/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>22494401

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

What constitutes a proper Holobox? Looking at AZKi's song collab with Holos during INNK vs her new identity as a Holo, there is a certain amount of boost. Why is this?

Let's have a nice and peaceful thread!

>>22494328
>Number-kun, ateshi no koto suki sugi~

>>22494539
Because she wasnt holo before but INNK, simple as

>>22494546
>>22494442
>>22494401
based tastes

>>22494591
Why is she wearing two panties? Is she retarted?

>>22494642
>Is Aqua retarded?

>>22494642
It's a swimsuit style, anon...
When was the last time you went outside?

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>37,680: Hal (Neo Porte)
>32,049: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>28,351: Pekora (Hololive)
>16,326: Vox (Nijisanji)
>16,141: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>14,828: Gura (Hololive)
>12,756: Shion (Hololive)
>12,706: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>12,668: Bae (Hololive)
>11,825: Hal (Neo Porte)
>11,410: Kronii (Hololive)
>11,261: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,948: Hal (Neo Porte)
>10,892: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>10,161: Shu (Nijisanji)
>10,087: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,020: Lize (Nijisanji)

APRIL 2022 GOLD
1) Okayu (Hololive) - 30,905 - Okakoro Third anniversary
2) Aqua (Hololive) - 86,420 - APEX Custom
3) Hal (Neo Porte) - 95,353 - VSaikyo landing spot lottery
4) Calli (Hololive) - 79,452 - 3D Birthday Concert
5) Aqua (Hololive) - 42,453 - Eating Sushi
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 53,422 - Totsu
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,076 - Horror game
8) Aqua (Hololive) - 62,820 - APEX custom
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,568 - Elden Ring
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,343 - Elden Ring
11) Aqua (Hololive) - 62,239 - APEX custom
12) Hal (Neo Porte) - 36,464 - APEX scrims
13) Korone (Hololive) - 39,582 - 3rd Anniversary Totsu
14) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,324 - APEX scrims
15) Hal (Neo Porte) - 37,680 - APEX scrims

> PER COMPANY
12x: Hololive
3x: Neo Porte

> PER STREAMER
5x: Aqua
3x: Hal
2x: Okayu, Pekora
1x: Calli, Subaru, Korone

>>22494642
>Is the perpetual udon-slurper, ultra-inkya autist retarded
You tell me

>>22494790
>Its only Hololive and Neo Porte

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes
>17,071: Vox (Nijisanji)
>14,861: Gura (Hololive)
>12,702: Baelz (Hololive)
>11,476: Kronii (Hololive)
>11,270: Fauna (Hololive)
>10,179: Shu (Nijisanji)
>9,409: Mumei (Hololive)
>9,174: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>7,940: Pomu (Nijisanji)
>7,822: Amelia (Hololive)
>7,599: Mori (Hololive)
>6,943: Luca (Nijisanji)
>6,899: Mumei (Hololive)
>5,474: Alban (Nijisanji)
>5,465: Vox (Nijisanji)

Gold winner gets the post-tally OP as tradition, migrate
>>22494407
>>22494407
>>22494407

>>22494845
>not sexy
No

>>22494842
EN Gold so far for April

1. Kronii (Hololive) - 25,476 (April Fools model swap featuring IRyS as Kronii)
2. Gura (Hololive) - 39,453 (April Fools 3DVR Variety Show)
3. Mori (Hololive) - 28,119 (Birthday Countdown and Call-ins)
4. Mori (Hololive) - 79,372 (Birthday 3D Live)
5. Gura (Hololive) - 40,764 (Unarchived Karaoke)
6. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 28,375 (Unarchived Karaoke)
7. Gura (Hololive) - 14,677 (Kirby and the Forgotten Land)
8. Amelia (Hololive) - 10,640 (Elden Ring)
9. Mumei (Hololive) - 15,767 (Food Review w/Baelz)
10. Gura (Hololive) - 19,169 (Overwatch w/Ina, IRyS, Mumei, Kronii, and Amelia)
11. Mumei (Hololive) - 13,067 (Vampire Survivors)
12. Gura (Hololive) - 17,560 (Vampire Survivors)
13. Mori (Hololive) - 18,784 (Tea Party zatsudan w/Gura and Kronii)
14. Vox (Nijisanji) - 59,507 (Unarchived Karaoke + 522k subscriber celebration)
15. Vox (Nijisanji) - 17,071 (Karaoke After Party)

Hololive - 12
Nijisanji - 3
Others - 0

Ah, peace

>>22494842
>>22494845
Kys

>>22494899

Is Holostats broken or did Suisei get over 20M views in one week?

>>22493154
the tourists have mostly left but she did manage to get some new fans out of it, she's no longer a 3view.

>>22495113
she's an artist channel now

>>22494790
This one

>>22494401

Rainhoe inclining.

Why is small number not big number?

>Good thread got destroyed because it was 10 seconds newer.
Sad.

>>22494723
>Kuzuha

They absolute failure of nijiniggers

*FINAL TW TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes
>1,030: Linglan Lily (Cloud Horizon)
>834: Annin Miru (indie)
>767: Mizuki (Meridian Project)
>736: Annin Miru (indie)
>644: No. Fifteen (Rescute)
>596: Ruroro (indie)
>549: Padko (Square Live)
>435: Lutralutra (Rescute)
>357: Margaret Winters (Cloud Horizon)
>314: HaiZ (Monstar)
>283: Tabasuko (Mirolive)
>216: Chilla Behemes (Storia)
>216: Obear (Rescute)

>>22495572
Many small number make big number except for EN where you always adjust for cull.

*FINAL ID TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes:
>5024: Kobo (HololoiveID)
>4677: Risu (HololoiveID)
>4388: Moona (HololoiveID)
>4152: Iofi (HololoiveID)
>4098: Moona (HololoiveID)
>2694: Zeta (HololoiveID)
>1852: Reine (HololoiveID)
>559: Etna (Nijisanji ID)
>480: Andi (MAHA5)
>384: Nekoyama (Yume Reality)
>207: Zen (MAHA5)
>206: Nia (MAHA5)

>>22494723
>APRIL 2022 GOLD
1) Okayu (Hololive) - 30,905 - Okakoro Third anniversary
2) Aqua (Hololive) - 86,420 - APEX Custom
3) Hal (Neo Porte) - 95,353 - VSaikyo landing spot lottery
4) Calli (Hololive) - 79,452 - 3D Birthday Concert
5) Aqua (Hololive) - 42,453 - Eating Sushi
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 53,422 - Totsu
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,076 - Horror game
8) Aqua (Hololive) - 62,820 - APEX custom
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,568 - Elden Ring
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,343 - Elden Ring
11) Aqua (Hololive) - 62,239 - APEX custom
12) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 36,512 - APEX scrims
13) Korone (Hololive) - 39,582 - 3rd Anniversary Totsu
14) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,324 - APEX scrims
15) Hal (Neo Porte) - 37,680 - APEX scrims

> PER COMPANY
12x: Hololive
2x: Neo Porte
1x: Nijisanji

> PER STREAMER
5x: Aqua
2x: Hal, Okayu, Pekora
1x: Kuzuha, Subaru, Korone

>I cant believe i made this entire tower without streaming it.
Yea me fucking to Sana.

With NijiEN males losing steam, will starsEN manage to steal fujos from nijiEN?

>>22495713
such wisdom

>>22495805
Finally, the real gold list.

>>22495834
Chink fujos? Hololive? Doubt it.

>>22495885
Chink fujos don't really care about nationalism
There are also TW, HK and SEA fujos

>>22495682
>jannies nuke the more active thread with emperor's well deserved op instead of some /a/ shit
well i guess you get the quality that you pay for

* NIJISANJI TALLY OF THE DAY *

>32.092: Kuzuha
>17.071: Vox Akuma (Nijisanji EN)
>16.381: Nijisanji
>12.846: Ibrahim
>10.884: Hayato Kagami
>10.179: Shu Yamino (Nijisanji EN)
>10.101: Lize Helesta
>9.174: Mysta Rias (Nijisanji EN)
>8.995: Fuwa Minato
>7.940: Pomu Rainpuff (Nijisanji EN)
>7.870: Tsukino Mito
>6.943: Luca Kaneshiro (Nijisanji EN)
>5.721: Kanae
>5.633: Alban Knox (Nijisanji EN)
>5.622: Vox Akuma (Nijisanji EN)

Why are there so many chick fujos anyways? Is it THAT lonely in China?

>>22495938
You might be right, but I think it's also unlikely that homosEN are going to do the same fujo pandering content that nijiEN do. I imagine cover management are quite strictly regulating them to being knock-off male idols like homosJP.

>>22494546
Ranni love

>>22495693
based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nji7MTsWe2Q

Sana redemption arc inc? Would be nice if Council could be whole.

>>22496094
Is Uproar doing fujo pandering?

Why are JP Nijis such a failure?
How many days has it been since they won gold?
Even Vox got a 59K stream?

Where is Kuzuha?
Where is Mito?
Where is Lize?
Where is Ange?
Where is Kanae?
Where is Chinman?
Where is Yashiro?
Where is Fuwa?

>>22496094
According to a baseless post made /here/ by an anon claiming into have been rejected in round 1 of interviews, that’s exactly what they’re doing.

>>22496198
>Where is Kuzuha?
>Where is Mito?
>Where is Lize?
>Where is Ange?
>Where is Kanae?
>Where is Chinman?
>Where is Yashiro?
>Where is Fuwa?
in my basement

>>22496198
It's been 3 days anon

>>22496239
Has it? >>22494790

>>22496196
Not even close, except Uyu throwing them some crumbs here and there with the way he talks, but it's subjective

>>22494723
Weakest Holo day in a long time, probably since Rushia's execution. Also Hal beating Kuzuha twice in the same week is funny.

>>22496207
The purity from idols cover is looking for might work among the asian fujo unicorns. Just look at them doing damage control and calling Mysta virgin

>>22494642
>does a bear shit in the woods

>Reply to falseflagger
Yeah we deserve the shittiest thread.

>>22494790
Has Niji not won one time? Vox would have got it if not for the bad luck of facing off against Aqua.

>>22496156
>>22496265

Uproar median peaks for April thus far:

>Fuma: 719
>Uyu: 419
>Rio: 391
>Gamma: 782

>>22495802
Did no one in Niji ID even stream except "Etna"?

>>22496322
>>22495805
36,512 > 36,464, end of story, i don't get why you keep trying to force this shit when there's plenty of evidence of a huge niji recline even when kuzuha did barely take a single gold

>>22494401
cute feet

>>22496344
It's not funny beating a failure like Kuzuha, anon.
More like sad.

>>22496207
The amount of info a Round 1 washout is gonna get won't be much, since they seem to be interviewing people that are way longshots, the sort of people that would break confidentiality at the drop of a hat.

>>22496438

>>22496473
Can you post a screenshot from any website you want with Kuzuha's and HAL's numbers that supports your argument?

>>22496438
7 streams. Only her broke required 200.

Can Sana reach 5k?

>>22496437
Tenma tier?

>>22496530
Niji ID and Niji KR are going the way of Niji JP, being the laughing stocks of the industry.

And Riku refuses to invest in Niji EN, the only branch that's inclining.
Sad.

>>22496438
>Riksa: 38
>Hyona: 149
>Mika: a song cover

>>22496530
why exist

>>22496555
Sana will mog most JP Nijis this month, anon.
Of course she can reach 5K.

>>22496533
Kuzuha's highest confirmed peak was higher than Hal's, stop crying like a pussy little faggot days later that it's unfair

>>22496555
Easily if Mori or Kiara fucks off, probably still even if not. It's a delayed reaction of people finding out that A) Sana is streaming and B) streaming something they have some interest in watching.

>>22496606
For the same reason that most Nijis exist.
To be laughed at by most of the industry.

>>22496520
Assuming the best case scenario, he might have been told what they want and why he isn’t that.

>>22496643
I asked for a screenshot, either you have it or not.
HAL won, end of discussion.

>>22496576
Shitposting aside, what exact "investment" does Niji EN need? Costumes are nice but at the end of the day they don't make much difference for numbers unless you have something that's actively repelling people (Chink Nene). 3D is a line, and they're still in their place for that.

>>22496533
>>22496576
>>22496627
>>22496663
>>22496705
Stop spamming on cooldown retard, the post times make it incredibly obvious

>>22496763
You seem stressed, anon.

>>22496763
Obnoxious

>>22496684
Maybe, but I'm guessing they will be the same as Holo EN. A few that are interesting in maybe singing, some others that are just straight up humor or gaming streamers. You're not gonna find 5 people who like jpop style singing and dancing unless you go to an anime con and grab 5 random faggots and force them to be vtubers, and it will pretty much guarantee none of the existing Hololive audience will watch them.

>>22493213
>>22493617
https://youtu.be/gcEP2O1IslE?t=12972

> I've played a lot of games on stream but...
> I dunno, since I started streaming... there's still a lot of places for me to improve, I'm still a streaming beginner - a streaming baby if you will - so I hope you guys can forgive me (for my mistakes).
> Compared to a lot of others, I absolutely suck at streaming.
> But FF14 you know... playing a game I like is when I feel the most alive.
> When streaming, I'm always having fun, and I've played a lot of games on stream. But... this is the first time I was so excited about a playing game! It was a lot of fun.

> "You've already become a pro, so it's not a good habit to use the excuse of being new." - comment

> I understand such comments, but... yeah since I'm in Hololive, I'm called a pro..
> hmmm am I a pro? Are there actual pro streamers? hmm... I wonder.
> I guess different people have different definitions.. but it's only been 4 months, but I guess it's ALREADY 4 months so I also want to do my best, and am trying my best.
> And among all the streams I've done, this FF14 stream was where I was having fun from the bottom of my heart. It was a lot of fun.
> Hmm, pro streamers huh.. there are people who do streaming for fun.. rather than calling everyone who streams a 'pro', hmm...
> I didn't get into to hololive to become a 'pro' streamer, but to have fun and stream what I enjoy doing.
> So calling me a 'pro' is a bit.. yeah. But yeah I'm sorry if I make you guys think "her pro awareness is low".
> Anyway, FF14 was fun! I want to talk to you guys about it and slowly progress while contining to enjoy it.

I think her excessive fangirling on FF14 rubbed some of her fans the wrong way, her word choices implying that that she wasn't really having that much fun in her streams until now (and just doing it as an obligation).
Lot of comments passive-aggressively telling her "you should become an FFXIV-only streamer since you're having sooo much fun with it)".
The "pro" thing is probably like this anon mentioned >>22471041 a difference in definitions.

Japanese being the vague-as-fuck implication-filled language that it is, there's some room to interpret that she doesn't consider her Hololive senpais as "pro streamers" (as per her definition), and I think the issue mostly came from her poor as fuck word choices and casual bluntness.

Oh, and she talked a bit about ShizuRin who has apparently been following her and replying to her a lot after hearing that she is a fellow FF14 fan. She wants to meet and play with ShizuRin in FF14 (despite all the hurdles).
That one's here : https://youtu.be/gcEP2O1IslE?t=11591

>>22496705
Here, now let me guess you're going to whine like a little bitch about how it isn't fair because Hal isn't on Vrabi while using weasel word shit like Hal "probably" would've won if he was?

>>22496388
> he believed the fake list

>>22496967
I want a screenshot from any website that includes both Kuzuha and HAL, retard.

It can be Vrabi, Vstats or whatever you want but it has to include BOTH so we can compare.

Off yourself.

>>22496925
The nips are complete and utter psychopaths to be able to get an enjo out of something as benign as this

>>22496925
>she talked a bit about ShizuRin who has apparently been following her and replying to her a lot after hearing that she is a fellow FF14 fan
kek, wanting to emulate the girl that INCINERATED her nascent career and alienated a HUGE funnel of EOPs sent her way by Pewdiepie that could have seeded Nijisanji with that audience way before Hololive, by playing that exact game (or another version of)...

Not a smart decision, to say the least. What's next, pull a Hana Macchia and refuse 3D and tell her audience "yeah, vtubers are just egirls"?

>>22496868
none of the existing Hololive audience are going to watch them in anycase. Ok maybe a few hundred will, but most will be clipniggers and poorfags who show 'moral support' but not the actual fortitude to catch fucking streams or vods or wallets. Instead those 'supporters' will cause discord and drama by pushing for male collabs in Hololive despite the EN fanbase' obvious reluctance.

>>22496925
>I'm not very good at this, I hope you can forgive my mistakes
>no I don't think we will dot jpg

>>22496967
Not worth wasting your time, there is no argument that will convince that anon. Anyone can post whatever they want so just post your post, he posts his post and people move along with it.

One thing is for sure: that anon single handedly killed the horse race, nobody wants to touch it for the rest of the month.

>>22496368
I'm really interested in StarsEN. Everyone is saying NijiEN got the male market in a stronghold but HoloBox is a thing, Vox has mostly the CN market and Mysta is slowly breaking apart from the group and getting closer to Mika. Beyond those two I don't see NijiEN males suposed stronghold.

>>22496925
>"you should become an FFXIV-only streamer since you're having sooo much fun with it)"
Well if she really enjoys the game that much then she should do it. Not worthing streaming other things for obligation. But if she reach Shizurin FF14 levels of spam I fear her channel will stagnate forever

>>22497099
I'm sick to fucking death of having this argument with you but I'm not going to let you gaslight the lurkers and newfags into changing the rightful outcome. The rule has always been that the highest available tally on *any* site no matter who is on there decides a tiebreaker situation and Kuzuha himself lost a gold to Pekora from a Holostats peak. Now that's the last (You) you're getting out of me, accept your loss and fuck off, don't bother replying to this post.

>>22497373
>HoloBox is a thing,
Holobox never worked for stars. Why you think it will suddenly change?

>>22496925
>I know you didn't mean it this way but I'm going to pretend your comment was something bad because I am a schizo.
Some nips need serious help.

>>22495802
does the official channel doesn't count?

>>22497451
Damn, I can make my own site that’s wildly inaccurate and cherry pick the results I want? Brb, learning web design.

>>22497373
>HoloBox is a thing
It is a thing but not *this* thing.

Despite the meme people don't watch Hololive because it's Hololive, they watch Hololive because they like cute girls doing cute things and each of those girls, yes, even Sana, find an audience that think they're cute

>>22497549
Premieres don't count.

>>22497549
premieres don't

>>22497549
Premiere anon

>>22497560
Nobody ever claimed vrabi is inaccurate. Either way, you can continue believing what you want, the only thing that will be harder is to force other people to believe in it as well.

>>22497132
>>22497311
I honestly think these guys are a minority, since most of her comments are supportive and positive, and none of them are making the situation worse by commenting "ignore the antis, the stream was fun!" (happens when the flame is too much or when it's nijifans doing the flaming - see : Chigusa VTL stream).

This situation and the initial comment culture o Laplus' streams makes me think that HoloX brought in a pretty significant NND/Nijisanji audience to the Hololive box, and those guys brought their somewhat schizo habits (care for seniority, enjou for minor messups) with them.

Holofans tend to stick together and forgive most honest mistakes from the talents.
Hell, her senpais have overslept on stream for like 4+ hours and had to be saved from enjou by the FBKing's masterful streaming.
No one flamed them for being "unprofessional" then since everyone was having fun.

I think she will be fine moving forward, but if her FF14 streams start to overtake her regular streams, she might lose some of her fans.

>>22497692
>if her FF14 streams start to overtake her regular streams, she might lose some of her fans.
See also: Matsuri and APEX

>>22497664
I’m not even the anon you were talking to. I just think it’s stupid to take results from two separate sources and claim they have the same weight.

>>22497099
Read this >>22313178
And then see pic related.
And then shut the fuck up.

>a lot of people who don't watch Iroha shitting on her
>JP "fans" go full schizo and take all her comments in the worst possible light
>people who actually watch Iroha are happy with what she's doing and encourage her to do whatever streams she enjoys
Oh wow I'm beyond shocked

>>22497692
Yeah I've noticed that too. The more 'isolated' for lack of a better word members like laplus and iroha still don't have a proper holo assimilated chat and viewership culture compared to members like koyori and lui.

>>22497749
That's how it works in this thread from the start anon. In the beggining of the current "final tally" there was not even an unified site after VNUMA died, the anon doing the tally used live-ranking and fixed any missing result with Mado results for Nijisanji and Holostats for Hololive.
Then came vrabi and it both added a new datapoint and added some companies (like VSPO and Animare), then came vstats and added some and Neo Porte as well.

These sites may miss peaks but they don't invent peaks so it is a safe bet that the highest peak among all sites is the peak for that stream. It is not even a controversial take, it is how it is used from the start.

DAMN, Pekora really enjoys this game and so does her audience. Six hours later, it's 3AM in Japan and the audience is till at a 18k+

>>22497476
Stars failed because nips already chose a side, which is nijiJP, just like how Hololive girls dominate the market and people don't watch new female niji waves
StarsEN COULD POTENTIALLY get the western unicorn market, since most of the fujos probably only heard of hololive. I'm not saying that it will 100% be a success, but the chances for them to be successful are higher than StarsJP

>>22497899
I think it's the same newfag shit that happens in all communities.
Like Gura's newfag audience spamming FBK/Korone etc. about her beating them to 1M.
This might be why some of Gozaru's fans who came from the hololive culture wants her to have more 1-on-1 collabs with the holos, so that the newfags get accustomed to how holo runs the ship.
Right now she's mostly off on her own without much interaction with hololive outside of group collabs, so a lot of her crossover audience still has old habits.

>>22498034
Below 18k now, but still impressive viewer retention.

>>22496925
>This comment
kek

>>22498064
Nothing you said right now have anything to do with holobox.

>>22497749
>two separate sources
It's one single source anon, the YT API.
Unless either vrabi/vstats admin fucks a YT engineer, they're not getting those numbers other than from the YT API anon.

>>22497749
It all comes from the same source: Youtube, it just takes results at different intervals. And that doesn't mean the site with the shorter intervals will always have the higher peak, one of Miru's streams on today's TW tally had a higher peak on fucking Playboard (samples every 10 minutes) than Vstats (every 1-2 minutes)

It is clear that the male side of NijiEN has a large and growing viewership, and with popularity comes the opportunity for sponsorships. With that being said, I have an honest question: what sponsorships could male NijiEN livers acquire, considering they are most popular for their raunchy homoerotic content? I am not familiar with the possible products and services which can be advertised by streamers who do these types of content.

>>22498280
tenga

>>22498193
They create their own holobox. Cover is good at pushing for all the talents into the box. You are clearly thinking of the box that only watches holo girls, which is dumb

>>22497692
I could've sworn a long time back people noticed there being overlap with Niji fans and Laplus in particular. I don't know if that was just a shitpost or what but honestly I've always had this impression that their fans feel a -bit- separate from the typical holobox you see. Like a new set of eyes, but those eyes typically don't go towards Holo members and more so stay within the HoloX zone, hence why they get obliterated when they overlap eachother

>>22498280
I doubt they will get meaningful sponsorships when half their content is just celebrations

>>22497912
>>22498228
>>22498256
That makes sense, sorry for sperging.

>>22498314
Would Anykara agree to have a serious sponsorship deal with Tenga, though?

>>22498280
>what sponsorships could male NijiEN livers acquire, considering they are most popular for their raunchy homoerotic content
Alcohol, tobacco (or substitutes like vapes), gambling and designer clothes. None of these industries shy away from degeneracy and both Japan and China are very strong markets for all of those

>>22498280
You just have to find a product that would appeal to chinese fujos, a product that Anykara wont mind having attached to their streamers... so no idea

>>22498175
Holy fuck that entire comment chain is gold lmao

> Are you trying to tarnish the path that Peko-chan has laid down for you? I wish you would be more aware of your status as a hololive member. You shouldn't go against the "holo-ness" that Peko-chan has laid out in so many ways.
> The fuck is that dirty path? is there something like that? (puke)
> There's no path like that peko
> What even is "holo-ness"?
> You guys are hilarious
> The evil nousagis have sprung up again (lol)
> (later comment are nijinigs seething)

>>22498350
>They create their own holobox
Then it wouldn't be called holobox. Also easier said than done. Creating things from scratch requires time and there is big unknown how big such box would be.

>>22496388
Kuzuha won but anons here dont accept it

>>22498409
Yeah during their debuts there were many anons who noticed the difference in chat culture.
Laplus has been collabing a lot with holomem, both one on one and in groups, and this has mostly wrangled her audience into becoming a lite version of nousagis.
"stinky orca" also filtered a bunch of her tourist fanbase and solidified into a decent core audience.
Lui and Koyo have also had multiple one-on-one holo collabs and plenty of group ones.
Gozaru is notably the only one who hasn't had many one-on-ones. Which is probably why her audience is still somewhat schizo.

>>22498619
The Peko-path should be forced on all holos for the sake of crushing the horse race once and for all.

>>22498175
>まひまひしか勝たん
It's a nijifag, don't take their trolling seriously

>>22498746
>Then it wouldn't be called holobox
It might surprise you, but Stars' real name is HOLOstars

>>22498773
>anons here
Most likely than not one (1) anon. Either way, it sucks the fun out of the whole thing to give it more importance than it has so I think people will resume paying attention to the monthly tally next month

>>22498907
They continue being their own thing, and "holobox" in this thread only refers to Hololive, not Holostars or MyHoloTV

>>22498619
That has to be a false flag. Not even nousagis think pekora laid out some kind of holo-ness whatever. They just want their own nousagi culture with pekora.

>>22498064
You can't compare Ranunculus with homostars. Ranunculus or even Lain last year have a median of over 1k.

>>22498280
They just got a sponsorship in Japan yesterday, retard.

>>22499268
Those are still midget numbers

>>22499312
>nijiEN
>get viewers and money from China and SEA
>get a regional Japanese sponsorship
Genius. Good for Ike and Shu I guess?

>>22499312
I missed this, what was it for?

>>22499312
You meant a collab, unless we are thinking about different things. You are talking about the NijiCafe collab, yes?

>>22499194
it's pretty obviously sarcasm dude
doubly hilarious is the cluelessly obvious nijiniggers seething at the very end

> What are you talking about?
> why are you breaking the rule about not bringing up other streamers' names unless the streamer brings it up themselves?
> cold chicken
> are you implying that all the other senpais have not laid down the path?
> It's smart how this is lowering both Kazama and Pekora's reputation (the rare double falseflag - aka pretzel)

>>22499445
They got money from sponsorship but it doesn't count I guess
>>22499382
I didn't say they are huge, I said they are on the number side of being successful streamers.

>>22498773
See >>22496967
>>22497451
>>22497912
>>22498228
>>22498256

>>22498598
Female clothing, shoes, handbags, makeup?

So whens vox reinvesting some of that chink dosh back into his fanbase? Do a few commissions and stuff

>>22498849
Yea. Assimilation of your new audience into the wider box should be one of the goals, as it helps you keep your floor alive if you need to take an extended break AND helps build up the box as a whole. Failing to do so to an extraordinary degree can result in a very....schizo fanbase.
IRyStoracts come to mind, though its mitigated a good amount now thanks to her gelling well with Bae and the rest of Council, even if her split here can get a bit nutso.

>>22499513
Unless I'm wrong, he was probably talking about NijiCafe collab
https://twitter.com/SP_collabo/status/1514891732454113283
Basically a cafe chain selling foods / drinks and various goods with Niji (in this case, Luxiem) theme

>>22499680
Well, they have access to their metrics, and they probably have a sizable enough JP audience that they determined this was worthwhile.

>>22499544
Maybe it just doesn't come across that way in the translation

>>22499714
That's true

>>22499755
The perils of cross-language subtleties being lost....
>Warning, side effects may include having another nuke dropped on you among other things

You know, I’m gonna be honest
The fact that Sana can do a guerilla MC in the middle of 2 ENs streaming, in fucking EU times no less which are the worst, and manage to pull off almost 5k is ridiculous given how gone she’s been from streaming. There’s been a lot of praise for the other council and for good reason, but Sana holding on to a semi-decent fandom is really impressive. It just shows how strong the box can be

>Nijisanji EN has started getting the classic Nijisanji birthday merch (first time for a foreign branch)
>Luxiem got their first sponsorship

Things are going well for Nijisanji EN
I wouldn't say the same for Nijisanji JP sadly, a lot of recline in their numbers
They have been bleeding viewers for more than a year now

>>22499755
ahh yeah that might be the case.
It's difficult to translate the subtleties of memery and shitposting across languages nowadays. (RIP Coco)

I'm guessing 90% of the comments /here/ would probably be taken at face value if they got translated.

>>22499900
People are just glad to have her around at all lol. She's a really nice girl and tries to be a joyful streamer. I'll be honest, if sana gets healthy and gets more streaming experience so she can comfortably bring out her qualities, I can see her inclining past bae. She's funnier and a lot more unhinged and better at gaming. It's still a big if though.

>>22499900
How the fuck do eufags abandon kiara to her dogshit numbers but Sana streaming kirby? Sure let's give her 4k

>>22499900
It helps that this time her reasoning was better than -Oops dog died gone for a month- (real reasoning for the long time gone more likely being quarantine measures since AUS were being super anal about that sort of thing) and the fact that Council and Myth have all been on board with on-boarding Sana again. Kind of hard for all but the most schizo of people to hold on to any resentment when they see everyone willing to pull Sana back up and her, y'know, actually streaming again (even if it WAS multiple streams of Kirby).

>>22499714
Well rather than them knowing they have a sizeable JP audience, it's probably more of trying to grab those JP audience slowly. That collab cafe is being held at the same time with this one
https://twitter.com/SP_collabo/status/1514891754444845062
Basically the perfect time to also shill your EN branch.

>>22500007
Oh yeah for sure, plenty of times the nips have taken some of our shitposts seriously.

>>22500206
Kiara's chicken voice is actually much worse than Sana's
also Sana is not as annoying as Kiara

>>22500274
Right, there's that too, but it wouldn't make any sense to include them if they didn't have at least SOME Japanese fanbase to grab.

>>22500206
I’m sure there’s some ccvid issues but even disregarding that, I feel bad for her sometimes. I honestly used to just put her on the TV in the afternoons to kill time but she’s so passionate about everything, even with the annoying chicken voice I can’t help but like her. She’s absolutely amazing, but man she just cannot get a hand in the money jar like Gura/Ina/Mumei etc. I really do wish people will give her a shot again

>>22500344
Yeah Ike and shu do at least.

>>22500206
Yeah but that falls on Kiara for stubbornly clinging onto the chimkin voice even knowing that it filters people very hard.

>>22500206
kiaras voice filters me, same with moris speaking style

>>22500206
I would rather watch Sana any day than listen to Kiara for even 30 seconds. Annoying ass bird

>>22500274
is Ars really this IMAGINE tier? All these proportions seem off save for Ex Albio

>>22500411
I don't particularly dislike her and she does have passion but her voice absolutely filters me. If she dropped the annoying voice I'd actually give her a genuine shot.

>>22500206
Kiara dogshit numbers are pretty much the same as that Sana stream.

>>22500638
If anything, her in that picture actually has better proportions because normally her head looks fucking huge.

>>22500748
anon.......

>>22496925
Why did they hire FF autistsl anyway? Why not a Minecraft build autist like sultan since the game has deep history in Hololive. Or heck I'll take another Apexnigger

>>22500638
147cm

>>22500638
She's only tall when she's wearing a giant ass hat

>>22500785
Kek wrong picture. Sorry, I just woke from my nap.

>>22500411
Her voice filters me.. I want to give her a shot, but I just can't with the chicken voice. its too grating and sometimes just too loud/annoying. I don't know if its a culture gap or something either. Supposedly her actual voice is much better, so I get she uses chicken as acting armor against those who criticize her, but it also locks away her potential draw too.

>>22500638
Suo Sango is only 1cm taller than Ars (148cm) so the scaling is fucked up for sure

>>22500638
Sultan and Ebio are supposed to be 180 cm, while big face and pink selejo are around 147 cm so it looks pretty consistent to me? People don't really notice it but Ars actually has a pretty seggs design. People are just too distracted by her big head to notice those below it.

>>22500802
To be fair, Iroha WAS panned to be that MC autist. She said right on debut that she was into MC and specialized in command blocks. She was the first of them to hop on MC and build things. But two things happened:
1. MC died out at the time
2. HoloX for whatever reason only put 1 foot into the door

They had a grand opening for them and everything, and all that was accomplished was members playing MC hardcore (Koyori) or learning the game fresh (Lui and Laplus) so it was just really rough from the get-go. Also the fact that the very thing Iroha specializes in can’t even be done on the server kind of killed a lot of opportunities for her. She’ll likely be used for events though

>>22501057
If she could just mimic some popular mods using command blocks it could be great content. You can do literally anything with commands blocks now its insane

>>22500206
I love Kiara but her voice. Her RM voice is much better she can gradually drop the chicken voice and start using her natural one.

>>22501042
If ars ever wins a gold I'll be hornyposting her a whole damn lot.

>>22501042
Oh right people just straight up thought she was a Loli because her big face took all the attention away from her actual body.

>>22501057
We really need Minecraft resurgence arc... HoloX never experienced Minecraft arc buff tbf

>>22500411
I watch pretty much every Holotalk since that's good content, but I have to pause a few times due to her voice scratching some primal itch in my head...
Dunno what it is about that pitch and tone, makes me want to bash her head in...

>>22501336
she could just change it like suisei, say she needs to drop it to help her throat. No one will complain.

I just realized that Chloe made an Elden Ring streamframe for 2am EST. Wanna guess what Iroha’s ffx frame was set for, before that stream came up? 1am EST
Does HoloX just have a thing for personally fucking themselves over or what

>>22501449
Hey look at that! there's also Lui at 1:30
https://youtu.be/Nre_9mnQoxo

>>22501449
>Does HoloX just have a thing for personally fucking themselves over or what

Pretty much. Koyori will still be streaming when Iroha starts and Lui will start hers 30 mins after Iroha. They have a ''all out war'' with with themselves

>>22501439
I understand. When I first started listening to her I felt similar, like I had to turn my volume down and not pay much mind because she would scream and have that grating voice people know. But over time I got used to it and man, the amount of effort she puts into connecting with her fans is something else. Obviously I favor a lot of other ENs over her but she’s one of the only who sits there and talks deeply with her fans. It’s endearing so I definitely started respecting her more

What in gods name is a holox? Is that some type of fish?

>>22501449
>>22501569
>>22501643
kek, and i thought that gen 3 overlap after rushia is gone was bad...

>>22501057
Iroha dont even initiate any mc collab with her genmates

>>22501452
I hope she does. There's amost no reason to keep it up.

>>22501761
I mean yea but contextually, Iroha was kind of in a league of her own at the time. Like you see a lot of talks here about “Iroha falling off a cliff” and it’s true, but there’s a reason for that. She was like the only one of the bunch who was regularly hitting 20k playing MC, had a ton of great numbers and was the clear #2 of the gen. I think it was less collabing with her genmates and more being distant from Holo as a whole. It genuinely feels like her only 2 friends in Holo are Mori and FBK. Don’t get me wrong, obviously she’s friendly with everyone and probably has more friends, it just felt like she never got over the collab shyness so she got left behind really hard

>>22501057
Eh I'd say even as a Minecraft autist she didn't really live up to the early expectation. She advertised herself as that Minecraft autist who's good with command blocks and redstone circuits during her debut, but from all her 12 Minecraft stream she actually touched redstone circuit only ONCE, and that's the latest one in February, nearly 3 months after her debut. One Minecraft frame was dedicated for the tour and the other 10 frames were either hitting blocks with pickaxe or constructing some sort of structure.

>>22494401

*FINAL TWITCH TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*


- 15 April Peak Name Group
>> 16,313 Veibae (EN VShojo)
>> 12,917 Jururu (KR Isegye Idol)
>> 12,096 Nyanners (EN VShojo)
> 9,213 ( 6,416 non-raid) Zentreya (EN VShojo)
> 8,959 Shoto (EN Indy)
> 8,104 Ironmouse (EN VShojo)
> 7,112 CodeMiko (EN Indy)
> 7,011 Sakura Miko (JP Hololive)
> 6,941 Chihiro (JP Nijisanji)
> 6,704 ZilverK (SP LA RATIZA)
> 6,372 ( 2,722 non-raid) Pikamee (JP VOMS)
> 5,987 ( 2,223 non-raid) SquChan (EN Indy)
> 5,824 zrush (CN Indy)
> 5,579 Mysta Rias (EN Nijisanji)
> 5,517 111roentgenium (KR Parable)
> 5,188 AdmiralBahroo (EN Indy)
> 4,246 ( 1,448 non-raid) Chunyang (KR Parable)
> 3,464 Saruei (EN Indy)
> 2,973 Nachoneko (JP Indy)
> 2,768 KSPKSP (CN Indy)
> 2,523 MurderCrumpet (EN Indy)
> 2,457 Snow Hite (KR Indy)
> 2,357 Shibuya Hal (JP Neo-Porte)
> 2,309 OkCode (EN Indy)
> 2,285 Rainhoe (EN Indy)
> 2,188 Kenji (EN Indy)
> 2,018 Chibidoki (EN Indy)
> 1,842 girldm (EN Indy)
> 1,821 KendoMurft (EN Indy)
> 1,715 Karubi Akami (JP Indy)
> 1,503 ( 749 non-raid) Onyu (KR Indy)
> 1,456 Jack (KR Indy)
> 1,355 sea_vtuber (KR Indy)
> 1,276 RakkunVT (SP OWOZU)
> 1,230 Natsumiii (EN Indy)
> 1,178 HalO_Sweety (EN Indy)
> 1,160 im_duck_o3o (KR Indy)

Same as yesterday - since it was the same day in NA - VShojo and friends dominate while Isegye only had 1 person streaming.
More and more JPs are streaming on Twitch btw.

>>22500206
Her forced chicken voice is as much of a filter as IRyS's avatar is. The only difference is that I can put a window on top of IRyS's avatar and still enjoy her streams while I miss most of the point of watching a Kiara stream if I mute it.

>>22501672
I can handle her in small doses (clips) but not in full streams.
I can respect anyone who made it through that voice filter though. KFP are a different breed.

Remember when it was just Pekora and Subaru at these hours?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-B6K22S-KU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MLoc8_kLvc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6qfSW2Y48w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akgwLjoXDHM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uRXqlypiFA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nre_9mnQoxo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytV2LYvqSec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHVx9PXjkEo

So, the thread is slow enough, there is no better time to drop this.
It is already the halfway point of the month, time for an update on the
* ranking of median of peak CCV *

"Ayame line" is at 3 streams, meaning only channels with 3 or more streams qualify for this ranking at this point.
Source for the data is an aggregation of
>holostats
>mado
>vrabi
>vstats
and the period, April 1 to April 15 (JST)

Here for the Top 50, with ten comments
1) Aqua leads the Top 50 with an impressive 62k+ median with 5 streams in the month.
2) Kuzuha follows with 30k+ in 17 streams, an impressive mark with both at the top benefiting from the VSakyou audience that funnels to the top
3) Pekora, Toya, Subaru and Miko make for the rest of the 20k+ troupe, with Suisei and Gura not trailing it by much
4) Top 50 has 29 Holos (9 EN, 1 ID), 17 Nijis (3 EN), Gatchman, Shigure Ui, Hal and Tamaki
5) Top 50 has 36 girls, 13 boys and Nijisanji main channel
6) Shibuya HAL inclining to a 10k+ median, thanks to VSakyou
7) Kronii likewise, inclining to a 10k+ median so far, but with only 6 streams it is too early to tell if it will lst
8) Both Kanae and Fuwa continue straying further and further away from 10k, with both very close to 7k
9) Vox hanging tight to his 10k+ median while Mysta reclined just outside of that threshold

and the punchline
10) Kobo is still hanging on into the Top 50, with a 6.6k median with 13 streams 20 days after her debut.
Her lowest attended stream so far was a 4.4k stream meaning that even if she gets 2 views in her next 12 streams, her median would remain at 4.4k.

>>22503014
Jesas. Actually kinda gross.

>>22503014
2view schizo is seething that Hololive has so much good content to watch on its own right now

>>22503167
>62k

>>22503014
HoloX, you stupid girls need to do a better job at coordinating.

>>22496207
>>22496094
You can check the post Cover made for hiring a director for the EN males.
https://hrmos.co/pages/cover-corp/jobs/0000029
>女性向けコンテンツ関連の就業経験、もしくは知見がある方
They want someone with experience in "content aimed at women" so you know that's what they want the EN males to be.

>>22503014
the only streams that will do well here are Noel ER (because it stars before overlap hell) and Subaru FF
everyone else is dead

>>22503167
>Gen 2 is 30% of the top 10
Best gen

>>22503167
Mumei is the 2nd biggest EN vtuber? Oh no no no council schizos, nijisisters... we... we lost

>>22503167
Here are all the channels with a 1k+ median and ten more comments

1) All NijiEN channels made the cut, with Reimu being the trailing one with a 1098 median
2) All Hololive girls made the cut, with Anya being the trailing one with a 1439 median
3) Roberu and Astel made the cut, with the former having a 1458 median and the later, an impressive 2153 median (outranking Pomu, Beni, Chaika, Ollie and Oliver Evans)
4) 17 indies, 12 VSPO, 6 774 Inc, 6 Neo Porte, 4 .LIVE and 3 Brave Group made the cut
5) One of each of these made the cut: CloudHorizon, GuildCQ, Live Union, NoriPro, Propro Production, RK Music, Sleep Monster, VOMS, WACTOR, wethernews
6) 1k median guarantees a presence in the Top 200
7) 3k median guarantees a presene in the Top 100
8) Gorilla Virtual made the cut, likely inclining due to VSakyou
9) Sana stubbornly and tauntingly *still* outranks Selen

and the punchline
10) Virtual Obaachan ranked high enough outrank Moona, Kiara, Fubuki, Kson, all of VSPO and all of the NijiEN girls.

No, really, Virtual Obaachan. She is *this* strong, no wonder she was one of the inspirations for Subaru to become a vtuber

>>22503167
>All of Sanbaka above 10k
K-KNEEL?

>>22503957
>10) Virtual Obaachan ranked high enough outrank Moona, Kiara, Fubuki, Kson, all of VSPO and all of the NijiEN girls.

grandma... i kneel

>>22503957
>Nijikiller's median and mean peak more than double that of King
O-Onyan! I kneel!

>>22503957
I guess this should erase any doubt that VSPO is the 3rd most popular JP company right now. I do wonder how they can properly expand their reach though since their niche is a bit too focused. Kobo being the new ID queen as expected. Still need to wait awhile before I call this permanent though. If she can maintain a 5k CCV after 3 months then that would seal it for me. Also
>Selen still can't beat Sana
Top fucking Kek.

>>22504301
Holy shit I'm wasted

In other news
>Finana 1.5k with her 300k + totsumachi stream
Did she already call the guys yet? That seems way too low for a milestone celebration + totsumachi buff.

No kanata stream right? Surely King will get gold this time!

>>22504750
>Startend streams today
Sorry King, Gold is for grown-ups

>>22503957
I'm going to keep bugging you every time you forget to add Komame you know
https://www.vstats.jp/channels/1:UCBLqkkSpOi6a95Lf4BsTh7Q/overall

>>22504750
Nodoka too smug

>>22504750
>3 days of spoonfeed
>Still slip
King...

>>22504513
Totsu isn't a buff for Niji EN when every stream is already one

>>22503957
And here is the whole shebang.

1) Hajime is still the lowest ranked NijiJP
2) NijiKR and NijiID appears to have inclined, with only three of them remaining 2 digits
3) All of Holostars appear to have inclined from Holofes and the new debuts, except Izuru (whose low median is due to aborted attempts to play Valo and a sucessful one)
4) Except for Izuru (whose reason is the one above), UPROAR's newly debuted Uyu and Rio are trailing the whole branch
5) Ren Kisaragi and Toto Kogara are the only VSPO under 1k median
6) Minase and Yozuna Niu are the only Neo Porte under 1k median
7) Hananoki Maru, from Vsen, is hanging on to the boost she got from Suisei and has a 458 median, outranking a former habitual Hololive collab partner, Nekomiya Hinata
8) Only 27 of the tracked streamers are on two digits
9) Other than Tamaki, no other NoriPro streamer is above 1k

and the punchline
10) Usami Yuno, from Re:Act, is the lowest ranked streamer tracked in this list.
The model is cute, the content leans a little to heavy on ASMR but, other than that, doesn't seem to have anything specially bad.

Why is the number this low, to a point she has VODs on the 3 digits since 2018? She clearly has the work ethics, can this thread fix her channel with 5 easy tips to incline her numbers?

>>22505843
>ASMR
imma check her out

>>22505601
>She's up to 1.6k now
I mean I know the constant collabs would have an effect on totsumachi buffs but this feels like there isn't even 1% of a buff here. Just referring to chart anons data >>22505601 she isn't even out of her normal median range yet

>>22504821
Sorry mate, she'll be there next time I post. It is not that I forgot to include, but that I forgot to remove from the "not vtuber" list (along with Uruca and some other channels I couldn't figure out if vtuber or not)

For the record her median is 2017 right now.

Can Ina incline this to her usual 11k?

Question to chart anon since I'm not familiar with Nijisanji's group structure. Who would be the highest ranked chuuba for Nijisanji based on their respective debut years. Basically, the highest ranked Niji who debuted in 2019, 2020, etc. I kind of want to know if there's any hint of truth to the rrat that they're failing to create stars over there. If you could also do one for Hololive I'd appreciate it too (this is just me being a lazy cunt so apologies).

>>22503167
>koyori
>30 streams

>>22506436
Isn't it just Kuzuha?

>>22504309
>I guess this should erase any doubt that VSPO is the 3rd most popular JP company right now
It wouldn't even be a contest, if CCV was the only measure of popularity

Here is the same chart, with Cover, Anycolor and indies removed. The only streamers outranking VSPO right now are the absolute monsters of their respective companies
>Hal and Reid
>Tamaki
>Met
>HACHI
>Patra

Other than that they cluster very high in this segment of "minor corporates"

>>22503167
>62k
whats the monthly record? and the non-ayame record?

>>22506436
Holo 2018 : Miko
2019 : Usada Pekora
2020 : Gawr Gura
2021 : Laplus Darkness

>>22505843
>NijiKR and NijiID appears to have inclined
I though they merged into the main branch?

I checked out the highest NijiKRs on the list, Nari Yang and Ha Yun. They just seem to speak japanese most of the time instead of Korean. Is this the same for the rest of NijiKR?

>>22506436
2018: Kuzuha
2019: Ange Katrina
2020: Ibrahim
2021: Vox Akuma
2022: Alban Knox

>>22506436
2018 Kuzuha
2019 Ange
2020 Ibrahim
2021 Leos
2022 Nei

>>22506664
Going by this March and April numbers, 2019 one should be Aqua.
Also the 2018 one is Suityan

>>22506661
This is the record, as long as it holds

>>22506757
>2021 Leos
Wait, I thought Lauren is the strongest Edengumi?
Also Leos' numbers right now is sub-5k

>>22506770
Aqua debuted in 2018...

>>22506826
Anon you might want to sit down for this one, prepare your nipples...

>>22506770
Miko and Suisei are two sides of the same coin. They are interchangeable for that matter

>>22506826
No, but has the strongest nipples for sure

>>22506918
Ah fuck, my bad. I mistook their debut date for Gamers

>>22506704
>They just seem to speak japanese most of the time

It's the way they found to incline. The ones with the worse median on KR tends to speak KR the most

Youtube is absolutely imploding Ina's stream. She can't get viewers because it just hiccups and cleaves off hundreds of viewers that have to get reverified. This is looking ABYSMAL

Ina's past 2 drawing streams hit 7k viewers by 15 minutes. It's been 40 minutes and she's just barely crossed it.

>>22506948
Their fanbases hate each other. You can't even bring up Suisei to 35p without them calling you cancer and telling you to kill yourself.

>>22506436
Here is the ranking containing just Nijisanji. Second to last column has the generation, from that you can figure out their debut date.

You can figure out some very damning things tho
>highest ranked Edengumi gets outranked by Selen
>highest ranked Selejo gets outranked by Nina
>highest ranked Ranunculus gets outranked by the highest ranked Selejo

>>22506436
2017: Sora
2018: Aqua
2019: Pekora
2020: Gura
2021: Laplus
2022: Kobo

>>22499617
Never. He's not interested in making side-projects for later down the line content like Ame. At most maybe he'll go down the dangerous path Rushia, Chloe, and Lammy go and just tailor his merch and streams to pander even further to his own gachis.

>>22507039
man thats a big dropoff after 2020

>>22507037
>highest ranked Ranunculus gets outranked by the highest ranked Selejo
Oof that hurts

>>22507031
Meds

>>22507070
Laplus' fault, she could have been a 20k+ every time with more consistent habits and better stream choices.

>>22506995
Yeah, this stream is fucked. I'm not going to hold a low number against her on this one.

>>22506995
Isn't it her ISP at this point ? She is the only one who gets this kind of fuck up in EN

>>22506826
>Wait, I thought Lauren is the strongest Edengumi?
A-Anon....

>>22506826
>Lauren
oh no no no, nipplesisters...

Has any company pay their worker's salary after a few months based on their performance? Let's say they were given a base salary after starting work, but depending on their performance after 2 months, their base salary could be improved again. Honestly, I want this to be the case for all new Holo Contracts. Have them proof themselves first in the first two months before giving them any good benefits that could make them lazy. HoloX/Council/ID3 really do be looking lazy already after their first two weeks. Management should just force them to work 6 times a week, 2 hours a day, playing the most buff games or content already listed and banning games like FF14, Nier, Mori etc.

>>22506995
I know she doesnt really wanna move away from her parents, but she should atleast get an office or something with better provider options. This has been a constant issue for months even with her changing internet plans.

>>22507230
>>22507198
Nothingburtger

>>22507079
>Oof that hurts
Not as much as

>highest ranked Ranunculus gets outranked by the highest ranked Holostar

>>22507277
She should be able to get both a DSL and Cable connection and one of those routers that load balances them.

>>22507306
>Still hasn't returned even after 1 month
Oh yeah, sure... it's nothingburger

Oh man Ina's stream just dropped and sent me and i guess a lot of other people to new videos.

>>22507311
Isn't stars above selejo?

>>22507270
>Has any company pay their worker's salary after a few months based on their performance?
Anon, it is a common belief that Nijisanji doesn't even have a salary (except maybe for some of the first wave, as described by Mito)

>Management should just force
kek, that's now how Holo rolls.

>>22507355
CANADIAN ISP HATE

>>22507139
Mogs all of 2021 without trying? I kneel

>>22507354
Honestly, he should have come back when all the schizos were obsessed with Michel Cat and Strawberry fag. Now he will be story #1 the second he streams.

>>22507039
>2022: Kobo

>>22507382
Stars as a branch isn't above anything. Here is Holostars vs. NijiJP+NijiEN.

Astel and Roberu are outliers, the rest of the stars would be together with the lowest girls of Nijisanji, plus Hajime and Naru

>>22507517
>keikaku doori
I will kneel if this is his plan all along.

>>22507270
>Has any company pay their worker's salary after a few months based on their performance?
Cover's main responsibility is menhera mitigation. Never give the spotlight that could cause many, many meltdowns.

>>22507542

>>22507517
>Now he will be story #1 the second he streams
BREAKING NEWS!! THE NIPPLE LOVER FROM NIJISANJI VTUBER COMPANY RESUMES HIS STREAMING ACTIVITIES! CHECK OUT HIS AROUSED NIPPLES LIVE NOW!
Red Letter Black Border style

>>22507617
Easy 100k+ CCV

>>22507617
Nipples go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>>22507670
>Voxwho?
Go nippleman go! I believe in you!

>>22506749
Kuzeha 30411
Ange 11590
Ibrahim 7665
Vox 10071
Alban 4468
Leos 3541
Nei 2141

Miko 21432
Pekora 28714
Gura 19169
Laplus 11834

Just throwing some numbers in there. I think it's fair to say Niji's newer generations aren't doing particularly well but a larger data set would make more sense. Q1 of this year is a little odd since debut buffs would still be in effect and Holofes and APEX distort the numbers a bit.

>>22507270
Cover doesn't give any "benefits" really, you go out and earn your own money. They give a negligible base salary to everyone. It's all but impossible for Holos, even Stars, to not earn back the cost of their model, their share of their managers salary, and some other costs like promotional stuff.

Despite being advertised a lot, Uproar is doing okay but not amazing. Cover should just leave one slot for charismatic and talkative ones to be the sole charmer of the group. Ollie is a good example of this and her explosive debut, she took everyone by surprise and subsequently made a lot of clips in her initial few weeks. It's not just the myth hype that carried her, it's Ollie herself being charming. Uproar doesn't have anyone like that, even Gamma has a hard time attracting people. Mysta is also a good example, but an extreme. He numberfags too much, and if I recall, he started the celebration meta for them. He even streamed on the JP slow first trying to find opportunities. ID3 Kobo is also a good pick. The only debuts I felt like that failed at this is probably Council and all of Stars except for astel. He only needs to network more or gets a better model.

>>22507742
Cover secures sponsorships for some of their lowest ranking members constantly. I'd say that counts for something

>>22507517
he also should have done the apology stream right away

>>22507721
>Kuzuha that high
>Yet still slips every goddamn time
King...

>>22507617
he should just own up to it. Buy the JAV he pirated and then do a return stream that's a watch-along of it

>>22507270
Supposedly they let them renegotiate for better cuts of whatever they're good at, like SC farming for Rushia/Coco, memberships for Gura, or music stuff for Susei/Mori when they hit their one year contract and re-sign.

Sorry Ina, shouldn't have made fun of Watame in your mind

>>22503167
God I fucking hate apex fags. I hope she chokes in the tournament.

>>22507820
He's a dragonball z tier jobber for vtuber golds

>>22507270
Hololive is the only one that does base salary as for raises based on performance we don't know. The Hololive Salary was basically a "Just in case" sort of thing because back before they blew up they didn't really have enough in terms of merch or donations to really support the talents as a full on job. On top of that they started in the era of Kizuna Ai and the former kings where pre recorded videos and skits were more common so superchats weren't even a thing for them starting out.

>>22507862
>King is basically Yamcha
huh

>>22507858
You would think she'd fucking fix her shit by now. FIrst she spent 8 months blaming youtube and now that she's finally "Fixing it" she's still having ISP troubles.

>>22507742
>They give a negligible base salary to everyone.
What is this even based on? From what I can remember, Suisei seemed to think her INNK salary way back when was enough to become full time streamer, Mori said her salary was decent, and Matsuri complained that it barely covered her (almost certainly) Tokyo rent, which might mean it's actually decent since it's Matsuri's common sense meeting some of the most expensive areas in the world.

>>22507820
They don't call him the Silver King for nothing.

>>22507820
Well this is just using April's data which includes the tournament, so he's mega buffed, just like Aqua is Omega god buffed. Which is why a bigger data set makes sense but has it's own issues regarding debuts etc.

>>22507835
Honestly he's lucky it was just nipple porn so he could laugh it off. If it was some toilet fairy or scat jav level shit he'd actually have no chance of coming back

>>22507902
Rude, he's at least Vegeta

>>22507923
They say this rrat based on what some of the girls disclosed, without realizing they disclosed their pay *minus* what they advanced to make their merch

>>22507913
She's not tech savvy enough to diagnose the problem. Nothing can be fixed until she figures it out and she unable/unwilling to enlist the support of someone who knows what they are doing. The fact she thinks calling the ISP will help is not promising, to put it mildly

>>22507808
If you show up and play ball, appear in concerts, Hologra, do streams on the main channel ect you get that kind of stuff, even if your numbers are meh. You're not getting the big sponsorships tho because they sponsors want someone who can move their product, not Roboco. Ayame is a special case because despite being overall kind of useless, she's still quite popular.

>>22507835
He should invite the actress who called him out, to join him. Easy 150k ccv

>>22507795
They made a mistake not hiring somebody who can speak English for Uproar. Holostars has a sizable EOP base and really needed that bridge between JP and EN. Especially if they plan on doing StarsEN this year.

>>22507989
>some of the girls
Who?

>>22507617
If he comes back and rolls with the nipple memes and jokes I would unironically kneel and fully support him as my first male oshi.

>>22508003
This is false, sponsors don't always want the top talent as their ambassador because sometimes it's just not worth the cost.

>>22508081
It was in a members stream, I don't need to spoonfeed you EOP, go do your fucking reps

>>22507995
>until she figures it out and she unable/unwilling to enlist the support of someone who knows what they are doing
This but more: neither she or ANY of the other girls should be skimping on what is their MAIN tool to perform their job, their internet connection.

These girls should get a BUSINESS plan, eat the increase in cost (and deduct it from their taxes as a business expense) to get a guaranteed SLA with the ISP having a contractual obligation to fix their shit the millisecond she complains

>>22508049
So they needed a male Pikamee?

>>22507517
or he should just have apologized and kept on streaming

>>22508081
Kanata mentioned it in the past, Aki and Matsuri, but from the time of their debuts, Lamy more recently (including having her whole paycheque docked to pay for her merch)

>>22508049
Why would they cannibalize the future StarsEN market demographic?

>>22508117
While you're completely correct, Ina is an extreme autist who only just learned how to open a bank account this year and would never be able to set that up herself. And clearly cover doesn't give a single fuck about supporting any of HoloEN so they're at a bit of an impasse.

>>22508165
Not he, the company
>what happened was due to the lack of proper training for out streamers with regards to the matter and, for that, we apologize
Cover turned a potential yabe for Nene (which was entirely her fault) into a nothingburger exactly like that

>>22507913
I don't know where she lives in Canada (west coast?) but even if you live in the bush, it wouldn't be that bad. Must be something on her end she has no clue about.

>>22508117
Business plans aren't even that expensive. They should really do multiple connections with failover, which would be fairly simple for a competent network admin to setup. Given their fanbase I bet literally a dozen of her members could do it in 30 minutes. They should also have back-up hardware. But, they just don't for reasons I don't understand

>>22508081
Watame literally confirmed that she won't receive salary for the coming months because My Song MV's high cost.

>>22508184
That wouldn't happen at all. Did Haachama, Coco, or Lui cannibalize HoloEN? No, of course not. It would get the fans more engaged with Stars before dropping StarsEN and would give you somebody from JP that they could easily collab with.

>>22508328
That sounds bad but in reality her salary is a tiny, tiny part of her income. Her restaurant promotion probably was more than she made in a year in salary based on what others have implied

>>22508229
>clearly cover doesn't give a single fuck about supporting any of HoloEN
or any of the JP, at least in this matter, based on LaPlus.

I don't think it would be too practical to help girls from across the world to get their shit together with regards to internet. Ina is a big girl, she can take care of herself or, at very least, has the money to hire someone to do it on her behalf

>>22508229
>only just learned how to open a bank account this year
You're dumb if you believe that. Ina's been working professionally for years now.

>>22508117
Ina does have a business plan actually, and she's the only one using it while her family uses a completely different connection.

>>22508117
But Ina literraly did all that, she got the most expensive business plan for her shit leaf ISP, had a cable go through her room to finally have an Ethernet connection, and yet still have shit like that happen.

>>22508340
>Did Haachama (...) cannibalize HoloEN?
Yes, to the point she was told to back the fuck off the hashtag

>>22508371
I don't know if it's just her base salary, or if her cut of SC and memberships money are also included in that.

>>22508081
Coco probably. She mentioned she thought the salary would be more but as time went on she probably renegotiated her payment and superchats cut since she was able to afford moving and buying some expensive furniture like her bed. That's not taking into account merch which sold like hot cakes.

>>22508482
If they took several months from that that must've been an absurdly expensive MV because Watame has a shitload of members and around 30-40K in superchats alone per month. Add her ad rev and salary and that's some very serious money, even for a Holo

>>22508428
>Ina does have a business plan actually,
>>22508439
>But Ina literraly did all that,
Then she's lacking another very important business expense
>one of the hook nosed expensive shysters to send an angry letter and demand the contract to be fulfilled to the letter

That's the holy triangle of modern contractors
>get a fucking lawyer
>get a fucking accountant
>get a fucking business bank account, internet account and everything else you need for your business

Then use the first to guarantee everything works, and use the second to guarantee you are not overpaying either the products and services or your taxes.

>>22508632
The advance is docked from the salary paycheque, not from the donations or other revenue sources, it seems

>>22508632
I don't know if it's correct, but I remember some anon /here/ theorized that My Song cost is at least in $50k ballpark based on how much Moona High Tide costs.

>>22508648
Man a lawyer isn't needed yet. Answer the basic question, where is the connection failing? At the ISP? Modem? Router? Or her computer? Even something as simple as a traceroute can give you a ton of information, and there are much better tools than that now. Ina's not dumb I don't know why she hasn't checked logs and done some basic analysis yet.

Sorry Ina, two views is for grownups

>>22507037
>highest ranked Edengumi gets outraned by Selen
>highest ranked Selejo gets outranked by Nina
>Mito below both Vox and Mysta

Nijisanji JP...

>>22506809
Don't worry, she'll stream tomorrow and do well. Then it's the tournament, and as long as they can play ok and not die first every time it shouldn't affect it much. And then ofc it's best to hope that she doesn't do her solo masters push this month, that would probably affect it a bit.
But she's getting close to her average number of streams/month already, so she's probably take a break until may after the tournament.

>>22508777
Anon, her time is too valuable for "basic analysis"; she's paying for a business connection.

All she has to do is to call the ISP business line and say
>my customer number is XXXX, my internet is cutting off.
>My contract says you have 1 business day to send someone to fix it. Please do it.
>My contract also says the SLA is (let's say) 99.9 and I get refunded any time over that that my connection is not working

Is the fact that the viewer count in an offline stream goes down to 1 eve when there are several people typing in chat evidence of ccvid?

>>22508994
Given that rebooting her comptuer and router is solving the problem I'm worried the issues is actually on her end, not the ISP's, though it could just be a conincidence

>>22508869
>highest ranked Edengumi gets outranked by Selen
Remember, that's Edengumi WITHOUT nippleman.

So 4/5 of Myth went sub 10k recently while 2/5 on Council.

>>22507037
Thanks chartanon and yeah the JP side is grim as fuck. Ib who debuted back in 2020 would technically be NijiJp's last "star" and he doesn't even cross 5 digits. What was Lauren's CCV by the way? As an aside, Riku is real damn lucky that Luxiem caught on with the chink Fujos because if they got beat to the punch by some pretty boy "Justin Bieber" wannabe a few months prior to debut than NijiEn might've become stagnant and we'd have to keep dealing with some dumbass pretending that Selen getting 4k is some monumental achievement.

>>22509059
I mean if one of your talents self immolates due to streaming evidence of his pirated nipple porn, I think it's fair to say they aren't a success/can be discounted

dead hour so it's /news/ time. not lulu is back after being out for almost 2 weeks and she's fit too. I wonder how long is it gonna take for marine and mio to come back since their throats are weak to begin with.

>>22509134
Hey now, Anycolor deserves at least half of the blame.

>>22509105
I'm still not convinced tapping the Chink fujo market is a good idea long-term. It heavily filters Western audiences and carries a lot of risk for what seems like a moderate short term gain. Or let me put it this way, if there's some huge drama with chinks and Vox in the next 6 months would you be surprised? At all? They have to tread carefully and honestly, Vox doesn't seem that smart (see: altering a TW artists art to place a ROC flag in the background and using it as a fucking thumbnail).

>>22509095
>So 4/5 of Myth went sub 10k
Ina and Gura are both above 10k

>>22509194
Not Lulu had the coof too?
Maybe Mio and Marine will go around with a chalkboard to write things when needed

>>22509194
<Marine'
>taking care of anything
lmao

>>22509280
Eh Mori is a musician who uses streaming as a secondary income source/marketing. Her and Cover probably care more about her music streams/album sales than her ccv. And with a Sololive coming up, that's where the real money is.

>>22509278
Vox will be fine. If he survived the Duolingo Taiwan flag yab, I doubt there's anything he can do that will piss off his fujos.

>>22509427
But that's just it. He actually did piss off his TW fujos, but he make it seem he was pandering to his CN fujos. If he does something to hurt to feelings of the Chinese people all bets are off. He's not that special, if they can turn on Coco, Fubuki, and Aqua he's always at some risk

how much of the holo's money cums from english niggers? they keep pandering but all the superchats I see are always from nips and gooks.

>>22509580
For the last time, SC money is just a fraction of their income. They literally could turn off their SC forever and be fine.

>>22509492
Doubt it. Female chinks aren't like the males even if they are foul and unless bilibili goes after Luxiem then that scenario won't be repeated. The chink gov is cracking down on streamers left and right nowadays, making it harder for "legit" figures to enter the game.

>>22509580
Filthy EN pigs mass sub.

>>22509427
>If he survived the Duolingo Taiwan flag yab
He basically alienated his entire TW fanbase with that move and from what I've seen they never came back

>>22509325
censoring her real name so I don't get banned

>>22509580
This is sort of short sighted. There's actual super chat donations and memberships. Then there's ad rev which can be significant. But more than that being EN friendly can result in more clips and other engagement that helps the algorithm.

As an aside, I constantly see videos like: Gura music to relax to part 11, with hundreds of thousands of views. If you added up every clip she had across Youtube how many views would she have? Billions probably? None of that is money in her pocket directly, but it keeps her relevant and at the top of the algorithm.

>>22509278
Oh it's super risky long terms. Not only is it relying on an audience that's not even your intended one but the CN market is highly volatile and unpredictable. I'm not even talking about yabs or chinkouts either the general state of the internet and entertainment is always having a tug of war with the CCP and people have to continually find workarounds to watch or make donations. Relying on the CN market is a game or tiptoeing around a minefield and hoping nothing happens to fuck over watch ability in the future.

>>22509492
Kek, that reminds me how obsessed the chinks were with Aqua. Vox should be fine as long as Bilibili has no plans to debut an all male vtuber group to take advantage of their own fujos.

>>22509278
Again, the girls, before Luxiem debuts and after Ethyria debuts, were stagnant or even reclining.

They were not attracting western audience.
They were not attracing Hololive fans.
They were on their way to end up just like Nijisanji ID and KR branches.

Luxiem was a big shot of momentum for the branch and not only for the boys and how popular they ended up being but also for the girls. It brought numbers, it brought excitement and that, in my opinion, attracted even some of western fans to give the girls, mostly, a chance.

>>22509809
im not talking about western whores like gura. I'm talking about pure virgin japanese choobas

>>22509848
Did you see how fast that obsession turns into hate? What a country of menheras

>>22509855
No I acknowledge that. But Luxiem feels like trading on margin. Good returns but all returns need to be risk adjusted. If nothing happens and NijiEN continues to grow I'll be a bit surprised but not massively so, given the most recent gen's performance. But maybe there's some dumb dispute between JP and CN and every gets more nationalistic, or Vox says something too stupid to ignore, and I wouldn't be even slightly surprised.

>>22509820
I was just wondering about this, even taking out the chink aspect, how stable is the fujo audience long term? I'm not ashamed to admit I know fuck all about fujos, will they still be around in a year, or will they get bored and migrate to the next fad?

>>22510032
They seem like /u/ schizos in a way, you will always have a core of diehard psychos, but most of them will happily move to the next fresh thing given the opportunity.

>>22510032
Fujos have massive staying power. They make fanfics of shit that ended decades ago.

>>22510032
Fujos are more militant than your average otakus. God helps you if they feel even a little bit slighted.

>>22509925
Biggest contribution the Western Audience brings is unironically giving them even more numbers. The amount of viewers even through vods contributes to ad revenue and puts more eyes on their sponsorships. Big numbers also equals more general interests from new sponsors that want their product to reach more eyes.

>>22510138
Yeah like most super obsessed fanbases it's a very fine line between love and hate. They are dedicated to the ship itself, actual artists can get on their shitlists in an instant if they draw them "the wrong way" for example

>>22510108
There's a reason most of fujos material are old ass shit because they fucking hate changes

>>22510212
Oh god, the fucking HOAD for that one voltron fujoship suddenly popped in my head. Yeah, this bitches (regardless of nationality) are crazy.