/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>3887777
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>>3887777
WITNESSED

>>3887777
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>>3887777
Checked em and wrecked em

>>3887777
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W I T N E S S E D

>>3887777
Dayum, /asp/ look like THAT?

>>3887777
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>>3887777
Checksum

So I'm sort of lost on what to do next. I've got some comms being made for a reference sheet for my character, currently writing out lore for the eventual debut (although I'll be limited to starting out as a pngtuber for the time being.) Is it silly to start looking into possible designs for like stream layout and like? I kind of have an idea on the theme of the stream.

>>3889339
That's fine, but you'd probably do better sorting out what kind of content you'll be creating.

>>3889514
I have a couple of ideas actually going with my character theme, atleast early on, before I branch out what I'll be doing. Appreciate the advice nonetheless.

>>3887777
Hey what's going in this thre- oh my god

>>3889339
Practice streams are probably your number 1 thing. You don’t even have to stream them, you can just record them. Good for shaking off nerves and getting you comfortable with the idea of talking into a void. You might wanna wait until you have your concept sketch back before you start putting a lot of thought into the layout.

Asahi Super Dry gonna turn into the /asp/ beer of choice

>>3892809
Lucky for me, it's already my favorite beer

>>3892809
i'm more partial to sapporo when it comes to japanese beers but asahi isn't bad

how are you supposed to do a karaoke stream without getting copyright striked? i thought twitch didn't allowed it entirely

>>3878067
>>that pic
>wait... Armain? looks like they were right about vtubing being a retirement home for oldfags...
No, it's me. You must be attenborough, right? I knew there were a few of us here but I didn't expect to get called out.
You've probably guessed by now but digiflux and I were considering possibly making some rigs for some of the characters so we could do some vtube puppet show shenanagins for season 3 of you-know-what to kind of mix things up a bit.
As for Armain, well I actually haven't told him yet. His rendition of Otto kind of ended up being his de-facto "look" but Digi did want to take a crack at it and try and make it closer to his original concept. Since you're basically the target audience for this what do you think? Is it worth doing? I'm finally gonna have my hands free in a few days so I can try and see if I can get something up and running by June but I'm honestly not too sure how people would take this.

>>3895125
Twitch bans them, Youtube doesn't. You can get ContentID'd mid-stream but it doesn't seem to happen very often. If you just don't keep the VOD you should be safe.
I see a lot of cover channels that use original backing tracks, so saving the songs from your stream might not be as dangerous as it seems. IDK about all that though.

>>3895673
so is the answer just to suck it up and use youtube, knowing that your video's gonna be monetized by all of the record holders? i remember Meat from /wvt/ doing a karaoke stream and she has a copy of the stream on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTAnHNoon9w that has a ton of record holders placing a copyright claim on it (pic rel)

but somehow her video is still up? so what's going on with that?

>>3895772
>but somehow her video is still up? so what's going on with that?
They chose to keep the video up but collect ad revenue. I have no clue how it gets split between all of them though.

>>3895825
wait, does that mean if just one of them wants to force your video off, they can? i'm mostly asking because i can't be assed to figure out which record label is an ass about copyright and which ones are okay with leaving a video up on youtube. there's just too many of them.

>>3895845
>wait, does that mean if just one of them wants to force your video off, they can?
Yes. Also any of them can send a copyright strike where if you get 3 of them your channel gets terminated. Copyright claims are not copyright strikes.

>>3895992
so does that mean Meat just lucked the fuck out when 27 separate record holders for this specific song decided not to copyright strike her video?

I feel really terrible for frankensteining an avatar out of pieces from character makers, random art, and random clothes photos, but the DIY spirit and, for the most part, acute social anxiety is winning over the more rational choice of just commissioning an artist. I can only hope nobody notices that it's borderline stealing, but if they do I'll just go out in flames and disappear I guess.

>>3896042
record holders like free money as opposed to no money

what are the epic new memes for this thread? can someone let me know

>>3896221
People will absolutely notice and you're retarded for even considering that.

Do you think streaming art exclusively is a good vtuber option? Or would it be better to diversify and do games as well?

>>3896221
If you stick to royalty free art and character makers you should be fine. Otherwise >>3896560

>>3896560
Thanks for slapping some sense back into me, I'll scrap everything (and, well, probably won't try again, which is for the best).

If someone asks you something like "Would you join [company]" or maybe "Would you join a Vtuber company" and you actually do want to, should you answer them at all? Would that affect anything at all if you were to apply for said company?

>>3896675
While this is not an answer to your question, in the current climate it's probably for the best not to join any Vtuber company, at least if it's not one of the 2-3 biggest ones

>>3896675
I doubt expressing interest in a company is gonna be a black mark against you joining that company. Mentioning specific offers or how much money you make might affect your bargaining power if you make it to the contract stage, but just saying "I'd love to join Nijisanji!" probably won't be an issue.

https://youtu.be/DGNqVaiar9g
Please watch her, she doesn’t stream for too long and really loves her chat.
Also,this board needs more activity(shilling) for small ones, fuck this hololiver abomination, and fuck retards who spam same shit only to slide others.

Had a scuff-stream yesterday, now I'm onto greener greens! Which VN should I read?
>Ever 17
>Narcissu
>Planetarium
>Expression Amrilato (start Esperanto arc)

Eventually I'll do longer ones but starting out shorter is better.

>>3897960
I feel like as much as I love Narcissu it would be wild to read that on stream. Have you read it before?

>>3892809
I already drank some today don't call me out like this

>>3898010
It is the only I haven't read on that list, I am sorry to admit.

Where do babinikus fall on the vtm or vtf side of discussion and advice-seeking?

>>3898470
Into a ditch preferably.
Western babis are usually boring degenerates that are too openly horny and wear ahegao hoodies unironically

>>3899215
This. The only one of note I've found sounds like a girl so it cancels out. The rest though...

>>3898470
/vtm/ is generally faster and both males and females use it. I would say go there first and try asking around about /vtf/ on there. Best of luck!

>>3896221
> Social anxiety
> So socially anxious that can't even do such simple thing as commissioning
Why bother then? You sound like a person who would end up making their mental illness their whole personality... Are you sure you want that?

>>3896627
There's no harm in keeping on at it! I wouldn't be able to make your art and rig for you but if you would like, I wouldn't mind brainstorming character design with you and doing some simple scribbles if you would like.
Doppelle@waifu.club

/vtf/ is filled with troons.

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>>3899534
Shit, mail server seems fucked all of a sudden. If you care, mail vtuber_helper@yahoo.com instead. Sorry about that.

>>3899688
silence groomer

>>3899765
There's nothing wrong in liking drawing anon.

>>3899416
No, I don't, so having taken this risk into account I wasn't planning to stream (at least not regularly), it's easier to keep that shit out of content when it's pre-edited videos where I can just be a generic and occasionally overly excitable narrator for whatever the video is about. Though removing personality kinda defeats the point of being a vtuber, but oh well.
>>3899534
Thanks, for now I'll try to strain what little art muscles I have to modify what I have (for what it's worth I'm scribbling lines with a tablet, not literally copy-pasting or tracing, but certainly over-abusing reference material to a degree that I myself find very uncomfortable), in hopes that it'll get to a point of plausible denial, otherwise I'll give up for real. It's just that proportions of facial features and hair that looks like it's actually growing from the head are really hard to get right without developing a decent art skill, but maybe with another dozen of drafts I'll get somewhere. At least reference clothes photos and various Clip Studio assets/assists are fair game, or I'd off myself already...

so anyone close to making it? averaging more than 20 viewers?

>>3899833
Okay, Godspeed. I'm rooting for you, don't give up.

>>3899840
Odette, Bat, Tiger, Nina, Power Nelson's on a great incline, Slug, Koopa obviously

>>3895293
yeah, you caught me
you were my first guess before looking up which specific artist drew that pic you used so i guess i was on the spot
>Since you're basically the target audience for this what do you think? Is it worth doing?
to be honest? you're probably better off using stills cause it better captures the whole "shitty deviantart gundam fanfiction" thing that /m/SV is supposed to emulate. it's not worth it, especially given how hard those vtuber threads back on /m/ cause anons to seethe
it's a shame too, otto or blexar as a chuba sounds like a fucking hilarious idea

>>3898090
It’s uh. It’s not fun stream material, very very heavy seeing as it’s about girls with terminal illnesses

Might be a bit much

>>3899991
Nelson is proof that males can make it and that having it is mote important than anything else.

>>3901837
Could you be more specific on what "it" is?

>>3901929
What seperates the meek from the strong, the make-its from the /ngmi/: Personality.

>>3901125
You are absolutely right. Planetarian it shall be then. Sadness but not quite that....harsh.

who the fuck is domo

>>3903642
He's the guy who akasupa'd fubuki to be his wife and spammed hololive's chats and waiting rooms to be a meme so now he has clout as a vtuber interviewer.

>>3903689
I thought that guy had a mor substantial claim to fame given the clout he's got....

I haven't heard about him recently though so I'm assuming you don't need to be in his clique to incline any more?

>>3906017
I'm not sure, he's a decent enough interviewer but he only got there by memeing real hard. I don't think he deserves the amount of clout he has and he's a leech on actually talented vtubers. Basically he was just on the ground floor and was able to ride it.

>>3903326
Drop your stream when you do, I love VN playthroughs!

getting ready to stream today too! trying to stream every other day for 1hour at least to get into it. I'm very excited. hope everyone else has a great stream too!

>>3906782
good luck anon. starting off 1 hour a day is good. try to raise it up to twitch's recommended 2 hours a day to give time for viewers to find you and drop by. but you can work towards that goal over time.

>>3906394
Thank you. I will shill a link probably in /wvt/, if you see the game pop up it's most likely me.

I may be drunk of people pointing out my voice is nice but I would still like to try to make VNs, books & manga my niche. We will see of I succeed.

>>3906077
decent interviewer is a stretch. He tries really hard and fails to be funny talking to untalented schmucks.

>>3908723
I said decent enough. There's enough there to keep people entertained, not that he's good or worthwhile.

How do I use Streamlabs or Paypal without doxxing myself or doxxing viewers? I don't have a business registered with my state.

I started on twitch, opened a YouTube but I'm not partner yet. Is it worth switching over completely or should I stay on twitch where I make actual money?

>>3909708
just multistream unless you're affiliate

>>3909739
what if I'm affiliate?

>>3909771
then you're contractually bound to stay on Twitch and you cannot switch over to Youtube unless you want to risk getting banned off twitch, so it's not even something you can consider.

>>3898470
whats vtf stand for?
vtubers, tobacco and firearms?

>>3909972
Vtuber female

>>3898470
Male.

>>3909786
Ah, so you stream on both YT and Twitch until you can find somewhere you can settle in and just do that full time?

>>3910491
yeah, pretty much

>>3909603
Register as an LLC

>>3912340
Is registering as business enough to hide the email/phone number?

There's also the paypal.me thing which seems to allow to hide such info...

>>3912459
https://cybernews.com/resources/the-ultimate-guide-to-safe-and-anonymous-online-payment-methods/

>>3912545

Thanks for the link, I'll use a dummy email for PayPal, set it to business and send myself money and see how it looks like later.

Do you guys think I should open a bitcoin wallet? Do people actually donate?

>>3913515
There's literally no downside to just trying it.

I did it anons. I lost my voice after streaming. It's like some hidden milestone that I wasn't expecting.

>>3914533
Oof. Are you puting up a voice?

>>3914533
screaming, singing or just talking a ton?

>>3914625
>>3914642
Nope, just talking.

>>3914654
Jesus, must've been talking a ton for that to happen.

>>3914702
Uh... just non-stop talking to myself for over 2 hours as I stream to an empty chat box, if that counts. I'm still pretty early on in streaming, so I guess it's just a muscle I need to work on over time.

>>3914654
You know the drill.

Hydrate, no alcohol/coffee. Avoid talking. Definitely do not whisper. Inhale some steam, maybe offa hot tea.

And probably look into getting a humidifier, as far as I've heard it can give you a lot of extra mileage.

>>3914754
blessed. its really fun once you get better and can go for longer! keep it up!

>>3914754
And that's where you're half-right.

You have to practice, but if you get to the point you lost your voice, you did it wrong. Maybe look into the materials for training your voice and take it easy from there.

>>3914754
True, but you also need to recover when you use it heavily. keep on doing it, you could really hurt your throat, which really sucks.

>>3914779
Been hydrating like a fish in a desert. And yeah, I did some googling after and they recommended the humidifier thing to, so I'll probably order a small personal one I can sit on my desk.
>>3914793
Thanks anon.
>>3914841
I've been reading a bunch of stuff about voice training, but I don't know what I'm supposed to be looking for. I'm not that aware of my vocal cords so I'm not too sure if I'm overly straining them until it's too late. And I figured since I'm just talking in my normal voice, it wouldn't be too bad, but here I am.
>>3914864
Sipping on some warm water and inhaling the steam right now.

Thanks for the responses, anons. Gonna take this time to rewatch my VOD and take notes on where I can improve.

How do you pay for a commission via paypal without doxxing yourself?

>>3915035
Nevermind, just saw it in the thread.

>>3914915
Supposedly "Complete Vocal Technique" by Cathrine Sadolin has a lot of info on a lot of ins and outs, but good luck finding a book or PDF.

The idea is simple, if you're practicing something and it feels painful or uncomfortable, it's probably wrong or you're doing it wrong. It should feel "natural". If it feels wrong, it's probably wrong. Trust your body.

>>3915066
Are there any horror stories about people paying for commissions and the artists being trouble over it...?

>>3915068
I see. I guess it's because I was too busy multi-tasking (playing games, filling dead air, checking my OBS/stream, etc.) that I didn't notice my voice starting to strain itself. Guess it's just something I'm gonna have to add as a sticky note remind myself.

>>3915136
Do some vocal warmups as well. If it works for singing, it also works for talking.

Finally in talks with the artist I was on a waitlist for, so should get the commission slot for June. Huzzah, progress. Now that it has begun, time to start proper work on preparation.

I know it's technically against Skeb's rules, but I'm on day 51 of waiting and I want to try DMing my artist to see if they're close to being finished or I need to prepare to cancel. How badly could this go for me?

>>3918353
artist contacts skeb, you forfeit the deposit, get banned from skeb, and don't get your art.

>>3918353
I had one commission delivered on the last day of their deadline. You already waited 50 days might as well just wait the last 9 days instead of getting banned from the site

>>3918401
>forfeit the deposit
Literally the one thing I wouldn't want to happen. I'll wait it out then, thanks.

>>3887777
While someone convinced me to make a discord server, I'm starting to re-think it. I'm still pretty small and even the person that asked for the server has left, so I'm considering dropping it.

I know this sounds like a dumb idea, but I'm actually considering making a "Announcements only" discord sever, that can provide some fun emotes for people who have nitro and stream notifications for everyone else, but where I don't actually need to bring in mods to manage it. That way I also don't really need to deal with the usual problems that come with a discord server. Is this a bad idea?

>>3918914
just use your twitter at that point

For the skeb users, is it fine to have an imgur link for all reference images, since there is a 1000 character limit

>>3918914
Honestly if I made a Discord it would be something I would do

>>3918944
Yes. I used an image post I put up on Twitter as my reference.

>>3918944
A lot do that. Or link a tweet with the references

>>3919050
>>3918974
Thank you, I'm just getting a sketch done, so just attach "Will use for commercial purpose" or something at the beginning as well?

>>3919078
Yeah, something to that effect will do. But clarify it a bit more. Are you just using it for youtube videos? clips? twitch background?

"Commercial purpose" for commissioned art pieces can range from just using it on a monetized youtube video all the way over to mass printing as keychains or stickers and selling it wholesale or even including it as video game art that would be sold on Steam. So you want to make sure the artist is aware of what kind of "commercial purpose" you're looking for.

There was something where you could do reactive pngs based on expressions. I don't remember, I think it could do face tracking for it (don't quote me) but I cannot find it in the archives. Anyone remember?

>>3918914
Discord attracts a lot of people you probably don't want around and history has shown that it's really never good to try and befriend a non-chuuba fan. It's teeming with attention whores with agendas. While it's important to talk to your viewers, I really don't think Discord is the way to go; you should only use Discord to talk to other VTubers. Unless you're okay with performing routine tard wrangling, I don't think it's worth it. I'm pretty sure Nijisanji bans fan interaction in these ways for these reasons. They're just scandals waiting to happen. The announcement thing sounds fine but at that point you're probably better off just using Twitter.

bros, I'm liking the lobster. she's too cute.

>>3921593
She IS very cute.

>>3921593
basade

god damn i want an iphone and a 3d model with fofamit's rigging work

>>3918914
As someone whose moderated and even hosted a few smaller end discords a lot of problems once you grow past like 25-50 people because it attracts dumbasses who spam cheese pizza and gore just for the fuck of it to get the server nuked. That on top of how easy it is to bot the fuck out of servers it's cringe. Discord is only worth it for personal friend group servers imho.

>>3920878
Found it, had to go through somewhere else cause dead thread link, but it turned out not to be what I remembered. Here it is though. https://96enu.booth.pm/items/2495966

https://farfin.itch.io/horsewife
has anyone done an AC-esque chuba yet?

>>3923518
As an animal? No. But my current model is a weird mix of AC kind of and South park (not on purpose, my friend just drew it that way)

Text 内で公開範囲に関する指示が見つかりました。作品のすべての権利はクリエイターに帰属しており、作品の公開範囲を制限することはできません。詳しくはクライアントガイドラインをご確認ください
Any help with this fellow anons? Pops up on my description on skeb

>>3925049
here's translate from DeepL
looks like a confirmation agreement for you

>all rights to the work belong to the creator
the artist will maintain the IP rights to the work itself

>we cannot restrict the scope of publication of the work
you can't prevent the artist from publishing the piece themselves (for example, as part of their portfolio of works, or on social media as a commissioned piece they're working on)

both of these options, if i'm not mistaken, can be adjusted when you put in the Skeb order. for example, there's an option to make the piece private or you can request ownership of the IP (though it may cost more), etc. these look like the default general guidelines when putting in a skeb.

Do your Trimble reps.

>>3887777
Whats the best editing software for both audio and video and what has the least impact on fps when doing game capture??

>>3925194
Is stating this will be used for commercial use and listing the reasons enough then?

>>3925390
that's more up to the artist, and not skeb. Skeb's default agreement is only personal use. by putting in that you want Commercial use into the request text, you're leaving it up to the artist to decide whether they'll accept the skeb or not.

if they do, then you can go ahead and take that as the artist agreeing to give you a commercial license. if they don't, then they're rejecting it. but it's got nothing to do with skeb as a service. (hope that makes sense)

>>3925460
Yes, exactly what I was looking for, I understood that Skeb can't really do anything in the matter, but was wondering if that line would make sense to the artist

>>3925531
yeah, it should be fine.

>>3925341
Any exercise of his you'd recommend in particular?

>>3920911
You're off base, 100%. A discord these days is vital for community building/engagement, all the biggest vtubers have had one and it's one of the main reasons Zen made it this far. Before they blew up they were insane close to their community via Discord and VRChat

>>3926319
>VRChat
that explains a lot

>>3926319
VRChat VTubers =/= Western VTubers

>>3900351
>you're probably better off using stills cause it better captures the whole "shitty deviantart gundam fanfiction" thing that /m/SV is supposed to emulate. it's not worth it, especially given how hard those vtuber threads back on /m/ cause anons to seethe
Hmm, in that case, what about if we did it "Kano-style"?
as for the vt-related seething well, I'm actually kind of curious if they would even make a big stink about it and ngl kind of want to go ahead with it just to see their reaction. After all it won't be "not /m/" if the whole character is literally created from an /m/ fanfic and only covers /m/ content.... right?
>otto or blexar as a chuba sounds like a fucking hilarious idea
funnily enough digi actually wanted to try portraying blexar. We haven't really moved that far on this front though since he's still got outstanding deliveries for the Getter robo opening and I've got my own shit to deal with.

>>3900351
>you're probably better off using stills cause it better captures the whole "shitty deviantart gundam fanfiction" thing that /m/SV is supposed to emulate. it's not worth it, especially given how hard those vtuber threads back on /m/ cause anons to seethe
Hmm, in that case, what about if we did it "Kano-style"?
as for the vt-related seething well, I'm actually kind of curious if they would even make a big stink about it and ngl kind of want to go ahead with it just to see their reaction. After all it won't be "not /m/" if the whole character is literally created from an /m/ fanfic and only covers /m/ content.... right?
>otto or blexar as a chuba sounds like a fucking hilarious idea
funnily enough digi actually wanted to try portraying blexar. We haven't really moved that far on this front though since he's still got outstanding deliveries for the Getter robo opening and I've got my own shit to deal with.

>>3921769
with the next VTube Studio update, 2d models will be able to do the mouth thing too
https://twitter.com/Oykelichanx/status/1392948291890032644

>>3921593
she's really nice! DM her! I chat with her all the time

>>3926926
Why, they basically do the same thing. It's not like all the Apex streamers diversify into other games more than VRChat streamers do.

>>3928524
Sure, but if you take same skin succubus/cat girl model you get 90% of the VRchat Vtuber community

>>3921593
>>3921687
>>3921729
waowao i didnt expect to get posted here!! you are too sweet and i appreciate you all so much, anons!
>>3928396
i enjoy talking a lot with you too, friend! very nice comfy talks ^__^

BERSERK IS NEVER GOING TO FINISH LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>3928572
Same deal with the Vtuber community.

>>3928734
1. Trannies are all over VRChat because Second Life Electric Boogalo
2. They all look like

>>3928871
First one applies to Vtubers as well. Second doesn't since most Vtubers use Live2D and it's super limited in application.

>>3928871
>1. Trannies are all over VRChat because Second Life Electric Boogalo
>all over
I don't think I've ever run into one in VRChat.
>2. They all look like
It turns out making avatars is hard, so people just frankenstein existing stuff together.

>>3915111
Sounds like a great way to never get another client, probably hurts you more than them. So I can't imagine it?
>>3922312
Thanks, looks useful maybe. How is it different from what you thought? Can you not calibrate to match a png to certain expressions?

>>3921593
>>3928645
lobster chan!

I've had a realization. What if I design a vtuber model based on my tastes in music and the way I feel listening to some of it?

There's probably some sort of psychological meaning but that's gonna be a distraction to research.

>>3899534
I'll be surprised if this isn't gonna turn out to be a character design stealing scam like what happened with that one vtuber and her friend who copied her and stuff.

>>3926810
>>3926926
They kept doing it even after VRC. Deny it all you want but building a community is extremely important as a vtuber and unless you're just really good or have corporate backing, which I doubt anyone here is or will have, the traditional way is building an audience and then funneling them to a discord. The only time "drama" starts is when you literally talk shit and get caught talking shit. The only reason you'll get caught for something is because you did something worthy of being caught for.

Engage with your community, host movie nights, let them have a place to post art, etc. Almost all the biggest ENVtubers all have and actively participate in their discord to some degree.

>>3932068
Many VRChat VTubers are stuck in VRCHell

>>3899289
you do know the point isn't the sound like a girl, right? That's not what a babiniku is.

>>3928396
>>3928645
DM how? I don't really use twitter

are any of you guys streaming right now? this chuba i know is looking for people to raid but i always end up shilling paperbag

>>3932508
blew my voice, can't stream.

Odette is streaming though. https://www.twitch.tv/balbc_odette

>>3932508
Finished my a few hours ago, but it was mostly me meandering and talking as I wrapped things up.

>>3932124
It's not about VRChat. Non-VRChat vtubers do the exact same thing.

>>3932531
>>3932593
nonononono, she already raided odette in the past but has like 10 viewers at the moment
looking for someone closer in count so that it's not leeching

>>3932686
ah, that's understandable. none come up in my head or recommended list right now, sorry anon.

>>3932704
cool beans, i'll just suggest bluestar_ubu or egg if they're still on then
also if either of you were shiloh, i'm sorry for not showing up to your streams. you're pretty cool

Regarding Dova Syndrome for BGMs, is there a catch to how you could use their music?

As far as I've translated, they want their sources posted in the video description... am I wrong?

>>3935184
that's basically it

I can't draw for shit but I CAN do 3d modeling. Which 3d vtuber software do you guys think is the best? Also all I've got is a webcam, so either something that'll work with that, or the cheapest other solution would be optimal.

>>3935406
Just use Blender for modeling and either VSeeFace or Virtual Motion Capture for software

>>3928396
Lucky. I don’t know how she will respond if I talk to her randomly though.

>>3936340
just don't be a weirdo and send a tribute picture or something. just chat with her like a normal human being and everything will go smoothly!

>>3931998
I have a character design I love that I'm going to crash and burn with once I'm done preparing. I am sorry if I gave a poor impression, I legitimately just like coming up with designs and want to make friends.

>>3931998
Don't have a design worth stealing anyway, I'd be much less depressed with life if I had the skills to make designs worth stealing.

we're all gonna make it even if we're small right now

>>3938321
I want to feed it caramel popcorn

Is there any way to have expressions have texture colors change with them in vseeface or an alternative? I'm working with a character design with an LED screen face, so I'd like to be able to make that change color with expressions.

>>3938321
I believe in your encouraging words small fluffy chuuba

>>3939820
i want to share it with you, anon!

>>3940446
believe it! harness the positivity and turn it into an energy beam!

>>3896221
>acute social anxiety is winning over the more rational choice of just commissioning an artist
You really sure you want to stream?

saw this appear on my timeline and it looks like this artist is doing really simple live2d commissions for an undecided but probably low price point if anyone is looking for a model that moves
https://twitter.com/rice_deity/status/1395210325872545793

>>3938321
VERY CUTE

how do I stop procrastinating

>>3947115
How fast can you acquire praise? You'll get hooked fast.

I still have an incredible fear of streaming and don't know how to get over it. I'll be all excited and think up the things I want to talk about. Then we get closer to it, I get worried and feel nausea.

Would anyone know of methods to deal with that fear or even books that go indepth?

>>3947816
Do recordings instead to get yourself more used to the idea

>>3947816
Really the only way to get past it is to just do it. I would suggest doing fake streams for yourself until that feels comfortable. Is there a specific part that you can identify that makes you so nervous?

>>3939954
I don't know about other programs but if it's a VRoid model you can import it into Unity with UniVRM and add a property to a material in a blendshape to change its color

>>3947170
Two days, I'm working on a picrew so I can have something that has some permanence if people enjoy using it before I start streaming. It's only a small one, but if someone uses it for their pfp, that's already a win.

>>3947855
>>3947871
Recording would be a suitable training-method, thanks.
The specific issue would be (and this diagnosis is flawed seeing how it's coming from the patient) the fear of delievering a lackluster performance. I feel like I'm in elementary school again getting scared of Show & Tell.

Something something keep your expectations low but low expectations are no excuse for a garbage stream and wasting people's time.

>>3948371
I totally feel that. I stream sometimes and get zero viewers so I end the stream after a hour and feel bad. Unfortunately you'll just have to accept that you will fail sometimes, but it's only a failure if you let yourself quit. Also to live is to be scuffed so don't worry as much about it, just try and improve each time.

>>3948371
>low expectations are no excuse for a garbage stream and wasting people's time.
the reality is that you will never waste anyone's time. if they stick around, it's because there's something there that gives them value. if there isn't, they'll dip out.

with so many streamers out there, viewers have the power to just stop by and leave at any time as they want. don't worry about them and just focus on making you the right type of entertainer you want to be. after that, you'll start to pull in viewers who want to watch your content. and those that don't won't be sticking around anyway.

Yo. I have two things on my mind.

I seem to have a very large delta between viewer numbers when I’m doing different things on steam. I’m wondering how I can experiment with various topics and games and discover what works while still keeping my core audience entertained.

Second is that I tend to lose steam whenever I see those large viewership drops.

Do you guys have any tips for a fledgling VTuber?

>>3952923
I guess a good first question is what are you doing that is keeping you up in numbers and what is it that causes big drops?

>>3952923
Always always always turn off your viewer count. Always assume you're streaming to a large audience. As for tips for trying new things it's hard to suggest anything but I would look at your number (preferably a day or so after) and try to chart out some trends and go from there. Game choice, length, stream time, etc are all things to look to.

>>3952991
It seems like portions of the stream where I talk to chat are the most popular but when I do start to play games, the viewership steadily drops.

I’m wondering if there’s an issue with the games I pick or if there’s a problem with the way I interact.

I wouldn’t want to be a one trick pony.

Is it better to stream in small doses daily or do longer streams every few days?

>>3953092
yeah if you keep peoples attention through chatting then it's likely that a lot of people would want to hear you be able to talk and interact with them more easily, which is hard during games like, say apex where things are happening constantly, or a game like indivisible which is a story based rpg
maybe try more mellow games that are easier to chat over and see how that goes?

>>3953055
Are you sure about this? I wouldn’t know when I’m doing something wrong and when I should course correct and do something else.

>>3953213
What do you consider something to be "wrong"? Low viewership can be due to many things and sometimes it isn't directly correlated to what you're doing on the actual stream. It could be your advertisement, the time you're doing it.

>>3953213
Hi idol hopeful

Turning off numbers is the easiest way to focus on topic / game./ the people in your chat.

Try having the zatsus relate to the game your playing? Or play games where you can talk about whatever and you don't have to devote much brain power to the game

>>3953092
Teru this you

>>3953205
Those are certainly some choices for games. Thank you, I’ll try out some more casual games then!

I’m not particularly skilled at videogames; I only play them whenever I’m streaming so I feel like I should be practicing out of stream too? Would it be weird if I practiced videogames outside of stream and they’d just miss out on the progress I made?
>>3953302
I’m not sure. Whenever I don’t understand why something bad is happening, I tend to look inside myself to see what I can do better. It’s a sort of mental trick I practice to keep myself hunble, I suppose.

Maybe I’m just not a great entertainer outside of my hastily produced chats. Maybe my meagre success is a fluke caused by a stroke of luck.

These are the thoughts that invade me when I see those drops.

>>3953355
Who?

Thank you that sounds like a good idea! I’ll look through my library and find a game that doesn’t require too much mechanical skill!!

I shall take my leave for now but thank you everyone for your advice /auds/asp/!!!

when i first started, i kept the viewers count thing up, but seeing it go from 1 to 3 to 2 and down to 1 over and over again made me feel like shit, so i've turned it off. i know it's still doing it, but i don't visibly see it happening in real time anymore, so it doesn't bother me as much (still hurts a little).

>>3953554
I would suggest streams that lend themselves to your strengths then. Zatsudans are good and all but maybe something a little more prepared would be good? Kinda more like a video essay or Ted talk that you do live.

i've never done a zatsudan because i'm worried nobody will show up and talk to me...

>>3953668
lemme put aside your worries they won't
t. 2view male chuuba

>>3953621
I see! That sounds great! Thank you very much anonymous, I’ll plan for that in the coming weeks!

>>3953668
They won't unless your established. It's still good to do so as practice. All it takes is a bit more preparation so make a flow chart of what you want to talk about be it a show or anime you watched, or games you're playing offline.

>>3953668
i do teaching streams which aren't exactly zatsudans but they're similar that they're both talking streams and both benefit from chat engagement
those are a little easier to do though because its easier to talk to yourself when you're just explaining material so maybe if you wanted to do something like that you could do it on a topic that you could just ramble on about without worrying about a chat?
similarly i once intentionally broke out into a impromptu zatsu the other day after i finished streaming a game and ended up having some solid retention for the 10-15 minutes i was rambling on with chat which surprised me

god damn streaming is hard

>>3953554
>Maybe I’m just not a great entertainer outside of my hastily produced chats
That means you are good at talking, not that you're bad in general. A lot of people can't sing. A lot of people can't draw. A lot of people can't play games at competitive levels. A lot of people can't fix a leaking waterpipe which can cause MAJOR DAMAGE. A lot of people can't put two words together. None of these means said people are bad.
>>3953092
As other anons said, pick games that provides more opportunities to talk to viewers or discuss what just happened.

>>3954007
Thank you, that really balanced out my perspective. I’ll try to pick games that play to my strengths more!!

>>3948200
if your picrew does get spread around it can easily bring a nice deal of exposure to you/your twitter (and it is rewarding to see people use it as avis), so shill it around

t. picrew maker

https://twitter.com/Girl_Dm_/status/1395458874962939904/video/1

What’s an acceptable amount of time to be pre-debut? I don’t wan’t to debut until I reach my follower goal but that might take a while

>>3954506
My plan is not until I reach 5k subs will I debut

>>3954506
How far are you into your process? Do you have everything? What's your follower goal?

>>3954506
I'll probably start test/basic streaming before I even have my art done (not mentioning vtuber stuff), then pngtube until it's rigged, and never do a proper debut. I'll tweet stuff, but follower numbers wont be part of my content strategy at all.

>>3954506
i'm debuting soon with 4 months experience. no point waiting in my opinion

LAST CALL FOR IRON VERTEX
https://twitter.com/iron_vertex/status/1395499752033185797

>>3956292
I’m going to try to get a rerig from them. Really hope my boss accepts.

Are events like 24hour streams worth trying to do to get some traction to your channel when you're a bit smaller?

>>3957690
good luck, anon.

>>3956292
I'd love to get IV to rig my model, but I've just started discussions with the artist so there's no way I can even guarantee there's art there in time. Oh well, I'll look for other high end alternatives.

>>3957690
Don't they have a strict rule about no rerigs?

>>3957791
I would say that isn't a negative necessarily, but I don't think it's good enough to be considered a positive boost. I would personally suggest not doing it unless you just really want to do a 24 hour stream. They're harder than they look for sure.

>>3957795
Thank you.
>>3958129
Do they? That’s going to be rough. My current model is really really not too great. We paid a premium but didn’t even get different expressions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vPBluWDdbs
our favorite lobster's back at it

Hey /asp/ies I’m back to give advice. I’m an 100ish avg view chuuba and I wanna help. If you have any bugbears eating you I’ll try my best to help for the next couple of hours.

>>3961188
Hey! I’m currently looking for someone to rerig me after my agency got duped into paying premium for a newbie’s first time. Iron Vertex doesn’t do rerigs and Keffiy didn’t respond. Do you have any suggestions?

Thank you!

>>3961450
Okay, so I would still apply for IV, most likely you won’t get accepted but maybe they will pick you up. You’re in a sort of unique situation so I don’t think it would count as a rerig.

As for your current modeller, how long have they not been responding to you? Have you told them you’re considering issuing a refund?

>>3961188
whats more worth your time? Vtweeting? or Vchatting?
Do you have tips for networking in the greater streaming / youtubing scene?

>>3961188
What advice do you have for someone with really niche interests? I can't seem to ever feel excitement when doing things that are considered popular and it always shows, but I'm only animated when I'm doing my niche stuff but get no viewers.

>>3961619
Okay thank you, I’ll ask my boss to try.
My current modeller still replies but has repeatedly told me that it’s not possible to make extra toggleable expressions (even beyond the multiple rigging issues) so it seems like they’re just experienced enough. My boss does not want to cause an issue so no refunds.

I also have a second question: Do you have any general tips for growing a channel as well as a userbase? My debut was good but I seem to have stagnated after that. I’m >>3952923

Originally I was aiming to get to youtube monetization by 2 months but I don’t think that’s possible at the current rate.

>>3961188
What helped you grow the most? A viral tweet, a friends raid? Playing a certain game? Time?

>>3946165

>>3961188
What's your stance on advertising yourself as a brand rather than a particular character in order to branch out in different forms of content creation and not be tied to one specific model?

>>3961188
Best way to do your reps pre-debuting, so you have some sort of build-up to the debut

>>3961815
Vchatting combined with vtweeting but not in the way most people do it. Find someone you want to be friends with. Turn up to their streams and comment on their posts on Twitter. Networking works best when there’s an element of naturalness to it. Also in my experience YouTube sucks ass but your Mileage may vary with this.
>>3961861
If you have your niche appeal to others in the same niche. Go to discords and subreddits and other threads on this site to get people interested in your niche to turn up. Don’t force yourself to be someone you’re not. Streaming is a marathon not a sprint.
>>3962094
>>3962131
My answer to both these are the same so I will reply to them both.

My biggest strength and why I think I have grown how I am has always been my consistency of brand. You want people to be able to expect what kind of content they will receive from your streams. It doesn’t matter if it’s a type of game or a style of content or whatever, it’s important to build consistency so people can tune in to something they want.

I haven’t ever caught a lucky break. It’s been slow grinds for me to where I am now. Maybe in the future I’ll pop off and get super big but you can’t rely on viral success.

>>3962850
I think this is weak. You have to think about the appeal of live-streaming as a whole verses watching a video. The appeal is the relationship with the streamer and the interaction you can have. When you have multiple characters it really hurts that.
>>3963128
Stream a bunch so you don’t fuck up your debut entirely. Make some friends on Twitter and twitch. So essentially just become a vtweeter/chatter until you’re ready.

>>3962094
Different person but Teru,

If AG is a black company then cut your losses and leave.
Reincarnate into a teacher themed pngtuber, and do oops all zatsudan. You'll have a lot more freedom as an indie.
I want you to be successful but you wont be if you think only about the numbers.

>>3964551
I'm not sure if that's a viable option unless the contract had a loophole. There are certain legal repercussions that come with breaking contracts that a lot of indie vtubers can't afford and will end up usually in a worse spot than they started if they don't have any legal backing. It's more viable to make the best out of a bad situation, grow your audience while you can, fulfill the needs of the company, and then graduate with a new gimmick once you have sufficient enough resources to do so.

>>3965946
If it's a fairly new black company there is a high chance there is a loophole that can be abused to either
A. be terminated
B. force a graduation

>>3964551
Don’t name her like that.

Couldn't someone theoretically do some big yabais and force a company's hand?

>>3965946
Ah the narrative going around was that at certain amount of cash you could leave with the model, I assumed that at a lower amount of cash you could leave without it.
>>3966285
Should I delete the post? Im genuinely sorry and also genuinely stupid

>>3966422
Yes actually, on the off-chance that it is. I know she usually has a very distinct voice through text but it's best not to call out like that to avoid any unnecessary and unwarranted problems that could tie back to her association here. Also this could be an entirely different person, you never know.

>>3966597
im getting i cannot delete a post this old....

>>3966597
>Also this could be an entirely different person, you never know.
As someone not involved in this, that's what I'd assume. Everyone tends to slap a 'known name' on someone no matter what, like people constantly calling posters Risu in other threads.

Obviously it's teru teru bozu the rain ghost chuuba

>>3961450
If IV doesn't work out, you can try contacting any of the green roles in the Live2D server if any are open, they go through a screening process so it filters some absolute newbies out.

Anyone have any skeb recommendations?

>>3959237
Yeah, point 11 of their FAQ.
https://www.ironvertex.com/faq

>>3963175
>Also in my experience YouTube sucks ass
In which area? Attracting new viewers? Retaining them? Potential income? Legal stuff?

>>3970136
Not him, but to be fair it would be harder to find a way YouTube doesn't suck.

thank you RETSU for introducing me to that bomb-ass song and being a cute pngtuber

>>3970136
All of the above. It’s just a bad platform to start on.

>>3961188
im a vtuber and i was approached by another vtuber interested in an irl relationship, they're fairly successful and i like them a lot but this still feels like it could blow up in my face. do i gamble and take the chance anyway? i don't really care about looks, i just want to raise a family since im the last surviving child of my family

>>3974340
can't you decide together to keep the relationship completely private and separated from 'work'?

>>3974340
Not the advice anon but do not do that. You're just asking for a shit show.

>>3974340
NTA but that just sounds like a lot of red flags, don't do it.

>>3974340
>it could blow up in my face
It will. Don't.

I need to find an artist I can hire for character creation, the struggle is real

>>3974340
absolutely fucking not. anyone who is a vtuber has something wrong with them to want to make themselves virtual. that literally includes me and everyone here. you need a normal person interested in you for you, not you for being a vtuber

>>3974340
Only if you can find a way to make yourself the one in power over the relationship

>>3974697
Don't degens belong to each other?

thanks anons, i think i already knew the truth but hearing it from you helped me decide to do the right thing.

>>3974748
no, you need someone who can handle and understand your autism, not someone to make it worse, anon!

>>3974686
My best advice is to look at pixiv for things you like the aesthetic of and see if those artist catch your eye. Then see if they do Skebs or have a business email.

>>3974792
NO, you want a degen s/o and you know it!

>>3974791
imagine the puss puss tho

>>3974791
As someone that's in a proper IRL relationship for years that started online, it is possible. But its rare that it works, especially as you are both effectively starting by knowing each other as 'characters'. It mostly has the chance of ruining one or both of you, or just getting shanked by someone.

>>3975037
i just want to be loved like pic related :c

>>3967359
Can confirm. Am Amber Glow's latest darling.

>>3975354
It'll happen eventually, right...?

>>3975513
NGBL

>>3974411
That's way too much self-control for anyone who ever considered becoming a VTuber.

>>3975513
Depends.
Are you male? No.

>>3975513
of course, anon! all of us will find our perfect person someday and we r all gonna make it!

>>3975817
Not everyone becomes a vtuber just due to lack of social abilities.

>>3976008

>>3961188
How can I tell if I'm the right person for this or not?

>>3976354
Do you want to do it? Then you’re the right person for it. Success comes as much as you’re prepared to work for it.

Ok just finished doing my artists DM reps. Wish me luck anons

Shout outs to those anons last thread who convinced me not to DM my Skeb artist about the wait, got my commission back today and it's so good I can't sit still.
(No I will not post it yes I can leave you hanging)

>>3977262
:(

>>3977262
congrats anon. hope to see you being shilled by a 'viewer' in /wvt/ someday soon

>>3975978
Your shining positivity really illuminates the darkest depths within our hearts small fluffy chuuba

>>3961188
how the FUCK do i twitter

>>3977583
Comment normie things on peoples posts. Post things that are vaguely interesting.

>>3977629
how do i find these posts

>>3977658
Follow people who you want to network with. /here/chuubas are a good start

>>3977700
HOW DO I FIND THEM TO NETWORK WITH

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND TWITTER

>>3977737
how boomer are you

>>3977737
go to their streams
look at their about
click twitter
go to their following page
go follow all the other /here/chuubas

>>3977737
Ok so go to the /wvt/ thread and find the ghostbin. It has links to a lot of the chuuba’s twitters. If you need more help maybe you can ask one of the chuubas in that list that belongs in the trash..?

>>3977737
Comment on things you are interested also post about things you like to do or you want to show as vtuber, if you have some clips or stuff like that could help you too!

>>3977737
watch corpse, she's a great entry point if you want to get to know /here/ chubas

>>3977791
i spent enough years homeless that a lot of internet stuff just flew past me, alright

>>3977875
It’s okay, I also had a lot of social media fly past me but we can all work at getting better at things!

>>3977875
Tanyaposter?

>>3978593
Nej.

i have come to the conclusion based on zero supporting evidence that just a normal voice won't work for me and i need to put on a voice.

>>3979221
post your normal voice

>>3979221
It depends on what you're going for. If you just want to show your genuine personality while you stream then there's no need to put on a voice. However if you're going for a more character driven kayfabe, then the voice should try to match with your presentation of your kayfabe as much as possible.

>>3979462
yeah, i don't really have any lore kayfabe, but i think it'll help with the illusion of being 'in character' as a vtuber.

>>3977355
i will find you anon and i will hug you

>>3980040
No stop I can't take this level of unadulterated optimism I don't deserve it

Is having a boyfriend a debuff, especially if you don't lean into the GFE angle? I live with mine and unfortunately do not have a lot of space to set up, so I'm worried he will pick up occasionally

>>3980589
boyfriend? i think you mean roommate anon

>>3980626
Exactly. But still, wouldn't a male roommate instigate a similar response (if there is any). I mean stuff like if he were to cough or sneeze, not so much being like 'yeah come gimme some sugar bby'

>>3980660
If you're absolutely concerned about the creepy loser angle then you could always play it off as a sibling

>>3980589
Yes. Inherently yes. Do you even need to ask this question?

>>3980394

>>3982286
Argh, too wholesome! I yield...

>>3980589
boyfriend is one of the greatest debuffs no matter what.
the best thing you can do is say it's your husband that is much less of a debuff than anything else. except siblings but you got to know how to act for it to work.

>>3980660
female roommate's boyfriend

>>3980660
>>3980589
Just tell them it's me and I'm here to cuck your audience on stream.

This is terrifying. Seeing Nadechama/JPchama crowdsource /vt/ for suggestions on her vtuber model. This can only end terribly.

Stuff like this is why posting WIP pictures of vtuber models openly here is a terrible idea.

>>3984115
But Anon, her tomboy idea wouldn't have worked anyway. She said her ass elf she doesn't necessarily do any of the traditional yonboy activities and her voice sounds completely antithetical to how tomboys sound. It's an ipgrade, she could lean into her new gimmick at maximum power.