/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>best
ai-mai chocolate
>worst
anything by calliope mori except live again and cloudy sheep

>>5316164
worst: heart challenger
best: watame's lullaby

Best: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7Ql4D1UnQ

worst: that country roads collab
best: that roboco song where she is pure sex in voice form

>>5316164
Worst: smile & Go
Best: say fanfare

>>5316164
worst: hinotori
best: cursed night

Worst: Gura's ride on time
Best: Heart Challenger

@5316376

I don't know what the worst is but I know for sure what the best is.

>>5316306
>that roboco song
You need to be more specific, anon. You just described all of her songs but I'm pretty sure you mean Azamina

>>5316164
>every hololive song.

why don't you listen to actual good vsingers like kaf instead of your holowhores

Best: Suspect
Worst: Everything Cali makes holy shit it’s so cringy

best: ghost

best: Watame-lon head rap
worst: hinotori

Covers: Kanata The Narrow Way
Original: Even with the shit line

>>5316531
Fuck you Chang

>>5316164
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn066hDKjx4

>>5316164
Best: Stardust Song
Worst: Hinotori

I can't the worst between the country roads collab cover out of fucking nowhere and Hinotori...

>>5316164
Best: bun bun cha
Worst: any king cover

Best: Pekora's Discommunication Alien because I'm biased
Worst: Mori's "cover" of Roki because English covers of Japanese songs are inherently cringe and rap even more so.

>>5316164
>worst
forgot the name but that collab song between mori and kiara
>best
mogu

>>5317272
Wahwah land or something like that?

the best is halloween night and you're delusional if you disagree

>>5317254
Why are Nousagi like this?

Best: every HoloJP songs
Worst: every HoloEN songs
EZ

>>5316322
based

>>5316376
shut up kiara

>>5317291
i'm not the guy, but i agree with him.
Even tho i'm a huge deadbeat i think that one is pretty shit

Best: Violet
Worst: all Gura's original songs

Hardmode: No Mori songs for 'worst'

>>5317327
Because they're based

Best: Live Again
Worst: Watame's recent 怪物 cover

>>5316164
Best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9HY4DsRTCg
Because it's perfect.
Worst
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1cdQp5uz5s
Because Haachama's cover was deleted but this was allowed.

Worst: Well all of Kiara songs are tied for worst.
Best: Red Heart

>>5318549
Faggot

>>5316164
Best : Sora's [I love you so much, i think im going to cry] first take ver., and Suisei's Kakusei cover
Worst : ollie's kyoran hey kids cover (god!! she cant sing for shit!) and every calli song (cringe)

anything by kiara = best
worst = everybody that's not kiara

>>5319533
this

>>5319242
>Because Haachama's cover was deleted but this was allowed.
the fuck? why was it deleted/privated?

>>5317254
this lol

best: ghost
worst: calli's musical output in general

>>5319242
>>5319593
was that really forced private? please dont spread a rrat like that unless it’s true, it could have dire consequences!
perhaps she just pirate it because she didn’t like it?

>>5317192
Shiny Smily? Is acid ok in Japan

>>5319533
wtf kiara go home

>>5319526
> Worst : ollie's kyoran hey kids cover
since i didnt last a few seconds the first time i heard it i didnt realise she put an original rap part in it
https://youtu.be/oLOSu6ocgUU covering this song will almost always end badly

>best
Ai-Mai Chocolate
>worst
HoloID Ochame Kinou

Best: Watame drum #2
Worst: Probably hinotori

>>5319593
>>5319739
She had a whole mv which she had to pay for (since holos are required to do that) so I highly doubt she deleted it of her own volition.
It was also not only relatively new (uploaded Feb 23rd this year) but very relevant to her as she had previously sang it multiple times and it was symbolic of her finally returning to Japan after living in Australia for so long.
Here's a copy of her video https://archive.ragtag.moe/watch?v=mB2hfFe3geg

>>5321063
wait for real? i didnt even bother to listen more after when she started the chorus. God that even worst and cringer cringest

>>5321063
>covering this song will almost always end badly
not, when you actually can sing. Saki from riot just drop a cover yesterday and it's a bop

Best song: Shijoshugi Adtruck
Worst: whatever Haachama's second single was

Mori's Roki

Best: Blue Clapper
Worse: IDK probably country roads, it felt really lazy

best: Next Color Planet
worst: Hinotori

>>5319533

pull your head out of your ass

Worst: Everything from EN
Best: Ai Mai Chocolate

>>5316164
All of them

Going through the thread, is Hinotori really that bad. I saw it when it premiered and it didn't really stand out as good/great but it wasn't bad. Liked it a lot more compared to heart challenger.

>>5316164
Best - SHIJOSHUGI ADTRUCK
Worst - Heart Challenger

Dunno bout best but been liking Palette a lot lately
Worst is easily that one track by pekora I forgot the name of, hate her voice and the track is super annoying

>>5318549
you will never be Japanese

>>5322673
Okay, niggerchama.

>best
Okayu's Otome Kaibou cover

>>5317244
Country Roads was so bad that not even the people who sung it have anything nice to say about it. They tried to memoryhole that thing by sticking it on the dead Hololive English channel for a damn good reason.

>>5317291
That song is inherently shit, even a cover by god tier singers wouldn't be able to save it.

Best - Next Colour Planet
Worst - Whatever recylced beat Mori is "rapping" over this week

>>5324828
>Oh fuck we're contractually obligated to release this
>fuck

>>5316164
any Calli song is the worst

>>5316241
that's a cover. He didn't ask that. Go fuck yourself

Best: Ahoy. Few Holo songs actually feel like they were written for the person, and after listening to just about every Holo cover Ahoy, I'm convinced that nobody owns a song like Marine owns Ahoy (except maybe Coco with Weather Hackers).
Worst: Palette. I have nothing against the song per se, it's just that I get the feeling Cover saw the reaction to Error and went "We need an original version of that ASAP"

>>5325128
Covers are still a songs you collosal faggot

I don't usually dislike the songs, but that constant Fwhish Fwhish during EN Country Roads is atrocious.

For best, Watame drum #2

>>5320625
Japan is the home of psychedelic. How do u think mfs there making these anime and shit? They do acid for breakfast

>>5325331
But that was towa's personal project tho. She always been a fans of niki's song and has the oppurtunitty to have her writting that song. But true, it's kinda mid

Best : Okayu Flos
Worst : I don't care but it's EN for sure

>worst
Yoho
>best
Yoho

Anything that sounds like the op/ed of an anime is pure shit.

>>5327603
Every song ever can be an op or ed, does this mean all music is shit?

>>5326601
absolutely based

Worst: Hinotori
Best: Next Color Planet

>>5327723
Except you know that's not the case. Cope.

This is the best one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wNSFmqhQsU

>>5328812
Nothing is stopping an anime studio from putting a brutal technical death metal song or whatever as the OP/ED

>>5329604
That would be pretty baller over some violent seinen.

Best: https://youtu.be/2l_6oIGTrbg or https://youtu.be/0Dr_qvnXJPE

I don't know what could be worse between Hinotori and the HoloEN Country Roads cover...

>>5316221
Mori's Red is very good, what the fuck, man?

>>5319533
based

>>5319526
Yeah, ollie's cover came out of no where and was pretty bad.

>>5316164
Best: Watamelon head

Has a dope old school late 90s beat and Watame's flow isn't bad for someone who isn't a rapper

>>5316314
The whiplash in this post. They're both bubblegum j-pop, I can't make sense of this opinion unless you're just playing favorites with Fubuki vs. Flare.

>>5328812
>>5329685
Watch more anime.

All of them are the worst

>>5322363
TE WO AGETE-

>>5316164
worst: sorairo days by the shark
best: inochi by azki

Worst: Gura’s original since it must be so bad that she still hasn’t released it yet

Best: Ahoy!
Worst: Anything Calli makes.

Best: the one that got shilled the least
Worst: the one that got shilled the most

Worst og: For the win! - Reaper Rapper
Best og: Can you say Holo? (Watame ver.) - Sakura Miko 2nd Orig song

Worst Covers: Roki (Calli) - Getcha! (Suisei - Calli)
Best Covers: Envy Baby (Polka) - Sparkle (Mio)

>>5316164
Best:
Anything Watame was in the same room as

Worst:
Pekora's Random Brain
Terrible song, sounds terrible, doesn't fit Pekora's voice, doesn't fit her at all, terrible animation, even pekora pretends it doesn't exist. As a nousagi i feel hurt at how dirty Pekora was done by Cover...

>>5332456

/thread

The worst is Red heart BY FAR

>>5330348
Also Bully.

Expected answers for this thread:
> Worst: something from Holo EN
> Best: (You)r Oshi

>>5316531
Most of the Holo songs are just really generic sub-AKB48 or anime OP tier shit. Even good singers like Watame are dragged down by dull and uninspired songwriting, composition and production. I at least give Mori some credit for trying something else. She might be bad at it but it's still something different.

This thread only makes me think about how little original songs the EN girls have. Not entirely fair to expect too many from them since it's 5 girls vs. about 30~, but still makes me eager for Ina's and Gura's original songs.

>>5348748
>Even good singers like Watame are dragged down by dull and uninspired songwriting, composition and production.
Yeah, Watames best songs are her shitpost songs

>best
YUMMY
>worst
the country roads cover single

Does it have to be an original?
Because Suisei and sankisei's zombieland saga song cover was fucking cash

>>5348980
I mean, doesn't Cali alone have as many original songs than the whole rest of Hololive outside of Azki, Sora and Watame?

a random recommendation but, have y'all heard Mio's cover of Rin to shite saku hana no gotoku?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vouKgNJ7gHo
It's still in private hell but this was her peak, before she got sick and her lung capacity dropped.

>>5330348
remember, dont respond to bait

>>5349556
Sure does, but (I didn't properly verbalize this) every time someone has something to say about EN music it's 95% Mori, 4% Kiara, and 1% the other girls doing random karaoke covers, and it'd be nice to start seeing the other girls in the conversation too.

>>5316164
worst: that one song by the chicken (unironically)
best: stardust song

>>5316164
Worst: Anything by Kiara, especially Hinotori
Best: Stardust Song

>>5348980
Ina can't sing and Gura is too lazy to do anything

>>5332366
Already have 50+ under my belt

>>5350624
Half the girls in Hololive can't sing and yet they still have original songs.

>>5350805
cute

>>5350805
I mean.. i had 750 when i stopped watching 3 years ago, but at that point i was just seeing recycled ideas, guess it's better to stick to fewer that are really good. Filter your anime well youngling.

>>5319526
Ollie's cover is pretty painful. Definitely trying too hard.

>>5350805
And you've never seen metal being used for the OP/ED? Watch more anime.

>>5322843
it's meh just generic and forgettable. it's just kiara is so obnoxious that it gets that reflected.

>>5319533

>best
Comet, Red, RED HEART, Live Again, Cursed Night

>worst
Country Roads

>>5350020
it's not bait you fucking nigger it's my actual thoughts why the fuck are you braps so thin skinned

>>5316221
/thread

Mori fucking sucks ass

Worst: Any KING or Usseewa cover.

Best: flos

>>5319526
Yeah I couldn't really listen to Ollies cover longer than a minute or so

Best: Halloween Night maybe
Worst: Mori's Roki cover is some funimation dub level trash

>>5321891
>https://archive.ragtag.moe/watch?v=mB2hfFe3geg
beautiful, thanks for this.
>since holos are required to do that
what does cover exactly fucking do in this setup if it's on the talent to take care of everything

>Best
Nenenenene
>Worst
Aqua's birthday song

>Best
Tenkyuuu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLak0dxBKpM&ab_channel=SuiseiChannel

>Worst
Suisei and Calliope latest cover, Suisei's was excellent as usual but the ENwhore ruined the song.

>>5316164
Worst: https://youtu.be/uw9SUSvWBN0
Best: https://youtu.be/h-LOlueKCtk

Best: Tenkyuu
Worst: Rap but I like Live Again

>>5318857
>It's not even out yet
Do Takeks really
Why are Takos like this
>>5322843
>>5330142
>Ina can't sing and Gura is too lazy to do anything
HINOTORI is absolutely amazing up until you hear Kiara. Then it becomes worse than garbage.
>>5354610
Do Oniggirya really. I tried it once and didn't like it.

>>5358138
why are you so mad

>best
my favorite song of course
>worst
whatever song you like

>>5316221
based onlyliveagain chad

>best
cant choose
>worst
that korone original holy shit

>>5358138
yeah, I dunno. Her voice didn't ruin it for me but again, it just felt like standard idol stuff.

I do wish Kiara would use her more natural deeper voice that has the slight but still cute accent.

>>5322363
Botan's trials streams brainwashed me and if I was medium on Blue Clapper before I love it now.

>>5342244
I actually like Pekorandamuburain and listen to it regularly

>>5359302
Holy shit taste, that Korone original was doog kino.

The title of “best KING cover” is definitely tied between Risu and Roboco. Both fucking killed it.

Worst: King
I don't care if it isn't originally hololive. I don't want to listen to king. Fuck off
Best: Watame's Lullaby, Live Again and You're an Ace Kid

>>5360083
Actually I have to say after listening tot hem both again Roboco definitely has the superior cover. I would go as far as to say that Roboco is probably one of the best singers in Hololive, better than Suisei even.

>>5356719
t. deadbeat

>>5360193
REFTO SAIDO RAITO SAIDO

>>5353333
Not that anon, but what was mentioned was brutal tech death and not just metal, and as far as I know there isn't an anime with a song that's even close to that kind of heaviness. The heaviest song used as an OP/ED that I know is probably that Maximum the Hormone one used in Death Note, and that's metalcore/hardcore punk. There's also Asobi Asobase ED which has some growls, and stuff like Needless and Murder Princess with metalish/rock soundtracks, but none of that is really heavy.
Just try finding an anime with something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ygerhl9OJI
hint:you won't

>>5348748

yeah, hololive just keeps pumping out over played covers over and over again, most of their original songs suck,
there are so many good vsingers out there and the only thing people know is hololive lmao.

Best song:
https://youtu.be/XH_JzT_sAgM
Worst song:
Everyone else

>>5316306
>best
Azamina? Yeah that's up there for me, definitely in my top 3

>>5361228
No one in Holo could ever do something like this

>best
ねねねねねねねね!大爆走
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LwOuJnnVTs
>worst
ねねねねねねねね!大爆走
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LwOuJnnVTs

Best: Ahoy
Worst: Redheart

>>5316164
worst: Probably Ollie's cover. Idk just didn't enjoy it whatsoever for some reason. Couldn't finish it but I'll probably give it another chance someday
best: I really enjoyed Suspect from that batch of songs that came out

Worst: Roboco's newest song where she's super high pitched. I love her, but it just isn't for me.
Best: Tied between Mogu Mogu and Red

worst:mori ,all of it
best:MOGUMOGU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um7SFkR-fEg

>Best
Blue Clapper
>Worst
Ahoy

>Best
RedHeart
>Worst
I wasn't a big fan of Reine's debut song

>>5362693
>>Worst
>Ahoy
them's fightin' words, matey

>>5319533
this

Best: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm41hDf1sx4

I listened to Watame's songs right now and holy shit she's good as hell,Konban Dodododo and Watamelon head alone shit on Calli's entire career and those are literal shitposts

Best:
Shijoushugi ad truck
Worst:
Ibasho

>>5363021
I have no clue why people overlook Watame, she's probably the best singer out of the non-industry people (everyone but Suisei and Azki more or less). Her vocal range is pretty crazy to boot.

Best: Watamelon Head Rap
Worst: Anything by T*koyami T*wa

It's not that Kiara can't sing... it's just her fake chicken voice... Anything would sound better in her roommate's voice.

>>5348980
There's around 146 holo original songs. More than Nijisanji

Best: Azki's Intersection
Worst: Calli's Reaper Ka Rapper

Reaper ka Rapper is the only holo song I straight up cannot listen to the whole song.

Best : moona's original song
Worst : dunno

Best: https://youtu.be/ESM-OniA96w
Okayu and Mio's voice in this one is pure sex.

Worst: Heart Challenger, Off with your Heads, and Ollie's cover of Kyouran Hey Kids

>>5361318
They need to start looking more into stuff outside of standard J-Pop. Someone like Ogla Orzzy (DAI DAI DAI's producer) making a Holo song would be nuts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSp35KE5O4g

Best: Ina's Violet

Worst: Calli's Roki

>>5350624
Bro, I watch lives from idol groups where "bad singing" would be considered an upgrade. Ame can't sing for shirt but her karaokes are generally fun because they're usually a lot more sincere with her song choices mostly being stuff she actually likes instead of just "popular anime OP" or "meme song".

>>5354529
damn, almost responded to the bait.

I swear, a Holo could be the best singer ever but as soon as I hear them start to do anime OPs, meme songs or vocaloid songs I immediately check out. That stuff is so trite and overdone that it's boring no matter how good the singing is.

>>5316164
Worst:
Everything involving Calli, and Hinotori

Best:
1.Ahoy!(in a league of its own)
2. Nene's Originals
3. Azamina

Also it's a shame the AI Jew has killed even using instrumentals of songs. Acapella karaoke is shit and anti-hype.

>>5369532
> There's around 146 holo original songs
Wait, really? I'm actually surprised at all with this fact

>>5373043
73 of them are from Azki and Sora, so if you don't look at them then it cuts the number straight in half.

Apparently one of Calli's songs got that rhythm game featuring some hololive songs rated m17 so now theres a genuinely reason people will hate her music

Best: Blue Clapper

Worst: anything involving Kiara

>>5373353
>73 of them are from Azki and Sora
Well, that actually makes sense

>>5358961
But my favorite song is exactly the same as you which make it worse :(

>>5361438
Your ear must be blind even worst than deaf

So, Are we hating on Calli now?

>>5373712
We've been hating on Calli for a couple weeks now, get with the times oyaji

>>5373712
I mean, is there actually anyone who non-ironically enjoys Calli’s edgy tumblr wigger rap and its decade out of date aesthetics? It’s objectively shit

>>5373935
>is there actually anyone who non-ironically enjoys Calli’s edgy tumblr wigger rap and its decade out of date aesthetics
Your oshi, that's who

>best
hologram circus
>worst
kiara's entire discography, I can stomach some of calli's songs but I've yet to find any enjoyment from orange chickenshit

Polkas vampire is easily the best one I've heard.
I'm not a fan of rap but Red is a banger. Next color planet is prob the best hololive song
I hate that new noel and flare song because I hate anyone song that has long hair hai hai hai segments.

Criminally underrated https://youtu.be/Ii7rtNaGlls

>>5374422
Shallys is firmly in my top 3, the solo at 2:55 makes me cum VIOLENTLY

>>5374422
it's a hidden banger

>>5316221
>what is red
>what is guh
Bro

Mori's 2nd EP is the best musical product ever put out by Hololive. You cannot dispute this.
AZKi's Re:Creating World doesn't count because that's INNK Music.

>>5374422

this is probably my favorite song, period.

Have deadbeats just never listened to actual music

>>5360083
Have you faggots ever even listened to Shion's King cover

>>5316221
basedérrimo

>>5361228
>The heaviest song used as an OP/ED that I know is probably that Maximum the Hormone one used in Death Note
>he's never seen Detroit Metal City
watch more anime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLWjlKdfsDE

>>5376225
Listen to this
*rapes you*

>>5377596
Hot

Best: Watame's Lullaby
Worst: Mori's Priconne shill song that literally has like 1/10th the views of any of her other songs lol.

>>5377494
I've watched Detroid Metal Metal city and the soundtrack isn't very heavy at all, I'd classify that particular song you linked as groove metal/heavy metal, the death note one is undeniably heavier, especially the "mental" part at the end(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN2UmX3Kmrs).). Now compare both of these to the first song I linked, not even close.

>>5316164
Dice songs are the best.

>>5326814
b-based?

>>5354483
>Comet
dangerously based Cometchad

Best: Tied between NCP and GHOST
Worst: idk

>best
Watamelon head https://youtu.be/6aaHNvAca1k
>worst
Watame's cover of Sweet Devil
https://youtu.be/uBaIR-yvjdk
I don't of it was her or the management but they destroyed her voice

>>5378035
>worst: watame's sweet devil
i agree with this. you can still recognize her voice somewhat, but her charm was EQ'd to oblivion

For best, I'd say most songs with AZKi, they're really good
I don't know for worst, but I dislike good songs made average by bad mixing. I listened to Spiral Tones a few times after it was sung live, and the MV doesn't even compare. I wish the mixing was done by Bernis instead, he did a good job with Rikka's other originals

I just want this dumb and fun song to get more recognition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8o4goeVM0o

>>5360253
The problem with Roboco is that she seems to be hard to sing without a guiding track to make the best if her voice. That's why sometimes she sing like she is tonedeaf and and by next song she sings like a weeping deity heartbroken by the state the humanity is in.

>>5378326
pure soul

>>5316164
Best cover : That one time RBC did an unarchived gorilla singing stream at like 3am JST and sing Furaregai Girl with so much emotion she ended up crying
Best OG : Okayu's Mogu cause pinocchiop wrote it and his style just fit okayu perfectly

Worst Cover : every God Knows and Sorairo Days
Worst OG : hinotori

>>5316406
Spotted the nigger

>>5373935
Me :(

>>5316164
best AHOY!! and worst is probably one of the EN songs idk I haven't listened to them

>>5316164
Gura and Matsuri's Sorairo Days duet
Indoor Keinara Track Maker

>>5316241
why does every fucking holo have a cover of this song
i dont get it

>>5329330
>suisei
no

>>5380013
> best
> not anything by suisei
yeah youre retarded

>>5379929
Worst and best respectively

>>5380044
>stanning for suisei
yeah youRE retarded
esl

I feel bad for even saying this but haato's second single was really bad.

>>5373935
Yeah, millions of people. The only thing objectively shit here is you and your retarded brain. Cope

>>5341945
>Worst Covers: Roki (Calli) - Getcha! (Suisei - Calli)
What about Nene's Usseewa cover?

>>5380055
>yeah youRE retarded
esl

>>5380100
Go back to the 3rd world Pedro

>>5380076
>stanning for suisei

Best:
Susei: Ghost
Yummy!
Nenenenene(seriously, what an absolute energy song)

Worst:
Ibasho(if it counts as an Original song, if not then "Sick Outta Fashion")
Hinotori
Heart Challenger
Blue Crapper

bun bun cha, bun bun cha
bun bun cha, bun bun cha
minna omachikane pekorappu
junbi dekiteiru? hurry uppu!
3d mo tsuini toujou
jikoshoukai wo douzo
namae wa usada pekora peko!
sabishigariya to etocetora
baniigaaru no geinin
aidoru to shite no seishin!