/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9598593
> post post apocalyptic
you mean October 1st, 1997? THE END DAY?!

Classic case of game looks nothing like the box art.

>>9598810
It did in my imagination

>>9598810
>every box art must look like a real ingame render
Miserable fuck.

>>9598810
>Classic case
How many games just featured a screenshot as cover art?

>>9598810
it's an rpg, the whole idea is to use your imagination

>>9598810
zoom zoom

>>9598593
This game scared the crap out of me as a kid. The cover art alone inspired a creeping dread so unsettling, I would turn the cartridge face down to block the image. I still tried to play it, but filtered me hard. Tried again twenty years later and had some fun with it. It seems like a poor man's Zelda, but it has a distinct charm. StarTropics beats the shit out of it though

>>9598784
>tfw was born 9 days after that

>>9601078
>This game scared the crap out of me as a kid. The cover art alone inspired a creeping dread so unsettling, I would turn the cartridge face down to block the image.
Was it the eye monster?

>>9600603
It's an action adventure.

>>9602994
it's an action rpg
obviously not the same thing as dragon quest but ya level up, get new weapons and magic and shight
either way both of those genre terms are loose and pretty wack

>>9602994
Zelda clone with a large amount of forced grinding to be able to damage bosses.

>>9598810
I'm still dreaming of getting to play the game that's featured on the box art of Megaman 1.

>>9598593
The closest we will ever get to a Vally of the Wind game.

>>9598593
>bought Crystalis on a whim with my birthday money because it had a cool cover
>turned out to be the best game on the console

>>9603037
At least you got this.
All he needs is another game.

>>9603003
>>9603031
So an action adventure.

>>9602049
Zoomer faggot

>>9602721
The rock monster fucked me up the most. Not being able to see the werewolf's face made my imagination run wild too. And the claustrophobic situation of the hero. Surrounded by phantasmagoric hellspawn on all sides armed with a dagger and shield. It ignited anxiety and doom in my heart. Plus this cave theme scared the fuck out of me
https://youtu.be/mWn3My7pbYM

>>9601078
>poor man's Zelda,
it's better than both NES zeldas in every single fucking aspect

>>9598881
Bro, that is LITERALLY what Nintendo did to encourage potential buyers to give a chance to the NES after the videogame crash.

>>9605330

>>9598593
The chingchong cover looked nothing like a post apocalyptic game should look like.

>>9605046
look man i used to be this way too
i'm not saying it's an rpg to then shit on "jarpigs" or whatever, i'm just saying that words man, we made em up

>>9605521
he said post post apocalypse anon, and the shit they tell you from the very start is that it's after the apocalypse i.e not an apocalyptic world

>>9599382
I like how Nintendo did the 'series' type of games where they showed the actual pixels so people knew what they were getting. They were gussied up a bit sure but there was nothing misleading on those covers.

Think Duck Hunt, Mario Bros, Metroid, etc.

>>9605475
Sorry G, I gotta learn to not submit comments until I hit bottom.
I'm >>9606462
But yeah, anyways I appreciated those and I got exactly what it looked like.

I have a practically mint cib copy of Crystalis, was only opened once to take the cart out. Wonder if it's worth anything.

>>9598810
What a boring opinion.

>>9606475
Well the picture used in post pretty much allows me to picture what that poster looks like to about 92% accuracy. Those are greasy hands who wrote that post, lol.

>>9598593
All written scifi from the 30s-80s is legit the most imaginative stuff I've ever read. All sci-fi movies, shows, games and anime stem from/pay homage to/copy stories from writers like Kurt Vonnegut, isac Asimov, Harlan Ellison and ray Bradbury to name a few. I personally love how older crpgs capture a similar feeling as reading an old sci-fi story. Wasteland, fallout, shadow run, Ultima martian dreams, b.a.t, star control 2. Now with fallout 4/76 and cyberpunk completely ruining the wealthy atmosphere of sci-fi for generic bullshit, it's frustrating. The golden age is gone, cherish what we have while we can.

>>9598593
Because we live in a post apocalyptic world. There was a global civilization thriving some 12 000 years ago that was wiped out by the younger dryas impact that wiped almost all of it out.

Ancient ruins show us the complexity of the old world, but common historians try to tell you these were build only a handful of millennia ago.

Everyone alive today is a descent of the surivors of that cataclysm and the deep memories trigger when they see stories of ancient advanced civilizations.

>>9606514
Ok Randall Carlson, this is a retro basket video forum, not the Joe Rogan podcast.

>>9606514
Sir this is a Wendy's

>>9606514
those monuments aren't very impressive when you actually see them in person

>>9606514
I mean there were actual civilizations collapses in more recent memory, namely the Bronze Age collapse or the fall of Rome

>>9606542
Machu Picchu is more impressive than the great pyramids, but there are even retro videogames that bring you to these places. Such as Indiana Jones and the fate of Atlantis or where in the world is Carmen San Diego, or even Mario is missing... But we don't talk about that one, for reasons

>>9606557
the only mario game nobody talks about is Yoshi's Safari because the idea of mario riding around on a yoshi and shooting people with a gun is apparently out of character

>>9606514
No, it was a war.

>>9598810
The boxes had a back, anon.

>>9606665
did, did you shoop the crystalis cover onto a genesis box?

>>9606681
Having the box double as a case was literally the best decision SEGA ever made. I hated the end of lifespan trash that started coming out for the Genesis with cardboard boxes.

>>9606681
No, I typed in Crystalis box art in my friendly webcrawling search engine and chose a legible image.

>>9606694
why not just take a photo of the box in your personal collection?

>>9606514
well, certainly a more interesting way of thinkin about this world at least
even if the more realistic answer of why we like ancient advanced civilizations is because the modern world sucks ass through a straw, even industrial society 200 years ago seems more romantic, despite how bad it really was

>>9606695
Because I'm so hip that I still use a flip-phone and the picture would have been illegible.

>>9606695
ok

>>9606693
Having done the same thing with VHS tapes in the past. We did the same with the Sega games. Cut the cardboard and put it behind the film. Much nicer.

>>9598593
>>9606665
>>9606745
so are we just going to ignore the fact that the mc is clearly using the crystalis to attack normal monsters despite the fact that the crystalis DOES NO DAMAGE TO NORMAL MONSTERS?

>>9605330
I love this game but no it isn't. It's better in some ways and worse in some ways. Anyway it's generally awesome, just as those Zeldas are

>>9606542
I personally met a sphinx in Shadowgate and let me tell you I was in fear for my life

>>9606803
in what ways was crystalis worse than zelda? only thing I can think of is zelda has more "secrets", but finding those secrets are kind of low tier "burn every bush, bomb every wall" fake gameplay

>>9606812
the. grind.

>>9606812
Having to pause and swap out swords to properly damage monsters sucks.

le troll instead xd

>>9606818
grind would mean being forced to go back to areas you already cleared and kill mobs just to level

at no point in crystalis do you have to do that if you just kill as you progress through the game instead of skipping

even zelda forces you to kill most of the enemies in a dungeon

>>9606812
Zelda 1 has better exploration thanks to its more open, more detailed world
both Zeldas have more interesting combat thanks to the relative weakness of Link's abilities (Crystalis guy is super agile, has endless powerful projectiles with knockback) and a far greater variety of enemy behaviors and abilities (this is a big one; Crystalis monsters usually just walk toward you like chumps)
both Zeldas have more interesting level design; Crystalis has okay caves/dungeons/etc. but they're mainly just mazes without puzzles or gimmicks or anything and are almost all similar to one another (Zelda 1 puzzles are crude yes, but they're better than NO puzzles)
Crystalis has fun sword attacks, a better story and more interesting world, a better soundtrack, more bosses, better story-related puzzles (to balance the lack of room-to-room puzzles in dungeons), better items than Zelda 2 (maybe not Zelda 1 though), better spells than Zelda 2, and more talking rabbits
I dunno that's what I came up with just now, deeper analysis would yield something different

>>9606834
>better exploration
it's a giant grid
>better combat
you stab a sword
>interesting level design
zelda 1 doesn't have legitimate puzzles, both games are just "you need to find X in order to progress further"

>>9606838
>you stab a sword

darknuts can close you in, wizzrobes can shoot at you surprisingly or when you're unable to dodge because of obstacles, wallmasters make room borders unsafe, occasional exotic enemies like patra threaten you in weird ways... in Crystalis you're almost never really in danger except maybe in boss fights, because dudes just walk toward you stupidly and can be knocked back easily
and Zelda 2 has the hammer brother minotaur-ish things, the various flavors of enemy melee weapon user, flying eyes, bouncing bubbles, lots of different stuff, plus the danger of being knocked into a pit
it's more interesting

>zelda 1 doesn't have legitimate puzzles,

well you gotta kill all enemies and push a block, again, that's more than just walking down one more same-shaped Crystalis hallway
alright listen criticizing Crystalis is making me sad so I'll stop here, but yeah it has plenty of room for improvement

>>9606514
>common historians
Yeah people who actually study the field for 7+ years and write PhDs instead of some fucking redneck sitting on his ass writing Conan fanfic

>>9606514
And yet we have countless piles of flint knap demonstrating advancement and unbroken use of different techniques literally everywhere in the world until the chalcolithic (meaning everyone was in constantly but slowly advancing stoneage world), yet no evidence of rise beyond or decline from that (which would happen if people weren't in a constant state of hunting with sharp rocks) anywhere in the world prior to the neolithic. In short, there was no finno-korean hyperwar
Source: piles of sharp rocks

>>9607267
not saying he's correct, but just trusting the mainstream views solely because "that's what they studied for" is equally as dumb, especially when universities suck chode these days