/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Doki might be cursed because all she want to do is move on and live a quiet life

>>68893842
Me flying right beside her!

Man, fuck today my dudes. I made a big ass bowl of chili cheese fries and shit I really shouldn't be eating because I wanted to get loose with a comfy fuckin neopets stream from my oshi that has been gone for so long. Play some Infinite Wealth afterwards.

Now I'm just upset, sad, and tired. Hitting that bottle, gonna turn in early.

Fuck kurosanji and all the backstabbing motherfuckers that still ride with them.

https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1757257329945497672
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1757257329945497672
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1757257329945497672
HOLY SHIT THEY'RE STILL DOUBLING DOWN

>>68894002
All they had to do was let her graduate amicably.

Thoughts https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1757257329945497672?t=LJn3gte0PXoueShvs_7V9w&s=19

>>68894031
Try and get some rest bro we hope tomorrow is a better day.

>>68894153
>>68894169
>We investigated ourselves and found no wrong doing

>>68893842
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1757257329945497672
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1757257329945497672
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1757257329945497672
Is this all they can come up with? LMAO

>>68894153
>rigorous legal check
>A measly few hours

>>68894153
this is their 4th. what retards

>>68894153
It's quadrupling down at this point

you think doki will give me some cash when she wins the court case

>>68893842
Beautiful Blonde Princess!

>>68894153
this is more like quadrupling down at this point

>>68894153
No, this is quadrupling/quintupling down at this point.

>>68894153
>>68894169
Literally
>We have investigated ourselves and found ourselves to have done nothing wrong.

>>68894002
Hopefuly the sheer happiness of Doki's lawyer at having such an easy and big prey overflows to her and helps her overcome this shit

>>68894331
>>68894380
>>68894408
>we are bots

>>68894031
It will be ok. Believe. Doki will get through this and so will we.

>>68894309
>>68894331
>>68894380
>>68894408
that's why i said still, if it's 4 times then it's hexadexupling

>>68894153
do we have a law expert among us? what do you think?

What I want to know is, where did the RikuxGaston parody go?

Praise the Big Beautiful Doki Booba!

>>68894520
I have zero concern about Doki not getting through this on top.
I just know she's hurting right now and there's nothing I can do to help her
And I fucking hate that

OH NONONONO
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1757257329945497672

>>68894606
>among us?

>>68894606
I have watched several episodes of suits and better call saul and I can say with confidence Niji has fucked up

IT'S OVER
DOKIBIRD IS FINISHED

>>68894674
She has friends. REAL friends not this fake ass bullshit. Again. This is not December.

>>68894738
Selen DEFECATED through a SUNROOF

DOKI SEX

>>68894153
I mean it's kinda not up to them to state whether or not they've made confidentiality violations, that's for the court to decide.

>>68894153
So making the livers do it was them trying to find a loophole? That's at least twice as bad. It's like they're making it worse on purpose...

>>68894153
>>68894169
YIPPIE, THEY ADMITTED TO THROW THE LIVERS UNDER THE BUS BECAUSE SELEN WAS ONLY SUING THE COMPANY

>>68894850
Did you not read what I said lol?

>>68894668
cool art

>>68894682
>hereby declares
Who writes this shit. They sound like a Bond villain

>>68895206
I'm starting to think a fucking liver is writing this shit

I hope that her parents are comforting her right now.

>>68895206
Genuinely it was probably an ESL imitating what they heard someone say in a courtroom drama.

>>68894153
FUCK I WAS OUT FOR A SMOKE

>>68894682
NEGLIGIBLE
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>>68890250
>>68892376
>Now, if she knew they were on the edge, and had been engaged in pushing that person for months prior, and continued bullying them and that pushed them to suicide, if she knew they were on the edge, and had been engaged in pushing that person for months prior, and continued bullying them and that pushed them to suicide
according to this definition, niji doesn't seem to be at fault for her attempt here? selen has no past evidence of suicidal tendencies (and her streamer persona is one that can take a lot of abuse and banter). regardless of whether sandbagging her projects was due to incompetence or malice, a reasonable bully would at best assume she would quit, not take her life. selen wouldn't have survived in any typical american workplace where office politicking is basically necessary to get projects done.
basically the point i'm trying to make is that this isn't a systemic moral crisis we need to solve. it's not like it's some iphone factory where workers kill themselves daily and blood is on the company's hands. they just got unlucky where selen's ambition far exceeded the company's competence and selen doesn't handle failure well

>>68894188
>>68894520
Thanks bros, I believe. Times just be trying.

>>68894999
yeah I know that you personally can't do anything but she does have support and you can help by sending her dupportive comments and buying merch.

>>68894031
I just wanted a comfy Neopet stream...

>>68894682
if they are dumb enough to lie here, doki's gonna get a yacht

why do they keep doing shit? not only are they making things worse but they are also wasting resources and time.

>>68895292
>ver is a law student
poor guy...

>33 hours to review a music video
>3 hours to exonerate yourself of any wrongdoing

And like that the war begins

>>68894153
>Private legal documents with Niji legal team and Doki's legal team
>Niji shares document info with Niji Livers, breaching the agreement
>Niji says that Liver's aren't part of the agreement so it doesn't count that they shared it with them.
Are they using a ESL Telelegal service? There is no way they are this stupid.

>>68895597
And money, they kidnapped their remaining top earners to make this piece of shit video.

Reminder that she just wanted to be left alone but they had to go and do this to her.

Wait so why did she post the music video for permission review with less than 48 hours before the upload date
I feel like it's gotta be fucking obvious that no Japanese company is going to be able to turn that around in that time, especially if you post it on a weekend, especially if you post it on a holiday that'll delay responses for many of the westerners they need to verify permissions for (esp. ex-livers)
I've gotten to a point where I think Niji may have been basically right with the video, but it doesn't even fucking matter because of how badly they've missed up everything that came afterwards

>>68894002
you are actually insane if you think she is acting in a way that reflects this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7zaTpwP8DQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7zaTpwP8DQ

>>68895670
>Niji says that Liver's aren't part of the agreement so it doesn't count that they shared it with them.
The thing is I could actually kind of fucking buy this IF THEY DIDN'T SAY THIS IS THEIR REASON WHY SELEN IS WRONG
NOTHING THEY SAY MAKES FUCKING SENSE

>>68895816
finally

>>68895816
>mister tazumi, a fourth iceberg has struck the yacht.

>A Dragoon already typed up a note in 8min
I kneel

>>68895758
Yeah, it's amazing how little info there is if you isolate only what Selen has stated / wanted to say without Niji
It's fucking nothing

>>68895597
the branch can't be that big. it has to be just one incompetent nepo manager who peaked in high school

>>68895659
3 min to......? post your predictions

>>68895816
>AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE OUR INVESTORS

>>68895816
haven't watched yet but willing to bet niji screws themselves over for a 3rd time tonight

BACKTRACKING ON 'negligible' HAHAHAHAHA

>>68895816
I am not giving Nijisanji a single view. Someone repost it with streamable or something.

>>68895816
Can someone post a tldr once they finish watching

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7zaTpwP8DQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7zaTpwP8DQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7zaTpwP8DQ

>>68895816
Hey, this would have been WAY BETTER any time before today!

>>68895775
>I think Niji may have been basically right with the video
>>68895775
No, fuck you. They should be looking at projects before they're uploaded, there wasn't a deadline where it absolutely had to be posted. They fucked up and are shooting themselves in the foot repeatedly with this entire mess.

>>68896244
Don't worry, you'll be seeing a lot of it of course.

>>68895670
This is some "We promised we wouldn't tell the public. But we never said Elira Pandora wouldn't" bullshit.
!" bullshit.

Soon.

jesus fucking christ they just keep going
at this point i'm not even mad, it's like watching the british cavalry charge the lines in the crimean war
godspeed you fucking retard, into the valley of death

>>68895980
oh pipeda is an actual word kek. i thought you guys were making up sounds

>>68896651
What's incredible is that multiple people thought "yeah, this is where we win" with this shit

You guys notice the backdrop they used is black?

>>68895740
thats the worst part for sure because it makes the management look really bad.people dont want to join or support a company that puts such an iron grip on their talents when shit hits the fan while also offering fuck all in talent support.

This is war shall never stop until I see kurosanji die.

his message seems completely different from the shit elira ike and vox did

>>68895816
surprisingly, this has been the most level headed response. no more smearing.
some EN manager who hates selen was definitely responsible for all the previous responses

>>68895816
>deep bow instead of dogeza
i do not accept your apology

>>68895670
>There is no way they are this stupid.
I mean, they are corporate Japanese.

>>68895816
tl;dr "we are sorry for using the word negligible" and then more word vomit about how they are gonna treat their livers' mentally health better

>>68896199
I have finished watching and yeah, seems like it

What the fuck are these retards doing? Fire everyone responsible for these announcements

Ok, hear me out.. i think this guy gets it, because the "bullying" part feels exaggerated for me..

>>68895816
Honestly this video by Riku himself should be enough without having the elira and the gang speak in the video statement.

>>68895816
Finally a professional response, too bad you were late and the Yacht is already on the Ocean floor.

>our livers are irreplaceable, each and every one of them

>>68896332
My thoughts exactly. Whether or not I think there's any sincerity, this is at least a good statement and not a complete PR disaster. Which makes me wonder who the hell wrote this that they couldn't get to write the other statements.

>>68895775
The point is, nobody actually cares whether or not they were right about the video. Nobody even cared BEFORE it got this bad. Frankly, it's the equivalent of a parking ticket, especially now that we know that the delay was due to something as stupid as "we need you to unperson those ex-livers, they can't be in the video". They've been so horrifyingly wrong about everything else and there's nothing they can do to stop this anymore. Nobody is going to say "oh, Selen uploaded the music video without explicit permission? I guess all the crimes they committed in the process of proving it are just water under the bridge now".

stock nosediving

>>68897317
Tazumi might as well fucking fire himself then given that absolute joke of a video that just went out.

>>68896244
deep bow
apologized for english wording (just for "negligible")
finally acknowledged selen for building the niji en brand
admit to not supporting EN before fall of this year
regrets letting the situation get this bad, vow to learn and do better
deep bow

>>68896905
It is. Like, it seriously would have been a pretty decent way to follow up the initial bullshit. Then just let the lawyers handle shit behind the scenes, let everyone move on with their lives.Now it's just falling on deaf ears.

>>68896945
i'm sure if they used this video rather than the tweets statements and elira's stream everything would have died down

>>68896548
niji did this to themselves so the image isnt accurate.they pulled the lever and they willingly jumped on the train tracks.

Niji can you please stop being so retarded I want to go to bed?

If this causes Doki to postpone the Arkham Asylum stream I'm going to allahu ackbar in my single player Minecraft world.

>We are sorry we got caught

>>68895816
If they'd just put this out instead of whatever the fuck that was on Elira's channel they would have been fine. Is EN management going rogue with a hateboner or did the talents themselves put that together? Heads should roll if they don't want to dig themselves deeper.

>>68897374
Its a good PR statement that basically only confirms there's blood in the water, though. This will not stop the bleeding

>>68897344
the messaging is so conflicting that i'm 100% sure they didn't coordinate. the ceo is about to fire someone.

>>68895816
Pathetic, naked dogeza doko.

>>68897366

He wasn't even naked

>>68897366
Weren't they negligible? Fuck Niji

Total Niji Death

>>68896332
That or the only reason it's gotten this level of response is because they realize legal repercussions are an actual possibility after their little stunt in the previous hours. You know, that whole complying with the law of the country you wish to operate in thing.

>>68897366
At least they finally addressed the issue instead of trying to slander doki some more and playing blame game

>>68897703
My mind thinks they're running off of Japanese business sense and lawfare trying to crush dissent under brand loyalty but that shit doesn't fly in the west.

DOKI i kneel you re the SRONGEST idol for making this black company shit themself

>>68897366

>>68898331
according to timezones, there's no way riku signed off on the elira video

Has anyone talked about the fact that the first ones they addressed the apology were the fucking investors

>>68897630
>postpone the Arkham Asylum stream
NO PLEASE NO

What type of god did they piss off for all this to be taking place

Too bad we won't ever see the chaos going on internally. What we're seeing on the surface is surely just a fraction going on behind the scenes at this very moment.

>>68898564
Me when I lie

>>68898606
miscommunication off the roof... time to fire a lot of people

>>68898929
I'm just waiting to pop the cork on the day the branch dissolution is announced

>>68894520
omg a sleepyhead

>>68894980
She wasn't suing anyone, she wanted to move on with her life. Lawsuits aren't the only reason you have a lawyer involved in official communication, especially between parties where the trust has been broken down.

I guarantee that NijiEN's retarded management just saw the word "legal document" and went "aaaaaiiiiiieh! LEGAL? LAWYER!? AAAAAH WE'RE BEING SUED THIS WILL PROBABLY GO PUBLIC TOMORROW SOMEBODY STOP HER NOW!!!"

So when do we get the full video of management committing seppuku?

I hate Niji so much it's unreal. I feel exactly the way I did when Selen was missing, that she's dealing with an unfair situation and there's nothing more we can do to help.

>>68899029
Or Niji itself dissolution is announced

>>68899166
>and there's nothing more we can do to help.
you could always send pipe bombs and hazardous chemicals to nijis offices
in minecraft

She's getting the last laugh.

>>68899257
Will never happen. JP is stable enough without EN

>>68897753
Riku apologized that he was negligent by letting EN to operate on their own devices. It kinda confirms the rrat of poor coordination between the Niji HQ in Japan and Niji EN management.

Riku also made promise that things will change for the future, which means that someone from NijiEN management is going to walk the plank off Riku's yacht tomorrow.

It wasn't a dogeza, but I kneel for her managing to get a 45 degree apology from fucking Tazumi.

I just wanted for this to end or at least be revolved behind scenes...

>>68899500
So did doki
She was done with it
She just wanted to play fucking neopets, man

>>68899257
JP's gonna be fine. And I don't mind. I just want them pushed out of the international market for good. And I just want Doki to stream Neopets. And I don't want her to have to cry anymore.

>>68899617
>And I don't want her to have to cry anymore.
same, but I don't see that happening for a while now

>>68895816
It's actually fucking nothing

>>68894870
She should have done it in my mouth instead!

>>68895816
Can I get a tl;dr? I'm too busy winding down with moom karaoke to listen to more liars

>>68896905
it is because they are basically cannon fodder at this point

>>68899399
>someone
i would expect JP force all of NijiEN management to commit sudoku given how bad they shit the bed

>>68899723
he took back the "negligible" comment so everything is ok now :)

i just wanted to watch some fuckin neopets, why did they have to go and decide to be even more retarded.

>>68899399
Great, it's too fucking late. You let this bullshit pass on Elira's channel and ripped those barely healing wounds wide open again.

>>68899470
it's 90 degrees
go back to grade school

>>68900009
its just gonna bring her even more attention and subs in the long run

>>68898632
>sorry we got caught

>>68899561
I wanted to see if she had something else that I didn't know, like the scientology or well, neopets still being alive. Not her almost breaking down live.
Now I want blood

>>68900118
I saw a rrat that their EN PR guy is a dragoon and internally sabotaging

>>68899908
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15HTd4Um1m4

>>68896345
>there wasn't a deadline where it absolutely had to be posted
There was a deadline, but it was one that Selen created when she to post the video before review was finished. Essentially, SHE was the one creating the rush by saying "do this within 2 days or I post this video without permissions." It's fine to create deadlines for collaborators on a project, but you can't do so in a way that doesn't leave them time to do their part and then get upset when they don't meet your unreasonable timeframe.
>>68897398
I mean, I care if all the "bullying" that emerges is livers messaging Selen asking her why she chose to post that dramatic tweet implying the vid wouldn't come back and asking dragoons to reupload the vid. Niji's initial statement said that Selen claimed she "was being harassed by other affiliated livers due to mismanagement, etc.," so it does seem like the behavior she labeled as abuse came in response to management's behavior here. If that's the case, I'm not sure that the livers or any of the rrats about "le clique" have any validity-- it's just a story of an already-stressed, already-mentally-ill employee violating company policy and then trying to commit suicide when she was called on it, putting the company in a huge PR hole way out of proportion with what they did and freaking them the fuck out into an incoherent response. If that's the case, I'd continue to support Doki but I'd also continue to support specific livers in EN. Obviously waiting until we hear Doki's statement and response before I make any decisions

>>68899908
THANK YOU
I ALMOST MISSED THIS BECAUSE I'M SUCH A DRAMANIGGER

>>68898632
letting everyone know who is really important in their eyes

bros I thought we were done I thought we were going to watch Doki just play some Neopets and I was going to fap to her lewds tonight but I did not expect it to go this far

>>68900219
if selen had allies in company staff, it would've never got so bad

>>68900305
We all did
Make sure you fap to her lewds still in solidarity

The video has more likes than views...

Chumbud here, you have my trident.

Takodachi here, you have my cookie.

>>68900418
The PR thing is a rrat but I firmly believe she has someone on the inside feeding her info. Probably a liver who is her friend like Rosemi

>>68900488
Views get staggered on newly uploaded videos, that part's normal.

Neopet stream...

>>68899908
mooms karaoke is getting me thru the evening after doki had to end stream early

>>68900602
from how she acted in the off collab, i don't think she's actually close with anyone.

>>68900488
youtube bug, doesn't necessarily mean botting, yt is just a doggshit website

>>68900644
she was so excited...

>>68900279
Investors literally are the most important thing from a publicly traded corporation's perspective. This isn't even a Niji thing, all of the other corpos are the same way.

>>68898632
Who do you think the apology is for?

>>68900751
they did her a favor. neopets sucks. even apex streams would be better.

>>68900542
>>68900600
Thanks, Bros!

>"Why did you force me to do this? I just wanted to play video games"
>Dokibird standing in front of nijisanji en's elira pendora, knife in hand.

The fact that they basically put out three written statements back to back should say enough about just how divided they are internally.

While I think things will be fine (because Kurosanji is burning themselves more than doing anything effective), I still worry a lot about my oshi's mental state
Please don't let the stress get to you. Also, please stay with us.. we love you.

>>68900602
I think that that could be true, too. It's either Rosemi, Vivi, or Finana. It might even be all three of them.

>>68900953
Fuck off, Elira

>>68900953
ogey

>>68901173
she'll be fine
as long as she has family and support by her side, she'll keep moving forward

I wish everyone that simps for corpos a huge retrograde ejaculation that bruises their bladder and that it takes the next three months for it to heal

SURELY they're not retarded enough to escalate this into an international labor dispute

Thoughts
>>68899664
>>68899892

>>68901173
She has tons of friends who know she's suffering now and won't let her fall again
But yes, she's in pain right now
Fuck niji

>>68901173
>I still worry a lot about my oshi's mental state
same, I cope by telling myself she'll probably earn lots but it's quite possible the money won't help her feel better
she certainly wasn't poor at niji and that didn't stop her from making an attempt

>>68900953
Go away!

>>68900602
>>68901177
She just has a good lawyer. Those can smell blood like a shark, and lay their traps. Niji's retardation did the rest

Imagine if they released something like this way earlier and never let whoever is handling the announcements and twitter account talk out of their asses

>>68901312
>second one
KEK

i dont know how many of you actually played neopets back in the day. i did. it sucks. any time i spent money on the neopet stock market, i like money just like Anycolor investors today.

>>68901315
If it get on the news it might become one

anyone excited that when this goes to court, an entire jury will need to learn what vtubers are and what petty drama we deal with all day long?

>>68901383
who will win? one gamer girl with an out-of-pocket lawyer or a miltimillion dollar international corporation

https://x.com/BySovereign/status/1757268324541706385?s=20

>>68901123
one of them with the triple contradiction

>>68901420
>>68901343

>>68901173
she has friends and a good team

Imagine if this incident gets big enough that corpos just started phasing out hiring western talent all together. Not saying they'd fire all their western talent, but they could just start hiring Japanese vtubers that speak in cute broken English. Eventually after all the current crop of western vtubers graduate, there will only be cute Japanese vtubers left that are loyal to Japanese corporate culture.

>>68901508
i kneel

Regardless of anything else that comes out, timing the statements to come out the exact minute her first content stream back as Doki started already proves an absolutely unforgivably unprofessional level of spite as far as I'm concerned.

And even if you really needed to get other livers involved, it would have been so easy to just release a noncommittal "we think some of what Selen said was wrong as well, let's just move on", anyone who needs to can quietly unfollow PLs and dramatards can spend a week speculating on why before dying of hunger, everything gets taken care of in private. Just look at the difference with how Rushia's termination was handled. Japanese companies surely have certain common structural issues with how management works, but this loud and unprofessional public airing of dirty laundry isn't some JP versus EN thing, it's a Niji specific thing.

>>68901508
Mr. Man I kneel

>>68900837
That almost makes sense if you're a retard. Investors don't give a fuck about your babbling apology, they want their fucking money, and if you're bleeding money because you picked a fight with one of your talents you go fucking apologise to that talent and mend that fucking bridge and get that fucking money.

It's incomprehensibly stupid to not start with just a simple acknowledgement that you, the CEO, didn't want things to turn out this way and are hoping for a more positive path forward (you know, putting out the fucking fire burning your house down before apologising to the tenants for setting it on fire in the first place?!)

I have no fucking clue why clowns are acting like this was somehow professional or anything of the sort, it was a shambolic mess that shows the kid has no fucking clue what he's doing or where to even find the people who can actually tell him.

>>68901312
>>68901593
gem

>>68901639
>that corpos
That'll never happen.

>>68901422
i liked that stock market one as well
also one that was in a dungeon, i think? and kinda played like dangerous dave

>>68901508
Is this what a manager who isn't a complete fucking retard looks like?

>>68901593
Pure exSELENce

>>68901508
Mr. Man stumbled at the beginning but he's becoming based

>>68901508
Get 'em Mr Man

>>68901639
Hololive will never do that. And if niji did, it would just open up the field for others to employ them instead and take share.

>>68901508

>>68901593
heh

>>68900039
>let this bullshit pass on Elira's channel
About that, don't they have an official company channel for shit like this? Why the fuck is it attached to any one streamer's channel? Now it's a permanent stain on her vods.

>>68901173
On a positive note, the fact that she was prepared for this will help, she and her lawyer had clearly talked about it before hand and were ready, but it's still atrocious to do this right when she was streaming. There's no way that's an accident, they knew.

Dokidudes, I have come from the catalog to say that I am tremendously impressed with the professionalism exhibited by someone who has been undergoing such horseshit. Her mental resilience is incredible. You've got quite the oshi, and she's gonna have the last /HAHA/ by the end. Stay strong, stay based.
t. Holofag

>>68901508
MR MANN I KNEEL

>>68901173
Her parents are living with her again. They won't let anything bad happen to her again. Her parents are probably comforting her right now.

>>68901173
hoping she'll be fine now that she can freely tell other people shit she wasn't allowed to before. doesn't have to bottle it up anymore. she also looks prepared, goes to show how awful niji actually is.

>>68901717
>That almost makes sense if you're a retard.
So, what, 99.999% of people watching or involved in this clusterfuck?

>>68901948
Yes. They probably did it as tactics, to destabilize her and cause her to slip and say shit on stream. Dirty

>>68901970
> and she's gonna have the last /HAHA/ by the end.
I really hope, I'm getting really anxious

>>68901508
giga chad energy

Talk about crashing the plane, ehy?
https://youtu.be/Zouyo57d4dk?si=MqN5htu_rHZ4KZE9

>>68901780
no this is what a manager who had to deal with XQC already has learned

>>68901688
>timing the statements to come out the exact minute her first content stream back as Doki started
That was such vicious harassment that I am not sure anyone, not even the most desperate newcomers, will be willing to join them anymore. They just killed their future regardless of any legal issue

>>68901688
Someone in that company is out to ruin Doki's image, I can't think of any other plausible reason to run the smear campaign like that when there's literally the Rushia precedent to save your company face despite losing a big talent.

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
https://youtu.be/0LwcvjNJTuM?si=JUUV9dmccvSXj_uj&t=284

>>68901934
because they are precisely throwing the organs under the bus

>>68901970
Holofags used to laugh at us, but now nobody's laughing....

Genuinely baffled that they released 2-3 different statements that all said different things somehow, EN management needs to be fired if they're responsible or even some of the streamers involved in whatever the fuck that was on Elira's channel.

>>68902075
almost 500k followers on youtube already.

shes gonna be fine.

>>68902075
>I'm getting really anxious
Why? If they had anything more than 'she didn't have permission to upload her cover' they'd have shot her with it by now.

I like the JP response. Truly makes me wonder if the EN management is totally off-sync from its JP parent.

>>68902066
on niji's side, yeah

>>68901970
Thanks for the support, we will need it.

>>68902162
Holofag here, I've always liked you guys

>>68902162
We'll be laughing WITH you when this is over. Your bird has proven herself to be wonderful. and I really liked her streams with my owlshi, even if I think FPS fucking suck

>>68902162
Nah we're definitely laughing
>at nijisanji

Updated schedule

>>68899166
The thing to take comfort in is that Doki has her fucking shit together. I was extremely worried about her, but having only been a clip watcher I didn't expect she would come back swinging so hard. Every single statement she has made is lawyer reviewed, every single time that Niji has escalated she has already had a pre-written statement JUST IN CASE IT HAPPENED. Niji is gonna fucking burn

Why couldn't they just shut up and leave her alone?

>>68902109
jesus christ that guy must be a buddha

How is he going to win?

>>68901508
Yeah that's what I was saying. IF the documents were forced to become public by some sort of legal precedent that does NOT mean that you can't redact information to protect those involved. The only people that should and/or need to see the documents in their entirety are legal counsel.

>>68902162
I just hate Nijisanji and these recent events have only solidified my stance even more.

>>68902451
by managing what will be the biggest vtuber of 2024

>>68902162
It was only the faggot faggots, which unfortunately corpo fanbases have a high densiity of with tribalism shit

>>68902208
The only thing that rubs me in the wrong way was the Elira stream... its like, why?
The retard who authorized that should be fired for exposing other Nijis to the hatemob even if they just slandered Selen
Every week, the EN management proves me wrong about their level of mediocrity

>>68902395
I can't wait for the next six black screen announcement videos!

>>68901508
This got me thinking. Doesn't it just make the idiots that were crying in the stunt video about getting doxxed look even worse for sharing NDA information among themselves.
Crying about potential confidential information, while sharing the same subject matter belonging to someone else among themselves. It just comes across as projecting what they were planning to do, or were in the act of doing.

>>68901970
Thank you holobro, the baubaus are cute and comforting me some during this shit...

>>68901948
>>68902068
seems like bullying from nijisanji en management and a handful of livers. crazy to do exactly what you're accused of doing to defend yourself

>>68901688
They had only one job. All they had to say was
>professional differences
that's it. That's all it ever was. This shit show is all their making.

>>68902405
A good lawyer helps in that regard. It's why professionals say that EVERYONE should have a lawyer if you can afford it for a "just in case" scenario.

>>68901512
Whichever one shoots themself the least.

>>68901173
She's fighting harder than anyone. She didn't cry a single tear on stream, while I, a person with no real stake at all, think I goddamn near had a panic attack when I found out what was going on. I have to imagine that she must feel invigorated in some way.

>>68895384
I wasn't specifically saying the latter was what Niji did to her, but that is the degree to which I could consider someone culpable to a high degree for a suicide based on a single bad encounter. Kind of like the difference between 1st and 2nd degree murder.
It's also a manner in which I would diminish the fault that I feel many other individual within the company hold - most likely it was a lot of small things over time that led to her attempting to take her own life, the culmination of which was a passion project being shot dead the moment it was released. There doesn't have to be a singular bad actor that was out to destroy her life to generate a miserable, hostile work environment.

Will they finally fix whole NijiEN's management thanks to Selen?

>>68902644
>mediocrity
mediocre doesn't shit the bed this hard
you have to be amazingly incompetent to cause this much damage

Hey, I just want to say that I'm literally kneeling for your oshi rn

Godspeed you magnificent bastards

>>68902793
If by fix you mean fire and absorb the branch, yeah probably

I'm so sad, kuro bastards

>>68902793
What does it matter? The branch is dead in the West.

knowing sovereign is on the team is a big relief... this isn't his first rodeo

>>68902902
Join us

>>68902662
Good choice, I also recommend the gem princess (my own oshi) if you like solid gameplay and cute laughs.

>>68901970
Thanks, Holobro!

>>68902925
>couldn't even play for 10 minutes before the news dropped and she had to stop
Fucking sad

https://twitter.com/RazielWarmonic/status/1757270087856205984
. . .

>>68902162
>>68902594
Most people who hate on Nijisanji content in general simply have issues with the company, rarely individual talents. I will never forgive them for failing so many people long before they failed EN. Practically banning EN from interacting with JP was the last straw.
t. knower

I don't even watch Nijisanji and I'm sorry for your oshi but this is the funniest shit I've ever seen

>>68902990
I'm hearing he managed xqc? How tf did she get someone like him on board?

Well now that they shot themselves and Doki won...
Where can I find her schedule? I wish the Neopets stream didn't have to end like that. I was looking forward to it, I even dreamed of watching one of her streams before I woke up.

>>68903092
I don't like Nijisanjji because of the people they hired, the shit management is secondary

>>68902654
It's entirely possible they didn't know they weren't supposed to be seeing the info.
It's also worth mentioning that the statement that the livers were only shown parts of it means they don't know the full scope of the document. They saw what management wanted them to see.
I'm not saying that excuses them, just that we don't know what's going on on their end either.

>>68903174
didn't he work for niji for a bit and she kept in contact with him after he left?

Man this is some Persona 5 shit. A girl LARPing as a thief mind breaking a CEO of a massive corporation into making a public apology.

A friend of my owlshi is a friend in my eyes.
To all dragoons, good luck.

>>68903205
on her twitter here https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1756948500728676618

>>68903174
He managed xqc and another manager he brought in currently manages ludwig

>>68902284
It is. Tazumi kinda confirmed that in his statement, in a roundabout way.

>>68902799
The fact that the fucking mongoloid EN managers decided to take the initiative to make the situation worse than we thought it could possibly get, creating a massive legal problem for the Japanese corporation as a whole, makes me believe that branch graduation is inevitable if not imminent. Being regularly shitty is one thing, they would have been allowed to keep limping on for a while if they hadn't posted that, but this is to make themselves a cancerous tumor on the corporation as a whole.

>>68903256
BRAVO ATLUS

>>68903256
While the corporation is burning down

>>68903174
he's the xset manager. got fired from xqc job

As if more confirmation was needed
https://twitter.com/vgumihoe/status/1757272804188446877
THE RRATS

>>68902162
hoomins are on your team
anyone who's a friend of mumei is a friend to us

I will miss the Doki threads. It's a lot of meme fun and the solidarity is always great to see, but when all the lies, mistakes, and frauds that Doki has perpetrated come to light it will all collapse.

Hero's journey.

>>68903272
Thanks bro.

>>68902925
I have been drinking for three hours now. I pray i will not wake up tomorrow. Ha hah, like chuuba, like fan...

>>68903256
Idk if even Joker could change this company

>>68903438
This is ABSOLUTE confirmation that livers did it. Use this to shut up anyone who still claims it was a "mistake" because somehow a lot of people say so

>>68903438
gumi needs to stfu though

>>68903439
This dude is a Japanese soldier fighting on in 1972

>>68903438
Who

>>68902793
In an ideal world you're either getting JP corporate doing some internal cleaning and rectifying whatever the fuck allowed this mess to happen, or a scorched earth campaign over the next week.
Assuming JP is actually just incompetent and not so much malicious, and somehow let their EN dog off leash and expect it to self govern. Which it failed to do.
Or it's all just damage control, take your pick.

ELLIRA GOT COMUNNITY NOTED HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>68896905
They should have led with that and shut the fuck up for a bit, but no...

I never had an oshi per se, though I watched Selen. But I think this shit seals the deal for me. I'll even watch the APEX streams now.

>>68901345
>same, I cope by telling myself she'll probably earn lots but it's quite possible the money won't help her feel better
These happenings have kind of given me the sense that she doesn't have a healthy relationship with the success she's earned. Spending literally all of her profit last year on projects seems like she feels indebted to her audience / collaborators to an unreasonable degree. It makes me worry what she's going to do with what she's earning now. Hopefully that's just a bad read.

>>68903566
OG doki friend. collabed with selen a few times

LOL

>>68903771
it is better this way

>>68903706
who decides to put up these notes?

>>68903863
absolute shit reason to pick an oshi

>>68904005
The community.

Become Unnegligible.

>>68903863
great reason to pick and oshi

let the fire of vengeance and justice run through your veins, you're a Dragoon now.

So are you ready for her to be fired because she liked something she shouldn't've

>>68904005
they're community notes anon, clue is in the name

mooms need to sing more soulful songs. like actual SOUL, not SOVL

>>68904177
She's praying for it

Dragoons, not ever have I been so proud to be one of you till' this very day. Bismillah, we will win.

>>68904177
BASED FLIP WOMAN

>>68904102
Who is "the community" and how does a community note appear? Is it democratic?

>>68904177
A LA VERGAAAAAA

QUE HACES GALLINA

>>68903439
the statement alone was so bad it wouldn't even matter at this point

>>68903706
>>68903919
Get cum noted you filthy fucking backstabbing rat, and may you never find success again.

>>68904177
that tiny icon is scarle right?

>>68904177
IF real she probably wants out as soon as possible

>>68904276
I don't actually have a twitter. I assume there's a tab when you open a tweet.

>>68904404
Yep

>>68904177
That HAS to be fake. Or an accident. Surely she meant to click the thumbs down?

>>68904193
hooman...

>>68904291
This. The most they could do at this point is drag her down with them, no way can they turn it around.

>>68904177
*sighs*

>>68904276
If your note gets enough "likes" it becomes public

What is Doki's favorite diaper

>>68904494
>>68904593

>>68904593
By god... its real

>>68903272
Blessed

>>68904785
>>68904812
WHAT THE FUCK

>>68904828
>selen's room
>keep out!
>especially elira
KEK

>>68902654
even better/worse is that vox said he read through the documents thoroughly

>>68903863
Nice! Her solo Apex streams are actually really comfy and chill! It's basically like watching a zatsudan with Apex gameplay running in the background!

>>68904177
Scarle... no seas pelotuda...

>>68904812
wasn't this one of the reasons why zaion was fired? liking slandering comments? is scarle in danger?

>>68904785
>>68904812
Nijishills on suicide watch.

>>68904828

>>68904177
>>68904785
>>68904812
Not surprised, but when Sayu made her first or second yt stream after she got fucked, Scarle's PL posted her chat and Sayu directly acknowledged it, saying she's a wonderful person.

Another holofag here. I wish the best for Doki and all of you. I remember tuning into Selen a bit and always found her entertaining. I wish she was in the Lethal Company collab with my oshi; it would've been a lot of fun.
>>68904177
Based Scarle "Pancho Villa" Yonaguni.

>>68904177
what VOD of this is hers?

>>68904177
Good luck, Scarle!

>>68904828
>especially Elira
This aged VERY well.

>>68903606
>Assuming JP is actually just incompetent and not so much malicious, and somehow let their EN dog off leash and expect it to self govern.
Even if it's just damage control, this is probably the best path forward for Niji as a brand. Throw the EN Management under the bus as hard as fucking possible publicly while giving them generous severance packages tied to strict NDAs, apologize to shareholders, settle with Doki for a relatively extravagant sum to keep it quiet, make a big stink about how the new management structure is different. No liver ever mentions this again.

>>68905133
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1GH8hkxQ8w

Still there

>>68903919
The only thing it's missing is
>Exhibit A

>>68904828
Elira... you didn't have to go this far for the sake of the kayfabe...

>>68904667
KEK

>>68904276
It's basically mob rule desu

So do you think she going to talk once she is out or is did she already telling Doki about what she know

>>68905350
it's possible her visa depends on remaining employed by niji
it's also possible they've straight up taken her passport

>>68902902
Thanks, Bro!

>>68905513
>it's also possible they've straight up taken her passport
I can't believe they'd... okay, but... yeah they totally would. Fucking Hell.

So do you think she going to talk once she is out or did she already tell Doki about what she know

>>68905014
termination at least lets her through the graduation line

worst case scenario is this case goes to a public court, and not only doki but all the involved niji livers end up essentially getting doxed

>>68905512
>>68905657
shut the fuck up retard we heard you the first time

>>68905513
>inb4 Elira, Vox and Ike are missing fingers.

>>68905269
fuck isreal

>>68905730
>doki tries to avoid it in every way possible
>Niji: WE ARE TOTALLY PROTECTING OUR LIVERS

>>68905513
That's like ridiculously evil but I don't even put it past them

>>68904177
Should I subscribe to her now?

>>68904785
it keeps going...
i wonder when i'll finally have some breathing room to sleep

>>68905513
mate this is human trafficking ring tier

>>68905730
I mean Doki already posted her face and first name on twitter before

Love from /doog/. Fuck Anycolor.

>>68905513
Decent point, simply being out a job is one thing but losing your visa is another. Elira is on thin ice, but Vox and Ike don't live abroad, do they?

This reminds me of the multiple times I called out Selen leaving discord calls or games like Minecraft the second Elira logged in.
And you called me a schizo

>>68905951

>>68905951
thank you doog very cool

>>68905993
THIS IS NOT A DRILL. ALL RRATS ARE CURRENTLY REAL. DO NOT DISMISS RRATS. Immediately dig up all your old rrats, they are more likely to be real today than any other day. REPEAT, THIS IS NOT A DRILL. ALL RRATS ARE CURRENTLY REAL. DO NOT DISMISS RRATS.

>>68906024
Kek

>>68905951
Thanks, Dogo Bro!

>>68905513
How far is Kusocolor's HQ from the Canadian embassy?

>>68905979
Having a work visa attached to a job is pretty normal. US companies exploit it to abuse their employees as well. Actually going on a public suicide assistance campaign is strictly a Japanese thing.

sending love from /gem/, wishing the best for your oshi

>>68906148

>>68906024
KEK

>>68905951
Go to sleep you fucking cute god damn good doggy

>>68906146
Always have been.

>>68906265
Thanks, Pebble Bro!

>>68906372
kek

>>68906265
I loved your oshi Elden Ring and DMC streams!

>>68905513
I mean at that point if Elira could prove she had her passport taken couldn't she literally sink the companies reputation and just relay on her fans to fund her trip back home?

>visa
Elira is a H1-Bjeet?

>>68906372
FUCKING KEK

>>68906279
>THE FAULT LIES WITH YOU, SELEN!

sending love from /uuu/ and /vrex/

bros I can't believe this stupid shit took up my whole night but I'll admit I've been having the time of my life the last few hours laughing at Niji shooting itself in the foot again and again

>>68904177
if she becomes indie again for this i'll watch and sub to her

And to reiterate

>>68905269
Holy shit it is real... This stream ended what, 18ish hours ago? Dude rolls up and hits the Kurosanji an hour ago and of all comments on the video THAT'S the one she hearts?

Maybe those DMs weren't all faked after all?

>>68906464
A passport is the property of your country, not you - withholding someone's passport is something you take to your fucking embassy, not just your fans.

>>68906699
I think she only made themed drinks before getting into Niji

>>68906464
anon if you lose your visa you don't fund a trip back home, you get thrown in the back of the first available plane and if they're feeling extra nice they'll even let you take a change of clothes

bake will be as it has been, no idea if we're still under the tack from the other day

>>68906697
same
I can't sleep cause I know something else that's stupid as fuck is coming

>>68906652

so what anyways is the clique and why was it suspected in the first place that they were bullies, i'm honestly an outsider and only really gave doki a chance after all this

>>68906743
every liver is trying to figure out how to get out of this sinking ship alive. subtle signaling that she's one of the good ones?

>>68906888
Some of the most hated livers on this board were all nepo hires from Elira. It's known as "the clique"

>>68906949
>"subtle"

>>68906652
Didn't you go to sleep, or are there 2 sapknights

>>68906464
that's straight up visa slavery, and for as fucking retarded as all of this shit is, i really don't think they could possibly be that psychopathic.

>>68906372
KEK

>>68906993
is that true or is it all rrats?