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Post your predictions for the rest of this wild ride.

>> No.68610864

Scarle will "graduate" because Aster bitched and moaned about the leaks, and since Luca is protected class, they're gonna need someone else to blame.

>> No.68611020

Neurosama will graduate and be replaced with a bishounen character.

>> No.68611147

By end of February:
at least one more liver will announce graduation.
By July:
at the current rate of drama, if the leaks keep happening and the yacht keeps on taking on water at least 5 more graduations/terminations will be announced and happen
By EOY:
EN branch dissolved, with any remaining member getting the NIJI ID treatment. At least half of all current EN livers will be out of Niji for good.

>> No.68611151

Screenshot of RL Fuwawa will be caught on Tinder and /vt/ will have a meltdown

>> No.68611213
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68611213

>1 new Hololive gen
It will do good, but won't exceed expecations.
>Nijisanji graduations will continue until September
>3 new wave of Nijis
The company won't go down, but it will enter stagnation mode. It's fan culture will shift more and more towards brand loyalty, rather than loyalty towards the talent.
>Phase Connect
Will catch up to Nijisanji as a viable career opportunity for indies.
>Idol Corp
Will continue it's slow incline
>Kiwawa
Will continue to be the cutesexiest streamer in the world

>> No.68611225

at least one more niji will be terminated Zaion/Selen style
Vivi will decline to renew her contract
one of the niji sexpests will rape another liver live on stream and face no repercussions

>> No.68611255

>>68610659
Nijisanji cuts their loses and abandons the EN market... again. Casuing a sudden talent flood into the small corpos boosting their numbers creating the Golden Age of EN Small Corps.

For the most part JPsanji is far to strong to actually take serious damage in Japan.

>> No.68611288

>>68610659
a nijiEN girl will be taking maternal leave

>> No.68611295

>>68610864
*sigh* still no proof

>> No.68611303

pomu's outer heaven

>> No.68611349

>>68611255
>all the trash in Niji flood to small corpo
lol

>> No.68611637

Cover will hire a bunch of /asp/ies for hololive and stars. They'll wind up being massive hits who eclipse the rest

>> No.68611707

A Myth graduation

>> No.68611800

>>68610659
NijiEN merges with Niji. Kotoka and Meloco immediately get 3D.

>> No.68611823

>>68611707
I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet. The money must be good.

>> No.68611887

i already see goldmansacs on nijisanji posts. only a matter of time before we have nwo antichrist tubers who tell you to kill terfs and commit to terrorist acts

>> No.68611942

>>68610659
80% of NijiEN livers are culled and reabsorbed into proper Nijisanji
VSPO EN launches to target MOBA audience.
HoloEN4 followed by HoloID4 debut in tandem. EN4 to focus on EU times. ID to lean more towards English speaking content (ie more seachinks).
No new Holo JP debut.
Disney to debut their own vtubers in partnership with Hasbro for design and merchandise(Codename Varvie)
Previous Holofes will be offered in Netflix.
Amazon to buy smaller vtuber companies to be rebranded under mega-indie umbrella brand, they will host concerts under Amazon Prime offering.
Sora is graduating in Q3 2024.
Hololive Gen 4 full collab will happen this year.

>> No.68611943

>>68611707
It'll be Gura but she won't be graduated. She'll be fired.
During a live event she'll get into a big argument with Kiara or Ame and she'll snap at them with something like "YOU CUNTS ARE IN MY SHADOW SO ACT LIKE IT!"
After which Cover will have to fire her.

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68611946

Vtuber companies (especially Japanese ones) will get off their high horse and realize they aren't hot shit without their front facing talents.
If they don't they'll exit the market. Sucks to be a talent but from over here it's fun to watch, like a car crash on the side of the road as you drive by.

>> No.68611996

>>68610659
There will be some graduation in hololive screencap this.

>> No.68612014

>>68610659
Nijisanji will be fine

>> No.68612052
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68612052

Their incline will shock you

>> No.68612206

Hololive nothing changes
Nijisanji keep declining both in EN and JP
Vshojo will get 3-4 additional members, ironmouse survives 2024, maybe melody goes into hibernation.
Phase keep growing and overtake niji for number 2 spot on YouTube (if they haven't already)
Idol will keep supporting genocide and apartheid and grow j2kkn

>> No.68612209

>>68610659
Huge plot twist with Doki. Outed as a bully, never attempted suicide, lied about everything, and sued into the ground by Niji.
The darkest timeline

>> No.68612255

nijien won't completely implode or be dissolved but there will be a steady trickle of graduations with maybe one or two more terminations as well
if we're talking industry-wide then I'd expect at least one holoen graduation as well though on less controversial terms, phase essentially taking niji's place as the EN #2 culturally if not necessarily financially, and maybe this is just wishful thinking but more and more indies will realize the corpo life isn't worth it in the vast majority of instances (if they weren't already piecing that together from last year's drama)

>> No.68612340

Kurosanji will force a scarle aster off collab in Japan. Where aster will attempt or succeed onto scarle. Scarle has a meltdown on stream so kurosanji will give her the Selene and Zion treatment where they admit aster did it but blame scarle for seducing him.

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>>68610659
>at least one holoen graduation
>at most one holojp graduation
>new decently succesful jp and en gens and not-so-successful id gen
>the concept of male chuubas ceases to exist
>nijien is dissolved, riku is arrested, anycolor goes bankrupt and all of its assets are bought by cover
>waves of big name companies beg cover to collaborate, Hololive continues its global expansion and asserts dominance as the strongest and eventually the only chuuba agency

>> No.68612840

Possibly another graduation in March if there's a waiting list.
I'm sure few livers are trying to get out of contract right now, but they might/probably won't be given that.

>> No.68613172

>>68610659
One of the big male NijiEN livers leaves on such shitty terms the fangirls are forced to finally address company's corruption and depart for new places, giving struggling male corpos like FSP and Holostars a boost to a certain extent.

>> No.68613388

The next big vtuber market will be jamaica.

>> No.68613495

>>68612206
>Hololive nothing changes
There will be something completely out of left-field that nobody sees coming, everyone is shocked by, but does no long-term damage to the company. there always is.

>> No.68613575

>>68613388
Snow will make a comeback as the first real gangster vtuber and take the market by storm

>> No.68613611

>>68610659
There will be an economic collapse approaching the election and tons of tech companies will start mass-firings and layoffs, including vtuber companies.

>> No.68613634

I see a new holostarsjp gen that gets literal 2view numbers outside of big multi-agency collabs. I got nothing against the JPs, it just seems kind of depressing over there.
>>68613575
I would watch.

>> No.68613637

>>68610659
World War 3

>> No.68614301

Holoearth gets a proper release and its a bore.

>> No.68614352

>>68614301
Star Citizen is gonna come out sooner than Holoearth

>> No.68614792

>>68610659
A 2.0 model redesign in Myth
Vague hints of a redesign in Promise
HoloPro guests at the EN 3D summer concert
HoloEN puts on a Minecraft tournament in the fall
EN4 and the next Holostars EN gen in the winter

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68614824

5th fes is going to be peak

>> No.68614974

Kson Hololive Collab this year.

>> No.68614982

>>68614824
I'm so fucking happy that I'll get to see it in person

>> No.68615450

Holo ID Gen 4 has a former Niji member in it
Niji merges EN branch into JP
CCP doxes Niji China branch
Vshojo gains 4 members spread out throughout the year
Dokibird stays indie
VT hates a new Hololive member after they do something insignificant

>> No.68615546

>>68611151
LOL sex pest fww. MMC just wants to stream but Fww brings in a BBC.

>> No.68615863

>>68612340
God why do I see this happening VIVIDLY. I don't even watch Scarle

>> No.68615958

>>68611303
>Pomu is studying in Japan to start her own idol corp
I believe it

>> No.68616019

>>68611943
All live events are pre recorded now.

>> No.68616061

>>68613575
A lucky boom boom down

>> No.68616410

>>68610659
HoloEN1 gets their 3D models updated. Advent gets 3Ds and very likely new gen debuts for JP, ID, and EN. Release date+playable beta for HoloEarth (for the actual game component of that metaverse).
>Niji
I only follow Toko and Ange, so no comment. Before it would have been just Luxiem 3Ds. Now, we'll probably see at least Luxiem and Ethyria given how each group has been responding. Someone mentioned more waves, very likely. Haven't really paid attention to the non-monetary aspects of joining Niji before this drama, but now I have to lower my expectations. Limiting an applicant's non-Niji online footprint and the other party accepting requires a very specific type of person. A VTA system, unironically, would increase the surface-level "quality".
>PC
I'm interested to see where Phase goes with the JP branch. Their sub numbers are bad, but it represents PC's attempt in properly expanding into JP. Their current performance is probably what Holo expected from when it debuted it's ID and EN branches. Happy for berylschizo.
>Idol
ES branch finally.
>Isegye
Will see growth, but fracturing of fan base due to unfortunately being originally Twitch, but having to adapt to both YouTube and AfreecaTV as it tries to figure out how to properly transition (or Twitch somehow becomes a non-issue).
>Elsewhere
Hopefully EU does something. Doesn't even need a corpo, just a strong associated streaming group.

>> No.68616678

>>68610659
Anycolor will pull out of the international market entirely due to a mixture of mass graduations, declining stock, and negative reputation. Remaining livers are quietly merged with the main branch. The talents lucky/smart enough to jump ship either go indie, get swiped up by another corp looking to fill the power vacuum, or retire from streaming altogether.

>> No.68616770

Hololive will release a gacha game to capitalize on the fact that a decent amount of their talent plays gacha games on stream. This will be used a way to gauge the demand for offical Hololive games.
NijiEN will continue to decline. EN will survive 2024 in a dying state. Will eventually be absorbed into the JP branch in 2025.

>> No.68617284

At least 5 more nijiens graduate or are terminated by end of the year

>> No.68617557

>>68610659
:Lots of good streams and fun times from my favourite, and some of my future favourite, vtubers!

>> No.68617601

>>68611020
Hmm, a shota AI might have legs.

>> No.68617678

>>68610659
Conclusive evidence of Fuwamoco incest. Canadian law will side with them, but the streams will be even easier to masturbate to.

>> No.68618002

>>68610659
For Hololive, we'll get at least one new gen this year, probably JP7, and also likely to get the next ID gen 4. EN4 will be cooking but probably not come this year. Advent will continue to do well in the meantime.

Holoearth will progress and there will probably a playable beta version for the video game portion. Online concerts and events will gradually be shifted into Holoearth, though hard to tell if it's on the table for this year.

Once Holoearth is completed, big capex spending will slow, and Yagoo will finally start giving the shareholders some dividends.

As for Niji, they will continue to be wracked by scandals and graduations. Damaging leaks will continue as the EN branch turns in on itself. At least two other big stars in the EN branch will graduate this year. and middle-tier Livers will continue trickling out. Bunker mentality will set in and attacks on ex-Livers who remain present on the internet will grow more vicious, even those who ostensibly graduated on good terms.

My expectation is that sometime in late 2024 or the first half of 2025, Nijisanji will give up on Niji EN and fold the branch into JP. The clique socipaths who had been chasing Livers out of the company will leave almost immediately, because they will have no management to leverage to help them hurt people anymore.

>> No.68618073

>>68618002
Almost forgot to add, I think we will see at least one person in HoloEN graduate this year (on good terms, with no controversy).

>> No.68618193

the rise of vallure
total coomer domination

>> No.68618223

>>68611213
>Will catch up to Nijisanji as a viable career opportunity for indies.
Female indies anon. The male market is still ripe for picking
>MALES REEE
They are proven to generate money now anon, deal with it

>> No.68618306

>>68610659
NijiEN will dissolve by end of year, at least a third of the remaining talents will have graduated or terminated by then
V'Allure will either a) crash and burn or b) toil away in obscurity
Phase will debut a second JP wave but nothing for EN
VShojo will get, at most, three new talents and only one at most will be ex-Niji
Holo will debut a new ID gen
For once in our goddamn lives a small corpo will not be outed as a cabal of abusers and sexpests

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>>68610659
>NijiEN announces their disbandment by 2025. They will try and release one more wave against all odds but it'll fail to gain any traction as a product of the current yab. At least 4 former nijis will move to Vwhorejo
>Two holos will graduate, but neither will be from EN or ID. Holo ID4, EN5 and Armis 2 releases.
>PhaseJP will be successful enough to differentiate themselves from the mother branch
>Idol, Nanashi and P.Kawaii will job, but thrive under their own merits.
>KAF going the flesh route triggers the downfall of Kamitsubaki studio as everyone else either follows suite or ditch the group to do their own thing.
>Wactor's CEO receive charges for his black company shenanigans from last year and is imprisoned.

>> No.68618451

>>68615450
>VT hates a new Hololive member after they do something insignificant
Come on, that's just the free space on the bingo board

>> No.68618701
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68618701

Phase JP will skyrocket to the point that Hololive takes notice, and we'll somehow get a cross-corpo collab with Pekora and Clara and Pippa

>> No.68619023

>>68610659
>Merryweather's ASTRALINE has a second generation, featuring a former Niji talent as the big get. Either Kyo or Ver
>Idol ES is formed and takes Twitch by storm, EN Gen 3's debut is overshadowed due to Yuko Yurei's departure
>Phase will ape the "VTA" system by Nijisanji to have a risk/reward recruitment system for it's Japanese hires. Phase EU is also considered to corner another market. Scottish Hag and Swedish Loli are the front-runners
>Vshojo brings in Mika with a ditzy teacher gimmick. They also bring in Ninaninin as Loli student for the school gimmick pairing
>Girls FC folds due to Bat's seething
>NijiEN see's the loss of at least another three members, but it sees a mini revival via an unlikely hire
>NijiJP obtain a sponsorship with deal with a game that nobody /here/ gives a fuck about
>HoloStars has another generation, themed around international espionage. You will wear the tech wear and like it
>Hololive EN's core base continues to be inactive, but showcasing often at events
>Hololive will see a departure of a talent due to desires to be a mother

>> No.68619416

My Predictions:
Hololive EN: No new EN debuts, slight incline
Nijisanji EN: More graduations, slight decline for remaining members, two more terminations
Phase Connect: Slight incline, 2023 was their breakout year, this is near their ceiling
Idol: Slight decline, despite drama people will watch them
V4Mirai: massive incline spurred on by braves backing and collaborations
Globie: slight incline, talents are not good enough
Myholotv: might dissolve this year, Liliana and Karot are hardly genmates, company doesn't do anything
Kawaii: stagnation, gen 4 slight incline, kawaii days are over
Prism: slight incline, Jun moderate incline
First Stage Production (avallum): moderate incline, high potential due to being only en males besides nijisanji en
Pixel Link: slight growth, corpo plagued with cute but boring girls and known whores in a cute company
Vreverie: moderate decline, more graduations, debuts will be cut or cancelled
V&U: moderate decline due to more competition, their girls are too plain
Bond: moderate decline, more graduations, unserious company
Eien: moderate incline as the girls compete with riifu and their lewd talents post more
Nexstage Project: stagnation, they can't get any lower
Vshojo: they are basically indies, I guess they'll slightly incline with all their new members

Did I forget anyone?

>> No.68619442

Hololive
>Graduations
Ollie. More and more of what she likes doing is less and less successful.
>Debuts
EN debuts late into the year. ID is either very soon or won't happen for a long while, possibly because Cover is trying to find a way to make them not dependent on the EN audience. Dev_is2 is also probably soon. I don't think JP7 is happening for a long, long time. I know that many have been thinking that Cover will push the button on launching a new overseas branch, but I don't think it'll happen. HoloKR or HoloTW would've happened by now if Cover thought launching a branch there was worth it. The best chances are on potential branches like HoloES or HoloEU, but an EU audience could just be gathered with more advertising and streaming during better hours for them, likely by an EN gen. Even though Spanish is the next biggest language for a vtuber audience, I don't think it's big enough for Cover to go for.
>Other Big News
An NA 3D studio. Now that there's three gens, there's probably enough of a profit to be made with building a smaller 3D studio in NA. 11 of the 15 members would be able to make use of it, and it'd be easier for future 3D debuts of future gens.
A few big collabs. Maybe Fortnite. Probably a few notable gachas.
A big change in policy that will be controversial, but will ultimately be beneficial.

Holostars
>Debuts
Going to say that the past will predict the future and HomoEN4 will debut 6 months after HomoEN3 did. Also going to say that HomoJP5 will be debuted as a last-ditch effort to make them successful. Teased after 5th fes, advertised harder than any other gen ever has been.
>Graduations
Maybe one. Feel like someone will want to. Not like I'd know who.

Nijisanji
>Debuts
Standard JP debuts. Only one EN wave. From then on, maybe a few single debuts, but even that seems unlikely to me.
>Graduations
More ex-ID graduations, as usual. Probably some smaller JPs and maybe a big JP graduation. Most likely many EN graduations from those wanting to GTFO.
>Other Big News
Loss of Koshien being a solely Niji event. Merging of EN into JP. Results in an ex-ID style graduation relay for a lot of the now ex-EN members. Kotoka and Meloco are unaffected.

Phase Connect
>Debuts
Maybe more invaders or something. Probably not a fourth gen for a long while.
>Graduations
Pippa.

>> No.68619441

>>68618412
What happens to Mumei when the thoughts are peaceful?

>> No.68619510

Incoming wave of all sorts of indies talking about how they attempted suicide and getting extra views attention and money. It will be the spring of "I tried to kill myself".

>> No.68619550

Mel suicide attempt into fanbox and reincarnation

>> No.68619573

>>68619442
>An NA 3D studio
Never happening.
They'd still need to fly and shit for it. NA is simply too big and they'd need to hire a whole staff for that studio.
It would just be a huge money sink and too arms length for them to manage effectively

>> No.68619676

>>68619416
Please read my post, I spent some time remembering all your irrelevant companies, fuck

>> No.68619917

>>68611213
>The company won't go down, but it will enter stagnation mode.
There's a reason that even early last year people were saying NijiEN would likely die soon. It's been in stagnation mode since the start of last year.

>> No.68621634

>>68610659
>Hololive
New EN and ID gens debut
>Holostars
It seems that they wanted to pump out as many homos as possible so they could collab with each other, therefore there may not be a new gen debut this year. Current talents will get 3D.
>NijiEN
They'll definitely debut at least 1 new wave that will unperform by all possible metrics. I can see 2-4 current talents leaving which will include Vox. He's gonna get into VShojo because Mysta and Nina are will vouch for him. Why would he leave? Since niji talents get scraps from merch, best they can do is farm memberships and superchats, and that worked fine for him when he was doing coomer content, but if he wants to do more tame content and maintain good money flow, he'll need to get good merch cut which niji doesn't offer.
>First Stage Product
A literal who corpo that just debuted their first EN male group. They're getting around half of StarsEN numbers, which is a lot for a group that no one knows anything about. So, the next logical move for them is to either step up their homo game and debut more males to grab more of niji/stars audience or try their luck with girls.
>VShojo
Will definitely add 2-4 new members. New talents will most likely be ex-niji, but I can seem them pouching someone like Bettel because that dude would definitely fair better as a streamer in VSJ, and he doesn't really seem to be that much into idol activities.
>VSPO
EN gen is coming because they held auditions. The only reason they wouldn't debut EN girls this year is if something went terribly wrong, which is not very likely.
>Other corpos
The usual stuff: some new gens, random drama, maybe a small fan meet/concert for Phase Connect or IdolEN.

>> No.68621711

>>68610659
some big corpo chuuba is gonna an hero this year
at this point I'd bet good money on it

>> No.68621814

>>68617601
Anny's AI vibrator
Oh, wait, that's Vedal

>> No.68621825

>>68611213
>It's fan culture will shift more and more towards brand loyalty, rather than loyalty towards the talent.
but it's already like that

>> No.68621950

>>68610659
NijiEN will merge with the rest of niji, and the total niji debuts will lessen as they no longer have vta and people arent going to apply, leading to a slow bleed for the company and its eventual collapse. The shareholders will dump it once the EN merge happens, and Riku will also dip out.

>> No.68622013

>>68611303
She'll turn Vshojo(youtube branch) into an idolfag's dream

>> No.68622345

>>68610659
Everything burns

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>>68611943
Gura would never say that. I think she actually has low self-steem... and you know... maybe she has troubles with some symptoms of depression and/or alcoholism...
:c

>> No.68624577

>>68621825
More like that

>> No.68625331

>>68619416
>V4mirai
Well remember brave has been recruiting for vspoen for like 6 months at this point so they're coming.
>Eien
I'm worried that they're cursed to have crazy chicks removing themselves every single freaking group
>Pixel
I think they probably get taken over by another group like how idol is soon to be bought out.

>> No.68625432

>>68610659
>Dissolution of NijiEN
>A Myth member graduates, not because of any drama but because they want to pursue a different career
>Phase JP's popularity increases
>Apple's headset inspires other companies to improve on their AR/VR/XR tech and VR concerts for Hololive and whoever will be more common (and vtubers aside, we'll be seeing more glassholes wearing these headsets outside)
>Twitch dies, its vtubers moving to Youtube and other platforms
>Live2D falls out of favor while 3D tech gets better, Hololive, Nijisanji and some big corpos will stick with Live2D for a while
Not gonna go with Niji graduations/terminations because that's low hanging fruit

>> No.68627754

No more drama, this will make people turn over a new leaf.

>> No.68628353

>>68611942
>Amazon to buy smaller vtuber companies to be rebranded under mega-indie umbrella brand, they will host concerts under Amazon Prime offering.
It would be more easy just buying mythic and poaching asmondbald from yisney

>inb4 wtf
asmondbald manages myth (the hole where fillian, nyaners and bei are now) BUT he's under payroll from other streamer conglomerate owned by the mouse

>> No.68628521

>>68619573
Exactly. More likely to have more members move to Japan than any investment in stuff outside it. MAYBE in Indonesia if they can do it for cheap since everyone lives in the same city but this is a longshot.

>> No.68629023

>>68628521
I could see Reine making that happen.
But even then it wouldn't be worth it.

>> No.68629122

>>68610659
holointern here
the announcement at holofes is holo earth VR sex
there will be booths where you can you can experience sex in VR with your oshi while a cute holostaff(male) is blowing you irl.

>> No.68630961

>>68629023
Why Reine?

>> No.68632879

>>68621950
anon vta is literally active and just had two auditions last month

>> No.68633477

>>68618412
>>KAF going the flesh route triggers the downfall of Kamitsubaki studio as everyone else either follows suite or ditch the group to do their own thing.
Oh I typed this without realizing it has already begun, sort of.
https://twitter.com/kamitsubaki_jp/status/1752648147430703171

>> No.68635039

>>68630961
Her mom is high up in the corporate scene. She is basically a princess in terms of power/wealth

>> No.68635231

>>68618412
>phaseniggers will continue using holo reaction images in their garbo posts

>> No.68635693

>>68619442
I could see a NA based 3D studio in small scale, but through a third party deal rather than something owned by Cover.

>> No.68637286

>>68610659
> Hololive
Another holomem graduate
Pekomiko become micomet vs pekomarine
> Nijisanji
4/6 JP member won't sign another contract then they will graduate
> Vshojou
War between ex niji vs old vshojou member

>> No.68637321

>>68610659
Hololive will recline from a major yab and Holostars will rise from the ashes.

>> No.68638303

That fat puerto rican goes full vtuber,
joins vshojo

>> No.68640125

Sony is going to remember that prism exists and shot them down.

>> No.68643293

>>68640125
Don’t jinx it

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