/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

bots

SEETHE NIJINIG

>>45979083
TTTOOOOTTTTTT

>>45979063
the whining is before gura put up an overlapping frame

>>45979064
Recent clip numbers
>>45971899
>>45971918
>>45971944
>>45971967
>>45972003

>>45979062
Three of them are 3views regular, with flayon being the reimu of HomoEN

>>45978830
>>45979026

* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *
>34,292: Marine (Hololive)
>33,981: Miko (Hololive)
>32,377: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>28,103: Pekora (Hololive)
>23,959: Subaru (Hololive)
>23,439: Subaru (Hololive)
>23,227: Hololive (Hololive)
>19,789: Koyori (Hololive)
>15,954: Kanata (Hololive)
>15,040: Laplus (Hololive)
>14,354: Tosaki Mimi (VSPO)
>13,783: Chihiro (Nijisanji)
>13,531: Mio (Hololive)
>12,237: AZKi (Hololive)
>12,016: Chloe (Hololive)
>11,482: Lui (Hololive)
>11,202: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>10,732: Sora (Hololive)

So I guess no one ever checked what that Miko appearance on NHK was?

>>45979008

ehh EN was already late even by tempus debut, so they must have at least have had some difficulties, regardless of priority.

>>45979128

>>45979128

As a miko fan, i think we should watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COQR9A8D4XQ

>>45979145
>MARCH 2023 GOLDS
1) Nerumero (Indie) - 32,543 - Genshin gacha
2) Mio (Hololive) - 42,700 - Mahjong tournament
3) Gura (Hololive) - 67,405 - 3D showcase
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 68,467 - Oekaki no Mori tournament
5) Miko (Hololive) - 138,977 - 3D birthday live
6) Marine (Hololive) - 39,525 - Minecraft w/Kanata
7) Miko (Hololive) - 42,738 - Soulcalibur 6
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 52,296 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
9) Subaru (Hololive) - 33,648 - Minecraft
10) Suisei (Hololive) - 45,471 - Micomet mocopi Switch Sports
11) Lamy (Hololive) - 44,322 - Clubhouse 51 w/Kanata, Chloe & Marine
12) Shion (Hololive) - 96,477 - 3D birthday live
13) Hal (Neo Porte) - 139,050 - VSaikyo 5 teams announcement
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 32,152 - Minecraft
15) Koyori (Hololive) - 106,097 - 3D birthday live
16) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,808 - SMOK One-Block Minecraft
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 34,863 - Slither.io
18) Hololive (Hololive) - 103,296 - Hololive 4th fes day 1 free part
19) Hololive (Hololive) - 95,002 - Hololive 4th fes day 2 free part
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,617 - Minecraft
21) Chiroru (Indie) - 97,523 - WBC semi-final watchalong
22) Suisei (Hololive) - 160,044 - 5th anniversary 3D live
23) Pekora (Hololive) - 52,542 - PekoMoona off-collab cooking
24) Aqua (Hololive) - 39,020 - Minecraft
25) Marine (Hololive) - 34,292 - Karaoke + announcement

>PER COMPANY
21x: Hololive
2x: Indie
1x: Neo Porte, Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
2x: Hololive, Marine, Miko, Subaru, Suisei
1x: Aqua, Chiroru, Gura, Hal, Koyori, Lamy, Mio, Nerumero, Shion, Toya

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
65x: Hololive
14x: Nijisanji
3x: Indie
1x: Neo Porte, VSPO

>PER STREAMER
25x: Pekora
7x: Marine
4x: Subaru, Toya
3x: Hololive, Miko, Mio, Suisei
2x: Koyori, Kuzuha, Lamy, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Okayu, Towa
1x: Aqua, Chiroru, Choco, Gaku, Gura, Hal, Himawari, Hinano, Ina, Kiara, Mito, Mori, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Shion, Watame, Yashiro

>>45979128
>>45979156

>>45979064
>hololive board
>hololive thread
>hololive Earth
>hololive city
>hololive colony
>hololive territory
>hololive garden
>hololive box

>>45979062
it pretty much solidified Vesper, Magni, and Bettel being the only ones that can reliably get 1k viewers. 5 out of 8 Tempus members now live off raids/collabs/mega buff content now to escape 3 view hell.

>>45979151
nah, it's not "late" yet, it's more of "it could be dropped at any moment" level.

It was definitely late by the time Tempus2 debuted

AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH BENISEX

*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY*

>3/25 DAILY TALLY
8,656: Ina (Hololive)
7,625: Mumei (Hololive)
6,293: Ren (Nijisanji)
6,212: Amelia (Hololive)
6,116: IRyS (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR MARCH 2023
1) Mori (Hololive) - 18,696 - Monopoly (w/ Amelia, Magni, Vesper)
2) Vox (Nijisanji) - 8,614 - Return Stream
3) Gura (Hololive) - 67,405 - 3D Showcase
4) Amelia (Hololive) - 39,353 - 3D Showcase
5) Hololive English (Hololive) - 57,045 - Myth 3D Collab
6) Fauna (Hololive) - 6,793 - Penumbra
7) Kiara (Hololive) - 24,018 - Myth Offcollab
8) Shu (Nijisanji) - 10,195 - Return Stream
9) Ina (Hololive) - 14,532 - Minecraft
10) Vox (Nijisanji) - 10,791 - Charity Stream
11) Pomu (Nijisanji) - 19,891 - Outfit Reveal
12) Kiara (Hololive) - 9,341 - Karaoke (w/ Towa)
13) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,742 - Minecraft
14) Kronii (Hololive) - 20,086 - Birthday Stream
15) Vox (Nijisanji) - 6,437 - Little Misfortune
16) Shu (Nijisanji) - 9,912 - NijiEN Boys Mario Kart
17) Baelz (Hololive) - 9,761 - Karaoke
18) Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,240 - Unarchived Karaoke
19) Ren (Nijisanji) - 12,746 - Unarchived Karaoke
20) Mumei (Hololive) - 8,205 - Post-Fes Zatsudan
21) Fauna (Hololive) - 12,942 - Birthday Countdown/Unarchived Karaoke
22) Fauna (Hololive) - 16,885 - Birthday Stream
23) Mori (Hololive) - 10,321 - Drinking Offcollab (w/ Lui & Chloe)
24) Shu (Nijisanji) - 7,540 - Valorant (w/ Astel & NijiEN)
25) Ina (Hololive) - 8,656 - Post-Fes Zatsudan

>PER COMPANY
16x: Hololive
9x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: Vox
3x: Fauna, Shu
2x: Kiara, Mori, Ina
1x: Gura, Amelia, Hololive English, Pomu, IRyS, Kronii, Baelz, Ren, Mumei

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
32p: Fauna
27p: Vox
17p: Shu
14p: Baelz, Mori
13p: Kiara, Ina
12p: IRyS, Mysta
9p: Axel, Mumei
7p: Luca
6p: Pomu, Amelia, Ren
5p: Gura, Hololive English, Kronii
3p: Uki
1p: Pippa, Elira, Rosemi, Nina, Selen

>>45979188

>>45978831
probably she's too good to be pass on or they still haven't gotten matching candidate for their requirement (Cover always tries to get girls who can match their character)
I have the feeling that they're really disappointed with Council hires, so they become extra cautious during hiring. It's just rrats but judging how they renew their requirement in their audition last year seems there's something going on behind the scenes.
>Able to continue activities on an ongoing basis.
>Should have clear goals set in their minds.
make me think they want girls who take this job seriously.
>>45979008
Eh, I don't really think so. I forgot but one of tempus member said something about how they already got like 1-2 recruit during tempus1 audition, they probably don't want the other candidate to goes to rival company and judging how fast tempus got released their audition participant isn't much unlike the girls audition participant.

>>45979222
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
55x: Hololive
27x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
9x: Mori
7x: Amelia
6x: Baelz, Vox, Mumei, Fauna, Ina
5x: IRyS
3x: Mysta, Gura, Pomu, Kiara, Kronii, Shu
2x: Selen
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Luxiem, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis, Enna, Rosemi, Hololive English, Ren

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
73p: Fauna
59p: Ina
58p: Mumei
57: Mori
54p: Baelz
53p: Vox
50p: IRyS
49p: Amelia
36p: Mysta
31p: Kiara
23p: Luca
22p: Kronii
17p: Shu
16p: Pomu
15p: Gura
14p: Selen
11p: Uki
10p: Axel
9p: Millie, Enna, Ike
8p: Finana
7p: Regis
6p: Elira, Rosemi, Ren
5p: Flayon, Alban, Luxiem, Hololive English
4p: Vesper
3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Maria, Pippa, Nina

EN3 is so late I have decided it is their fault. I am no schizo but I will anti them for this.

>>45979151
10 month cycle was expected for EN, not a fucking 2 year drought.
I'm still of the belief that Sana made them drastically re-prioritize what they wanted for a HoloEN member. It's one thing to have a runt, it's another for them to decide to quit not even half a year in after not streaming for months.

>>45979309
I already decided to not watch their live debut because of tempoop. -1 ccv from me.

>>45979258
>make me think they want girls who take this job seriously.

oof, might have to look outside the west for that. I'd be fine with some Irys like candidates (fluent EN speaking JP's) if needed.

>>45979330

>>45979320
Luxiem did they didnt want to let nijien monopolize male en vtubers so they cranked that shit out

>>45979320
It's always funny whenever I remember Sana literally wrote "Stay for a year" as one of her goals...only to resign not even after a year kek

So what did we learn from the last thread anons?

>>45979356
Imagine Meloco and Kotoka. They are really not that good of a candidate.

>>45979231

astel is almost at 4k. what the fuck?

>>45979330
>>45979367

>>45979344
I wish there was a way to subtract from a vtubers CCV. Not something to be abused but something that can show disapproval. Dislikes do not work.

Any bet on who's gonna get gold n 31st?

>>45979403

>>45979441
Marine?

>>45979408
The power of apex

>>45979427
Hate-watch them in embeded mode.

>>45979320
Luxiem initial success also got EN management chasing after fools' gold. T1 and T2 couldve been EN3 and EN4

>>45979062
>>45979124
See >>45264739
All but one are 3-views in average CCV
For median peak CCV, two of those barely escape but only due to constant raids
Only Bettel is worth talking about as the only consistent 4-view, but also primarily due to his paypigs

>>45979447

Why are you niggers talking about EN3?

>>45979397
They are basically VTA reject.

>>45979441
marine

>>45979468
Based Anycolor causing HoloEN to implode on itself.

>>45979441
Marine

>>45979408
I'm still mad that jun didn't try to shill or interview him

>>45979356
Anon did you already forget what a disaster xsolul was?

>>45979478

>>45979441
marine red lamy outift reveal

>>45979478

>>45979064
>>45979083
>>45979222
ToT

>>45979151
here some tweets
https://twitter.com/Waaa_holo/status/1639936338043744258
https://twitter.com/mosakura1996/status/1639937125872455681

>>45979408
Kek. He won the 120k+ ccv junchyan apex tournament thing. MOGGING, humiliating and demolishing the competition (kuzuha & friends included).

>>45979330
March 17th bros i belieb

>>45979522
>>45979541

>>45979470
Man, cover must be blindsided so bad with all those "we want holostars" tweet and leddit post and thought it's an organic "Popular demand", not realizing most of those retards doesn't even watch stream.

>>45979151
It was about the Tokyo ambassadorship thing

>>45979258
>I forgot but one of tempus member said something about how they already got like 1-2 recruit during tempus1 audition, they probably don't want the other candidate to goes to rival company and judging how fast tempus got released their audition participant isn't much unlike the girls audition participant.
The only tempus 2 worth a damn is Bettel, and assuming the two "vanguards" in their lore were the ones Cover already recruited by tempus 1, then they already hired Bettel
Considering how worthless the rest of tempus 2 are, they should've just released a 5-man gen including Bettel and discarded Flayon

>>45979567
anon?

>>45979571

>>45979571

>>45979567
C-Comachama?!

>>45979507
That pathetic jap faggot and his fellow holo hating vermins are still seething that hololive manages to thrive so well with its walled garden audience.

>>45979564
won all? i think he only got champion in the second round

how is it possible that none of the nijis develop any first army materials over the years? HoloX literally has all of them covering every talent whenever they take a break or something,
Laplus covers for Shion,
Chloe covers for Marine,
Iroha covers for Ayame,
Koyori covers for Miko or Pekora,
Lui covers for any of the shitters

>>45979320
Sana was such a failure on so many levels, I wouldn't be surprised if it made Cover do some brain storming to stop another one, it almost requires it.
>>45979521
>>45979397
I don't follow nijisanji or indies, so I don't know what this refers to. I'm sure there are still some talented JP prospects out there that aren't full on whores.
>>45979552
>>45979590

ah so its a general coverage thing, cheers.

>>45979623

>>45979486
Didn't one of them claim that they bypassed the whole VTA thing outright by joining NijiEN?

>>45979567
So we waiting another year...

>>45979408
based. hope he keeps inclining

>>45979587
Blindsided is the wrong term if the only market research they did is looking at Twitter posts.
"Braindead" would be a more proper term.

>Mori is literally losing to a StarsJP right now
OH NO NO NO NO NO

>>45979625

>>45979657
Yeah, Meloco. Pretty sure she is a 3 view now, or lose to at least.

>>45979654

>>45979598
>they should've just released a 5-man gen including Bettel and discarded Flayon
Considering StarsEN was actually a decent success back on their collab ban period, wouldn't surprised me had they went with 5 homos back then means they will also get another 5 homos for tempus2

>>45979638
>he only got champion in the second round
Thread reader. Plz understand.

>>45979397
Don't compare those whores to my WifeRyS.

>>45979679
I wonder why Yagoo even managed to get his company to where it is now since he is so incompetent. At least Riku manages to brute force his way to the top of the industry while Yagoo only has luck.

>>45979701

Oh, found a tweet with numbers
https://twitter.com/Live_Chart/status/1639975528634658816

>>45979758
I did not give you permission to hijack my post, Nijinigger.

>>45979112
It wasn’t even talked about for half the thread. It was more like if this is possible why not give it to Gura so she can stream it type deal more about her than him.

>>45979807
Kek what are you going to do? Kill me?

>>45979767

>>45979835

>>45979807
I am a holofan, not a nijinigger. But i have to give props to riku, he made the right calls to capitalize on the male fad unlike yagoo

Apex bros what happened

>>45979855
Yagoo is a dumbfuck anyway, he only follow Riku's footsteps

Kaela is taking a break holy kek. Koyori would never

>>45979855

>>45979892
>DaD
damn, what a shit, now peko will be sad

>>45979851

>>45979903
Koyo doesn't need a break since all she does is leeching anyways which gives her the energy to continue.

I miss when Hololive was on top, they're slipping big time.

>>45979977
Suisei is top, Miko bottom

>>45979892
don't worry, cs2 will mog valoshit

>>45979703
If we take Cover (or whoever said this) at their word, then the only reason they ACCELERATED tempus 2 was because they already hired extras, supposedly Bettel and Flayon
If they had already debuted Bettel for tempus 1 (and tossed out Flayon), then there's no need to rush a tempus 2

>>45979855

>>45979965

Price after 3 days. Seems to be stabilizing.

>>45980007
Looks like Cover is hiring extras in case someone quits before their debut. If this is the case, EN4 will debut shortly after EN3.

>>45980042

>>45980042

>>45979855

>>45979639
Terrible post.

>>45979892
Holo really carried Minecraft

>>45980054
ANYA ON THE FRONT PAGE

>>45979855
>>45979904

I too agree that the yagoo is not intelligent

>>45980054
>iofi 30k
>fauna 15k

>>45979758
He has been accumulating enough good karmas. Honestly it really isn't an exaggeration to say that God is a holofag if you see the entire history of hololive from its inception.

>>45979587
>over must be blindsided so bad with all those "we want holostars"
>>45979679
>>45979679
People Talk so much trash about tempus ignoring the fact that their in the top ten for male most popular male vtubers in the west. No matter how much this thread cries Tempus was aa success and shows that stars can work.

>>45980077

>>45980165
>Tempus was aa success

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K_O15uOSPJ0

Stream you got hexed, faggots.

>>45979208
Tempus2 reveal was unironically one of the most embarrassing moments in not just holo history but vtuber history, period. The long awaited arrival of EN3 that many have spoken about and speculated for months already, with arguments and fights across multiple platforms and talks about it in holoEN streams, mystery premieres that ended up being something else entirely, long droughts of no streams where people would speculate it’d be announced at any moment, all for Cover to debut 4 more homos after 6 months when it’d already been 15-16 months without a sign of new girls.

Outside of shitposts, I’ve never seen an entire fanbase feel so dejected after that. EVERYONE felt it, like watching a sports team turn a possession over at the dying moments of a game and ending up watching the other team win from a game winning drive. You’re just left so defeated and stunned by what just happened. It literally set back the entire western scene.

>>45980165
>Tempus was aa success
The bar is so low huh...

>>45980165
They are top 10? In what metric? Also the girls are top 10 when comparing to female FLESH streamers not just chuuba.

>>45980054
The annoying chicken always the runt of her gen, kek.

>>45980174

>>45980054
Does anyone actually pay these prices or is it just scalpers and card collecting autist trading beanie babies?

>>45980054
> Suisei 400000 yen
T-that must be 1 extra zero by mistake, right? Who the fuck is willing to pay 3 fucking thousand dollars for one fuckin card with some scribble on it???

>>45980054
All the ones 100k+

Suisei 400k
Marine 240k
Fubuki 170k
Chloe 120k
Aqua 110k
Noel 100k
Lamy 100k
Iroha 100k
Miko 100k
Gura 100k

Miko 100k > Pekora 90k

>>45979330
16-20 debuts?
it's even a weekend

>>45980271
kek this reminds me how tranny-chan had to lock the leddit for 24 hours because of it

>>45980054
damn, Reine price raise for 5k

>>45979470
>homos flopping
>no EN averaging >10k
>only 11 makes it to the tally on average
I knew it was bad but not this bad

>>45980174

>>45980268
Who is this

>>45980346
>only 11
You mean 10? Kobo isnt EN

Here is for those wondering about Holostars EN numbers
>30 DAYS TRUE AVERAGE, HOLOSTARS EN (plus Tempus 1 and Tempus 2)

Five things
1) It took about one month after debut for Tempus 1 to drop below a 5k average.
For Tempus 2, about a week
2) The debut of Tempus 2 gave a small respite on the numbers of the first half of the gen, but it didn't last long
3) Tempus 1 touched rock bottom last week, and is now inclining likely due to Axel's improved numbers with APEX
4) Tempus 2 never stopped reclining and just reached the dubious milestone of having breached the 3 VIEWS line for the first time
5) Even the current improvement on Tempus 1 numbers can't make up for the reclining numbers of Tempus 2, leaving their average line on a holding pattern on a branch wide low

All in all, barring any sudden change, it looks like the fate of the branch is to eventually and collectively meet and breach the 1k line on the downward direction.
Notice that this is the chart of the true average, which helps "unmask" the recline which is disguised by the judicious use of cosmetic raids to inflate their peaks.

>less than 10k for super buff watchalong
aqua's fucking dead

>>45980054
What is this? and why Sui-chan's price really high?

>>45980334
Which was hilarious because that was the longest lock in the history of that sub. Longer than chinkout, longer than any termination or drama. They seriously caved in to supporting a bunch of shitters

>>45980322
>>45980323
These are actually BUYING PRICE, so yeah the shop wants you to sell those cards to them with THOSE price. They're willing to fork 400k yen for a single signed Suisei SSP card.

>>45980072
Deciding to have 5 person in same Hololive is more or less just waiting until one of them quit or almost quit.
One of them must be sacrificed.
Less is better.

>>45980322

>>45980430
She already watched the entire thing months ago, so no reaction buff

They haven’t looked for any girls since Holox debut month maybe that’s changed in the last month but after Luxiem appeared they course corrected. Everyone always focuses on All Out War but Shu said he actually applied to the EN auditions and they told him no males as of this moment. Auditions didn’t open up again till October-November but in February after Vox made 100k SC they drop the males can now apply. Side note 100k+ supers used to be rather normal and still is to a degree, so why is there so much catalog bait of a shitter making 30k in debut period. Can’t even use the subs cope because Vox was maybe 100k tops in January when he did it and the girls did it month to month with half the stream frequency

>>45980414
Goddammit Kris, start watching DA BOYZ instead of seething to anti-homo randos on twitter to help stop their recline...

when was the IPO starting?

>>45980165
>People Talk so much trash about tempus ignoring the fact that their in the top ten for male most popular male vtubers in the west.
That's like saying you won 3rd place when there were only two participants.

>>45980465
>caved in
It was worse than "caving in". Caving in would be if there was such a tremendous and vociferous clamor for homos that it would be a wise decision to do anything in their power to avoid a minority of negative reaction to their debuts.

In reality, they knew beforehand what the reaction would be and preemptively silenced any reaction, first with the
>no asking "where is X"
in the announcement, then with locking the place EXCEPT for that one specific thread.

>>45980464
It's reality check for chumbuds
1 Suisei = 4 Gura

>>45980271
blame your femoid, whitey. Cover cant find any single sane western woman for EN3 that's why they had to debut male.

>>45980165
Anon you do realize that cover releasing literal pieces of shit for en3 would still mog the everliving fuck out of whatever tempiss would bring out right?

>>45980054
Who gives a fuck?

>>45980509
>they course corrected
How the fuck can you call it course corrected when they're running aground?

>>45980414
>sub 1k Tempus 2
Not even Gavis being moderately successful was capable of avoiding this fate.

>>45980001
haha yeah...

Oh no no no no no bros they released Laplus in FGO

>>45980414
Still beating NijiEN, don't care sister

>>45980414
GAHAHAAHAHAHAH

>>45980599
He is probably only reason why it's still so close.

>>45980165
You're comparing the shitters to other shitters when you should be comparing them to flesh streamers.
Female vtubers can compete with flesh streamers, male vtubers can't. The market of girls who would support male vtubers didn't really materialize. There was a spark with Luxiem, but after a year of everyone rushing out male talents, it was shown to just be rapidly cooling embers.

>>45980614
too big

>>45980586
Numbers

>>45980054
Being someone who works in a trading card shop and has to deal with pricing for cards, I’ll just say that a lot of prices end up being a load of bull and it’s completely manufactured. Too many times will people artificially inflate a card price to make it appear much bigger than what it rightfully is. Also, the only price that ends up mattering is the price that people buy the cards at, and not what’s actually being listed. I can’t really verify if any of these cards are actually being sold for this much but seeing the disparity between Suisei and the rest is usually a telltale sign of scalpers and resellers trying to overinflate a market, just like her plushie.

>>45980614
tits too big

>>45980556
1 Suisei = 4 Miko
1 Suisei = 4.4 Peko

>>45980054
kek
Anya is more popular than Chiken.

>>45980464
Maybe because Suisei invented Suisei, while the rest where designed by corporate.

>>45980355

>Mumei doesn't tick today
it's over..

>>45980325
>Iroha
>Lamy
What the fuck

So what exactly happened to vesper? He used to get 5k and now struggles with 2k

>>45980617
>Still beating NijiEN, don't care sister
But they're not? Here is the combined chart posted the other day, they're trailing NijiEN by some 300 CCV in the average.

>>45980675
There's also wash trading, which is what I believe it's happening to Suisei cards

>>45980414
unironically release tempuke fagoo, fucking kill the starsen branch.

>>45980165
How is that possible Luxiem and Noctyx make up 9 with Shoto probably rounding out 10. Kuzuha and chinman are probably more popular in the west than they are. Roberu is probably more popular than they are. Is English your 3rd language? Do you know what Top 10 means? Life must be cruel to you if you’re blind and stupid.

Why is Watame getting like 400 gifted membership this time?

>>45980414
Press S to spit

>w/ friends
If this is another garbage genderbender collab I'm gonna lose it

>>45980753
It's TCG, card effects also determine the price

>>45979392
35P are bullied most of the time, because Miko rarely gets gold, so they can't control themselves when they get a win.

>>45980767
I'm curious how do they compare to StarsJP.

>>45980767
Is there a way for you to split the male and female NijiEN members? I wanna see if there's any significant differences between the two genders

>>45980675
>the only price that ends up mattering is the price that people buy the cards at
Yep. Seen that with MtG back in the days in the physical "trading hall" in my moderately big city a thousand years ago
>I don't fucking care that the book says a black border Terror is worth X and the card I'm offering you is worth half of that.
>You either want a trade and will part with your card and take mine, or I'll just trade it with someone that wants

2k for RE4 all day...really?

>>45980325
>Suisei 400k
>Marine 240k
>Fubuki 170k
>Chloe 120k
>Aqua 110k
First Army, sayonara PekoMiko

>>45980511
Reminds me; whenever someone responds to people asking for EN3 by saying "watch DA BOYZ", they're indirectly admitting that Tempus is a failure. Because if they were a success, they'd be empathizing with them and hoping they get what they want instead of trying to force them to eat their homo veggies.

>>45980584
Tempus brought new fans to en box as you can see with content such as the monoploy streams which beat several girl off collabs. Plus Gavis and Kobo team collab was one of the best part of ollie event and showed guys and girls can work together without it being weird . Even on their own top tempus are in the top ten for western speaking male vtubers only losing to luxiem and shoto. Plus Tempus are the most successful stars generations since roberu joined. In the end their no guaranteed chance of en3 being better than tempus and things could have ended up much worst.

>>45980767
That's just the Z difference

>>45980816
This time Tempus crossdress collab

Ok idk if he is considered a Vtuber but what happened here while I looked away?

>>45980822
No wonder they act like nijifans

>>45980430
>super buff
>watchalong

>>45980917
only dramafag watch mixed colab
they fuck off when tempiss stream

>>45980917
The best part of Ollie's Collab wad Towa's 18k peak on the girls' part as evidenced by the charts and backed by verifiable numbers.

>>45980950
Won't give this retard any view, can someone confirm whether this faggot finally retired or shit

>>45980950
No
We don't care.

>>45980850
I’ve had people walk into our shop with pikachu/charizard cards and forcefully tell us how much they’re going for on ebay/tcgplayer etc. and all it takes is literally a 2 minute look through the sellers portal and seeing how much people have even been purchasing the cards for before they get their hearts broken. Some dude came in acting like his Pikachu was worth $300 because that’s what people were listing it for when 90% of sales were in the $20 range. Happens too many times

>>45980661
>numbers from a card shop
who gives a fuck?

>>45980917
And you'd realize that the purpose of collabs is to increase the viewership of the individual participants. Do you see viewership increases for the participants of mixed collabs?

>>45979408
Look at this masterpiece
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ewdXCbWYDl4

>Astel 3.5k
wait how? does attending Jun tourney incline him

>>45980816
For so much Unity council has almost no creativity and very limited charisma.

>>45980727
Watame's design is older than Cover.

>>45981036
>>45980586
nijiseethe

>>45980847
>I'm curious how do they compare to StarsJP.
Holostars average too low for it to make sense to chart together with the other branches.
Their current average is 570, and their highest point on record was
>831, on 2021-07-26
and their lowest point on record was
>437, on 2023-03-17

>>45981036
scroll up

>>45980614
Lap-chan (Seriosa)

>>45980917
and those collab numbers mean shit, you can just scroll up and see instead of it inclining their numbers, they still stuck on reclining spiral now.

>holo china leaks
>azur lane season 2 collab
>genshin sponsorship on launch

Look at how much coco cost cover.

>>45980589
Overcorrection is a thing
It's pretty clear that holo EN upper management has been flying blind since the very beginning
And that extends to their recruitment
It wasn't particularly inspired, since they had the pick of the litter for myth and councilrys, primarily going for prior success plus the token bilingual per gen
Which worked for the most part, especially with the biggest EN chuuba ever, but failed the hardest with Sana
(Niji's even worse, especially after luxiem should've given them the same advantages for homo recruiting)

>>45980917
>no guarantee of EN3 being better than tempus
If I had to bet on whether or not EN3 would average at least 2k ccv their entire career then I'd go all in 100% of the time
also
>collab numbers
rumao rumao roru

>>45981129
ching chong to you bug

>>45981075
Cope and seethe, mythfag.

>>45981061
For a sec, I thought the name for all three of them starts with Asu

my cute wife

>>45981129
What is this? Another fake ass chingchenghanji screenshot?

>>45980917
>no guarantee of EN3 being better than tempus
You are joking right?

>>45980917
>In the end their no guaranteed chance of en3 being better than tempus and things could have ended up much worst.

My cute idol wife

>>45981167
What did you think of her Hologra?

JWU and the sky is looking really GRIM today
No wonder Pekora won't play this anymore, this is as poisonous as a JRPG

>>45981182
Tell her to stream

>>45981027
Yeah. In the end the price of a commodity is the price people are willing to pay for it.
I don't miss my days trading MtG cards for profit, I paid for lots of my underage drinking with that money but scamming attractive moms trying to help their sons to get nice cards wasn't that funn-
>AH, WHO AM I KIDDING, I LOVED THE STUFF!

>>45981191
Chloe and AZKi are very cute

>>45981202
Anon, Pekora literally playtesting the demo just so we can see the number for it

>>45981129

>>45981182
sex symbol of /vt/

>>45981072
Is it your first time seeing an Astel's APEX tournament arc?
Depending on who he's playing with and on the tournament he can beat 4k, 5k with it

>>45981129
If you want people to care, at least translate this shit you fucking bug.

>>45981129
If Coco was in Nijisanji, she would've been publicly shamed with a huge list of misdemeanors and fired the day after chinks demanded her head

>>45981167
>>45981182
we love your cute wives here

>>45980297
>>45980718
Bros Fauna is less than chicken...

>>45981202
Man, I hope the other girls see these numbers along with the hoops they'd have to jump through to play it, just say 'fuck it' and either skip it or play the original.

>>45980950
Main channel is shadowbanned, views are terrible and video reuploads do much better on his smaller 2nd and 3rd channel.
He's upset that all his YT contacts keep lying to him and says he might have to abbandon the 2 mil subscribed channel soon.

>>45981241
Tits too big

>>45981107
Oof, so I guess in that regard StarsEN has been a unbridled success for Yagoo

>>45980950
en3

>>45981107
>831, on 2021-07-26
That's around the EOP high point right? And Peak of Myth too iirc.

>>45981283
shadowbans are a meme

>>45980917
>Tempus brought new fans to en box
Nice joke.

>>45981263
kek, they would go all the way back to
>Made Luna say inappropriate words in front of her audience
>Made fun of the technical difficulties of her gen mate
>Made allusions to sex, drugs and rock and roll

>>45980414
>HoloEN is starting to stream again
EN3 would probably kill them at this point.

>>45980887
>Newfag doesn't understand how the prices work
Never change/#/

>>45981281
Fauna’s card art is terrible.

>>45981075
I didnt notice it until now but I really do think Sana was the only thing keeping them somewhat together back then. how long has it been since the last full council collab that wasnt an anniversary stream?

Oh look salome is streaming again

>>45981318
you forgot the
>Made Miko jump out of the top of the Statue of Liberty

>>45981311
Ok YT intern-kun.

>>45981241
The day holosummer arrives is the day /vt/ will collectively blow their load to swimsuit Gura

>>45980718
>JP chuuba
>popular in JP

Certified top dog of NijiEN's graph

>>45981191
Havent gotten around to it yet

>>45981372
I miss Sana, she was pretty high-energy and cute, like a lot of her jokes and her voice is bad but she always constantly keep up the positive energy

>>45981440
that looks like my city

>>45981440
What the hell is this? It's not even Z anymore

>ITT: people fall for obvious bait and falseflag

>>45981311
Retard.

>>45981440
Why do the sisters do this?

>>45981440
vox made sisters cum 6 times. How many times did you make your gf cum, anons?

>>45981281
Fauna's price being low is understandable because her character creator is least popular in holo.

>>45981440
Chinese viewer behavior

>>45980414
Holy GRIM. And the ironic thing is that Tempoop and management did more damage to DA BOIZ than any unicorn could ever pray for.

>>45981505
huke?

>>45981468
Too bad she didn't give a shit until her final month.

>>45981293
>in that regard
Up until Neo Porte debuted their second gen there was not a single male gen of corporate vtuber in Japan that didn't outrank the Holostars.
Here is the list of tracked male vtubers in the japanese market and their averages in 2022
>pic related
Holostars only fully outrank
>Hajime
>3 random ass indies
>3 boys of the now defunct Vsen
>1 boy of the now all but defunct VOMS

The fuck they are all (but Roberu) outranked by a fucking (giant) monkey (Gorilla Virtual) shows how much it is NOT an accomplishment to outrank Holostars.
Fucking Seraph Dazzlegarden outranks the Holostars (including Roberu)

>Watame 18k
>Flare and Aki peaked over 10k
Anything happening?

>>45981536
Lol

>>45980917
The reason this bait works is because there are actual people that believe this. No matter how bad new girls are they’ll perform better than them. Your logic for collabs is literally well male collabs might have made people leave the fanbase but they still get almost Gura numbers. All individual numbers have fallen except for 3 people (1 needs more streams) all female collabs have dropped because people won’t watch collabs with certain girls out of principle now.

>>45981318
>made tasteless joke about suicide using a coworker's live2d
>false statements about the company being a black company
>infringement of several company rules regarding politics

>>45981414
>>45981497
not an argument

>>45981281
Fauna streams in the middle of the night for JP niki and she hardly collabs with JP members so nips don't care or know much about her.

>>45981468
Too bad she values her chinese fellating job over her role as a holo.

How mindbroken are you to the point where the mention of "with friends" means male collab?
Like, during Kronii's BD you guys were all YBDBD but nothing happened. Why do you like to exaggerate that much?

>>45981572
>made tasteless joke about suicide using a coworker's live2d
Nah, that crossed a real line and got her to apologize (but not suspended), and removed the benefit of doubt for her from that point on

>>45980675
>the only price that ends up mattering is the price that people buy the cards at
The list shows a specific store buying price.

>>45981595
>In the middle of the night
Nigga her stream start time at the earliest is 7AM jst...

HoloFriends plushie sales after 54 hours

Marine 5000 starting 3291 sold
Noel 2500 starting 1250 sold
Nene 2500 starting 697 sold
Mel 1000 starting 270 sold
Haachama 1000 starting 265 sold

>>45981556
We love Watame here.

>>45981318
>implied that our company and talents are in any way associated to the yakuza
>slandered the ceo on stream multiple times
>hosted an inappropriate stream of her shaving her private parts
>sexually harassed our talents on stream
>made remarks that lost our investors's trust and goodwill

>>45981440
This used to be a 15k stream

>>45980464
Despite what anyone might guess, Suisei is full of gachikois.

>>45981617
>you guys
You mean one shitposter wishing it would happen, no?

>>45981440
Milord..........

>>45981648
I am surprised Marine haven't sold out

>>45981263
no because bilibili own Nijisanji so they will try their best to damage control.

>>45981129
Zhanga changa wanga danga to you too my bug friend

I hate you fags so fucking much coping so god damn hard for faunas card price shes unironically walmart ina and only in streaming ethic so only has good ccv and none of the talent or reach so nobody actually cares

HOLOSWEEP!
HOLOCHADS STATUS?

>>45981648
Haachama...

>>45981572
>made Sora swear

>>45981556
Hololive with the forbidden technique of the double sandbox buff.

>>45980271
It really just shows that their management does whatever the hell they want without caring about how it's received by fans.
No new girls, EN not in Holosummer, streams massively cut due to their greedy sponsorship work, and then back-to-back male gens while screaming at fans to not complain about collabs. The actions of an utterly selfish and callous group. That's without even considering day-to-day incompetence like tech or perms issues.
To their credit, the HoloEN girls themselves recognized something was wrong and scrambled to put together a few things for Halloween and Christmas, and half of them willingly isolated themselves from Holostars.
But damn, Tempus2 was really the breaking point. Fans who were peaceful before just said fuck it and lashed out, and I think it caused a permanent cultural shift in vtubing where the fans are more critical, demanding, and unafraid of appearing hostile.

>>45981617
>How mindbroken are you to the point where the mention of "with friends" means male collab?
"With friends" is code for "I'm going to use these bitches to shield my dumb ass from the stupid mistake I made".

>>45981414
I’m gonna be real I get notifications for every stream even those I’m not subscribed to. I hear streamers say you can search for me I won’t appear, never happened for me. NTA but I also think it’s a meme to get people to click the bell.

>>45981658
you forgot the
>being american

>>45981440
Yet another classic where you cannot tell where the humans end and the bots begin.

>>45981693
Remember that nousagi lamenting the fact Pekora can't win the bronze race? Well, his dream is coming true if this keep up, monkey paw fucker

>>45981687
>doing damage control for 1 liver instead of just doing a public execution zaion style

>>45981281
Fauna is the pride of NA she doesn't need to do well in JP

>>45981699
Her plushie is cute but it's hard to have lots of adoring paying customers for her merch if she spent an inordinate amount of time in very long hiatus since the end of 2020.
Sometimes you EN lads mald about the time this or that girl spends away from you guys but for Haaton, holding on to Haachama's love even during her long ass absences is difficult as fuck

>>45981648
holy nene miscalculation, did she had another merch run recently to sap this numbers?

>>45981129
They lose global reach and maybe japan if they do that. Thank god yagoo is smart and prioritizes future outlook in business.

>>45981281
I mean like that anon said earlier, these card prices cannot be trusted and mostly inaccurate/inflated.
Just look at Reine's price

>>45981699
is a plushie of haato, not haachama

>>45981744
If it isnt filtered out, its legit.

>>45981648
They need to do this to make them sell better
https://youtu.be/4byFUBR9Ugs?t=43

>>45981633
No, that joke is what caused Cover to get very anal about everything that goes on. Before that point, Holos were allowed to release shit without management oversight. The second thing it did was get them to throw Coco into the banishment room.

So who currently have the most 30k/40k/50k stream?

>>45981763
Mine doesn't leave. I know of the plight of Haatons though.

Oh right, triple elves into the tally

Honestly, people over at /jp/ was right when they opposed to Cover debuting HoloEN.
At least HoloCN understands the rules and culture since they are also Asians, not the race traitors from HoloEN.

>>45981556
>>Watame 18k
Watame has become too strong

>>45981569
>all female collabs have dropped because people won’t watch collabs with certain girls out of principle now.
Don't be stupid.
Point is, male collabs do good cause they combine the meager male audience these fags have+ tourists+ novelty.

I bet people /here/ do not remember how Council collabs with Myth were popping off at first. Can you tell me Gura would get casual 30k with Kronii today? Or 20k? It's literally the novelty buff, and even then its a weaker buff than EN3 would get.

Pic related, nigh incomprehensible nowadays for Gura to get more on a collab than a solo stream.

Gotta love how the last girl collab (on Chicken's fucking channel, with a worse topic) beat the last male collab, but we're still on "male collabs do better" shit btw.

>>45981693
Nijibros... Our outfit event stream didn't make it. How do we cope?

>>45981833
Pekora on all counts, the only one that has the chance of not being Pekora would be "over 10k" because maybe (big maybe, I didn't count) Koyori can overpower her with sheer number of streams

>>45981798
Thanks, EOP tourist.

IPO in 6 minutes guys...

>>45981617
With friends is literally Mori's stupid "tee hee I'm hiding who" trick. It doesn't mean homos but its inherently a veil they use when they refuse to be clear what's going on.

>>45981282
Kinda seemed like that's where Gura is at

>>45981827
Now that I think about it, the niji excuse for Zaion works on Coco really well
>other vtubers have done that, but Coco outdid them all in the span of a couple of months!

>>45981906
EN3 announcement is also in 5 minutes. BELIEVE.

>>45981617
>no oshi marks
>no names
wanna guess why?

>>45981919
I wouldn't blame her one bit.

>>45981932
That's why I also believe Gundou might have stepped in a "bouncing betsy" this time and it is about to blow on her face in super slomo

https://youtu.be/VzO9-wZEolw
did we talk about this yet?

>>45981913
You, sir, are an incredibly unstable individual if you jump through that many hoops to get to that point.

>>45981372
Funny thing is you’re both right and wrong. Sana kept them together but also the reason their collabs became so infrequent. Either bae or mumei don’t remember which thought it wouldn’t be right to do council collabs without her and she was always ‘better’ for event streams that it turned them into events. She even chose to graduate a month before their actual anniversary and ruined their surprises. They ended up unable to come up with new things in time and made their first anniversary awful. We can shit on myth unity but they kept up monthly full collabs for a good while.

>>45981989
yes, last week

Holy shit bros. It's finally happening!!!!!

So the real number is sub-5k

>>45981994
If you're out of arguments just call me a schizo or a retard. One word is enough, do not force me to read your entire projection.

So are you guys ready for daily /biz/ threads on /vt/?

>>45981989
Man, too bad that "I underestimated hololive" Korean dude didn't manage to get his expo tix. This shit would be a very good vlog material.

>>45982033
Yeah, you're a schizo

>>45981763
An oshi gone for a month vs gone for a week feels the same depending on what you’re used to. Korone fans were losing it when she took her first break.

>>45981281
deserved, Kiara worked hard to not be the last at everything this time

So can we check Cover stock using the same site as Anykara? Or they have different websites and whatnot?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3l8L7tutH4

>>45981129
Don't care about your bug creative writing, faggot.

3 minutes until StonkWars begin!!!!!

HoloES FUCKING WHEN?

>>45981902
Well yeah i think 10k is dominated by koyo

>>45982033
Honestly, you kinda sound like a nigger with that type of mental gymnastic

>>45980054
Nice to see that Towa almost hits the 100k

this thread will be unusable for days

>>45982004
Tbh it makes sense when you look at the individual members. Kronii barely does anything these days, Fauna has extreme Collab autism and won't reach out for anything, mumei is only marginally better than Fauna but still prefers to focus on her solo streams
I think Bae is really the only one who has it in her to organize these kinds of big collabs

For those screaming about IPO pretty sure the market opens at 9 AM?

>>45982115
matate negro, holoES nunca. Qué asco me dan las vtubers que hablan en español, 100% putas todas

>>45982033
Calm down Philip

>>45981693
Probably like this >>45981751

>>45981283
Kek, he got fucked by sister when he did that collab with risotto

Where do I buy cover stock?

>>45982033
Are you perhaps, Philip the horse lover?

>>45982158
Yeah it does, we won't get any valid results until 15 hours later

>>45981919
Gura isn't a numberfag tho
She wouldn't play it because of BS restrictions like having to hide puzzle solving

>>45982111
Can't wait for retards that know nothing of numbers to shitpost with something new.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9McHomzk7I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9McHomzk7I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9McHomzk7I

>>45982033
I mean, he does have a point

>>45982115
>want another male collaber after ID
no thanks

>>45982237
what the fuck is that countdown?

>>45982237
She will go full gachi pandering in this one

HOLOLIVE JP 7th HOLOY

>>45982162
>>45982207
Deadbeats calm the fuck down, not everyone is your horse nigger anti. I think that guy should rope himself for pulling such bullshit on any holo.
I also know "why my friends!" has been Mori's gimmick phrase for years. Christ did you faggots come from a discord or something? There's no Mori defenders here at pretty much any hour.

>>45981854
Retarded esl spam like this is why HoloEN management can't understand the fanbase very well.

Rye is back!

Can we check which company buy Cover stocks now tho?

>>45982115
Hopefully never. Just invest into EN, any third world market who can't understand English is not worth pursuing.

>>45982360
wow, already bleeding chuubas?

>>45982373
Qatari will buy cover stocks. Watch Manchester United's main jersey sponsor being Hololive next season

>>45982360
EN3!

>>45982287
Is sad that I actually wanted a mecha holo but thanks to Omega she will forever be associated with the red homo and people will beg for her to save him

>>45982360
I summon Ryeschizo

>>45982237
Orisong?

>>45982287
>which can spread socialism
I prefer communism.
https://youtu.be/tcInGlf-iP0?t=1197

Daily stock thread soon (99% of it will be shitposting)

What's this venti bullshit 2.0 about anyway?
People on twitter keep saying Cover striked her channel/sent a C&D but I see no evidence. It feels like pure hearsay feels good bullshit of people wanting that to be the truth.

>>45982493
cover

>>45982373
Anyone can buy cover stocks anon
Even (You)

>>45982524
probably just her being the usual attentionwhore
just ignore her like always
>caring about attentionwhores

>>45982237
Damn, she's cute

>>45982560
I don't care about (You), I care about the company that would buy Cover's stock tho

>>45982524
stop giving her attention lol

>>45982524
it is bullshit.
you don't think that venti bitch would have waved that cover C&D around like a flag on twitter like a retard?

>>45981686
>>45981787
>>45981823
Do you think the better sales for HoloFriends Vol1 was due to them coming out before HoloShop got fucked by the new shipping prices?

>>45982467
Ryeschizo is dead anon but you can have this

>>45982664
It definitely affect the sale yeah,

>>45982590
>>45982625
Oh come on, talking her about /here/ isn't giving her attention, it's discussing something relevant to vtubing (since it was about Gura/IM). I don't want to hear this shit from the thread that will spend 500 posts about what some homobegger said on twitter.

Jwu
Check vrabi
Mikoschizo and slipschizo must be in shambles.

I think it is feasible some big companies try to muscle every last share they can of Cover and shit goes limit up for a few days.

>>45982719
don't worry, it will be something next week when she talks about pippa

>>45982719
I don't like the twittershit either but you can stop contributing to it

>>45982237
I can't believe our gorilla girl have such a beautiful voice