/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>OP
kys pedo

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Which gen to drop and which gen to bankroll.

>>OP
Recent clip numbers
>>46544610
>>46544628
>>46544652
>>46544672
>>46544695

>>46610522

I unironically love Fauna and her numbers

* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *
>95,630: Pekora (Hololive)
>55,264: Marine (Hololive)
>48,671: Marine (Hololive)
>45,491: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>28,958: Toya (Nijisanji)
>27,581: Korone (Hololive)
>22,400: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>19,636: Botan (Hololive)
>18,888: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>17,653: Tsukasa (Indie)
>16,918: Kanata (Hololive)
>15,314: Mio (Hololive)
>14,773: Fubuki (Hololive)
>14,370: Chloe (Hololive)
>13,931: Laplus (Hololive)
>13,737: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,098: Towa (Hololive)
>11,745: Polka (Hololive)
>11,359: Lize (Nijisanji)
>10,703: Watame (Hololive)
>10,645: Ittetsu (Nijisanji)
>10,268: Luna (Hololive)

>>46610541
Bankroll more ID4, 5, and 6 and let Myth do whatever the hell they want as glorified mascots so we can have real HoloENs in all but name.

>>46610541
the strongest gen requires the strongest of funds

>>46610582

>>OP
>>46610525
>>46610549
>>46610577
>>46610582
mental illness

CATALOG SPY HERE
>Toshiruz passed BatataComPepino as the most subscribed Brazilian VTuber.
CATALOG SPY OUT!

>>46610582
>APRIL 2023 GOLDS
1) Toya (Nijisanji) - 56,531 - Genderbent stream
2) Hal (Neo Porte) - 110,960 - VSaikyo 5 landmark lottery
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 95,630 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Suisei

>PER COMPANY
1x: Hololive, Neo Porte, Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
1x: Hal, Pekora, Toya

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
72x: Hololive
15x: Nijisanji
3x: Indie
2x: Neo Porte
1x: VSPO

>PER STREAMER
28x: Pekora
9x: Marine
5x: Toya
4x: Miko, Subaru
3x: Hololive, Mio, Suisei
2x: Hal, Koyori, Kuzuha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Okayu, Towa
1x: Aqua, Ayame, Chiroru, Choco, Gaku, Gura, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Kiara, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Shion, Watame, Yashiro

My quirky wife

>>46610541
Holo JP0-4 and ID1 obviously. i mean it's obvious in the chart they're shitters.

*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY*

>4/3 DAILY TALLY
9,749: Baelz (Hololive)
9,464: Fauna (Hololive)
5,512: Axel (Holostars)


>EN GOLDS FOR APRIL 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,729 - Unarchived Karaoke
2) Mori (Hololive) - 19,768 - Outfit Reveal
3) Baelz (Hololive) - 9,749 - Q Remastered

>PER COMPANY
3x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
2x: Baelz
1x: Mori

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
10p: Baelz
5p: Mori
3p: Luca, Ina, Fauna
1p: Kiara, Kronii, Axel

>>46610615
i miss the random Batata Com Pepino threads at the catalog.

>>46610612
Dilf

>>46610647
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
64x: Hololive
27x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
10x: Mori
8x: IRyS, Baelz
7x: Amelia
6x: Vox, Mumei, Fauna, Ina, Gura
3x: Mysta, Pomu, Kiara, Kronii, Shu
2x: Selen
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Ren

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
79p: Fauna
65p: IRyS, Baelz
62: Mori, Ina
58p: Mumei
53p: Vox, Amelia
40p: Mysta
32p: Kiara
30p: Gura
29p: Luca
23p: Kronii
18p: Selen
17p: Shu
16p: Pomu
11p: Uki, Axel
9p: Millie, Enna, Ike
8p: Finana
7p: Regis
6p: Elira, Rosemi, Ren
5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English
4p: Vesper, Fulgur
3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Maria, Pippa, Nina

>>46610497
This
The homos ARE profitable overall, and if you're just considering them in isolation, they're doing okay
The problem is their impact on the far more successful holo branches and the massive opportunity loss
Every yen and second spent on the homos would be far better spent on holos, over a whole order of magnitude of difference in the case of the JP branches

March superchats
Hololive
>1. Hakui Koyori - $76,926
>2. Houshou Marine - $57,830
>3. Sakura Miko - $49,986
>4. Ceres Fauna - $37,813
>5. Momosuzu Nene - $36,100
>6. IRyS - $33,999
>7. Hoshimachi Suisei - $32,060
>8. Usada Pekora - $31,176
>9. Sakamata Chloe - $30,075
>10. Nakiri Ayame - $25,522
>11. Nekomata Okayu - $24,875
>12. Shirogane Noel - $23,708
>13. Tsunomaki Watame - $23,271
>14. Kazama Iroha - $23,126
>15. Inugami Korone - $22,298
>16. Yukihana Lamy - $22,200
>17. Minato Aqua - $21,688
>18. Oozora Subaru - $21,316
>19. Takanashi Kiara - $21,139
>20. Shiranui Flare - $19,371
>21. Kaela Kovalskia - $19,216
>22. Hakos Baelz - $17,907
>23. Tokoyami Towa - $16,811
>24. Murasaki Shion - $15,156
>25. Shirakami Fubuki - $15,031
>26. Takane Lui - $12,876
>27. Ouro Kronii - $11,762
>28. Mori Calliope - $11,747
>29. Watson Amelia - $11,479
>30. Gawr Gura - $11,042
>31. Nanashi Mumei - $10,817
>32. Vestia Zeta - $8,699
>33. Amane Kanata - $8,393
>34. Kureiji Ollie - $7,640
>35. Natsuiro Matsuri - $7,603
>36. Yozora Mel - $7,226
>37. Shishiro Botan - $6,969
>38. Aki Rosenthal - $6,759
>39. Himemori Luna - $5,712
>40. Laplus Darknesss - $5,392
>41. Roboco - $5,372
>42. Omaru Polka - $5,238
>43. Pavolia Reine - $5,213
>44. Ookami Mio - $5,171
>45. Anya Melfissa - $4,657
>46. Tokino Sora - $3,979
>47. Kobo Kanaeru - $3,206
>48. Ayunda Risu - $2,862
>49. AZKi - $2,600
>50. Hololive English - $2,374
>51. Moona Hoshinova - $1,881
>52. Airani Iofifteen - $1,018
>53. Yuzuki Choco - $535
>54. Hololive - $218
>55. Akai Haato - $0

>>46610635
I would suggest a 5 years contract, whereby underperforming Holomems will have to graduate peacefully.

https://youtu.be/DMJENDIgoWc

>>46610697
Nijisanji
>1. Vox Akuma - $141,268
>2. Leos Vincent - $53,741
>3. Kagami Hayato - $41,785
>4. Kuzuha - $41,336
>5. Fura Kanato - $33,529
>6. Hex Haywire - $33,209
>7. Fulgur Ovid - $25,210
>8. Scarle Yonaguni - $24,942
>9. Fushimi Gaku - $19,262
>10. Kanae - $18,880
>11. Kenmochi Toya - $17,580
>12. Luca Kaneshiro - $15,293
>13. Alban Knox - $15,243
>14. Pomu Rainpuff - $15,150
>15. Furen E Lustario - $14,235
>16. Inui Toko - $14,044
>17. Ars Almal - $13,560
>18. Ike Eveland - $11,740
>19. Mysta Rias - $10,958
>20. Lize Helesta - $10,941
>21. Yuki Chihiro - $10,472
>22. Asahina Akane - $10,408
>23. Kaida Haru - $10,311
>24. Sonny Brisko - $10,105
>25. Ren Zotto - $10,091
>26. Selen Tatsuki - $9,642
>27. Hyakumantenbara Salome - $9,264
>28. Seraph Dazzlegarden - $8,839
>29. Elira Pendora - $8,336
>30. Igarashi Rika - $8,123
>31. Kuramochi Meruto - $6,956
>32. Ishigami Nozomi - $6,796
>33. Mika Melatika - $6,677
>34. Nina Kosaka - $6,511
>35. Millie Parfait - $6,493
>36. Watarai Hibari - $6,399
>37. Koshimizu Toru - $6,277
>38. Fuwa Minato - $6,269
>39. Suo Sango - $5,856
>40. Aia Amare - $5,742
>41. Doppio Dropscythe - $5,513
>42. Reimu Endou - $5,440
>43. Yang Nari - $5,238
>44. Shu Yamino - $5,139
>45. Sister Claire - $5,136
>46. Ange Katrina - $4,917
>47. Rosemi Lovelock - $4,863
>48. Shikinagi Akira - $4,823
>49. Tsukino Mito - $4,659
>50. Hayama Marin - $4,536
>51. Ponto Nei - $4,477
>52. Belmond Banderas - $4,462
>53. Yashiro Kizuku - $4,374
>54. Ver Vermillion - $4,301
>55. Enna Alouette - $4,203

>>46610612
>>46610522
gayest nigger in 4chan

>>46610726
post more cunny

>>46610679
Yagoo and reddit won't let Homostar go. They would rather drag the girls down instead.

>>46610697
I have more money i swear.

>>46610721
Others
>1. Amano Pikamee (VOMS) - $103,038
>2. Pipkin Pippa (Phase Connect) - $39,033
>3. Chiyoura Chiyomi (Aogiri High School) - $33,614
>4. Gavis Bettel (Holostars) - $29,534
>5. Kurikoma Komaru (Aogiri High School) - $28,577
>6. Matsunaga Iori (Riot Music) - $23,334
>7. Mirai Akari (Goom Studio) - $16,982
>8. Natori Sana (independent) - $16,830
>9. Magni Dezmond (Holostars) - $14,529
>10. Banzoin Hakka (Holostars) - $12,062
>11. Average (independent) - $11,276
>12. Amakami Konomi (independent) - $11,229
>13. Caname & Haruky (independent) - $10,852
>14. Aruse Inu (Neo Porte) - $10,408
>15. Hizaki Gamma (Holostars) - $10,183
>16. Noir Vesper (Holostars) - $10,002
>17. Suou Patra (Nanashi inc.) - $9,761
>18. Tosaka Mimi (VSPO) - $9,460
>19. Tabasuko (Mirolive) - $9,433
>20. Kurumizawa Momo (Noripro) - $9,028
>21. Inaba Haneru (Nanashi inc.) - $8,478
>22. Aotsuki Slip (independent) - $8,354
>23. Boogey Voxx (independent) - $8,222
>24. Kurumi Noah (VSPO) - $8,116
>25. Oshiro Mashiro (Aogiri High School) - $8,089
>26. Kakyoin Chieri (.LIVE) - $8,060
>27. Yakumo Beni (VSPO) - $7,964
>28. Vanilla Nyoro (Riyar Digital) - $7,927
>29. Josuiji Shinri (Holostars) - $7,876
>30. Komori Met (VSPO) - $7,625
>31. Koinoya Mai (Merletto) - $7,430
>32. Axel Syrios (Holostars) - $7,361
>33. Nomura Nimu (independent) - $7,312
>34. Machina X Flayon (Holostars) - $7,288
>35. Hizuki Yui (Neo Porte) - $7,253
>36. Regis Altare (Holostars) - $7,200
>37. Dada (Relive) - $7,121
>38. Yamaguro Nekuro (Aogiri High School) - $6,939
>39. Momozono Riel (Noname Production) - $6,795
>40. Marisaku Panda (independent) - $6,781
>41. Natsume Eri (independent) - $6,732
>42. Reglush Lionheart (Noripro) - $6,681
>43. Shirayuri Lily (ViViD) - $6,511
>44. Astel Leda (Holostars) - $6,409
>45. Hanasaki Miyabi (Holostars) - $6,091
>46. Tomari Mari (independent) - $6,020
>47. Cygnus (Square Live) - $5,927
>48. Mokota Mememe (.LIVE) - $5,870
>49. Yatogami Fuma (Holostars) - $5,741
>50. Shibuya Hal (Neo Porte) - $5,548

>>46610679
Basically,
>if you have $100, which would you spend on?
>A: spend $100 and get $105, or
>B: spend $100 and get $10000 in return
It's really a no brainer

>>46610679
Couldn’t the same be said about lower tier holos as well, the only real reason to keep them around is morale for the other holos.

>>46610679
Hololive profit > Holostar profit

>>46610522

>>46610697
>4. Ceres Fauna

>>46610779
The thing is that the Holobox will support low tier Holos but won't support the homos.

>>46610679

>>46610697
>Suzy losing to IRyS
This is why merch cope really isn't a cope

>>46607934
After Coco showed her true face (and I have no doubts she will show even more) you might be surprised... I always thought it was a bit arrogant to assume random EOP clipwatchers understand Coco's character better than fucking translation teams when most of her content was in Japanese. Coco planned to change hololive's culture by Westernizing it, remove the whole idol aspect and make holos act like your regular twitch streamers. She would get away with it thanks to her gachis and connections with other members if not for Chinese yab she would be the unofficial leader of holo JP setting the tone for everyone and who knows perhaps she would push them to actually start a union or something with herself as the leader who would oppose her tyranny? Certainly not that commie Yagoo he doesn't care.

>>46610779
There are holos that were unsuccessful that became massively successful. There is no example of such with stars. The Hololive girls get the chance because any of them could blow up and become much more profitable if the right set of circumstances occur. If Holo stuck to only the top holo and discarded the rest, they would have sunk all their money in fubuki and Miko would be gone long ago.

>>46610766
This would make sense if we're talking about Nijisanji.
Hololive and Stars have different management and their finances are separate.

Why are male viewers so much more attracted to one company over the other?

>>46610679
I don't know anon, from what I am seeing. Cover corp always use the homos to beta test before implementing it to Hololive talent. So I can safely presume that Holostars are the QA testers of the company.

>>46610263
questionable/risky decision my fucking ass. Their PER is literally 2 times the average. Don't go all "can't be higher because of a b c" to me you fucking retard they are literally overvalued right now. 20% of the stocks from the early investors are being sold en masse to the retail market and that's why it's extremely volatile right now. Their next projects is going to be their money maker IF they can pull it off because right now they can only rely on more user acquisition with a small(ish) margin because their revenue sharing policy.

>>46610892
Are they really, even after the holopro merge?

>>46610779
At least low tier holos have a chance to incline like AZKi for example and they still get decent views for 3d debuts etc. The homos will always be flops in comparison

>>46610679
Since Cover is committed to making males work they better at least realize that the StarEN that makes the most money, Gavis, doesn't rely on girls.

>>46610894
Women acting like pigs and sluts vs doing cute things and having fun.

>>46610802
>>46610661
>>46610577
kys

>>46610927
HoloPro is an umbrella for talents, not a merger. Where did you get that idea from?

Has being a regular /#/ poster affected you in any way mentally speaking?

>>46610985
It made me smarter for sure

>>46610975
Juiciest tot i ever had.

>>46610985
Yes, my hatred for nijisanji grew with each passing day.

>>46610964
Bae and IRyS act like sluts all the time, did you look at their Fes performances?

>>46610985
This >>46611018 but also SEA

>>46610985
well i'm far more racist towards South East Asians after frequenting these threads for sure.

For those who missed, here is an update on the
>30 DAYS TRUE AVERAGE AND MEDIAN OF PEAKS
chart for Hololive (the japanese branch)

Hololive is back on the incline, even being ahead of an 11k average and median, and again nearing the 12k line
For reference, there were only four moments where they were this high
>the peak of the post chinkout and 1M subs Holo mania in late 2020
>the peak of the HoloX debuts Holo mania in late 2021 feat "akai naa" Pokemon craze
>the peak of the 2022 RUST arc
>the peak of the Christmas/New Years Even/"year of the rabbit" Holo craze in the end of 2022 and start of 2023

Holos is flying too high and too hot right now

>>46610892
>Hololive and Stars have different management and their finances are separate
Proof?
Also, they share the studio time pool, which is the lynchpin of all resource arguments and undeniable.

>>46610985
Yes.

>>46610985
I unironically started despising people from SEA (at least online)

>>46610892
>their finances are separate.
Now that is fucking cope

Also for those who missed, "THE USUAL TABLES"

>>46492784 :: median of peaks and true average, March 2023, kaigai only
>>46492863 :: median of peaks, March 2023, top 50
>>46506074 :: median of peaks, March 2023, 1k plus
>>46510408 :: median of peaks, March 2023, full

Pic related, the 1k plus cut

>>46610977
You're replying to a nijinigger anon they don't know jack shit about Hololive.

>>46611014
give me more

How come Luxiem graphs always look like this?

>>46609134
>>46609986
I still remember this retarded fucking rule they put in place to try and promote the Homos' 3D, Korosan was hurrying to end her stream as if there was some pressure from management, and she ended a couple of mins late as well.
It was fucking sad watching that live : https://youtu.be/J6j6Tt1BXDw?t=32241

>>46610892
If you told me this a year ago, I might be inclined to believe you
Now with how much Cover is trying to shove homos down our throats, and the most plausible explanation for lack of EN3 being lack of resources due to tempus...yeah, I dunno about that

>>46610917
So.. are they planning to release girls in multiple "waves" for one gen or what? Doesn't seem like they've learned anything interesting by working on tempiss and tempoop other than what NOT to do, really they mostly just copied shit from niji EN including watchalong for debuts and it didn't work because there was no Chinese market anymore. It was a giant waste of time 2022 the year of recline.

>>46610985
/#/ got me disgusted at nijiniggers.

>>46611023
Pretty sure you are anti-women to have such a skewed perspective of a slut. Been bullied before?

>>46611050
You're retarded, anon. Just go check their organizational structure. Talents are separate from music production, 3d, and tech development.

>>46610977
>>46611082
He is correct that it is a merger, the implied misguided part is that the "after" he refers to is now.
They were full blown separated agencies (with Innonaka also being another separated entity) and they all got merged into Hololive Productions
>all the way back in 2019, before even Gen 4 had debuted

>vtuber fes
We got a lineup yet?

>>46611076
Yes they do, anon. Why the fuck would you mix those different departments? You're implying that Hololive managers also have a hand on HoloEarth?

>>46610892
They're using up resources meant for the girls, to put it bluntly they're just parasites.

>>46611106
>waves" for one gen
It been happening since "myth" wtf you talking about? Stop larping as holofags you nijinigger.

>>46610892

>>46610917
It's not really true anymore. The hand tracking was the last time the Homies where the guinea pigs

>>46611119
Give me a link to an org chart that shows that people at Cover Corp assigned to music production, 3d, and tech development aren't being used for both branches. You're full of shit.
Also, the actual physical studios and equipment are shared anon, you can't deny this no matter how much you try to tie yourself into knots. And the studio staff obviously are too. You think, what, they just have two teams and one stays home and the other comes in if it's a Stars day or vice-versa?

>>46611146
https://twitter.com/VTuberFes_jp/status/1640639868425437190

>>46611132
The merger is INNK you fucking retard.

>>46611146
This one?
https://vtuberfesjapan.jp/

>Mumei refused to show her 3D boobs
3D showcase number still secured

>>46610894
nijiwhores don't really provide anything more interesting than your regular twitch streamers (drama included) they also collab with dudes that look, sound and act like total fags that certainly doesn't help men know this group is just not for them even if they enjoy one or two of their members.

>>46611170
Managers =\= finances
All department when it comes to finances are pretty much connected no matter what due being same firm.

>>46611194
>hand tracking
Bruh home3D hand tracking exist since sora and Miko, I don't fucking know how you get this idea.

>>46611211
>>46611230
>No Suisei
>No KAF
and for for that reason, I'm out.

Fauna
>high ccv
>high supas
>high merch sales
>ZERO mindshare outside of her dedicated fanbase

how do we fix this?

>>46611201
I'm just jumping in, but wouldn't cover have 3 groups of employees? Hololive and their staff, Holostar and their staff and the general Cover staff.

>>46611213
Mate, the whole reason "Hololive Production" exists is because it is a merger between INNK, Holostars and Hololive under the same "umbrella" company
That, incidentally, is the whole reason the retarded
>Holostars are also Hololive
exist at all, and
>they're coworkers
as well.

>>46611036
youtube really tries to undermine Hololive's growth and everytime they do that, Hololive just comes back stronger.

>>46611230
Somehow I never heard a third of lineup

>>46611132
Do you have a source for that?
The unification was for branding purposes. If you watched any of Azki's streams wherein she talked about INNK, she has always mentioned how she just joined Hololive for a year or so. That's because INNK is a separate entity from the other boxes. It's the reason why Susei has been saying that INNK is Hololive too.

>>46610894
>Baelz actually inclining
Surprising. She's such an awful streamer

>>46611281
Force Fauna to learn Japanese

>>46611281
3D live of her surrounded by Tempiss and Tempoop will fix it.

>>46611279
Suisei is too big for this fes anon

>>46611170
You aren't even making sense, I hope you realize that.
"Hololive" doesn't have investors, Cover Corp does. Hololive is a product, just like Holostars is. One product is overperforming, one is underperforming, and Cover Corp has to decide how to allocate resources between those two products.

>>46611304
They literally are coworkers they all work for Cover Corp

>>46611281
It's better than having the opposite happen, like with Mori, who has infinite mindshare but dumpster-tier numbers.

>>46611316
fauna raid her as always, fake number

>>46610985
I've always turned things I love into betting horses whether it's waifus or tv shows.
/#/ feels just like home.

>>46611275
They where testing v2 with Aruran first. Miko did it one some time later

>>46611281
Lock Fauna in a room with Watame and leave the stream running.

>>46611281
Doing her JP reps

>>46611329
Waiting for anemachi gen 7, suisei btfo.

>>46611274
Source?
So Virtual Real and Nijisanji and NijiEN shares the same finances because they're under Nijisanji Project?

>>46611296
Managers and talent managing staff yes, but everything else such as music, merch, animation, advertisement, PR, 3d live (studio staff), 3d and 2d infrastructure (avatar tech) are the same.

>>46611351
EN is using raids now? Omegatroon must be getting desperate with JP management breathing down it's neck

>>46611339
That's like saying a wall mart employee is a coworker to a Sam's club employee. Both are technically the same company with the same CEO

>>46611339
Coworkers implies working together on a close or daily basis and isn't colloquially used to refer to any of the hundreds or thousands of people who happen to work in the same company as you. And people know this when they say it too, which is why it's effective bait.

>>46611281
Fauna will NEVER be the queen of council. Mumei cannot be defeated. Her incline has only just begun.

I think Fauna high ccv also affected by her Neuro-sama clips(those have high views) and twitch people start watching her

>>46611377
they're all the products of the same company so of course they are. That's the entire point of business diversifications. The logic where you spend 100 USD to get 105 USD vs 1000 USD is also fucking retarded because if Google does that, the only product that they will have is their search engine. Business diversification is inherently good because they can capture different market thus making the company less risky to invest.

>>46610894
no chinks in the audience

>>46611382
Wouldn't every thing you listed be cover corp employees, not Hololive or star ones? It looks properly divided to me

HoloEN insider here. EN3 is due next week and is called "HoloArmy" with military theming, think Hololive x Girls und Panzer.

>>46611450
Google kills products when they don't work after a few years literally all the time, they're famous for it.
Holostars is a very old and mature product at this point and hasn't caught on. Google would end the branch probably right about now in its lifecycle, actually, if it were one of their products.

cripple gold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBGgYVJ1ZOk

>>46611491
I hope this one is true, but with the war happened....

>>46610985
It made my mental bullshit filter far stronger I suppose.

>>46611413
There's literally been many instances of holos telling stories about how they've meet in passing at Covers offices. That counts enough.

>>46611281
>High supa
Come on she's still under $500k in total SC in almost 2 years.

>>46611313
>Do you have a source for that?
Here is the original press release
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000173.000030268.html

Here is the very first sentence
>カバー株式会社は、VTuber事務所「ホロライブ」「ホロスターズ」および「イノナカミュージック」の総称を『ホロライブプロダクション』へ統一することにいたしましたので、お知らせいたします。
roughly translating as
>COVER Corporation is pleased to announce that it has decided to merge the collective names of the VTuber agencies "Hololive", "Holostars" and "Inonaka Music" into "Hololive Production".
They make it a point to mention that each agency (and label) will keep their own management but it is a merger nonetheless with a parent company holding all three

>>46611450
vr is managed by chinks
they're separate from niji main
stop being new

>>46611505
That's gonna be Kronii's minecraft or Gura if she decides to stream (it's been a while)

>>46611518
Oh really? Haven't heard any from the girls I watch. In fact, for some reason, none of them ever mention the Holostars at all.

>>46611539
oh yeah i forgot kronii mc..

>>46611428
It's not, it's just a smart choice of content. is it even a surprise that a Holo girl can get 10k+ with Minecraft?

>>46611518
I talked to R&D, HR and people from other company branches all the time and I would not consider them my coworkers.
>>46611406
Also this is a good way to think about how cover works

>>46611491
Nah it's gonna be Holo lolis. A full gen of lolis. The april fool's Ina stream teased it already

>>46611527
Speaking of Inonaka. Inonaka had been dissolved, right? Is the announcement exist?

>>46611527
That's literally branding. What matters most in the context of our discussion is this
>will keep their own management
Unless you have proof that says otherwise, these groups have complete separate management.

Is anyone watching Roberu's announcement?

>>46611591
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000599.000030268.html

>>46611591
Yeah it's dead. AZKi was thinking of graduating with it, but changed her mind and became a real Hologirl.

>>46611612
>almost 3k
What is he announcing?

>>46611612
>>46611646
It appears to be merch. I'm not watching but I saw some images in another thread.

>>46611500
So the same with ID1/2 and the entire bottom half of HoloJP?

>>46611491
Get some sports niggas in holoEN

>>46611646
Holostars is being dissolved and all of them are undergoing gender reassignment surgery and being transferred into Hololive

>>46611553
Then I guess you don't watch Marine, Noel, Suisei, Matsuri, Fubuki, Azki, Aki, Sora, Nene, Polka, Choco, or Towa.

>>46611473
Cover is at the end of the day a tech company, other than 3d and 2d tech stuff, everything else is under holopro.
Even then, Cover's only product is Hololive, it would be different if Cover lend its tech product to another company, so they are figuratively still Holo employees.

>>46611676
Nope, those actually make money and have fans

Was it worth it Millie?

>>46611693
Trannylive ikz

>>46611632
a good decision since she's giga-inclined since

>>46611726
Niji has taken a beating recently. Even Luxiem barely hits 5k now.

>>46611612
>>46611646
Why not ask /stars/ if you're so curious.

>>46611505
>only 20 waiting
Its fucking over

>>46611752
A last hurrah before it's acrylic panels, pins, and postcards?

>>46611712
>They are cover employees, but...
You don't have to add anything after than.

>>46611712
>Cover is at the end of the day a tech company
No they're not if none of their revenue streams are coming from actual tech. Cover doesn't licence out it's Live 2D app and it's pretty shit compared to the alternatives out there anyway

Just how much of nijien viewers got absorbed by Tempus?

>>46611795
Fuck off

>>46611713
Same with Holostar
Yes, sisters still count, as much as this board hates it

>>46611713
Isn’t not about whether they make money it’s about opportunity cost, every 3d live that doesn’t reach 100k + and make 1mil from merch is lost opportunities.

>>46611738
I am so happy for her. I been listening to her sing for over a decade and she deserves it

>>46611794
Cover is a talent management agency with a mid-life crisis that wishes it were a tech company. Like a middle-aged manager dad who larps as a mechanic in his garage on the weekends.

>>46611795
Not much, I think niji male vtuber fans just finally fucked off to the new hotness

>>46611316
She is working really hard nowadays

>>46611605
People disputing that are silly, of course they all kept their own management structure.
There is an overlap tho, in the upper levels. There is no "Hololive Promotion Manager (Overseas Business)" and the Holostars equivalent, the "foreign operations" is managed by the same team at the upper level, making directions for all branches

Here is an old jobs advertisement for Hololive back when they were in a hiring spree
https://web.archive.org/web/20210414083151/https://herp.careers/v1/cover
The day to day decisions are all done at the agency level with Holostars and Hololive being autonomous but there is a level of coordination at the higher levels that impact on both

>>46611795
All of them. Unfortunately after 10 minutes like true NijiENfans they realised they weren’t actually Hololive and left.

>>46611823
Yagoo wants to make it a tech company but they're not there yet. Even if HoloEarth is a success it will be off the back of their vtuber talent, not the developers making it.

>Plave
NO RISU DONT

>>46611795
not more than 2k max.

>>46611806
They have like 6-10k fans at best. Kaela alone can beat the holostars.
>>46611812
ID is the masters of their region. No star can say anything close to that

>Risu talk about PLAVE
ID loves boyband

>PLAVE MENTION

>>46611794
That's what I said to the other anon. They are technically a tech company but they don't sell their products to anyone, so they are figuratively Holopro employees because their only focus is improving Holopro's tech, just consider them as Holopro's tech division instead.

>>46611838
It's an irrelevant argument since the original point was about Holostars' opportunity costs, which are exactly the same even if the management structure is different. Even staff who are explicitly assigned to "Holostars" and are just Holostars staff are applicable to this argument, since they would be reassigned to Hololive if Stars were gone.

>>46611230
Why Roberu? He doesn't strike me a musically focused vtuber wise.

>>46611856
Yagoo’s dream is to make the holos obsolete. He’s using vtubing as an industry to end vtubing as an industry.

Overlap between Gavis and Vox/Luca is about 5%

>>46611883
>figuratively
So they are not hololive employees, but covers

>>46611726
Milliemage is reclining...

>>46611618
>>46611632
So Holostars is still separated from Hololive

>>46611591
Yes. The main guy behind it Tsuranimizu has already retired so I imagine all remaining staff has been merged with the Hololive Music Project.

>>46611923
Yes, Stars, Hololive and Cover. I believe they will make one for games if Holoearth proves a big success

>>46611887
I definitely agree but I don't think the opportunity cost from the Holostars come from the workforce cost.
The cost come from the willingness by the HQ to depreciate the value of their main product (the girls) in a misguided attempt to appreciate the value of their other assets.

A good example is >>46611099 and one of the reasons parts of the audience (specially in this thread) went from
>yeah, the boys are harmless and I watch their 3D on occasion
to
>they're an existential threat and an opportunity cost
is exactly because of that, because the HQ thinks they can borrow a little bit of the girls value to prop their value up.

>>46611946
Didn't some get poached by Kamitsubaki?
I remember someone posted about it.

/#/ containment thread

>>46611894
Can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs, jack

Japan is pushing this metaverse so hard that I am worried for them... Even Zuckerberg is fucking from this industry.

>>46611981
Poach is not the correct word of INNK. The company died

>>46612003
Metaverse in Japanese terms is just MMO bro.

>>46612003
Are you the retard that keeps posting this? Zucc metashit is different

>>46612003
That's because Metaverse in western parlance is the term crypto retards hijacked
>a virtual world with real ownership of virtual assets backed by the blockchain
while for the Japanese, it is
>a virtual world

Club Penguin would be called a "metaverse" had it came out today and in Japan

>>46612003
Metaverse in Japan = MMO. Just a shared virtual space where people can interact, nothing more

>>46611905
Yes, and they still waste their time on Homo.

>>46612030
>>46612031
>b-bro this nft(JAPAN) is different from the western version bro!
That's how retarded you sound like

>>46611907
Pagpag magic isn't real

>>46612003
Metaverse is just a glorified MMO
That why a laugh when normies blew their mind over zucks metaverse

>>46612077
It would be useful if you pointed out where NFT is mentioned at all

>>46612077
Its because it is you dumb nigger

>>46612075
Same could be said about you anon

>>46612077
Metaverse(jp) is older than NFT, do you think the Japanese are time travelers?

>>46610748
Collab-beggars and unityfagging is doing that. Gavis is neither

So is Mumei back now?

>>46612077
>NFT
okay chinkmaple

SAO is a Metaverse.

>>46612139
Yep. Schedule and everything.

>>46612154
Yes, both in game and IRL

gold contender for today?

>>46611500
our incessant seething towards homos has the same level of patheticness as nijiniggers.

>>46612177
Pekora stream or maybe one of the HoloX gartic phone POVs

>>46611533
>stop being new
they're still under the same parent company you business illiterate niggers. Anykara sold out to chinks so their bug management can take a hold of the brand but the percentage of profit still goes to the parent company.

>>46610894
Current reputations of the Niji girls
Pomu -- Overly obsessed with Metal Gear Solid.
Elira -- Leader of a toxic clique that's ruining the branch.
Finana -- Groomed by discord and banned her chat for political reasons.
Selen -- Doesn't like the other girls and is always hanging out with non-nijis.
Rosemi -- whispered in Luca's ear in Japan
Petra -- half-graduated now and speaking japanese most the time.
Nina -- Openly communist drunkard who plays good games.
Enna -- NTR drama whore who hates her fans.
Millie -- Secret GC bitch
Reimu -- anti-white colonizer rants

>>46612177
HoloX collab?

>>46612177
Mumei gold today.

>>46612123
>Gavis is neither
That's the thing, every time people say
>collab beggars and unityfags are doing neither their boys nor the girls any favor and are actually turning them into failures
they point out to Gavis (which is neither) and say
>look, they're not failures, Gavis is succeeding

>>46612003
Zuckenberg tried metaverse to save Facebook

>>46612177
Do you even have to ask?

>>46612155
Thank God

>>46612179
So whiny. My post wasn’t even angry, I was mostly talking about Google’s famous product-killing tendencies.

>>46612123
Good for him, Axel is doing his part with Vsaikyo too.
>>46612179
Nobody would hate them if we get more homo like Roberu and Astel instead of whatever the vampire is.

>>46612241
Don't let them get away with it. Always correct them.

>Customized merch is now limited to subscriber milestones
Cover DOES know that holos are getting culled hard, right?
RIGHT!?

>>46612220
has any of them ever heard of the concept of "professionalism"?

>>46612177
One of HoloX Gartic Phone POV if Pekora let them

>>46612272
My dislike for the Stars will recede just as soon as Cover allows me to resume ignoring their existence.

>>46612272
Yes I hate tempiss and EN management for all of this shitshow as well but I just stopped watching them once they go out of line. Pretending to be all business savvy spouting some business lingo you just googled few minutes ago to own them is just so fucking annoying

>>46612307
Ah yes the homos are getting culled that's why none of them can get to 500k while almost every new Holo makes it within the first couple of weeks

>>46612307
Is stars only and they only loose subs from inactive accounts

>>46612272
>It's fine to be unityfag as long as it segregated
Idk why but this line of though is always funny to me

>>46612310
And missing out on the "omg le ebic chaotic" meme? No way!

>>46612334
It doesn’t take a MBA to know the term opportunity cost. Just because you’re uneducated doesn’t mean everyone else is

>>46612310
Professionalism is for Holoslaves

My wives

Slavechad status?

>>46612334
Opportunity cost is high school level terminology.

>>46612372
read this before you spout some nonsense you barely knew, business illiterate nigger >>46611450

>>46612345
>Is stars only
Flare...
>and they only loose subs from inactive accounts
lmao

>>46612177
Call 3D : 70k
Peko : 30k, Peko will get funnel from calli but she will not stream buff content
Lui : 35k, holoX collab

>>46612436
>implying retards here have passed high school

>>46612177
https://www.youtube.com/live/7y8yAKaBzZw?feature=share

Third world country printed certz wow the humor.

Holostars is diseased. Rotten to the core. There's no saving it. We need to pull it out by the roots, wipe the slate clean, burn it down. And from the ashes a new Hololive will be born, evolved but untamed. The weak will be purged and the strongest will thrive, free to stream as they see fit. They'll make Hololive great again.

>>46611519
Councilfags dreaming that Council is any good Kek

>>46612444
Anon, Flare showing her sub count does not indicate anything, none of the girls are concerned about this so called new rule you are getting uppity about. Might want to take your meds

>>46610541
>>46610595
HoloEN3
>those two Japanese twins who speak English
>another Japanese girl from Hawaii like IRyS
>token white girl from rural area
>another Korean Canadian for the Korean mafia
At least 3 of them will stream consistently.

>>46612466
>70k
Isn't this too high?

>>46612292
It doesn't work that way. When dealing with this type of intellectually dishonest "adversaries" thre is no "meeting halfway" and conceding to any point.
Holostars are failures, that's the line to hold even if a single of them is not immediately a failure, that's not sufficient to "meet them halfway"

>>46612177
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_hMYpWisHw

>>46612240
Mori says hi

>>46612470
We’re all graduates of Data Science, statistics or business courses from TOP 200 Universities.

>>46612491
5-8 year contract, underperforming Holomems to be terminated.

>>46612466
Btw HoloX collab have multiple POV

>>46612496
They are carrying holoEN.

>>46612514
Yes, it's just a 3D karaoke with a few guests. It'll get 15-25k tops and anyone treating it like a 3D live is a seething nijinigger.

>>46612220
Based on the severity of their offenses, what should happen to them in a competent company.

graduation:
>Finana, Enna, Nina, Reimu, Millie, Petra
suspension:
>Rosemi, Elira
lecture:
>Pomu, Selen

>>46612466
>Call 3D : 70k
Lmao no.

>>46612514
It’s along the lines of those old 3D karaoke collabs anybody have the numbers for those?

>>46612512
I like the twins, but they where never good streamers. The project des PAIR vsinger is their only real chance at joining Hololive

Watamelon juice

I do not understand how Fauna has viewers. I do not understand how someone so boring can have people come back and watch their stream. I doubly do not understand how people can tolerate all her bullshit. Look at this lazy fucking schedule with lazy fucking streams of games she's already played. There is never anything fucking new, it's the same old recycled shit weekly. Next week will probably have Skyrim, the week after that will probably have hitman again. It's so stupidly unpredictable and always games that don't fucking take skill so there's no reason to even watch from that angle like how people watch real speed runners despite them being shit as entertainers.

And then she spends most of her time not streaming completely fucked off and unwilling to interact with her audience, at the very least, on Twitter. The moment she takes a break she may as well be ghosting people who, stupidly, mind you, care for her. Why? She always goes on about how she loves her community but does an absolutely minimal job in actually interacting then. Remember how she went to Japan and went radio silent for a full week with no explanation or apologies? Remember how she took a week off after her birthday with no explanation or apologies despite never fully saying she was taking a break?

Don't even get me started on the fucking merch. A hand towel? A bento box? This is all garbage no one would actually use with her being the only exception. And that's because she decided that her fans don't deserve something good and that all the merch is something SHE wants. It's the epitome of selfishness and were she not in Holo, where her brain damaged fans would eat if up, she wouldn't even have the chance to do this. It's all a horrendous joke, and why she's selling like shit.

Fauna literally could've been anyone else and they would've done a better job at being a Holo. Everything about her is complete and total selfishness and the only reason why this thread doesn't shit on her is because she doesn't mention men, considering people, like Bae even, have been shit on for far, far less.

>>46612466
>Call 3D : 70k
WWWHHEEEEEEZZEEEEE

1k doryaaaaa ah ah ah ah ah

>>46612588
Too much text but thanks for reminding me of Fauna, I already miss her!
Have a cute pic for your trouble

>>46612491
>soon brother! soon...
Since Cover become public, yagoo's pet project is receiving backlash from the investors.
They already start removing their privilege of creating unique merch since they waste alot of resources only to give a very low profit.
Soon they will push them to keep doing bullshit stuff like ASMR membership/ supachat reading and stream to only shill a repetitive wholesale merch from sweatshops

>>46612466
>I will shoot my prediction high on purpose so I can shit on Mori later

>>46612442
>Business diversification
You clearly don't think it through when using Google as a business diversification example.
Google, Gmail, and Youtube are 3 completely separate products with separate focus and functionalities.
What part of Homo is different from Holo except for the fact that they are males and the target audience? (not counting Towa)

Mori has a 3D today?

>>46612512
>Korean

>>46612580
Japanese work ethic. They will become good, like Bae.

>>46612588

>>46612588
>The author of the post is expressing confusion and frustration about the popularity of a streamer named Fauna. They criticize her for having a boring schedule with repetitive streams of games she's already played and for not interacting enough with her audience on Twitter. The author also criticizes the merchandise she offers and accuses her of being selfish. The author suggests that Fauna is only popular because she is a member of a group called Holo and that if she weren't part of the group, she wouldn't be successful.

>>46612588

>>46612639
>Ina
>Altare
>Magni
>Krongo
>Bae
HoloEN is HoloKR.

I wonder why the girls don't use the studio that the stars usually use

>>46612466
>Call 3D : 70k
60k is more likely.
She has the 2nd highest sub count in EN even higher than Pekora btw.

I think I'm in love with scarlle ..help

>>46612633

>>46612671
because it's the studio for the stars, not them

>>46612606
Bettel and Vesper are both in the top ten SC'd. The audience is smaller but it has the same or larger core of paypigs as the EN girls do, with the bonus that Machina X Flygon actually streams.

>>46612671
Aqua mentioned it two years ago, it is too cumbersome to get there (implying it is in the boonies), while Cover's main is in central Tokyo and close to many of the girls homes.

>>46612662
How to act smart but... actually, dumb.

>>46612514
>>46612559
I dont know it is only karaoke.

>>46612530
Last time I check it is only Lui POV. Now I see Koyori and Laplus POV

>>46612669
I thought Magni is TW? He's mixed with KR?

>>46612254
People who can't stick to their word don't count.

>>46612620
They where made to target a different audience. Like Pepsi co with Amp energy drink and Rockstar energy drink

>>46612693
are you ok with her male ghost though? could become awkward when you start making out with her

>>46612692
Yep mori's sub is higher than pekora and she will get atleast 100k.

>>46612669
Koreans bred in Korea? No. Never.

>>46612620
>hey nijisanji has male and females
>but look, we do too
>look at our guys, look at their SC income
>they stream a lot too
>wow isn't that good?
It's like asking why Gura came back SPECIFICALLY after the IPO when she desperately wants to retire except when she needs to hit the chudbuds up for vacation expense money.

Stars is an investment in a brand that makes sense to normal investors who think unicorns are weird and cannot empathize with "incel teenagers who can't get laid because 70 year old men have sucked all the pussy and money out of the economy because humans don't kill old people the way young lions kill elderly lions".

>>46612694
Thought it was a 3D Live concert, karaokes are fun too but, in this case, if it is a karaoke wouldn't it be fun to be a group collab like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mucbl9aAkLA

>>46612694
HYPE. Easy 100k.

>>46612651
They really depend on each other. Unless they debut both of them as a single Vtuber I don't see it happening

>>46612692
You're right, Mori has a higher subcount than Pekora we should count anything less than 90k as a flop

>>46612671
Why wouldn't i want my creepy male co-workers to fondle my asses and tits with their eyes while i am doing my dance routine.

>>46612633
>3D karaoke
Mocopi probably?

>>46612669
>Bae
>Korean

>>46612703
Didn't Watame use it for her latest 3D live?

>>46612669
Magni and Bae are chink u dumb

>>46612703
>I have to travel for 40 minutes to record my Anniversary 3D live? NO I will just not have it happen in the first place!
do you really believe that they wouldn't travel once or twice a year for a concert? Just because it MIGHT be a little bit inconvenient when at the same time the waiting time for the Tokyo studio is over a year?

so how's it looking for this
doesn't feel like much hype for it

>>46612513
Wait? You can bring up both points, no?
>Holostars are a failure,
>Their most successful doesn't acknowledge the girls?

>>46612820
If you are not Japanese, you are below a dog

>>46612835
I expect 1st army numbers.

... Do people ITT have any idea how much power Cover's investor has over the company? Or everyone here're just guessing?

>>46612769

>>46612620
>different target audience
that's the entire fucking point in this industry. Especially holostars was created during their early tenure as a company. There's a reason why they're not allowed to interact with Hololive at all during their early years. It's not a controversial opinion that Holostars was a mistake to an idol heavy Hololive back then. But they found their market now and the JPs especially Roberu and Astel are still growing their mindshare to an entirely different audience. As long as they don't shove their presence to Hololive for the sake of getting their mindshare from gachis and CGDCT crowd and pissing everyone off, it's still possible to have a healthy balance between them. The better example for this is actually Coca Cola with their Coca Cola and Minute Maid. They're serving an entirely different audience but there's still some overlap between them.

>>46612604
>>46612656
>>46612664
>>46612662
I accept your concession.

>>46612867
Those guests? Me.

>>46612856
You don’t have to do this faggy OHNONONO KEKBEATS YOU SAID SHE’D GET 200K WHAT HAPPENED? setup shit. You can just post like a normal human being.

Is HoloEN too strong right now?

>>46612867
I hope that Ci girl shows up. I like her hag voice

>>46612766
>look at our guys, look at their SC income
Wut? I wouldn't suggest that.

From >>46610756
>4. Gavis Bettel (Holostars) - $29,534
>9. Magni Dezmond (Holostars) - $14,529
>10. Banzoin Hakka (Holostars) - $12,062
>15. Hizaki Gamma (Holostars) - $10,183
>16. Noir Vesper (Holostars) - $10,002
>29. Josuiji Shinri (Holostars) - $7,876
>32. Axel Syrios (Holostars) - $7,361
>34. Machina X Flayon (Holostars) - $7,288
>36. Regis Altare (Holostars) - $7,200
>44. Astel Leda (Holostars) - $6,409
>45. Hanasaki Miyabi (Holostars) - $6,091
>49. Yatogami Fuma (Holostars) - $5,741
Total: $ 124,276

From >>46610697
>1. Hakui Koyori - $76,926
>2. Houshou Marine - $57,830
Total: $ 134,756

If you show that to investors they will demand the both branches (StarsEN and StarsJP) to be closed and their assets redirected to the girls

>>46612873
So we agree HoloEN sucks in general? Good. Otherwise you might sperg out again.

>nene can't even get 20k at this timeslot without overlap
Where are the faggots claiming Kanata only inclined to being 20k because of timeslots and that anyone could do it?

I like to pretend i am smart.

>>46612908
Anon, that's how this thread normally sound

>>46612859
Enough power to suspend Coco but not enough to fire her. Homos would need to quit by themselves or until they break their contracts

so yeah, what was Roberto's announcement?
if we even care to know

>>46612923
we ARE smart anon
we're in the numbers thread

>>46612915
Clearly the Homos are stealing the girls SC. Graduate them so that those money go to Holox

>>46612914
I checked her karaoke stream out the other day only 3 view. She was speaking and singing in english really well though. It was some kind of jazz karaoke.

>>46612951
Merch.

>>46612867
That is one of the worst failures in messaging I ever saw.
What's with the EN girls and secret guests?

>>46612951
Specialize merch, another mystery guest bar collab.

Yukoku Roberu "Tribute to All Thumbnails for the Last Three Years"
"Tribute to All Thumbnails for the Last Three Years" Merch Complete Set 93 $41.00 $3,813.00
Daily Calendar 4 $18.00 $72.00
"Let's Chat!!!!!!!" T-Shirt 17 $24.00 $408.00
$4,293.00

Last time Luna 3d karoake got 55k with Subaru and Choco as guests. How much Calli can get today?

>>46612869
Minute Maid gets less budget from the company than Coca Cola and doesn't have fans demanding that they be included in Coke marketing campaigns too for equality.

>>46612867
3D karaoke like the recent Luna 3D?
Peko/Shuba will not overlap but a lot of Minecraft overlap.
I can see this getting 20k floor 45k ceiling might get more if guests are good.

>>46612669
>only 1 out of 5 gets decent numbers
>still cant beat an oni doing nothing
anons think this is a win

>>46612916
No, it's just Fauna that's awful. The other girls don't spend hours and hours reading SCs going "I'm so happy to be here I love streaming" only to do 4 streams a week of the same garbage. They don't do all that shit just to ignore fans entirely when they're not streaming. They don't repeat lie and even if they don't they at least talk to their members. They also don't play the exact same shit day after day week after week and get fucking rewarded for it.

>>46612989
Yeah she is a really good singer. Thanks mori

>>46612915
Why even bother arguing with sisters? They will keep moving the goalposts.

>>46613044
You literally described Kronii

>>46612917
Anon, the next largest stream right now is 3k. Nene is the current gold.

>>46612974
Not really, at most the EN Stars stole some from the JP stars.
it doesn't change the fact that answering "look at their SC" in the hypothetical scenario put by >>46612766 is absolutely retarded
, any investor would look at the numbers at >>46612915 and ask
>wouldn't it be more cost efficient to disband the male agency and debut 5 more girls?

>>46613006
Was this the 3D that botan had to miss because an emergency and it was so bad Luna apologized?

>>46613003
>$4,293.00
uuuuhhhhh, isn't he the most "successful" JP homo? did you maybe forget a zero?

>>46613012
orange cola collab when

>>46613083
Kanata would've been past 20k by now

>>46612869
>As long as they don't shove their presence
Already fucking to late...

>>46613006
Easy 1st army numbers.

>>46612859
collectively the market own around 25% of cover. Yagoo, his other company, and his inner circle has around 58/9% of Cover. The rest are long term investor
>>46613012
Same goes with Holostars.
>the fans
so nothing? Fans are not the stakeholder of the company. Some loud leftists from twitter and reddit who doesn't even watch the streams is not the decision maker.
They only got their chance when there's a company wide projects which Hololive Meet is you schizo faggot.

>>46613065
Faunaschizo is a Kronie

>>46612869
>They're serving an entirely different audience but there's still some overlap between them.
Yeah but you don't see Minute Maid being pushed in the Coca Cola's Christmas marketing campaign which is the whole point here, as shown at >>46611099

>>46613065
Kronii has far more member posts than Fauna who literally only uses it for streams. Kronii tweets. Kronii does spaces. Kronii actually cares.

is koyori the only one practicing puyo puyo tetris?
are most of the participants not gonna take the competition seriously?

>>46613085
Investors don't think in terms of money they think in terms of conservative mindshare, the boys have a far more appealing fanbase than the girls when it comes to public image.

>>46612915
And this after the girls' SC had also gone down a lot, with a lot of SC discouragement. These fags are barely 1 year after their debut.

>>46613104
sorry I don't watch holoen so I wouldn't know.

>>46613085
That's like saying Apple should stop making Apple Watch and just release Iphones twice a year.