/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>Find a cute 0 view girl on youtube.
>They start talking to me directly in chat.
>Get nervous and have a panic attack and leave.

Has this happened to anyone else? I felt bad about leaving.

[Anonymous No.]

It's a right of passage for the 1view and 0view audience. I can't take it, personally.

[Anonymous No.]

more than I'd like to admit

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>>73263963
link?

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>>73264567
I actually don't remember her name. She has short white hair.

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I want to roast OP for his reaction but I'd probably spaghetti myself too

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>>73263963
nothing more terrifying than clicking an indie recommended stream and seeing you are the only person watching. i click off so fast i don't even give them time to speak

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>>73265219
Let me know if you remember her name. Ill take good care of her

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>>73263963
Yes, I can't save anyone.

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>>73263963
She probably cried after her stream, how could you do this to her anon?

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>>73263963
Oh, I'm sorry, do you think that's some kind of epic cringe? You think that shit makes you king of the fags? Anon I've been watching a 1 view for close to a year because I'm too much of a little bitch to stop. She knows my name and references me in collabs. God help me she wants me to join her discord and I don't know how to avoid it short of faking my own death. Get on my level you filthy fucking normie scum.

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>>73263963
congrats anon, now she thinks everyone hates her and she will give up on streaming

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>>73268499
> hes getting groomed by the streamer
lmao its funny to imagine a viewer getting groomed instead of the chuuba.

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>>73263963
Come back the next stream, say you had a problem and had to go asap, make it realistic not absurd.
Or just confess you were overwhelmed and that you're not good with interacting with people.
Don't type an essay.
>>73269585
Believe it or not, getting groomed by the streamer is actually the norm.

[Anonymous No.]

I was chatting with a 0view the other day. She asked me a question but I was preoccupied and didn’t respond immediately, she got really depressed saying that people thought she was too boring to stick around, I just died inside.

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>>73273086
>getting groomed by the streamer is actually the norm
QFT

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>>73268499
Marry her NOW

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>>73269585
A 1view I interact with has bought me games so I can play with her, I wonder if this is actually happening to me

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>>73273925
then that means she's genuinely lonely anon and appreciates you.

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>>73263963
The pizza...

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>>73263963
>there are many good girls out there
>not enough good guys

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>>73263963
dude today i found a chuuba that keeps track of everyone that follows her in a little notebook and gets sad when they leave, actual chills down my spine.

[Anonymous No.]

I avoid small streamers, cause they activate some retarded savior-complex emotions in me. I've never given money to any streamer ever, but came close when a 5-viewer chubba talked about how she was saving up to buy a modest gift for her mom. Got out of there immediately. It's not a safe place for savior-complex retards like me.

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>>73274304
jesus, she is definitely going to murder everyone on that list who stopped watching her.
you better go make sure you give her attention anon for your own sake

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>>73274304
Im kinda curious now, link?

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>>73274418
I saw it in the morning on my twitter feed but didn't save it, sorry.

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>>73263963
I told a 1 view to not talk to me once. She got real quite and ended the stream 10 minutes later.

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>>73274720
whew, brutal

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>>73274720
why did you do that? that's pretty rude

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>>73274720
LMAO. Thats so evil.

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>>73263963
Can't be any worse than that one anon who panicked and dropped his spaghetti when he was the only one in a 0views chat and when she started talking to him and he asked her not to talk to him.

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>>73274720
>>73275075


Oh shit is that you anon?

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder how much of the difficulty streamers have from moving up from being 0-1views is this burden of responsibility that it tends to give if anyone actually drops by to watch them. Streaming if you don't at least have one friend to send the link and ask to watch so that the chat isn't just completely empty sounds rough.

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>>73275894
A really good streamer doesn’t always need a chat since they’re probably entertaining enough to just yap about anything, but the newer streamers are really hurt by low chat interaction because most of them don’t have the experience to actually carry a conversation by themselves. It’s kind of a shitty situation, where the hardest point in a chuubas career is at the point where they’re least equipped to handle it, these smaller streamers will cling to any viewer they can because they give them someone to bounce off of, but that runs the risk of putting pressure on the viewer to keep interacting which may push people away, it’s really hard to win here.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm lonely enough that finding a 1 view to interact with / get groomed by sounds appealing but my crippling social anxiety is probably saving me from taking the plunge.

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>>73277802
same and i don't want the responsibility

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>>73274328
Ironic that the saviourfag in you is what would bring about your downfall

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>>73274328
Yeah that's just the caveman dna showing up.

Woman in need. Unga bunga help women to mate later.

50/50 that you could just have been used or landed urself a lonely vtuber that you could have mated with.

[Anonymous No.]

>Follow them and they thank you as if you just donated a kidney
>They answer every single thing you post and agree with you even if you're super autistic
I hate being acknowledged...

[Anonymous No.]

I can't help but feel bad for these chuubas because I feel like there's a pretty high chance they encounter a fucking sociopath like >>73274720
who just obliterates their self esteem and self worth for their own amusement

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>>73263963
Unironically yes.

[Anonymous No.]

Funnily it kinda happened with Obake Pam, glad to see she's doing good now but I feel too much pressure to come back.

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>>73274304
Nenechi actually admitted to doing this.
She also stalks people on twitter.

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>>73263963
This is actually a super interesting thread to me as a vtuber. I get upset when I see I have a lot of viewers and nobody is chatting, or when I chat to a viewer and they disappear. I never understood why. I don’t have social anxiety or anything like that, so can someone explain the protocol to me? As a streamer, what would you prefer me to do? Talk to chat or ignore the chat? I see some big company vtubers often get criticised for not interacting with chat, so I thought talking to people in that chat would make them like me more and stick around. Have I been doing it wrong this whole time…?

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>>73282389
i wouldn't worry about random autists.
just talk to chat, that's what separates livestreamers apart from prerecorded videos. the engagement. if people talk in chat they are engaging and you talking back to them is engagement and usually encourages people to talk.

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>>73282389
Sadly it's just a potshot, statistically some snipe low view chuubas because they want to be able to talk to them, some hate being put on the spotlight and want to be a passive observer, and there's no way to tell which kind of viewer they are until it happens. I guess the only way is to not answer right away and only do if they're comments specifically try to get answers out of you, and even then someone might get their jimmies rustled.

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>>73282389
also obligatory what's your name/channel?

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>>73282389
I'd say keep up the viewer interaction and don't take it too hard if you scare some viewers off. Nothing to take personally.
t. socially anxious person who gets scared if a vtuber directly addresses me

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>>73282389
If chat is quiet, just wonder things aloud. Some people jusy have a tab open while they mosey about, others are withdrawn and enjoy content passively.
A lot of interaction is just emote bombing and regular greetings. If you find something that makes them respond, note it down.

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>>73263963
Sometimes I get cocky in my nihongo reps and try to chat with 0 views on twitch. Then they talk too fast and I can't keep up so I close the stream.

[Anonymous No.]

i want to be the 1-view in this thread… i’m so lonely anons…

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>>73269585
>Miss a stream and she acts like you stood her up for a date
>whenever she wants to crack a joke you're the first person that pops in her head
>Gets REALLY sad if you have to leave early, only streams for like 10 minutes more afterwards
>Probably will cancel a stream if you tell her you won't be able to make it.
I finally understand what Fauna was warning about. We CANNOT be friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73282805
>>73282849
>>73283580
Thank you so much for the replies! I actually feel it’s more common than you may think. If I have 100 viewers, only 15 of them will chat for example. I have had some pop out of the woodworks to reply to something I’ve said, so I know they’re watching. Whenever I get interested in them and try to get to know them, they disappear. They’ve also said they’re not comfortable with chatting. I always thought I was the problem, like I was annoying them or they didn’t want to talk to ME, but this thread has really put it into context. I like anyone who is willing to put up with my yapping, so I feel I should give them some sort of care back.

>>73282972
Sorry, I actually quit streaming a short while ago. I’ve got a different dilemma now (whether to join NIJISANJI EN or hololive EN). I’m opening to hearing any advice from anons about that too.

>>73283378
I really appreciate your answer. How can a Vtuber make a socially anxious person like you feel better? What’s something you would prefer we did/didn’t do?

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>>73284206
>whether to join NIJISANJI EN
Anon... Surely you've not been living under a rock this year? Don't do it to yourself.

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>>73284206
>If I have 100 viewers, only 15 of them will chat for example.
Read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule

>They’ve also said they’re not comfortable with chatting
That's fine, most people are just there to watch. Just note it and move on.

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>>73284206
>How can a Vtuber make a socially anxious person like you feel better? What’s something you would prefer we did/didn’t do?
I can't speak for everyone but for me personally, I think it's best when a vtuber doesn't get too hung up on an interaction. Like for example, maybe you respond to something and don't get a response back, don't let it stall the stream, just keep up the flow whether you get a response or not. Takes some of the pressure off the interaction when it feels like the whole stream isn't stopping to focus on (me).

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>>73284206
Also I'd look for a small corpo to join. Hololive is too competitive (unless you are extremely good it's unlikely you will get in), Kurosanji is trash, but you could fit in well with a smaller agency that supports you. Just do your research, there are a lot of shitty companies.

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>>73269585
>developing relationship = grooming
what went wrong?

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>>73284206
With how slow cover is with recruiting Hololive girls you'd best plan to get in a year or 2 from now.

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>>73274720
>enter stream chat
>’don’t talk to me you WHORE, women should be seen and not heard’
>refuse to elaborate
>don’t leave
Power move.

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>>73282389
My oshi mentioned making it a point to practice being able to keep talking about random stuff even when chat isn't moving, which I think is a pretty good mindset to have. Even when she asks questions she moves on if people take some time to respond, but scrolls back to older comments if there's another lull in activity.

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>>73282389
Don't worry about the autists here, and the >>73274720 sociopath hiding in the corner

Engage with your chat when you can. Build your community, bring people around you so that they can see how entertaining you are and that you have what it takes to be in the industry.

And have fun.

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>>73263963
groom her until she became dependent, if she is on twitch get the 1st subscriptor badge, she will always recognize you, but over all groom her.

btw
>zoomer cooking skills
please use some fucking flour...

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>>73284206
In general, don't single out people unless they are being "loud" themselves in chat. When asking questions, do it openly or even to yourself (some people feel better helping out.)
About the anxious viewers, you probably won't even notice them unless you go digging. There's just yapping chat and quiet chat at all times.

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>>73284633
I have not, but I do have more inside knowledge of *that* incident, how NijiEN runs, how much the talents earn as well as the general pros and cons. For a mostly 2-view like me, it’s a quick and easy way for me to be discovered, but yes, the reputation of the company will bring me down.

>>73284782
That is a really useful article actually, I had no idea about that
> most people are just there to watch
I accept that! I just never knew why

>>73284814
This is incredibly helpful! So basically you don’t like being in the spotlight because you feel pressure?

>>73284935
I reckon I have a decent chance of getting in as they had interviewed me before, but unfortunately it didn’t proceed.
As you said, it’s very competitive so there’s no guarantee that I’ll ever be able to get in any time soon, especially at their debut rate. That’s why I thought the second best option would be Niji…
So do you think it’s better I join a small corpo while trying for Holo, as opposed to going for Niji?

>>73285249
That’s basically my biggest issue. I don’t know if I can be an indie for that long. It’s so difficult and soul-crushing to do everything by myself with zero support. I really want to do Vtubing full time without having to rely on donations and super chats. My dream is to be able to survive other factors like VOD views and memberships etc. I could get that with Niji easily, even in the state it’s in now.

>>73285901
Yeah that’s what I usually do! I was just confused when people had breakdowns over me asking them a question, because I never knew what social anxiety was like from that POV until I read about it in this thread. I feel awful for guilting people into chatting with me now…

>>73286019
Thank you so much!

>>73287023
Okay got it! I always worry people might feel left out/upset if they make a comment and I don’t read it, that’s why I try to read them all.

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>>73268499
thats really cute

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>>73289138
>So basically you don't like being in the spotlight because you feel pressure?
I guess that about sums it up. I enjoy listening to the vtuber yap and like interactions but being in the spotlight is tough. You seem passionate and confident, I hope you find success whether you end up Holo/Niji/small corpo/indie.

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>>73289138
>So basically you don’t like being in the spotlight because you feel pressure?
NTA, but yeah, that feels about right. Specifically, sometimes I don't want to commit to more interaction than I was looking for. Sometimes I feel lonely and am looking to interact more, but often I might be just trying to kill time until I go do something, or want to leave a stream on while I game or focus on something else. In those cases being pulled into a two-way conversation feels threatening because now it's taking me away from my other plans unless I cut it off, which can end up being hurtful like it's being talked about here in the thread, so sometimes in those cases I will just err on lurking instead of chatting at all.
I think the ways to avoid that are to respond to comments, but unless a chatter is repeatedly engages, try to avoid continuing the conversation using too many directed questions. Maybe ask a single follow up that can be answered in a general way (sometimes I don't want to get into the details or start traumadumping if I had a shitty day and a streamer asks what I've been doing today or w/e). If someone feels like they're clearly engaged with the conversation then I think it's ok to go more in depth, but also be extremely careful to not alienate the rest of the viewers by focusing too much on that.
Whenever you ask a question, also make sure to always continue talking afterwards to not leave dead air, as that might make people feel bad for not responding. The best talking points are ones that should be interesting by themselves to listen to, but also leave open the opportunity for viewers to chime in with their own thought and experiences.

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>>73289138
NTA but if your goal is holo, don't join niji, try a small corpo because maybe, MAYBE holo and niji have a deal to not hire talents that graduated from the other company after Luna. If your goal is getting big or earn money niji can be a good shot if you know how to use your opportunities and understand that jp corpos are retarded, you can also graduate later and get a base of new viewers

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>>73289138
>but I do have more inside knowledge of *that* incident
Can you share some of that insider knowledge of the incident then, pretty please?

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The duality of anons

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>>73289138
>So do you think it’s better I join a small corpo while trying for Holo, as opposed to going for Niji?
Yes, for sure. Holo has a very low chance of working out, you should aim for a reputable small agency instead. As I said, try to dodge the shady ones, I'd rather not have more abused chuubas.
NijiEN isn't worth it in the long term, really. They also won't support you.

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>>73290012
God, /vt/ is really making me ugly cry today. Thank you so much anon. Your words honestly mean more to me than you realise.

>>73290023
That is a lot of insightful information. I’m really grateful you took the time to write all that. I’ll definitely take note of this!

>>73290096
I actually feel the same way as you - I don’t believe hololive EN would ever hire an ex NIJI EN just to avoid controversy from fans. It’s not worth it to them. If some small 2-view like me was worthy of a holo interview, it’s pretty clear that they’re not looking for someone who is already established. At the same time, I really really fucking love my fans to bits but I can’t afford to stream more than a couple of days a week. Potentially joining Niji means that I could continue doing what I love full-time, but the trade off is that I’ll be constantly hated because of the company I’m in.

>>73290306
It’s probably best I don’t, anon. NIJI EN management is definitely not perfect, but unfortunately neither is Doki. Nobody wants to hear that about her, so there’s really no point in me divulging. All I will say is that the situation isn’t as black and white as people make it out to be.

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>>73290821
>Nobody wants to hear that about her, so there’s really no point in me divulging
I'd love to hear about it. I support Doki but it's not like she is perfect. I'm sure you don't have proof beyond talking to Niji livers, but hearing what they've said is interesting too. Just a morsel is fine.

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>>73290821
Word of caution: You've probably already said more than you should have. I think no one's really going to pay attention to this thread, but bear in mind it will be archived and if nothing else these kinds of comments just spawn more drama.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't do it man, its too much pressure for someone as socially inept as me.
At most i can join a 10view and just lurk in the shadows, but a 1 view? damn...

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>>73290821
If you think you can't handle hate, don't join niji, they were hated even before all the drama happened, even before the guys debuted. Why? Because they are niji. I don't know who are you but it seems like you appreciate your fans and I'm sure they feel the same about you, they would follow you to anywhere you go, just try to not to participate in drama and be careful. Good luck in your path! This is unrelated but I want to join niji but I don't have the same numbers as you, so I will continue grinding, you should think what you will decide carefully and seriously

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>>73291000
Basically what >>73291038 said. I don’t want to spawn more drama and I definitely don’t want to get involved in it.

At the end of the day, everyone is angry at Niji’s management and that is completely justified. A lot of people here seem to think it’s the fault of middle management/talent managers, but they are honestly just as much victim as the talents themselves are. The upper management makes all the final decisions with pretty much no negotiation. Since the middle management are mostly Japanese, they can only silently seethe and accept it, but as you know, a lot of the livers do feel aggrieved by certain decisions and upper management practices. It’s just too Japanese and it doesn’t work, yet almost all of the current talents are staying in Niji solely for their fans. They really truly love their fans a lot and they don’t want to cause trouble to the other talents in the company, so they stay. I just hope this all dies down one day.

>>73290451
To be honest, in terms of “support”, Niji and holo are actually the same. In terms of opportunities and talent investment, holo wins. For monetary support, a small corpo is actually better than both companies. I guess that confirms it - I’ll try and apply for small corpos first. If I get rejected by them, then I’ll try indie again for a year while applying to holo. If THAT doesn’t work, I’ll succumb to niji.

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>>73291718
Why do (You) want to join niji too?
Are you 2views alright in the head? Are you masochists?

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>>73291794
Fair enough. We all agree management is garbage at least.
Good luck on your VTubing career. You seem like you are passionate and care about your fans and the profession. I will hope that you manage to stay away from black companies.

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>>73291800
Well, nostalgia and being a contrarian mostly, niji was the first vtuber company I liked back in 2019, it was the group that clicked with me. I also have been trying join them since the second audition and I think it would be pretty funny to make a heel character in that company. But in the end anything is better than the situation I am talking about money. I also understand that japanese companies are retarded and that's not limited to vtubing

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>>73292123
Zaion was essentially the contrarian heel of the branch, and look how that turned out.
I won't bother trying to talk you out of it, but consider what kind of shitshow you'd really be getting yourself into. You're gonna be abused one way or another.

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>>73292238
But zaion tried to instigate a mutiny and was executed by the firing squad for it. Her last words were "you deserve better than this"

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>>73263963
>Be a cute 0 view girl on youtube.
>Say whatever shit comes to mind because there's no one to judge you
>Someone tunes in
>They start talking to me directly in chat.
>Get nervous and have a panic attack and leave.

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>>73292346
Alright well take care of yourself

[Anonymous No.]

It startled me the first time a chuuba read one of my messages out loud. I'd probably freak out if one tried to directly interact with me

[Anonymous No.]

>>73292469
>>73292601
Chuuba and viewer really are two animals on opposite sides of the glass in a zoo

[Anonymous No.]

>chat a few times in some random 2view chuuba hovering around 50-60ccv
>catch streams fairly regularly over the next couple of weeks
>work starts getting busier and wasn't able to catch anything for a while
>get some free time, chat again
>hi anon welcome back, long time no see
>panic attack and close tab

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>>73292833
>she writes you in dms

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>>73292904
I've had this experience
Except it wasn't a cute anime girl but a grown man

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>>73282389
Read people's messages but don't say their name out loud.

[Anonymous No.]

>find a cute 1view girl
>she gifts you a sub

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>>73293925
Damn, that's an extreme case. Only similar thing I've seen is streamers betting with a viewer when doing some sort of challenge. (They win = viewer agreed to gift, they lose = streamer gifts)

[Anonymous No.]

>You will never get groomed by a cute 1view
Bros...

[Anonymous No.]

never forget, today's 1 views could be tomorrow's corpos

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>>73294010
What's the issue?

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>>73282389
I think there's no winning unfortunately. Whether the vtuber talks to me or not, I can't watch 1views because I feel too much pressure to stay forever and be active because she must be happy to have someone in chat and I don't want to make her sad by leaving. The burden stresses me out too much. I think you just need to find viewers who don't care about that and aren't bothered, and those people would probably rather you just talk normally

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>>73293860
I think this might be the best. I like when a hololive girl says my name because it feels like getting picked out of thousands of people for a moment and then I can just blend back in, but when it's a 1view it feels like they are actually talking to me in specific and will see all my responses which is somehow stressful and I feel pressured to keep the conversation going

[Anonymous No.]

all these retards falling for a low level LARPing nijisis
deflect this
>Niji pay is so shit Finana is broke and can't afford to make a new song (self-admitted)
>Doki reclaimed her Epic account stolen by Niji making them seethe in impotence.
>Mint told Niji to fuck off and is thriving as an indie, making friendly references to Doki
>Aia hinted at graduating and reactivated her PL
>Scarle reactivated her PL after getting harassed by sisters over fucking Starbucks
>Ren has been doomposting on his PL.
>Kotoka is on an infinite "mental health" break and will most likely graduate
>Millie's outfit reveal being a flop, maximum 3.8k CCV
>MK tournament flopped, couldn't even beat Korone
>Rosemi's 3D debut being the worst in Niji history
>Vox fucked off to be a white monkey on bilibili like a bitch, still gets shit views
>Elira is hiding on collabs and pre-recorded content, the sun will die before she actually streams solo.
>Luca shitshow and blatant favoritism, clear breach of contract yet still gets away with it.
>Play Button drama by Claude "you could just fucking ask" Clawmark
>Hex yab comments about killing goldfish and dumping dead people's ashes "for fun", Zaion got fired for way less.
>Uki "White people scare me" Violeta
>The whole "We love artists" psyop when in reality Niji refuses to pay artists
>Virtual Rhapsody SEA concert is a glorified L2D Karaoke
>The concert is selling so badly they are removing purchase limits to get people to buy
>AR Colors rushed out and butchered a lot of footage due to graduated livers, fucked over Rosemi and Petra.
>3D showcases being rushed out before Q4 after being stalled for 2 years, will definitely flop
>The latest niji gen still can't get to 100k subs and almost never reach more than 3 finanas of CCV
>Stocks are stagnated and will fall once the sales ban is lifted
>Niji desperately spamming Iluna and XSoleil merch to get some scraps before the Q4 report

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>>73294639
Did you even read the thread? What does it even have to do with nijisanji? Don't tell me you forgot to take your meds again.

[Anonymous No.]

So in theory, where would it be easiest to hunt for a cute 0-1 view? Youtube or twitch?

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>>73294639
Yeah some "random 2view" on 4chan has insider knowledge that contradicts what JP and EN ex-livers say about Niji being a sack of shit? I think the first few posts were real, but got hijacked by an opportunistic sister later on

[Anonymous No.]

How do you even find 0 view girls? all that I can find is troons or male vtubers, also there are 1 view girls but they already have a groomer in her chat so you gotta compete for her attention...

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>>73282389
You can and should freely talk to chat as a whole but it gets more complicated when you address individual chatters. If they're active in chat and are trying to initiate conversation, then you should talk to them, but it's probably best to let the lurkers lurk in peace.

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>>73295037
can you really hunt for anything on youtube? i'm curious.

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I used to give random red superchats to 1/2views celebrating things because I like the reactions and one of them tracked down my Twitter and tried to get me to join their Discord

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>>73296557
>Tfw no yandere 1view trying to groom me into her perfect partner

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>>73296557
of course you were invited to the discord if you were a possible whale.

[Anonymous No.]

>>73296557
I would love to surprise some 2views I enjoy with a large sum of money to see their reaction, but the shitty youtube superchat limits prevent that

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>>73263963
no but i found one with 7 viewers playing monster hunter i told her to use the hammer the went to another stream and forgot about her
went back to her channel 3 years later and found she has 53ccv now

[Anonymous No.]

>>73263963
>enter stream
>clicks dislike
>exit stream

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>>73296539
It's really difficult but I'd assume there are ways

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>>73295522
groomer competition sounds fun lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>73269585
>ywn get groomed by a qt 1view streamer
bros, I...

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Jesus reading this thread makes me sad, so many brittle souls trying to make it being cute.
I'm out

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>>73291355
>10view
Anon…. I think you mean a 2view

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>>73284108
Completely different circumstances.

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For me it'd be more that I say nothing and then get bored but feel bad knowing they'd see the 1 probably and see it dip back to 0. It's probably a frequent thing for them but I would still be hard pressed to do it.

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>>73295037
On twitch you can sort by lowest ccv

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>>73274328
Fucking HELL this is exactly my problem, everytime I see someone struggle I just fucking can't help but wanting to help, but my rational side gets in the way every time and stops me from that feeling from expanding, and because I know I'm not gonna be able to change shit so it's hopeless but than the cycle repeats and the savior-complex comes again and goes away, it's awful, I can't even hold conversations because the moment I see my name being all over the chat I feel like a nuisance, ugh.

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>>73274304
kek I know of a few that say this but the only one that I know showed some kind of actual tracking is Pippa KEK. Idk I think that's actually kinda cute.

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>>73291355
1view = 1 digit
2view = 2
3view = 3
etc.
most holos are 4 and 5view

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Happened to me somewhere around early 2021. There was this perpetually 1view girl streaming on Twitch and I had to carry the chat for a while. On her best days she had like 10 viewers and she never grew bigger than that, but there was a core group of fiveish (coming and going) fans who stuck around and caught most streams. She was active in Discord and got to know everyone and we played games together. Eventually she moved in with one of them and gradually streamed less and less until one day she vanished. I hope she's doing well.

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>>73263963
Yes. It's even worse when the 1-2 view chuuba BORES you after a few minutes

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>>73284206
You a femanon or just an anon? because If you're a guy I'm really thinking indie is the way to go.
>Niji
You already know
>Holo
They have a strong culture but even tho they have males I don't think many like 86% or 90% don't watch them and would prefer if Girls and boys don't mix.

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2-views are rough to watch if I'm in a passive consumption mentality, which is normally how I watch streams. Second monitor content or just doing chores while listening. The problem comes down to the fact that I feel bad that they throw out questions to the chat trying to get conversation going to have some kind of entertainment value beyond the gameplay and you can tell when no one is responding. A streamer should be able to hold conversations with themselves if they're any good at streaming, but you no human could do that for 3 hours straight with little to no response.
Then you get to the fact that if you do go hard and support a small chuuba, there's a chance they end up doing well and you slowly fade to being another name in the fast moving chat. They might never forget you, but they can't be preferential to old viewers because that scares away hooking in new ones. It's a little different if you also created content consistantly for them like clips or art, but otherwise you'll just be like everyone else in chat and the stream may lose it's charm.
I'm glad to have seen my one of the two chuubas I supported as a 2-view blow up, but I sometimes miss the days of hearing them respond to almost all of my chats.

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>>73274720
LMFAO bro fuck you what the fuck?

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>>73299386
>literally get cucked
>hope she's doing well
How did you grow up to be this pathetic

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>>73299532
>Then you get to the fact that if you do go hard and support a small chuuba, there's a chance they end up doing well and you slowly fade to being another name in the fast moving chat
This is true. I was the 50th subscriber to a really good channel but now it has 150'000 and it's difficult to say whether I am happy or sad about it.

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>>73299697
>literally
That's not what "getting cucked" means. It wasn't romantic either, he just needed a roommate and she was living with her mom and had been planning to move out for a while but couldn't afford full rent.

I assume she actually finally got a job outside of streaming to 5 people and just didn't have time for streaming.

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>>73278396
>Unga bunga help women to mate later.

Oh so that's why I keep giving money to my mom?

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I kinda want to matter to someone, be someone but ehhh i don't know

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>>73295174
Wait, are you really implying the 2view anon who responded to what the channel is with
>Sorry, I actually quit streaming a short while ago. I’ve got a different dilemma now (whether to join NIJISANJI EN or hololive EN)
is not totally legit?

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Holy fucking kek this thread is just one nightmare hypothetical after another.

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>>73289138
>I feel awful for guilting people into chatting with me now…
Don't be like many already told you it's nothing personal with (You) it's them, there is all kinds of people in this world don't feel bad.
> I always worry people might feel left out/upset if they make a comment and I don’t read it, that’s why I try to read them all.
This is a good mindset to have, even tho you might think "oh he this person doesn't want to answer, understandable I'll read him less" after reading this thread, a person who really tries to read everyone and be engaging is gonna get better engagement in the future because you can juggle multiple topics at once and (IMO) It's hear warming to know there is someone actively trying to make everyone feel like they're in on the convo, even tho that's impossible it encourages people (like me) to not take it personally when the vtuber doesn't read someone because there's other people there who deserve the same attention as you and the vtuber is trying her best to try and read all, very nice!

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>>73296539
absolutely you just need to use the tags, like vtuber.

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>>73263963
>nervous
>in a sort of anonymous online space
Come on anon. How do you even survive without forgetting to breathe.

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>>73299532
who?

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>>73300648
>sort of anonymous online space
Trying to interact with someone with a dozen of silent lurking freaks watching is far nervewrecking than having a normal conversation with someone new. I'd rather hold a public speech than talk to a 1view with a dead chat.

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>>73299532
This too much. I dropped a low 3view 2 years ago because she started getting relatively big shortly after joining (was closer too 80-150s at first going up to 250-300s). Keeping up with streams when you get maybe a 10%ish messages engagement ratio is too much time and effort. And that was with me constantly feeling obnoxious with my high message rate (I'm honestly engaged) and culling my rate. Even worse when you can't help but feel you're competing with people for attention. Then it feels retarded. How can you feel good about the community line that? Then being too busy with my job. Even as a NEET though, I've got better things to do.

Too many conflicting interests personally, and/or disingenuous greedy interactions from a lot of girls, so you end up with crap like this. I don't know how girls maintain the cognitive dissonance about their fans. It's to the point I can't help but see any big3views and up as sociopaths.

I really only have interest now to be a passing greychad for 4+views playing something I like and spam chat without reserve, or follow a 1/low2view knowing there's a good chance I'm going to bail at some point.

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>>73299740
Are you serious? This guy's serious. Lol.

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>>73300154
Clean your room.

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>>73284206
The social pressure to respond is the nightmare for a socially anxious person. It's jarring sometimes in smaller chats to get every message read, but it's within expectations if I've bothered to send a message at all. Being talked to or at can be okay, but where it falls apart is if the conversation needs to be two sided.
Please understand, social interactions are are things I prepare for mentally hours in advance. Put me on the spot and 98% of my brainpower goes to how to escape. The best thing you can do for people like me is leave it open ended enough to give us the out. If you really want to get to know this kind of viewer, it's incredibly hard as a 1-view, but if you have more like 100-1000 viewers, then more formal interactions like viewer submission streams or meet and greets will bring them out as they have the opportunity to prepare themselves mentally.

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If I thought I was an interesting person with lots to talk about I probably wouldn't be watching vtubers, so it's unsettling to be recognized by name. I wouldn't have a username at all if I had another way to access member streams.
And then there's this >>73274328
I know it's very dumb but I have no problem giving cash to someone I just met, sometimes to people I've never even watched because I happened across their sob story on Twitter. I wish I wasn't like this, but it makes very small vtubers a very difficult watch proposition, because they need the most.

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You think that's bad? I feel anxious just when someone in the chat quotes me for a comment I made, especially with 7tv, I immediately panic when I see the red highlight.
Though i'm really happy when someone tells me "thank you" when I answer a question, even on 4chan.

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Anyone that builds up a connection to a 1or2view and breaks it for cruel or malicious reasons deserves the death penalty.
>>73282389
Interacting with chat is good, what's the point of streaming otherwise, watch big indie channels, they always read and talk to chat.
90% of viewers don't want to talk all the time and want to just watch you and relax, 5% are regulars that talk at intervals and different points and 5% or less talk all the way through.
Remember that people have things to do, sometimes they can FULLY watch the stream, sometimes they can watch and do other stuff at the same time and sometimes they can only watch for a bit at a time and this is the same for talking too, so don't expect someone to chat once and keep talking forever in chat, they are most likely lurking, sometimes asking a question will bring them out, sometimes they are too busy. It is what it is.
The growing pains of small streamers is that you wont have a lot of people in chat ALL the time and you'll have to fill dead air often but people ARE there watching and listening assuming the ccv doesn't say 1 anyway.
And some people have a short social battery.

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>>73263963
I clicked on the stream of some girl with 3 viewers and she trauma dumped to me for like an hour. She drew me a cute picture tho

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>>73304066
You need to relax anon, assuming you don't type any deliberately incendiary retarded comments that are directly and deliberately malicious you're fine if someone replies, usually they'll just be saying lol or how they find that funny or similar.
Just avoid those political channels.
>>73304542
Marry her for a free cute menhera wife.

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I already talk to myself when I play games, should I try streaming with a PNG avatar? Though roughly 60% of my talk is complaining and saying profanities, and not in a funny way.

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>>73304597
Yeah I always respect the rules and try to be polite, I think it's just that i'm uncomfortable getting replied to outside of 4chan since i'm not really anonymous anymore.

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>>73274328
Same, I've been watching vtubers since kizuna ai but the first time I've donated was when Dizzy talked about being having a tight spending some months ago. Now I've turned on that feature that makes you confirm it the card before purchasing anything.

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>>73304751
You are a good egg
put a note on your monitor that says "I am overthinking, don't panic"

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honestly it sounds like some of you guys should just go outside and make friends

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>>73305339
Easier said than done, which is why people watch and even become chuubas in the first place.

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>>73305149
The ex-tsunderia manager? You gave her Tyrone condom money

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>>73284206
Hell I get embarrassed when I follow and the chuuba says my fucking name, I just want to disappear and rarely comment.

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>>73305339
In our current society the majority of people meet online before meeting irl. (outside of their workplace)

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>>73305339
Most people outside barely like or know about video games and anime, let alone actually have good or at least interesting taste. this is the only access most anyone will have. And ackshually i do go outside a bit fucking
gaslighting niiger

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>>73305388
Qrd?

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>>73305477
Kek, I have the same problem and that's why I only give follows when the streamer is offline, and hopefully they don't have a chatbot announcing every follows and subs like
>WOOOOOOOW ShyIntrovert69 JUST FOLLOWED THE CHANNEL <3 THANK YOUUUUU <3 EVERYONE SAY HI TO THEM!!!!!!!! ^o^

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>>73305388
Yeah the girl failure.

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>>73305339
You first, but don't come back

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>>73305339
I do go outside and have friends, people can be shy and still functional.

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>>73305477
>>73305899
Literally me. I hate the pointless worthless attention.

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>>73298894
Different circumstances but same results. Sorry that you don't have a streamer lusting after you anon but I personally just don't find her attractive and wish she'd stop being so clingy.

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>>73305339
This has been said since /b/ and never works. The lessons learned by the anxious and introverted is that interaction isn't enjoyable.

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>>73299055
It especially sucks when you help them out with a donation and then they're so grateful and say they'll work even harder...only to take month long breaks before returning, if they ever do.

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>>73295037
>>73296539
Remember to filter by 'Live'

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%23envtuber

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>>73295037
Good luck anon because most of them are streaming in another language, are trannies, are busy interacting mostly with the twitch side or are just straight up braindead. If a girl is only a 2view and she doesn't have a shitty disgusting model then something is obviously wrong with her.

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>>73306380
Based what languages, English speakers are the Indians of the online anime girl community

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>>73296539
1. visit youtube.com
2. enter "vtuber" in the search box then hit enter
3. click filter at the top right, then pick sort by "view count"
4. click filter again, then pick "live"
5. scroll to the bottom, that's where you find the 0views

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>>73306606
Adding to this, check their descriptions to see if they have twitch channels. They might be streaming on both platforms, with each showing a different chat feed. The 0 view you found might have a 100 people over on twitch, so be sure to check as to not waste time

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>>73305790
most people on this website also have terrible taste in anime and videogames so im not sure i see your point

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>>73306211
Dude, how mich do you donate that they can afford to take such long breaks?

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>>73306848
Maybe he's dollamaxxing by donating to argie chuubas

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>>73306211
Of 0-1 views, I'd say 40% are convinced they can make a job of it when they start, only to realize they can't.

Another 40% treat it as an expensive and time consuming hobby, despite their normal working schedule and end up overwhelmed by the commitment

Finally, 20% are neets or those otherwise without responsibilities that somehow have enough money (or skill) to get a model and assets

These final 20% are the ones you should keep an eye out for

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>>73306380
>streaming in another language
Skill issue.

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>>73306811
other key word was interesting, e.g. not everyone is a frierentard or fromfag or leagueshitter

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>>73307196
most people here dont have particularly interesting taste either, unless liking lesser known dogshit makes that dogshit more interesting to you

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>>73305842
He thinks she's fucked up, and he inflicts his fetish on her because she made a joke once.
That's literally it.

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>>73307262
This is off-topic, but I'd much rather hear about why some dogshit priduct really matters to you, wether it's because of nostalgic moments you want to relive from your past, feeds into your personal issues, or how it hits niches you really like but never see. Yes, we all know there's production value, cinamatography, art style, etc that go into a final product that can hurt the overall value of it, but I'm not here to discuss or argue that shit because there are people much more qualified than you or I to break it down.

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>>73307150
I think Midas said on her latest video that she's been at it for 2 whole years, the grind is massive and people really think they are special that will rise to stardom effortlessly like Gura.

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>>73306606
I'm not sure I like what I'm finding.

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>>73307731
so your stance is that you dont think frieren or fromsoft games connect with people on an emotional/personal level?
(i'm not touching league because i agree league is total ass and i dont want to talk to its fans[t. 3k hours])

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>>73307262
It does, you only go dig up for niche things when you are obsessed with your hobby, since the entry level stuff doesn't scratch your itch anymore, and these people have more interesting opinions about it.

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>>73307812
Damn, a woman who likes men? No fucking way bro.

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>>73307812
>homoshit
>ugly fuck ugly as sin model
LMAO groomerbros on sewersite watch

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>>73300781
Who do you think?
I never made the threads, but followed them from the halfway point if their old life to the end. I was never at every single stream but I was there often and talked in chat, submitted questions, played games with them, cheered them on, and at the end it felt nice to hear them say that we, the travelers, helped them regain some of their self confidence over their lifespan.
I 100% believe what they said at graduation because the beans only got spilled in the discord a little while after, so no one would have been able to follow at the time they wrote their goodbyes.

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>>73307855
I think they might, but I feel like most of the people who like those things like them casually. When I say that, I mean they only care about FotM and don't actually give a shit about the content. I like Frieren personally, but I also have gone 'deeper' into that genre because it's not about the FotM. It ends up in really short conversations about the topic. I promise you that I could offer most of the people who say they love Frieren the older version of Kino's Journey and they would snuff it because what they like about Frieren is its popularity.

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>>73296557
I donated $100 to a vtuber and she thanked me on twitter. I never spoke in her chat, but she just @ me on twitter because my twitter is the same as my twitch name. I wonder how she knew it was me and not someone with the same name as me.

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>>73309815
Did you follow her on twitter?
Did your friends on Twitter follow her too?

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>>73309932
I rarely use twitter and when i do i just use it to look at japanese artists pictures. I never followed her. I dont even think i followed after she thanked me.

[Anonymous No.]

ITT: retards simping for a nijisister larper. The consistent repeating of many doxxsister talking points makes "her" glow as the sun

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>>73306848
Not even that much but it's happened enough times that I stopped doing it. Sorry other small vtubers but grifting bitches have made most of us wary of supporting you guys unless you can show you're serious about hitting the grind hard. Nothing is free or easy in life. Being a streamer isn't a free pass to not work. If you don't like it then just settle and be a housewife to some ugly guy who can hold down a job.

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>>73306664
Good advice. I also want to add that some 1views are actually AI/bot that streaming like hundred hours. They usually read news.

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I avoid donating more then $20 or so when it comes to on stream donos.
I prefer to lurk on Throne, its a bit harder to forget about someone when they buy you $80 earring for your birthday that you wear regularly.

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>>73313089
Based. i usually just buy as much as i can when i see she has a throne and i like her content. Buying on special occasions is smart.

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>>73313629
Yeah I got donowalled a couple times by 2 views so it put me off of cash donations.

I don't expect chuubas to fuck me for a dono but I time it to where there isn't attention focused on a game or anything so I at least expect them to read my name and message, instead of a copy and paste "Thanks for the dono anon."

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>>73263963
every time

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>>73263963
Just be nice anon. You aren't going to be forced into marriage by interacting a little.

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>>73306664
Allowing streamers to stream on both Twitch and YouTube at the same time was the worst fucking decision from an audience perspective. Since there isn't a unified chat, conversations always seem disjointed as the streamer is bouncing between the two. Don't get greedy, Just stick to one streaming service and focus all your attention on that so you aren't giving a half assed experience to your audience.

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>>73319164
Wouldn't there be ab extension to unite them? Seems like an obvious thing to do

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>>73319164
>>73319466
Ye ive seen it on twitch. It usually says [youtube] before the persons name or something like that.

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>>73290346
Kek. This ironically is a perfect image, shows that different people expect different things from the streamer.

Some people want the flirty GFE with lots of back and forth.

Some people tune in just so they have background noise like the radio. No Interaction needed.

Then there is everyone in between.

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>>73263963
this is why i hate twitch, its viewable participants and also the day youtube integrated the same shit.

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>>73263963
I am my 2view oshi's first viewer ever
I am also the first one she blocked

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>>73320659
Lmao. Imagine calling out viewers from the view list. If i was lurking and someone called me out id report their channel just for the fuck of it.

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>>73321159
happened to me once. god, it was awful. i was working that day

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>>73320722
Okay anon which fun words did you call her?

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>>73306158
Who is this chuuba I want a clingy streamer

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>>73282389
When you have a low viewer count and you address viewers directly it’s like you are creating an obligation for them to stay and be active. When in reality they just wanted to watch you out of curiosity and to have the freedom to leave whenever they want without feeling bad.

Think of it as like interacting with any other person. You don’t want others to feel like they have to commit if they want to interact with you by being clingy or spotlighting them. Some might appreciate it but most people watching small streamers won’t.

Imo it’s best to address chat as generically as possible. Like ‘You guys’ or something. That’s probably a part of why many corporate VTubers have names for their viewers like Ruffians, Saplings, etc. You make individual viewers feel included in a community and like you are speaking to them without putting any sort of obligation on them as an individual. Of course if someone donates to you or gets a superchat then you want to address them by name and thank them but otherwise just treat viewers generically.

In the end though it’s up to feeling. People are different. The viewerbase you cultivate can be different. This is just what I think is most reasonable as someone who tends to avoid 1views out of anxiety.

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>>73307812
bitch looks like a Troll

[Anonymous No.]

God I wish Froggy would grapefruit me...

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>>73263963
No, but it happened to me back in 2011 with Dota streamers. Streaming was pretty new back then.

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>>73268499
Anon you and your 1view are getting married whether you want it or not

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I'd understand if it was VC but damn dude.

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>>73300157
its so sad they all fell hook line and sinker for the LARP, no 2 view is getting an interview if they aren't even streaming anymore and they contradict themselves multiple times. Fucking retards the lot of them.