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/#/ numbers thread Anonymous Sat Jul 17 04:45:30 2021 No.6661274 [Reply] [Original]

DING DONG VNUMA IS DEAD

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>>6619167

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 04:46:32 2021 No.6661288 File: 36 KB, 1469x150, sasuga suisei.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 04:48:05 2021 No.6661324 https://youtu.be/jR5wPTxruZg tik tok holokeks 200k draft, 500k finals

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 04:48:06 2021 No.6661326 15k in the Nijibaseball draft waiting room wtih 15 mins left. I'm guessing 120k peak, 20k more than last year.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 04:50:31 2021 No.6661364 >>6661274 Babiniku Peko is that high? how?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 04:50:53 2021 No.6661369 >>6661324 I fucking kneel

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 04:57:24 2021 No.6661487 So where are we going to get numbers now?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 04:58:11 2021 No.6661503 >>6661364 did you even see Mari's 3d stream

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 04:59:05 2021 No.6661520 >>6661364 If you mean Tomari, it was a 200k subs countdown.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:00:15 2021 No.6661545

>>6661487
Combination of Playboard and Holostats I guess. Gotta pray that Playboard doesn't glitch during big Niji streams (it glitched the past 3 times IIRC) and not count them. There's a twitter channel that keeps track of Niji numbers too, but I heard it's getting shut down soon so idk.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:00:48 2021 No.6661564 >>6661364 Maximum GFE experience. Better than most female chuuba. Prove once again that Men are better at everything

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:01:51 2021 No.6661590 File: 56 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6661274 Okay, throw me some numbers

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:06:58 2021 No.6661698 what was nijis las baseball tournament numbers?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:09:10 2021 No.6661746 Nijibaseball draft stream starting at 80k before the 10 minute mark. 120k seems inevitable once the draft actually starts.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:09:49 2021 No.6661763 >doing it in official channel instead of Maimoto's channel >get 110k less viewers Anycolor is fucking retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:10:03 2021 No.6661768 >>6661564 this

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:10:07 2021 No.6661771 >>6661326 Is 100k the peak for the drafts last year?!?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:10:52 2021 No.6661788 >>6661763 >>6661746 Thread doko? I want to discuss the draft

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:11:13 2021 No.6661796 >>6661763 so the fucking usual. So much potential ruined by retardation

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:11:53 2021 No.6661808 >>6661788 is a numbers threads anon go to niji thread if its still alive.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:13:09 2021 No.6661834 >>6661788 people are discussing it in the nijisanji en thread strangely

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:13:54 2021 No.6661852

>>6661763
>>6661796
Stop being retarded. If I'm not wrong, this was the draft stream last year. It peaked at 105k. 192k was the grand finals.

https://playboard.co/en/video/beqq32QdwhE

They're already at 90k 13 mins into the stream. It will be at least 120k at this rate.

>>6661771
https://playboard.co/en/video/beqq32QdwhE
105k last year.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:13:54 2021 No.6661853 >>6661834 not like they have anything else to discuss that thread resistance to be njijien world general is foolish.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:17:43 2021 No.6661943 >>6661890 That's was the grand finals. Today is only the draft. They're going to have a 3 week training session after this stream.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:18:27 2021 No.6661960 >>6661852 Oh okay. They still need to host the final on Maimoto's channel though. No one want to watch shits on official channel. Just look at Hololive's weekly game program for example.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:23:33 2021 No.6662087 >>6661960 >Just look at Hololive's weekly game program for example. It's just bad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:24:30 2021 No.6662115 >>6662087 Better than Levergacha

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:25:24 2021 No.6662133 >>6661852 they are 111k now this will surpass 200k in the finals

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:26:49 2021 No.6662159

At 113k now after the draft begins.

>>6661960
>No one want to watch shits on official channel.
This is just plain false. Official channel streams easily get 100k+ viewers. Look at Niji's mahjong tournaments, MK tournaments, and New year streams. The same applies to Holo's new year streams.

>Just look at Hololive's weekly game program for example.
People don't watch Maruyama because it's not good, not because it's on the official channel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:27:03 2021 No.6662164 >>6662115 lol B-grade is superior anyway

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:28:15 2021 No.6662186 What's the paid sponsorship anyway?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:29:34 2021 No.6662220 >>6662186 https://www.konami.com/pawa/2020/ The baseball game they're playing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:31:09 2021 No.6662254 >>6662159 > Official channel streams easily get 100k+ viewer >People don't watch Maruyama because it's not good almost all aruyama are above 100k tough.That is still a dumb choice

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:33:42 2021 No.6662310 >>6662254 Even jp anons have admitted that they have no interest in that program. Not sure why you keep trying to protect it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:33:44 2021 No.6662311 >>6662159 It's 123k now

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:36:01 2021 No.6662368

>>6662254
I'm talking about live viewers. Maruyama gets around 4-10k depending on who the guest is. Meanwhile, live collabs on the official holo channel easily get 40k+. The biggest streams on there get 100k+ like the new years stream. Niji has many more 100k+ CCV streams on their channel because they usually host tournaments on that channel, whereas Holos don't usually host tournaments.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:36:32 2021 No.6662380 >>6661274 Why is vnuma dead?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:36:36 2021 No.6662381 >>6662310 jps have shit taste tho

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:36:56 2021 No.6662389 >>6662310 is lowe effort promotion and gets 100k views every week and 8k to 10k views. it would be betetr to rotate on each girl channel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:37:41 2021 No.6662402 If holos wanna do something similar to the baseball arc but since holo is global, what type of tournament game that would likely appeal to everyone? I am thinking soccer. I have no interest in baseball.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:40:14 2021 No.6662462 if they do it they will divide pov on manystreams, i doubt the girls would have any reason to focus on only one point of view.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:40:38 2021 No.6662469 >>6662402 Would the minecraft sports festival from last year be comparable?

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:41:03 2021 No.6662483

>>6662402
>soccer.
eeh anime got more popular in the world but the amount of people who like to watch soccer and anime is still rather low. honestly with the old mindset of "its just cartoons" still being around it would be pretty hard to catch the normies with something like this

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:41:10 2021 No.6662488 >>6662402 strip poker

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:41:51 2021 No.6662504 >>6662469 No, this is sponsored by Konami. Give up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:43:46 2021 No.6662560 >>6661326 I don't get it. What's the big deal with Niji Koshien anyway? Isn't it just baseball? >>6661364 Tomari Mari is unironically pure sex Even with the voice changer

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:44:11 2021 No.6662568 >>6662469 No because multi POV Average casual doesn't watch multiple streams at once

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:44:21 2021 No.6662573
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>>6662402
>what type of tournament game that would likely appeal to everyone?
Not even ironically, the one thnig that nips and burgers have in common that looks the most like vTubing in general
>Holofightz

They wouldn't even have to operate the fighters themselves, just sanction the fights and react to them live on their channels

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:44:22 2021 No.6662574 >>6662402 love live

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:44:25 2021 No.6662579 >>6662560 Nips love baseball

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:46:53 2021 No.6662635 >>6662573 >They wouldn't even have to operate the fighters themselves, just sanction the fights and react to them live on their channels Or we could actually get Korone to box somebody. I'd watch that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:47:43 2021 No.6662654 >>6662573 where the heck did this originated?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:47:55 2021 No.6662660 >>6662402 >girls >soccer lol, think again when you have male in your branch

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:48:41 2021 No.6662682

>>6662402
It will be extremely hard for Holo to try something like this, without blatantly copying Nijibaseball. A lot of the hype for it stems from
- japs love baseball a retarded amount
- it's a tournament arc (there's a draft, training weeks, finale)
- the baseball players are Nijis so there's an extra attachment to the teams like how you name your XCOM characters after your friends

There's also the problem of split viewers. Niji's Apex tournament "underperformed" because some people would rather watch their Oshi's POV rather than the main channel's commentary. The game they use for Nijibaseball allows for 1 shared POV so the views are all funneled onto 1 channel.

Thinking of sports games that allow you to create players, most of these characters are male sports players too. Niji's are probably more fine with naming male characters with female niji names and pretending they're female, but I'm not sure about Holos.

And lastly, after how Aqua fucking cried for getting #2 place in Towa's Mario kart tournament, I wouldn't be surprised if Cover's managers are super anal about hosting more tournaments. They don't give a fuck that fans loved the event and the emotions enhanced the experience. They're probably too scared that some holomems take it too seriously and some yabs might happen. Holo managers are fucking cowards anyways.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:49:35 2021 No.6662698
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>non "millionaires", sorted by 7 days subs
Ollie surely picked some speed with her chess thing and also Olivia, pi reciting and math.

She surely thought out of the box and found some very exquisite niches. Sasuga cute zombie!

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:51:22 2021 No.6662744

>>6662654
>where the heck did this originated?
To the best of my knowledge
>this very site and board and original board

>>6662682
>They're probably too scared that some holomems take it too seriously
That's because Holo is based on the premise of "the least of us", not on competition and specially not on internal competition

It is smart too but, at very least, no better or worse than other strategies, only different

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:51:38 2021 No.6662748 What's with niji having high numbers only in events while their chuubas aren't hitting too high? Is it the tourists from all the marketing schemes they're doing? Twitter topic and spamming ads?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:52:11 2021 No.6662761 >>6662682 >there's an extra attachment to the teams like how you name your XCOM characters after your friends a holo playing and making holoxcom would be fucking fun to watch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:52:51 2021 No.6662780 File: 1.67 MB, 1325x979, watamillion.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6662698 Also >Will Watame pick 7k subs during her endurance stream? I don't doubt but I assume it won't be easy

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:54:03 2021 No.6662803 >>6662780 if Noel managed it then so will she

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:54:11 2021 No.6662804 >>6662780 Flare got 9k in 5 hours last week. She'll probably get it in 2-3 hours.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:54:47 2021 No.6662820 >>6662748 It's called being a different agency with diffrent culture. With holo it's events, with niji it's 3D debuts, tournaments and other stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:55:04 2021 No.6662832 >>6662682 no conflict is idol's mantled rule

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:56:43 2021 No.6662879

>>6662748
it's because their fanbase is most cohesive during these company-wide events. it's impossible to closely follow 100+ livers on a regular basis, but you usually know and like all of them due to collabs and such. so most niji fans enjoy these events as an opportunity to watch oshi AND all the others they don't have time to sub to/watch consistently.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:56:46 2021 No.6662882

>>6662748
A lot of Nijifans are normies so they don't really care about what the everyday ongoings of each liver. But big events are exciting and hype so they tune in.

Nips also fucking love baseball. They have 30k more viewers right now for the baseball draft than they did for their Apex tournament, Mario kart tournament, and Mahjong tournament.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:56:58 2021 No.6662887 >>6662748 Their viewers aren't overlap much and only givce a fuck about their oshi stream, only gather when big event happen

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:57:15 2021 No.6662897 >>6661324 Everyone point and laugh

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:57:17 2021 No.6662898 >>6662820 With holo it's 3D debuts, regular debuts and new costumes

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 05:59:46 2021 No.6662973 >>6662879 It also makes it easier for everyone to gather when the official channel is hosting the "main" stream. Holo tournaments or big collabs rarely use the official channel in comparison.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:00:27 2021 No.6662988 With holos, you try to follow the daily life of your idol with other members, with niji, you follow your oshi and pop out on their big events.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:01:06 2021 No.6663006 >>6662898 With some exceptions

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:02:37 2021 No.6663059

>>6662832
It's not just with idols.
Some Martial Arts dojos (Jiu Jitsu, Judo, Karate) don't allow their students to compete with each other in public championships so one of these things happen if they would advance and meet each other
1) the lowest ranked (determined by in school championship or seniority) forfeits
2) they literally jan ken pon to decide who advances

It is common practice in various areas to avoid competitiveness among members of a group

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:02:41 2021 No.6663060 >>6662748 With over 100 chuubas it's not like everyone gets amazing numbers equally. A Kanda fan may not be watching a Toko stream but they'll both be watching an interesting event.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:11:02 2021 No.6663383 By now, most of the popular Nijis have been drafted and the number seems to have stabilized around 135k. 30k increase from last year is pretty successful. The addition of Kuzuha must have helped.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:12:36 2021 No.6663438 File: 250 KB, 640x640, cocock.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6663383 still pathetic if you ask me

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:12:37 2021 No.6663439 Which solo, normal stream(no special event) has the highest live viewers?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:13:15 2021 No.6663461 On IRyS news, her nitro boost seems to have tapered off and she's slowing down to regular levels of growth, just in time for 500k too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:14:16 2021 No.6663504 File: 14 KB, 706x126, irys nitro.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6663461 Pic related

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:15:46 2021 No.6663555

>>6663438
Oi, that isn't something any event will ever compare to, unless v-tubers become mainstream to the max (and all the problems associated with that).

Apples to apples, this draft shows that Niji has grown year over year, which is good news for Niji as a whole. Can't wait to see what the finals looks like.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:17:40 2021 No.6663632 >>6663438 yes, it's pathetic to numberfag with graduation stream

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:20:57 2021 No.6663809 >>6663555 >>6663632 >falling for the shitflinger bait Anons, plz

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:21:30 2021 No.6663838 >>6663809 >posting numbers in a numbers thread is bait

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:21:56 2021 No.6663866 >>6663809 For real, the moment someone says 137k viewers is "pathetic" you already know they're not worth responding to.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:24:40 2021 No.6664015 >>6663838 Nice try shitflinger.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:25:12 2021 No.6664040 >>6663632 Yeah if anon really wants to shitfling, he should post Marine's fantasia numbers

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:30:00 2021 No.6664253 >>6663439 Pekomama?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:31:51 2021 No.6664344 >>6664253 Oh yeah. NIJIKEKS BTFO

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:33:03 2021 No.6664412 >>6664253 Not sure Pekora can do Pekomama event again

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:34:04 2021 No.6664448 >>6663439 >>6664253 If you don't want to count that since it's not "solo" then Gura's first unarchived karaoke is the one on the top of my head.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:35:50 2021 No.6664527 >>6664253 How was that a normal stream? That was a special stream that can only be done once.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:36:00 2021 No.6664534

>>6664253
>>6664412
>>6664448
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/IW2t52ps27s
Peko mama 129k

https://holo.poi.cat/stream/WnHaQOhuj_s
Gura karaoke 119k

These are the 2 "regular" streams I remember getting insane numbers. You can argue Pekomama is a unique stream, then it's Gura's karaoke.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:37:06 2021 No.6664580 >>6664448 So it's not game stream being the top... Keep hoping gaming stream can reach 100K( of course for solo only )

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:38:08 2021 No.6664635
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I JUST FIGURED OUT WHY AKI ROSE SEO IS SO BAD
>Her channel name is "アキロゼCh。Vtuber/ホロライブ所属"

That transliterates to
>Aki roze

That's why you get assorted stuff under akirose (and variations).
>pic related

Her "Youtube topic" is " アキ・ローゼンタール - Topic" too, "Aki Rozental", which Google cannot automatically associate with her main channel because of the name difference.
Here is the topic automatically created:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkchb08qq-E4zPB8_f4BnOA

Both google and likely even Rosetai doesn't even know that exists because for all Google knows that's some "Aki Rozetal" chick (aka Aki Roze) not related to our delicious Aki.

Is there any Rosetai in this thread that can nudge this little piece of information in her direction? Not doing SEO correctly is actively hurting her numbers and this must be one of the reasons.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:40:07 2021 No.6664725 >>6664580 For a solo game stream (no collabs), the most recent one I can think of is Pekora's 70k finishing FFX. https://holo.poi.cat/stream/UdEB-KcULcQ There might be some insane solo Gura streams in her debut month too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:41:51 2021 No.6664829 >>6664635 Ahhhh yes, the dreaded Aki name timeloop. Some anons have pointed this one out in the numbers thread before...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:42:03 2021 No.6664844 >>6664635 Please offer your services to cover they really need someone like you advising them

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:42:19 2021 No.6664862

>>6662820
>a different agency with diffrent culture
>>6662879
> fanbase is most cohesive during these company-wide events
>>6662882
>big events are exciting and hype so they tune in, Nips also fucking love baseball
>>6662887
>Viewership doesn't overlap
>>6663060
>With over 100 chuubas it's not like everyone gets amazing numbers equally

Nijis does big events with important figures means high numbers. 8 separate chuubas with their fanbases would tune in to watch them, accounting for tourists and normies too. Kuzuha, their biggest liver is playing too which means an additional increase from last year's peak. From what I've heard, there's going to be a 3 week training session where all of them are gonna train on-stream, so kuzuha is expected to have high numbers during it. I wonder if he could practice alongside his CR cup tourney. So from a newfag's perspective, this is literally their biggest event of the year where they pull in high numbers in 3 weeks alongside ads as a buff?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:43:26 2021 No.6664906 >>6664534 >>6664580 If you really want to stick to something "normal" The one's I remember are Pekora's final FFX stream and Gura's RFA.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:44:47 2021 No.6664982

>>6664844
I'll be blunt and summarize it as
>if it was up for sale they genuinely wouldn't be able to afford it
I work in a very specialized field and the closest customers for this type of services our company gets would be Capcom, Samsung and the likes.
Small startups as Cover can't afford this type of specialized and soulless number crunching data analyzing services.

Now, for free is another story, I would gladly do it for free for them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:48:46 2021 No.6665170 >>6664412 If she does it annually, as long as she retains her fanbase, she can still get 100k-ish.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:49:26 2021 No.6665208 File: 20 KB, 463x453, nani.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6664982 So what you're saying is that you work for a company specializing in numberfagging and you lurk here as a hobby?

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:49:31 2021 No.6665210

>>6664862
It is one of their biggest events, but they probably think something like Nijifes or the NJU, if they do it again this year, to be "bigger". If they got 30k more than last year for the draft, then it's possible this year's grand final will have 220k. Theoretically, Holos can do something like NJU (year end concert with 20+ holos) and get 200k+, but Cover will rather sell tickets and make money instead.

On a separately related numbers note, it's cute that after round 5, the picks are determined randomly by roulette. That way you don't have awkward moments like Kuzuha not being able to name more than 40 Nijis or literally not knowing who to pick/forced to pick someone he's never talked to before.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:50:20 2021 No.6665241 >>6665208 Yes and also because having a dataset with some soul atached to them helps take the dredge out of the soulless of commercial numbers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:50:53 2021 No.6665269 >>6665170 She'll need to erase her memory first then

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:51:37 2021 No.6665290 >>6665210 Cover makes millions of dollars off their big concerts. I know I'd rather make millions than get high views.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:52:03 2021 No.6665296 So, apparently the only reason why JP and EN MC servers are not connected is due to EN girls being lazy and not killing Ender dragon ages ago. Imagine the numbers they could have get with participation in various building events etc

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:55:12 2021 No.6665459 >>6665296 Laziness aside, my hunch is that they timed it now to coincide with the drop of EN2 that might happen within the next 2 weeks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:55:30 2021 No.6665473 >>6664635 I don't think she's the only one with a Japanese channel name, most of the early gens left it that way. Probably something to let her or her manager know, or heck, even posting it on their reddit might get enough attention.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:57:20 2021 No.6665544 >>6665296 Wait, is that it? Did that come up on Kiara's stream? BLOODY HELL YOU LAZY EN GIRLS HURRY UP AND KILL THE DRAGON. oh that sounds bad in the context of recent events........but yeeesh they better do it before gen2 hits.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:58:34 2021 No.6665603 File: 317 KB, 1004x675, Bild_2021-07-17_125805.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >peaks >massive drop off after first round leaving her bellow Nenechi

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:59:03 2021 No.6665631 >>6665296 >what is lag? anon....

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:59:09 2021 No.6665636 >>6662780 She's gotten 8 k in 2 different singing streams before, no doubt she'll do it for a Million singing stream.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 06:59:10 2021 No.6665637

>>6665296
No it was originally because they wanted to play Minecraft before the en collab ban ended, but then as it turns out only two of the ENs are really interested in playing Minecraft and the en server ended up being a ghost town, but by the time they realized that they've already put in too much work into the server to just delete it and move over to the JP server.
The ender dragon thing came up afterwards, it wasn't originally part of the plan at all

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 07:01:42 2021 No.6665761 >>6665637 Better to leave the EN server around anyway since new gens can build upon it. The JP server is far too crowded already.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 07:01:49 2021 No.6665767

>>6665637
>>6665296
Exactly. There's literally a clip of Gura saying that she doesn't think Minecraft is fun to play solo, so you already know she never plays it offstream and it shows from how ignorant she still is after so many months. Calli is somehow even worse than Gura at minecraft, literally the worst MC player in all of Hololive. HoloEN gen 2 needs some minecraft autists to bring some life to the server, because Ina and Ame can only do so much while Kiara is trapped in 50 hour long JRPGs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 07:03:03 2021 No.6665835 >>6665603 People found out Ina's the best EN player and all moved to her stream. It was the right decision, since she popped off.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 07:05:02 2021 No.6665946

>>6664635
Your best bet is to honestly just send this information to cover with the contact form
https://cover-corp.com/contact/en/#lang
It might not get anywhere but at least there's a chance that a manager might see it and it gets passed down to her.

>>6665473
The other ones with Japanese channel names don't have this same issue, mainly because the only other one with a full Japanese name is Fubuki and her name romanises just fine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 07:10:22 2021 No.6666211 >>6665835 ah the one EN i did watch turned out to be a dodge ball god still droping the holo you like for better gameplay is pretty cringe

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 07:12:12 2021 No.6666272 >>6665210 Could the Olympics this year affect their numbers though? It's happening in their country. A number of tourists/normies would be inclined to watch that instead of a digital tournament for vtubers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 07:13:21 2021 No.6666309 >>6666211 That was just my guess, but it seemed like Calli's stream had poor FPS and technical issues so people might have switched to have a better stream experience.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 07:13:49 2021 No.6666331 >>6666272 Don't most Olympic matches happen in the afternoon and early evening?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 07:14:49 2021 No.6666369 So, knockout En vs JP stream was not super hot. Around 7k on Calli channel, common numbers

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 07:15:01 2021 No.6666374

>>6666272
I have no numbers to back this up, but I can almost assure you the olympics will not affect vtuber numbers. Completely different audiences and honestly speaking, I think vtuber watchers are more excited for Nijibaseball than the Olympics. Only boomers really care about Olympics nowadays from me own experience.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 07:16:50 2021 No.6666443 >>6661324 >200k draft https://playboard.co/en/video/jR5wPTxruZg kek

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 07:17:33 2021 No.6666470
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>>6665473
>I don't think she's the only one with a Japanese channel name
It's not the Japanese name, google can transliterate it, it is the "ロゼ" in "ローゼンタール".
She pretty much split her brand in the English version and the Japanese version.

As far as Google is concerned, there are two "musical artists"

>アキロゼ (aka AkiRoze), the Aki you know and love, with an Youtube Channel, a Twitter account and multiple hits on Youtube Music
>Some literally who "Aki Rose" which gets mentioned once in a whie for some reason

PIc related, it is not the fact her channel name is in Japanese (it hurts too, but not that much) but the fact the transliteration for her name is "Aki Roze".

All she has to do to fix it tho is
1) change her channel name to add her favored English version (Aki Rose)
2) add it to the title of her streams
3) insist that her fans call her "Aki Rose" from now on, and add to the clip titles and any post mentioning her

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 07:19:45 2021 No.6666552 >>6666470 Really dude, send this over to cover through the contact form, this is way too valuable to languish in this Vietnamese cave painting forum

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 07:23:55 2021 No.6666764

>>6666552
You would be surprise with the type of things this humble cambodjan anime catgirl bulletin board managed to "push upwards" the communication chain.

I doubt I can convey this same information in a text only contact form but I'll give it a try. I don't do Reddit or any social media that requires a login so any anon that want can do that on Aki's behalf because I don't have the means

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 07:26:59 2021 No.6666898 >>6666764 You can put image links in a cat box or imgur or something, if you really need it. Imgur is preferable but it does require a log in.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 07:27:06 2021 No.6666901 Koshien this year will reach at least 230k viewrs with all branches (except VR), it's going to be interesting to see.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 07:33:57 2021 No.6667135 >>6661324 watch it, anon will now say he meant 200k total views instead of live

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 07:35:19 2021 No.6667171 >>6666901 230k if Kuzuha's team made it to finals

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 07:41:13 2021 No.6667336 >>6665946 >https://cover-corp.com/contact/en/#lang >>6666552 >send this over to cover through the contact form Done. If her channel name ever changes to > Aki Rose Ch. アキロゼ you guys will know where the idea came from

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 07:42:27 2021 No.6667370 >>6667336 Imagine Aki inclining because of you kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 07:44:55 2021 No.6667432 >>6666470 People always underestimate names

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 07:46:35 2021 No.6667471 File: 204 KB, 480x401, watamelonmad.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6667432 >he is sucking up to names in a numbers thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 07:49:30 2021 No.6667536 >>6667471 Names are powerful incantations to summon good numbers. Having an unique and memorable name like >Usada Pekora and >Gawr Gura does wonders to favor discoverability

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 07:50:56 2021 No.6667569 >>6667171 Kuzuha is not the main draw of this event, it's the ships/units so people can make stories. You all act like Kuzuha is some 80k view guy when a good chunk of his viewers are just there to have the retarded little bro playing Apex experience.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 07:50:56 2021 No.6667570 >>6666369 Ina had the highest peak followed by calli then Nenechi Calli had a sharp drop off that left her with a lower average than Nenechis tho

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 07:52:24 2021 No.6667601 >>6666309 >had poor FPS and technical issues how do ENs keep having this? i barely watch them but i keep hearing about those fuck ups on here so fucking often

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 07:52:30 2021 No.6667605 >>6666901 Is this the first time that Niji has the non-JP branches participate?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 07:53:03 2021 No.6667627 >>6667605 yes

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 07:54:49 2021 No.6667674

>>6667471
What are numbers but names given to the identification of quantities of objects?!

Actually, since we're on the topic. Of names.....

In an incognito search of YouTube, reflect gives Gura's song as the first hit, but Sparks doesn't get a hit of the song at all and instead throws up Sparks by Coldplay.

I wonder if part of the reason her song is doing poorly(besides the quality of the song) is because it shares its name with such an already established song, whereas there's nothing quite that big already under the name Reflect.

I'm probably just rambling at this point and need to sleep.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 07:55:34 2021 No.6667690 >>6667135 What was the record, anyway?

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 08:00:27 2021 No.6667785
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I can see Kuzuha avg more than Maimoto. Hayato and Ange at Lizes level, Sasaki slightly lower than Lize, Shiina, Rion, Deron same level as last year, Haruka at Kenmochi's level

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 08:02:12 2021 No.6667832
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>Mel and Aki peaks were BEFORE their streams started
Youtube is truly culling live viewers when the stream starts and it is not easy to even begin to understand what happens.

Also
> Ina most likely mogged viewers from Calli
Ina inclined during the stream and to a certain extent Nene too. Calli declined hard while the others remained stable

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 08:03:23 2021 No.6667859 File: 619 KB, 2151x783, 786378468346.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6667785 this is their peak or atleast avg ccv a month. highlighted Red boxes are the participants last year and black circles are for this year.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 08:04:48 2021 No.6667898 >>6667785 Agreed. It's so weird to see Kenmochi's baseball buffed numbers are somehow worse than his current numbers. Making his streams rarer and turning himself into a meme really spiked his numbers in the past year.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 08:05:11 2021 No.6667909 >>6667674 >Sparks by Coldplay Bahaha, muggles numberfagging there by Kiara and team. Might as well release a song named "Despacito"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 08:07:45 2021 No.6667965 >>6667832 >Mel and Aki peaks were BEFORE their streams started thats...depressing

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 08:07:56 2021 No.6667971 >>6666901 Will Pomu and friends be in this? I don't think any of them know anything about baseball.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 08:09:56 2021 No.6668019

>>6667971
They don't actually play in the game. They have in-game characters named after them IIRC if they get assigned to someone's team. Elira and Pomu are on Ange's team.
Think of it like XCOM where you name your units after your friends and get to watch them kill shit/get killed from your commands.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 08:10:18 2021 No.6668037 rabbits two years aniversary started now. already at 35k life viewers

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 08:10:59 2021 No.6668050

>>6667965
You can interpret that this way but I see it differently. Kiara peak is not showing in that chart so I'll assume it was also before her stream started, which leads to the conclusion that
>Google algo for live viewers is different depending on whether the stream started or not
With the old algorithm remaining in the waiting room

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 08:13:55 2021 No.6668130 >>6668037 Most of the girls are smart and cleared the slot for Pekora to stream alone >Ollie playing APEX Well, the zombie gets a pass because the audience is not the same for that

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 08:14:37 2021 No.6668147 >>6667570 >Calli had a sharp drop off Well, obviously, since she started like 10 minutes earlier than the other girls and was essentially the waiting room until the others started and people slowly fucked off to the ones they actually wanted to see.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 08:18:11 2021 No.6668229

>>6667832
>Ina most likely mogged viewers from Calli
>Ina inclined during the stream and to a certain extent Nene too. >Calli declined hard while the others remained stable
Interested. Further reinforced my belief that, in terms of viewership, whenever HoloENs are full collabing with different POVs 2nd place will often be a toss up between Ina and Ame. Mori's music numbers really are a saving grace for her.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 08:19:12 2021 No.6668250

>>6668050
Susan cuking us out of bigger numbers...
>>6668130
Towa is also doing a members only stream of the apex cup she is taking part in. pretty clever way honestly
>>6668147
seems that way. the drop off is at around 12:15(the time most other streams started in my timezone) honestly this makes it hard to say that this was callis peak

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 08:22:31 2021 No.6668316 >>6662402 Sports is not as good an investment for holo since its fanbase is more otaku and less normalfag than niji. They're doing the right thing investing in collabs with anime, games, character goods and maid cafes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 08:24:17 2021 No.6668363 >>6662402 Unironically Pro Wrestling

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 08:26:23 2021 No.6668417

>>6668229
Ina's also popular among Japanese viewers, and her Japanese is more coherent than Mori's. Normally this wouldn't matter but in a JP-only collab in JP primetime it's bound to pad her numbers some. I feel like if Ina would have done her Golden Week costume stream at 10 am instead of 5 PM she would have topped Mori's 135k or whatever.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 08:27:50 2021 No.6668453 File: 603 KB, 1250x877, pekora.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Pekora slowly approaching 50k

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 08:30:42 2021 No.6668545

>>6668417
People come to Mori for her music, not her gameplay. She's bad in games. Ina is the most competent gamer for EN 1.

>>6665637
I've been watching homostars for a while now. Three of them are trying to fight the dragon in less than 5 hours of Minecraft Hard mode. EN1 is just lazy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 08:31:26 2021 No.6668571 >>6668453 Not that impressive for an anniversary stream, but then again, she's not really doing anything special. A totsumachi or a 3D stream would have easily broken 70k by this time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 08:34:00 2021 No.6668633 >>6668545 Keep in mind that's males playing a video game vs females.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 08:34:01 2021 No.6668636 >>6668130 LMAO. No. She pulled in the same numbers yesterday even if there were a lot of streams at the time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 08:37:47 2021 No.6668729 >>6668571 >she's not really doing anything special Quite the contrary, watching her own streams with both Pekoras talking will filter the EOPs hard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 08:37:53 2021 No.6668730 >>6662897 What was the peak?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 08:42:13 2021 No.6668813 almost 50k poeple watching the rabbit reacting to her old videos, sugoi

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 08:47:30 2021 No.6668933 >>6668729 >>6668813 Call this a rrat, but she might not want to one-up rushia's anniversary for tommorow.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 09:06:11 2021 No.6669357

>>6668933
watching your old streams/clips seems to be coming into favor right now as stream content. Rushia did the same recently. lets see if it catches on.
>>6668571
Peko would need to get others for a 3D concert since she is a comedien not a idol. a simple goofy 3D stream like Mel still does them might have be more up her ally

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 09:15:17 2021 No.6669697 >>6669357 It's easy content that works for anniversary/announcing anniversary stuff. I imagine HoloEN is gonna do that in September, and it's gonna be cringe kino.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 09:20:17 2021 No.6669862 >>6669697 dunno about Kino but its going to be cringe at least it will get some good numbers tho

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 09:21:34 2021 No.6669912

>>6666470
>>6666552
>>6667336
Rosetai here. I've been trying to figure out what the deal was with her channel being so hard to find but gave up because I am not all that familiar with SEO, Google/YouTube search and translations.

Come to think of it, does YouTube automatically resolve all Hololive channels even if they don't the term 'hololive' attached to them?
Would having name uniformity improve the SEO for all channels?

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 09:54:36 2021 No.6671210
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>>6669912
>Would having name uniformity improve the SEO for all channels?
No, it is very rare to "improve" SEO of anything. What is really easy is to "hurt" one's SEO

As far as Google is concerned there is
>アキ・ローゼンタール, aka アキロゼ (aka Aki roZe)
This person is the owner of the youtube channel, the one uploading music to the platforms and owner of the Twitter.

Then there is this other lady
> Aki Rosenthal
which has vtuber wiki pages, gets clipped once in a while but that Google can't find anything about her at all.

You and I know they are one and the same but as far as Google (and other search engines are concerned, like for instance Playboard) is concerned, they don't have anything to do with each other.

Here is her "SEO" on playboard

>Aki Rose: https://playboard.co/en/search?q=Aki%20Rose
>Aki Rosenthal: https://playboard.co/en/search?q=Aki%20Rosenthal
>アキロゼ: https://playboard.co/en/search?q=%E3%82%A2%E3%82%AD%E3%83%AD%E3%82%BC
>アキ・ローゼンタール: https://playboard.co/en/search?q=%E3%82%A2%E3%82%AD%20%E3%83%AD%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BC%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB

I will save you all a click and make it a handy pick. The only "first spot" for Aki's channel is searching with something NOBODY in the west will ever do: アキロゼ

FUCKING WOOHOOLAD MOGS HER SEO ON "Aki Rosenthal", at least on Playboard
>NO, REALLY, FUCKING WOOHOOLAD

Playboard likely uses basic bitch "full text serach" for their searches, Google is smarter than that but even then.
This shows that all she needs is the tiniest tweak in her image to achieve the level of success her talent deserves

> no, really, fucking Woohoolad
I already sent this to the contact form but if you Rosetai have a better way to get this issue to her (fan Discord or something) do it.

All she needs is to change her channel name to
> Aki Rose Ch. アキロゼ
and request her fans to refer to her in clips and other written material as "Aki Rose" exclusively from now on when writing in latin script

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 09:55:47 2021 No.6671265 File: 408 KB, 496x468, Screenshot - 2021-07-17 , 14_55_28.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >fucking woohoolad

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 10:03:17 2021 No.6671567 >>6671210 I'll try and spread the word out on my end too but don't expect too much, hololive intentionally puts barriers between the idols and the general fanbase, and for good reason too

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 10:05:30 2021 No.6671658 Nijisanji's music thingie is happening right now if anyone cares

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 10:06:23 2021 No.6671688

>>6671567
>and for good reason too
Exactly. Just pass the word. There is this pic >>6671210 and this pic >>6666470 and this too >>6664635 to help and remember
>DO YOUR POWER LEVEL REPS AND DON'T DISCLOSE THE ORIGIN
Not everybody is ready to take advice from an Australian anonymous wakipai sommelier forums.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 10:07:24 2021 No.6671722 >>6671658 Post link anon

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 10:11:38 2021 No.6671870

>>6671688
Yeah I sent the reddit mod a message saying it's from a discussion on discord, he has been responsive to similar stuff in the past but I'm pretty sure he has no authority to make changes like this or even pass the message on to the right people so, you know, don't expect too much

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 10:12:39 2021 No.6671900 >>6671722 https://youtu.be/3JNiqqNL7gU At 16k now. I though it's a premier but it's actually live

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 10:32:52 2021 No.6672448 >>6671900 It’s just playing parts of a live that already happened except for the last talk part

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 10:39:38 2021 No.6672621 >>6671900 All the youtube music weekend segments are pre-recorded or just compilations of past lives.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 10:41:55 2021 No.6672681 >>6672621 Mito one is supposedly live

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 10:47:28 2021 No.6672836 >>6672681 True mb. That one is billed as a live concert.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 10:47:56 2021 No.6672851 >>6672681 No. There are no lives.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 10:48:30 2021 No.6672872
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Aruran went from under 500 on the regular to over 1k on two simple tricks
1) fail to achieve his goal of breeding a blue umpa
2) the memes around it and Astel renaming himself to “blue_axlotot”
Goes to show the buffing power of Minecraft. This could be their “lapislazuri” moment

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 10:53:42 2021 No.6673020 Watame actually manage to rope in 30K to watch her reach 1M, very happy for the sheep

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:02:08 2021 No.6673302 >>6672851 No this is live, and the sound is fucked

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:14:02 2021 No.6673668

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqfFxdtsl6E

Remember when people were making fun of the low # of views on the NijiEN Gen 2 trailer? Well either interest suddenly spiked, or they started putting out ads for it because it's at 1.1mil now after a few days. Honestly, I think it's the ads, it doesn't seem like people were coming to this channel to specifically look at the trailer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:14:42 2021 No.6673691 23k and inclining, beating Calli's 22k from yesterday

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:18:15 2021 No.6673788 File: 8 KB, 555x56, 17.23.16.31firefox_yuzrSUr5eX.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ONE MILLION SHEEP

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:20:32 2021 No.6673836 >>6673691 well, it's actually LIVE and a full blown 3d concert, it's actually quite low for what it is

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:20:39 2021 No.6673841 >>6673691 Didn't even have to bring legendary manjisanjis for that huh

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:20:41 2021 No.6673844 >>6673668 Feels like Ads https://playboard.co/en/video/eqfFxdtsl6E Go wait when playboard updates their data. If engagement doesn't increase then it means ads.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:24:13 2021 No.6673945 Well she's already beaten her previous record, let's see how high this can get because knowing her I'm sure she'll try and thank everyone tonight

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:24:35 2021 No.6673952

>>6673691
>>6673841
No offense to iinchou, but 25k for a 3D live is an underperformance, especially since it's on her own channel too. Having only a 30 min timeslot might be a reason for the low-ish numbers. The Nijifes recap vid coming up after might break 25k.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:27:44 2021 No.6674039 >>6673952 Still more than anything from Hololive

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:28:16 2021 No.6674053
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>>6673668
>Well either interest suddenly spiked, or they started putting out ads for it
Based on other indicators of activity (comments, likes) it seems to be ads.
> pic related
Some run of the mill low viewed "sneak peek" for some Holo NND exclusive vs. this debut video.

The "ratio" in this case would be the "likes / views" and "comments / view"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:28:46 2021 No.6674066 >>6674039 Lmao sheep has more people watching he right now than your literal who, now piss off nijinigger, real men are talking

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:29:18 2021 No.6674083 >>6673788 That was fast, how long did it take?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:30:49 2021 No.6674141 >>6674066 You should learn the word "context" before posting

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:32:13 2021 No.6674185

>>6674039
Nene is one of the few holomems with less subs than iinchou and even she managed to get 49k for her solo 3D live.

https://holo.poi.cat/stream/jdio7hLzy3w

25k is what a weekly karaoke from Marine gets. Not even going to get to Suisei/Gura's karaokes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:32:42 2021 No.6674204 Is there still more? No way Niji can beat Calli's 22k with premier.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:32:58 2021 No.6674212 >>6674185 Youtube Music Weekend

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:33:46 2021 No.6674243 >>6674204 It's already at 30k lol.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:33:52 2021 No.6674247 File: 478 KB, 720x993, IMG_20210717_233250.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6674053 I think this is a better example with the duration of vid considered. 40sec vid vs 1min vid

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:33:58 2021 No.6674252 >>6674204 Just did.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:34:11 2021 No.6674255 File: 198 KB, 1500x1050, E6gbkbxVIAEDZG6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:35:26 2021 No.6674294 >>6663438 It's a graduation stream you dumbfuck

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:35:45 2021 No.6674309 >>6674255 Does Olympics already begin?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:35:55 2021 No.6674312 >>6674255 >Tokyo 2020 BTFO Nips should cut their losses and just cancel the whole thing, make some Japan "American Ninja" (I know it is their originally, I just don't know the name) and be done with it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:36:14 2021 No.6674324 >>6674255 what was Marine's stream today that it manage to gather 40K views?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:37:06 2021 No.6674351 >>6674324 Break announcement and updates on her voice

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:37:33 2021 No.6674363 >>6674324 Talking about her throat problems. >>6674255 Irrelevant to vtuber numbers, but WTF Jun almost beat Nijibaseball.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:37:49 2021 No.6674370 File: 2.84 MB, 1920x1080, Screenshot - 2021-07-17 , 16_37_12.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6674324 Zatsudan to announce she will be reducing activity to let her throat heal.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:38:14 2021 No.6674386 >>6674351 Looks like a lot of Holos are going for a break

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:39:37 2021 No.6674439

>>6674386
>Looks like a lot of Holos are going for a break
And that's a good thing, japanese work ethics usually has their peons working themselves to literal death.
I don't doubt that, after Aqua, Shion and Haachama "mental issues" break Cover must have instituted a
>if you get even a whiff of a problem you are going on a break
policy

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:42:59 2021 No.6674552 >>6674204 More than twice than that already

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:43:33 2021 No.6674572 >>6674212 Its a live 3D concer that massively underperformed. Keep coping Nijinigger. No Niji fan wants to watch a female, they have cooties. Manjisanji.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:44:10 2021 No.6674598 File: 2.76 MB, 1280x720, watame-headpats.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Some anon got to headpat the million subs sheep WELL ANONS? Why was it not (you)?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:45:45 2021 No.6674659 I thought that kanata was ahead of watame in the sub race, looking at the data, watame had a lead of 50K+ that is getting smaller (less than 20k)due to the graduation buff from coco.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:46:17 2021 No.6674680 Your birth has also massively unerperformed. Might try from start again.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:46:54 2021 No.6674700

I'm a Holofan, but I like numbers days like this when newfags who keep underestimating Nijisanji get humbled.

Imagine thinking a pre-recorded live2d Calli karaoke was going to beat Nijisanji's "greatest hits of 2020" highlight reel. I watched the Hololive highlight reel last night too and it sucked ass. They repeated SSS performances like 3 times at like 3am JST, no wonder it only got 22k peak.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:47:25 2021 No.6674715 >>6674204 Why would you even think this

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:48:25 2021 No.6674750 im waiting some hours for mitos video to settle, but probbaly is 110k for the day. Mori was 120k impressive for the nigger of Nippon to win with such scuff

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:49:21 2021 No.6674783 >>6665241 Based numberchad. You should send this >>6664635 through her marshmellow or go to cover website to send her a letter. In nips ofc.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:49:54 2021 No.6674806 >>6669697 Gura already did this at 6 months for some reason and it was great content. Ina's will just be "wow im so shy" but Mori and Ame will be great for how much they'll cringe at themselves. Kiara's will just be "lol bottom left".

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:52:37 2021 No.6674893

>>6674700
>underestimating Nijisanji
Anon, Nijisanji gets crushed on these charts every single day. They can only sniff these kind of numbers when they funnel the entire company onto one channel. Hololive gets these numbers with fucking outfit reveals, lol. You are a false flagger anyway so whatever.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:53:14 2021 No.6674912
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>>6674783
>go to cover website
Already sent Cover a contact form. I am ABSURDLY allergic to anything that could disclose my identity (given that I have no social media, not even a personal email, only the company provided one) so other anons will have to do the ferrying of information

>>6674659
>I thought that kanata was ahead of watame in the sub race
Nah,. Watame benefited from the Minecraft "hako oshi" subs boost, Kanata didn't.
>pic related
The Coco boost was tremendous tho, a couple more weeks and she would have passed Watame

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:54:49 2021 No.6674963 >>6674893 >They can only sniff these kind of numbers when they funnel the entire company onto one channel. > Hololive gets these numbers with fucking outfit reveals The holofags' lack of self awareness makes me doubt that they're even human

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:56:30 2021 No.6675018

>>6674912
>Watame benefited from the Minecraft "hako oshi" subs boost, Kanata didn't.
naw its because watame keep pumping her karaoke stream while kanata don't. Holos are currently experiencing popularity boom from their musical side, just look at the eyes drawn recently( taku inoue, giga and kira etc).

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:56:39 2021 No.6675023 File: 54 KB, 1485x855, kanata watame moona ollie.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6674912 Here with Moona and Ollie in the same chart to show how "off sync" her incline was

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:57:39 2021 No.6675053 >>6674912 Can you give me the graph for kanata and watame anon just curious when she passed the 10k average views. Its weird to see kanata have more average live views but less subs that watame.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:57:53 2021 No.6675066 >>6674963 are you denying that Nijisanji gets crushed on these charts every single day?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:58:41 2021 No.6675097 >>6673668 1M views 9k likes. I've been in the vtuber ecosystem too long, I would expect like 5-10% like/view ratio. Must be people who aren't fans and are just checking it out, which means the ads work. Or they bought views.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:59:52 2021 No.6675138

>>6675018
Soon I will be able to test those alternatives as I am finishing categorizing every stream into type and subtype.

>11114 streams: not categorized yet
>1946 streams: minecraft (gaming)
>1118 streams: apex (gaming)
>0691 streams: singing (talent)
>0626 streams: ark (gaming)
>0495 streams: zatsudan (talking)
>0350 streams: monster hunter (gaming)
>0213 streams: morning stream (talking)
>0185 streams: fall guys (gaming)
>0172 streams: mario kart (gaming)
>0146 streams: asmr (talking)
>0117 streams: among us (gaming)
>0114 streams: animal crossing (gaming)
>0087 streams: uma musume (gaming)
>0084 streams: phasmophobia (gaming)
>0082 streams: study (talking)
>0073 streams: dead by daylight (gaming)
>0065 streams: sakuna (gaming)
>0064 streams: gta (gaming)
>0063 streams: drawing (talent)
>0063 streams: undertale (gaming)
>0058 streams: nier:automata (gaming)
>0057 streams: super smash bros (gaming)
>0055 streams: clubhouse 51 (gaming)
>0054 streams: watch party (talking)
>0051 streams: drinking (talking)
>0049 streams: ring fit (gaming)
>0048 streams: superchat reading (talking)
>0048 streams: cooking (talent)
>0048 streams: tetris 99 (gaming)
>0043 streams: cooking simulator (gaming)
>0040 streams: getting over it (gaming)
>0038 streams: dragon quest (gaming)
>0030 streams: valorant (gaming)
>0025 streams: slither.io (gaming)
>0024 streams: muse dash (gaming)
>0019 streams: miitopia (gaming)
>0019 streams: death stranding (gaming)
>0018 streams: dark deception (gaming)
>0018 streams: hollow knight (gaming)
>0016 streams: project winter (gaming)
>0016 streams: it takes two (gaming)
>0016 streams: thief simulator (gaming)
>0015 streams: trials rising (gaming)
>0015 streams: super bunny man (gaming)
>0014 streams: pien (gaming)
>0014 streams: 60 seconds! (gaming)
>0012 streams: passpartout (gaming)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 11:59:56 2021 No.6675140 >>6675097 is adds, they didi it with the first and will do it with the second.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:00:17 2021 No.6675149 >>6675097 Its a 40 second video. its ads

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:00:20 2021 No.6675152

>>6674893
>You are a false flagger anyway so whatever.
lol accusing me of being a falseflagger just because I'm not stupid enough to think Niji's poor daily numbers mean they're dead in the water. It might help for you to go outside of the holo bubble to see what others are doing. Niji is normie shit and their big events generate arguably more hype than Holo's.

>They can only sniff these kind of numbers when they funnel the entire company onto one channel.
I'm comparing the year end highlight reels, you dumbfuck. Niji's highlight reel is currently at 49k. Hololive's highlight reel last night peaked at 22k. Both are just clips from the past year so it's a level playing field.

>Hololive gets these numbers with fucking outfit reveals, lol.
You can't seriously think maintaining an entire stream at 130k for 2 hours is comparable to a holo costume reveal that spikes up to 100k for 20s? Please don't tell me you're this retarded.
Marine's 3D concert is genuinely impressive. But don't say stupid shit like Calli's costume reveal spiking to 130k for 20s is comparable to the Nijibaseball stream today which stayed at 135k for 2 hours.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:00:50 2021 No.6675173 >>6674963 >>6675066 Could you two give it up already? Tribal numberfagging already died on the 1st July. just enjoy whatever Holo/Niji comes up.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:04:11 2021 No.6675282

>>6674700
>>6674963
Usada kensetsu has hit 250k combined live viewership after the youtube update without using the whole roster.
Nijisanji male has inclined, but the female has reclined harder. The whole company won't incline until more female is graduating.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:05:14 2021 No.6675315 What's happening? Why do I see a unityfag? Which side is losing right now?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:06:30 2021 No.6675354 >>6675152 >Both are just clips from the past year so it's a level playing field. NTA, but both of them aren't on the same timeslot. Hololive highlight reel was in 2/3AM JST for 22k.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:06:56 2021 No.6675374 I do feel like holo viewers tend to rather watch stream under their own member channels rather than the official channel. They rather watch live programs than precorded ones too.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:08:12 2021 No.6675410
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>>6675053
>graph for kanata
Here it goes, still not up to date because I'll have to fill two days by hand from other sources as Holostats took an arrow to the knee.

Here are Kanata streams over 20k

>2021-04-22 :: 79623/96348 :: 【#かなたん爆誕】お誕生日 3D LIVE【天音かなた/ホロライブ】
>2021-05-05 :: 46236/89262 :: 【#天音かなた新衣装】天使のお仕事コスチュームNew outfit【天音かなた/ホロライブ】
>2021-01-01 :: 49749/84711 :: 【#ホロライブ正月衣装】Live2D 2.0も同時公開【天音かなた/ホロライブ】
>2021-06-09 :: 67890/78063 :: 【雑談】ざつだん【天音かなた/ホロライブ】
>2021-01-02 :: 50116/64022 :: 【#天音かなた3DLIVE】僕が主役でもいいですか?【ホロライブ】
>2021-07-13 :: 39670/55269 :: 【Minecraft】青ウーパー最終回セカンドシーズン後編【天音かなた/ホロライブ】
>2021-01-25 :: 34689/50700 :: 【#AKUKIN本社建設リレー】AKUKIN建設本社を可愛く飾る!!!【天音かなた/ホロライブ】
>2021-07-12 :: 37806/47432 :: 【企画】#かなマリ格付けチェック【宝鐘マリン&天音かなた/ホロライブ】
>2021-07-01 :: 35306/40612 :: ここ【天音かなた/ホロライブ】
>2021-06-24 :: 28286/34353 :: 【Minecraft】かなたそ、やぐらを作る!! #うさ建ステージリレー【天音かなた/ホロライブ】
>2021-01-01 :: 26874/30490 :: 【#お正月女子会】まったりおせち食べる会【ホロライブ】
>2021-02-28 :: 23203/29497 :: 【UNDERTALE】初見Gルートへ。その4。【天音かなた/ホロライブ】
>2021-07-10 :: 24422/29354 :: 【Minecraft】青ウーパー自力排出、最終回【天音かなた/ホロライブ】
>2021-04-14 :: 25239/29233 :: 【#ドン鬼宝天】3人で歌う【百鬼あやめ&宝鐘マリン&天音かなた/ホロライブ】
>2021-07-11 :: 22803/28092 :: 【Minecraft】青ウーパーガチャ繁殖ウパ2000匹へ【天音かなた/ホロライブ】
>2021-07-09 :: 22129/26832 :: 【Minecraft】「××時間かかった奇跡の結晶!!」で売りに出す!!!【天音かなた/ホロライブ】
>2021-02-20 :: 19084/25370 :: 【#かなココ】100万人記念に・・・【天音かなた&桐生ココ/ホロライブ】
>2021-05-18 :: 09862/25019 :: 【日本地図テスト】47都道府県埋めておっぱいに埋まる!!!!!!【天音かなた/ホロライブ】
>2021-02-28 :: 16330/24904 :: 【UNDERTALE】初見Gルートへ。その3。【天音かなた/ホロライブ】
>2021-05-30 :: 10893/24886 :: 【ウマ娘】久々のガチャへ・・・!!!!【天音かなた/ホロライブ】
>2021-06-06 :: 13703/24854 :: 【Miitopia】天音プロが描く1時間でそっくりMiiづくり【天音かなた/ホロライブ】
>2021-07-08 :: 18795/24768 :: 【Minecraft】闇市店主、激激激レア青ウーパーチャレンジ!!【天音かなた/ホロライブ】
>2021-03-05 :: 13781/22800 :: 【ウマ娘プリティダービー】地獄ガチャ・・・ライスシャワーが欲しい!!!【天音かなた/ホロライブ】
>2021-06-02 :: 08667/22750 :: 【Miitopia】先生お仕事です!!1時間でそっくりMiiづくり【天音かなた/ホロライブ】
>2021-07-03 :: 09730/22433 :: 【Minecraft】4期生ピクセルアート残り2人!かなたそ編!【天音かなた/ホロライブ】
>2021-05-29 :: 13864/21102 :: 【Miitopia】1時間でどれだけ似せられるかチャレンジ!!!!【天音かなた/ホロライブ】
>2021-02-15 :: 18186/20952 :: 【アイドル衣装】#ホロふぉーすアイドル衣装【天音かなた/ホロライブ】
>2021-06-09 :: 15946/20788 :: 【#カプとれ】2万円で多くとれるのはどっちだ!?かなた VS トワ【天音かなた/ホロライブ】
>2021-01-29 :: 08436,20574 :: 【Minecraft】Godzilla VS Gorilla SEASON2【天音かなた/ホロライブ】

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:08:40 2021 No.6675425

>>6673668
It's all ad views.
They started the ad campaign immediately after the trailer went up instead of a couple days later like during Wave 1.
Even their twitter page has seen a drastic reduction in activity compared to wave 1 (around 1/3 of wave 1)
The actual growth rate for the youtube trailer for wave 1 was around 50k views a day before the ad campaign.
When they started pumping ads it was around 200 - 250k a day.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:08:58 2021 No.6675430 >>6674806 Her 6 months was reviewing her debut stream, which is a bit different than reviewing highlight clips of herself.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:09:08 2021 No.6675436

>>6675354
Yes, I brought up the timeslot difference in my original post, but that alone isn't an excuse for Niji literally doubling Holo's peak (It's at 50k now). If you watched the recap last night and are watching the Niji one right now, it's really easy to tell why one is much more hype than the other.

For a true analysis, we'll need to wait for 24 hours and compare the VOD views because there might be EOPs who are watching it after. But just imo, I'm liking Niji's reel much more despite not even liking Niji. There's just more variety, production value, and hype.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:10:35 2021 No.6675485 >>6675374 Hologra is pretty popular.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:11:12 2021 No.6675506 >>6675152 >130k when the entire fucking company is funneled onto one channel That is actually pathetic. If Hololive had an event where the entire roster was on one channel the numbers would crush that. Know your place false flagger.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:11:44 2021 No.6675519 >>6675354 This, main audience jp, taiwan and hk people and asian are all asleep. I am not going to stay up to highlights of something i already watched.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:12:31 2021 No.6675542 >>6675436 False flagger

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:12:43 2021 No.6675548 kek the drop in live viewers when it switched from ChroNoiR to RRR

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:12:51 2021 No.6675550

>>6669357
It's pretty easy to track this watching old clips trend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtkgGWfPcrA
Kanata started it and Ruhia's talks to her all the time now, she did it too. Then Pekora talks to Rushia and more will come.
They finally realize why so many people are making a living off of reacting to their clips.
And before that Coco did a bunch of old Asacoco watch along member only streams.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:13:33 2021 No.6675572 >>6675506 >If Hololive had an event where the entire roster was on one channel the numbers would crush that They already did, and the numbers were 490k. Don't know what Nijicucks are trying to do but they're the loser here no matter how you look at it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:13:41 2021 No.6675576 >>6671870 Isnt the reddit mod one of ENmanager? I forgot her name but im pretty sure she can tell Aki's manager about it at least.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:13:46 2021 No.6675579

>>6675152
It's weekend midnight, people are still awake. HoloJP highlight reel is at Saturday, 4 a.m. JST. Who the fuck would wake up at that time to watch a highlight reel.
> Both are just clips
This is false.

You are a falseflagger because your argument has no brain involved and you don't watch streams.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:14:40 2021 No.6675616
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>>6675354
28:00 JST I recall, so actually 4 AM in the morning. The Niji compilation clip aired at 12:30 AM.

In contrast, the Holo's time slot started at 12:30 AM with a Holostar while the Nijis began at 11:30 PM coming out swinging with one of their strongest musical units signed to a major record company.

It was not anywhere close to an equal playing field and I'd agree anyone trying to pretend it was is a falseflagger. Or just ignorant.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:14:55 2021 No.6675624 >>6675436 Quality is never important. Only thing important is a big number. ooga booga

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:15:26 2021 No.6675642 >>6674700 People were predicting 200k for the draft. If anything niji still gets overestimated.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:15:44 2021 No.6675660

>>6675374
Streams, yes, but the main channel still gets a lot of stream views, not just video views.
26k average is basically Pekora level, and it's the only Vtuber channel with 1million average video views
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCJFZiqLMntJufDCHc6bQixg

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:15:51 2021 No.6675665 >>6675485 Popularity depends on which chuubas are involved.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:15:57 2021 No.6675670 File: 68 KB, 640x360, vtuber timetable.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6675616 Whoops, uploaded the wrong timetable

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:16:00 2021 No.6675672 >>6675550 Reminds me of Marine doing an official clips highlight recently on her channel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCsdilKt3Mg

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:16:11 2021 No.6675677
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>>6675053
>>6675410
And here's Watame

She had a very good month of June and that anon is right, her singing streams are one of the responsible for her growth.

Here are all of her streams over 16k in 2021, they are special occasions, Minecraft **and** singing.

>2021-05-03 :: 18122/85281 :: 【#角巻わため新衣装】新しい表情も............?!【角巻わため/ホロライブ4期生】
>2021-01-01 :: 52117/69129 :: 【 #ホロライブ正月衣装】ついにきた!新衣装!え、3姉妹...っ?!?!【角巻わため/ホロライブ4期生】
>2021-06-06 :: 58094/68355 :: 【#わための誕生日2021】3Dお誕生日パーティー!!!【角巻わため/ホロライブ4期生】
>2021-06-24 :: 34130/40897 :: 【Minecraft】ステージ作ってくよ! #うさ建ステージリレー【角巻わため/ホロライブ4期生】
>2021-07-01 :: 23138/33507 :: こんな日だからこそ【角巻わため/ホロライブ4期生】
>2021-06-14 :: 24113/27743 :: 【スーパーマリオパーティー】さぁ、パーティーをはじめようか!【#EnjoyHoloMaripa】
>2021-05-26 :: 21404/25080 :: 【Ultimate Chicken Horse】ドキドキのワールドワイド交流...【hololiveJP&ID&EN】
>2021-02-15 :: 20373/24168 :: 【 #ホロふぉーすアイドル衣装】アイドル衣装お披露目動画を同時視聴!【角巻わため/ホロライブ4期生】
>2021-05-25 :: 14978/23831 :: "【歌枠】900,000人目指して歌う!Singing till reach 900k!!!【角巻わため/ホロライブ4期生】"
>2021-01-18 :: 17425/21286 :: 【桃太郎電鉄】Wデート!?バチボコ勝負?!【#はわらぼ桃鉄/ホロライブ】
>2021-01-24 :: 11868/19934 :: 【Minecraft】つのまきじゃんけん装置設置準備!【角巻わため/ホロライブ4期生】
>2021-06-10 :: 14596/19467 :: 【例外配達/Night Delivery】Uber sheep!お届け!【角巻わため/ホロライブ4期生】
>2021-06-12 :: 15844/19201 :: 【Minecraft】つのまきじゃんけん屋さんを完成させる!【角巻わため/ホロライブ4期生】
>2021-07-06 :: 13383/18729 :: 【Minecraft】Weather Hackersを奏でたい!【角巻わため/ホロライブ4期生】
>2021-06-28 :: 11030/18536 :: 【歌枠】第57回!わためぇ Night Fever!!【角巻わため/ホロライブ4期生】
>2021-06-16 :: 12419/17668 :: 【Minecraft】じゃんけん屋に音楽を!【角巻わため/ホロライブ4期生】
>2021-02-16 :: 13300/17519 :: 【Minecraft】つのまきじゃんけん装置を完成させるぞー!【角巻わため/ホロライブ4期生】
>2021-06-05 :: 12057/16825 :: 【誕生日カウントダウン】みんなと一緒に迎えたい!【角巻わため/ホロライブ4期生】
>2021-06-18 :: 11703/16772 :: 【Minecraft】ルーナたんつくるよ!【角巻わため/ホロライブ4期生】
>2021-01-17 :: 08902/16675 :: "【歌枠】700,000人目指して歌う!Singing till reach 700k!!!【角巻わため/ホロライブ4期生】"
>2021-07-11 :: 14118/16320 :: 【スーパーマリオパーティー】みんなでパーティータイム!【#わちゃわちゃマリパ】
>2021-05-07 :: 11896/16304 :: 【Minecraft】わための砂遊び!これが、終わりの始まり...【角巻わため/ホロライブ4期生】
>2021-06-22 :: 12129/16241 :: 【Minecraft】今日は新・わためぇをつくるで!【角巻わため/ホロライブ4期生】

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:16:17 2021 No.6675682 Arguably, you would think that Hololive's larger overseas audience would compensate for their JP audience being asleep but it didn't seem to be the case.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:17:39 2021 No.6675724 >>6675642 >People Saw only one "people" there

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:18:27 2021 No.6675746 >>6675682 >Hololive's larger overseas audience would compensate for their JP audience being asleep it was a bad time for the North America audience as well (friday on working hours). And Western Europe audience is negligible

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:18:31 2021 No.6675748 >>6675724 Read previous threads

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:18:51 2021 No.6675768 File: 79 KB, 240x240, shiraishinana-8.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I just want a comfy website for a quick, easy look at what chuubas are currently streaming Now that vnuma's gone what's the alternative?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:18:51 2021 No.6675769 >>6675642 It was literally one troll calling people holokeks. Come on, anon. Everyone with a brain expected 120-130k considering the buffs and debuffs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:19:29 2021 No.6675795 >>6675677 is ironic giving her originals kinda unperformed. but might be related to timing

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:20:13 2021 No.6675824 >>6675769 >Everyone with a brain expected 120-130 easy to say that after the fact

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:20:32 2021 No.6675836 >>6675642 It was a falseflagger, that anon was always pushing for impossibly big numbers so other anons ignore him, only people new to this thread bite his bait

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:21:42 2021 No.6675888 >>6675824 You can literally see my comment at the top of this post predicting 120k right under the holokek troll that was saying 200k. There were people in the previous thread with the same predictions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:21:45 2021 No.6675894 >>6675768 Make another account to sub to all of them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:21:59 2021 No.6675905 >>6675746 >And Western Europe audience is negligible You ever wonder why is this the case? like some clip channels actually share their data and shows that WE audience only amounts slightly larger than leaf audience. Where are all the spics going ?

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:22:23 2021 No.6675924

>>6675836
It is more or less a rite of passage now
>the shitflinger falseflags with inflated estimates
>people ignore him
>newfags take the bait
>newfags "own" him when his predictions don't come
>newfags think there is a huge segment of people that think like that
>newfags gonna newfag

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:22:53 2021 No.6675939 >>6675748 Nah. I'm not sure what I'm even doing her with all those numbrains obsessed with ther noombers. Staying in these kinds of threads is almost as stressful as trying to make sense of 5ch retardation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:22:59 2021 No.6675943 >>6675905 The Spanish-speaking countries have their own vtuber circles.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:23:07 2021 No.6675947 >>6675768 Unironically holodex

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:23:10 2021 No.6675949 >>6675670 Jeez those are some pretty terrible hours for Hololive. Also no big stream before their segment (baseball was earlier, gets people more likely to mill around I guess)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:24:19 2021 No.6675994 Nijifans are so dishonest. Every time their predictions fail they switch to blaming it on falseflaggers and trolls.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:24:57 2021 No.6676016 >>6675548 It is kind of funny but it’s really to be expected, would happen in any case where a more popular unit goes before a lesser one. The drop wasn’t that bad either

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:25:04 2021 No.6676022 >>6675949 They actually got 22k with Calli at around 1am JST, but then promptly lost it with Sora, Roboco, and AZKI's segments. But ya essentially youtube dealt Cover a real shit hand with these times.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:25:23 2021 No.6676044

>>6675905
>You ever wonder why is this the case?
I know for a fact.
>Spaniards only speak spanish and their whole media is in Spanish
>Frogs the same, with French
>Scandinavians likewise, with their languages
>Anyway east of the Iron Curtain likewise or Russian
>Greeks, Italians and most mediterraneans likewise
It leaves britbongs, which are not that numerous and german speakers, which also are not that numerous

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:27:12 2021 No.6676120 >>6676022 It's proof that Hololive still isn't considered as big as Nijisanji in Japan and I'll take any chance I can to push the "Cover is a small struggling indie company vs the Ichikara corporate behemoth" narrative, so there.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:27:17 2021 No.6676124

>>6675682
I still put countries like taiwan and hongkong above america and europe in terms of passion for holos. They bring the views and superchat to holo. They are pretty much asleep for yesterday streams.

Here is some numbers, in a major vtuber taiwan forum, holo has 650 threads while niji has 107 only.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:27:23 2021 No.6676133

>>6676022
>but then promptly lost it with Sora, Roboco, and AZKI's segments.
It is not as much as "lost" as "never really wanted to keep". Hololive didn't promote it as some ovearching event (or promote it at all).
Akukin relay and Usaken relay got better promotion by the girls, this was a "let's try to show some normies Hololive" thing

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:27:31 2021 No.6676137 OK, here's my recorded peaks for Nijisanji's block of YouTube Music Weekend Rain Drops - 18k Kaede - 9k Mito - 25k Nijisanji - 50k

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:27:42 2021 No.6676148

>>6675905
For yuros that work, JP stream while they're at work while EN streams in the middle of the night. Ina and the JPs like Watame that stream all night are the only ones that are regularly live during euro prime time
For a neet like me I get to watch all my favourites all day which is great

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:28:51 2021 No.6676194 >>6676133 I don't know if Nijisanji promoted their segments more, but given that this is a Youtube Japan initiative I'd assume Youtube did some promoting on everyone's behalf too. In Japan, of course.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:29:10 2021 No.6676203

>>6676124
>in a major vtuber taiwan forum
I talked about this yesterday on another hobby (cosplay):
>Taiwanese cosplayers are going ballistic for Gura
Top ones all cosplayed her in the past few months. Some (like HaneAme) even did Calli, Kiara and Amelia and posted on Reddit too.

Good chinks really love the franchise

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:29:25 2021 No.6676213

>>6676044
Nords don't speak english? I thought they're famous for being the most english language friendly country/people

BTW, apparently there's not much interest in Watame's million march here... But can someone point me in the direction to find how was her stream's numbers?

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:29:28 2021 No.6676215

>>6675410
>2021-04-22 :: 79623/96348 :: 【#かなたん爆誕】お誕生日 3D LIVE【天音かなた/ホロライブ】
>2021-05-05 :: 46236/89262 :: 【#天音かなた新衣装】天使のお仕事コスチュームNew outfit【天音かなた/ホロライブ】
These two basically jump started her incline huh. or maybe coco was such a huge buff. Will have to wait till you have the data.

>>6675677
I can see data points close to 5k. Looking at holostat it seems Watame gets severe debuff when not playing MC or not singing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:31:10 2021 No.6676279 >>6676213 35K, I know because I was there, she even sang weather hackers by the end

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:32:15 2021 No.6676324 >>6676215 Watame is a completionist. She has a great drive to finish games she started and 100% it before moving on. So series like Sakuna Hime, and Void Terrarium goes on for months despite being debuff games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:32:17 2021 No.6676329 >>6676279 I was there, too. It was kino.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:32:31 2021 No.6676339 >>6676203 Kiara has been retweeting and replying to HoloEN cosplayers. Same with WaterRing being liked and shared among HoloEN which ends up making them a whole lot more money with new subs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:32:33 2021 No.6676342 >>6676213 There's not as much need to chronicle ever holo number update because Holostats is still as great as ever. Watame got 35k and it was a kino stream. https://holo.poi.cat/stream/jPribVolmYA

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:32:38 2021 No.6676348

>>6676044
>Scandinavians likewise, with their languages
lmao no, all those guys speak perfect English
>britbongs, which are not that numerous
UK has a bigger population than Canada and Australia combined, yet there's significantly more CAD and AUD superchats than GBP

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:32:40 2021 No.6676349 >>6676213 I do see swedish and danish SCs with some frequency.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:33:49 2021 No.6676392 >>6676279 She peaked on that 35K during Weather Hackers too. Makes me laugh when I see this post >>6673517

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:35:12 2021 No.6676448 >>6676348 Euros are typically less likely to have a lot of disposable income since they're taxed quite heavily.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:36:37 2021 No.6676502 >>6676215 >These two basically jump started Don't look at the top, that's where special events land. True incline is measured by where the bottom starts raising and that would be >June 6 for Kanata, the day Coco announced graduation

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:37:32 2021 No.6676532 >>6676348 That anon is talking more about the weebs populations, and i think he is about right with those points the data the channel shares gives this numbers for western audience coming to his channel >Brits 11k >Germans 14k >Canuks 20k >Burger 115k

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:37:36 2021 No.6676534 >>6676137 Why is kaede so low? Isnt she like one of nijis top singer that sign with lantis?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:38:13 2021 No.6676554 >>6676348 >lmao no, all those guys speak perfect English They do anon, nobody said they didn't. What I said is all their media is in their local language meaning > they consume what they themselves produce for the most part.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:38:40 2021 No.6676569 >>6676502 June 9th actually. I think it's pointless to judge Kanata's numbers right now because she's been leeching for a month straight more than any other member so it's almost a give she will settle back down to where she was before.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:38:48 2021 No.6676576 Eh who cares about some youtube music bullshit. Those numbers aren't even impressive compared to the usual karaoke streams.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:40:25 2021 No.6676635

>>6676569
>leeching
I resent this word in a numbers thread anon. "Buffing" would be more appropriate because it means the same thing without the negative connotation.
If I were a smaller than average VTuber I would tag along with the big boys the whole trip for the sweet numbers, and that's a good thing no matter how you look at it

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:40:48 2021 No.6676648

>>6676502
This, after Coco announced her graduation, both her and Kanata saw their subcounts skyrocket. Lots of people subbed to Kanata and watched her zatsudans for emotional support. I know, since I was there. She got like 80k subs in that month, which is like almost double her usual amount. She also got 14k the day Coco graduated (July 1).

https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCZlDXzGoo7d44bwdNObFacg/monthly

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:40:54 2021 No.6676650 >>6676576 They were impressive for nijisanji, disappointing for hololive.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:41:08 2021 No.6676666 >>6676576 The falseflaggers do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:42:06 2021 No.6676696 >>6676635 It's leeching when Kanata does it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:42:16 2021 No.6676699 >>6676534 Her number rarely reach upper tier from the start, similar case with kazaki. But its true that they signed with label. Trinity member also around middle tier in term of live viewer

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:43:14 2021 No.6676732 >>6676650 Gura and Suisei get more than that for bog standard karaoke streams. Nice "event" Manjisanji.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:43:59 2021 No.6676763 >>6676699 She is funny tho and like utako she give a shit about her EOPs. I like that girl

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:44:04 2021 No.6676765 >>6676635 No point in responding anon. Anyone that would describe Kanata's incline in June as "leeching" isn't worth responding to.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:46:32 2021 No.6676865 >>6676763 Its hard not to like all 3 of JK gumis, even for holofags like me

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:46:52 2021 No.6676874

Before holoen pop up, taiwan and hongkong are pretty much 2nd place in donations to holo. The taiwanese did some sc statistics before but i didn't save them. It is not china people donating because china people use jp vpn and donate in yen. To china people, falseflagging as taiwanese is a huge insult.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:47:34 2021 No.6676896 >>6676732 >gura and suisei karaoke >bog standard wdym? they're decent performers right? wouldn't their karaoke stand out?

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:47:49 2021 No.6676908

>>6676732
Suisei is my oshi and she does not get 50k for her standard karaokes. The last karaoke she did that got more than 50k was the one she did right after Coco's graduation, which is hardly a standard one, and her recent "big announcement" buffed karaoke got 49k. Her normal karaoke numbers are 37k now.

Gura did get 44k for her last karaoke, but they are so rare nowadays idk if I'll call them normal. She mostly does members only karaokes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:48:12 2021 No.6676920 >>6676534 Success in a music career might not always correlate with live viewers. The legendary Ayumi Hamasaki had less than 5000 for her segment. https://playboard.co/en/video/0YtEUzZ8xn4

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:49:20 2021 No.6676961 >>6676534 Kaede's regular numbers are like 1-2k so 9k is already quite buffed. Too bad tho, cuz she's cool.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:49:22 2021 No.6676962 >>6676534 Whats up with her anyways? Does her music sell a lot? I always see her with low viewership but wondered how much her music sells seeing how she's part of a label.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:50:08 2021 No.6676982 >>6676908 >Suisei is my oshi and she does not get 50k for her standard karaokes. Yeah, she's the fucking Cristiano Ronaldo of singing in Hololive. She's not by any chance a good comparison for anything singing related.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:54:26 2021 No.6677148

>>6676962
The usual story anon, she used to get 8-10k alongside mito and rin during their early days, but as soon as better streamers get recruited she started to lag behind (same as rin) and this isn't exclusive to nijis as holos have the same issue with sora and roboco. In the end they are still vtubers (streamers) so singing ability alone is not enough,
As for her music, her solo album sells up to 3-4k copies, so you decide.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:54:45 2021 No.6677159 >>6676920 Makes sense to me. Success in main-stream music is dictated by CD and ticket sales, and they don't have to use Livestreaming as advertising for their brand if they have access to mainstream advertising venues after all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:56:15 2021 No.6677205 >>6676732 Yeah that's the thing. Nijifags are only going to embarrass themselves if they're trying to compare Hololive to Nijisanji.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 12:58:52 2021 No.6677296 >>6677148 Huh, do Sora and Roboco actually have the same issue? I thought the issue for them and others like Aki and Mel is that they failed to capture a larger audience and remained mostly stagnant, rather than drop down from 10k to 1k.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 13:00:44 2021 No.6677353

>>6677296
There's a table that shows the top5 streamer numbers for Niji and Holo from 2018 onward. The old guard like Sora and Robo used to pull higher numbers, but as new members came on their numbers dropped as well even as the total number of viewers increased.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 13:00:50 2021 No.6677360 >>6677296 Believe it or not, there was once a time when Sora actually got 8k viewers for her streams in 2018/2019. I would pull up the VNUMA link for her old stats, but RIP VNUMA.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 13:10:11 2021 No.6677719 >>6677353 >>6677360 Definitely interesting to know, thanks. I wonder if that loss can be recovered if there's continued growth without increasing the number of streamers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 13:11:12 2021 No.6677747 >>6677148 Seems pretty on the low side but then again, Holo's have distorted my perception of success. She seems to be getting gigs in the anime industry so I would say she's doing well for herself regardless.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 13:11:38 2021 No.6677765 >>6677719 Nah, they seem to be satisfied in where they are with their fanbase.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 13:14:01 2021 No.6677825 >>6677765 They are too professional to show any resentment

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 13:17:26 2021 No.6677928 >>6675572 to be more specific, it was 491k

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 13:17:46 2021 No.6677938 >>6677719 She needs to be more involved in streaming for that to be the case... especially when it comes to collabs.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 13:19:32 2021 No.6678002

>>6677719
Firstly, like >>6677765 said, there's no desire to push for a bigger audience. They're comfortable with what they have now and the respect they get as OG senpais. Like Sora gets 15% the audience of Pekora and Marine, but they still kiss the ground she walks on and treat her like a legend.

Secondly, inclining for real is really fucking hard. Streaming is affected by so many factors, like game choice, stream personality, the audience's interest in watching...etc. A lot of the times, we see holos continually get more and more subs, but their viewerbase is the same. It's likely that as more people sub and watch them, an equal amount is falling off and moving onto a different hobby. For a permanent incline, you need to get much more new viewers than you are losing old ones. Most vtubers are happy even without inclining, because retaining what you have is already hard enough.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 13:29:00 2021 No.6678363

>>6678002
Sora in particular was always more focused on doing live shows and music similar to Azki.
Roboco has always just "been there", she seems like the most laid back in Hololive. A lot of the old guard in Hololive seem to be there mostly to have fun with their friends or just do whatever they want in their solo streams.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 13:30:17 2021 No.6678417 >>6674053 I got that ad at least ten times while watching Hololive streams.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 13:31:28 2021 No.6678448 >On 4chan >Not using adblocker Fuck off tourist

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 13:32:49 2021 No.6678490 >>6678417 Meanwhile i got none, maybe because i keep skipping their 1st round of ads or maybe because i actually have traffic now at niji EN channels or maybe its because they think my SEA ass is not worth the ads.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 13:37:36 2021 No.6678647

>>6678363
Until third gen, being a streamer at hololive was being billed as a part time job that you could do in between school or your actual day job. The only actual requirements is that you stream three times a week for at least an hour each, so yes quite a number of the earlier generations do treat it like a part time job or a hobby. It's not until 3rd gen that they really started trying to push them as a proper career

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 13:41:19 2021 No.6678785

>>6678002
Yeah, it's not exactly the goal of every VTuber to be a full-time dedicated VLiver. Their interests may lie elsewhere or they see the money is better in other areas of the entertainment industry. The VTuber industry is still relatively young and they gotta explore their options as virtual entertainers.

Anonymous Sat Jul 17 13:51:26 2021 No.6679097

>>6678363
To be honest, most of them are just chilling, having fun and interacting with their friends. Most of them are lonely and longing for company as well which helps. The fact that they're not forcing themselves to stream is the reason why their stream are so entertaining and fun to watch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 17 14:41:22 2021 No.6680972 >>6679097 It always good to see the girls have fun with what they do. It's part of their initial charm, instead of forcing themselves too much to pleased the fanbase (not that it's wrong or bad).

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