Cover Tokyo stock exchange press conference

[Anonymous No.]

>Yeah, Anycolor made bigger profit because their merch cost is too cheap. Also our merch is usually out of stock while theirs still gathering dust in storage
https://c-eye.co.jp/eq/ipo-eq/66679

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>>46302109
>rather than developing goods like ANYCOLOR, rice field
>rice field
what did yagoo mean by this?

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>>46302109
An important point is that Cover gives more to the talent (noted here), to promote their continued activities.

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WHERE IS MY FUCKING COFFEE FISHMAN? WHERE ARE MY ACRYLIC STANDS? AND WHERE THE FUCK IS MY CARDBOARD?

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Pretty based response

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>>46302361
>An important point is that Cover gives more to the talent (noted here), to promote their continued activities.
Do you have a source as to what the percentage share is?

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>>46302162
he is dumping water in their rice field paddy

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>>46302109
Basically they Sell Cheap shit

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>>46302467
According to Coco:
30% went to Youtube, then from the remainder 70%, 30% goes to Cover. Though they still have to pay income tax for their cut to the government, which is the thing Coco mostly complain about.
Though that was years ago and I might get some of the numbers wrong but it's probably pretty close.

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>>46302361
I LOVE this argument where Holobronies insist that they only care about how well the chuubas are doing, rather than the corpo, then as soon as someone graduates (Coco, Sana) or gets terminated (Rushia), they become among the most anti'd people on this board and you can't even make a thread about them without bootlicking loyalists frothing at the mouth.

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>>46302682
Common wisdom is that the split for superchats and memberships is 30% Youtube, 35% company, 35% talent. We don't have numbers for merch

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>>46302109
>rice field.

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>>46302749
how is this different from niji again

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>>46302829
The difference is mostly in the merch but we don't know the exact details

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>>46302361
EN must not be getting anything then because they don't stream.

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Cover just give the girls too much they could eadily take an 20% extra and bury the competition in profit. Anycolor gives te talent enough while also mking huge profit.
They should learn from them, not go against it.

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>>46302361
>An important point is that Cover gives more to the talent (noted here), to promote their continued activities.
Anon do you just take everything a corpo tells you at face value? Of course Yagoo is going to use marketing language but without revealing the actual split for custom and general merch we don't really know if hololive talents keep most of the money.

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>>46302109
>our merch
This fucking self inserting nigger

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>>46302749
I think the split for merch depend whether the merch is backed by company's money or the vtuber themselves. I think I saw some clips about holo talking about funding some of the merch themselves, with company approval of course. I think it was Kanata? It's an old clip probably from the chink clipper so I can't find it.

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>>46302713
I fucking miss sana though

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>>46302713
Nobody ever cared about Sana. Kaela passed her lifetime subs in 3 months.

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>>46302829
The Holos at least have the opportunity to develop their own merch they get a larger chunk out of so they’re not limited to just releasing the same acrylic stand and button for every anniversary and birthday every other talent in their company does.

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>>46302682
That's SC numbers, not merchandise.

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>>46303016
Probably. It's also possible that the lower cost of production and frequent voice packs make Niji merch just as good for the talent as Holo merch

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>>46303070
>The Holos at least have the opportunity to develop their own merch

So do Nijisanji Livers.

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>>46302379

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>>46303157
Not as easily, especially for EN

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>>46302713
>Coco
always hated her because she brought the Reddit crowd and made EN a thing
>Sana
never gave 2 shits about her
>Rushia
Never watched her, and she would still be here if she wasnt a dumbass and leaked shit to dramatubers

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>>46303157
Examples anon? I thought to do that you have to join a gacha roll first

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>>46302109

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>>46303239
Kek

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>>46302109
Asians cant understand forgoing some profit for a superior product and a much better long-term plan, what else is new?

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>>46302109
Jesus Christ this interview reads as pure cope.
Yagoo did not take well his IPO performance

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>>46302109
i can see that

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>>46303432

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>>46303542
Now post the non-birthday merch without crying

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>>46303241
This was the case for HoloEN as well. Remember how Gura wanted daki merch for awhile but the management keep blocking it? Then the moment she arrived in Japan the merch is insta-approved by JP management probably causing the EN management to seethe?
The conclusion is: fuck EN management. Fire Omega, everyone should just be under JP management.

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>>46303542
chloe really sold a choker?

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>>46303570
what percent they get?

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>>46303609
post it then faggot
>>46303621
more like a dick choker, its intended to be a bracelet or something, but a lot of ppl modified it

[Anonymous No.]

If people buy slop why bother? Coomsoomers don't have brains. The man is commendable for running this as some sort of charity for menhera women though and having the balls to admit it in a press conference, god bless his luck.

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>>46302713
>Coco
Only started to get anti after joining vwhores and going full retard
>Sana
No one fucking gives shit about her, just like she didn't gave shit about Hololive
>Rushia
I only fill pity for this retard. Her termination is her own fault, but it's sad to what state it put her into.

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>>46303570

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>>46302713
As much as I hate Coco(long before the Chink incident) her colleagues speak well about her even after graduation, and the worst that happened to Rushi is that her colleagues pretended she don't exist, which is miles better than how Zaion's colleagues shit talking her after she is fired and unable to speak on her behalf

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>>46303570
There no number, it could be 1-99%, what the points?

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>>46303239
Wtf is this, you could get this in dollar store.

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>>46303609
Oh, so they are only allowed to get one wave of merch personalized? Why not multiple? Holos get for their birthday, debute anny and even when they get new outfits. Dont tell me Niji is that stingy...

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>>46303687
good ol /#/pagtpag historical revisionism
i'm sure all the posts about "creative freedom" and her low nooooooombers before she joined vshojo never happened

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>>46303702
AIEEEE shitting on over Corpos didn't work, the PDF didn't work... Riku... How did you sell the stonks?

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>>46303636
>>46303570
>>46303750
The % Niji streamers get is so miniscule that Pomu borderline advised against it lol
https://files.catbox.moe/33y8k4.mp4

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>>46303799

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>>46302806
you can try to be an idolmaster yagoo but you can never escape the knowledge that your true destiny is a rice farmer

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>>46303239
Aren't frames usually with 45 degree cut corners? That looks super off.

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>>46303991
ok so it's a made up born from a common knowledge statement that voicepacks and streamlabs give the most benefit to a niji streamer? She doesn't mention percentages at all
Why don't you ever admit you have the data and just make shit up

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>>46303991
Pomu borderline advised against it = she only said the order of cuts
nice interpretation you got there
>>46303636
you retard that percentage isnt the percentage the member gets

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It's pretty obvious if you have eyes. Anycolor is pulling the old Disney park scheme. Cutting corners and squeezing blood from the stone with those remaining. We see how they reuse old merch and are staring to even shrink the size of previous merch now. We just aren't at the tipping point where people are getting tired of being nickel and dimed like with Disney yet. As long as they keep creating cheap merch, they'll keep selling it. If you want them to change for the better, you've gotta stop paying them.

>>46302713
Are we really going to pull this card when Zaion and Yugo happened and how they were unpersoned from their company and every graduated vtuber has had their streams erased?

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>>46304331
>every graduated vtuber has had their streams erased
tell me you are a newfag without telling me
Kasumi, Mayuzumi and many others have content on their channel. if you arent terminated you chose if you leave shit or not

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>>46304408
This. Some like Lulu choose to leave it for a period before having it erased, or just part of their content like Warabeda.

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shrink the burger patty
profit go up

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>>46304331
Atleast didney merch can still be creative at times, this is literally kpoop tier merch intended for their kpoop-ish fans which much like kpoop, works extremely well because how apeshit those type of fags are

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I can't wait until Cover starts being even greedier than Anycolor and cutting corners everywhere and holobronies are forced to eat their words. They WILL be forced to after the failed IPO and if they want to sink money into stupid shit like metaverse and a new streaming platform. Fagoo himself said he had no choice but go public or sell the company.

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>>46303157
How can organs develop anything?

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>>46304699
>vtubers are like disney
no they're streamers and youtubers so they're expected to have streamer/youtuber tier merch

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>>46302713
Kson didn't have antis on this board until she joined vshojo. Then she started collecting antis by the boatload because of her recent retarded antics. Of course people are going to make fun that she's fading into irrelevancy.
Sana and Rushia 100% deserve it.

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>>46302713
> then as soon as someone graduates (Coco, Sana) or gets terminated (Rushia), they become among the most anti'd people on this board and you can't even make a thread about them without bootlicking loyalists frothing at the mouth.
As opposed to Nijisanji EN, where as soon as you graduate the other talents start anti'ng you.

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>>46304848
>you should support the talents over the company
so that was a lie

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>>46304837
Fuck no, they should be treated like anime charas, if you treat them like fleshtubers than what's the point of debuting in an additional chara?

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>>46304896
Why number go up but merch quality go down? Can someone explain this to me like I'm a five year old? This is very confusing

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>>46302713
no one in /vt/ are actual fans

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>>46303991
>>46304257
If you consider the production costs and high shipping cost it's pretty obvious that physical merch is a poor way to send money to your oshi. Pic related for HoloEN

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>>46304896
Don't cry when the same happens to holo a few months later. They already rely on the talents funding everything themselves (including MVs, concerts, etc) which is just as greedy as mass producing cheap merch, but they will change this model if necessary.

>>46305052
The merch change already happened last year to JP goods. It's because of the yen going to shit. Yes it's greedy but it's not like it's not a standard practice in business to reduce the size of the goods while keeping the price the same when inflation happens.

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>>46302713
So he says after turning on Zion and pretending she's the antichrist.

Sana love btw

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>>46305273
>y-you will see, hololive will do the same JUST WATCH
damn you are pathetic

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>>46305200
except several holo girls have already said that merch is the major source of their income.

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>>46305273
>themselves (including MVs, concerts, etc) which is just as greedy as mass producing cheap merch
MV's are like that for Nijisanji as well you fucking whopper, do you think Nijisanji funds every MV?

Concerts, personally I don't understand why Holo's have to pay for it, Maybe because they make double or triple from the concert merch but maybe it's for staff/studio costs, I don't know.

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>>46305476
That would be because they sell a lot of it, not because it's an efficient way to send them money

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>>46305350
Sori Garu Gura I needu to taku more cutto from yoru incomu to fundo metaverseru projectu prease undastandu

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>>46305541
>to fundo horostarzu
actually

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>>46305273

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>>46305540
Ok, market expert. With your extensive knowledge, you could become a tripfag investing in dips on /biz/.

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>>46305541
>saying this like i give a fuck about en
he can take 100% from her and i would be fine with that

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>>46302682
Are you ESL?
That's not what Coco said.
She said that 30% goes to google just like everyone else, then of the 70% left over, half of that goes to Cover and the other half goes to the talent.
So the split is 30/35/35.

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>>46302682
>>46303432

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>>46305975
That tells us nothing about the split

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>>46305975
You're truly retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

The Coco thing was for superchat only you fucking virgins.

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>>46305997
>>46303570
>>46306003

[Anonymous No.]

>other company makes more money with merch
>but we don't want to make money with our merch
Geez, I wonder why their IPO flopped.

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>>46306148
>unironically defending nijisanjis jew behavior

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I just love how many fags itt literally forget Holomem paid for their own merch, of the fucking course they would get more because they were personally involved in the design and production of it.
While in Nijisanji, most merch is paid by and produced by the company, there is more like a passive income for livers as they don't pay or even need to do anything with them. Except for birthday merch that they would have to write something and comment on the design, or their personal and anniversary merch that is either designed or produced by themselves, both of which they would get a more significant cut just judging by how they promote it.

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>>46306273
are we supposed to praise cover for making retarded business decisions or something

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>>46303542
Why would you not spam that cheap shit if you see all these otakus covering their bags with dozens of these buttons. The acrylic stand spam that hololive does isn't much better.

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>>46304750
>Hololive is going bankrupt from metaverse guys any day now!!!
Anon what will you eat when they finish building their new big studio and can have more 3D content than ever before?

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>>46306273
> Making money is le bad
Are holobros all berniebros and canadians?

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>>46306418
Honestly who cares if these holofans think cover paying top dollar to a 3rd party to make holo coat hangers and chopsticks and thinks it's a good business decision. They're a lost cause so let them do it

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>>46306273
Yes, giving each talent the same merch for their anniversaries is fine. This is a good baseline for everyone and all talents receive equal treatment.
They still can sell other merch for other occassions or if they get sponsorships. You guys act like they don't sell anything besides the birthday goods.
Tonight I will use my Lamy ice cubes for my whiskey btw.

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>>46305273
but nijisanji got shitty 3D even before IPO, also they cut expenses for what? they don't use that money for projects, they just keep it in the chest

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>>46306399
Yes, because their retarded decision work, talents satisfaction high= fan willing to spend more. Unless riku is your oshi, why would holofag care how much money cover make? Are you really praising riku because he finding the most efficient way to sucking all income from thir organ? Riku have a billion dollar and you organ still wouldn't get their ARlive, sound like a bootlicker to me.

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>>46306496
>>46306563
>Yes yes Anykara, milk me dry more! I love it when you buy another yacht and only give your livers scraps
Are you people real?

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>>46306399
Yes, because their retarded decision work, talents satisfaction high= fan willing to spend more. Unless riku is your oshi, why would holofag care how much money cover make? Are you really praising riku because he finding the most efficient way for sucking all income from his organ? Riku have a billion dollar and you organ still wouldn't get their ARlive, you sound like a bootlicker to me. Also cover already got their money from IPO, why would they care about day trader fighting among each other? They not gonna sell more stock.

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>>46306601

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>>46306705
memeing is all you can do when you've never proven to have the percentages to have a proper discussion
good luck with the ipo

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>>46306745
So now Holofags knows stock market is a secondary market and doesn't mean shit.
I thought you fags love those daily Anycolor stock price bait thread

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>>46306844

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>>46302984
It would be absolutely retarded to lie about this though, since it is on record and your talents know if it is true, you would eventually open yourself up to a lawsuit from either the talents or the investors.

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>>46306883
>we dindu nuffin

[Anonymous No.]

None of you were on Twitter when Cover went public? Nips were absolutely shitting on their financial reports, people were saying that comparing Cover to Anycolor was like comparing an indie game studio to Nintendo.

[Anonymous No.]

Cover stock is a value stock, if you believe Anycolor's MCAP at 4x that of Cover's is fair value then you believe Cover is a 4-bagger and will rise to parity.

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>>46306988
But Covet's PER is two times more than Anycolor

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>>46306987
>opinion
>opinion (japanese)

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>>46306496
>its fine if they make the merch worse and take most of the money from my oshi as long the company makes more money
there is literally no reason to defend that, but you still do, why?

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>>46306601
>>46306749
Their 3D is fine. They have their own AR studio while Cover doesn't (the new one they're getting is just regular 3D right). The only thing hololive has over them are better 3D models. 3D model quality varies a lot within Niji like that one which is shitty because it's an early one.

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>>46307078
That makes them a 10bagger, since Yagoo is a meme man like Elon Musk and he loves writing off expenditure as investments and collecting tax credits for his tech.

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>>46302162
Welcome to the ricefields mother fucker

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>>46302162

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>>46302713
I'm sorry you were saying?

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>>46305273
> if x happens
> when x happens
> x will happen
> once x happens
> eventually x will happen
> can't wait until x happens

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>>46307277
And you gonna ignore the fact that Pomu still thanked Yugo in her 3D and every member talked about Yugo just fine. Nor anyone in /NijiEN/ ever turn against her for being U-San.

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>>46307212
now post riku working on ricefields.

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>>46307362
And that's why she got stealth suspended for going against the company line

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>>46307364
Riku is born in a rich family, never had to do hard work in his life

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>>46307277
It was just Alban who did that, not the company. Same thing with Maria obscuring Zaion in the cover with her.

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>>46307483
>only alban
>second image is from Uki
The absolute state of nijiniggers

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>>46302713
no one hate delutaya anon. retarded nijifags

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>>46307512
the cope is higher than meth at this point

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>>46302109
MetaFlop Cope

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>>46307512
Don't watch Uki to know where that background is from but Fulgur still has Yugo in the background.

[Anonymous No.]

Stop talking about Sana you fucking retards
You’re unironically making me miss my oshi when I just want to forget about her

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>>46307417
And when did said "stealth suspension" happen?

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>>46307779
Remember that "break" she took if Feb?

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>>46303372
Taka from Ex-ID literally had some the other day. And some of the Ex-KR girls had some after the merge.

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>>46307823
The one weeks after she talked about Yugo on stream? The one where she decided to move the break days herself? The one where she still participated on stream in collabs despite being "on break"?
Remember, with Zaion's stealth suspension, it was immediate, she didn't choose the days, and she couldn't participate in any on-stream activities.

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>>46307891
>The one where she decided to move the break days herself?
And you actually believe that?

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>>46307364

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>>46303137
Lmao

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>>46306567
It's bizzare how they only bring up the birthday merch. EN had Valentines merch just last month, idk how anons forgot about it when they were using it to shitpost about Finana having a ring.

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>>46308032
>PARASOCIAL FUCKS
>but also don't forget to buy my valentine day wedding ring, you can put it on your finger and pretend we're married

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>>46307920
Yes, because she chose to delay her break. Do you actually believe management would allow them the freedom to choose when they would be "stealth suspended"? What kind of punishment is that?
Not to mention, her VOD is still public and unedited, and the credits she gave Yugo are still in her 3D debut's Youtube description. If they aren't allowed to mention Yugo, the VOD would have been privated and edited, and the credits removed from the YT description.

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>>46302109
this thread is just #fags coping

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>>46308083
Finana is a lost sheep i don't think anyone would argue with that. hangs around with the wrong "friends" and is easy to manipulate.

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>>46308083
Not like she had much say in the matter. Management is in charge of who is featured in the merch and what the merch is.

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>>46302713
Why are holofags like this when holomem keep honoring graduated holos for a long time after their departure?

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>>46308143
In other words, she is treacherous.

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>>46308083
You ignored my point, but glad you acknowledge they get merch that isn't just the generic birthday goods.

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>>46308130
Coping of what? That holos are paid more?

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>>46308164
Why are you falling for nijinigger lies?

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>>46308201
You can't claim anyone is paid more without knowing how much each streamer is actually making. Superchats can maybe give you a guess, but its still just a part of the complete puzzle. Regardless none of them are poor.

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>>46307923
>yfw the Holo-Niji tribal faggotry was a class struggle all along

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>>46308297
What lies?

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>>46308164
Rushia...

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>>46302162
Yagoo read too much Vagabond, he's gonna start a samurai dojo next to the Hololive office next.

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>>46308470
No one said anything bad about Rushia outside of Flare's awkward attitude that she later explained. She's still on the twiiter banners and stream intros of sankisei

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>>46308331
Mysterio said on stream he paid 22K in taxes, so either he took home about £70K (which is less than he'd have got from a 50% split of just superchats) or he's committing tax fraud

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This is the interesting page. Look at the huge dip in their margins after their revenue blew up.
They've put all their money back into the company and the first holoexpo seems to have been basically non-profit. They're only starting to build back up their margins in this FY.

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>>46308580
Superchats aren't a 50% split. 30% goes to Susan, and 35% goes to Anycolor.

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>>46308777
Susan graduated

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>>46308797
After Mysterio paid her 30%. She literally took the money and ran

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>>46308777
Yes, that was based on the commonly assumed 50-50 split after youtube take their 30%. Either their split is actually much worse than that, or he lied about the amount, or he lied to the taxman (very very bad idea, his bank would snitch on him).

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>>46307846
Yeah it's a monthly booth gacha thingy, same system used to determine 3.0 débuts

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>>46308331
Didn't someone leaked holo and niji merch sales from their shops just a few days ago?

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>>46308964
Nijisanji livers are not employees of Anycolor, they are contractors, meaning that they are self-employed. In the UK, income tax for people who are self-employed have to be submitted to the government on a quarterly basis. That 22k is probably what Mysterio owes for that quarter, not the full year.

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>>46309066
He said it was for the year. It being quarterly would also mean he'd got paid more than 100% of his channel's revenue which obviously wouldn't make any sense

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>>46309109
You're omitting Streamlabs and Voicepacks, which have a much larger cut for the liver than Superchats. Plus merch at an unknown cut (which, by nature of him being Luxiem, probably still is a good amount of dosh).

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>>46302682
thats from sc retard. Most of of the holo merch are self-invested and they keep the vast majority of the profit

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>>46308032
They simply don't care and pick whatever fits their narrative.

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>>46302713
nijifags are fucking delusional huh

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>>46309172
That'd require about 20% of his income to be things other than superchats. I honestly think it's more likely he just can't do math and gave the wrong number on stream, but nevertheless, it's hard to make the numbers make sense unless their cut for something is worse than commonly believed.
The only other example I'm aware of is Lamy, whose taxes work out to her earning ¥230 million in 21-22.

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>>46302109
This scares the holobronies . Nijisanji will be more dominant with more males waves. EN3? jP7? Kek 2 years delayed. Whereas more livers means more people gets to spend their money on

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>>46302109
Nijisanji has bigger share on merch lmao. Where’s the inferior merch? >>46309262 things like this are standard niji merch and these look better than any holoshit merch

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>>46308580
Without seeing his tax returns it's going to be impossible to know what that 22K was referring to

[Anonymous No.]

Why do holofans think the company producing the merch themselves is a bad thing? It's basically free money for the talent. Funding the merch and designing the merch yourself puts you at risk. What if it doesn't sell or doesn't make enough profit to offset the losses?

[Anonymous No.]

Livers earns more bronies accept it. So fans should support buying birthday merch because they get a bigger cut. I don’t know how it’s different from company to company

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>>46309402
what are you smoking retard? Those plushies look like shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>46309539
They're cute

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>>46309402
Don't cherrypick anonchama. Holo also has plushies now.
Also
>>46303542

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>>46309317
Niji does a lot of voicepacks. Something like every 2 months. Hayama is always promoting her pack so it's hard not to notice. Oh but your name won't be read out and you can't brag about it on discord.

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>>46309488
>holofans think the company producing the merch themselves is a bad thing
No one says that retard, Holos also get merch produced by Cover so they also get the "free money"
>Funding the merch and designing the merch yourself puts you at risk.
The límited sets always sold out in minutes and they get a huge cut out of it.

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>>46302713
Well if you compare, getting anti'd by board retard (often nijiniggers falsflagging BTW let's be honest) it's nowhere near worse than getting anti'd by your FORMER GENMATE nijiniggers.

[Anonymous No.]

It’s funny because nijisanji lurks /here/. Someone got a hold of merch data?
>patches it
Someone talk shit against nijisanji?
> Niji defense force deployed
Someone fucked up a twitter post?
>ignored twitter comments
>some tard posted it /here/
>post deleted immediately

Hope anons aware we have literal paid Niji shills here

[Anonymous No.]

>>46309821
>paid
how much?

[Anonymous No.]

>>46309488
If it's cheap acrylic things that's very short term and you risk fatigueing your market

[Anonymous No.]

Retards, acrylic stand is standard otaku/weaboo /koreaboo merch. It’s not unique to holo or niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>46309488
>fans spend millions in SC to their oshi
>but a decent and well made collectable is too much of a risk, it might not sell
how the fuck

[Anonymous No.]

Core of the message is that, holos gets to participate in merch development and such and gets bigger cuts on merch because Yagoo thought it will give more profits to the talent and support their activities. That’s literally all you need to know about this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>46310068
The core of the message is that it leads to less merchandise being available since they're all part of limited time made-to-order merch runs

[Anonymous No.]

>>46310068
>because Yagoo thought it will give more profits to the talent and support their activities
LMAO it's because Cover is shit at business and doesn't like taking risks themselves. That means if the merch sales flop it's all on the talent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46303617
>block Gura from getting a Daki because "oh you look underage, problematic, yadda yadda". Even trying to use a 1M wish won't get it through.
>despite being CANONICALLY underage, Shion and Luna could get dakis no problem
It's a perfect example of EN management being bullshit.

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>>46310104
Specialized merch anon, not run off the mill merch. You can’t pump out specialized merch unless they have unlimited production capability and capacity. Which they don’t. So limited time is done because the different facilities are needed per merch.
It’s basically customized vs Standardized / family or chef owned restaurant vs McDonald’s

[Anonymous No.]

>>46310233
again with the
>if
about something that never happened
also
>>46309983

[Anonymous No.]

>>46310274
That's what I said. That leads to less money since someone like me who only got into a vtuber after the preorders were closed had to buy their merch on ebay

[Anonymous No.]

>>46309821
It was patched just after someone posted that merch data on /Nijien/ kek is so fucking obvious they have someone /here/

[Anonymous No.]

>>46309402
>>46309262

[Anonymous No.]

>>46310326
I sent Anycolor a tip about it after it got posted in /NijiEN/

[Anonymous No.]

>>46310316
It seems Cover is gonna start doing mass produced merch like Niji but the talents are gonna still have that made-to-order merch produced by themselves for their birthday

[Anonymous No.]

>>46310362
>>46309591
https://shop.nijisanji.jp/s/niji/item/list?ima=3513&tag=TAG_161
https://shop.nijisanji.jp/s/niji/item/list?ima=3531&tag=TAG_130
Niji has both plushies and little finger puppet, if you bring up JP

[Anonymous No.]

>>46302109
Your attempts at paraphrasing him are really awful. He's saying that Nijisanji produces a lot more merch while Hololive has only focused on special occasions so far. And that Nijisanji always has stuff you can buy while Hololive stuff is all made to order then gone.

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>>46310362
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000142.000057822.html
Also a reminder, the picture you used was actually a collab merch, which normally means the revenue will be spilt between the actual producer and Cover, mostly goes to the actual producer.

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>>46302713
>impressionable kids will take this nijiggerpost seriously and believe in it

[Anonymous No.]

>>46310777
Like Hololive from what I see it's basically just birthday merch and voice and maybe anniversary? Then Nijisanji they invent bullshit reasons to sell merch all the time. You've got birthdays, calendar holiday's, just here's some cool outfits no reason, anniversaries, debuts, music and concert goods, random ass shit like pop-up fashion shops and jewelry, the volume of merch coming out of the two is incomparable. It's like a torrent from Nijisanji and a stream from Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

Money

[Anonymous No.]

>>46310945
HoloEN has had a ton of random merch lately

[Anonymous No.]

>>46310945
Jesus Christ that reminds me they even tried to sell "half year anniversary" merch

[Anonymous No.]

>>46310978
No one in Nijisanji is making more money than Suisei, she would be wasted like Toko if she was a niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>46310985
Random merch that's licensed or random merch Cover is making? I'm talking about merch Anycolor and Cover is actually doing not the licensed stuff mainly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46311187
Official merch for Christmas, Valentine's Day, new outfits, 3D debuts, anniversaries. It's a lot of merch when you can't combine together for shipping

[Anonymous No.]

>>46310978

[Anonymous No.]

even gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>46303991
Meanwhile in HoloEN, Ame said that the best way to support her is through buying her merch

[Anonymous No.]

>>46311338
That's because she feels guilty about accepting money without giving anything in return.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46303372
The last time Nijisanji try to develop their own merch line, they almost got sued for plagiarism from Japan big brand name company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46303991
Dunno why people ignore that voice packs are also merch when they post this? It's digital merch, it gets classified as the same thing as physical merch on Anycolor and Covers revenue reports.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46304750
Cover share price starting at 750 per share.
The 2000 per share are graded by Stock Exchange and it's overprice as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46311452
People that post shit like this just prove that the only shit they know about Nijisanji is negative stuff they read here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46302713

[Anonymous No.]

>>46311464
Maybe you have a problem with comprehensive reading, that's fine.
In revenue reports, yes. But you don't know what's the difference in split with vtubers between voice packs and physical merch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46311653
>It's ALWAYS nijiniggers
Doesn't surprise me. Not after Enna encouraged her viewers to visit Nyfco. I fucking bet most of niji livers post in that shithole too, along with their retarded fans.

[Anonymous No.]

No Wonder Roboco bought a house

https://youtu.be/4Qd27DP3n3s

[Anonymous No.]

>>46311662
Of course not my point was you can really make blanket statements about merch when it comes to Niji because some of it a their best source of income while other parts aren't.

[Anonymous No.]

Even the fans know they’re being scammed but they’ll buy it anyway. Goes to show what can brand loyalty do, in any case, nijisanji turns a lot more profit but holos individually gets more % share compared to niji because they’re their own brand and does most of the stuff themselves/with their involvement . Can we all agree on that? Or you nijinigs still want to insist that the livers has higher % share?

[Anonymous No.]

>>46311800
People with $50K annual salaries also buy houses you can't glean much information from it without seeing the place

[Anonymous No.]

>>46310978
Using Suisei as an argument is cheating. Her stuff goes for like 10 times that of other holos on the open market

[Anonymous No.]

Why are people pretending that a company supporting its workers and crewting a comfortable and perhaps even enviable work environment is a bad thing? Why must everything be in blind and senseless pursuit of the highest possible profits?

[Anonymous No.]

>>46304257
>>46304256
Seriously??? Idk if you anons are playing dumb or what. But let me explain, her first was streamlabs because they don't take a cut unlike YT, 10000000%, she gets 50/50 cut from streamlabs donos, same with voice packs 50/50, because the talents themselves need to exert effort for the recording etc. Next, superchats, this is easy, YT takes the initial 30%, then 35/35 cut for the remaining 70%. Then even lower than that, merch. In no world, you can't expect them to get a big cut for merch when all they have are Nijisanji's generic mass-produced merch. No effort required for them, no nothing. Come on, use your common sense, stop being a corpo bootlicker

[Anonymous No.]

>>46311935
In todays market? Fuck no you're not unless you're buying it in some shithole like Thailand or rural Tennessee

[Anonymous No.]

>>46311935
You can’t even have a room with a studio booth or apartment in Tokyo with that money anon…

[Anonymous No.]

>>46311995
Because people arguing that are not arguing in good will for their oshi but that they are in the more "successful" tribe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46311995
Because nijisanji is winning in that department so they have to push the narrative anon. Basically, nijisanji is their oshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>46312023
Even for Hololive it's going to be hard to end up with 35% or even 50% profit that goes to the talent after you include the shipping costs

[Anonymous No.]

and miko buy a new car
https://shop.geekjack.net/collections/sakura-miko

https://youtu.be/ckeEY4Ly4Lo

[Anonymous No.]

>>46312107
Why would you factor in shipping at all when that doesn't even go to Cover. It goes in and back out.

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>>46311911
I don't think anyone was ever claiming that you got a higher percentage share of merch sales in Nijisanji there's absolutely no way of knowing that. Unless someone in Hololive specifically states the percentage they get you can't really make an accurate comparison. For Niji we know for a fact they get 50% on digital merch (voices), Anycolor outright publicly stated this, and they say that and streamlabs are their best source of income percentage wise so they're both 50% going to the members. Then superchat because YouTube takes 30% is lower amount going to them because 50/50 after YouTube takes 30% is lower it's 35% going to the member. Then for merch it's something less than 35% of the price you pay that's going to end up in their pockets but what amount nobody knows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46311994
>Using Suisei as an argument is cheating
but Nijis used to shit on her

[Anonymous No.]

>>46312202
Because it's still money spent by the viewer towards the talent. People are referencing Pomu's statement about the best way to send money directly to your oshi and it makes sense to add the shipping costs in that case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46311935
No one can afford a house in Japan on that unless they are buying in a Non Non Biyori place.

[Anonymous No.]

People aren't considering the fact that cheap goods run the risk of cannibalizing your own market.
The fan's pockets aren't infinite. If you're selling too many generic items they might be less willing to spend once the custom anniversary merch comes around. Also their merch production capability isn't unlimited. Some resources will obviously go into the production of the generic merch so less manpower is left over for managing custom orders.
The effect is arguably low though, I'd assume most people have a brain and simply don't buy cheap stuff if they cannot afford it and save up for the good stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46312458
Yep, if cover does this shit, yes it’s gonna turnout more profit to cover but less for their girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46304819
Livers can devolop cyrrhosis

[Anonymous No.]

>>46312281
>shitting on her
Anon, that post is basically saying she deserves to be more popular, or at least that's how I'm reading it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46312107
You are wrong. In fact, in Hololive, you can argue that the talents themselves get the much bigger cut than Cover, because they are involved from its planning, designing, and they even FUND their own merch
>https://youtu.be/KwYsDj3SASw
Yes, you read that right. Lamy funded the production of her own merch. No way in hell she would get less than 50/50 cut from Cover for that

[Anonymous No.]

>>46312458
Also it removes the fomo effect. These days if holos don't put their shit as made to order then it sells out in minutes. Because everyone knows this they will want in too and it just feeds itself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46312684
It reads like a tongue in cheek "she'd be better off in niji" but honestly with Suisei you can't know. I have the feeling that she'd be able to push wherever she went as long as they are willing to invest in her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46312694
As was mentioned earlier, in the financial year that clip came from, Lamy got paid ¥230MM ($1.6 million US)

[Anonymous No.]

>>46312684
Yes, but if Hololive is your oshi, you can't wrap your head around a post that shits on Hololive but supports Suisei.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46312694
If I were to buy Fauna's merch I'd have to pay $267. If I were to spend that money on streamlabs, my oshi would get ~$133. The production costs and Cover's cut would have to combine into no more than 10% for merch to be better than a streamlabs donation. That's all I was saying

[Anonymous No.]

>>46312458
The thing is as well Niji has lots of members so if they pump out all these weird merches with very little pretense they can just rotate the members around so it isn't hitting the same fanbase pockets constantly. Like if you look at the stuff NijiEN gets they have on group of maybe 5 boys and 5 girls for valentines, then another group of 5 girls and guys getting merch for white day, it rotates around. There might be merch for every occasion but your oshi isn't in the merch getting group every occasion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46312908
You know that shipping would have been $20 in 2022, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>46312856
She's the one that really wanted to get into hololive, to the point of going back after getting rejected and literally bullying them into taking her

[Anonymous No.]

>>46303617
Rrat time.
>Gura's manager is one of the classic shitty Cover managers.
>deny collabs woth JPs
>deny dakimakura
>Gura sneezes they force her on a hiatus
>brow beats Gura until she doesn't care about streaming anymore meanwhile Ame, Mori and Kiara are able to do all kinds of wild shit
>goes to Japan
>meets with Jenma and Kiara
>Kiara the introvert whisperer works out the issue and explains to Jenma
>Jenma calmly tells Gura's Mane "We are running a business here and cunny makes money."
>Gura Mane sufficiently tard wrangled Gura is allowed to release a daki and interact with JP more freely

[Anonymous No.]

>>46312908

[Anonymous No.]

>>46312908
Yeah but most people whould not just give free money for nothing. Merch sales probably have a much lower barrier for entry, thus numerically making more money for your oshi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46313113
What's the image supposed to convey?

[Anonymous No.]

If all the Hololive merch is sold out, maybe they should produce more?

[Anonymous No.]

>>46313136
It was already proven in the IPO. Merch alone is tied with SC, membership, and YT ad revenue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46304928
>you must support a person unconditionally, even when they make terrible, self-destructive decisions
That's not how any of that works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46313160
she dont need your money

[Anonymous No.]

>>46313286
You know "sold out" means that the pre-order period is over and nothing more, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>46313230
That's exactly what yagoo said he's gonna do, did you click OP link?

[Anonymous No.]

>>46313230
They can't, statistics. It is much better to be short than overproduce and be in the negatives. Plus, since it was already discussed here, some merch are funded by the chuubas themselves, it is one thing to risk Cover's money but when it's your money is on the line, just undershoot it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46312908
Huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>46313230
With all those random things they produce? They’d unironically lose money. Unless they want to do mass produced shit, they can’t maintain a product line

[Anonymous No.]

>>46313566
You're missing 2 items

[Anonymous No.]

>>46312908
Now you know why HoloENs aren't that reliant on streaming like NijiENs. Nijis need to stream for that streamlab money, Holos need to do a shilling merch stream once a month

[Anonymous No.]

>>46313445
Yes, Yagoo said they will take more risk and try to have bigger item stocks in the future. But what I meant is they should just do more "re-runs" of the items that sold out already. The only ones making profit from sold out items are shops that sell used items.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46313620
this one

[Anonymous No.]

>>46313736
Even though it's one of their best percentage wise I doubt it's what they make the majority of their money off for any of them. Lots of people still superchat instead. Then there's stuff like membership and so on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46313804
>used
Is that why my suisei doll I got from eBay smells like cum?

[Anonymous No.]

>>46314189
burn it!
>unless youre a homo

[Anonymous No.]

>>46314189

[Anonymous No.]

>>46302109
>we are retarded
>we lack marketing skills
>our sales department is not making products
>we only sell products in specific events
why would you say to investors that your company sucks?

[Anonymous No.]

>Cover was listed on the Tokyo Stock Exchange Growth on the 27th. The opening price was 1,750 yen, 133.33% higher than the public offering price of 750 yen, and closed at 1,400 yen.
>What do you think of today's opening price?
CFO Kaneko: In a difficult market, the growth market is about 10 billion yen, and the floating rate is less than 25%. I dared to configure it with an IPO. Therefore, I thought that it was a difficult environment for the stock price to rise more than other brands, but the stock price rose significantly beyond my expectations.
Can a /biz/fag explain this? Their stock is valued higher than they expected even though it dropped from their opening?

[Anonymous No.]

>Cover was listed on the Tokyo Stock Exchange Growth on the 27th. The opening price was 1,750 yen, 133.33% higher than the public offering price of 750 yen, and closed at 1,400 yen.
>What do you think of today's opening price?
>CFO Kaneko: In a difficult market, the growth market is about 10 billion yen, and the floating rate is less than 25%. I dared to configure it with an IPO. Therefore, I thought that it was a difficult environment for the stock price to rise more than other brands, but the stock price rose significantly beyond my expectations.
Can a /biz/fag explain this? Their stock is valued higher than they expected even though it dropped from their opening?

[Anonymous No.]

>>46315095
>tfw we can’t use the smol indie company meme anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>46311702
>Not after Enna encouraged her viewers to visit Nyfco
The fuck? When?

[Anonymous No.]

>>46315862
I believe it was more like flippantly making clear she is aware of the existence of websites like that and doesn't have a fuck or some shit like that rather than being like yeah everyone go to this exact site.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46312814
anon that post is proof she was a failure without the holobox

[Anonymous No.]

>>46313059
This almost makes sense. I'm impressed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46311556
One thing that few people understand, especially when they're tribalfagging like this, is that IPOs generally lose a lot of price in the first few years.

Now, and this is important, you also have to account for how stocks are distorted by govs. I won't go too deep on this here because this is /biz/ stuff, tl;dr: stocks are artificially inflated by the government and roughly every single one of them is going down because they are slowing down the printer ever so slightly.


So expect stocks to go down. Now and for the foreseeable future. Unsurprisingly, this goes for anycolor and cover much the same.

[Anonymous No.]

You can tell Cover's IPO was a total blunder by the seething from this disgusting yagoo sucking monkey

[Anonymous No.]

>>46317629
Anyone got the stock data from the first week when Anycolor went IPO?

I imagine there was a massive stock sell-off causing a dip until it leveled out.

The reason Cover went public is because investors wanted to sell their positions. Any time you have a shit ton of people desperate to sell, price goes down. Econ 101.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46310985
Cover's no stranger to copying AnyColor so that's not surprising

[Anonymous No.]

>>46320486
Lockout period of 6 months for Niji also we don’t use logic and reasoning here

[Anonymous No.]

>>46303617
Fire Omega after an apology to all EN talents that were affected YES I'M TAKING IT PERSONAL BECAUSE THAT INDIVIDUAL SUSPENDED MY OSHI AND FORCED LEADER TO SAY "I support the cause"

[Anonymous No.]

>>46320486
>I imagine there was a massive stock sell-off causing a dip until it leveled out.
That's what happened on Dec. 5th. Anycolor had a lock-up expire for half a year preventing any VC from cashing out early. And as long as it expired, it dropped from 12000 yen to around 7000 yen, then dipped further into 4000 yen territory for months because their Q2 didn't achieve significant growth. And this board shitposted about it for months without realizing their initial offering price was around 1400 yen
Cover's lock-up was set to expire as long as the price hit 1.5 times more than 750 yen, which expired on the first day, and then Holofags start taking initial offering price as a thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46303617
EN management thinks that the EN viewers follow some sort of western morality code when in fact the audience is very receptive to the JP morality code

[Anonymous No.]

>>46302109
>all of the newfags who haven't read the Cover financial report
>the talents are the ones paying for their own fucking merch packs
>Holofags continue to live in denial
Yeah no fucking wonder Anycolor has been racking the Ws this week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46315862
she was talking about the way she looks irl and said that if people want to see it, they should "check the doxx site".

[Anonymous No.]

>>46302713
I miss Tia most tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>46302109
They really are headed to bankruptcy aren't they?

[Anonymous No.]

>>46302713
Never let them memoryhole the fact that they attacked both Rushia and Aloe into being fired. And have on numerous occasions tried to get others in their company fired but failed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46322576
>thinks stock price determines a companies profits

roru, rumao even.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46302109
WELL TELL ME WHY YOU BLEW ALL OF YOUR FUCKING FUTURES ON THE FUCKING METAVERSE FAGOO? I HOPE YOU ENJOY BEING HOMELESS OR IN JAIL FOR FRAUD

[Anonymous No.]

>>46322463
>merch packs

[Anonymous No.]

>>46322576
You do realise that once the company has sold stocks to people on the stock market, the stocks turns into magic the gathering cards that (unless they pay dividends) that collectors buy from each other

[Anonymous No.]

>>46322822
Yes? Kiara mentioned she had to pay for it out of her own personal bank account. As do all of the JPs

[Anonymous No.]

>>46304750
HOLY SHIT THATS AN EMBARRASSING FIRST WEEK ON THE MARKET
Yeah they're dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>46311556
500 now! Not even 1 week!
>>46306464
Metaverse projects cost more than Cover's total net worth right now, brony.
>>46304896
Common Anycolor W

[Anonymous No.]

>>46305273
My favorite part is that it literally says in the financial report that the talents fund everything and bronies are still averse to facts because in Niji you literally aren't given a single bit of cuts on merch and lives at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46306601
WHERES COVER 3D AR BITCH?

[Anonymous No.]

>>46323089
I don’t know any holo using the term merch pack.
And them investing on their own merch is bad because? It means they get the profits. Did you read it? They did that to support activities because it’s more profitable for the girls, not the company. Or do you not want to take the words of the CEO of the company as true because in nijitown they only get a measly amount? And let’s not talk about the difference in quality and variety too

[Anonymous No.]

>>46305476
Too bad it's a 30% cut to pay for their own where there's no cut at all in Niji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46305540
Pretty much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46323587
Are you arguing that Nijis get a 100% on their merch revenue?

[Anonymous No.]

>>46323564
ITS IN YOUR FUCKING FINANCIAL REPORT THAT THE TALENTS PAY FOR THEIR OWN MERCH SALES AND ARE CUT AN ADDITIONAL 30% FROM ALL MERCH EARNINGS

[Anonymous No.]

>>46323697
Yes? It's in their financial report.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46322576
Any day now nijisisters!

[Anonymous No.]

>>46323784
Prove you're not just illiterate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46305701
yikes

[Anonymous No.]

>>46323784

[Anonymous No.]

>>46323697
LMAO LOOK AT THIS RETARD

[Anonymous No.]

>>46323726
So it’s a 70% on talent / 30% on cover on profits. Nijishitty probably gets lower than 50% lmao. Considering blackcolor keeps most of the revenue themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46323697
They unironically fucking do though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46323784
Smartest nijinigger everone lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>46324425
It's the other way around. And Nijisanji is 100% Liver, 0% Anycolor.
I know who the black company is, my fragile Holobrony newfag friend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46324426
>don't own the IP
>don't invest funds to the production of the goods
>don't do anything but have your face (which you do not own) on it
>get full or almost full revenue
You only need 80 IQ to figure out this can't be true.
Post the financial report that states this, anon and prove you don't just have a grade schooler's reading comprehension.

[Anonymous No.]

Stop being gaslighted by the nijiniggers.
It should be the other way around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46324659
lmao look at this retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>46324503
Yes nijinig, I’m pretty sure that’s true in some alternate reality somewhere

[Anonymous No.]

Ok, looks like a bottled thread with this timeloop. Or just the nijishill on overtime

[Anonymous No.]

>>46324908
Both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46322576
No but they are never catching up to Niji at this rate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46324503
>Anykara and Riku are business geniuses look at how much more revenue they are making over Cover!!
>Anykara is a non profit charity organization guys the livers get all the revenue!
Which one is it, nijisis?

[Anonymous No.]

>>46305102
>Aloe
Sure, she is at least friends with Nene
>Coco
Yeah, she is friends with everyone
>Sana
eh.. I guess she still talks with Ina...
>Rushia
Come on, she would try to burn down the fucking expo while everyone is inside

[Anonymous No.]

>>46304928
>Support the talent no matter how wrong they are
Litral kson bullshit kys vshitshitter

[Anonymous No.]

>>46305540
They do sell a lot of them we have leaks from the holoshop but they still get the majority share cover itself said so in there recent document
Also most merch is self funded so they get more cut of it they also get a cut on company produces merch abide much less.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46306399
I watch vtubing for the vtubers and i am very happy if they are getting more money i imagine they are too

[Anonymous No.]

>>46306987
Lol lmao like nijiniggers actually know about Japanese people you retards don't even know "livers" of your jp branch

[Anonymous No.]

>>46308739
They earned a lot in the expo the merch sales are genuanly crazy suisei alone sold like 3 million dollers worth of merchandise in last 3 months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>46329860
>Thinking that's an own
Nigga there's over 150 JP members. You guys don't even know your male branch and there's only like 20 of them. You're a more reliable source of information with that in mind? kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>46311303
Reminder that Dino Gura absolutely crushed goods sales numbers of anything they'd ever sold up to that point.