/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>was
>the blackest black company in the industry at the time
>treated their talents like absolute garbage
>received mass vilification by the entire internet

>now
>owner of the 3rd largest vtuber group
>one of the best EN small corpos to be under
>treats their talents very well
>rich as fuck, will 3D debut a 2view just because
how did they do it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75025303
>how did they do it?
By being brave

[Anonymous No.]

1. They found out the hard way
2. Thay went through a full rebrand (as in the parent company changed name and you won't find any references to Unlimited anywhere)
2. Their most succesful project (VSPO) wasn't started by them, they just bought its parent company

[Anonymous No.]

Found this cute autist in a random raid. Glad I did. She seems happy with whatever's going on there and she seems well supported. She was building gunpla and going through TempleOS of all things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75025303
>how did they do it?
lots of money

[Anonymous No.]

>>75025303
They bought a functioning ship and worked from there

[Anonymous No.]

probably idol, they do a lot of things similar to idol just with a lot more budget and they announced they are partnering together so probably getting advisory from them

[Anonymous No.]

>>75025303
>EN
>small corpo

[Anonymous No.]

>>75025303
they bought VSPO, also rebranding

[Anonymous No.]

>>75030578
idol is a scam though

[Anonymous No.]

>>75030578
idol is as much of a black company as ANYCOLOR/Nijisanji (especially looking at NijiEN), they just have PR that's not stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75031014
>>75030903
idol is factually offering more to any other talents than any other agency and is one of the only agencies to publish their revenue split.

the closest thing to "black" was Riro termination

[Anonymous No.]

>>75025303
we should stop pretend anything under them is "small" corpo at this point. V4Mirai on the grand scale of things is just a branch just like how Holostars is not a small corpo but a branch. Also fuck them still, people may forget but ill never forgive them for what they did to Miria

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>>75025303
isnt HimeHina also under them now? That was some good aqcuisition

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>>75031014
Riro was Rushia, not Zaion. Get over it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75030578
>>75030870
idol is irrelevant to the conversation since most of the shit started before they even existed and they "healed" their reputation before the partnership thing. Its mostly VSPO that carried them

[Anonymous No.]

>>75031333
Idol is retarded and understaffed and that hurts the talents a lot even if it's not deliberate. They've kinda sorta gotten to okay staffing levels but they're still working through their backlog of overpromised BS.

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>>75025303
She unironically saved them, anon

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>>75032258
>understaffed
Idol...my application is ready...give me the job offer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75031858
that's a cope, also if you read their announcement you would know they been working together before making it official

>>75032258
Like most small corpo, even phase connect had to deal with the exactly same thing and talents kept complaining and crying on streams and streaming on PL including Pippa.

[Anonymous No.]

>dumb EOPfaggots thinking it was idol
lol
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>75025303
>rich as fuck, will 3D debut a 2view just because
They came to the EN scene extremely late. They're basically burning mountains of cash in an attempt to brute force themselves to relevancy.

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>>75032390
its not a cope you westoid tourist, VSPO is literally the third biggest vtubing group even larger than that other "company" under the mousey. How is Idol partnership somehow more relevant than that for Brave?

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>>75032530
>burning mountains of cash
Thats not a problem for them.

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>>75032554
VSPO is black, V4Mirai isn't, I bet you don't know anything about VSPO other than them being third biggest VTubing group, other than their size they aren't offering anything remotely close to V4Mirai to new talents including their EN branch.

V4Mirai strategy is similar to idol just with more budget

[Anonymous No.]

>>75031333
>>75032390
idol is on a twitter Palestine blacklist so people won't support it sorry

[Anonymous No.]

>>75027712
She also DJs but she can't archive it, do check it out when she announces it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75032403
>>75032554
Here we go again with retards thinking they are superior just because they watch JP vtubers more. I suggest go back to your den and just talk about your random 2view JP indies
>>75015663

[Anonymous No.]

>>75032328
Who? For me it was Uruha.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75032530
They got a solid 5th place in EN Vtubing with that money, that isn't insignificant and I would argue IMO they are actually 4th given the fact their newest gen is doing way better than Kawaii's despite debuting later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75033001
>implying EN scene is good

[Anonymous No.]

>>75032950
Go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>75033209
>>>/jp/

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>>75033209
congratulations on proving the person you're replying to right
comically, many in v4mirai already have faster chat speeds than most of VSPO

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>>75033171
Move your places up one spot, I think you forgot one corpo in the rankings. It should be Holo, Niji, Phase, and then idol before Kawaii/V4Mirai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75033209
>Implying being able to read Jap symbols makes them superior
Lol, lmao even

[Anonymous No.]

Are any non-Phase EN small corpo talents above an average 500CCV besides maybe Nene?

[Anonymous No.]

Where are these "muh JP vtubing better" niggers coming from? They seems to be popping out more and more. Are they also refugee from that doxx site?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75033517
technically you're forgetting vshojo.
>>75033744
Without raids or events, none. Phase only has 2 talents that are consistent 4views, anyway. And I never would have guessed that she would be the one to do it other than Pippa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75033744
Rin Roca Coni and the new scientist from v4mirai I guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>75033920
Probably just random bunch of larpers or autists from /jp/
>>75033517
Vshojo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75025303
>the 3rd largest vtuber group
Fucking who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75030758
by small they mean small viewerbase

[Anonymous No.]

>>75033744
i think Idol has some? That Rin Penrose guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>75031333
I have been a long time esports fan, i saw the highs and lows of the industry over the years.
Esports rised and crashed multiple times in the last 30 years, but the highest rises and biggests crash has been caused by the venture capital investers.
These venture capital investers let companies spend money like no tomorrow just to gain market share in the future it market.
They caused players salaries to go from 10s of thousands to multi millions in a couple of years.
This was great temporary for the players, but the income of the teams wasn't even close to their to pay for this.
Sooner or later, the venture capitalists want a return.
The bottom fell out last year, almost all of these venture capital teams folded and the players salaries (with the rare exception) has dropped back to 10s of thousands maube 100k at the high end.
This crash has scared away most investors and advertisers for atleast the next 5 years.
Over half the esports leagues have gone under as well.
Viewship numbers have collasped to a third.
Esports streams who use to be 5 views are doing worse then finana, looking at you Dyrus.

Now why this is important, idol corp is acting exactly like these venture esport teams, spending money like no tomorrow without thought and promising the moon.
This may be good for the vtubers short term but I fear idol corp is going to causes unsustainable money spending leading to a dangerous bubble burst that can destroy the long term future of tge entire industry.
It happened to esports repeatedly and it always took almost 10 years for it to recover with only a handfull of personalities and/or players surviving the down time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75034084
VSPO, its mostly just in Japanese but they have the numbers although in terms of supa probably not much. They mostly plays FPS games anyway and collabed with a bunch of homos

[Anonymous No.]

>>75034301
>vspo being the 3rd largest
lol
lmao even

[Anonymous No.]

>>75033952
>>75034060
I think these rankings are only taking into account Youtube. If you add Twitch, Vshoujo and Mythic are ahead too, Vshoujo arguably #3 and then Mythic at #5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75034243
>I fear idol corp is going to causes unsustainable money spending leading to a dangerous bubble burst that can destroy the long term future of tge entire industry.
Look at the thread you are in. They're lining themselves up for Brave, who have already committed more resources to v4mirai then Idol ever have with their "unsustainable" spending.

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>>75034424
Right I keep forgetting Mythic existing lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>75033517
I think vshojo should also count. And if vshojo counts, then Mythic should count as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75034424
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>adding twitch

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>>75034424
Mythic is the closest to being an old-style MCN, which its what everyone accused Vshojo of being originally. They don't really do anything larger that you would expect of other corpos, do they?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75034491
>>75034522
I don't arbitrate definitions. I'm just saying how it is if you do include it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75034301
Those who still think VSPO is a big deal are either Jap cocksucker or just ignorant

[Anonymous No.]

>>75034243
menace will live forever.
in v-dere

[Anonymous No.]

>>75034725
I thought menace was the clown.

[Anonymous No.]

enough VSPO then, how bout HimeHina buying? They are bigger deal than that group

[Anonymous No.]

>>75034491
as much as everyone dislike it, they generates money and affected the industry too so cant single them out

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>>75025303
You ready to welcome the new #2 corpo in vtubing? About time nijisanji left

[Anonymous No.]

>>75034572
if you want to include twitchtubers I'd say Mythic edges Vshojo out if you add up all their vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75034849
Himehina stopped being relevant after like 2020 like most of Jap chuubas

[Anonymous No.]

>>75034831
I guess he thinks she's going to quit to hang out with her menhera friend some more

[Anonymous No.]

>>75034978
twitch numbers are different thing than youtube so comparing them sides by sides isnt really applicable

[Anonymous No.]

>>75034998
No they dont

[Anonymous No.]

>>75025303
Do people willingly ignore that one ES company that kept coming back and fucking up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75034998
They started leeching Hololive and managed to escape irrelevancy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75035367
Go back to >>75015663 or >>>/jp/ retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>75034831
>>75035158
she's been prepping a redesign on her menace twitter so she's either going to double dip or leave idol when her contract ends

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>>75034451
What i said about idol also applies to brave to a much lesser extent.
Brave may be spending a lot but it is targeted long term investsments like the 3d studios and they dont over promise either causing the industry to fuck themselves to match.
Also importantly, brave has the income from their jp branches to cover the costs of the new en ventures.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75035647
Idol is dead then huh
Yuko also did a thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>75035647
>>75035721
Meica been active and working on it since debuting, idol lets talents stream on PL

[Anonymous No.]

>>75033091
Etra from Eilene senpai

[Anonymous No.]

>>75035879
false

[Anonymous No.]

>>75034998
their vids has 6 digit views except announcement ones
they are more relevant than brave's vsingers even saki before she gets stalin'd

[Anonymous No.]

>>75035993
menace did actually stream on her birthday as menace last year while being under idol

[Anonymous No.]

>>75034020
The ghost from V4Mirai might also be around that ballpark on average, although it's more like 700+ for ASMRs and ~300 for anything else. She does a shitton of ASMRs, tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75035505
Westoid cant even present argument on relevancy of Western scene. JP scene is still superior no matter what people like you says. The entire Idol easily mogged by some indies from JP scene.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75027712
Who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75035447
They've collabed with Holo before, we're talking prehistoric too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mR5y5DAVSg
For Vsingers, they are fine with where they are but their singing hit the good enough threshold a long time ago and getting more popular isn't a matter of skill but more of an issue on how to hit critical mass and popularity and that's where Brave is failing them in a way. Obviously, singers in holo have hit a higher ceiling of popularity and have more views but being good enough more than fulfills that condition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75036101
>jp scene
Mogged by Filian.

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>>75035712
What I don't get about the idea of Idol overspending or whatever is where exactly it's going. Your initial analogy referenced salaries, but that for example doesn't really line up with what I know about Yuko's current situation.
The only real expenditure I could imagine happening would be paying for ads of various kinds and I feel like if a corpo was dumping money into that you'd notice people talking about it. Otherwise it's just staffing costs, upfront costs for each talent, and whatever infrastructure is necessary.
That said I was very impressed that petralight got their 3D debuts as quickly as they did so I hqve to say that the studio was unironically a great purchase, I don't have a good idea of how they managed it but having a personal 3d studio for their EN talents makes them incredibly unique among most corpos. I wonder how long it'll take the newest gen to debut their 3Ds

[Anonymous No.]

>>75036101
can you shut the fuck up Jap cocksucker. I said return to your den or containment chamber whatever >>75015663 >>>/jp/
i dont care your braindead argument just to act superior, you probably used all your braincells already to learn Jap hieroglyphs

[Anonymous No.]

>>75030903
damn fucking juice and their 3 year long (so far) con to get us. still waiting for them to clap the scam trap.

>>75034243
dang, you are a retard and don't understand esports, finance or advertisement . Call us again when someone in vtubing starts a poaching war for talents.

Holy shit, I can debunk almost every point here.
>biggest* crash has been caused by the venture capital investors*
No, it's your favorite games company with their shit ideas such as buy-in franchised leagues that are trash, uncompetitive and not entertaining.
>They caused players salaries to go from 10s of thousands to multi millions in a couple of years.
your games companies didn't want to enact salary caps and you wouldn't want to watch teams with bad players. More like they could but decided not to because that would admit to being a sports league and these things come with regulations they didn't like.
>This crash has scared away most investors and advertisers for at least* the next 5 years.
most of the investors are scared shitless by the incompetency of the VGDPs. Advertisers fucked off years ago when the VGDPs and eSports agencies did not meet target expectation and deliverables.
>Viewership* numbers have collapsed to a third.
for NA region maybe because they suck at most eSports. Everywhere else there were slight dips over the end of the pandemic. That the Rona was a big boost to eSports you fail to mention entirely is kinda funny.
>Esports streams who used* to be 5 views are doing worse then finana, looking at you Dyrus.
Dyrus is just not funny and now he is a shit tier player too so why should anyone watch him? League is not very presentable, never was and the hype has died out ages ago.
>Now why this is important, idol corp is acting exactly like these venture esport teams, spending money like no tomorrow without thought and promising the moon.
according to the juice companies own paper they are just not making profit but also are not going into debt and besides that have virtually no rules or pressure to keep spending up. You must be a financial illiterate
>This may be good for the vtubers short term but I fear idol corp is going to causes unsustainable money spending leading to a dangerous bubble burst that can destroy the long term future of tge entire industry.
again, there is no spending race and no race for talents.
>It happened to esports repeatedly and it always took almost 10 years for it to recover with only a handfull of personalities and/or players surviving the down time.
this shit is so arbitrarily. Most people in esports never turn a profit and just stop and do other things like finishing college or keep going.

Since you are a League retard, I'll just give you the biggest reason why LCS is failing: In the last 10 years, which regions had won worlds or had the potential to win worlds as a viable contender?
The Answers are:
1. South Korea
2. China
3. Taiwan winning one time
4. EU winning one time but only against NA because there were technically only 2 regions and then being a contender for a year
The NA league doesn't even have the potential to be a contender for the title. The masses don't want to watch trash.

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>>75025303
Fucked around, found out, was literally curbstomped so they brought a funcioning ship and realized "hey, this time let's not be assholes".
It's not that hard, actually. Just be able to say no to greed when it comes up with a stupid idea.

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>>75025303
Several company mergers and buying VSPO and the leadership of VSPO being kept and given high positions. Then they just proceeded to buy other big names in the industry and actually use marketing for their english branches so you know they exist. Most of the momentum they gained was from buying VPSO, and then a corporate restructure later that year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75036408
Westoid seethe, JP mogs EN scene in all aspects
>>75036209
Filian who? Twitch does not count. Also proof?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75036601
reminder that you are a westoid

[Anonymous No.]

I]'ll never get why idol is called idol even though they don't do concerts or even lives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75036209
>Twitch
Lol
Lmao even

[Anonymous No.]

>>75035879
Pochi says its a breach of contract. I'll believe a talent before I believe a paid shill

[Anonymous No.]

>>75037654
What the fuck literally everyone did PL streams while still employed in Idol. How the fuck did she (or you) get the idea that it's a breach.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75026989
>>75025303
The end result will still be the same because the company didn't change and is still managed by psychopaths.
They bought working project but will destroy them over time for the same final result.
It doesn't matter how many time they change names or how much they spend.
All they can do is destroy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75026449
Fpbp

[Anonymous No.]

>>75036544
I wonder how did that corpo restructure changed brave for the better since I remember before IPO anycolor did the same but everyone knows how much of a downgrade that was

[Anonymous No.]

>>75026449
Kek Fibby Bibby, that's a good one anon!

[Anonymous No.]

>>75034243
Are you that nijinigger trannie Ducky?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75034243
>idol corp is going to causes unsustainable money spending leading to a dangerous bubble burst that can destroy the long term future of tge entire industry.
Holy based. Please nuke this industry Aviel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75034020
>>75036082
Nova and Alias floats between 200~400 depending on the stream subject

[Anonymous No.]

>>75037654
>Pochi says

[Anonymous No.]

>>75025303
>debuts a mixed gender corpo
>corpo doesn't do as well as expected, one of their original 3 males is already graduating
>decides to try again with an entirely all male gen
>their new males are leeches and sex pests who target female indies and small corpo vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>75036410
nice formatting retard, I'm not bothering to try to deciper what you actually added to the original comment

[Anonymous No.]

>>75025303

[Anonymous No.]

>>75032752
>V4Mirai strategy is similar to idol just with more budget
What is Idols strategy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75026449
and grouping up

[Anonymous No.]

>>75034463
Mythic isn't a vtuber agency, it's just a talent management agency. They get you sponsorships and that's all. Vshojo would count though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75054429
Give talents the design they want, a lot of money, and hope they stay happy with their carreer long enough to stay in the corp (failed with Pochi and might be failing with Yuko too)

[Anonymous No.]

>>75055210
This is what black companies do. Leave the talents to their own means.
Hololive remains to be at the top cause they allow talents to do what they do best which is to focus on entertainment, illustrators focus on char design, management on support/marketing/making money.
Specialization is the key here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75055948
vshojo is unironically more relevant than holoEN these days

[Anonymous No.]

>>75056274
who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75033171
>given the fact their newest gen is doing way better than Kawaii's despite debuting later
Are you talking about the redebuts or the gen that has been there for 10 months now? Kawaii's newest gens are only 6 and 2 months old

[Anonymous No.]

>>75057674
I assume he's talking about v4mirai

[Anonymous No.]

>>75025303
Money and brute forcing with it the Microsoft way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75036431
This so much. Game development is fucking shit because they thought why not blow up the marketing division to be larger than the developing side. Fucking stupid and they are the ones trying to get the largest cut with the scummiest ideas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75061008
Got my wires crossed with all the idol talk ITT
>>75032530
>>75032724
is the answer for their subs tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>75062091
I assumed CCV

[Anonymous No.]

>>75025303
Either Keito Noguchi has really deep pocket and connections from his previous ventures, or he's laundering money for the yakuza

[Anonymous No.]

Idol buyout when?

[Anonymous No.]

Brave managed to get VSPO! to do something that VshojoJP couldn't. They are legit #3 in the world. But their other branches are a work in progress tho...

[Anonymous No.]

>>75070543
I don't really trust VSPO funny numbers, but in the end there's no other realistic competitor for #3 that I can think of besides Brave so yeah this is true
How much it takes for them to realize that Globbies are gonna end up DOA because of mixed waves and collabs will be interesting to see

[Anonymous No.]

>>75065602
He's burning through all the VC money he's been raising. It looks like he decided to focus on dumping the money on V4Mirai since they're the more successful branch overseas, Globie will get left to hang if they keep being failures. His strategy seems to be to flood the overseas market (similar to niji) but dump a bunch of money and hope it works whereas Niji did everything with the minimum amount of money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75073077
its funny to compare how comparatively easy niji EN had it, spending a fraction of what brave is for way better immediate pay off
Curious to see how VSPO EN will do, though I predict it'll bomb. Even if mixed collabs weren't an issue, there's literally almost no FPS scene out here to take advantage of. They have to build the scene itself out of basically nothing. And that's gonna be hard, because western viewers hate Apex almost as much as the Japanese do already, without any of the local infrastructure pre-established to offset that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75033744
>/lig/

[Anonymous No.]

>>75076333
>small corpo
anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>75075018
vtuber group built around being competitive on FPS games sounds boring so probably wont catch up

[Anonymous No.]

>>75075018
FPS isn't the only e-sports genre.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75076851
VSPO mostly only play same bunch FPS games over and over

[Anonymous No.]

>>75076851
but is there even an esports niche that has already caught on in Western vtubing? I can't think of one, there are some cross-company/big events occasionally but it feels like those big singing marathons are more common than some competition
The EN scene never really developed any vtuhing genre outside of the idol genre, everything else is a standard streaming affair

[Anonymous No.]

>>75077037
hopefully never will, esport suck ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>75036601
YWNBJ

[Anonymous No.]

>>75056274
You're adorable

[Anonymous No.]

>>75077106
What's with western scene hatred of esport?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75077418
NTA but I fucking hate that shit too
I don't even like regular sports, and I don't care about competing for shit nor watching others do it
E-sports is a tryhard mess with an extremely over aggressive and much more casual audience, most of its qualities are exactly what I want to stay out of vtubing

[Anonymous No.]

>>75076932
Because the Japs think that e-sports == FPS. The new girl is a lolfag.
>>75077037
No idea, but I'm sure they can find enough players for tournaments even in the EN side. VSai wasn't nearly as prestigious as it is now and a good chunk of the participants weren't FPS players.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75077418
you can see how current VSPO goes, their "drama" are stupid shits like alleged cheating, violation of TOS, smurfing, etc and it became like Dream speedrunning situation with outside judges. I dont want that kind of shit in vtubing

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>>75077632
I'm sure they could try but I don't personally see it working, at least with VSai it could abuse the undercurrent of Apex being...Apex, even back then. There's no real unifying game in vtubing.
I do agree that if they go a different way than the JP side it'd have a better chance of success, but it would also probably kill any chances of meaningful cross branch interaction

[Anonymous No.]

>>75077418
The NA scene never wins shit so it pretty much died there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75077751
This sounds awesome lmao, sounds like more fun drama than regular yabs other vtubers have

[Anonymous No.]

>>75036142
Mono Monet

[Anonymous No.]

>>75077798
I'm expecting EN to get the same treatment as Kuromu. Nobody seems to like her that much. They'll be outsiders and any interaction between the branches will be pushed by the management.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75077803
NA did win in Quake, CS:GO and Dota 2 back in 2015-16 with several championships and no one went and supported them properly because people didn't pump money organically in those games and instead supported shit like Overwatch and Battleborn because the space was ripe with speculative investment. There was already one cycle of esports bust back in 2008 due to the housing bubble collapsing where there was a Championship Gaming Series esports league that would do games like Counter-Strike: Source, FIFA, Dead or Alive 4, Project Gotham Racing 3, and Forza Motorsport 2 and they had even struck a TV deal which all fell apart.
I don't know how much more money we have to see not poured into the right places and have things fall apart again before we just conclude the conditions aren't right for esports in NA. It is just too expensive and gaming is too much of a niche relatively to actually have things work out financially.

[Anonymous No.]

>>75027712
she's a massive semen demon too actually. lord help us when she gets better equipment.

[Anonymous No.]

Wasn't NA one of the more difficult server regions to play on in Apex? Or has that changed in the last 2-3 years. I always assumed that meant that NA had plenty of skilled players, why doesn't that translate into e-sports?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75046790
get a bigger screen and 4chan x you phone pleb

[Anonymous No.]

>>75078687
Money

[Anonymous No.]

Tldr, just let me know if they're treating VSPO chuubas well? They're not gonna destroy VSPO, are they?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75025303
They just buy successful companies

[Anonymous No.]

Are they really buying Idol or is it all just unfounded rrats?

[Anonymous No.]

>>75078110
Beni seemed hype to get english kōhais

[Anonymous No.]

>>75078687
>I always assumed that meant that NA had plenty of skilled players, why doesn't that translate into e-sports?
Roru they always suck in esports, they only did well in Valorant because their entire CS scene switched while it was some of europe's C-tier players and below that switched (and still those C-tier players managed to form a superteam in Valorant which is extremely funny). So why do NA suck at competitive games? Everyone of their pros want to stream instead because they earn a lot more money that way

[Anonymous No.]

>>75032950
I support Palestine and i want to kill all the tranny

[Anonymous No.]

>>75034978
I don't know why people keep comparing Mythic to a regular corpo.
>Vshojo
Branded group.
Merch under brand.
Talents go to conventions under the brand.
Talents identify themselves under the brand.
Have managers.
Has a legal team.
>Mythic
Just a mailing list for sponsorships.
No managers.
Merch is handled by the talents, under their own individual brands.
"Mate, you can't support a financial group".

[Anonymous No.]

>>75027712
Glad you like her

[Anonymous No.]

>>75080046
look at filian's award show and which company all the co-hosts conveniently are signed with
camilla even pinned the mythic logo to herself

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>>75078766
VSPO is the definition of a well run corpo. 6 years in, zero graduation/termination, little drama, more popular than ever.

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>>75082085
Yea it's because Mythic helped filian with it.

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>>75082085
>vtuber asks their talent agency for support
This is not a wild concept. It's like:
>actor asks their talent agency to look for acting roles
Still, it's not a corpo in a vtuber sense.

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>>75082509
>>75082769
a mailing list helped her with that?

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>>75083338
being IRL friends with the owners of Mythic (OTK) helped

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>>75036410
>they are just not making profit
Oh is that all? Sounds like everything's just fine then!

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>>75083562
can't believe a mailing list owns a studio like that

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>>75083809
that's the WePlay studio you retard

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>>75083809
That's WePlay studios who invested in OTK who owns Mythic.

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>>75034243
>has been caused by the venture capital investers.
You're partly right but it's also the fault of Blizzard and their Overwatch League. They sold old money a promise of infinite growth in esports (lmao) and them old money were too dumb to understand anything.

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>>75034725
>>75034831
Wait did she made a recent change on her design we're talking about the PL of the green clown girl of idol right? I forgot her PL @ because the rrrats of her "leaving" weren't actually true, the only one who is probably actually leaving is Yuko like >>75035721 said on name of
>picrel

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>>75046644
Wait HUH? Globie is under Brave group?
>KEK
I saw they graduate the polar bear guy because he was dying or something.

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>>75083562
nice thighs

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>>75083562
nice pits

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>>75084339
>dying
streaming fine to 6 average CCV on his fleshstreaming account

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>>75086302
>6 average CCV
for a second I thought there was a typo here somewhere

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>>75087428
He seems to be redebuting on his PL with a new design as well, there he was a 50 CCV streamer (which is better than most if not all male globies roru)

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>>75087860
>which is better than most if not all male globies
Jesas...
what a horrific waste of money, god damn

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>>75087860
>there he was a 50 CCV streamer
Vtuber or flesh?

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>>75089401
Vtuber of course? I said earlier in the reply chain that he is a 6 ccv fleshstreamer

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>>75089590
I missed fleshstreamer in the first post somehow mb
I wonder why didn't he just return back to his old model after leaving globbie, it's not like much time could have passed and made it outdated or something