/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>28834483
*Cums on you*

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>28833729
She's playing Holocure, it's kinda bad that she failed to get 10k even taking the overlap into account.
We got screaming and annoying Bae today so the numbers are understandable.

* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *

>69,696: Towa (Hololive)
>52,071: Marine (Hololive)
>44,731: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>44,349: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>41,104: Mumei (Hololive)
>37,771: Miko (Hololive)
>37,306: Calli (Hololive)
>23,779: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>23,037: Subaru (Hololive)
>20,255: Ina (Hololive)
>17,837: Lize (Nijisanji)
>17,717: Botan (Hololive)
>17,633: Flare (Hololive)
>17,360: Hal (Neo Porte)
>14,893: Nui (Nijisanji)
>14,798: Nose (VSPO)
>12,655: Shu (Nijisanji)
>11,776: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>10,998: Luca (Nijisanji)
>10,975: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>10,588: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,416: Leos (Nijisanji)

>>28834630
>JULY 2022 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 43,044 - HoloCure
2) Subaru (Hololive) - 66,433 - Birthday stream
3) AZKi (Hololive) - 74,504 - 3D birthday live
4) Tsukasa (Indie) - 41,447 - Streamer league mahjong
5) Mayuzumi (Nijisanji) - 57,985 - Meschers off-collab
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - Drinking talk w/Laplus
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,216 - DQ11 casino w/Noel
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 37,023 - Unpacking
9) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 164,013 - Koshien 2022 draft
10) Shion (Hololive) - 48,313 - 1 million subs celebration totsumachi
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 61,665 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Shiina (Nijisanji) - 49,387 - Niji Koshien practice
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 70,402 - Uno collab w/Marine, Botan & Polka
14) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 54,165 - Niji Koshien practice
15) Natsume (Nijisanji) - 48,192 - 3D debut
16) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 70,166 - Niji Koshien practice
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,833 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
18) Mel (Hololive) - 67,290 - 4th anniversary 3D live
19) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 62,890 - Niji Koshien practice
20) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 80,534 - Niji Koshien practice
21) Towa (Hololive) - 69,696 - New outfit reveal

>PER COMPANY
11x: Hololive
9x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
5x: Pekora
2x: Ibrahim, Kuzuha
1x: AZKi, Mayuzumi, Mel, Miko, Natsume, Nijisanji, Salome, Shiina, Shion, Subaru, Towa, Tsukasa

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
129x: Hololive
62x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
3x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
23x: Pekora
16x: Aqua, Salome
14x: Kuzuha
13x: Miko
9x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Gura, Hololive, Mio, Suisei, Toya
3x: Chloe, Choco, Flare, Nijisanji, Okayu, Towa
2x: Ange, Fuwa, Ibrahim, Korone, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Mori, Mysta, Polka
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, AZKi, Botan, Chronoir, Debi, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Laplus, Masaru, Mayuzumi, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Natsume, Nene, Noel, Roboco, Rushia, Sango, Shiina, Shion, Sora, Sukoya, Tsukasa, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>28834483
Iluna debut waiting rooms
>>28714465
Tempus debut dates
>>28714602

NijiEN subs growth in the first 24hrs
>>28820131

Contenders for Matsuri's live?

>>28834955
Gwelu 3D

>>28834955
Nijisanji Gwelu 3D debut

>>28834955
https://youtu.be/UL3TxPIrtyc

>>28834955
Gwelu 3D will win today anon.

>>28834955
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBvjuzty32E

>>28835078
lmao

>>28835036
>>28835056
if matsuri still out of the box even with those guests, the gold is on him

why are we dead?

>>28835078
Yo that's Gura. Why is she like this?

>>28835078
Oh god I feel bad because I laughed. I hope she has a good birthday.

>>28835029
>>28835036
>>28835056
No way, he's doing a fucking watchalong for his own stream at the same time. He might have gotten gold if he didn't do that, but nope

>>28835255
We magging

>>28835078
O-oh..

>>28835071
>>28835056
>>28835036
>>28835029
gg pack it home folks

>>28835309
He might win even with the watchalong anon. It's to early to discount the guy.

Bae getting 9.8k with holocure, still has some legs on it. An update again and we'll have some more Holocure days.

>>28834997
kinda funny saw those maggots, do not accept tribal post

>>28835309
Doubt it will affect him if it all. Most people will just watch the stream and let him speaking on the watchalong on another tab

>>28835655
Vampire survivors lasted a pretty long time even with basically no updates. Any sort of substantial update will throw Holocure back into the rotation

>>28834483
Final /news/ roundup for 21-07-2022
>>28784506

Recent Clip Numbers
>>28764408
>>28764483
>>28764945
>>28765038

>>28835655
Pathetic numbers for 1st holocure stream.

>>28835950
And yet good numbers for Bae.

Council is a flop.

For those who missed: 30 days true average, EN (and ID), per gen / wave
>>28799191 :: All EN branches
>>28799946 :: Minus HoloEN, Luxiem
>>28801134 :: Minus HoloEN, Luxiem, plus ID1, 2, 3

Here is the tl;dr: Luxiem had a golden May, Myth had a golden July, Council is shooting up, Noctyx didn't do as good as expected, NijiEN girls inclined, ID girls caught up with NijiEN girls

Kek Mori bragging about the live audience and says it proves vtubers aren't botted

>>28835756
Imagine that there is a timeline were it does affect the outcome.
An scenario were matsuri somehow gets 81k and gweelu only has 80k on his main stream but 20k on his watch along.
I pray that we live in that time line, but sadly the probability states we'll get one of the 14,000,604 outcome.

Mori....nijis are the ones with bots

>>28836357
Who the fuck seriously believed vtubers were botted outside retards /here/
Does Mori seriously browse this retarded shithole? What could have possibly put that idea in her head

>>28836357
>>28836392
She's slightly grudeposting, but good since it's a good proof Kek

>>28836366
cringe

>>28834483
*FINAL GAIJIN TALLY OF THE DAY*
>41,318: Mumei (Hololive)
>37,252: Mori (Hololive)
>20,307: Ina (Hololive)
>12,655: Shu (Nijisanji)
>10,999: Luca (Nijisanji)
>9,432: Amelia (Hololive)
>8,832: Vox (Nijisanji)
>6,416: Moona (Hololive)
>6,309: Shu (Nijisanji)
>5,265: Uki (Nijisanji)

>GAIJIN GOLD SO FAR FOR JULY
1. Mumei (Hololive) - 18,378 (I'm on Observation Duty 5 w/Fauna)
2. Ina (Hololive) - 22,039 (Return Stream)
3. Luca (Nijisanji) - 26,367 (600k sub celebration unarchived karaoke)
4. Mumei (Hololive) - 22,338 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)
5. Kobo (Hololive) – 22,212 (Getting Over It)
6. Gura (Hololive) - 32,780 (HoloCure: Save the Fans)
7. Kiara (Hololive) - 36,856 (3D Birthday concert)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 19,070 (I am Fish)
9. Kobo (Hololive) – 12,130 (Rock Simulator)
10. Lily (Cloud Horizon) – 21,623 (Graduation ceremony)
11. IRyS (Hololive) - 23,882 (1st Anniversary Celebration)
12. Sana (Hololive) – 22,793 (Graduation announcement)
13. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 14,315 (Reviewing viewer dishes)
14. Mysta (Nijisanji) – 21,552 (Genshin Impact gacha)
15. Kobo (Hololive) – 14,834 (Golf It! w/Mori)
16. Kronii (Hololive) – 16,001 (Dark Deception)
17. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,352 (RP ASMR)
18. Selen (Nijisanji) - 18,215 (Obsydia 1 year anniversary celebration)
19. Mumei (Hololive) - 25,551 (Anatomy review w/Calli and Sana)
20. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,804 (The Sims 4 making Iluna House)
21. Mumei (Hololive) - 41,318 (Council & IRyS 3D debut)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 14
Nijisanji – 6
Others - 1

>GOLD PER STREAMER
4x: Mumei
3x: Kobo
2x: Gura, Mysta, Vox
1x: Ina, Luca, Kiara, Lily, IRyS, Sana, Kronii, Selen

>SILVER PER COMPANY
Hololive - 15
Nijsanji - 6
Others - 0

>SILVER PER STREAMER
5x: Kobo
3x: Gura
2x: Vox, Luca, Mori
1x: Uki, Baelz, Mysta, Mumei, Amelia, IRyS, Kiara

>BRONZE PER COMPANY
Hololive - 17
Nijsanji - 4
Others – 0

>BRONZE PER STREAMER
4x: Ina
3x: Kobo, Mumei
2x: Amelia
1x: Shu, Kiara, Luca, Kronii, Fauna, Mori, Moona, Petra, Uki

>MEDAL COUNT
Mumei: 8 (4-1-3)
Kobo: 11 (3-5-3)
Gura: 5 (2-3-0)
Vox: 4 (2-2-0)
Mysta: 3 (2-1-0)
Luca: 4 (1-2-1)
IRyS: 2 (1-1-0)
Kiara: 3 (1-1-1)
Ina: 5 (1-0-4)
Kronii: 2 (1-0-1)
Lily: 1 (1-0-0)
Sana: 1 (1-0-0)
Selen: 1 (1-0-0)
Mori: 3 (0-2-1)
Amelia: 3 (0-1-2)
Uki: 2 (0-1-1)
Baelz: 1 (0-1-0)
Shu: 1 (0-0-1)
Fauna: 1 (0-0-1)
Moona: 1 (0-0-1)
Petra: 1 (0-0-1)

>>28836314
Nijisanji has truly declined.
You guys think the actions of their new members on Twitter could've contributed to this decline?

Matsuri will get ~60k and you will all act like it's a disaster even though it's amazing numbers for her channel.

>>28834483
>>28834545
>>28834934
Who is this she's cute

Ayyo Garden whatcha doin'

>>28836873
Anon, who the fuck would consider 60k a disaster for a chuuba with her highest peak so far on 49k?

>>28836664
hey, I just want the setup for such a shitedit. But don't worry nijibro it wont happen.

>>28836873
Don't lowball Matsuri. She's back in the box. I'd say 70k at least

>>28836859
No lol, this is actually the so called 'natural recline' that comes from new people getting board of you, Luxium had a delayed reaction because it took them a while for their CN audience to find them, they're basically falling off Debut buff right now

>>28836357
>>28836392
OH NO NONONOOO LUXIEMKEKS?

To help temper expectations for the boys debut, here is
>EVERY
stream over 10k for the Holostars, including their main channel.

>peak :: date :: title (nameEn) :: video_id
>21877 :: 2022-03-19 :: 【#つながるホロライブDAY1】「わちゃスタ」出張版『ホロスターズYAGOO 本音対談!』 (Holostars Official) :: hG9EjmQhliY
>18118 :: 2022-03-20 :: 【#つながるホロライブDAY2】「わちゃスタ」出張版『一致団結!プレッシャーホロスターズ!』 (Holostars Official) :: zRDDJDv3Dqk
>17039 :: 2021-03-10 :: 【#夕刻ロベル3D】夕刻ロベル3Dお披露目配信! (Yukoku Roberu) :: c4OSDfUJ0yk
>15075 :: 2021-03-26 :: 【 #深夜男子UNO 】深夜にUNOをするとこうな (Rikka) :: CKxX-gl842Q
>14926 :: 2021-07-10 :: 【#影山シエン3D】お前達、3Dお披露目開始だ!!!!! (Kageyama Shien) :: FUEHGqqOTFk
>14623 :: 2021-12-07 :: 『#アステルレダ3D』未来へ、One Two Shine / ホロスターズ (Astel Leda) :: qNRR8cyGMaY
>11283 :: 2021-07-24 :: 【#荒咬オウガ3D】背中で語る男の3Dお披露 (Aragami Oga) :: Hw7WqfV7H0c
>10704 :: 2022-03-29 :: 【初配信】妖の万屋...現る!!!!夜十神封 (Yatogami Fuma) :: pfMyfFGBPoc
>10506 :: 2022-03-29 :: 【初配信】あなたのお時間、頂きに参上します...羽継烏 (Utsugi Uyu) :: YNi-2CJ6E6Y

Yep, that's it. 9 streams over 10k so far.

>>28836911
You haven't spent time in numbers long I see. This is a meme for a reason

You are here
>Not even 10k? Pathetic
>Not even 20k? Pathetic
>Not even 30k? Pathetic
>Not even 40k? Pathetic
>Not even 50k? Pathetic
>Not even 60k? Pathetic
>Not even 70k? Pathetic
>Not even 80k? Pathetic

>>28836314
Someone said that Council's recent uptick is because Bae wasn't streaming and killing the average and I'm inclined to believe that.

>>28836357
why? what the fuck? being a part of umg has made her a numberfag?

>>28837016
How the fuck did Rikka get there with UNO

>>28836911
Where have you been, /#/ acts like anything less than 70k for a holo 3D live is failure.

>>28837049
Did the Roberu thing decidedly kill any momentum for Bae?

>>28837049
I say Matsuri gets 70k if Pekora funnels for her.

Which one is worse? Ollie or Bae?

>>28837096
They invited Lofi

>>28837080
Dumbass, Mori has always been a numberfag. She's just less of a numberfag than she is a dramawhore

>>28837016
Can't wait to see the records getting magged.

>>28837080
Uh anon? Mori is the nr 1 numberfag of HoloEN. Except she's song numberfagging and couldn't give less of a shit about cee cee vee.

>>28837172
Iofi

>>28837156
No one cared about Bae to begin with because Bae has no consistent schedule and also no stable buff content

When you think of Bae, what kinds of streams come to mind? You can't think of anything, and it's not because she doesn't stream, she just doesn't do anything interesting, unique, or consistent

Who will be the 1st homo en to play holocure?

>>28837156
Roberu collabs were more like a mercy kill.

>>28837123
I would say that the minimum ccv for a successful 3D live is 100k.

>>28837168
Not gonna happen. Pekora doesn't stream that early.

>>28836910
Holy shit that's bad
Actual fucking 3view

https://bang-dream.com/v_audition
Bushiroad, makers of Weiss Schwarz and Cardfight Vanguard, sponsor of Link your Wish Holo 3rd fest, has opened auditions for a Vtuber branch of their Bang Dream Project

>>28837096
I mean...
>Takuya Eguchi
>Amatsuki
>Mayuzumi
UNO with a pretty good line up

>>28837382
She does for her friends. Now, is Festival her friend?

>>28837408
When will these guys learn that this kind of thing never works out, there have been like a hundred attempts and they always fail

>>28836314
in the next few months, if Tempus can match ID2 numbers, i'll consider it's a success. for niji6, probably ID1 is enough

>>28837382
Pekora does stream early when she wants to funnel, just this month alone she funnels for three events

Azki with 59k
Subaru with 38k
Mel with 42k

She also ended stream and went to Part C for shion's totsu

>>28837549
Well the Rust shenanigans helps her case

>>28837049
>>28837156
While it is true that Bae drags the Council average down it did incline all the same with or without her

I will lay it out right now, if Iluna isn't bigger than Obsydia, it's a flop. If Tempus is bigger than Finana, it's a success

>>28837816
Are you saying that Finana is a bar for success???

Lmao /mag/ not only btfo the nijiniggers but also starting to turn /stars/ into a new /hlgg/ hahahahahaha.

>>28837637
Well then I just don't know anymore.

>>28837816
Nah, doing 1k as a base after the debit buff is over should be the goal to see if its a sucess or not.

>>28834934
Tempus waiting rooms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRTOfhbdbn0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBQtnouQqgY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m2Gzca26I8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-8u6VPH92k

>>28837919
Unironically yes. Because she is a NijiEN female, if the boys do better as a whole than one of them, you can say confidently, they are bigger than NijiEN female

>>28837998
Mate Sana is literally graduating. She's finally pumping numbers into Council...one way

I don't want the stars to succeed...

>>28838092
Mag more
>>28837472
>>28837095

>>28837156
Bae hasn't been able to figure out her niche other than being a homo lover.
She's supposed to be the dancer of the group but 3D is like 8 months away for Council seeing how Japan refuses to open up.

>>28801449
The answer to this is very complex imo.
For the first year of Myth, I would say that Hololive management very likely prevented every single outside collab because they were surprised by their success and didn't want to rock the boat too much. This is ALSO the likely reason they didn't let them collab with Coco.

Once Coco graduated though, and Myth was considered a lot more "stable", the outside collabs started pouring in one by one. Ina-Pikamee in July 2021, Mori-Milky Queen in November etc. etc. And now HoloEN has occasional outside collabs when they're not too busy with work or internal collabs.
And as of right now, HoloEN is generally accepting of outside collabs as long as the partner is vetted and not a yab machine.

Notably, July 2021 was around the time that Pomu and Kiara first started interacting with each other, and mentioning each other on streams. Which matches up with this timeline.

There was also this incident back in October where Kiara talks about her Pomu collab request getting rejected (clipper is a shitter, but it serves the purpose : https://youtu.be/eMQF7VPADI8).
Obviously at the time, due to the prior history of HoloEN, a lot of casuals could be easily convinced that it was a block from the HoloEN side. But if you check her words, Kiara specifically avoided mentioning which side blocked it, and called it "weird" at the same time. And Kiara has never had any qualms about calling out bullshit from HoloEN management. But she would be more restrained about shitting on some other company's management, since it's not good PR.

This was obviously during the early days of NijiEN, and just like Myth, it might be somewhat understandable if they wanted to stabilize their branch a bit more before going for outside collabs.
If you noticed the trends /here/ since then, every single time a HoloEN-NijiEN collab is mentioned, there's always at least one or two Nijishills trying to discredit it and spread FUD about it, saying that the block was OBVIOUSLY from HoloEN. And for the most part, people were willing to go with that, due to HoloEN's history.

But in recent times, this block has come into question after even Ollie's request for a Selen collab got blocked, but then she was permitted to collab with Gundou.
Again, this was blamed on HoloEN management's all-encompassing power to control HoloID management, but at that point the reasoning was starting to fray a little bit, and people were starting to question it.
And now, with both Kiara and Pomu vaguely confirming that there was a Video message sent to Pomu from Kiara, the narrative has completely shifted, and you can see the nijishills stretch the limits of believability in trying to control the narrative.

With that established, the NijiEN side block does seem VERY weird. HoloEN has absolutely nothing to lose from collabing with NijiEN at this point, but NijiEN management seems to think that it would be a net negative for them. I can think of several reasons why they might be blocking it -

> Afraid of their relatively isolated few "new" audiences finding HoloEN and jumping ship?
> Afraid of their talents showing more chemistry with those outside the company than those within it?
> Afraid of talents building up rapport with Holomembers and eventually getting poached? Maybe?
> Afraid that doing too many HoloEN collabs would brand their livers as "honorary holos" similar to what happened with Shoto?
> Afraid that the collab would be PR disaster for some reason? (maybe due to the Discord leak? idk).

A lot of it is striding the line of schizohood, but I still haven't seen any compelling arguments from the NijiEN side on why they are blocking it.

>>28837382
>>28837623
Inb4 Pekora cooking stream.

>>28838082
While that's true, if you look at >>28837637 and >>28836314, the current Council inclined started in mid June.
My guess is that Holocure put eyes on them

HAHAHAHAHA THEY ARE COPYING NIJIEN WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING OMEGA YOU MASSIVE FAGGOT
https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1550329791311536131

>>28838082
Nah the incline happened before Sana graduation announcement, it's unrelated

>>28837623
Dude the azki one and Subaru one happen on weekend(which she usually have more flexibility in her slot) while Mel 3D slot is 22:00 jst which is not usual 3D slot. Matsuri slot is at 20:00 jst which is usually the earliest weekday stream for pekora.

>>28838251
>Ollie
>Bae
Does anyone actually care if it's these two

>>28838236
>And now, with both Kiara and Pomu vaguely confirming that there was a Video message sent to Pomu from Kiara, the narrative has completely shifted, and you can see the nijishills stretch the limits of believability in trying to control the narrative.
Literally none of them confirmed anything about which side blocked what.

>>28838311
no, but the possibility of Ollie and Bae bringing others not named Mori into their collab is open

>>28838360
t. Nijishill
NijiEN blocked it.

>>28838203
Dancer doesn't sound like a great niche for a streamer

>>28835267
Don't insult Gura like that

>>28838251
No one actually cares about these two though. And knowing Ollie, she's probably the one that begged management to do it (A-chan's job is literally being a corpo shill so of course she'd be on board).

>>28838360
If hololive blocked it Kiara would never have been able to even send a video under the name Kiara. It would have never reached Pomu. Its clearly Nijisanji blocking it since Kiara did send a video recording of her model.

Get magged Nijisisters

>>28838360
That's true, there is no confirmation but it would be damn weird if the scenario was
>Kiara sends a bday message
>HoloEN management blocks it after the fact
>Pomu respects HoloEN block and doesn't show, but mentions it

Occam razor says this is more likely
>Kiara sends a bday message
>NijiEN management blocks it
>Pomu doesn't show, but mentions it

>Ollie is actually overlapping Matsuri live tonight
bros, we're in for BIG number!!!!!!!!!!

>>28837318
Bae's done some decent gimmick streams in the past such as the dubbing with Irys. She's supposedly fit and a good dancer, so she would benefit from 3D. However, she'd rather spend time playing games that she's horrible at.

>>28837408
>Vband
Somewhat I'm interested

>>28838493
You don't know that. The video could have been of Kiara's RM, and that's why Pomu couldn't show it. There's zero confirmation of what the actual cause might be

>>28838602
Wasn't Matsuri supposed to be Ollie's oshi?

>>28837408
Didin't they already create a vtuber brach, then let it wither harder than VERSEn?

>>28838604
>Bae's identity as a streamer is Baerys
I REST MY CASE

>>28837172
Bae at the very least simps for a fellow vtuber in her own company and can keep it comical, ollie shamelessly wetting herself over c*nnor is just embarrassing

>>28838639
Kson was supposed to support her genmates even after graduation but she streams over their 3D lives like literally every time.
Most Holos are VOD gang.

>>28838625
NTA, of course we don't now what actually happened and could be either Holo management, Niji management or even both blocking it, but for almost a year everybody has been sperging that "fuck Hololive, they don't let them collab with anybody, Hololive black company" and all that shit when all the evidence seems to show that it's actually the opposite but people prefer to come up with the craziest narratives just to confirm that "holo bad, holo black company"

>>28838625
You guys are seriously stretching now if you think that's even a remote possibility.

>>28838714
Or they just hate each other

>>28838796
Cover is a black company though. Just because they aren’t the ones preventing Kiara from collabing with some /b/tard slut doesn’t mean they aren’t shit

>>28838796
>>28838858
It's not reaching, I'm just saying there's absolutely no reason to believe it can't be hololive management responsible or that it must be nijisanji management.

>>28838924
The only thing I want in life is that all the NEETs like you saying that Cover is a black company, get to work even a single day in your life to realize what a real black company is

>>28837919
Finana is leeching off Hololive. If Tempus are able to surpass her, that's obviously a success for them.

>>28837156
Unironically latching onto the stars will help bae more than hurt her because as another anon said, she has no signature content. Being the holoEN male 'ambassador' for lack of a better term is something she can run with and grow into a proper driving force to her channel that she can even expand on outside of homoen. It might fuck up her superchats and make /vt/ seethe but it's better than her current slide into total irrelevance

>>28838625
Nah. I don't believe that rrat. Hololive is pretty hands off with RMs. If Kiara did that approach I'm sure it would have gone through. They wouldn't have been saying it was Kiara's if it was from her RM.

>>28836357
lmao shots fired at nijikeks

>>28838251
You okay?

>>28838937
Of course. There is no reason to believe it can't be Phase Connect management running interference and pulling some strings to prevent it from happening too, but like the theories you put foward, they're retarded if compared with the simplest one

>>28838937
but there is a reason, in that it is significantly more likely for it to be due to niji management., as pointed out by >>28838592

>>28836357
Truly the flagship of EN

>>28838236
Looking back at it again, lazulight to ethyria had their talents lists goals of "spreading the love of niji" as first. My theory is that they want to build up their brand name and strengthen it by only showing Nijisanji rather than leeching of from Hololive. Every vtuber fan acknowledges that Hololive dominates the global vtubing mindspace, even now so they want to at least breach it on their own rather than only being associated as friend A of Kiara from company A.

>>28838714
Kson never cared for Hololive.

>>28839014
Bae's signature content is doing guerilla zatsus during overlap hell, but she doesn't really have anything to talk about and ends in an hour.

>>28839067
Even if it might be more likely, and it isn't, that doesn't mean hololive management isn't still the one at fault, and that possibility cannot be discounted. It's better to blame both company's instead of unjustly blaming nijisanji for what could be entirely hololive's fault

>>28839014
No, that's terrible, why would she change her entire channel identity into HoloStars shill? It's a good thing you aren't advising her.
Bae is doing fine. If she needs a specialty, now that she can do smol home3d, how about getting really good body tracking and doing dance streams or something?

>>28839107
thanks for building the brand name for Luxiem, lazukeks

The whole /mag/ meme is breaking containment and being magnified by Reddit.
Will he end up being a success?

>>28839161
>and it isn't
Lmao cope you stupid nijifaggot.

>>28839194
No

>>28839161
Wow, this is a genuine unironic nijishill here. Holy shit rumao.

>>28839107
And they completely failed at it. Most of the people know them as Holo rejects that's why they never took off because of the Holo-lite stigma.

>>28839194
It's not sufficient to make him a success. But in my opinion it's a much better starting point than he would have otherwise.
He has a (relatively) high amount of meme interest, so now the onus is on him to convert that into true fans.

>>28839161
>blaming nijisanji for what could be entirely hololive's fault
Have you ever read this board in the last, idk, 13 months? It's literally what people have been saying but Hololive being the bad guy with literally ZERO proofs of anything besides schizo rumblings and unbelievable rrats

>>28839194
Most definitely. His waiting room numbers have already surpassed Finana's everage.

>>28839194
Hopefully he can freely mag now.

>>28839194
No, but it gives him a glimmer of hope rather than being dead in the water like 90% of Holostars. His design is a death sentence unless he turns himself into a meme.

>>28839141
That's another problem of Bae's she doesn't have shit to talk about in her life. She's fucking bad at Zatsu since she can't fill dead air without being loud and annoying, she has no interests she can talk about to engage chat without relying on their input

>>28839264
>>Most of the people know them as Holo rejects
>/here/
>most people
General viewers don't care about "holoreject" bullshit

>>28839285
But it still might be Hololive's fault. You can't just deflect blame onto Nijisanji with no evidence

>>28838659
It's still alive.
This one is connected to a big IP though
>>28838623
Don't get your hopes up. Knowing how to play an instrument is not required

>>28839312
Actually, what the hell does she do on her off time anyways?
Kiara, IRyS and Fauna can talk for hours about the most mundane shit but Bae really needs superchats to talk about something.

>>28838251
Eh, I'll give them this one.
The boys need all the help they can get.
I just hope this won't be the norm moving forward though

>>28839343
Finana has less than 1k viewers so yeah most of her viewers were aware somewhat.

>>28839357
The opposite is also true, retard

>>28839357
rumao

>>28839264
Most people just didn't know/care about NijiEN, the whole "holo-rejects" thing is you thinking /here/ reflects reality.

>>28839390
It's because Bae doesn't talk about herself or her life.

>>28838625
You're fucking brain-dead if you think Kiara sent a roommate birthday message to Pomu who then mentions it on stream as fucking Pomu.

>>28839357
I'm done with you, unironically kys

>>28839423
That has more to do with her being an immature retard with horrible game choice, not because she's a holoreject

>>28839444
Hey now, that's just plain wrong
That's literally what she does in talk streams

>>28839468
Educate yourself

>>28839390
Thats just the difference between a competent streamer and an incompetent one

>>28839166
Bae really isn't doing fine at all. She's practically the Aki of HoloEN, except with Koreans instead of EoPs

>>28839468
In Finana's and I think Pomu's case, they were actual holo rejects. The point however is that no one outside of here cares about it and uses it to make fun of them.

Luxiem discord trannies are unironically raiding multiple thread. What happened ????

>>28839496
Improve yourself

>>28839390
>Fauna can talk for hours
I MISS MOMMY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>28837049
>>28837637
It's a shame since Bae is capable of pulling decent numbers. She just needs to figure out what works for her like in February and stick to it. Consistency is important in building a base that lasts.

>>28839557
There's doomposting and then there's straight up lying.
Don't compare Akirose to Bae.

>>28839194
did Morbius succeed ?

>>28837919
For Stars? Yeah I think so. If they can regularly outperform Niji girls they're doing better than I'd expect.

>>28839312
>>28839390
Actually Bae can talk about stuff fine, her last zatsu stream was pretty fun and she always talks about her life most of the time
The problem is that her zatsus are really short, she needs to go longer

>>28839489
Then why do I know almost nothing about her after listening to them?

>>28839618
She can’t really be consistent when she’s still in school, Mumei is going to fall out of her rhythm as well soon cause of it.

>>28839468
People actually don't take Holo reject title as a slight. In fact it's more of a badge of honor thing proving they were upto standards.

>>28839640
yes, yes you've discovered the hideous plan of the Morbius meme. It was all done leading up to this moment to shill for a holostar. Get ready for magging out

>>28839312
Anon, I don't think you watch Bae
All she does is talk about is how her life went the day before

>>28839640
morbius was financially successful

>>28839618
The answer is always minecraft.
It's so weird how hard it is for HoloEN to start a minecraft project and stick with it.
In Bae's case, it feels like every minecraft stream is just a "random idk" stream.

>>28839730
That guy is obviously shitposting.

>>28839726
Stay MAGGING

>>28839166
You obviously don't understand anything if you think the only possibility is 100% stars shill. Do you think Roberu's Bar Robel for an example, makes his channel an indie/niji shill channel?

>>28838251
>Ollie and Bae
You're really showing you don't know anything, Nijifag.
>>28838311
They've been pro-stars and unity since their debuts. This is entirely expected.

Cover is a black company. The management doesn't care if the talents are getting harrassed.
Hololive talents hate each other's gut behind the scene. Just look at how Pekora and Miko fell apart. Also look at how fake the council 3D debut was.
There is no future for hololive as the branding was used to shill unsuccessful products like HoloError and HoloEarth. Cover is in deep debt now due to Yagoo biting more than he can chew. That is why he is scared to IPO as you need to show the world your account book if you go public.

>>28839702
Why are ---->(You)<----- like this?

>>28839690
That's because you don't watch her, let's disregard numbers here, to say Bae doesn't talk about her life is just factually wrong lmao, that's literally all she does

>>28838625
>RM
Get a load of this retard.

>>28839166
That's called expanding her reach.

>>28838924
>black company
Nice joke, anon. Keep them coming.

>>28839803
no u

>>28839806
Yeah he's full of shit.
Bae talks about her dad doing construction and multiple friendtaros all the time. The problem is moreso most of the stuff she talks about isn't interesting enough to maintain a large audience. It's like literally tweets in the form of a stream.

>>28839804
Stop being in denial.
Kson and Nazuna are huge not because they are overwhelmingly more skilled than their competition. Getting acknowledged by Holos can change one's career trajectory.

28839803
Ummm, anon, you need to be subtle instead of going full schizo, look, you a lost a you already because you made it too obvious.

>Kronii and Bae fuck each other out of good numbers with overlap
>Both end at the same time so neither gets the funnel from the other
These women...
They're moving Chadcast too so Mysta's going to win cripple gold with his return stream.

>>28839870
Yeah I can agree on that, it's not really interesting unless you are a fan of Bae
Another problem is that Bae only streams her zatsu for like an hour or so which is very short.
I think she should switch her zatsus to playing minecraft while talking in the background, that will help her out tons

first time seeing Nijien on my YT recommendation, should I make a new account bros?

>>28839987
Yes

>>28839959
Bae can’t play and talk at the same time, she hyper focuses for whatever reason.

Bae's problem is the exact opposite of her never talking about her life, it's that she doesn't talk about anything else like hobbies or interests. Sana can talk about art, Mori can talk about music, Gura can talk about feet, Bae isn't exactly super insightful about anything

>>28840018
She just needs to play more games and focus on talking rather than playing
Minecraft is pretty much an autopilot game anyways

>>28840026
wrong, bae can talk about roberu but she choose not to

>>28839959
>I think she should switch her zatsus to playing minecraft while talking in the background, that will help her out tons
For a while, she was using powerwash sim as a replacement which was better than nothing. The problem with doing zatsus often is you do run out of stories to talk about (unless you're Fauna and Irys and you just keep digging deeper into the past). The short 1hr zatsus are because she's out of things to say since it's mostly current events.

>>28839870
>most of the stuff she talks about isn't interesting enough
I'm sure asians have a lot of crazy stories to tell. I feel Bae is just self-conscious not to get labeled as weird.

>>28839987
Actual evidence of incline

>>28839987
You can just click don't recommend channel

>>28840026
>gura can talk about feet
lol, more like gura can ramble on for hours about whatever weird shit pops in her head or that she watched on YouTube lol

>>28839557
>>28839638
Aki actually has signature content, unlike Bae. She's just cursed because the universe is her anti.

All of Bae's problems are of dkvggmher own making.

Some other plots I'm working on, basically lets you compare the number distributions
on this example you can see that mori is a sub10k streamer and gura a 20k streamer
wanna expand this to make comparisons between branches, companies and whatnot
for now I only have holos

>>28839987
That's the advantage of paying for Youtube ads.
Hit don't recommend then report for sexual content.

So will the homos get debut hype for some EN golds or people will just show up for the debut and GTFO?

>>28840119
That's a good visualization.

What type of numbers do you need to make this? I can provide it for you

>>28840076
Bae won’t even publicly admit she knows Cantonese. Reminds me of the hot water thing which is a Chinese thing.

>>28840119
Go for it, anon.

>>28840119
Make a massive chart and dump it all at once so it dominates a whole thread

>>28840102
What was that mini stroke lol

>>28840143
We don't even know if they'll be 3views, forget about cripple gold.

>>28839987
>do not recommend
The more people that do it the less it'll try to push those to people watching Hololive as it'll break the association.

>>28840143
Depends how memorable their debut and first week is.

>>28840131
>Hit don't recommend then report for sexual content.
This. Nijisanji always has sexual content, so you'll never be misreporting

>>28840101
I wish we can have a Fauna Gura collab talking about fashion

>>28840165
I basically dumped all of holostats
gonna dump vstats for nijis, what is your source?

>>28840119
This will actually be nice to see, good work anon.

>>28840119
Check you code anon, Mori's graph has positive density at negative CCV

>>28840119
Why does ccv go to -10000?

>>28840228
I hope to fucking god they actually planned a whole month ahead. They have at least one experienced content creator, so I'm hoping they can take whenever Debut buff they get and run away with it

Aruran actually managed to top Finana with 1.2k

>>28840283
Reminds me of that Latina niji with the huge model buff planning to do fujo VN on the first week

>>28838625
the nijikek mental gymnastics are reaching a level that shouldn't even be possible

>>28840290
It's starting
THE TURN TABLES

>>28840246
That'd be nice, maybe they could do a viewer submission review stream

>>28840119
Looks good. Always wanted to see something like this that took raids into account or something for vods.

>>28840290
Nope

>>28840210
>>28840102
Oh, so that's where my captcha went to...

>>28840270
>>28840271
that's how normal distributions work

>>28839956
You really think they care about about EN gold? Mysta would win even without overlap with a return stream anyway. Kronii wasn't going to get huge numbers on something like Fire Emblem and Bae was too shit at Holocure to attract any tourists (which are mostly spent for that game anyway).

>>28840338
Yeah, because Gura is always concern if her viewers are not into girly stuff, having Fauna with her helps.

>>28840373
>You really think they care about about EN gold?
They don't, my frustration is only isolated in this thread for the cripple horserace. The Kronii stream was actually pretty good so her number was pretty BS imo.

JESAS...
Tempus subs will pass through Uproar probably not much time after the debuts and will definitely get more CCV as well... I never noticed it was THIS bad

https://youtu.be/Xg09Qsf5xsE
Wait they're actually doing this on the Hololive channel?
Kek, fuck you Omega

>>28840119 (me)
and for example, I can change the date to do the same to compare this time mori with pekora on the whole year

>>28839557
She's fine, she has a bit lower CCV, but don't underestimate the Koreans. She has the second highest amount of superchats in council behind Kronii

>>28840338
Speaking of review streams, I'll be disappointed if Mumei doesn't do more anatomy review streams.
There's a sea of fanart to pick from and she just needs to grab any combination of 2 Holos to do it.
Wouldn't be hard to do it once every few months with different guests.

>>28840373
It's not about gold, but eliminating the possibility of viewers moving from one stream to another. Whether people like it or not numbers determine if something gets remembered or not. Also a lot of people skip on vods.

Someone make an edit with this template for the different schizos and shills in this thread

>>28840458
Different language, different market.

>>28840458
I think when he was playing nier he was legitimately slipping into the two digit tier.

>>28840458
Uyu and Rio are closer to being 2views than being 500-medians so yeah. Holostar expectations are so fucking low.

Save her... be her hero... please...

>>28840249
I've got holostats, vstats, mado and vrabi but if you have your scrapers going there isn't a lot I can dump more than you already have

>>28840484
Probably won't have quite to same pull without Sana giving art class critiques, but people will always show up for lewd art.

>>28840317
that latina is a legit fujo irl tbf. it was expected

>>28840624
Such a waste of a model.

>>28840476
Mori isn't that big

>>28840590
Nobody can save low-views in Nijisanji. Too many members. No company box. No hope.

>>28839557
Bae should abandon US primetime and stream on Asia primetime. This slot still hasn't been occupied by any holoEN. Based on Gura's statics chart more than 50% of her fans are from Asia.

>>28840458
Uyu is like the bottom of the barrel of the bottom of them barrel.
No idea what the fuck he's doing, but he's much lower than even the 2nd lowest Holostar.

>>28840565
Playing Nier, especially near debut, is like wearing a sign saying kill my numbers.
I'm actually worried some of the StarsEN will play it. Regis seems to be a Zelda fan so it's looking grim because that shit kills numbers too.

>>28840590
Chigusa only get those numbers in collabs. in solo streams she gets over 1.5k. dont ask me why

>>28840624
Speaking of, does she speak Spanish? Like at all?

>>28840590
Anon she is not even the lowest Niji on that collab... Muyu is also losing to a fucking VTA stream

>>28840590
I caught a recent stream of hers live (bday). If the rrats are true she could have easily been Nene and people wouldn't know the difference.
Hell, I wouldn't doubt she could sub in for Nene during her break and people wouldn't notice.

>>28840699
check her tweets

>>28836901
天凪える/Amanagi El

>>28840544
This is just /hlgg/, /NijiEN/ and /#/.

>>28840425
Maybe Kronii could have reached 10k without Bae overlapping, but I doubt the ability of a musou game to draw a big audience in the West.

>>28840687
Naw, Uyu, Rio, and Aruran share the basement of Holostars. They're all pretty close.

>>28840699
NTA and no idea, but I can only imagine the drama from a NijiES.

>>28840590
collab with botan

>>28840544
There's like 10 different schizos here anon. It would be better if we have a numberfag version of this comic instead.

>>28840317
we have no idea what are their schedule faggot
>>28840696
one of the voltaction is playing nier 4 times on his debut week and he got much more than him

>>28839987
I only see two Guras there, what do you mean

>>28840722
Writing/=Speaking

>>28840648
the density basically tells you how many streams she had on that CCV, in this case mori has MOST of her streams in the 10k range while pekora is on the 30k range
gonna add labels to make it more readable

Is this facken real

>>28840707
That’s depressing

>>28840771
>he got much more than him
I mean no shit lol.
For all the shit people give VTA flop gens, they're still far stronger than StarsJP. That guy in particular shouldn't be getting borderline 1k CCV in his debut week, but he is because he decided to do Nier.

>>28840743
>Naw, Uyu, Rio, and Aruran share the basement of Holostars. They're all pretty close.
Anon, you need to update your mental model of Holostars.

Aruran joined the rest of the boys on the over 500 median, Temma is the lowest ranked pre UPROAR star

>>28840590
YAGOO SAVE HERO!

>>28840722
Typing a few words in Spanish doesn't mean she speaks it anon, what she wrote anyone could write if they studied spanish in school at all, that doesn't indicate fluency in the language. Plus if she does but she has a gringa accent it'll be a huge debuff.

>>28840819
>Russian text
You tell me

>>28840771
Did you miss her tweet where she already said she’s planning to do fujo VN content?

>>28840802
yea i misread that kek

>>28840819
I told you rust is the final fucking yab, just give it time

>>28840903
Isn’t she Asian?

>>28840707
I WILL NEVER STOP POSTING THIS

>>28840903
I could see a light accent being sexy ngl

>>28841048
>gringa accent
>sexy
Huh? What the fuck are you on anon? Gringa accents sound like ass.

>>28840866
Considering how much Aruran streams his CCV also underrepresents the number of fans he has unless he's followed by all NEETs.

>>28840590
Imagine rejecting hololive to join nijisanji as a woman

>>28841048
Sexy maybe, but a debuff with the intended community it was supposed to be targeting.
Very few things are as derided as
>Hola fellow latinos, what about those tacos eh?
It doesn't work in politics, it doesn't work in entertainment

>>28840590
>Welcome to HoloKR gen 1

Calli actually jumped into the magtrain...

was there a site that showed word clouds for chat or do you have to compile that manually?

>>28840590
It actually hurts seeing her end up like this. There's a timeline out the where she performed at holofes instead

I'm becoming pretty convinced that the EN stars are going to absolutely destroy the JP stars in CCV, even after debut buff. I know, not a big challenge or whatever. But boy I bet that's gonna make them feel weird

>>28840948
yes,she said this, but nothing about it being in her first week
>>28841005
Muyu is the only underperforming. Yotsuha and Ponto got a good fanbase. Both in the range of 2k and 1.5k.

>>28840699
Yeah

>>28841190
>>28841338
did she really? was it for gen 5 audition or?

>>28841396
They probably are going to be only below Roberu and Astel in ccv

>>28841332
vrabi
https://vrabi.net/video/dtwGLf5zd8k

>>28841332
vrabi does, but not for every stream

>>28840972
It's not even real.

>>28841396
Black ships again...

>>28840819
reminds me when chinks entered Coco's ARK server

>>28841480
thanks
>>28841484
ah, i was wondering why I couldn't find them when i checked

>>28840707
>graduates vta and joins niji proper
>gets lower numbers than current vta members in a collab
Life is grim

>>28840819
>facebook

>>28840590
If she could turn back time, you guys think she would sung VTL still cause I think that was what caused her downfall. She never recovered ever since.

>>28840590
she made her choice.

>Gura's dumbass duolingo VOD from last year went from 2m to 2.2m views

>>28841565
Which Holo would cause the biggest hit show if they sang VtL

>>28841396
in the words of arupapa
>yeah, we laid the groundwork for them and I it would make me happy if they surpass us
>I'm expecting them to be at 50k subs on debut
kinda like the roboco/sora situation on holoJP

>>28840866
>Only Roberu has 1k median
Yeah... the EN guys could be big flops but they are still getting at least that much

>>28841618
I still get recommended that VOD for no good reason. I watched it live all the way through and Youtube is just desperate for me to revisit the memory.

I thought Iluna was going to send the stock price to the moon, guys.

>>28841662
Luna

>>28841466
Well, how much spanish anon? Don't just say yeah.

>>28841718
No refunds!

>>28841467
Not really, it's just a what-ifs. Both Polka and Chigusa are a reincarnation that joined different company at the same time. Chigusa also knows some holos during her past life so it's not really an issue to join Holo.

>>28841718
>THEY FELL FOR THE ILUNA MEME
DUMP EET

>>28841048
>gringa accent
>sexy
You may as well save money and eat literal shit from your neighbor's toilets with your taste.

Here is the median for all male vtubers for the month up until Jul 20.

Here is my modest take:
>If with 10 streams their median is between Astel and Roberu they already *not failed*
>if with 10 streams their median is between Roberu and Yugo, they already *overperformed*

Now, if they breach the "Yugo Line", they already succeeded beyond any possible expectations.
On the other hand, if they fall below Holostar #3 (Rikka, right now), that's a failure right there

>>28841718
Investors saw their tweets and noped.

>>28841718
Heh

>>28841817
Yep, good criteria.

>>28841798
>it's not really an issue to join Holo.
I don't want any more ex-nijis in Hololive. One is already more than enough. Chigusa can go indie or join vshojoJP if she ever quits niji instead.

>>28841756
How am I supposed to know?

>>28841817
If they hit the Yugo line then they basically outperformed most NijiEN girls

>>28841910
Well you said "Yeah" implying you knew. Are you saying you were making unsubstantiated claims on the internet? How could you.

>>28841817
What was Anykara thinking with Yugo? Were they thinking?

>>28839987
>first time
Kill it in the crib or it will infect your algo,.
It IS possible to filter NijiEN from your recommended, but just remember that it will be a continuous task of "Don't Recommend" to any channel that so much as mentions NijiEN.
I watched a few JP only clips as well, which helped a lot in diverting algorithm attention since NijiEN don't have that many Japanese clips.
Good luck.

Magni is legitimately going to incline in a fucking 3am waiting room, what the fuck

>>28841895
I mean it's not an issue to join Holo instead of Niji before she becomes Chigusa.

>>28842160
After Calli dropped by and plenty of memes about his waiting room were posting on reddit it's becoming the new sensation

>>28841895
but i want the opportunity to post this again

>>28841579
If you fags actually watched chigusa, you would know she only gets below 1k when doing collabs. always has been the case

Pre-primetime /news/ update for 22-07-2022 (all times are in JST)
> Matsuri 3D Birthday Live tonight at 8pm (https://youtu.be/oFn0ZypcaM8). Guests are Miko, Suisei, Aki, Flare, Noel, Watame, Nene and Polka.
> Gwelu Os Gar debuting his 3D tonight at 9pm (https://youtu.be/UL3TxPIrtyc).
> Iofi birthday stream tonight at 10pm (https://twitter.com/airaniiofifteen/status/1550302376497623040). Teases an announcement + Merch.
> Talent lineup revealed for the Hololive Mahjong tournament to be held on July 29th at 7pm (https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1550314849586282496). Aki, Fubuki, Mio, Pekora, Flare, Lui, Koyori and Chloe will be participating. A-chan will be moderating. Pro Mahjong players Maki Asami and Mizuhara Akina will appear on the Hololive main channel as commentators. The game used will be "Sega NET Mahjong MJ".
> A-chan, Ollie and Bae will be holding watchalongs for the StarsEN debuts tomorrow on the Hololive EN main channel (https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1550329791311536131, https://youtu.be/Xg09Qsf5xsE).

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>>28842430
>Aki, Fubuki, Mio, Flare, Lui, Koyori
HAG PARADISE HOLY SHIT

>>28842325
You can still get cheeky if any ex or current nijis jump to Vshojo JP.

>>28841817
are you retarded? 10 streams is nothing, its buff time from debut. give at least 30 streams
>>28842114
Yugo gets 2.7k average and more SC than most.

>>28842359
> you would know she only gets below 1k when doing collabs
sure buddy

>>28842160
It'll peter out eventually in the early morning I think but it's quite the little sensation. I doubt any advertising agency could have done a viral campaign quite this effective, pretty funny

>>28842359
why would i watch a niji?

>>28842509
Mahjong is a /hag/ game after all.

>>28842515
ah yes, makes total sense when Coco and Rushia are in there...

>>28839987
I like her she's the only one I can really stand and also understand. But you are going to get sucked into the rest of nijiEN cesshole. Play the yt algorithm and maybe block all their channels if you're really feeling it

>>28842526
>are you retarded? 10 streams is nothing
I am not saying “after the first 10 streams” dummy, but “at any given moment in the future, with at least 10 streams in the period” to weed out short streaks

>>28842530
now look at most of her collabs. This is an exception

https://sulpx.itch.io/nuinui-quest
https://nuinui-quest.net/
Will this become the new holocure?

>>28842748
>a game featuring fucking flare
>popular
roru
rumao
I smiled at this. I will now go.

>>28839987
Petra is cute and fun. She doesnt like dirty jokes and shes very harmless overall, just a sweet girl. i think she and rosemi would be some that this thread would like

>>28842843
I don't like anyone that kneels to the CCP.

>>28839987
Just click not recommend this channel
Easy

How many 20k+ CCV streams has Obsydia had since their debuts?

You guys think this mag shit is gonna affect Magni? Imagine some insane reality where the others get the female audience and he's stuck with circa 500 or so retards /here/ spamming MAGGGING in his chat, like a holopro Pippa.

>>28840590
If only she was at hololive she can rival pekora

>>28843023
He's used to Twitch chat. It's not much different

>>28842843
That's what we thought about Artia too.

>>28842843
>this thread would like
Do they bring big numbers?

This has never once been an issue since holostars are a joke, but there's an actual chance one of them takes the cripple tally. Does that count as a "Hololive" win or "Holostars" in the tally?

>>28842843
I gave NijiEN a chance during Lazulight, to be something other than the EN version of NijiJP side ACCELERATION.
I knew where they were headed when I saw Obsydia debut within 3 months, so I got the fuck out, did my reps and became a JPchad.

Cute, Funny and harmless is something that is plentifully covered by Holos anon. Why would holofags watch Petra? What does she do to stand out from all the other cute, funny and harmless VTubers?

>>28843204
i'd say they get pretty good numbers, yeah.
https://vrabi.net/video/iNU86PwojvI

>>28843256
Holostars

>>28843256
Why the fuck would it count as a Hololive win?

>>28843256
Holostars. They're under HoloPro, but they're not part of the main Hololive brand. Also, Holostars on the tally would make a lot of people here seethe and I want to see that.

>>28843361
Because its never been clear whether Nijisanji/Hololive meant the company or not, idk. Not like Yumenographia or Stars were ever scoring wins.

>>28843311
>collab
Try again.

https://youtu.be/GGin-B-RpO0
holy shit, Matsuri x Luna might be back. looks like Matsuri really wants to restart her career. please no more career suicide moves...

>>28843395
People refers to the companies as Cover and Anycolor.

>>28843256
It would count as Hololive seeing a VTA win counted for Nijisanji.

>>28843491
>a VTA win counted for Nijisanji.
Wut? When did that happen?

>>28843433
As a non-JP guy this just smells sooo desperate, but I honestly hope it works out for her.

updated numbers for ILUNA 48 hours later
Scarle - 80k
Aster - 76.4k
Ren - 76.2k
Maria - 73k
Aia - 70.5k
Kyo - 70.2k
They will all reach 100k in less than a week and break some records in nijisanji

>>28842810
This cheeky dwarf....

>>28843604
Well, as someone mentioned she's been trying to get back in the box since fall last year, but the residual fallout from the Haachama issue and her RM nonsense did make it difficult for the to just buckle down on getting back in the box.
In this sense her rust shenanigans are RIGHT on time, and in hindsight she went into that server with a plan to grab Mindshare and it appears to have worked so far.

>>28843604
She tasted how bad the world outside Holo box is, now she's making all attempts to try and return to the box.

>>28843618
really bitch?

Today, a clip of King was recommended to me on yt and I decided to check it out since I've always been curious about how he sounds, definitely not what I expected at all ngl

It comes to a point where NijiEN doesn't need stupid memes to thrive. I guess focusing on streaming helps the brand after all and not viral marketing.

>>28843604
In my eye Fatsuri is now better than Aqua and Ayame or even Lamy since she is actually trying.

>28843999
utterly perplexing post

>>28843729
What Haachama issue? I only know she apologize but have no idea about the content

>>28844067
My God how do people still not know this? I'm genuinely wondering anon, when did you start watching hololive?

>>28843604
She clearly had a "come to Jesus" moment with both her spat with Haachama (which she would have had a point, had she not taken it "outside") and Rushia quick dismissal after fucking up one too many times.

She clearly realized the distance between "inside the box" and "out cold in the dead of winter" is slim thin

>>28843999
Oh c'mon, don't be so hard on the poor nijiENs. They had one meme. That "I'm Pomu" one, while a little forced, did catch on sorta.

>>28844067
1. How fucking new?
2. >>28808987

>>28844113
Aug 2020 until Early 2021 and hiatus since then due to not having interesting stuff. Yeah I didn't watch Coco graduating live.

Will Aia be the breakout star of her generation?

>>28844067
>>28844195
The tl;dr is
>Haachama, before her break, verbally agreed to appear on Matsuri bday but, after going on "indefinite hiatus", stop taking work calls and ghosts Matsuri
>Haachama appears (pre recorded) on Rushia bday
>Matsuri takes exception and bitches on her second account
Matsuri would have had a point had it not been for the fact she did it publicly.

>>28844067
Haachama invited Hoshikawa for one of her cooking segments which led to the latter abandoning her prior Apex collab with Matsuri. Of course Matsuri being a menhera sperg about it in an official Holo event and nijiniggers capitalized on it and it eventually blew up into a scandsl.

>>28844309
holos need to stop interacting with hoshikawa. all of the nijis are poison.

>>28844195
Much appreciated. I believe the Matsuri bully Rushia is just a rrat because I don't think anyone wants to find trouble with sankisei.

how far has magging reached outside of this site? I haven't been on for one day and it seems like Magni isn't last place anymore and as more people in his waiting room than the blue dude

>>28844376
It is because it's just an EOP mistranslation of Korekore's stream.

>>28844359
>>28844309
hoshikawa has always been a leech.
remember when she shilled for nijien newbies then promptly abandoned them in favor of hololive and their fans?

>>28844359
Shut up, Hoshikawa should slutify more holos like she did to festival and haato

>>28844307
Haachama is at fault here no matter how you look at it.

>>28844443
His chat room is just the place to be at the moment. It should normalize as the debuts get closer. But it got on Reddit about an hour ago

>>28844605
Yeah it was Haachama's fault but Matsuri shouldn't sperg on her public account either. Keep it behind the screen like PekoMiko and Hoshi no Katana.

Are we really surprised that haachama is the true menhera here? Have you SEEN what happened to her in 2021? Literally the biggest cry for help I've ever seen yet NO ONE was able to help her.
She's been more calm nowadays from what I can see and gets good numbers more often than not, it's the fact that she doesn't play trendy games (like rust for example) is what's really holding her back

I hope Finana inclines once Iluna debuts. The wave seems to be full of people that she would get along with.

>>28844686
That is the problem with having 2 accounts. Rushia also used to have 2 twitter accounts too and will go menhera mode on the second one from time to time.

Hoshi no Kanata has not much chemistry to begin with so unlikely got major incident behind it. My personal rrat is Miko raped Pekora hence Pekora never want to talk about Miko again.

>>28844443
Not my sc btw

>>28844698
Yea, once she was able to finally get the shit about Coco off her chest and she had a taste of college life, she mellowed out. Thank goodness too, there were very real concerns she would just up and quit Hololive given how things were looking.

>>28844605
I doubt anyone disputed that back then, it was just Matsuri dragging Rushia bday into it, which pissed every unrelated part off.

>>28844698
>Have you SEEN what happened to her in 2021?
No?

>>28843618
I think it's the first time in a long time EN vtubers haven't been culled pre-debut.
Obviously Tempus hasn't been either, but they don't grow fast enough to be culled.

>>28844987
YouTube must have changed things (again) after Noctyx debuted but before id3 did.

>>28844876
>the problem with having 2 accounts
kek, Matsuri actually has 4, 2 for "Matsuri" and 2 for her RM

>>28844698
>she doesn't play trendy games (like rust for example) is what's really holding her back
She's not a good gamer (other than some autism niches like Tetris and Getting Over it) and doesn't keep her workstation in working order most of the times (a habit from streaming from a laptop from most of her australia arc) meaning there are lots of games that are off limits for her

HoloEN is inclining

>>28844893
>Thank goodness too
I had a weight in my chest every single one of her streams ever since mid december 2020, waiting for the unavoidable news that she would be retiring.

Thank God for her mental improvement!

>>28844698
Eh I would say a bigger thing holding her back is (according to her at least) how time consuming her uni seems to be
I actually did watch the mouse interview where she asked her about her hobby and told her that she pretty much doesn't have time for anything else and is almost barely squeezing streaming in, she goes out at like 7:30 or 8 am or something like that and comes back between 4-6 pm
Imagine all that time... Just gone, she can't do any shitposts anymore, can do edits, can't do trailers or any of the stuff that gives haachama the name haachama, when was the last time she uploaded a short shitposting video anyway? Her shorts were literally only second to marine's

>>28845038
The more account someone have, the more menhera tha person is huh? Noel and Kiara are some degree of menhera too.

Jwu, it seems like they really pushed Tempus hard huh

I'm headed to bed, but can someone take a screenshot of Tempus subs about 14h before debut, so about 2h from now? That's the only close record we have of pre-debut Myth subs and I want a comparable.

>>28845148
doesn't finana have a sub account that's focused on porn or something like that?

>>28845152
As it should be with every new debuts

>>28844893
We shit on /jp/ and this board a lot but is not like they started shitposting about her graduating out of the blue of course, if there's smoke then there's probably a fire
I think she was the most speculated to graduate even

>>28844607
ty, I'm seeing it now and it explains thread quality

>>28844890
also kek. I genuinely cannot wait for his debut

>>28845038
You don't really NEED to be good at games like rust and holocure for example to squeeze a couple of streams with good numbers out of them though.
Its games like apex and that sort that attracts viewers if you're good

>>28845179
She's an attention seeker, not really a menhera.

>>28844972
I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not...

>>28842748
Oh. It's only up until the Casino stage with Miko :(
Pretty good waste of my 30 minutes though.
Pekora fight was easy because she kept dropping hearts
PekoMiko sub boss was a bitch though

>>28845300
You can go to stage 3 in itch's version.
Bosses in stage 3 are Aqua and Marine.

>>28845202
Yea.
Instead, we got
>Rushia blowing herself up in a pillar of fire
>Sana graduating herself after her back fucked her over

>>28845408
Ah fuck, thanks
I'll just do this tomorrow because I don't wanna fucking fight PekoMiko again

>>28845038
I know Hachama has talked about her struggles with content before about not being a gamer, but what's disappointing is that she doesn't even really try.
Like there's a bunch of a holos that I think aren't "gamers" but they can still participate in Hologame arcs. Hachama appears to have given up. Altho it was sad when she was the only one playing minecraft and no one bothered to join her.