/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

HOMOCHAD DOMINATION

Whatever it is, it will get shit numbers

Either Gura moves to Japan or she graduates. Fucking hell at least if she graduates i can drop EN when IRyS is forced to collab with a homo.

>>40170677
I think you might be right! The tweet mentions Tempus but makes no mention of HoloSTARS. It's the new girls.

The vsinger people here are trolling right? Not even JP has that shit and if Irys songs are any indication then male vsinger songs would mega flop.

Also even on the video the guy talked in plural.

>>40170766
Plot twist. They are all tran-women group. That will teach ya to suck Omega lady-dick.

>>40170910
Recent clip numbers
>>40126088
>>40126124
>>40126170
>>40126196
>>40126226

GRIM Chads keep winning

Unfathomably GRIM

>>40170983
>Either Gura moves to Japan or she graduates
She might as well graduate with her current streaming frequency. At current rate Gura is a non-factor, anon. You don't get much pull when you don't or can't work.

what do you think fauna and mumei do in bed together?

Do we forgive Gura now?

https://poal.me/3piaj8
https://poal.me/3piaj8
https://poal.me/3piaj8

I watched Tempus's debut, I wanted to give them a shot, but there's no way I'm watching this if it more male members.
They got 40k or so on debut. What do you think this one will get?

new friendS
plural

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knb_mosTUvo
can her fps tourist make this into big number??

Grim nation rise up

New rrat from Omega. Artemis is new member of EN3.

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>178,006: Pekora (Hololive)
>96,661: Miko (Hololive)
>50,749: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>30,518: Fubuki (Hololive)
>24,412: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>23,024: Lamy (Hololive)
>18,833: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>16,060: Koyori (Hololive)
>15,940: Flare (Hololive)
>15,692: Vox (Nijisanji)
>15,595: Okayu (Hololive)
>15,030: Chima (Nijisanji)
>14,797: NeruMero (Indie)
>13,397: Towa (Hololive)
>12,409: Luna (Hololive)
>11,755: Polka (Hololive)
>11,400: Noel (Hololive)
>11,376: Bae (Hololive)

Reminder that the SCs, merch money, sponsorship money and convention money are used by Cover to fund HoloStars. That's why they get better 3D tech despite being borderline 2view

>dropping tempiss2 while CGDCT kino is on
disrespectful

>>40171123
Omega is dead, if not by management then by our hands soon.

What if it's actually EN3 but they had homos do the cringy lore teaser instead of Council?

>>40171106
New friends, under the Tempus brand
So not a new gen, not a vsinger either
It's mascots imo

>>40170993
Vsinger makes no sense when half of the proper Gen were hired largely off their status as musician wannabes.

>>40171123
i wish his model has huge boobs and never hide them

...what if tempus is getting 3D before the girls?

>Final 100k+ stream for 2022 tally
1. Hololive – 35 (26)
1. Nijisanji - 34 (14)
Results: Hololive

Monthly Summary
>January: Holo (1 - 0)
>February: Tie (1 - 1)
>March: Holo (4 - 0)
>April: Holo (2 - 0)
>May: Niji (2 - 4)
>June: Holo (6 - 4)
>July: Niji (2 - 5)
>August: Niji (3 - 10)
>September: Holo (1 - 0)
>October: Niji (1 - 3)
>November: Holo (7 - 1)
>December: Niji (5 – 6)

An all-female pair gen tied to Tempus is the absolute most hilariously awful idea possible. So I’m gonna guess it’s that.

so, the only reason they "gave" Council new outfits was so >we wouldn't complain over preferential treatment for StarsEN right?
what other reason they would have to half-ass release them?

What if..Yugo in StarsEN? Coud they be the EN's Luna?

HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHA HOLOCEL STATUS?

>>40171086
Work on your grammar. Also don't post polls with chat on because people will spam dox and you will get banned.

I hate this

They had to drop this load of horseshit in the middle of a Faumei offcollab. My night is ruined.

What if this is a graduation announcement?

Hololive EN 11 members
>Jan: 3,626,369 (585.5hrs, 215 streams)
>Feb: 3,021,167 (439.3hrs, 146 streams, 6,878 avg)
>Mar: 4,907,065 (615.4hrs, 180 streams, 7,974 avg)
>Apr: 3,886,364 (529.2hrs, 177 streams, 7,344 avg)
>May: 3,386,966 (464.8hrs, 158 streams, 7,288 avg)
>Jun: 3,293,675
>Jul: 4,066,096
>Aug: 3,930,035 (526.1hrs, 165 streams, 7,471 avg)
>Sep: 3,340,198 (491.3hrs, 157 streams, 6,798 avg)
>Oct: 3,446,635 (507hrs, 159 streams, 6,798 avg)
>Nov: 2,728,747 (478.1hrs, 132 streams, 5,707 avg)
>Dec: 2,318,190 (375.4hrs, 121 streams, 6,175 avg)

>total: 41,951,507

Nijisanji EN 32 members
>Jan: 3,174,294 (1,438.6hrs, 396 streams)
>Feb: 3,972,676 (1264.1hrs, 336 streams , 3,143 avg)
>Mar: 6,283,717 (1892.4hrs, 514 streams, 3,320 avg)
>Apr: 6,449,716 (1,983.9hrs, 503 streams, 3,251 avg)
>May: 5,661,308 (1,461.6hrs, 423 streams, 3,873 avg)
>Jun: 5,873,002
>Jul: 6,285,678
>Aug: 7,022,216 (1,935.1hrs, 585 streams, 3,629 avg)
>Sep: 5,285,293 (1,995.7hrs, 554 streams, 2,648 avg)
>Oct: 4,916,112 (2,106.3hrs, 519 streams, 2,334 avg)
>Nov: 3,695,275 (1,555.6hrs, 455 streams, 2,375 avg)
>Dec: 5,900,283 (2,141.2hrs, 633 streams, 2,756 avg)

>total: 64,519,570

>>40170988
If this is StarsEN2 I'll be oddly ok with it. If they pull this shit though and attach the new girls, that we have been waiting well over a year for, to Tempus, I will be beyond pissed.

>Coping it's not StarsEN2
It's not too late to get off the sinking ship and learn Japanese

>>40171159
Only thing letting me cope desu

>>40171177
0%
Their tweet tagged as #HoloTempus

>>40170993
thats right, vsinger would be stupid, but listen to this
what about TWO MALE VSINGERS now that's unheard of revolutionary and unity wholesome

>>40170993
well its not homo EN2, i fucking hope, since its tagged as holoTempus and not holoElysium

>>40171240
I wish it’s this, purely to see the shitshow that would follow

>>40171240
I'm excited

>>40171305
>new friends
>graduation
are you okey anon?

>>40170993
I think people are trolling, too, but Irys songs unironically do well enough to be profitable - which is what corpos or Cover care about. I'm pretty sure if this is a male VSinger, as long as his songs get 50-100k views after a month or two and 200-400 people buy his releases frequently he will be profitable, too.
You are just greatly underestimating the upkeep cost for a VSinger when they have to spend minimal on shilling him or her.

>>40171097
30k. Some of the novelty of being the first male gen will be gone.

>>40171177
That's worse, but they wouldn't use the hashtag if that were the case. The voiceover undoubtedly refers to new members, or mascots if I wanna cope, but there's no way they'd do two gens in seven months.

>>40171322
Japan has 3 generations of Homos. It's worse over there.

>>40171370
new friends for sana

>ENsharts in shambles
Feels good to be JPchad

GRIMchads eating fucking good tonight

GRIM

>>40171240
That would be miles better than more males.

>>40171240
silently hoping for this so I can leave this shit for good
that would save me at least 50 burgerbux a month

>>40171414
kek. granted.

thank god I watch HoloJP

>>40171226
What does that have to do with "friends"?

Number of streams over 100k
>11x :: pekora
>8x :: marine
>7x :: hololive
>6x :: miko
>4x :: coco, chloe
>3x :: gura, laplus, lui, iroha
>2x :: rushia, noel, aqua, koyori, ayame, suisei, subaru
>1x :: nene, lamy, calliope, kanata, amelia, botan, shion, watame, towa

Here is the list
>491342 :: 2021-07-01 :: Coco Graduation (coco)
>201571 :: 2022-08-31 :: HoloSummer Climax Live (hololive)
>200666 :: 2022-12-31 :: Hololive Countdown Live 2022 > 2023
>194140 :: 2021-05-07 :: Gura Costume reveal (gura)
>187392 :: 2021-12-19 :: Pekora 2nd Costume reveal (pekora)
>180499 :: 2021-11-28 :: Koyori debut (koyori)
>176697 :: 2021-11-29 :: Chloe debut (chloe)
>175823 :: 2021-11-30 :: Iroha debut (iroha)
178006 :: 2023-01-02 :: Pekomon Metronome Tourney (pekora)
>167584 :: 2021-11-26 :: La+ debut (laplus)
>167199 :: 2022-11-03 :: Showa songs 3D (marine)
>157990 :: 2022-23-02 :: Gen 3 Rushia termination (pekora)
>147899 :: 2022-11-04 :: 3D Return Annoucement (suisei)
>149755 :: 2021-11-27 :: Lui debut (lui)
>147337 :: 2022-03-31 :: Suisei 3D Birthday (suisei)
>145761 :: 2022-07-30 :: Marine 3D Birthday (marine)
>145305 :: 2020-10-21 :: Miko 3D Return (miko)
>144367 :: 2022-06-27 :: Laplus 3D debut (laplus)
142,855 :: 2023-01-01 :: All Humanity Pekofication Plan (hololive)
>142791 :: 2022-07-17 :: Pekora 3rd Anniversary (pekora)
141898 :: 2022-12-31 :: Yuku Holo Kuru 2022 2023 (hololive)
>140116 :: 2020-10-21 :: Noel Costume reveal (noel)
>139393 :: 2021-07-03 :: Marine 1M Gen3 3DLive (marine)
>137900 :: 2020-10-18 :: Marine Costume reveal (marine)
>137795 :: 2022-06-13 :: Chloe 3D debut (chloe)
>136102 :: 2022-01-12 :: Pekora 3rd Birthday Live (pekora)
>136068 :: 2021-07-29 :: Marine 2nd Costume reveal (marine)
>135527 :: 2021-05-03 :: Mori Costume reveal (calliope)
>134642 :: 2022-11-06 :: FGO Morgan Gacha (pekora)
>129528 :: 2020-12-13 :: Pekora Pekomama debut (pekora)
>126480 :: 2021-05-27 :: Subaru Costume reveal (subaru)
>125917 :: 2022-03-05 :: Miko Birthday Live #4 (miko)
>124627 :: 2022-06-09 :: Iroha 3D debut (iroha)
>124596 :: 2021-07-30 :: Marine Birthday Live (marine)
>123926 :: 2020-12-31 :: Hololive New Year's Eve (hololive)
>120152 :: 2022-04-17 :: StartEnd Aqua Apex POV (aqua)
>119493 :: 2020-11-13 :: Gura 2nd Karaoke (gura)
>119225 :: 2022-12-03 :: 2 Million Special 3D (pekora)
>119056 :: 2022-04-27 :: Marine Departure Song’s 3D Concert (marine)
>118912 :: 2021-09-30 :: Coco Freechat Goodbye (coco)
>118899 :: 2022-09-03 :: Ayame 4th Anniversary (ayame)
>114775 :: 2022-08-01 :: Miko 4th Anniversary (miko)
>113092 :: 2020-08-14 :: Botan Hololive debut (botan)
112194 :: 2022-12-24 :: Sister Marine Christmas Confessions (marine)
>112093 :: 2021-12-11 :: Gura 2nd Costume reveal (gura)
>111501 :: 2022-05-28 :: Miko 3D Costume reveal (miko)
>111367 :: 2021-01-31 :: Nene Costume reveal (nene)
>110897 :: 2022-11-20 :: Subaru 4th Anniversary (subaru)
>110297 :: 2022-11-27 :: Lui 1st Anniversary 3D (lui)
>110226 :: 2022-12-17 :: New Masked Outfit (pekora)
>110076 :: 2022-05-27 :: Miko WWE Collab (miko)
>109860 :: 2020-11-08 :: Rushia Gen3 Smashbros (rushia)
>109792 :: 2021-05-02 :: Ayame Costume reveal (ayame)
>109528 :: 2020-07-05 :: Kanata 3D debut (kanata)
>108689 :: 2020-06-27 :: Coco 3D debut (coco)
>108611 :: 2021-11-30 :: HoloX first full collab (laplus)
>108004 :: 2021-07-18 :: Rushia 2nd anniversary (rushia)
>107442 :: 2022-10-10 :: Sportfest 22 Planning (miko)
>107423 :: 2022-03-20 :: Holo Fes Day 2 (hololive)
>107020 :: 2021-06-23 :: Coco Costume reveal (coco)
>106051 :: 2022-11-29 :: Chloe 1st Anniversary 3D (chloe)
>105791 :: 2022-06-13 :: Badthroat Return Stream (pekora)
>105756 :: 2022-03-19 :: Holo Fes Day 1 (hololive)
>105716 :: 2020-07-12 :: Watame 3D debut (watame)
>104909 :: 2022-06-16 :: Koyori 3D debut (koyori)
>104748 :: 2022-11-30 :: Iroha 1st Anniversary 3D (iroha)
>103408 :: 2020-08-12 :: Lamy Hololive debut (lamy)
>103020 :: 2022:08:08 :: Towa 3D Birthday (towa)
>101868 :: 2021-10-04 :: Noel 2nd Costume reveal (noel)
>101843 :: 2021-05-07 :: Amelia Costume reveal (amelia)
>101171 :: 2020-11-15 :: Shion Costume reveal (shion)
>100751 :: 2022-06-21 :: Lui 3D debut (lui)
>100436 :: 2021-05-09 :: Aqua 2nd 3DLive (aqua)
*pekora metronome tournament (~120k); hololive nye 2022 (~120k); chloe ny costume (~100k); also likely got over 100k, but were fucked by the ny omicron ccvid bullshit (max estimations on parentheses). Maybe gura ny outfit too, but there were no estimations.
*z peaks removed

>>40171240
How about mix gen of four female support class members and one hero class male. The girls raid every stream of his and mandatory collab with at least one girl every week.

>>40171323
>EN3 is gonna have their lore tied to into the Stars lore, making them attached forever
I can see this happening

>>40171433
>getting a new gen
>in shambles
your shitpost doesnt even make sense retard

>>40171322
It is, in fact, too late to learn Japanese. I don't have time between work and college.
I also wouldn't abandon the rat, the owl, or the kirin.

>Put the wrong time
sasuga self sabotage EN management

>>40171446
remember that magni cancelled his streams for the weekend

So uh, in a sudden turn of events, heres the Jan 2023 calendar..?

>>40171446
this completes the puzzle, they are releasing new stars members to fill january slots

>>40171343
>Retard management loves lore shit
>"Tempus" is the guild
>New friends
>New friends join the guild
>Friends are now part of the guild
It's a new gen anon. This is genuinly the final yab.

>>40171500
you are getting new flops

>JP went full kino with medley, tournament, and 3D CGDCT
>EN went full faggot

>>40171258
Yugo is a crappy streamer that can barely speak English, is a giant menhera, and has a shit work ethic. Highly doubtful.

They had to drop this shit on Race Week? Fucking Race Week?!

>>40171592
JP forced Homos into the New Year's concert. They are no better.

I actually think this is great. If they aren't going to entertain me by releasing new girls, having events, or keeping Gura happy, at least they can entertain me by becoming the company equivalent of a lolcow

>>40171640
And made it awkward for everyone watching the watchalong kek

>>40171576
What if it's FBK and her clones joining Tempus?

Somehow now Im glad the EN market is dying

>>40171343
>expecting EN management to be competent enough to put the right hashtag

It's gonna be a fun couple of days here huh

What if Tempus 2 is Pomu, Pippa, Selen, and Oceane?

>>40171640
Kek, Yagoo is trying really hard to make Stars a thing.

ENBROS
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED??

I want neither JP7 nor EN3 this month now. It'd be too close to a stars debut.

>>40171539
>Announcement set for Jan 4th
>After Ame's birthday the weekend is completely free
it's over

My prediction for 2023 is coming true gais, its more cuckening and tempiss

Would you guys prefer more males in Tempus or more females in Tempus? You have to pick one.

>>40171576
The only cope that is possible is mascots. I hate en management so fucking much. What are they doing and how is this allowed by jp?

>What if we doubled down?

>>40170846
oh, that would be glorious
imagine after homoen2 debut, we had to wait for a couple of months expecting they gonna release en3
and then they announced it will be tempusID instead

maybe a 6 month celebration mascots, I know hard cope

>>40171757
Tempus was such a smashing success we're already getting starsEN2!

I did say StarsEN2 in February but turns out I was off by a month.

Prepare for Mixed Gen Holobroni

>>40171809
Mixed

>>40171640
JP fanbase generally doesn't support male faggotry while EN fanbase does, that's the difference. They know they'll get no backlash from EN so they'll accelerate the merging of males and females as much as they can.

>>40171806
>its more shit numbers

>>40171794
Bro.....

>>40171832
By that logic Council was a flop and that's why we don't have EN3

>>40171798
Ame birthday will be filled with tempiss

>>40171386
>there's no way they'd do two gens in seven months

What the fuck happened to holoEN? How did it all go so wrong?

>>40171809
I want no new members in Tempus and hope that all the homos take the hint and quit.

Do actual idol companies force their male idols too like this?

>>40171751
switch Oceane for Nene and we good

>>40171491
Sounds like absolutely optimal fap fuel for NTRchads and CuckKINGS

this was enough to convince cover that homo is the way

>>40171794
If it ever comes, it'll be sooner than I think.

>>40171818
A-chan retweeted it. This direction obviously comes from the very top. Stop putting JP on a pedestal.

Welcome to the club holobros hopefully you guys don't have as bad as we do. I wish I could go back in time to the better days of just girls but good luck it sucks it happened to you guys also.

>>40171809
Females. There's at least a chance they'll be good. More males are irrelevant since I'll never watch them.

Thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNxHJN-fKSI

>>40171539
Think they'll debut someone on Ame's birthday?

what the fuck is wrong with kiara's fanbase

>>40171860
But there are. Seriously the dive in ccv and the death of the reddit is not enough?

>>40171921
I was gonna write Nene but I figured everyone would be confused with the real Nene if I did.

Gura is fucking dead and they aren't even concerned with filling the massive void that she left. 8 males in the EN branch? I actually feel sick.....

>There are too many Holos I can't watch them all and don't want more stop asking they should stop debuting new talents you're ungrateful if you disagree
>New friends(male) are always welcome!

>>40172001
they like listening to her talk, not play games. are you retarded?

>>40171879
Well, depends on your frames of reference, I guess?
Tempus is definitely way more successful than their predecessors (StarsJP), so they can be considered a success
Council isn't as successful as their predecessors (Myth), so they can't be considered a full success. Heck, 1 of their members already graduated and another seems to be pretty questionable now

>>40172011
What dive?

>>40171985
sherlock holmes is public domain now, they will make him a tempus member and they can share a birthday too

>>40172001
>vtuber fans vote for option that vtuber is railroading them toward with their wording
How new?

There is also some cope here just because they are using the Tempus tag.

Remember how the freaking main channel used Tempus before finally getting renamed to Holostars. How insistent is Uproar at getting called Uproar instead of merely using Stars? Cover has been trying to create a more popular brand name since Stars is basically brand poison and Tempus is basically now what people would rather click over Stars hell even "Holopro" is a name association that they would rather be known for.

>>40171944
A-chan, Nodoka and managers are sluts for Axel. Do you think they will try to piss Tempus off?

>>40172001
>"Hey guys I'm fucking dying and I have like 10 streams of SC pending, I really don't want to play STS but yesterday I promised you I would play it tomorrow, so I'm giving you the chance to choose"
>Her fanbase cares about her, took the hint and voted for SC

>>40171860
>while the EN fanbase does

>>40171663
That's an understatement. I was watching Chloe.

>>40172001
Look, anon, not everyone give a fuck about numbers. Sure, SC reading might get low CCV, but listening to her talking about various shit is more interesting for me than watching her playing games

>>40171433
>JP already has three gens of homos
>Most recent JP gen is homos
>JP girls need to follow the no overlap rules for debuts/3Ds
>Homos were in the New Year live with the girls
Is it really any better there? Doesn't seem like it to me.

>>40171826
>tempusID
Nobody want this

>>40172011
That's not a backlash, a backlash is what happens when enough people bitch loud enough for management to make Gura tweet.

>>40172175
Kobo does.

>>40172068
tempiss is aiming at luxiem, not starsjp

Even if they knew Tempus didn't do as well as they expected, they probably were unable to stop this. In motion like a rolling boulder

>>40172175
Twitter and Reddit does. I have faith they'll tune in

>mixed gens
>impromptu male collabs
>hotel off collab orgies
>cooking (cucking) off collabs
The future is looking bright!

Be honest, why would anyone want to invest more and more into a branch that's not even doing half as well as the other one??

>>40171947
The early days of Lazulight were beautiful, until the fish whore Finana basically cursed the future of the entire branch with her whore behavior.

So akai haato-san was right?

>>40172202
Chinese cannot watch Hololive.

>>40172227
can't wait for regis/axel horserace with aruran soon

>>40172077
>>40172147

>>40172031
this is why west can't have nice things.

>>40172068
Tempus is a response to Luxnoc and idk why people compare them to JPStars

It's going to be funny when Yagoo finally forces HoloJP to interact with StarsJP. Could that finally break Yagoo's godlike image?

I wonder which Tempus is going to get to hold a Holo's hand on cam first

>>40172242
Brute force.

>>40172175
finally, i can go full schizo on my domestic market

>>40172242
they want to get fired

>>40172200
Well, she's a whore

>>40172296
That's literally because both Gura and Ina fucking died

>>40172147
You're implying Cover cares about CCV. They don't, as long as people SC and buy merch. If they could sacrifice half of holoJP's CCV to debut 5 male gens that each made as much as Tempus they'd do it in a flash.

>EN getting crumbs for months
>fanbase expecting something good soon after such a long drought
>gets more homos
i am unironically losing hope, i need some good news soon or i'm going schizo

I forgot their guild jobs was it
Leader: blue guy
Alchemist: fagni
BDSM Slut: dog
Vampire (??): redditman

So they're missing:
mage, healer, archer, tank

>>40172209
What's even scarier is that they almost certainly did better than expected.

>>40171809
>more males in Tempus
First off, no. Secondly, why cant the new group just be their own thing?
>or more females in Tempus
A mixed gen? Hell no

I think we all agree just a standard 5th member and then EN3 sometime in Feb is the best case scenario for us cgdct chads. If it's a new gen it's gonna push back EN3 even further and if it's new girls they're gonna have free reign to collab every day.

>>40171860
The investors care if a previously profitable branch suddenly drops in value.

>>40171809
not a single female would be good
imagine a bitch that is a bigger whore than kronii and bae that would contractually sign to debut with other males
it doesn't matter what the /mans/isters tell you, it's all grim

>>40172202
They aren't aiming at Luxiem's audience and there has been minimal to no indication that that is the case.

>>40172334
Godspeed anon

>>40172395
What investors?

>>40172175
I heard some people from /warkop/ want this, not because they want to watch maleID, but they want to get in to fuck HoloID

>>40172334
>going full schizo
What does anon mean by this?

>>40172192
Seems like a lot of the fans just silently peaced out rather than raise a ruckus.

NotSalami 40k
>picrel
kek

>>40172395
EN hasn't dropped in value though, going by how ENfans still proudly tout their popularity and merch sales.

>>40171957
As if you or I would watch a female member of a stars gen.

If everyone knows that you can't force holo viewers to watch the homos and the massive CCV gaps between the branches reflect that, why does Cover keep trying to convert them? Why is Cover unwilling to take the same risks finding the real strategy and the real audience for homos the same way they had to start from nothing being a literal who company with 2view talents when it was just Hololive?

>>40172345
It was happening before their break and around tempiss announcement.

>>40172175
give us SEAmonkey man

>>40172418
Which is why they announced male auditions right after Noctyx dropped, right?

>>40171860
There will definitely be backlash if we get HomoEN2 before EN3.

>>40171794
haha....

A new male gen, huh? Even with these results?

>>40172359
Magni's a hybrid healer/support. Axel is DPS. Altare is a hybrid tank, like a Paladin. Vesper is a caster.

thank god bae wasn't there to ruin faumei kino today

This thread has never given Tempus full credit for their success They've literally kept HoloEN alive while their senpai and mentor Gawr Gura has been resting

AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH NEW GUILDMATES CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!

>STARS ID
eew

Can I cancel unshipped merch from the holostore. Asking for a friend

>>40172200
And moona too, she wants to send her brother to holostars

>>40172474
>Meloco 40k
EN Gold?

>>40172507
even better, HoloStars ID

>>40172507
Really?

>>40171301
It's Faumei's fault for overlapping the announcement. The dropped it on the hour and all streams should fit within hour timeboxes.

>>40172539
Don’t watch Bae, what’s wrong with her?

>>40172543
meds

>>40172474
Won't even make a dent in the tally, tomorrow is that crazy. Also Kuzuha is in that collab so that's like 90% of the audience.

>>40172489
homos believe if they can build up a male audience then eventually women will join afterwards
There was a clip where astel and rikka were talking about this

>>40172464
he will unleash his full potential

Peko doing Gacha same time as off collab

>>40172447
I want it so when they do an offcollab, I could report them to the police
https://youtu.be/sa7y2f1TA_0

>>40172288
>soon
anon you don't understand
tempus already IS a successful branch relative to starsJP, barely

>>40172359
is dwarf a job? I'd watch a dwarfbro

Kinda funny how, aside from baits, no one is blaming Yagoo for his HoloStars push at all. That man can do no wrong.

>>40172489
Because there's no chance of growth at this point.
If people think that somehow you're still able to "catch" an audience then you're retarded.
And the fact that the nye stream and the big summer concert that had 4-6 months in between had practically the same peak shows that

>>40172631
Peko is going to destroy the off collab numbers

>>40172447
>warkop
Well no wonder. it's a thread for indie/here/niggers and their irrelevant dramas
There are barely any fan-posting in that thread. That thread will be dead if it wasn't for Holofags bumping it

>>40172359
Imagine this in Tempus2
I'm gonna feel super fucking bad for any gachikois who fall in love with one of these new Tempus girls.

What if it's Stars KR or ES?

alright boys, it's going to be 1 marksman, 2 tank, and 1 priest

>>40172379
>Worst case scenario
The new "friends" being the new gen of girls attached to Tempus
>Neutral scenario
The "new friends" being an entire gen so basically StarsEN2
>Best case scenario
This being the missing 5th member of Tempus only with the actual EN3 of girls still coming down the pipeline in a month or so

>>40171826
>announce ID
>on the EN account|
brilliant

>>40172651
He’s the very guy that brought you the oshis you love.

>>40172292
UPDATE
Not new outfits or anything they would tell the current talents about. Those rrats are dead.

>>40172474
finally

>>40172610
well i guess every company has an end date.

No concerts in US no 3D showcases, no lives other than Calli who was in JP and Gura who literally had to do a scuffed ass live 1st for them to give it to her. If they actually gave us shit instead of just fucking meet and greet this wouldnt be a problem. Fuck off its been 2 FUCKING YEARS!?

>>40172651
you cant blame a retard for his own actions

Axel doesn't know what it is
Female Guild Gen?

>>40172175
no one fucking wanted tempus in the first place

>>40172651
>aside from baits
Such as your post?

>>40172714
Best case scenario is this being mascots, though it's a lot of effort to advertise mascots.

>>40172729
Imagine telling Axel about anything. That guy cannot keep a secret

>>40172729
>>40172768
Or he could be fucking lying. The girls have done it plenty of times.

>>40172631
based, kill EN for good
EN only attracts tranny twitter tourism parasites

>>40171446
EN 3, an all female, gachi friendly gen is debuting on the week of the 16th.
That's why most of EN is in Japan, they wanted to meet their new cute kouhais.
Please, I beg you, grudgepost the fuck out of me when I'm right.

>>40172729
I think management figured out to not tell him shit cause he will leak it.

>>40172729
You believe Axel doesn't know what it is?

>>40172775

jwu, it's over isn't it
fucking hell

>>40172651
It’s been established that management is split between JP, ID, and EN with them being able to do whatever they want

>>40172489
yagoo is an im@s chad and a sideM enjoyer

just kill holoEN

>>40172729
Seems like Magni doesn't know also. He cancelled his weekend streams.

>>40172824
go back to sleep anon

>>40171944
A-chan always retweeted EN stuff

>>40172729
It's a holoAlt manga but for Tempus which doesn't need their input.

>>40172729
>believing the retard

>>40172729
oookay? if they go by the comic lore, then it could be a 5th member they """forgot""" about
also
>>>>Axel
>>>>telling him internal company secrets

They really are trying to be NijiEN

>>40172785
I mean, Fauna's 3 part Holoween series had people wondering if it was a new gen tease.

>>40171513
That's the thing though. Surely they know there's a level outspoken anxiety about favouritism towards the guys if T-Chan bothered writing anything. Surely they noticed the "you never did half of this for the girls" that's been constantly leaking out of containment for months now. Or the goddamn constant culture wars after the collab ban lifted. Even this dumbass >>40172031 has to acknowledge that announcing StarsEN2 would start another shitstorm.

This year has been a rollercoaster

>>40172729
Yep, it's starsEN2.
Fuckign hell cover.

>>40172631
BASED BASED BASED BASED PEKO

>>40172599
nta and I don't particularly dislike Bae but she's just not on the same exact wavelength as Mumei and Fauna so sometimes she can miss their jokes or references or do a bit that falls flat with the others

>>40172686
MONA SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>40172775
The niji sisters who spend their whole existance on reddit and twitter did.

JWU, are we seething or have we given up entirely?

What if...Tempus female models? They've teasing that a lot too

>>40172889
And we're only on day 2!

Is this how antis feel?

>Aster is sub Scarle and Aia CCV

>>40172881
Yeah even Fauna got annoyed that they overhyped it.

I told you there is a Niji mole in the EN management
Nijification

>>40172500
If they were aiming at Luxiem or Noctyx's audience, they'd have streamed during CN / Asian hours. None of them bar Regis and very occasionally, Axel, does that.
If they wanted Luxiem or Noctyx's audience, they'd have pandered hard to fangirls, Chinese or not. Again, most of them (except Magni) don't do that.
Just because they announced their auditions after Noctyx was dropped (I'm too lazy to verify this claim, but I will assume you were speaking the truth) doesn't mean they are meant to target Noctyx / Luxiem's audience. You'd be as delusional as Fulgur "Cover is afraid" Covid to think so even after all Tempus have done over last few months.

>A Girl Gen of Guild Tempus
How would we feel about that

my cute wife

>>40172952
>nijis keep flopping
nothing new here

>>40172848
Wouldn't magni cancelling his streams mean he probably does know what it is?

>>40172921
Learning Japanese.

>>40172934
Like just meme models like Walfie stuff? That would be just whatever, wouldn't care one way or the other and wouldn't be worth 2 days of seething here.

>>40172889
>This year
>2 days in
G R I M

>>40172651
Who even is in charge of Stars now? Didn't Shinove resign?

>>40173000
your cute wife was very cute today

>>40172714
I really think it's just the 5th member of Tempus. Tempus has been hinting at a 5th member since debut. They don't mention another Gen and just mention Tempus. It's the 5th member.

tempus 6 six month anniversary

will we have this kind of stream?

>>40172921
If it's a new gen of homos or EN3 attached to the hip with Tempus, then it's unironically over. The sisters can doompost all they fucking want if it's either of that.

>>40172998
Disgusted

>>40173007
they can tell him something is dropping those days
kinda like Fauna that one time

>>40172631
Why no JP and ID1 off collab

>>40172242
I guess their logic is the girls are already doing well, so they want to make their males successful as well to dominate the market.
But they're doing it in the worst way possible and it will only make them recline even more.

>>40173000
Our wife was VERY cute and silly today anon

>>40172998
>Girls who debuted just to prop up Tempiss
not watching any of that

>>40172729
I mean if we take it at face value then it's confirmed not a new gen either because we know new gens all spend time in discord with thekr senpais for months before debut

*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY *

>1/2 DAILY TALLY
15,692: Vox (Nijisanji)
11,376: Baelz (Hololive)
6,420: IRyS (Hololive)
6,405: Kronii (Hololive)
5,372: Sonny (Nijisanji)

>EN GOLD FOR JANUARY 2023
1. Amelia (Hololive) - 19,255 (New Years Countdown and Karaoke)
2. Vox (Nijisanji) - 15,692 (Clubhouse Games w/Mysta)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 1
Nijisanji - 1
Others - 0

>GOLD PER STREAMER
1x: Amelia, Vox

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
6x: Vox
5x: Amelia
3x: Fauna, Baelz
1x: IryS

>>40173015
This but unironically. Load up those Cure Dolly videos bros, it's a long but fulfilling journey.

>>40171757
Cover saw the dollar signs from Luxiem and they think they can find fujos somewhere.
They also realized that maintaining their current talent pool is a pain in the ass, because some of them are not even pretending to give a fuck, Mori admitted to doing fucking lean on Twitter and they've had multiple fanbase sperg outs, and most of them don't stream when permissions guy can actually vet anything.
I hate it. I want the girls to be successful, but I just see a comedy of errors on errors, now mixed in with current western political issues.

>>40173007
If the other 2 don't cancel probably not, maybe his back is just still fucked and he needs an excuse to rest some.

>>40173056
If Omega wills it. And you better watch!

>>40172607
crazy how last year was only 17k and had kenmochi

>>40173000
tempiss is gonna be on her birthday, prepare for it

>>40172242
Cover is a private company their decisions aren't guided by anything other than "What Yagoo wants"

MORI 5K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>40172948
>havent gave shit to anyone other than Calli and thats because of her universal contract
>only did gura's live (cut in half and with no merch) because gura said fuck you and did a scuffed ass one of her own
>We will only get meet and greet #25
>no showcases
>no lives
>no IRL lives to attend like the Japs
Whats the point anymore......

I'm genuinely curious to see what a Niji gen with professionals would look like

>>40173090
>new gens all spend time in discord with thekr senpais for months before debut
Is this an EN only thing? Weird decision to make.

>>40173144
that's Mumei blindchama

>>40173053
This

They are going to find their missing 5th member on their 6 month anniversary. The missing 5th member has been something talked about since debut.

>>40172998
>unironically homo accessories
roru

>>40171809
Males in Tempus. I want the biggest wall possible between Tempus and HoloEN.

>only read threads from this mornigto see "pekora won lol"
>come back at night
>Possible another Holostars debut
im actually fucking tired and drained mentally from reading, and the last thing i hear is this shit? i can't.

>>40173165
wrong timeline

>>40173165
It exists its called Niji Gamers and was NijiJPs greatest gen.

>>40172998
Disgusted, would unironically ruin the new girls for me right from the start.

>>40172031
They're so smugly hypocritical. Reminds me of the Sartre's line

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

After 2 hours and 2 separate Faumei funnels, Mori finally manages to get into the cripple tally.

>>40173148
Doesn't seem so seeing that Yagoo definitely didn't want to kick Rusher out...

>>40173165
What even counts as a "professional" in regards to vtubing?

>>40173090
That'd have to be an EN only thing, the other branches don't know shit. JP Stars notably weren't told they were getting any kouhai or anything, even Shinove wasn't told, completely kept in the dark.

>>40173241
I mean Fauna came and took the first funnel back.

>>40172242
I know right. Why would they invest in EN?

>>40173154
Now that you said that... its even worse, isn't it?

>stagnating already
yeah, this shit is not getting in the podium

>>40172948
Does this accurately describe your current mood?

>>40172610
Do you have a link to that clip or remember approximately what the title was?

I
FUCKING
TOLD
(YOU)
SO
t. GRIMgang

>>40173278
Not constantly talking about sex
Not constantly flirting with coworkers
Not acting like high schoolers

>>40173090
omega debut

why do every tweets must be so vague?

>>40173071
There is some logic to that, shore up your weakness to have a more solid foundation. But you are right, they are killing holoen with this move and It will reach jp as well like with the countdown.

>Tempus 6 months anniversary
>Mascots, merchs, and celebration stream
I believe it's not EN3.

>>40173007
>magni canceling streams
he has other plans yknow
https://twitter.com/magnidezmond/status/1603191689920753664

>>40172001
who the fuck wants to watch slay the spire?

GRIMchads, I kneel.

>>40173203
It's unlikely to be a full gen debut at least

>>40173258
Yagoo just wanted her gone more than he wanted to keep an NDA breaker on the payroll. He can say he wanted her to stay all he wants but if he really truly was committed to keeping her she'd still be there.

>>40173258
Honestly? Just don’t bring your personal feeling into the job and let it affect your performance, like every job out there
Kronii is head over heel for Vesper yeah, ok. But she let it consume her like and affect her work, that is unprofessional

>>40172610
It's not a hopeless strategy but the important detail is that the initial male audience can't be leeched from Hololive. That demographic has no interest in Stars and never will. Brute forcing Stars as a genderflipped Hololive has always been a mistake: the idol theming and content doesn't appeal to male viewers, and the streaming (especially streaming video games) format makes Stars invisible to women. I don't understand why Cover hasn't learned their lesson after failing for several years.

>>40173387
honestly, based groomer.

>>40173373
they are trying to create hype but people is so done with EN

What if Gura went on hiatus because she knew this was coming and didn't want to interact with the new Tempus girls

Why are people so butthurt about Tempus
the very few male female collabs they've had got good numbers (Kroni and Vesp help stand and Worms tourney)

Remember when Kiara said Omega is sleeping. Now he will wake up

>>40172889
for the EN fans, when does it start going up?

>>40173387
jesas

I would laugh if these "new friends" are actually 6-month plushies, like you know, Myth

without shitposting, what is the best case scenario?

Kek some sisters on Twitter think its a 5th member and it's Yugo

NO EN3 until one of council/irys reach 1M subs.

>>40173387
You’ve been in less than a year

>>40173438
I don't know, I'm enjoying this off collab arc. Tempus literally just doesn't exist to me and I've been getting cute girl interactions the entire time.

>>40173458
This>>40173454

>>40173458
this
>>40173454

>>40173458
tempus graduation

>>40173438
it's a long way down old chap

>>40173358
That's just Rosemi.

>>40173424
more low shit numbers are not welcome

>>40173165
Really awkward and bad since if they really were professionals they want to avoid the others who act like the exact opposite. They'd have to constantly dodge around collabs and people asking them why they aren't collabing or talking about X or Y. That's why the first few gens of a branch are insanely important for these kinds of things.

>>40173464
kek

>>40173300
Nope. Mori practically didn't dip below 4k after getting the first funnel.

>>40173458
Merch

>>40173387
this nigga is fucking gone asap LMAO

>>40173403
The 50+ years old guy cried openly in front of a bunch of women and girls, and said he didn't want to do that. Unless Yagoo is a really good actor, I'm inclined to believe he didn't want to kick the menhera out

>>40173458
The only mascot I’ve seen was Magni’s and it was one he drew himself

>>40173298
Iirc Mio hung out with Holo X for a while before their debut.

>>40173458
friends for sana

>>40173387
I'm guessing this is another one of those super clever dox name switch jobs?

>>40173458
graduation

>>40173278
Streams regularly. Communicates schedule changes and absences. Prepares their stream setup, make sure games work beforehand and is ready to go on the dot. Resolves issues with their fanbase without condescension. Ignores outsider attempts to make drama. Doesn't bite bait superchats.

>>40172888
>Or the goddamn constant culture wars after the collab ban lifted.
This is the part I don't get.
The only explanation I could see is that Cover wants to IPO and some overpaid consultant fuck told them they would blacklisted (which is a bad word now by the way) from ESG portfolios unless they put up a gender equitable image.
In any other circumstance, stirring the fucking gender war pot doesn't make sense, because it's not where their money is made.
We want Minecraft with dorky anime women that we can connect with, not the shit that's already on every news network for hours on end. I superchat my oshi to tell her she's funny today, not because I want to practice undergrad debate club with /pol/ fucks.

>>40173387
wtf I opened the link but this isn’t magni’s twitter?

>>40173458
Yugo joins Tempus

>>40173458
Anniversary merch.

>>40173534
Source?

>>40173552
wTF!!?!?!11!!!

>>40173424
because they point the branch to a diffrent path that isnt holoJP. I wanted HoloJP experience in english not something completely diffrent.
>muh 30k tempuss streams will all the nijifans watching
where are they now? The holoEN branch keeps on dying more and more. Gura graduating would unironiccally put them behind NijiEN and Vwhorjo at this point.....

>>40173386
It is most certainly not EN3 but all the usual shitters are going to doompost. I don't think it's costumes either since they specifically mention "new friends". Here are what I think it is and it is guaranteed to be one of these three. I bet my balls on it.

1. The missing 5th member of Tempus
2. Mascots
3. Tempus manager (most unlikely scenario)

CGDCT fans can rest easy. This isn't EN3 and it is in no way forcing anybody to collab with the girls. They already made their statement on that and even in the New Years concert the only ones who performed with the Stars were the girls who have already done collabs with them. Hololive will not force anybody to collab with anybody that they don't want to.

>>40173458
Mascots.

what if they add some established eceleb vtubers as temporary new guild members on shorter contracts, that can leave with no problems after a while

>>40173534
So it's either a cross branch rule or Stars EN really did just get purposefully excluded from knowing about or talking to their own kouhai.

>>40173387
holy fuck even a groomer den, making mori looking like an amateur.

>>40173458
1. mascot since I think they said they have 5 members
2. all female new gen

>>40173608
that's too retarded

GIVE ME MY GURA REPLACEMENT ALREADY. NOT NEW HOMOS
YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS

>>40172274
She said "3rd generation of hololive english"
So no

>>40173618
she is

>>40173595
>3. Tempus manager (most unlikely scenario)
Are you saying it's Tempus' Omega? Surely they know it's a fucking retarded idea after what happened with Omega.

>>40173547
What western vtuber in general adheres to all this criteria? Fauna?

>>40173458
Some retardedly small thing, like mascots, plushies, or some dumbass lore dump.

>>40173636
which means it's likely because this is EN management we are talking about

>>40173518
Dude you act like you have never heard someone say "I didn't want to do [X] but I HAD to"
Keeping Rushia is not the same thing as debuting more Homos. Keeping Rushia would have actually jeopardized sponsorship opportunities and other similar things cause no one would want to work with a company that goes to bat for a known NDA breaker. Debuting more Homos is retarded but it's not suicidal.

But this doesn't change the fact that if he really wanted to he could do it. There's nothing LEGALLY forcing him to fire Rushia or something.

>>40173672
Yeah, that is why I said it was the most unlikely scenario

I see the board is on fire again

>>40171229
Oh hey, the tally math finally got corrected?

>>40173328
https://youtu.be/JJR6Du64exc?t=25345

Why invest in more flops?

>>40173550
But the vtubers aren't employees their contractors. The company already employed both males and females.

>>40173663
I need context here. Did Haachama really say HoloEN3?

Don't forget to thank her for making EN happen, only for cover to fuck it up afterwards.

>>40173518
I think everyone in the business recognises that Rushia is terminally retarded and will die without some kind of supervision, so they feel bad for her even when she makes herself unemployable through her own ignorance.

how many hours from now on is this thing supposed to happen, I'm bad with time zones

>>40173387
You got me, good one.
Now abayo.

It's too soon to panic. The usual suspects like Bae, Ollie, and Mori haven't even retweeted it yet. It's a nothingburger until then.

This thread will be better if we just focus on the top instead of shitters that will get 1-2 gold their entire career

>>40172439
Cover's? You know private businesses have investors too, right? They just aren't publicly traded.

>>40173730
Same reason Niji does? It's cheap enough and one success every few rolls is all you need

how're you doing enbros?

every day, I'm impressed at how many newfags I see

>>40173458
a female companion for tempus so they don't have to ask myth and council to do a collab anymore

>>40172631
Aiming for towa 3d live funnel.

>>40173299
at least EN girls pull some exposure, somewhat ccv and merch sales. What has tempus achieved since their debuts?

It's kind of funny how a bunch of basement dwelling 3rd world numbermonkeys think they know how to run an agency as big as cover more than the people who run it themselves

>>40173811
overdosing on copium

>>40173773
I am burning all my cover merch as well we speak

>HER tweet was on October 4th
>New Homo thing will be announced on the 4th or January
>Myth, Council, Irys and Tempus = 4
>4-4-4
IT'S A SIGN IT'S A SIGN IT'S A SIGN IT'S A SIGN IT'S A SIGN IT'S A SIGN IT'S A SIGN IT'S A SIGN IT'S A SIGN IT'S A SIGN IT'S A SIGN IT'S A SIGN IT'S A SIGN IT'S A SIGN IT'S A SIGN IT'S A SIGN IT'S A SIGN IT'S A SIGN IT'S A SIGN IT'S A SIGN IT'S A SIGN IT'S A SIGN IT'S A SIGN IT'S A SIGN IT'S A SIGN

>>40173458
A stupid merch announcement.
Barring that, a 5th member.

>>40173550
>ESG
Go fucking back

>>40173797
>is cheap
but its not, at least for cover, they invest far more money in their talents

>>40173773
Bae is sick and Mori is streaming.

>>40173773
when was the last time they had a collab?

>>40173835
Own the unicorn

>>40173869
Bae isn't sick, she was sleeping. And she woke up 8 minutes ago
https://twitter.com/hakosbaelz/status/1610130603076386816

>>40173841
clearly they dont know either, EN branch at least, cause they lost more than 50% of their audience

>>40173547
>Resolves issues with their fanbase without condescension
This is surprisingly the hardest thing to find in EN streamers

>>40173863
Not really?

>>40173834
Wait for real? Damn lucky Towa, Pekora love her purple kouhais

>>40173797
but niji doesnt invest in their flops later down the road like Cover does. Imagine Niji not giving Voxx his daki that he will sell $500k worth of to instead produce merch for Aster. Its fucking laughable as a business decision but good for the fans of the lower members.

>>40173841
You're not wrong, but it's not like companies have never been mismanaged. Blockbuster is no longer with us, after all. Kodak to a lesser degree. No shortage of examples if we want to get into it

>>40173917
Their also pissing off a good portion of the girls audience with their homo dick sucking

>>40173965
In Cover, everyone gets the pie. Nijiseethe

>>40173841
The branch is dying, no EN could even get 20k ccv for Christmas or New years.

>>40173834
>>40172631
Suisei will also stream. All of them are 1st army so i don’t know who will win

>EN3

>>40173927
I mean just the custom merch is more investment than any anykara does for her chuubas

>>40173863
To an extent, but signs of EN investment have been... lacking. And I don't even like EN. They probably pay for the investment and maintenance within a year anyways with merch runs and memberships, etc

Great, now Cover interns-kun can use new homos to shit on nijishitters even with their mediocre numbers

>>40173675
Fauna has slight communication issues.

>>40173841
Pekora's monkey would do a better job than whoever is running EN.