/biz/ - Business & Finance

anime is gay

>>56569333
better than incest tho

Kind of pissed you guys bullied Baggie off. Other than the trip code he wasn't so bad.
>>56569345
Is it though?

>this makes bears seethe because its true

long Food stocks

I have never been this upset over gasoline being under $3 a gallon before
I need a change in perspective

TMV holders you beclown yourselves

>>56569352
What am I supposed to seething at? Looks like a pump and dump to me.

>>56569343
>anime is gay
a common misconception
also anime website

If you're not fucking your sister, someone is
This is financial advice

>>56569350
Baggie gets his panties in a wad and storms off every month, he will be back.

>*sigh*
Another day of living in a speedrun of the Soviet Union.

>Grabbed TNA Thursday
>Up 11% as of Friday
>it’s gonna be a goooood week

>>56569374
Is this better?

>>56569378
Yeah that guy is pretty great though and at one point he was telling me to fuck his sister.

>>56569389
its.. beautiful..

>>56569345
Long Folgers (ticker: SJM)

>>56569364
Just do a little TA on this chart. It'll make you feel better

Oh my god

>>56569383
Grab all the dollars you can while they're still worth something.

>>56569406
Is it really?
God damn that's quite the chart.

>>56569432
You can buy it, but *only* if you tell your sister you love her and post her reaction.

>>56569420
Obviously acquire wealth producing capital.
God damn dollars.

>>56569432
Is this real? People literally quit shit coffee when the corporate real estate bust finally hit. Amazing.

>>56569447
Folgers is garbage coffee. No serious people drink it.

>>56569447
Sitting on top of multi-year support. Could have a monster short covering rally, could crater another 20 bucks.

Is /smg/ a /b/ colony now?

>>56569458
No serious people seem to be employed either.
>>56569460
Maybe with option nonsense like Game Stop. That shit looks tanked to me.

>>56569385

I'm just gonna dca into swppx starting in 2024/2025 and keep on with that till I die. Hell never know when unplanned medical issue rears up. A fucking trip in an ambulance will set you back 5k and that's before the hospital does anything to you. Which hey sometimes you don't got a choice if you go. Dumb ass hits you with his car, you knocked out. EMS/police toss your body in the ambulance and away you go. All while that dollar spending wheel keeps right on racking up. Or heaven forbid you've finally done it; your enjoying that orgy with the 18 year olds and well your poor heart just can't take it. So again away you go in the ambulance.

>>56569467
Many other gaps I'd point out on that chart.

>>56569406
fuck almost that time of year

>how to make money
>look at fundamentals
>look at earnings
>look at stock dilution
>if all above look good, continue
>if the stock has dropped 50% because of no reason and earnings are still amazing and growing fast, continue
>click buy
>come back in a year

Congrats, you are now Jewish without the satanic aspects

>>56569470
Medicine is bullshit.

>>56569483
>he didnt look at the curves
you foolish fool!

>>56569483
More autistic than jewish.

you have no idea hoe long I am

>>56569463
it would be if it was allowed to be

>>56569487
But healthcare stocks are not. XLV and XBI are showing promise.

>>56569467
Are you doing TA on the retarded tracking error, 3x daily etf instead of the underlying index?

>>56569483
Oh yeah, what'd you buy a year ago?

Are you guys pumped for another week of STOCKS?

>>56569518
>XBI
>XLV
I cannot think of two charts that are more diametrically opposed

>>56569534
Well you don't have to hold them for life, anon.

>>56569333
Wish a girl would look at me like that.

>>56569463

>>56569534
Holy fuck the biotech index looks like it's on life support about to get treated like wildcatters in 2020

>>56569521
its TNA which is the stock in question

>>56569549
Anon... look at IWM instead. Please. We're begging you.

>>56569562
same story less leverage retard, last week was a 5 sigma bond market move and stocks are way overbought just like multiple illustrative times in the recent past

How bullish is this mumu bros?

Macro Edge is out.

how do institutions make money if the stock market is a zero sum game and its just institutions trading against each other?

>>56569580
buybacks

>>56569350
hentai is not real life
>>56569463
it ebbs and flows, just the recent incest game on steam did a number on this site.

>>56569577
Forgot the punchline
>at 5% interest rates

>>56569574
Even on the retardo graph there are two other similar situations that didn't gap down. There's no law that gappy upside moves must immediately retrace.

>futures

You are palantir

>>56569577
>>56569591
With US Treasuries in 2023, the interest rate is 5% but the market's risk-free rate is more like 4%.

>overbought

buy MARA
Lum demands it

>>56569610
Sorry, I prefer ESLT for my Jewy deep state investment.

>>56569629
>lum
>not shilling SOXL
...sus

>>56569629
Literal trash coins https://ir.mara.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/1330/marathon-digital-holdings-announces-energization-of-its

white smg anons can fuck my sister as long as i get to fuck theirs in return

>>56569577
Visa might be what I play during the crash. Take positions in Berk but that fuck is old.

>>56569647
Silence!
>>56569648
BTC isn't a shitcoin

>>56569629
Never trust Asian women.
Sideways pussy is good but a terrible long term bet.

>>56569651
Interesting proposition.
>white
And what ethnicity are you?

>>56569638
Meh

It's literally over tomorrow isn't it bros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCD1s0DPu5k

>>56569333
Jannies had to be faggots and delete the /smg/ sister fucking edition. Daily reminder jannies are kikes that don't want you to be happy.

Fellow leafs, am I wrong for thinking our economy is going to completely implode this decade?
I'm thinking of selling all of my VEQT and VFV shares and buying VOO instead.

>>56569419

Tell me exactly where the S&P will close tomorrow

>>56569668
They're going to get massive Federal payouts due to antisemitic attacks on their buildings. $300 is FUD.

>>56569419
>left: soup ladle
>right: cup and handle
this is fine

>>56569703
420.

>>56569703
Uh, uh... in New York! New York City!

>>56569707
Code?

>>56569703
The mathematically correct answer is 4377.50

>>56569707
I can't look at her and not smile. Is this yellow fever?

>>56569717
CSPL-019

>>56569720
Asians are IRL succubus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Mz60yTdOZs

>>56569667
uh i'm white ser...very aryan 100%

>>56569735
Soxl is the best meme ever

>>56569766
I'm not CEO David SOXL. This is his brother Dr. MARA.

>>56569796
It’s nice to meet you. Nurse Riot there?

>>56569766
checked

>>56569796
Is her arm broken?

>>56569690
By "implode this decade" what do you mean? Canada is extremely unlikely to shit the bed, due to our available resources; regardless of what you think of The Liberals.
BHP just invested several BILLION into what will be one of the largest potash mines in the world, in Canada. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/bhp-potash-mine-billion-dollar-investment-1.7013943
Canada isn't *really* an issue, you're just surrounding yourself with low test doomers.
t. Prairie Canadian

>>56569880
>our available resources
*Alberta's and Northern Ontario's available resources. The only resource the rest of the country has is a bunch of Indian immigrants.

>>56569880
I mean it's just gonna keep getting shittier which is what he's actually saying

>>56569364
Gasoline at pump was like 3.60 where I live when oil was $87. Oil falls to $83 and bam its 2.99.

>>56569831
Here, have a png with transparency

>>56569929
thank you for doing the needful sir

>the niggers in /smg/ still have'nt bought TMF and TLT
lol uhh hmmm
>>56569888
>a bunch of Indian immigrants.
Self report?
Regardless, you don't know what you're saying; so don't fucking @ me you BO smelling POOJEET FUCKING BROWN SHITSKIN NIGGER!!!! FUCK YOU!!
FUCK YOU!!
GO BACK TO INDIA, YOU SHITSKIN1!!! FUCK OFF!!!
>>56569918
How exactly? Do you live here? You're welcome to leave.

>>56569954
I'm actually an American fucking one of your Asian immigrants.

>>56569954
>the niggers in /smg/ still have'nt bought TMF and TLT
Your heeming starts, ooh, let's say Wednesday. Maybe Tuesday.

>>56569946
You're welcome
I have a few others as well

>>56569958
Okay, that's fine. It's probably a fucking flip, knowing 2023 Canada.
>>56569960
Wrong. Keep eating shit, dingbat.

>>56569980
Nah when they come to usa they only fuck melanin enriched

>>56569735
ugh her ass is so flat and kind of dimply... Jiggly not in the good way looks very unhealthy.

>>56569980
>It's probably a fucking flip, knowing 2023 Canada.
That's a tad creepy.

Ill see you guys tomorrow. You can’t have my palantir

>>56570029
darn

>>56570029
Before you go, post some good PLTR memes

>>56570066

>>56569954
this kills the suspension

>>56569954
idk how you americans put up with this. if i saw this, idk.

>>56570095
Just don't go outside.

>futes crabbing

This means we pump tomorrow right

Give it to me straight... I'm a small hands investor.. are we crashing? Will there be survivors?

>>56570121
We aren't crashing and there won't be survivors despite that fact

>>56570111
im not kidding, 10 years ago i went to usa and saw this, and now i know its a lot worse in usa.

>>56570121
We're supposed to get a decent pump between October and the end of the year.
I'm way to drunk to to explain it (if I even could while I was sober.)

>>56570138
desu the rural US is still pretty great. People always mock the "white trash" that live out there but it's better than anywhere else.
Who would you compare it to? The Norf's in the middle of Britain? The retards in Sault ste Marie?

>>56570121
we are crashing but the plunge protection team will save everyone in the nick of time

pic hopefully not related

Call your congressman and tell them to audit the US treasury.

>>56570151
why are you calling rural people dumb? lol. im just gonna assume the stereotypes are kinda true.

>>56570163
I emailed him and told him I was outraged they sent boats to Palestine.
He took a week or two and gave me some bullshit about our "reputation."

>>56570169
They're really not. It's weird the further up I got the more engineers I met who grew up in the woods in the middle of the country.
The cities dumb people. You should should run to the frontier not the capital.

>>56570179
its just about education. but in modern times, maybe not. I do expect the older rural folks to be dumber.

>>56570185
No, this looks like some invariant of human socialization. Turchin wrote a few chapters about it in his book.

Should I unironically be stacking NAK?
They're going to un-cancel the mine eventually as we further deglobalize

>People unironically bought a company called Jing Dong

>>56570189
>No, this looks like some invariant of human socialization.
why not? the stereotype is true obviously. its just that in modern times, the rural younger people leave the small town and go to uni or live in the big city.

>>56570197
>he thinks the US government gives a fuck about the people
NAK has a ton of resources that would flood the market for cheap. Competitors don't want that to happen. They bribe the government, such as Trump Jr.
Trump Jr. went out of his way to cancel NAK because "it was a nice spot to fish". I'm sure they have plenty of other people under control to stop it from happening.

I remember there being a huge shitshow over them stopping the project despite it causing nearly zero harm to anyone or anything. US last.

>>56570222
NAK looks like they're into some sort of intense derivative thing.
>>56570216
It looks invariant to me. Frontier is frontier and always will be.

>>56570222
the mine is extremely unpopular with the locals
You don't think there's a chance of the mine opening as the US tries to gain control of the semiconductor energy? there's like sand and shit in mines for semis right?

Berkie should carry the SPY higher right?

>>56569378
>>56569439
>>56569685
I thought that anon larping as sister corrector on Friday was just a one time thing. Is /smg/ gonna actually meme sister mating like they memed female brokers?

>>56570121
Santa's coming to town. Crash in January. No survivors after that

>>56570315
>he didn't grow up using his sister's mouth as a cock warmer while comfy watching Saturday morning cartoons
Did you even have a proper childhood?

>>56570392
>>he didn't grow up using his sister's mouth as a cock warmer while comfy watching Saturday morning cartoons
what?!

>>56570392
wypipo don't season they kids right das it

>>56570392
>tfw sisterless
just kill me

>>56570401
>shocked incredulity
This explains a lot of the maladjusted autismo on display around here. I'm sorry you anons are broken

>>56570407
my sister didnt let me do that. your sisters are so much cooler.

>>56569577
That’s trailing P/E
What about forward P/E

>>56570413
Could you guys just explain to me whats happening like I'm retarded?

>>56570441
Because I am

>>56570441
markets price in the future, forward P/E is forward looking
bobos like to use trailing P/E because it makes their doomer theses look logical and valid
like when someone buys a rental property, they don't think "oh no I just lost half a million dollars" the think, "I now have an annual cash flow of about $50k every year that I didn't have before"

>>56570441
We are going to be okay anon.

Wow lol the bullish divergence on the S&P and Nasdaq 1 yr charts is so undeniable, what are bears even thinking at this point? The S&P didn't just jump back above the 200dma, it obliterated the 50 too. Nasdaq isn't far behind, and the 2 yr charts look even better. Congrats fellow non-retards if you've just been holding/buying.

>>56570404
>Meanwhile ignore black comedians like Chris Rock joking about how every black family has a relative that's molested someone
Do you really think it's better in households mostly without the father figure there?

>>56570459
Trailing as in current and future as in guessing? I really am retarded

https://x.com/Partisangirl/status/1721191298106093872?s=20

>>56570472
Trailing as in taking the last 12 months of actual earnings data into account, and forward as in estimating the next 12 months of earnings

>>56570504
And since the market is forward looking it is what we base the current price on.

>>56570504
The last 12 months as in a "current" assessment of the last year of the company.
Estimate is just a nice way to say "guessing".

>>56570315
There is a good chance he might not have been larping . Shit is apparently more common than we think.

>>56570516
The point is that you can argue it both ways, but at the end of the day >>56570511 is right. The entire goal of putting money into the stock market is to turn it into more money at some point in the future, which is "forward looking".

Audit the US treasury.

ahhhh, after 72 hours i'm free

>>56570472
What people who post >>56569577 kind of stuff are trying to say is that people are paying so much for each share of stock compared to the profits of the company that it has to be a bubble and the market will explode. But that's only one point of view.

Trailing p/e ratio is the ratio of how much people pay for a share of stock vs. what each share of stock earned in the past 12 months. For nvidia this used to be around 40x ($150 per share, each share earned $3.75).

Recently nvidia made 600% their usual quarterly profits by selling AI hardware. This brought their earnings per share over the past 12 months to $4.50. The share price shot up to $450 for a trailing p/e of 100x.

However, people aren't paying $450 for a share of 2022 nvidia. They're paying $450 for a share of this new nvidia that makes 600% its usual profits by selling AI hardware. If these sales continue then nvidia will earn about $11 per share over the next year, making the forward p/e ratio still around 40x the same as it used to be.

If you think AI hardware sales is a fluke then obviously you'd think the forward p/e metric is useless in this case. If you think the sales will continue then obviously you'd think the trailing p/e metric is useless in this case.

In reality neither metric is entirely accurate because neither method is an entirely reliable guide to future performance.

>>56570548
I see what you're saying and I've heard it before and agree with it somewhat. But data is a decent way to view trends. I really am retarded so all this shit goes over my head. Living cost increased by a lot in the last 2 years. These inflation measures and cpi metrics seem bunk to me. My house went up 50% in value within that short time. If I wanted to buy my house today with the high interest rate and evaluation I wouldn't be able to afford it. I assume there is replica of me that's 10 years younger and having issues financially...

>>56570626
Thank you chatgpt

>>56570626
2023 the year nvda popped off proved to have poor sales. But they are sure 2024 q2 sales will be great as in on par with 2020 sales? I'm so confused... it seems like they're doing worse and they're saying, "don't worry, we will be almost as good as we were 3 years ago"

>>56569333
>Big ass solar storm happening unironically

Um bros, is this healthy for the markets? What do I short? Electric stocks? Tech? That red sky shit happening across Europe is pretty fucking ominous. Don't get me started on the ticking time bomb that is Japan...

>>56570611
>doesn't look anything like him
Step aside.... let the BBC (bestest, most transparent, unbiased and reliable news source available on planet, defo not biased and woke to fuck) through

>>56570680
>2023 the year nvda popped off proved to have poor sales. But they are sure 2024 q2 sales will be great as in on par with 2020 sales?
Where did you get the idea that "2023 had poor sales"? A quarter of 2023 hasn't even happened yet. Another quarter ended 1 week ago and hasn't been reported yet.

NVDA made more money in Q2 2023 than all of 2020 combined.

>>56570720
>that ai sort of porn but not porn tho
How long til Karen bans nvidia brah

>>56570720
Idk I'm seeing it on webull

>>56570750
Nvda lists it as 2024 you fucking mongoloid. Youre looKing at THe wrong data LMAO

>>56569419
>South korea banning short sells
>Japan is major panic
>China real estate shitshow
>Europe...
>USA is looking pretty fucked too

oh god its gonna be a blood red steep cliff isn't it?

>>56570784
I see the 2024 but my previous reference was to a statement within my replies. Where is the correct data?

>>56570750
I have no idea what that info is but it's not NVDA's net income. Go on seekingalpha or tradingview or something and look at it there.

>futures

>>56570798
Nvda lists 2023 income as 2024 in earnings. 2023 data you're looking at is earnings fy2022

>>56570842
poor little bobo getting heemed

>>56570849
Oh I see

>>56570788
Then why did number just go up very quickly?

South Korea just banned short selling until next year time to get some Samsung

>>56569419
You're a retard

>>56570876
Bunch of boomers trying to cash out and brace their asses for impact would be my guess?

>>56569543
I like Patrick Stewart but George C Scott made the best Scrooge.

>>56570894
>>56570788
>banned shortselling
My god, this whole fuckin world is trying desperately to hold the markets up with all they can. Can't they recognize that a recession might be something like a necessary evil? Especially after +20-30% or more inflation?

>>56570955
Oh for the love of god.

>rates rising were on the agenda
>6 million companies bearish on their q3 earnings
>most stocks have been selling off all year
>huge sell off sept-oct
>suddenly q3 earnings beat analyst expectation
>most companies reported good
>fed says we're not gonna raise rates anymore

Do you even use your brain? If anything I'd be expecting semi-conductor & tech companies to be bearish coming into next year but otherwise zoom out on that gay little graph a bit more.

>>56570205
>They also bought Pin Doo Doo

When is Bill ACK-man going to stop crying about muh Jews on twitter and get back to shitposting about financial stuff? I'm about to unfollow his ass

>>56570406
Nigs just rape their grandmothers

>>56570976
But anon, even with all of that, the markets are crazy sus right now. Economy is not healthy.

>>56570989
>Pin Doo Doo
I'm fuggin dying here

>>56571017
I will never buy the nasdaq as long as it holds Chinamen companies with fake ass names like these. It's the AMERICAN stock market.

>>56571011
I think most of the stocks that haven't hit rock bottom yoy and reached at or below February 2020 levels are tech stocks. The consoomer is going strong, the economy really isn't terrible outside housing.

Now, if inflation skyrockets again, and/or if oil goes up to 120+, we're fucked, unbelievably fucked. But even this happening with oil is unlikely, we haven't even seen Venezuelan oil hit the markets yet dude.

>>56571035
I guess the other factor is credit card usage. If credit card debt continues to soar, then the consoomer going strong is a bubble, and in which case you're right as well, and it looks exactly like that too. I bet January you'll see something happen, but mainly with tech stocks and other big ticket frivolous shit, I'm calling it now.

>Die deutsche Industrie hat im September erneut mehr Aufträge an Land gezogen. Das Neugeschäft wuchs um 0,2 Prozent zum Vormonat, wie das Statistische Bundesamt am Montag mitteilte. Dazu trugen Großaufträge bei. Von der Nachrichtenagentur Reuters befragte Ökonomen hatten mit einem Rückgang von 1,0 Prozent gerechnet. Allerdings wurde das Wachstum im August nachträglich deutlich nach unten korrigiert – von plus 3,9 Prozent auf nur noch plus 1,9 Prozent.

>+0,2% Orders in germany and it was -1,0% expected!!!
>previous month revised down from +3,9% to +1,9%
kek

>>56571060
Not mention shit like savings accounts are at all time lows, car loan delinquency are shooting up and don't get me started with the fucking housing markets in USA over mortgage bullshit.

Its like the one episode in Spongebob with Patrick pumping the giant bubble, the burst will be LOUD.

>>56571080
Yeah we shall see I guess, pick related.

If today isn't green I'm killing myself. This is financial advise.

>>56571159
lol. You spelled advice wrong to dodge liability.

>>56571159
probably crab. feels crab. smells crab.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDqN8sEl6oE

this whole fuckin week will probably be a crab until cpi next week.

>>56570696
dunno

>>56570696
Red sky on earth vs blue sky on mars

Sweden is the only market actually moving. Going to short this fucker probably soon again.

>>56569577
BRK looks the most solid of that bunch.
In two weeks we will see if they made any move regarding their Apple stake.
With their research method they were able to identify Apple as a promising investment early and buy into it, so I would trust them to find the "next Apple".

>>56571075
The y/y also came much lower than expected. The European industry is slowing down a bit but still overall strong as evident by the large caps presenting insane profits and earnings.
Let's see if the downtrend continues next year as rates are held steady and consumption actually starts decreasing.

>>56571257
ok ok ok Mumu. Let's say they will cut rates. Will large caps also pump or don't you think investors will pull their money out of the large caps and put them in growth oriented small caps? Why do you think large caps are so high currently if not for the fact that growth of small caps is stunted by interest rates and what they essentially do is parking their money in the large caps safe havens until rates go down

>>56571257
Insane profits due to inflation and people having money saved and going bananas increasing their spending because no financial education at all.
Seriously, i think we are going to be hit hard by the lag effect of the rate increase.
I'm not moving anytime soon, maybe the first trimester of 2024 to see how everything's faring.
Now on 3 month cash deposits at 3,5%.

>bonds dumping again

hhahahahahah get fucked bondies rates go HIGHER

Trading indices during EU session is becoming increasinly worse. It doesn't make sense if you are either not trading with extremely high leverage or really large positions which currently is also dangerous considering the increased retardation of the market. It's becoming more and more a buy/sell and hold market.

>Israel is on the brink of total war with half of the Arab world
>bonds still yielding less than Italian ones

Yeesh, how's a goy supposed to make shekels these days.

>>56571294
Cutting of rates is already expected as can be seen in the projections by both the FED and ECB (FED's lapdog, if FED cuts you can be sure ECB does as well). I think they will cut 25bps at most next year and rates will still be held at 4%+ by end of next year.
But these pathetic rates have little to no effect on large and mega caps. Also, they can buy treasuries and offset losses. Also, most of their debts mature by 2028 or later.
This is why the astronomical unrealized losses by banks (BoA and JP morgan for example) are meaningless.

Small caps have gotten the axe real hard and are the most vulnerable to a high rate environment. But pretty much all companies that I see on the European markets have adapted well by giga-raising price (price gouging). Yes, typically cutting rates benefits smaller caps the most. But I will still stick to large caps only since they have stable and massive cash flows, smaller debts (relatively speaking), and have preferential treatments in terms of loans and rates.

I am a mumu simply because I all those doomer events that people spouted last year and this year simply haven't happened. Rates are still very low and hardly affect normies due to massive buffers (we've had zero or negative rates ever since 2015 so people have had loads of time to stack up massive economic buffers), employment is just fine, and wages are also up (enough for normies). This greedflation has been soundly accepted and companies have once again reported record profits. I am just fuckin done and therefore went all in on large caps last week and already am bigly up. I am not gonna fight this trend

>>56571310
they're not dumping, nigger

>>56571373
>Cutting of rates is expected
>This pump last week was expected
Does this make sense at all? The pump last week can be attributed to the Fed not hiking. So how is anything really expected or priced in? Wasn't it expected they wouldn't hike in November again after data? So why did we pump?

This
>priced in
bullshit is pretty annoying. You can play it either way and it's only purpose is to annoy the other side. As I also spout it when we dump and Mumus cry how this doesn't make any sense.

>>56569352
My trend line isn’t broken unless tomorrow hits 437.50

The world’s major central banks — the US Federal Reserve (Fed), the People’s Bank of China (PBOC), the Bank of Japan (BOJ), and the European Central Bank (ECB) — will collectively print the most fiat in a 2–3-year window in human history in order to “save” their government’s respective bond markets

y jpow on wedensday. didn't he whisper sweet nothings into a mic last week?
Also where did all my money go?

>>56571401
JPow was dovish because the markets were failing (he fully knows what he's doing) and he sternly reminding the treasury to not be retarded. So the long end of bonds fell. Naturally, since we are seeing the end of hikes, the DXY also fell. Both of these are generally seen as bullish events. Of course, if inflation keeps increasing or will keep stagnating at high levels (which I think it will), the FED will hike.
But no-one will hike next month. Noone will be the scourge that hikes in December.

The pump last week was also kind of expected from a TA perspective. In the eyes of the market, there is nothing bearish left on the horizon. Christmas is coming which means high profits and profit gouging. The war has greatly stabilized. Oil and gasoline have come down. Heating oil is seasonally weak as well.

You can say what you want but we are still in a bull market where everything will be interpreted as a positive event. The market sold off last year as investors feared a big recession and profits cooling down. That hasn't happened and the insane GDP figures re-affirm the strength of the consumer and the job market.

I still think the lag effect will come into effect by half of 2024 and that's when profits should start coming down and we should have a dip again. But I am probably gonna sell the 29th December and just cash out. This schizo market is something I can't deal with anymore

>>56571465
>The pump last week was also kind of expected from a TA perspective
C'mon man. It was not expected to this degree. Maybe to get the index out of the bollingers (weekly), but not to repump a 2 week dump.

i think spotify will hit 180 again and then why not, onto 190
but what do i know, i'm just a trans btw who thinks zoomers will pay for music for some reason

>>56571465
>This schizo market is something I can't deal with anymore

On this I agree. It's becoming increasingly unbearable AND boring to trade at the same time. It's really weird.

>>56571506
The markets dumped because of the long end of bonds going go 5%+ and fears of war and whatnot. All of that turned out to be one giant FUD and bears probably unwinded like crazy and fueled the pump.
At least that's my take on it. It's crazy that all of bobo's hard work can get undone in mere days. Mumu truly is a force to be reckoned with

>$16 for average McDonald's combo

how much longer before fast food slop will be $100+ for a standard sized meal?

Are we really dumping? Will it take us 4 weeks to dump the same way back?

>>56571529
Good thing is I'm not shorting that schizo US market. I'll stay short EU for this year, the next and maybe the whole fuckin decade if managed right. The US on the other hand is completely lost. This is THE ponzi. Just compare DAX and SPX and how they pumped last week. EU is weaker.

>>56571558
Good. Consoomers of goyslop deserve to be exploited and punished

>>56571558
And yet people are buying and slurping. How long can this continue I wonder? And now food prices went up again in my Scandipoor country. Yet, nobody seems to care.
November + December bullish. I am out after that. I fully expect the market to keep pumping after that though. I suspect a dip and un-employment to rise starting Q2 2024.
>EU is weaker
Always has been. With the exception of some few select good companies like Novo, LVMH, and some others like ABB, Alfa Laval... that can rival the performance of US stocks

>>56571558
The worst is how expensive Coke has gotten. And I don't even drink the sugar coke slop it's all Coke Zero and the motherfuckers have raised the price by like 50%

>>56571631
This entire fake and gay economy has been propped up by price gouging. Eventually normies will run out of money.

I fuckin hate those slides

>5,7% gains on the South korean index due to ban on shorting
Literal market manipulation, holy fuck

Yo financial men, ww@? How's your private equities doing, you helpin' the poor n shit? That's fire bro!

I have no idea what I'm doing.

>markets

>>56571808
shiiiiiet where my temp inflations gains at nigga. im bleedin out my asshole over here

>>56571746
shorting is banned in a lot of Europe as well

>>56571746
As it should be. Good on them
>>56571833
>banned in Spain, Italy, France and Belgium
Holy fuckin based. I wish it was banned in real indices where there is actual volume and trading done though... like DAX, OMX, and so on.
How can it be legal with more than few percent of shorting is beyond me

>>56571833
>[laughs in CFDs]

Does china have enough housing for half of its population at the very least?
since they reportedly built too much housing for their population which is set to halv by the end of the century will it mean they'll never have a housing crisis and their housing will always be extremely cheap?
will china become a great place to live?

>>56571808
>Avocade Toast

>>56571833
specific companies, not the whole fuckin market

>>56571849
>As it should be
Mumus are pathetic. You are those kids that had those extra shields when you played "shooting" each other.

Bros, will January 2024 really get that bad for the stock markets? I might need to prepare for the shitshow by buying a lot of dividends.

>>56571849
Are there any sexy lum pics with her having gigantic chounyuu tits?

>PYPL in PM
PYPL bros we're unironically back

$AMC
H
O
R
T squeeze

Any reason for last weeks pump? Havent a clue as to why it pumped when I vaguely recall mostly negative news. Was bagholding but am unioniricaly up from a 1 week pump

>>56571746
Wew and they say the market moves where it naturally should. When I see stuff like this it makes me worry that theyre hiding something. So whats the alternative? Are puts banned too? Cause I sure doubt theyll ban lending out shares, assuming they even have that..

>>56571558
>>56571572
>>56571631
>>56571640
>>56571808
>>56571831
Uh, FACT CHECK, chuds: there's no such thing as inflation, only GDP growth. Right now the GDP is growing at over 50% a year thanks to President Biden's stunning and brave economic policies.

>>56571896
Pypl beat expectations and a couple of other stocks too which dragged the market higher.
PayPal seems like it's going to rush pass 60 bucks this week, I'll probably buy 60 calls and hold them all week

>>56571851
Housing deteriorates, especially under pood construction conditions. Talking like 30 year max lifespan on buildings. Probably due to the fact you cant "own" the land itself.

>>56571859
Nah. I remember crashing a tricycle into a pile of bricks and hurting my shoulder. I am not familiar with "shooting". The only shooting was when I threw some rocks at a girl after she threw rocks at me.
Shorting more than a few percent shouldn't be legal and defeats the purpose of the original idea of stocks.
>>56571877
>gigantic chounyuu
No idea what that means bro

>>56571914
Surely it wasnt that to drag it up. Ive been distracted only to open the app friday and realize my calls expired in the money. Made a profit if i sell or i can keep pretending i know what im doing and hold, maybe my account will go up another ~10%

>>56571932
Various excuses were made, ranging from 10% less bond issuances to strikes bringing job growth down. But the real reason is an illegal and unannounced yield curve control program by the Federal Reserve

Long dated treasuries yields are going back up. Mortgage rate origination barely fell in spite of last week so yeah.. Still no buyers.

>>56571917
>original idea of stocks
You mean an unfree market?

>>56571953
what about mortgage backed securities?
B class?

>>56571558
>standard sized meal
Are you trying to starve me???

Will there be any major shifts in dxy today?

>yields
ah fffuuuccckkk

>>56571917
chounyuu means boobs...

>>56571851
Chinese govt is making all the investors eat crow on the housing market bubble. Housing will be cheap for some time.

>>56571640
For me, it's liquid uranium

retarded line go up brainlets actually fell for the bull trap

>>56572092
t. poorfag who doesn't have access to level 2 info

good morning

>>56571529
>Bonds falling is bearish

Snip snap flip flap.

>Shares of Maersk plunge 18% as shipping giant announces 10,000 job cuts
Bullish! Who cares about shipping containers?!
BUY BUY BUY


https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/03/shipping-giant-maersk-announces-10000-job-cuts-warns-of-volatility.html

>>56569419
Upvoted.

>>56570970
Because the west and japan are aged (and so is chinkland) and the olds are acting in their own interest which is diametrically opposed to the interests of millennials as a generation.

This worked in the past 25 years with each bailout but boomer numbers are hollowed out and it's time for a generational changeover. Gen X is kind of faggoty and retarded with their israel love (Mike Johnson) so we'll probably see someone less faggoty in 2028. DeSantis could have been /theone/ but he let them get into his head so he's no longer the designated successor. Kennedy seemed promising but then he went 3P and is just going to flame out.

>>56572398
It's so dumb that people dumped their shares, they cut 10k jobs because there was a huge need for more employees etc. in 21-22, article on oilprice.com even had this info. If anything it makes them a buy because it means less expenses.

>>56572439
Honestly I'd argue that only nations like Korea and Japan have this "old guard" that is actively fucking them over. America is more that we completely fucked over our financial systems. QE was this easy fix that completely fucked out financial systems. And of course we have this welfare state that is slowly ballooning out budget out of control.

Europe is more of a mix of that last one as well as cultural problems that prevent success. Like their absurd tax systems too.

I really hope I live long enough to see east asia get their shit together

>>56572445
So when there is demand and they hire, you buy. And when there is no demand and they cut jobs, you also buy. Got it.

How the fuck is futures still even remotely green after the last two retard pumps on no volume? If we don't end the day or even the week red I am going to shit.

Purchase NatGas

>>56572480
This. I need to sell my assigned SQQQ and close my short on spy

>>56572462
President is literally 80.

>>56572469
Go look at their 5yr trend. Yeah, they're probably a buy right now. Maybe wait 2 more weeks.

>>56572480
What's funnier is that oil does the same shit every day with no bottom.
>early pump
>fails to break resistance
>crashes through support to new low

>>56570205
Yes, and i'm making money, problem?

>>56572515
But in 2 weeks Bobos promise a crash?

>Fewer rigs
>They agreed to once again reduce production a bit
>Oil rallies 1%
So this is the power of oilsissies, is it? Seriously though, how is oil this cheap? Adjusted for inflation, it's ridiculous. That is why I don't trade commodities... beyond manipulated. Gold is the only "good" commodity to hold. I mean, look at copper. It's basically unprofitable at these levels. Who cares? Copper is crap because of China and EV (although BMW reported solid gains in that department)

>>56571558
And yet burgers still deny hyperinflation

>>56571880
You made me look it's only up 0.89%...

>>56571647
This
I'm still absolutely assblasted by the fact hat our government and central bank are absolutely doing nothing about it.
It really feels like the kingdom time in France, where the king wouldn't give a single fuck about the population, until people gotten so hungry they took pitch and forks to go against.
Fucking history hitting right back, but now people have still enough comfort to bother go fight in the street

>>56572515
Lol.
>global trade
collapsing
>exports / imports
collapsing
>global demand
collapsing
>demand for shipping
collapsing
>globalization of supply chains
collapsing
>global shipping rates
collapsing
MAERSK IS TOTALLY A BUY HERE GUYS!!!111ONE
Lmao. I need to buy Maersk (and other shipping companies) like I need a hole in my head

A toast to Czech beer makers. Buy Asahi Group if it drops by 50% financially speaking.

>>56572576
When it comes to shipping only container shipping is suffering right now. Tankers, LNG carries are booming Dry bulk rates had a 200% rally they've come of a bit. Container shipping though the rates are shit.

Trick or treat bish :)
https://youtu.be/eFTLKWw542g?si=DL1KDp5qCqKNoddW

Oil bros this is the bottom btw thank you Biden for the 79$ premiumless put option.

I've got $60k and need to make a cool $5000 in one go. What should I do?

WE ARE BACK

>>56572639
We are so fucking back.

>>56572638
Sorry, that train departured last week

>>56572638
Buy AI horseshit two weeks ago

>>56572638
Prolly all in puts and pray for a pullback before we go to ATHs. If there's a pull back you make more than 5k if there isn't... well fuck it we ball.

>>56572660
BEEP BEEP BIOTCHHHHHHHHSHSHHHHHHH
>wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle

>>56569333
>Ethereum futures

Biz "journalists" really are as bad as video games ones

When does this become a palantir board?

There is literally no way today could be red.

>>56572708
Worse as they still might influence your financial decisions without any repurcussions for them and you know they will still be there to talk trash in the future (Cramer)

>>56572725
true for everything but Apple

>>56572725
bet nigga

>>56572718
>already about to shit itself
of course it would

today will be different

Give me a good stock tip

Sitting in WEBS since 17.00 will probably go to 11 dollars and then I’ll throw it all in again and ride it back up to 15 trend.

ETF’s are not suitable for longing, but this economy is condemned because all Oil has to do is touch 100 during the next inflation craze and the fed is turbo fucked.

>>56572708
>recent market moves
>recent
Cramer hasn't got a prediction right in his life, these faggots out here talking about recent

>>56572638
pltr calls
nvda calls
sofi calls

>>56572822
ALWAYS panic sell

By non
NATGAS
>NATGAS
NATGAS trash,
clouded your mind is.
Troon tech, consoomer brands, a heterosexual white man seeks not these things.

>>56572822
click Buy on the Cyberdemon until dies

STOP FUCKING SELLING

>>56572822
you will get the shaft too and like it

Is it on?

>>56572935
ok anon, sorry about that

>>56572822
Don't lose money.

>>56571786
Dis nigga using sigmoid activation functions

So we all agree bear market this week?

>>56572822
while rates are 5.5% tbill & chill

>>56570459
future P/E just started turning down

>>56572977

>>56571808
>$15 toast smeared with fruit
are the boomers right about that one?

>>56572957
its OK anon I would even take -50 to -100 just to make today's pump that much sweeter

>>56572987
>nooo don't go into tbill at 5.5% risk free return
>go into retarded stocks priced at PE of infinity that have been crabbing for the last 3 years and are one bad event from crashing 50%

>>56573001
>5.5% risk free return
What is inflation.

>>56573014
what kind of retarded retort is that, do stock returns not get affected by inflation?

also real yield is like 2-2.5% given current market implied inflation rate. 2% real risk free return is amazing

Last week's pump was on low volume. Is the reason I am not chasing.

>>56573014
Lol. I love how people regurgitate this argument. No asset is free from inflation. Your stock capital gains? Not free from inflation. Your dividends? Not free from inflation. Every single asset is affected by inflation.
>inb4 "yeah, well inflation = more revenues for companies so stocks benefit from inflation!!"
they are hurt LESS, they are still hurt by inflation - you are still getting hit by inflation - no matter what you are invested in, inflation is hurting you
The difference is that the bonds will yield you 5.5% and you'll get hit by 4% inflation
whereas stocks, you'll get hit by a -20% capital gains loss as well as 4% inflation

>>56573031
http://shortvolumes.com/?t=spy
short volume also increased every day while long volume decreased every day

>>56573031
it was a pretty one sided market, it is normal for it to be lower volume

>>56573047
>>56573043
you sure about that, chief?

>>56573047
we never had an accumulation day though, where the move up saw in increase in volume from the day prior. Maybe we SPY can break through 440 and stay there, there will print an accumulation day bar.

>>56573033
Equal weight S&P is down on the year. Going long stocks is literally just betting that Apple & Amazon will somehow pull more billions out of their ass. Stock market is still expensive as fuck on Shiller PE.

When you have the option of high yield tbills I struggle to see what fucking incentive there is to have any big position in stocks. The only way you regret it is if some giga bull 30% run happens in stocks which seems so far fetched. More crabbing or crashing is far more likely.

>>56573023
>2% real risk free return is amazing
For you not for me.
>>56573033
Businesses can raise prices or the products/services they produce/provide can rise in price thus profiting from inflation unlike a fixed rate bill.

>>56573066
RSP broke the March lows already, and I think SPY will follow it.

>>56573052
yes
what that data shows is for what was traded for the whole day but the impact that each trade has on the underlying is vastly different
short term the market was heavily one sided
long term it is difficult to judge as both earleir days and future days that have not yet happened will have an impact as well

>>56573031
Isn't that a good thing though? In terms of a continuing increase anyway.

Well anons my RH account finally got funded. Time to buy 3 itm puts dated to january and sell way otm 0dtes until then and collect my money.

The plan then is to use my 0dte sales to buy single slightly otm puts dated 2 to 3 days out and then sell 0dtes on those as well.

My suspicion is we see an overnight catastrophe and selling way out of the money 0dtes while accumulating longer term puts will be a success.

Thoughts?

>>56573142
she only fucks black guys btw

>>56569463
Is there an alternative to morph into ?conformity is not an option.

>>56573155
Don't be niggardly with your analysis of my position anon.

>>56573155
I doubt that's your mother

new
>>56573193
>>56573193
>>56573193

Baking but someone has to explain the Korea thing to me

I bought SPY puts
That means its a green day

>>56572541
Yes oil is literally manipulated. OPEC is a cartel and major customers are world governments. That's what you sign up for when you trade it.

>>56572541
From what I get they want to keep it rangebound.
Yes it is a cartel, but who really cares? Knowing the players that manipulate and their intention makes it easier to trade.
It's the same as stocks and powel rates