/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Feelin' good.

ROCK SOUP LOVE

>>55065743
This is what true happiness looks like

I love my rock

>>55065743

RAPE IN THE LAKE! RAPE IN THE LAKE!

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/110433628

>>55066255
*vine boom*

FLOWER

>>55065743
PEBBLEPHILE ANTHEM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8B_a0ZHNj8

Latency sucks

Post your pebbles

>>55066836

>>55066677
I wonder what the first Advent group meme will be.

>I have a little bit of latency on my side
Schizo roommate anon from the last general, I know your here, just take the L

>>55067013
Cute

AAAAAAA NERISSA FORCED BIJOU TO WEAR CHILDRENS' CLOTHES AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>55066871
Magicpebbles, is this good?
t. yugipebble

THIS WOMAN IS A PREDATOR, WE MUST PROTECT BIJOU

Alright, that was very cute.

they're literally girlfriends wtf

>>55066836

Rissa bought Biboo cute girly clothes and made her do a fashion show for her. This damn hag.

>>55067137
My wife's gf is so cool

>>55066911

God Imagine Bijou in cute frilly clothes

Bijou literally just bullied a nerdy kid and took everything from him while laughing???

>>55067344
She's perfect...

>>55067276

Its like having two siblings together. Bijou a cute!

>>55067123
Not really, no. For one, you give it to your opponent on their turn. Then your opponent gets to buff their creatures on their turn. Also it's 5 colors which makes it difficult to cast, and there are much stronger 5c Commanders/5c cards in general.
There is a meme deck that uses that card+all Changelings (which have All Types so Karona will always buff them no matter what your opponent chooses) but it's more of a jank petdeck than competitively viable.

As for the token, I'm not sure if it's created by a viable card or not, I don't remember what makes Prisms.

>>55067344
Good.

GRAB HIS BALL BIJOU

>>55067402
I miss her so much. I will never let go.

>>55067123
>>55067540
just looked up what makes Prisms, and it's overcosted shit.
even if you cheat it out, it's too expensive for what it does, which is just mana fixing which other cards do much cheaper and less clunkier.

>>55067540
I love that other magicautist were also brainstorming what commander to make a Bijou alter of. Literally sat for 30 minutes today thinking about what colors she fits into.

>>55067123
I love that there are yugipebbles here
t. another yugipebble

>>55067123
Unfortunately no, both Karona and the sole prism-generating card aren't stellar. But it's the best fit.
https://scryfall.com/card/scg/138/karona-false-god
https://scryfall.com/card/vis/143/diamond-kaleidoscope

time left until nerissa eat out the cunny rock?

>>55067980
I wonder why there's an unusual amount of card game fans here in general

>>55068073
They already off-collabed...

>>55068073
It happened off stream, sorry anon

what a ksgk lmao

>>55068073
already happened

>>55068105
Idk i just started spamming gemknights in her general when advent were announced because i found it funny

>>55068262
It was an accident.

>>55067876
wanna see the rest

>I don't care, you can let it out, if you ever feel it just let it out

Cute gemmy

>>55068555
>wanna see the rest
hell yeah

>Leekspin
>Copyright
Isn't Hatsune Miku freeuse though?

>>55068555

>>55068622
It's not even Hatsune Miku originally, and I don't think a Finnish folk song is copyrighted.

>>55068659

>>55068105
>Card games attract a higher % of autists then pretty much any hobby
>Bijou is a very cute autist that others can relate to.
>/Vt attracts a massive amount of autists itself
Vin Diagram center= this general

>>55068812

>>55068545
I love this bratty rock.

Shitskin spotted

>>55068926
>Kobo immediately dies from a state-based action
kobochama...

Im late to the stream, anything fun happened?

>>55069159
yes.

>>55069159
yes, GEX was confirmed

>>55069127
The card that makes that token also buffs it

Did anyone make any clips/soundpost of the phasmo sounds?

>>55069159
Bijou told us Nerissa bought her cute girly clothes and made her do a little fashion show for her.

Delightfully devilish, Bijou

>>55069345
God, that's hot.

>>55069271
>if you destroy the card that makes Kobo, every Kobo immediately dies as a state-based action
kobochama...

>It's all ogre now
I haven't heard that in a while

Good night bros, gotta go

>>55069586
Goodnight

>>55069586
Same

>>55069345
That's adorable, cover made some great hires. their chemestry is unmatched in EN.

this thread died

>>55069879
And I killed it.

>>55069586
good night fellow pebble

>>55069879
This collab is kinda boring outside of the "they fuck" memery. The Phasmo stream was better.

>>55068555
Had to go run and take a picture to show you my Fauna Tuvasa alter. Cool cards anon!

>>55069879
its a boring stream

>>55069159
yeah, this erotic bratt made me cum two times and Im still hard

>>55065743
Love me some rock

>>55070144
rock hard?

>>55070191
give Nerissa some google eyes too

>>55066871
Here's an alternate, more useful Bijou token

>>55069879
Not much going on in the collab. Bijou's solo stream had her screaming and stuff. This one is more chill.

>>55070286
On the nipples?

My coffee energy spike has resided and i am now back to my food coma therefore my posting dipped

How much art of Bijou with a huge ribbon will there be come tomorrow?

>>55070191

>>55070286
But she isn't a pet rock
ogey

>>55070007
That rock? Me

>>55070755
Why the yaranaika-like face?

The mental image of Bijou running away with a bra before trying to climb over a fence is...

Man this stream is giving me so many 144p quality pics.

>>55071138
UOOOOOOOOHHHHHH MSGK STEALING HER MOM'S BRA AND MAKEUP TO TRY AND LOOK LIKE AN ADULT

They're cute together, but this game is w/e

They really are like sisters

>>55071244

>>55071376
I hope they do something like phasmo

>>55071608
>Nerissa curses
>Bijou says "beep"
Fucking cute lmao

BEEPboo

So i guess this kills the hope for solo horror games streams rights

If Bijou dedicates some time every week for playing games with pebbles (ideally games without barriers to entry like 14) i will be a very happy pebble.
I'll be satisfied long as she's happy playing whatever she likes. I watch for her not the game.

>>55072244
Who knows. I think she is hamming it up and she will play something that piques her interest.

That Phasmo stream had a lot of good moments.

>>55072452
Like Smash, Mario Kart, etc.?

this collab is boring because this is like 25% of bijou's actual energy and willingness to speak, nerissa just didn't want to interact with bijou's full-self

hope we get oyakodon fanart from this stream

>>55072452
every week might be a little much but at least once every 2-4 weeks would definitely be nice

>>55072705
Maybe they just need more time on stream together.

>>55072705
It's boring because the game sucks and is drawing too much of their attention away from each other and neither of them is interacting with chat at all.

>>55072590
Super Smash Kart 51 with the bromies!

>>55072834
maybe but nerissa's "yeah uh huh i'm gonna keep focusing on this dumb streamer bait game instead of interacting with what you just said* is fucking terrible.

ogey

>>55072590
While I have my preferences I think bijou would be best served by going through a wide range of easily accessible games. So not just those limited to nintendo or require specific skillset or time investment.
A cute holo gaming chuuba playing with me and the other pebbles regularly will remind me life is worth living.

OGEY

>Ogey
Rissa, pls.

>>55072939
Bijou will really benefit from some "and then" energy from someone like Fauna

>>55072889
I miss her

>>55073199
she'll return someday
I belieb

flower

they just don't work well together (yet). this game also sucks. I'm not sure nerissa could even handle bijou at 100%, she didn't want to when this started

what happened to the earlier stream, technical difficulties?

>>55072870
This. The stream is boring because the game is supposed to be a shitty game made to keep the viewer's attention while you have a zatsudan on top of it. It's not made to be taken seriously, it's supposed to just be a pretence to have a stream and somehow they've been doing exactly the opposite.
They are just paying attention to the game and taking it seriously, resulting in a pretty boring stream with no interaction between the two. I want to see banter, fun, back and forth, jokes, that kind of thing.

>>55073984
First try of the collab lagged like motherbeeper for some reason.

>>55073984
It was lagging hard

>>55073984
Yeah, YouTube was being retarded for some reason.

ogey

>>55074122
nerissa is taking the game too seriously and she already dismissed wanting to interact with bijou too much at the start. (rock princess has way too much energy for her)

>>55073111
Indeed it is. Considering Nintendo requires payment to play online, there are probably better PC games out there.

I wanna just call her beej

>>55074246
(r)rat

Biboo has Hades on her switch, hopefully she can do a stream of it.
What Heat do you think she's gotten up to? My guess is 12

>>55074659
That's pretty cute actually.

>>55074273
It's weird considering yesterday's One Hand Clapping stream or Unpacking stream wasn't bad at all. I dunno why she's focusing so much on the game here.

>>55074910
because she's mentally checked out from chatting with bijou for the most part.

>>55074910
she can only microdose rocks

>>55074910
Puzzle games suck for collabs because it's hard to focus on both the puzzles and interacting with the other person.

>>55074904
Does...she need those ground down before the grow too big?

>>55073904
I dont actually know what Koseki means

>>55074910
She can't focus too much on Bijou otherwise she might accidentally start yelling about how badly she wants to bury her tongue in Bijou's little cave

Half the time they cause problems for themselves because they refuse to leave the NPCs alone. Makes it a little frustrating.

>>55075327
Its JP for jewel.
Kira Kira Koseki is JP for sparkling jewel in a catchy jingle.

>>55075332
>bury her tongue in Bijou's little cave
Fuck that's hot

>>55074910
I think the problem is that she's focused on trying to clear the game and because of how the game is. Unpacking had zero effort required so it was basically just zatsu all through. OHC took a little effort so her attention was more divided that time. This game has all these tasks requiring coordination and timing to pull off which is completely unlike the other two games, so her faculties are exhausted trying to actually play this time.
I guess she really hasn't got the multitasking part down yet.

>>55075327
it means Koseki Bijou's family name

>>55074910
I think it's just too early to expect really good banter
they're too nervous about saying something wrong to let the conversation flow naturally

>>55075359
>because they refuse to leave the NPCs alone
They have been ignoring the chat, though?

>>55075524
>they're too nervous about saying something wrong to let the conversation flow naturally

rissa gasped after bijou started saying some embarrassing shit right at the start. I think bijou is ready but nerissa isn't

>>55075627
So much for having no shame...

>Finally start talking about non-game stuff
>Nerissa snaps back to game mode
disappointing...

Don't worry bros. They have to go through an idol journey for the good bants later on. Starting off at the bottom, but they'll get there.

How many of you are posting same doomer shit in both /gem/ and /ope/?

The ability to chat and banter is a high level skill. Need xp and to level up.

>>55075877
she's mentally checked out bijou several times already.

>>55076070
I doompost in one thread and simultaneously hopepost in the other

>>55076061
they could start with SOME banter, jfc

>>55076168
What the fuck is that ugly faggot? Only cute girls ITT.

>>55076341
sh-shioriiiii~n...

>>55076070
I've never been there. Not really interested.

>>55076070
I post in all the generals except shiori's one because I hate her

why does she have a delay?

>>55076070
I can't shitpost and play games at the same time or I probably would be in both right now.

>>55076543
Rock processing speed

>>55076070
I only stick to this place and Holo global.

>>55076543

They're probably playing over the steam local coop thing.

>>55076168
damn, based

I will sufferwatch this for my gem princess' sake

>>55066836

>>55066836
Not mine, but i saw this one on twitter

>>55066836
I do that only in my onlyfans.

how has the stream been?

>>55077256
Kinda meh.

ok I may be retarded but bijou sounds ALOT like gura especially on high notes. Could they have hired her in case gura decided to step down?

>>55077256

Not great, Nerissa keeps shutting bibou down any time she tries to make the conversation not related to the shitty game.

>>55077256
Solo rock is better at this point.

>>55077346
You're retarded

Well they did it.

>>55077256
Its aight

>"Well Bijou it's been 126 minutes..."

>>55077256
a bit rough around the edges, but they'll get better at it

>>55077256
Not the best, not Bijou's fault but i'm sure with some time that they'll get better.

FINALLY SOME GOOD FUCKING BANTER!

How many licks does it take to dissolve Bijou's shoes?

>Nerissa's wings are on her butt
>"Butt food"
heh...

>>55077256
Maybe I'm reading too into is but it felt like Nerissa had played and really enjoyed this game before and she really wanted Bijou to like it so she tried to keep them really focused on it so she could experience it fully or something.

Christ, this is so much fucking better without the game now,

>>55077745
and it's over.

They need to get more comfortable with each other, but I appreciate the effort.

How is FF14 gonna be? We have enough ff14 playing pebbles to brute force savage right? The game has a barrier of time and experience so hopefully we'll still have enough pebbles.

Koseki can fly???

>>55077833
Or maybe Nerissa is on the spectrum...

>>55077833
Nah she just figured out some parts really fast, on some others she was clueless like on the bit with the harmonica to get the flower, she didn't realise she had to bow for them.

>Bijou mentioned this during ToTK

CHATTING COLLAB LESGOOOO

these two are precious lol

>>55077933
All she needs is 7 people. And I doubt it'll only be pebbles checking it out.

cute love duo

Zatsu collab would be a million times better than what they did here. Thank God.

>>55077256
Fun sibling shit

i love them so much
kino duo

>>55077933
I don't doubt that she actually is experienced at FF14
I'm doubting the pebbles more, some people in these threads are literally retarded

>raiding into Shiori again
you know you can call me a numberfag if you want but i'm pretty sure this is the only reason she has so many views, every single other genmate is constantly raiding into her since she streams the latest

>>55077933
dont worry i've cleared all ultimates, ill carry all of you through

>>55077933
If I knew the fights I would try to join

I want massage her thighs after a 7 hour stream session

>>55078288
Represent us! Put Bijou and any other dum pebbles on your back.

Shiori haters, Bijou is now on Shiori's call. Don't ignore the redirect!

>Raiding into Shiori
god no
>Have to stay in to hear more Bijou
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>55077933
I'm gearing up for it as we speak.
I'm fresh though so I'm gonna have to study p9s hard to not embarrass Bibou...

>>55078503
>>55078466
Same gen. It can't be helped. I won't ask you to like Shiorin. But you need to be able to suffer her presence without openly showing dislike for Bijou's sake.

the things we do for rock princess

>>55078642
I'm just informing the haters, I actually like her.

>>55078288
You can't carry p9s everyone has to do the stupid soccer dance.
This is the perfect floor to stream because they are going to get FUCKED.

>>55078553
Did you buy a boost or something? 14 has quite a bit of timegate.

>>55078642
Or, hear me out she graduates and we don't have to hear her ever again

I dislike shiori's voice

>>55078789
No holo easily gives up that golden hololive meal ticket. It won't happen.

Bijou's eeeehhhh is perfect lads....

I've only ever watched Shiori during her debut. I actually don't have much of an opinion on her.

>>55078916
I'm personally hoping that Yagoo fires her because of what her roommate did

>>55078763
Ok pebbles. If you're joining the queue for 14 do your best not to embarass Bijou.

>>55078779
I did the whole 6.3 savage tier and a couple of ultimates, went inactive but I just resubbed last week to play casually for a while. Imagine my surprise when I saw Bijou's schedule.

>>55077933
I hope she does that one raid with the starboard and larboard bullshit.

bijou sounds cute on shiori's stream

>consumed kingdom hearts through the wiki
>consumed drakengard 3 through a playthrough
based zoomer

>>55078962
I don't have a problem with her, per-se
I just haven't been interested in the topics she's chosen so far

>>55078288
With or without cheats?

>She only played DDLC

Gemmy slitty

>>55079175
without, i'm very purist when it comes to MMOs

>>55079175
Every person I’ve seen playing the game uses all those overlays and robotic voices to cheat

>>55079331
Cheats?! MMOs have cheats?!

>>55079344
Then you've never seen anyone playing the game, you watched addons play a game

BIJOU GIVES THE GREEN LIGHT TO LEWDS

>>55079427
I swear 90% of the community uses that stuff

>>55079418
WoW has addons that literally tell you what to do for mechanics, FFXIV has a similar one too

Do you guys think, bijou's voice sounds like gura?

>>55079572
wtf
wish black desert had those...

>>55079659
No? They sound nothing alike.

>>55079526
It's pretty prevalent. These days, if I see someone with Ultimate weapons or PVP mounts, I assume they cheated. I'm sure some don't, but too many do to give people the benefit of the doubt.

>not only Shitori, but now the teletubbies as well
ugh

biboo

>>55079714
really? I somehow feel they sound alike, but okay

>>55079842
kys

>>55079931
yeah they do

>>55079842
teletubbies? what the fuck lmao

>>55080078

>>55079725
That’s sad, especially using it in PvP, it destroys the whole point of competition.

>>55080113
and that's a good thing

>>55080113
perfect

Rissa sounds tired as fuck

>>55080363
she expended too much energy focusing so hard on the goose game

>>55080363
Sorry, I fucked her really hard.

Biboo still got plenty of energy

I hope Bijou is chaotic as hell in L4D2.

>>55080461
I can't to see how long her normal streams are.

>>55080461
she was holding herself back during nerissa's stream

>>55080442
bijou..

>>55080516
she will destroy those zombies

>>55080461
I can't wait to see how long her normal streams are.

>>55080113
Kek

>>55080722
I knew what you meant

>>55079029
what did she do anon?

Girls really love the sims, huh?

>>55081119
Yea I never understood why

>>55081119
Every girl I have ever spoken to has been into it. It has to be universal.

>>55081263
Basically barbie the video game.

>>55081119
it's game version of playing with dolls

>>55081321
>>55081372
That actually makes a lot of sense
Now explain why girls like dolls

>>55081321
My sister threw her Barbie’s in the fire when was younger and she liked the sims…

>>55081011
check the archives

>>55081119
I love it too, and I'm a guy. Though the version of the Sims I love was the very first one.

>>55081461
Dolls are like Sims, but physical

>>55081461
Society

>>55081461
maternal instincts, they like to create a family

>>55081639
So girls before video games existed liked dolls because they had an ingrained desire to play the SIMS™

>>55081505
Eh it wasn't that bad as far as PL stuff goes.

>>55081861
CP is pretty bad

>>55081786
Correct.

>>55079029
QRD? who's roomate?

>Shiori PL talk in /gem/
Do you faggots really?

>>55081946
wtf what did she do

What are the chances we'll actually get a bijou sims stream now?

>>55082099
You can report that shit.

>>55082122
She recorded some lewd voice recordings where she pretended to be a loli getting fucked. Not nearly as bad as people here are pretending it is.

>>55082099
what's PL

>>55082122
She.... AAAARRRGH IMPREGNATE THE GEM AAAAAA

>>55082265
Poland

>>55082195
nice soundpost anon

>>55081946
She has the word fag in one of her posts too, hololive didn't do their reps apparently

>>55082260
wtf zased, 2nd favorite in gen now

>>55082195
Duh. I am clicking.

>>55082380
i love this one cause she sounds a bit like a hag

>>55082380

>>55082325
2137

>>55082420
I've got fag in one of my posts, fag, and no one seems to mind.

>>55082531
I'm calling the cyberpolice!

BIBOO IS SO PURE OOOOUUUOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>55082380
Wasn't paying attention and thought it was a regular webm...

Go back

>>55082683
Don't believe her lies.

>>55082531
Good way to miss the point ya nigger

>From Stranger Things
She’s such a fucking zoomer…show her a VHS next

everyone is sleepy, they can't keep doing this with shiori

>>55083168
I'm losing my fucking mind at that comment she's a literal child

>>55083272
Bau Bau probably are. Since they have morning/ afternoon streams, I bet they go to bed in like 2 hours.

I want a collab with Bijou and the dogs, they seem like they have good chemistry

>FWMC can't speak english
>FWMC don't know any english references
so they're literally only hired because "cute girls", could have been HoloJP and they'd have actually been able to talk about cultural shit and have their audience understand them, what a waste

Some of you guys were saying Biboo is 25-30. That's a fucking lie. She's definetly under 25.

>>55083739
I think the combination of kusogaki energy and cuteness might actually kill me.
>>55084022
Shitpost about them somewhere else faggot.

>>55084022
YWNBJ

>>55084064
She's just a gamer who goes back to classics

>>55084064
biboo is 13

>>55084305
out of 10

>>55084305
Baes big sister.

She's gone...

>>55084558
We spent a lot of time with her today. It was very nice.

>>55084558
Just start up a vod and she'll come right back.

Bijou is definitely the one for me. She seems to be the one who gets along with people the easiest and she also seems the most likely to fit in with the rest of EN.

I love cunny rock

>>55084823
Same. She's been growing on me a lot.

>>55084823
I hadn't thought about collab potential. She's great solo. I love her solo streams. I think I like her and BAU BAU the most. I could watch Shiori depending on the topic of the stream and I'll catch Rissa's karaoke streams. I think that's where I am so far.

>>55084823
My attention deficit prevents me from enjoying FuwaMoco sadly, Narissa doesnt play games that interest me, and Shiori reminds me of my ex who gave me ptsd so I am basically unable to watch her. Bijou literally loves all the games I love and is just adorable, so Im going to be stuck on her like moss on a stone.

I love the gem but I have my doubts she will be able to prog savage with random retards. FFXIV streams also usually become viewer poison with constant wipes

>>55086593
Kinda hoping it's only an hour long or at least she cycles people out or something

>>55086682
I’m hoping she just regular duties with viewers after her first few savage attempts are a certain disaster.

>>55086593
My fear is chain failures. But I think this is also a good gauge of how strong the pebbles are in 14 and how well they can carry her.

is the gem really a floppy disk

>>55087075
If she mains healer with prior experience I think she will actually be the one to carry and attempt to wrangle all the idiots but it won’t matter. Learning PUGs for savage inevitably end in failure

>>55087517
People underestimate the importance of good healers, but it's really the foundation of any meaningful prog.

>>55087517
I believe that she'll read up in advance. But powerful pebbles to carry will make a big difference.

>>55086593
I'm going to try my best to get in as tank, so I can at least be one person has a lot of experience and isn't retarded. I also feel the same way as you though.

>>55087862
How did asmon do it? He wiped too surely? I didn't watch him but he made it work as content.

https://youtu.be/rnKHQtYCuAk
for any pebbles tryna get in tomorrow

>>55087941
He was having fun and memeing, but also he had a few good people with him to carry. It helps a lot if your tanks and healers are good and patient since they can save retards if they react fast enough. I have saved a lot of tards as PLD with cover and or using intervene to swaps spots to cover for someone in the wrong spot.

>>55087657
Now post actual actual healers

>>55088124
I will be watching this shit tenfold at my wageslave station tomorrow
I'll try to get in as RDM to rez tards and push prog as much as possible.

>>55088533
Ok

>>55087657
Not healing dps who pulled was a guilty pleasure of mine.

>>55088660
>Me sprinting and charging to pull mobs fast
>Nin teleporting ahead of me to pull shit
I don't understand.

I main scholar and no amount of good healing will matter if small brain DPS are eating mechs and dying, the vintage savage progression killer. I wish our jewel luck

We better have a thread baker on.

>>55088124
>18 minutes
This is why I don’t play MMO’s, trying to get me to play super simon says

>>55089307
Bro please for the love of god sac a little DPS to cast extra shields. I know it sucks, but if your in there with us please do it to save us if people are retard. I hope to god I get in as a tank

bijou kaela phasmo collab when

>>55089543
Most FFXIV raid streams crater for this exact reason, showing raids to the uninitiated is like instant revulsion to visual nonsense. People like asmonbald got attention because he was already a known MMO raider

>>55089853
I think people will watch him play anything

where's the art for today? are you guys sleeping

>>55089853
Maybe, it's also a way for Bijou to interact with pebbles. She could do it via Mario Kart or Fall Guys or some other game. But she's chosen FFXIV. We'll see how it turns out.

>>55090452
You can’t compare Savage raids to Mario Kart or Fall Guys

>>55090408
i cant draw

>>55090626
I want to believe bijou and the pebbles can do it.

>>55090408

UOOOHH BIJOU FEETS

>>55090408
I can't art

>>55090408
I cant draw lol, im also not the creative type, i cant even come up with a design for my pebble

>>55090626
Don't they fall into the same category of viewer participation streams? Aside from regular chat interaction. But you can't get as many pebbles to participate as the other games since savage raids are only 8 man and have a 90 minute time limit. If she did Alliance Raids or Frontline matches, that would get more people participating.

>>55090859
Bijou is fun to watch but I seriously think trying to interact with pebbles and showcase FFXIV via Pandemonium Savage at the same time is kind of a dumb idea. Happy to be wrong but that’s my gut feeling.

>>55091018
Anything that involves teamwork instead of competition is inherently going to suck because one guy who doesn't know what they're doing will mess it up for everyone else.

>>55091018
I think alliance raids would be a better choice