would be interesting to see her without it
Did you see the sneak peak of the new outfit?

>>69447178
>He doesn't know

>>69447477
>Did you see the sneak peak of the new outfit?
No but if you did I need to see!
I need it!

>>69444397
But she returned hurt. She was no longer the ceo of sex but an hero survivor

>>69447542
It's up in the new web, but you need to be a member to see it. I'll give you a sneak peak of the sneak peak.

>>69438078
for me it was this one

imagine it

>>69447732
I'm still mad about this one. What the fuck?

>>69447698
Nice.

>>69443699
It's a way to cull the weak viewers so only the strong (roach fuckers) remain

>>69447938
I can see she is a fan of the later parts of Terraformars.

>>69438078
Sayu looks cool. I prefer this over the Zaion design. She reminds me of KOS-MOS which I appreciate

>>69438078
Probably the cutest expressions in any model ever.

>>69447758
>"Perfect flatness doesn't exi..."

I miss Lily from Idol.

>>69447758
God that's fucking hot.

>>69447649
She returned more powerful then any could imagine.

>>69447649
Reminder that this girl wore G-cup boobs prothesis in public.

>>69447758
Her school uniform + that flatness were the perfect combination T0T, fuuuuuuck I wanna get over her but you faggots won't let me.

>>69449770
based

>>69438078
>any corpo model
>good
nice one!

Wasting this model is the jews biggest crime.

>>69438078
In hindsight, she had the perfect voice to match the model
Fuck you Nijisanji

Oga with boobs > Sana

>>69447698
please tell me it's not a kvxart rig

>>69452069
Probably still yuniiho

>>69452134
speaking of yuniiho, did she retire from everything vtubing-related or just streaming?

Put Sayu in Zaion's clothes, and it'd be a sidegrade at worst.
But the rigging on Zaion was trash. Sayu worked wonders with the toggles, but you can only do so much with them. Her new model has not quite god-tier rigging, but so much better that it's not even comparable.

Niji and Holo both go hard on the artwork, but then cheap out on the rigging, and it shows. It makes sense since brand loyalty opens doors for their talent and they need good recognizable artwork to put on merch more than they need to go the extra mile for their streamers, but it's still a thing.

>>69452236
Just streaming as far as we know

>>69438078
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>>69447758
Zaion has the bratty friend in high school vibes. I would love to have had someone like that. Instead I got to be alone my entire life and will probably suck start a shotgun.
I'm getting side tracked. Yes, Zaion's model was really good.

>>69449770
>the lord himself had a tree block her fall when she did a flip off of a 7 story building
>survived nearly getting struck by lightning
>defeated her step-dad I'm mortal combat becoming the man of the house
>terminated herself from Cover
>terrified her antis so badly when she lawyered up that one self reported and apologized to her
>made fun of an antis dick infront of 20k viewers
>Redid the Dildo Sashimi
>met with Chitose and performed Naked Dogeza to restore her honor
>defeated MikeNeko forcing Mike to flesh stream her thighs
>4 years later people still can't stop thinking about her despite only streaming once
>her sacrifice saved Cover from the Final Yab and bestowed a curse upon Nijisanji for 10 times 10000 years
>fanbase is so loyal they spent 2 years waiting for her to get a 2d model
>Guchico Papa loves her so much he waited 2 years for her to call for his aid and immediately welcomed her back into his family
>her loss caused the creation of NePoLaBo
>politely declined Ksons invitation to Vshoujo after meeting with her to ask for advice
>has a harem of beautiful menhera girls who would die for her
>a Triangle the platonic symbol of God hood and the most perfect of all shapes
>wore Gcup fake boobs around town to see what it is like to have oppai
>top level badminton player
>partially responsible for the /hlg/ schism and eventual creation of /vt/

>>69449770
H-hot!!!

>>69438078
Yes

>>69439049
This

>>69447043
big loss, that was what made Zaion model standout
the bratty loli tsundere with anger issues expression was peak

>>69455571
>>69450902
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXDdeO7y504

Mano Aloe, Sumi Ushio, Riifu Evergreen, Kiryuu Coco

>>69445347
Someone feared her.

>>69439721
>Its also super expressive in a way that doesn't rely on toggles.
Isn't that just good rigging and her also taking advantage of it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaPvDXeQOko

>>69445347
My only issue is that Sayu wasn't a good fit for the model, she's too nice and has 0 banter, you would need at minimum someone Like Chibidoki, someone that despite never swearing always tries to bite back.

She fits her new model way more, a melancholic robot (?) companion trying to do better for herself

>>69459651
Yea, her tracking was always top-notch. When people said they liked Zaion's "rigging" they were really noticing Sayu's expressive tracking moving being so good it made even the bottom-tier cardboard Niji rigging feel somewhat animate, especially in comparison to her coworkers.

>>69460795
the biggest comparison for me in this regards
is Selen model being used by Pomu, it was a completely different experience
my oshi chink eyes was nerfing her expression capabilities, pomu's white girl expressiveness showed the true potential
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW_PwaSZZLw

>>69447758
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH I WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH THIS WASHBOARD HAG LOLIBABA

>>69460455
She had great banter though. So great that Kyo privated the VOD while crying because he couldn't handle it, that pathetic bitch.

>>69439721
The blue thing under her eye looks like tears from a distance. Was that intentional?

>>69438078
Her design always reminds me of Nazuna from Yofukashi no Uta for some reason (they don't even really look that similar), then I remember neither of them has much porn of them and I get disappointed.

>>69460795

>>69444191
yandere wemi?

>>69463050
Yeah, it's inspired by commedia dell'arte costuming.

>>69438078
Doesn't she have a "male roommate"

>>69465721
yeah, me