/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>38430253
No one in the West cares about HoloFes so NijiEN might win the mindshare in March.

>>38430361
No one in the west also cares about Nijien so i dont know how they are gonna win that mindchair.

How did bae get 0 FUCKING FUNNEL from fauna moving to SCs? You would think that after the halloween collabs fauna viewers wouldn't mind watching bae.

>>38430389
Recent clip numbers
>>38384079
>>38384105
>>38384194
>>38384234
>>38384340

>>38430390
Where's the funnel WTF

>>38430473
Nope. Fauna shares more of an audience with Mumei.

>>38430452
>nijien
>western mindshare
ruru
rumao
theres a reason why a lot of en clippers ditched niji for holo last sept anon

Zero funnel from Fauna going to SC to Bae, it all went to Mumei.

>>38430473
Bae is fine when she's not screaming randomly. But she does, and it filters people. Me included.

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>65,711: Pekora (Hololive)
>38,100: Pekora (Hololive)
>32,607: Suisei (Hololive)
>26,031: Maimoto (Nijisanji)
>25,481: Marine (Hololive)
>24,029: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>19,348: Fubuki (Hololive)
>15,695: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>14,608: Gura (Hololive)
>13,734: Mio (Hololive)
>13,653: Peanuts-kun (Indie)
>13,204: Nene (Hololive)
>12,960: Salome (Nijisanji)
>12,224: Shigure Ui (Indie)
>11,814: Ririmu (Nijisanji)
>11,526: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,475: Botan (Hololive)
>10,380: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,074: Moona (Hololive)

>>38430473
>Just done watching Fauna and go to Bae
>See her full team named "-BUTT"
>Leaves
Funnels have been weak for HoloEN for months now.
Whatever she got, she's losing to Mumei anyways.

>>38430294
she gets to stay for releasing these two banger covers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAwJ0_uqhb4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzS26Ao3vt8

Heads up, there is going to be a 2view overlap horrorshow later today when VERSEn and VEE do their split pov amogus collab.

>>38430473
Bae thinks adding "butt" at the end of name sis funny. It's not.

>>38430568
>DECEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,863 - Birthday totsumachi
2) Miko (Hololive) - 43,734 - Molly Online w/Suisei
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 119,225 - 2 million subs celebration 3D
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 108,918 - Niji MK Cup rules & lottery
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,711 - Fate/Grand Order gacha

>PER COMPANY
4x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
2x: Pekora
1x: Aqua, Miko, Toya

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
224x: Hololive
102x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
53x: Pekora
22x: Miko
19x: Kuzuha
18x: Aqua
16x: Salome, Subaru
15x: Nijisanji
10x: Marine
7x: Suisei, Toya
6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata, Mio
5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura, Koyori, Noel
4x: Chloe, Korone, Okayu, Polka, Towa
3x: Ayame, Choco, Lui, Mayuzumi, Mel
2x: Ange, Botan, Fubuki, Ibrahim, Iroha, Lamy, Laplus, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Yashiro
1x: AI, Akabane, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Lain, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Yorumi, Zeta

>>38430452
they couldn't even win the mindshare with noctyx debuting without any holo events how much more so if its a male gamer wave which is the most numbers poison you can get as in a male nijien.

Gold today, Gold tomorrow.
2 days of hag lewds

>>38430473
She screams alot anon. Who in their right mind would go from Cute Comfy Fauna to Loud Zoomer Bae? To mumei i go, she is at least Cute too!.

>>38430473
Shiny hunting is far more interesting than the story
Duh

Mumei's stream died for asians apparently kek

>>38430473
Bae is too juvenile and loud relative to Fauna.

>>38430683
Hag with twin tail. Hot.

>>38430683
muh Dick

>>38430709
I was wondering what happened.
t. Australian

>>38430473
Her voice is bad

>>38430684
Mumei's screams always sounded louder to my ear dreams personally than Bae's even though Bae's general tone is louder, her screams never hurt my ears unlike Mumei
It's something interesting I've noticed

700 SEAhoomans vanished

>>38430714
Will Yagoo have a 3D birthday stream?

STFU saplings. She will never be the face of EN no matter how much ccv she gets.

GRIM

list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69
>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa
>Selkie https://twitter.com/SelkieVT
>AisRiale https://twitter.com/AisRiale
>Chaos https://twitter.com/lordcommandervt
>MoonJelly https://twitter.com/moonjelly0
>Suika Emi https://twitter.com/suikaemi
>Etherna Celine https://twitter.com/ethernaceline
>Etherna Helen https://twitter.com/EthernaHelen
>Makoto & Akira Misaki https://twitter.com/ggnlive_withyou
>Peari Morino https://twitter.com/MorinoPeari
>Orla Gan Ceann https://twitter.com/orlaganceann

places to end up for these streamers include
>HoloEN3 which has been running 'open auds' all year so far
>Tsunderia auditions entered "second stage" on Aug 27th low likelihood for some of these girls now

>>38430773
Mumei's screams sound like monke noises which is funny, Bae sounds like an air raid siren and I can't deal with it.

>>38430823
wonder how many of these just fell out of the game entirely and just moved on

That is ALOT of sea viewers that mumei has considering its like noon there on a tuesday.

>>38430814
b-b-b-but she is steamer...

>>38430773
Thats why i only added Cute to Mumei. I agree Mumei can get pretty loud but still cute AS LONG as she isnt playing fps.

>>38430822
YT just lagged the fuck out across the board by the looks of it.

>>38430720
>>38430684
Perhaps holo en are more like nijisanji jp and just they just oshi. The fact gura is the solo en member to always hit 10k shows that en just prefers to watch their oshi.

Ok apparently its not SEA only, australia and some parts of canada are also having issues.

Fauna spent a dumb amount of money for mics and interfaces for off collabs so people don't end up sounding muffled. Bought a bunch of lav mics and shit.

>>38430847
The vtubing industry is in the consolidation phase. Every single small corpo is going to die, and most indies are going to graduate.

>>38430910
also in california since it died for me as well

>>38430652
SILVER
>1) 57,145: Suisei (Hololive) Spotify sponsored stream
>2) 29,931: Gura (Hololive) singing fish
>3) 51,019: Marine (Hololive) Clubhouse 51 w/ Koyori
>4) 81,211: Hololive (Hololive) holoX Live
>5) 38,100: Pekora (Hololive) FIFA23


> PER COMPANY
5x: Hololive

> PER STREAMER
1x: Suisei, Gura, Marine, Hololive, Pekora

BRONZE
>1) 34,337: Kuzuha (Nijisanji) Pokemon SV [18]
>2) 27,411: Lamy (Hololive) Caravan Stories w/ Marine [15]
>3) 49,213: Miko (Hololive) Pokemon SV [18]
>4) 48,421: Miko (Hololive) Soul Calibur VI [30]
>5) 32,607: Suisei (Hololive) Pokemon SV [19]


> PER COMPANY
1x: Nijisanji
4x: Hololive

> PER STREAMER
2x: Miko
1x: Kuzuha, Lamy, Suisei

>>38430473
>Fauna's voice is soothing and relaxing
>Bae's is tiring and annoying
And Im not even talking about screaming for the funniez. Just regular talking and when she says one of her obnoxious taglines like BRUH or OH MAW GAWD I want to straight up shove my penis in her mouth so she cant speak anymore.

2022 is coming to a close. Hololive has debuted 8 males and 3 females this year.

>>38430966
>2022 SILVERS
>PER COMPANY
220x: Hololive
103x: Nijisanji
6x: VSPO
5x: Indie
4x: Neo Porte
1x: PRISM Project

>PER STREAMER
52x: Pekora
32x: Miko
28x: Kuzuha
22x: Marine
14x: Subaru
13x: Suisei
11x: Gura, Salome
10x: Nijisanji
8x: Hololive
7x: Fubuki
6x: Botan, Fuwa, Korone, Toya
5x: Aqua
4x: Koyori, Lize
3x: Flare, Hal, Lui
2x: Haachama, Kanae, Kanata, Lamy, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Noel, Shiina, Tsukasa, Tsuna, Watame
1x: Akina, Akira, Alban, Amelia, Aster, AZKi, Beni, Choco, Chronoir, Debi, Ema, Gaku, Gatchman, Genzuki, Hayato, Hinano, Hololive Indonesia, Hoshikawa, Iofi, Ina, Iroha, IRyS, Kaela, Kanae, Karuta, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Levi, Matsuri, Mio, Mito, Moona, Nari, Nene, Nerumero, Okayu, Oliver, Ponpoko, Ramune, Ren, Rion, Ririmu, Risu, Ritsuki, Roboco, ROF-MAO, Rushia, Sara Nagare, Shion, Suzuya Aki, Toko, Towa, Uki, Vox, Warabeda, Yashiro, Yui

>2022 BRONZES
>PER COMPANY
219x: Hololive
102x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie
5x: Neo Porte
2x: 774 Inc., Noripro, VSPO
1x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
38x: Miko
33x: Subaru
32x: Pekora
29x: Kuzuha
16x: Marine
12x: Salome
10x: Gura, Nijisanji
7x: Toya
6x: Koyori
5x: Lamy, Okayu, Suisei
4x: Aqua, Botan, Chloe, Fubuki, Hal, Korone, Mori
3x: Amelia, Choco, Hayato, Iroha, Lui, Rushia, Sasaki, Shion
2x: Ayame, Fuwa, Gwelu, Hololive, Kanata, Kiara, Kobo, Lize, Mio, Mito, Mumei, Mysta, Nerumero, Nijisanji English, Nui, Shiina, Tamaki, Towa, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi
1x: Aia, Aki, AZKi, Dola, Enna, Gatchman, Haachama, Ibrahim, Ike, Kaida, Kanae, Kazaki, Kyoko, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Magni, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Met, Minase, Noel, Nose, Patra, Petra, Polka, Ponpoko, Ponto, Rikiichi, Rosemi, Ryushen, Sora, Sumire, Tsukasa, Ui, Voltaction

>>38430939
At least those staffs would be glad ACCELERATE isn't what YAGOO is aiming for.

>>38430983
Bae's overall vocal style desperately needs wit and comedic timing to thrive, and she has neither.

You can do a QnA with the pin message. Is this new?

>>38430983
Fauna is the true definition of comfy. Ina is just boring and low energy.

>>38430473
It's not about that. In the grand scheme of things Bae's overlap with Fauna isn't that bad but you can't just force an overlap by collabing a ton. There's more to it than that and SNO always wins out in the end

>>38430473
I'd rather Fauna did those collabs with Gura or Mumei.
>>38430530
I'd agree.

>>38431091
It's been a thing for months but not very useful

>>38431112
This but the opposite

>>38431091
It's 'new' in that it's one of the things that was rolled out this year, but rarely does anyone ever actually bother with it.

>>38431173
Ok. First time I see it

holo gold contenders

>4 HoloX collab
>6 Mio new costume
>7 Mio debut anniversary
>8 Shion birthday
>13 Ayame birthday
>27 Kanata debut anniversary
>29 Watame debut anniversary
>31 Hololive NY stream

niji gold contenders

>4 Marika 2022 lottery
>9 Hisui 3D debut
>10 XSOLEIL debut
>11 Marika 2022 qualifiers
>18 Marika 2022 tournament
>20 Luxiem anniversary
>25 SMC live
>29 NJU 2022 day 1 (whole day free)
>30 NJU 2022 day 2 (30 mins free)
>31 NJU 2022 day 3 (30 mins free)

>>38430850
If kids are at school and adults are working, who are watching? NEETs? Can't be just them solely.

i guess takeks moved onto being saplings, its been a slow buildup of obnoxiousness but i get the same vibe i used to from takofucks back then.

>>38431053
ACCELERATE would kill their 3D studio staffs kek

When will menheras learn that to be healthy they need to go to the doctor instead of keep playing games till it turns worse?

I hate how moom has made her voice more high pitched in recent months. I liked her old more natural voice alot more.

>>38431111
>magni
Knew saplings were faggots

>>38431111
>SNO box isreal

Wait did the new wave teaser already out? Did they actually name a dude Hex? Hex HAYWIRE???
And he have a chainsmoker voice?

>>38431365
At that point they're not a menhera anymore, anon.

>>38431457
Wait until you find out about the pornhub account

>>38431111
>SNO on top three
>Kronii that low
Kek, The fanbase has spoken.

Is there a reason why Lazulight doesn't have home3D right now? They already have their own 3D models right?

>>38431434
>People still using the fucking vrabi chat shit even after how unreliable it’s been shown to be

>>38431111
Quality SNOT died way too fast

>>38431366
it doesn't kill Anycolor considering how many 3D debuts they have

Mumei looking she's gonna cap under 6k for this stream even when Fauna ends.

Crazy how much of a debuff pokemon is for EN vtubers outside of Fauna. Meanwhile, it's free numbers for JPs.

>>38431536
Niji's home 3D is dogshit anyway, they better off stick to Live2D. The only justification where their home3D is better if the rigging is still 1.0

>>38431536
They’re not allowed to use it until they officially debut

>>38431111
Gura actually doesn't have much overlap with fauna from the past 3 streams.

>>38431536
You only get it after you have a 3D debut. They might get it in january.

Mumei's current pokemon stream and her last one. Seems to be on track to match

>>38431587
I mean their current 3d tech is really so far behind that its not even funny so accelerate fits well for them.

doppio – seikyuu va
hex – kyrio cifer
zaion – sayu okami
kotoko – usami_vt
meloco – makoto misaki
ver – ????

this is their PL

>>38431650
Lazulight 3D debuts might actually surpass Gura's 3D Live.

>>38431010
Obligatory Tempus=HoloEN3

>>38431587
Niji did way less 3D stuff than Holo though
>>38431536
>Niji home3D
See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fChQkMxDtXQ&t=3702s

>>38431587
Niji's 3D is overworked to hell and back considering they need to film 3D ROFMAO and Chronoir videos too. There's a reason Niji 3D streams are rare as fuck.

>>38431707
Damn, I checked every one of these and they don't really seem all that interesting

>>38431743
im talking about 3D debuts and they do a lot more for having more members. hololive do more 3D events though

>>38431776
That's why they got picked up for NijiEN

I still want Fauna on Dota2, just one stream. Its probably gonna be shit but just one c'mon.

>>38431726
even without that it's still fucking baffling that they actually released 8 males to 3 females this year. Debuting "actual" EN3 this year actually gonna make it even.

>>38431707
>makoto debuts in nijien
>akira debuts in holoen

>>38431653
The problem is that shiny hunting is buff content
She should be getting higher than that

>>38431639
>Chumbuds still like mumei despite them have no 1 on 1 interactions in forever
Maybe they should collab again. Gura is consistently on top of mumei's charts as well.

>>38431840
Get her to 1 million

>>38431707
Which one doesn't do coomerbait?

>>38431758
Do they have only a single studio? Even Hololive is fucking struggling with 3d Studio space, and they have two.

>>38431776
I hope you like gacha games or R18 male asmr!

>>38431707
I actually am glad holoen3 didn't debut early because i find the graduated indies list mediocre, glad niji snatch them up.

>>38431639
>>38431111
IRyS Doko.........?

>>38431874
We really don't know if shiny hunting is buff content for EN. No one else has done it iirc.

IRyS DON’T LOOK

>>38431707
>meloco – makoto misaki
has this been actually confirmed?

It's baffling how, with the number of staff Cover has, their management is still shitty. Who should be blamed for staff incompetence?

>>38431859
Imagine, kek. Another actual romeo juliet situation compared to the dollarstore that is pomutori

https://twitter.com/famima_now/status/1599961830788562944
RT campaign

>>38431707
wait i thought Hex was LexParte since that dude just graduated like 2 days ago didnt actually give the voices a close listen just knew Hex was deep and Lex was deep

>>38431929
Honestly some people probably don't even know who she is with how little she initiate Collabs while also being a 1 person "gen".

>>38431973
Tempus

>>38431973
theyre shit but theyre still better than nijisanji staff though thats for sure

>>38431930
Mori did it.
She did, 3 others shiny hunt, but they got something around 3K.

>>38431707
>meloco – makoto misaki
HUH???

>>38431707
Chaos doko?

>>38431973
Not all those staffs are in management positions.

>>38431973
EN management just sucks

>>38431973
>management is still shitty
>with the number of staff Cover has
Do you actually think the solution to poor management is even more shitty middle management or something?

>>38432013
Do I have to be in japan?

>>38432013
>Mel
>Roboco
>AZKi
Everyone gets a pie of the pie 8n Hololive

>>38431930

>>38432076
its a rrat some anon is pushing

>>38432076
its her

>>38432093
Niji Gamers

>>38432013
sasuga main branch

>>38431874
I'm part of Moom's core/floor audience and I'm not watching. About a quarter of us aren't. Pokemon is maximum debuff.

>>38432113
Ah... back when mori was less retarded and actually the #3 of EN...

>>38432046
Those were reading supers while breeding for shinies

>>38432019
he has two accounts

>>38431874
For japs, sure.
For EN, it seems like people don't care. Open VC during the mindless grind would be a bigger buff, but ofc the only available ENs are already streaming.

>>38432013
>low ccv holos actually get a piece of the pie in hololive
>meanwhile you are left to die and beg your audience in order to live in nijisanji

>>38431874
If you can't execute well then the gimmick isn't gonna be such a big boost.

>>38432019
same rm

Do Koreans seriously lose interest in bae?

>>38431874
mumei playing any game is unironically filtering like 20% of her core audience kek

>>38432239
local vtubers are winning

https://youtu.be/eoWcQUjNM8o
This might be interesting to some of you

>>38432173
>>38432230
oh so it is the same guy? alright at least i know im not going crazy then.

>>38432185
YES! That's why Air, one of the most popular livers in Nijisanji just got merch! He's so popular! its not like hes a... 200 ccv vtuber

>>38432239
better alternatives https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZi1Xh0_8q4

Who's the Mori of JP?

>>38432109
ID doko

>>38432239
Koreans being a big enough audience to make a significant impact was always a meme, just like Russians for Botan.
They exist and make a impact on SCs maybe, but for CCV, they're a small minority.

>>38432239
They have Isegye now

>>38431874
Here's the thing. A shit ton of mumei's fans watch her karaokes and only her karaokes.

I must further remind you

>>38430639
>>38430639
>>38430639

>>38432309
>male

>>38430564
>Autistic people are irritated by volume changes
So you are admitting you are autistic?

>>38432337
He's an unpopular male, one of the most

>>38432239
They'll show up in streams during KR primetime, but they're not going to contort themselves to try and catch 'random gaming stream #45' in the morn/noon

>>38432376
>male

>>38432185
You can't say that when NijiEN just had a big FamilyMart campaign, even the scrubs.
3view Nijis get sponsorships more often than they deserve to imo.

>>38432239
Does Bae even pander that much to them?

>>38430838
>Annoyed by loud noises
Actual autism

at least they're all mogging luxiem

>>38430714
Look at that EN3 and JP7 and Stars EN2 sized hole starting on December 19th.

>>38430918
Fucking finally, I've been saying these girls should get lav mics for ages. How all these girls, some with $1000+ mics who all stream for a living, took this long to get a few lapel mics is beyond me (and it was only one of them at that).

>>38430983
>Annoyed by specific tonal phrases
Actual autism

>>38431707
>doppio – seikyuu va
That asmr rp guy? Vox is going to have a lot more competition

>>38432412
i accept your concession if thats your only argument when your narrative is disproven

>>38432318
Who?

>>38432442
if EN3 came out over Luxiems anniversary that'd be some all out war shit

>>38432426
>people who watch boring unintelligent american white girl with the uwu anime girl voice have unironic autism
holy shit anon, you cracked the code!

>>38432423
She did Korean practice streams and sc begging from them.

>>38432496
>Disproven
>Male

>>38432362
Everyone's irritated by sudden volume changes, to the point where there are courses that teach people how to control audio levels and do smooth transitions.

>>38432498
it would be irrelevant as the publics couldnt be more differnet
>>38432523
Yes anon, males are part of nijisanji

>>38432309
>iluna is relegated to being the rejects in the random gacha merch
kek

>>38432423
The only time Bae speaks Korean if it's not stream is if she gets SC in the language, a large part of the koreans who SC her just straight up do it in english for a while now so she doesn't find much reason to do speak it these days and so she stopped getting clipped by big korean clippers

>>38432423
I mean, look at the amount of Korean studying streams she's done.

The faunaschizo just doesn't stop.

>>38432455
She only has enough for a 4 man collab for now. Said if it works out well she might spend more money for more.

>>38430608
With Mori just throwing shit at the wall now and hoping something sticks when it comes to music I think Bae is the best HoloEN for music now. All of her music projects are try hard as hell and she puts a ton of effort into them. Also Play Dice is one of the best Hololive originals of all time and if it came out during the Myth boom it would have more views than RIP.

>>38432498
would be a good receipt
>You debuted iLuna when we debuted Tempus? Alrighty then, here's the long-awaiting EN3 on Luxiem anniversary days

>>38432415
>NijiEN
>The branch that you(not you) said is making more money than the JP branch

>>38432555
>Disproven
>Males in Nijisanji

>>38431874
Another example on an RNG thing that JPs love but EN watchers don't care about.

>>38432587
No it wouldn’t

>>38431365
menheras probably think the doctor has it out for them

Fauna karaoke this week

>>38432587
>mid anisong covers and kinda shit gimmick orisongs
no thanks, I get more than enough of that production line shit from the JPside.

That rrat about low performing Nijisanji getting no promotion has been disproven so many times, so why do you people keep on spouting that?
Saying anything about Anykara, but they actually improves on that aspect for low tier livers.

>>38432657
JP/Asia Asians love gambling/gacha.

>>38432587
RIP got that monstrous views due to the novelty of "Anime girl rapping and saying bunch of swear words", anon, not just because it "sounds good".

>>38432681
>Saying the same as yesterday
>Same english level

Has Fauna ever taken a long break?

>>38431874
westerners arent into watching gacha or shiny hunting

>>38432681
>That rrat about low performing Nijisanji getting no promotion
>rrat
>when months ago some exnijiid fans were making their own merch for their oshi since nijisanji wasnt gonna make one.

>>38432741
Probably did because of the spring offcollab but I don't actually remember.

>>38432587
Absolutely delusionnal.

>>38432747
what do you mean? obviously fans need to make their own merch for their oshis, that's fair enough

>>38432681
>Rrat
dyrbi?

>>38431973
Isn't a lot of that "staff" composed of the dev team for Holo Earth?

>>38432681
>has been disproven so many times
>no proof
The absolute state of Nijinigs.

>>38432740
Nah just ignore the niji corpo cocksucker since he doesnt care if their livers get thrown in the garbage or not as long as riku is making money

>>38432681
>Grammarly said this one scored 100 points
Yikes, ESL, you better study English again.

>>38430608
The million miles away cover is ass wdym

>>38432758
In retrospect it's funny how Aia's debut peak was 4x Vox's and 5x Luca's.

>>38432787
fans were making bday merch for their oshis since nijisanji wouldnt release one.

>>38432673
>mid covers
Fuck off

https://youtu.be/s2wIscd82QE
https://youtu.be/YzS26Ao3vt8
https://youtu.be/AAwJ0_uqhb4
https://youtu.be/G4upepd3jAU
https://youtu.be/lbnr0ReWfVQ

These are all amazing and really show off just how versitle a singer Bae is. She can do deep throaty vocals, angelic smooth vocals, cute vocals, and she can even rap with good flow. She is super talented.

>>38432741
2 weeks break on last Christmas&New year.

>>38432315
Laplus, but Mori is mentally tougher because she's American

>>38432859
yes, that's fair, don't want to use the big money of the poor anykara

>>38432865
These covers are good
HOWEVER, she needs to stop selecting Niche choices for music and go all anime fad buff shit like cover Phony or something

>>38432810
>Nijisanji had to cut cost so they outsourced their defense for to low budget flip call centers now.

>>38431973
it's because management is too big
thats the problem too many not too little
look at twitter
elon came and fired 80%
all they were doing was yoga classes
you think most of the people at cover do anything substantial or productive for more than 60% of their workday? but yagoo doesnt have the guts of elon to fire them
look at the developer of holo earth for instance
what has the team done in over a year now? game looks like a middle school project so far.

>>38432758
Should be higher than ILUNA's because less people would watch Aia and Kyo's watchalong.

If they stream in NA times, I'm expecting everyone to crash to earth in a week.

>>38432865
>These are all amazing
Delusional.

>>38432758
Ren got absolutely pump and dumped

Moom beat her peak from last pokemon stream?

I honestly don't give a shit about covers. Orisong or get out.

>>38432859
Wasnt that the same one where anycolor wanted to have a cut of the merch due to some copyright bs?

>>38432910
>>38432315
it's Suisei.

>>38432737
I won't really say its novelty. I don't listen to most of her songs but her first one felt like a RWBY song and those types are somewhat popular.
>>38432865
Hey, if you enjoy them thats fine. Its not for everybody.

>>38432865
She can do one thing okay and one thing only and that's imitating Ado's yell-"singing". She can barely even stay in key half the time and you linking two covers of shit songs and four sub-mid covers isn't going to change that. If you can't handle someone not thinking Bae is god's gift to vocals or entertainment that's on you senpai. She gets shit numbers for a reason.

>>38433009
but Bae wins that too (for council)

>>38432758
>that jump from Luxiem to Noxtyx
I wonder when HoloJP got their crazy debut numbers buff. Between JP3 and JP4? I started Holo the month after JP4 debuted and I can't even remember their debut numbers but I remember Gokishit got like 80k~ I think?

>>38432923
I wouldn't say Animal and Queen are "niche" choices. I agree with you though in the fact that I would LOVE to hear her take on Phony.

>>38433009
i like king covers

>>38433031
Suisei is
>more professional
>cuter
>better dancer
>not an alcoholic

>>38432986
Doenst matter to nijifags as long as riku gets to buy his 2nd yacht.

>>38432910
Laplus is just another Matsuri. Dumb RM menhera shit.

>>38433052
I didn't say that she doesn't.

>>38432865
nta but while Bae has really good covers, they aren't super accessible or well known. Who the fuck has heard of strange before? even a million miles away is too long and not made for repeated listens

Oh God we are entering "JP Mori" timeloop again

>>38432923
I don't care. She is a streamer, 2k floor is just way too embarrassing.

>>38433057
Gen 4 ~ Gen 5

Bae is the stronger BaeRyS

>>38432281
So people would rather do Holo v niji than tall about how youtubers earn money, huh?

>>38433081
exactly, she's better than Mori. but the archetype and position are similar.

>>38433057
Probably the 2020 boom or late 2019 to 2020 boom.

>>38433192
Bae would be 3 views without BaeRyS boost

>>38433038
>her first one felt like a RWBY song and those types are somewhat popular.
That's probably a factor, but RIP actually crept in to normie "rap reactors" sphere too, like you can search any popular rapper/reaction channel and you most likely gonna find some of them reacting to RIP.

>>38433198
This is a vtuber board, not a youtube board. You want us to discuss thumbnails, videocuts, colours in a video and other shit that autists like Mr Beasts care about?

>>38433198
He's not saying anything new
The vid is basically soft power trumps all

>mori's just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks, bae is our savior music-wise for EN
>nah man not interested in infrequent JP-style cookie cutter output
>FUCK YOU SHE'S AMAZING LOOK AT HER JP-STYLE COOKIE CUTTER COVER OUTPUT
are brrats autistic or just retarded?

>>38433150
Shikisei finna get 200k debuts

where da vesp at
where da tempiss streams

>>38433272
>BaeRyS boost
They haven't had an actual collab in months, they probably dont even have overlap anymore.

>>38432923
Only one of those I'd call niche is Strange.

>>38432865
>strange
decent cover, was never going to get views tho
>a million miles away
meh, extremely average, long song so no views
>kokia song
pretty good, her best cover, long song so no views
>the covers with mumei
extremely average from bae, and mumei can't sing in japanese as usual

>>38433192
>>38433272
>>38433298
What's with Nijisis making baet posts and then self replying these days? is this the new meta?
I swear I've seen this pattern 3 times in this thread now

>>38433301
Nah vtubing peaked and now we're on the other side of the curve.

it looks like nijifags were busy in /hlgg/
>>38433001

>>38433081
all of those are also true of Laplus.

>>38433349
Mumeischizo switched over to Bae these days. He's a huge nijifan so that should tell you

>>38433363
Not if Gura pulls a Salome and reincarnated in Gen 7

Please someone save bae...

>>38433301
more than that probably 230k+. holo jp is averaging 110k box/combined views a day. yoy bday/3d live views growth

>>38433283
Because RIP came out when Hololive was fucking huge. Not just RIP/music, Holo clips were getting reacted to and not only but Hololive/vtuber-only reactors.

>>38433400
Yeah but they're equally menhera. Suisei isn't menhera.

>>38433349
its not that new of a meta anon
holo vs holo is always their go to

>>38433423
Mumei about to put some distance between her and nijiEN

Myth Animal at HoloFes?

>>38433349
I mean this is 4chan. What do you expect from this site?

>>38433331
IRyS last stream

>>38433349
What the fuck are you on about? I'm just baffled by the above exchange and why someone would shit their dacks over someone calling Bae mid in fucking /#/.

>>38433301
It's Nanakisei retardbro

Mumei my beloved

>I like Kiara
>I like Bae
>both of them have the lowest number in their gen
Seems like I am just a contrarian.

>>38433272
>>38433331
I never got the BaeRys thing when Bae straight up mentions she likes Roberu early on. Surely there's no point yuri baiting at that point? I understand Kromei in the past but never really got BaeRys.

>>38433423
she clearly needs more tourists from tempiss collabs!

>>38433420
That trick only works with people who stream.

>>38433400
Laplus has alot more baggage. Suisei could have those but if she does, she at least hides them well. Laplus= Gen 6 Matsuri.

>>38433475
Gura and IRyS seem pretty distant and don't really seem to share any mindchair at all. That could explain why IRyS has historically done surprisingly well going head to head with Gura the few times she has done it.

>>38433517
It's a bit they like doing about how they're constantly getting married and divorced. I don't think anyone takes it seriously

>>38433289
Given that you lose your shit over the sc rankings every month and become /biz/lite every so often, yeah I do expect you to discuss thumbnails, videocuts, colours in a video and other shit that autists like Mr Beasts care about

>>38433588
Gura quite literally despises IRyS.

holy shit i traded with mumei i made it in life

guys, Fauna is nice and all, but she pronounces "mischievous" the stupid way, so maybe Faunaschizo was right.

>>38433588
IRyS has historically done surprisingly well going head to head with Gura
Delusional.

>>38433420
They should have done that with IRyS unironically

>>38433517
Because Roberu is Bae's oshi, not love interest. Bae has even said that people shipping her with Roberu is cringe and you shouldn't do it. On the other hand she plays into the IRyS ship hard.

>>38433661
Stop larping as me, schizo. It was I who traded with her.

>>38432309
>80% female audience
That's 160 yumes on fucking CHRISTMAS. That's enough to make the entire holostars profitable. He'll sell out guaranteed

>>38433517
>They watch a male that means SEX

>Leave # for a week
>Some schizos latched onto Bae of all people
Interesting

>>38433517
No one takes these yuriships seriously, retard. It's all for fun.

>>38433293
He also talks about how twitch works and how tiktoks Monetizations works, which amongst other things explains covers tentative forays into tiktok awhile back and also their extremely quick abandonment of the platform

There's also the bit about how youtube creators are earning much more money these few years than they were in 2019, and how merch and creators starting their own businesses play into it. It's actually a decent look into how the money flows in youtube

>>38433661
No you didn't """""Stella"""""""

>>38432681
It's a one time thing in a year and a small one too in a gacha merch run that no one would ever remember and you're saying as if it's good lmao. Even Luna has more shit for her this year than 90% of Nijisanji.

>>38433746
trying too hard, sis

>>38433746
Well that retard who said no one shitposted more about Bae got his wish, at least.

>>38433423
bruh...

Stop arguing about rratsis faggots.

>>38433500
Bae and Kiara are honestly somewhat similar
>Speak JP and try to pander with that, generally fail
>Pretty good with music
>Voices annoy some people
>Stubborn
>Good dancers (supposedly for Bae)
>Runts of their gens
Guess it makes sense that they find themselves in similar positions.

>>38433757
reminder that "unfortunately idol culture is a thing" was because Kronii was getting flamed because she was ok with yuri shipping but not straight shipping

>>38433796
Kek I remember how Cover gave Luna that Yamaha sponsorship after they stallin'd her from Holofes' banner in place of Rushia. Niji would never.

>>38433588
I'm not even sure Gura actually ever mentionned IRyS existence.

>>38433423
>noooo she's really a hidden gem!

>>38430536
Cute white girls

>>38433746
BAE HAS HER OWN SCHIZO NOW
Inclining! some dude in an earlier thread called her Baeschizo
I personally just think it's the same guy switching targets since the usual shitposting against Mumei stopped

>>38433610
Bruh, the stuff I listed would actually be detailed discussion. The SC talk here is barely that. Calling the thread /biz/lite is even overestimating the thread.

I just turned 18 a few weeks ago so I'm finally allowed to post here and I've been wondering for a while now but what the frick does "sister" mean? Most vtuber fans as far as I'm aware are male and I don't know why making comments on certain vtubers makes me a "sister"? Idk if it's derogatory or not but it seems to be used in that way here. Just my two cents.

>>38433796
Luna is more successful and popular than 80% of Nijisanji so I don't get what's the point of the comparison.
Just because low tiers in HoloJP get sponsorships doesn't mean low tier Nijis don't either, especially since low tier Holos are mid tier Nijis.

>>38433926

>>38433887
Nah, even that "she was ok with yuri shipping but not straight shipping" was because she also flamed by the yurifags at first. It's damage control for another damage control for another damage control. That's how much of a fucking clown show the whole Kronii's fiasco was.

>>38433757
Yea but it feels alot like a crackship to me, so I'm surprised people treat it so strongly.

>>38433871
Just enjoy the show

>>38433926
I never got it either sis. I think it's a holokek thing

>>38433887
Nice headcanon, fucktard

>>38433926
>the frick
Lies. A teenager would never pass up the opportunity to swear unnecessarily.

>>38433926
Obese yellow female hands wrote this post

>>38433997
watch streams fucker

>>38433970
Yeah you're right but the point is some of these retards really do take these fake ships VERY seriously

>>38430823
Can you add confirmed reincarnations?

>>38433871
Mumei should try to act more like a cute anime character on stream instead of a normal RL girl.

>>38433926
>Most vtuber fans as far as I'm aware are male
You aren't aware enough.

>>38433610
>/biz/lite
That's a massive overstatement anon, this is a /vsp/ event shitposting thread that never ends. No one here knows shit about streaming, music, math, vtubers or even 4chan. If janny didn't crack shits over pepes and wojacks that's all you'd see here.

>>38434066
Japanese males are extremely good at being tranny

>>38433500
No, you're just deaf

>>38433997
Oh yeah? Care to explain what she really meant in a youtube comment explicitly talking about why ships with girls are ok?
You seem confident so why not provide an explanation

>>38433943
cool where is riksas sponsorship or 3d?

>>38433926
Why did you think anyone would fall for this?

>>38434066
He's not wrong tho. You posting a few girls, doesn't make males=most vtuber fans false. Female fans are rare so vtubers like to showcase them. No shot Towa or say VSPO have more female fans than male.

>>38434115
The comment's gone now so it never happened.

>>38434118
He is getting major TV time in ID, more than Kobo.

>>38433926
Bejitasisters, our lingo, lost in translation...

>>38434066
I need to fuck a kenzoku

>>38434115
Ships with girls are okay because they're not serious and for fun so everyone involved is fine with it.
Ships with males are weird because both parties are not comfortable with it.

The fact that I need to explain this to you is embarrassing, fucktard.

>>38433980
They don't ? It's probably the weakest EN ship in terms of community engagement. In terms of council, it loses to Kromei, Faumei and Krofaumei. In terms of myth, it get absolutely mogged by Takamori, Amesame, Iname and even some sub ship like Takotori.

>>38434092
C'mon, Towa isn't that feminine.

That Eminence in Shadow that Fauna was shilling is pretty fun. Chuuni as fuck and GFE friendly. Perfect for holos talents to shill it.

>>38434115
If you look at the context of the comment, she said het ships are not OK because they lead to drama and harassment

>>38434262
>In terms of council, it loses to Kromei, Faumei and Krofaumei.
No way. I've definitely seen BaeRys stuff alot more than Faumei and Krofaumei. Kromei is an absolute giant tho.

>>38434262
Nah baerys is the 2nd strongest council ship
in terms of mindchair kromei absolutely mogs baerys tho and its not even a competition

>>38433943
>bottom tier nijis get sponsorships and deals
>cites low mid nijis instead of the bottom of the barrel.

>>38434167
Most vtuber "males" are actually women pretending to be men for security reasons.

Just go to Reddit if you don't wanna see schizos

Kromei isnt even a ship

>>38434473
>Just go to Reddit if you don't wanna see schizos
Kek dyrbi, anon?

>>38433943
So only mid tier nijis get sponsorship then since most of the lowest of the lows dont get any sponsorships or care

>>38433898
She had to acknowledge the 2.0 redesign because chat was spamming it but yeah. It's too bad because the one time they actually had some 1 on 1 time during Rust you could see the potential for some great chemistry - they both have brat energy to play off one another but Gura was still in her shell for most of it as she is with new people. IRyS is a great collab partner with pretty much anyone but rarely gets invited except from the rrat.

>>38434473
Tell that to Vesper and Laplus anon...

>>38434473
>He says this when our resident niji intern is the indian from /r youtubers

>>38434255
Nigger can you even fucking follow a comment chain
Nothing you said has anything to do at all with my comment you blind retard.
Point to where you refuted any part of
>reminder that "unfortunately idol culture is a thing" was because Kronii was getting flamed because she was ok with yuri shipping but not straight shipping

As you said you illiterate mongoloid, she is ok with yuri shipping and not straight shipping. Now kill yourself

>>38434323
And I clearly indicated she was not ok with Het shipping

>>38430683
>mio lewds
I am perfectly fine with this. Do not disappoint, miofags

>>38434485
They don't even like each other.

What's the biggest ships in vtubing ? Okakoro and Micomet ?

what's luca doing

>>38434153
>7 (You)s

>>38434485
Yes, it's vtubers. The fuck are these people even talking about.

>>38434262
BaeRyS shit is everywhere, what are you talking about? If you consider AmeSame and Takamori dead than it is #1, otherwise

1. AmeSame
2. Takamore
3. BaeRyS

>>38434635
sexing another female from NijiEN

new niji wave gonna flop so fucking hard

RUN OWL RUN!

>Nijisanji gives as much sponsorships and support to their lower ccv livers like Hololive
>Even though starsjp which is the bottom barrel of hololive production has almost the same or even more support than Nijisanji upper middle and upper tiers.

>>38434262
>>38434654
>amesame

>>38434654
>BaeRyS shit is everywhere
You're absolutely delusionnal. BaeRyS isn't anywhere near close to Kromei and get absolutely mogged by Takamori/Amesame/Iname even with all of the "stream fuel" being dead.

>>38434565
The headcanon part was "Kronii being flamed for being ok with Yuri shipping and not straight shipping."

A dozen retarded comments is not "flaming". The idol culture comment is about how het ships get weird in this fandom, which is why she's not okay with it.

>>38434635
React content his bread and butter

>>38434614
Amesame(GURAME), Pekomiko and Takamori.

>>38434232
ruru rumao

>>38434654
>baerys above kromei
holy delusion. kronii and mumei barely interact or mention each other anymore and still gets more fanart and content than baerys

>>38433926
YWNBAM

Comparing Suisei with Mori should be a bannable offense

>>38434614
miComet, PekoMiko, PekoMari

>>38434092
Reminder that jp chumbies look like this

>>38434722
Micomet has overtaken Pekomiko ages ago and takamori has been dead for months.

>>38434827
male or female

>>38434859
a chumbud

Kek these vultures i swear

>>38434827
ToT

>>38434859
anon...

>>38434836
miComet is a corporate shit and will never be the new PekoMiko

>>38434888
Gotta stay relevant somehow

There isn't a single HoloEN ship alive thats worth a shit. The only one still actually tangible is BaeRys and the two of them have never pretended it's anything but a joke. But there are some desperate yurifags who desperately want it to be a thing after all the Myth ones fell apart.

>>38434888
You're just mad that Council has no new gen to react to

>>38434884
kek

>>38434909
what? I can't tell

>>38434473
Redditors are just schizos with no self awareness anon. They think they aren't parasocial at all.

>>38434836
Doesnt matter if it's dead people want the first ship they got invested in to the point its still popular than active ones.

>>38434941
Sure thing, sis

>>38434709
>>38434745
"Kromei" isn't even a thing. You are fucking insane. BaeRyS is an established ship that is played into by the talents, loved by the fans, and has tons of fanart.

The numberfag in me is sad that when EN3 gets teased, half of HoloEN will probably be on break and no one will be using them as content is NijiEN is doing so right now.

It's free hype content, but Holos are generally very mum until the debuts actually happen and don't do much to hype them up beforehand. I'm not even sure if Gura would retweet the announcement for EN3.

>>38434888
Fuck Luca, I want to know Voxs opinion

>>38434910
Did you mean: miComet is a corporate shit and therefore has become an eternal part of Hololive canon unlike PekoMiko?

>>38435009
Seethe. Baerys gets mogged in all metrics by kromei despite both kronii and mumei not giving a fuck about the ship.

>>38435017
That is the better way to go about it. Vox single handedly knee capped Ren's momentum. Let the new gen establish themselves on their own.

BATTLE OF THE MIDGETS(and bae)

>>38434836
>He doesn’t know
https://youtu.be/2otK0BxAY3M

>>38434654
Here's, in terms of most written about ship on the most popular fanfiction website

>>38435017
Don't fucking pretend the girls would do something this fucking scummy

>>38435076
That was after their debuts and Ren is shit anyways, the collab just exposed him.
Reality is iLUNA and Noctyx's debuts greatly benefitted from NijiEN shilling the shit out of them predebut and it's a missed opportunity for easy hype content.

>>38435111
Ao3 is an english website, though. It favor english pairing.

>>38435124
Mori would

>>38434654
>>38434709
>>38435009
>BaeRyS
>Kromei
True chads know that TimeRyS is better than both. It is the best ship with the best chemistry between both sides of the ship. It is pure kino.

has bae seriously been stuck at high 3ks for hours now?

>>38435017
That's the best way to do it. Let them foster their own community. Why you retards still saying this shit when iLuna is the perfect proof why leaving the new gen alone to establish themselves is always the best approach in the long run.

>>38434941
I don't think a single holomember ever did a stream dedicated to just talking about new members, they mostly go ''Yeahhh that's happening are you guys excited?''

>>38435124
In what world is hyping up upcoming debuts scummy?

Are you going to say Gura ignoring them and then making an random "oh yeah new debuts next week!" during SC reading is better?

>>38435222
Don't associate your tempiss cumdump with my nephilim

>>38435222
Based. Bae doesn't have good chemistry with anyone.
Mumei has better chemistry with Fauna and Gura.

>>38435244

>>38434718
Anon it's ok to admit you don't spend any time on any other websites but 4chan lol.
The only reason she went out of her way to comment on a random clippers channel is because she was getting flamed on twitter. You think she would give a fuck to clarify her stance on yuri ships cause 12 people @ed her
Don't be retarded idiot. I was actually on twitter at the time and it was basically the number 1 thing people were tweeting at her at the time cause they felt like she was being sexist

>>38435222
The ship isn't played into enough to be anything more than a niche sub ship. I agree though that Kronii and IRyS have insane chemistry with each other. IRyS brings something out of Kronii that no other member can do.

It's 2 PM tuesday in japan now so it's about time we address the elephant in the room
>Where the fuck is Vesper

>>38435053
I would rather PekoMiko "ended" in genuine relationship where they're still friends and still interact offstream without pandering to /u/fags than being a corporate ship

>>38435017
Gura will 100% RT and shill new girls and homolovers will get insanely mad

>>38435239
If iLUNA weren't hyped up by every NijiEN member, their debuts wouldn't have cracked 50k and they would've been dead in the water anyways in a week.

>>38435017
>I'm not even sure if Gura would retweet the announcement for EN3.
Kek retard, this ain't homo she will 100% shill them on both twitter and on-stream

>>38435222
Go back to your dogshit split.

>>38435295
Respectfully disagree
All BaeRyS streams (as few as they were) have been much funner than TimeRyS streams for me
MuBae is also better than Kromei but Faumei is better than both

>>38435111
Saplings....we lost again

>ship war
faggot, the lot of you

>>38435461
>war
We are just talking man...

>>38435354
>>38435416
Gura hasn't shilled anyone but herself for months.
She completely ignored Irys's redesign until after the fact, when every HoloEN member not on break was shilling it.

Maybe reformed Gura would do it. She's been more active this week on Twitter than she has in the past few weeks since she got called out be leddit.

>>38435422
The stream where IRyS and Bae dubbed each other was pretty fucking kino. Loved it.