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>>28879639sex
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>90,186: Gwelu (Nijisanji)>66,018: Matsuri (Hololive)>58,070: Hayato (Nijisanji)>47,903: Pekora (Hololive)>32,122: Gwelu (Nijisanji)>22,309: Korone (Hololive)>18,929: Koyori (Hololive)>18,612: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>18,296: Tsukasa (Indie)>16,147: Subaru (Hololive)>15,918: Iroha (Hololive)>13,693: Mysta (Nijisanji)>12,755: Koyori (Hololive)>12,261: Nose (VSPO)>11,332: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)>10,014: Shion (Hololive)
>>28879639Kizuna Ai looking mother fucker
>>28879639Is that Matsuri?
>>28879639>sexy fan art alreadybased
>>28879753AI-chan has big boobs.
This one?
>>28879760Yes, that's a picture of us before she went live, had to give her a really good warm up in her thighs, something might leak but don't mind
>>28879870Holosummer when?
>>28879896SOON
>>28879753>Kizuna Ai mother fuckerI would
https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1550555127823880192Will Miko fight Pekora over Koyori?
Archive diving this was the closest post of Myth subs to debut. Took the Tempus one last night. Myth hit 60-70k just before Mori's debut, for Tempus anywhere near 60k would be a success.
>>28879708Don't worry Holobros, Gura will stream today and she will get the gold for us
>>28879940Miko is Koyori's oshi right? but she's a numberfag... tough decision
Oh, Vstats finally got some updates.
>>28879940Rust is fucking bullshit, I hope real yab happened
>>28880014I missed vnuma...
>>28879365But they are not HolostarsJP. This debut have been way more integrated into the general HoloEN audience than holostars had with holoJP. They have gotten signal boosted by several HoloENs. Tempus got to the front page of reddit, and in a few days has had more posts about them than starsJP has since the sub started. There have been more /vt/ posts about them than all the stars posts too. For a lot of viewers Tempus IS part of the hololive brand in a way Stars never even got close to in JP.Im not saying that they will get as big as Myth or Council of course, I just dont understand this "oh if they get 2k CCV it will be the biggest miracle in vtubing!!!"
>>28879958There it is. The Big Downfall
>>28880052fuck off omega
>>28879639Welcome home, Matsuri
>>28879958DON'T MAKE ME BELIEVE
>>28879958tempus will be more successful than council
>>28879958>>28878883I saw Magni Dezmond at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to mag with him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing all his hands shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifty Milky Ways in his hands without paying.The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any maglectrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by magging really loudly.
If the new HoloStars are at least bigger than one of the Voltaction guys after a month, the one who's now a 3view, is that good enough to say they mogged Voltaction?
>>28880239If the new tempus boys average higher in a month than Voltaction does then yeah you could say they mogged them.
>>28880090
If they break 5k ccv at the debut, it will be the great achievement for holostars. That will be written in the history of vtubing as The Big Turn.
>>28879958What about IRyS and Council
>>28879958
>>28880331Feel like Astel will be the next Holo to graduate
>>28879958It's just not happening.
>>28880395Hey, fuck you
>>28879958Not really comparable since the EN vtubing market has grown a lotNiji wave6 2 days and 5 hours before debut for the sake of comparison
>>28880090why are those jewtubers doing better than these fellas? even those guys are 3views. I thought these guys were backed by Sony no?
>>28880486Fungus..
>>28880052Yeah them being 4views won’t be a miracle, if anything it’s what I’m expecting. But it would be a good step forward for Stars as a brand, not everyone is blessed to have their brand explode from the get go like HoloEN did
>>28880052It's fucking irrelevant anon, only a fraction of the Holo fanbase that watches streams even pays attention to those things, and the main HoloEN girl giving them attention is Mori while the rest gave them a follow or a retweet at bestThis will just result in memers posting magging like they used to post about "winning son" back in 2020 without affecting their viewership that much
>>28880486No one cares about inflated Twitter subs who don't watch streams. Or are you gonna claim Vox's subs are organic growth?The people subbing to ILUNA are the same people who watch other NijiENs already. By comparison, no one who's subbing to the ENstars were preexisting fans, it's a totally separate and new audience.
Numbers? Numbers.Can't believe that fag still didn't get banned.
>>28880373Irys>100k day of announcement>200k 3 days before debut>300k day of the debut>400k 1 day after debutCouncil (Kronii)>100k day of announcement>200k day of debut>300k 12 days after debut
>>28880331>5k ccvsay whatUproar hit 10kThese guys will definitely hit above that
>>28880651>Youtube: But HoloASMR? NONONONO
Na-ho-ne
EN Stars are going to be a huge success and mog those lazy Council whores for weeks.
>>28880052Just wait and see speculations is meaningless
>>28880637They won't but at least it would garner some eyes on them, some might stick and some might not but at least getting traction from the start is good, every new viewer even small is better than nothing
>Tempiss fags trying to lower their standards so they aren't disappointed Embarassing. I'll proudly say Iluna will get 50k minimum debuts with highs around 80k for Scarle and Zotto.
>>28880646>no one who's subbing to the ENstars were preexisting fansNot a Nijinigger, but where are the fans coming from then? Are they coming from the NijiEN audience? Bro streamer audience on Twitch? Wouldn't you think there is at least a minimal overlap between HoloEN and StarsEN? Or will we not know until the vrabi chat breakdown happens during the debuts?
>>28880331>5kOne think is to be pessimistic and another different thing is to be a moron
>>28880570Even the myth thought they'd be 4views at best during debut and why there was so little support for the branch since the beginning. StarsEN could possibly pull it off by being brotubers. ID just got their miracle gen why not the stars
>>28880710It’s bait, all the debuts will easily be 10k+, likely 20k+
>>28880637winning son has had a permanent effect on Roberu's viewership
Council can barely get 40k on their 3D reveals and you guys think Tempus can match that with their debuts? Lmao.
>>28880798they are coming from reddit, the ones commenting about defeating idol culture that will never watch them
>>28880052If they don't act like horny teenagers and consolidate themselves as bro tubers, they might even get some of the holo EN box that only watches women to watch them
>>28880791This is one of the reasons why I want Tempussy to get good views just so I can shove it to nijifaggot's faces
>>28880798>Wouldn't you think there is at least a minimal overlap between HoloEN and StarsENNo. This should be obvious by the overwhelming amount of malding that happened when StarsEN was announced in the first place. If anything, the entire HoloEN fanbase hates StarsEN more than NijiEN
>>28880885time travellerchama....
do we have data (not opinions revealed to you in a dream) about the vTuber audience as a whole?
>>28880791That’s a reasonable prediction, especially if they take advantage of raiding
>>28881010lots of fags, trannies and BLM types watch nijiEN
>>28881010Gura's demographics, only about a quarter of them are NA.
>>28881010There's only tidbits that have been shared previously by the girls but nothing extensive
>>28880791why do you nijifaggots constantly like to punch down? it's not a good look.
>>28881010>do we have datarumao
>>28881010https://vchama.xyz/statsTry the Live Viewers Over Time chart.
>>28879940>>28879995Told you guys Koyori is literally PekoMiko daughter. Her parents will fight over who get to keep the child
>>28881083Says the Holofag who throws a hissy fit and shits up the thread anytime a Niji wins Gold.
>>288806372020 was the age before this board retard.Back in those days, if someone actually got ENfags to watch it, they stuck around.Aki, Towa, Korone, Roberu, Migo, Pekora etc. all the ENfags who watched them eventually blended into the natural audience, because in /jp/ reps were the norm.You newfags who have no idea of how this hobby evolved should not be talking about numbers before lurking for at least a hundred years.
>>28881064How did this shit leak
>>28881064Why the number of krauts so low? wtf
>>28880331"5k AVERAGE CCV after 2 weeks" and then your post would be correct.
I just hope these guys are not numberfagOtherwise they will fall into the same hole as Luxiem. Fujo money are too easy to get at the cost of your dignity, I just want some dude like the NijiJP male or some certain NijiEN dude
So I think I found a reason why theres a weird increase in korean fans in niji.https://twitter.com/fvfv_nijisanji/status/1550004851639083013
>28881160why do the nijifriends constantly lie like this?
You guys really underestimate the importance of discoverabilityJPstars have a small audience yeah, but it's mainly because they just can't get ahead in the algorithm, which disproportionately favors people who are already popular. The big get bigger because numbers beget numbers, if StarsEN has 1k median across the board their discoverability will be miles better than those with 3views and so they will also grow faster as a result.
>>28881160Projecting are we? Just from last thread all I saw were complains of no Gwelu lewds and no nijifaggot posting, just whinning
>>28881160No one complaining rn beside you, just saying
>>28881217now show the lines for the myth cafe
>>28881160> Nijicope #47 Blatant Lying
>>28881160doesn't happen
>>28881010AnycolorID are their merch shop accounts. I wouldn't believe the female/male as reflective of viewership, women tend to buy more merch. But the age breakdown should be pretty representative of Niji's audience.
>>28881217oh he noticed but I can bet hat they'll fail to captilize.https://twitter.com/333akina/status/1550433301827309568
Do you think Salome cancelling her stream and talking about her menstrual cramps in detail will affect her views?
>>28880960>>28881208Nijiniggers are getting desperate.
>>28881129So Miko raped Peko at the beginning of 2021 which led to the birth of Koyori. When did PekoMiko stop?
>>28881315I thought Korea hated Japan
>>28881326Nah, her viewer are tourist, they don't mind that
>>28881192It didn't leak, it was part of a presentation
>>28881346wrong, it's nationalists that hate eachother. zoomers don't give a shit about that
>two of the big streamers on the platform>one just joined on the the big orgs on the platform>can barely break 30kit's a bit sad
>>28881326She should show her gyno results
>>28881329jesus christ, rent free
>>28880885>"3D reveal"
>>28881329Every time I see post like this I just assume the schizo probably wasn't talking about meI watch the dude because they seem interesting, that's all
>>28881329>>28881371
>>28881388If it was on Asmongolds channel it would be 70k easy. Veibae's boyfriend isn't as popular.
>>28881160Just saying, people decided to use the Matsuri thread created 12 seconds before the Gwelu one and the janny deleted it like 2 minutes in before I could post the copypastes since I didn't make the OP.
>>28881376It's a presentation with stats that is over 1 year old.
>>28879639My face belongs in between her thighs
>>28881419it's funny because niji is the most corporate of all the corporations.
>>28881452>>28881329I am genuinely worried about him. Getting this mad about some virtual anime streamers...for what? Did Nijisanji reward him? NoThen why? Why hate something with such a passion even though they do nothing to you
>>28881577Im sorry im talking about you giving a shit about their opinions. christ
>>28881108Huh, this has some interesting overal charts, but think they were last updated at the start of July, because Phony's at 18.3mil now and Ochame Kinou at 37.4M.Also>BAO?!?!??Oh, it's a song and MV about suicide from her uitate days. Those were really popular back in the day.
>>28881578Isn’t that just an average post here
>>28881221Reminder to never trust posts coming from the Lie:Verse. If it has no screencap or cannot be verified, assume that it is a Nijinigger trying to shit up the thread.Never trust Nijiliars
>>28881329>>28866757Lmao same with the Holobronies. Magging really is getting to them.
>>28881653All the more reason to concernfagging this schizo
>>28881519Veibae's boyfriend is a Twitch millionaire though
>>28881625I always forget Pmaru exists
>>28881670that's a falseflag, of course you would know since you are a nijiscum
>>28881329>>28881452Is there a list with all their retarded posts about homos already?
>>28880516>even those guys are 3viewsthey went to 2view territory and even 1view nowadays
>>28881578Anon.. look at how often anons here get senselessly angry at objective numbers.
Ok, bros, give me your guesses on debut ccv for each Tempus and iLuna member
>>28881625>PmaruI swear to God every Japanese utaite sings the exact same fucking genre of music. It all just blurs into the same song pop rock song.
>>28881731I don't think anyone has bothered to collect them, but he seems to be a regular there now
>>28881731Here's what I got>>28576853>>28577871>>28577933>>28578008>>28578380>>28578475>>28578619>>28579207>>28579315>>28579383>>28579418>>28579544>>28579698>>28579969>>28580677>>28580693>>28580797>>28581124>>28581433>>28880960>>28881208
1200 waiting for Regis with 5h to go
>>28881625Rim isn't considered a Vtuber channel by this place it seemshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9eCSWEJYjk>37.2 mil views - Carnivorous Plant - RIM
>>28881800Guessing 2500k waiting room and 40k ccv.
>>28881204because 90% of HoloEN streams are right in the middle of the night for most of EU the stars EN debuts will be at 3am and 4 am for anyone in germany
>>28881800Isnt that like 60k+ waiting room pace?
>>28881108we should add taht to the op
>>28881708Because she doesn't consider herself a Vtuber. Only used the model for live shows from what I've seen.On the other hand>>28881806Rim has shorts where she speaks in the model, but doesn't count?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj9F5E5gZTY
>>28881861 (me)I dont mean 60k waiting room, I meant 60k peak
>>28881857Oh yeah I forgot they were super anti euro
>>2888176050k for Regis50k for Magni45k for Axel40k for Noir70k for Maria60k for Kyo70k for Aia70k for Aster75k for Scarle75k for Ren
>>28881857VERDAMNT SCHEIßE
>>28881861Waiting room 5 hours out numbers are all over the place. I would take it with a grain of salt and use it to set a floor instead.
>>28881944Id believe that, retention after a week will be where the real value comes in.
>>28881806If RIM is a vtuber aren't the Gorillaz basically vtubers?A vtuber streams (not just concerts, but games, zatsu, whatever), that's the differentiator. >>28881893The Gorillaz do interviews using their characters. Vtubers? https://youtu.be/EkyA41YUo7I?t=615No. Because they don't stream.
>>28881944This but 5k less for everyone and a magmillion viewers for Magni
>>28881799Based, thanks.And you didn't even get the long ones yet.
>>28881778he's a regular across the entire board, and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it's the same nijikek discord group that's been raiding the board ever since luxiem debuted
>>28881944Change Magni to 90k, Scarle and Ren to 80k, Aia and Aster to 60k. Solid list.
>>28882032I didn't really set out to grab them, most of it is just posts in one of the mag threads that I saved to notepad for reasons
>>28881710Are the "falseflags" in the room with us right now?
They're gonna have the best group chemistry of any vtuber group in history
>>28880014the superior numberfagging platform
>>28881944-20k to every star+30k to every nijiand it will be actually correct
>>28882260Anon..wave 6 is not getting 100k debut numbers
People are making crazy predictions. To temper that, here are ALL 10k+ Holostars streams so far >peak :: date :: title (nameEn) :: video_id>21877 :: 2022-03-19 :: 【#つながるホロライブDAY1】「わちゃスタ」出張版『ホロスターズYAGOO 本音対談!』 (Holostars Official) :: hG9EjmQhliY>18118 :: 2022-03-20 :: 【#つながるホロライブDAY2】「わちゃスタ」出張版『一致団結!プレッシャーホロスターズ!』 (Holostars Official) :: zRDDJDv3Dqk>17039 :: 2021-03-10 :: 【#夕刻ロベル3D】夕刻ロベル3Dお披露目配信! (Yukoku Roberu) :: c4OSDfUJ0yk>15075 :: 2021-03-26 :: 【 #深夜男子UNO 】深夜にUNOをするとこうな (Rikka) :: CKxX-gl842Q>14926 :: 2021-07-10 :: 【#影山シエン3D】お前達、3Dお披露目開始だ!!!!! (Kageyama Shien) :: FUEHGqqOTFk>14623 :: 2021-12-07 :: 『#アステルレダ3D』未来へ、One Two Shine / ホロスターズ (Astel Leda) :: qNRR8cyGMaY>11283 :: 2021-07-24 :: 【#荒咬オウガ3D】背中で語る男の3Dお披露 (Aragami Oga) :: Hw7WqfV7H0c>10704 :: 2022-03-29 :: 【初配信】妖の万屋...現る!!!!夜十神封 (Yatogami Fuma) :: pfMyfFGBPoc>10506 :: 2022-03-29 :: 【初配信】あなたのお時間、頂きに参上します...羽継烏 (Utsugi Uyu) :: YNi-2CJ6E6YYep, that's it. 9 streams over 10k so far.A 22k stream would be the most watched Holostar stream ever. It would also be more watched than ANY of the NijiEN girls stream, EVER too.
>>28882295Wait is that really true? No NijiEN female has broken 22K? Not even for events? Is that excluding collabs?
>>28882228Yes, you
>>28882295How many times we gotta explain Holostars and Holostars EN have zero relation besides the name?
>>28881710>falseflagEh. I don't know if it is or not, but I agree with him. It was funny at first, but now it's just annoying. The joke was run into the ground.
>>28882295What? NijiEN girl debuts must have reached at least 30k that's BS
>>28882295that last part was uncalled for. apologise now.
>>28882407completely retarded take
>>28882288You are correct. If you add ccv from the main channel, it will be around 130k ccv.
>>28882432There's a reason the girls are accessories in the branch
>>28882295I SHALL BELIEVE ANONCAUSE IT'LL FEEL BETTER ONCE I RUB IT INTO NIJINIGGERS' FACES IF IT GOES TO THE MOONAM I SETTING MYSELF UP?! I DON'T CARE
>>28882295thank fuck you posted this. these shills need a reality check. I suspect 20k+
>>28882448It's just a fact. Westerners watch Japanese anime girls they can't understand because they're cute. Westerners won't watch Japanese anime men they can't understand. Now they they're understandable and relatable their market is much bigger thanks to the English speaking market, which is significantly bigger than the Japanese speaking market 10 fold.
>>28882452>>28882190Do we have a nijicope list entry for this guy yet, something like, everything I don't like is a hololive marketing campaign?
>>28882432Non of NijiEN debuts reach that until Noctyx. Iluma is gonna be probably first ones that do.
funny thread.
>>28882432anon, while the nijikeks like to frame it like Hololive and Nijisanji is fighting on the same level, they really, really aren't and this is why they come up with all kind of ridiculous copes that we fill out an entire list of it. See pic related
>>28882666Glad you're enjoying it Goombers, just sit there and enjoy, we'll fuck later
To anyone who claims ILUNA has better exposure than HoloStarsEN: Twitter is less used than Bing in the US. Reddit is so much more popular than Twitter, comparing their numbers is a joke.HoloStarsEN got to the front page of reddit and was on top of the Hololive subreddit with multiple 10k+ upvoted posts. Unironically, Holostars has a bigger NA following than all of Nijisanji does, if you look at the Nijisanji subreddit it's completely dead.How dead is NijiReddit? This fucking dead. Homostars is fucking mogging the nijifags on THEIR OWN SUBREDDIT
>>28882619Holy crap. What did Luxiem get? 15-20k? I remember Lazulight barely getting around 12k.
>>28882752There's no way that's real
>>28882432They didn't. No NijiEN girl debut even reached 20k. Even Luxiem debuts didn't hit 30k, Vox was the highest at like 20.7k.The funny thing is, anyone thinking the current NijiEN girls debuts would be anything under 40k would be undercutting it. I seriously agree with >>28882407 that they might not have zero relation, but using past StarsJP to judge this debut is going about it wrong.
>>2888276915k if memory serves, they really didn't get anywhere until they blew up in china
>>28882769Luxiem got 20K, the branch blew up, and Noctyx got 60K each. Iluna will probably get around the same as Noctyx, or even more.
>>28882752>unironically using reddit as a metricjesus fucking christ
Is this dude really arguing Reddit activity is more indicative of popularity and success than fucking Twitter activity?
>>28882295Fairly certain one of the early off collabs with Mysta and Vox on Nina's channel hit 25k.
>>28882810it's real
>>28882769Yes. You got exact range. Vox was highest and barely broke 20k.
>using fucking reddit
>>28882840NIjiseethe
>>28882295Didn't Mika have Luxiem over on her channel and get a 20k+ stream that one time?Does she have a higher max peak that actual NijiEN girls now?
>>28882852better than using twitter activity, especially nijisanji twitter
>>28882811So NijiEN has inclined massively over the last year then, at least in maximum reach.
>>28882869>1.5-2k updootsDamn Niji sub is doing okay. Hololive only gets like 5k average
So we have unironic redditors in this board where they usually get shunned at straight away.
>>28882912all it took was capitulating to the zhangs and queers.
>>28882941>>28882890>>28882852you're trying too hard
>>28882890Glorious seething. You don't have to actively use a website to analyze its numbers. I think the tone in this thread has changed to preemptive nijicoping because people can tell these debuts are going to perform way better than anticipated.
>>28882854Nah. 21k.
>>28882852Yes. It's just a fucking fact
>>28882810Reddit has almost twice the amount of daily visits as Twitter and 1.5x the amount of pages/visit for US.>>28882752Both StarsEN and ILUNA aren't only drawing their crowd from NA. HoloEN doesn't even have a plurality on NA visitors. >Unironically, Holostars has a bigger NA following than all of Nijisanji doesIf you put in Hololive it would be absolutely true obviously, but I seriously doubt that StarsJP has a bigger NA following than Nijisanji overall.
>>28882961Those alphabet peeps will abandon it like how they abondon each other, just one dissenting opinion and you're not a part of them anymore, they're very fickle
>>28882869Using subreddits as a metric is retarded, also the Niji subreddit has unironically inclined a lot because last I checked, the average number of upvotes was in the low hundreds with less than 10 comments on each post.
>>28882916which would be valid If i was using the hot tab
>>28883005Which NijiEN fucked Nina? God she's probably hideous irl.
>>28882752That same thread got deleted by mods on the holo sub since everyone was just arguing in the comments and advertising the niji debuts
>>28883090Eastern European girl ugly?! You need to travel more my friend
>>28882916>>28883076for reference here's what hololive's looks like
>>28882752Why is Reddit the main indicator of success when its already obvious that the two fanbases have different active platforms?
>>28883052We had literal bronies seething and shitting up the catalog because Amelia told them to touch grass. Ame lost a lot of members for something so minor most people would t even recognize it as an issue.
>>28883126I think you mean "Because the jun gang reported it"
>>28883065just because it doesn't support your worldview doesn't mean it's retarded
>>28883090She tweeted about waking up snuggling with Mysta. I still can't believe those off collabs didn't kill NijiEN. Feels like everyone memoryholed them.
>>28883150Holy fuck
>>28882840>>28882852>>28882890twitter trannies glowing like feds lmao
>>28882752Didn't read but I'M EXPECTING THE NIJI WAVE TO MAG TEMPUSBecause that's how things needs to beIt's the normalStars being small and comfy as alwaysI WON'T ALLOW PEOPLE TO DISCOVER HOW POWERFUL SHIEN IS
>numberfagging reddit likes
>>28883150Wow, look, not even in the same universe of popularity. Like their CCV averages and ceilings. It's almost like Hololive is far, far more popular in the English speaking world. But that can't be right...
>>28883164come up with one reason why we shouldn't use one of the most frequently used sites in NA as a metric
>>28883065By average number of comments and upvotes, maybe. The subreddit has barely gotten an increase in subs though, and their top upvoted stuff is still from more than half a year ago. By ratio, they did get more stuff into the top upvoted of the subreddit more recently.
>>28882752>RedditAre you for real?If we use Reddit stats then you would think Holostars are already super popular with how much Redditors love using them to virtue signal and upvote their shit all the time but not actually watching themLike thishttps://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/kvaeyp/bringing_holostars_into_holotalk_would_be_anhttps://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/s7l26k/holostars_is_now_on_reddithttps://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/rourvr/new_holostars_members_coming_in_2022https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/o8wgu9/announced_during_the_holostars_2nd_anniversaryhttps://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/nu5unq/miyabi_talks_about_how_yagoo_helped_him_during
>>28883288Shien is so based. TriNero was a great gen.
>>28883164
>>28883178Those are goslings, they're a different breed and it's a different matter
> Removed Sana, Matsuri and Iofi's posts for thisThey're going all out...
>>28883212It is just as retarded as saying Niji has more supporters than Hololive because they mog them on twitter. The vast vast majority of fans are not on reddit or twitter.If you want an good idea of how fucking stupid reddit opinions are, during the 2016 election every post on r/politics would have you believe that Clinton was going to win in a landslide.
numberfags, spoonfeed me.Is there any website or bot or anything that tracks whom the vtuber followed/unfollowed on twitter? At least for the popular accounts or groups. I don't believe that fags like 5chan would miss a chance to stir some drama based on that data, but to my surprise I couldn't find anything.
>>28883345/discussion
>>28882666Stream lazy vox 2.0 bitch
>>28883310Just as retarded as numberfagging twitter likes.
>>28880486I don't think OP is saying that they are exactly the same situation, only that sub count doesn't necessarily predict performance (especially for a brand new branch).
>>28883310twitter trannies seething
>>28883411https://files.catbox.moe/me0hx8.mp3
>>28883310Yeah. This thread fell heavy in quality...I thought everyone agreed that redditors don't watch stream.
>>28883342kek classic homobeggar threads. the advent of HomoEN shitters will bring a beggeddon upon the girls. bawwww why won't gawr gura hololive EN ch collab with the boiiiis
lol
>>28883558
>>28883365>Cover going all in on Reddit>Cover going all in on Twitter>YAGOO going all in>Mori, Bae, A-chan, Kobo, Kayla, Zeta, Reine, Iofi, and Ollie going all in>Amelia, Anya, and Ina somewhat going in >Gura being tsundere and refusing to interact with them but will funnel her 20-30k viewers into their debuts >Fauna and Mumei sticking the tip in a little by following them on Twitter >Omega going all in with the manga >Watamage going all in with Meme MAGic They have literally no excuses. They have every buff on the planet.
>>28883600kek
>>28883558More Redditors watch streams than Twittards, and those are the only people who like Nijisanji
I thought HoloEN was more popular than NijiEN. What happened?
>>28883623https://youtu.be/6dxICJHd518Wonder if we can get /mag/ to do an edit of this.
>>28883697Again?
>>28883697>Ads
>>28883697adsanyone replying to this after me is a faggot
>>28883697Niji literally paid to force people to watch their songs via ads, which were targeted at vtuber tags so they kept appearing on hololive streams
>>28883697I know right? And every time someone buys an ad slot for the superbowl, that ad is now the most popular TV show on the planet. Ad views and organic views are the same thing.
Reminder
>>28883739The fuck? Why doesn't Cover pay for advertisement?
>>28883737>>28883866you can tell the nijikek is getting butthurt when he's breaking out the ritualposts
>one bait after anotherwhat's going on? are they actually scared of the mag?
>>28883866kek, gfe on sale!
>>28883866nazuna is doing really well. vshojoJP is off to a strong start.
>>28883924Honestly I just want this weekend to be over already.
Bros, I've seen many of you posting that Tempus are gonna succeed because they are popular on Reddit, but what can you say about that:https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/tjudo6/holostars_new_unit_uproar_to_debut_march_29/https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/w1ml36/our_new_englishspeaking_vtuber_unit_holostars/Both uproar and tempus debut posts have basically the same amount of engagement
>>28883866Thanks for the reminder that she lost to the mayonnaise dog twice on the same day
>>28883948That was her second stream. She's sub10k now
>>28883866Can't wait for her next yab
>>28883916Cope
>>28883891So they can flex their brand power to advertisers as having no paid views and land bigger sponsorships.
I don't know why so many people completely refuse to believe the possibility that Nijisanji uses viewfarms to boost their numbers, they literally pay for music views and Twitter engagement, why wouldn't they do the same for live viewers?I'm not saying it's irrefutable proof, just food for thought
>>28883924nijikeks get butthurt that holochads are BTFOing them with facts and logic and are deflecting in response
>>28883969see >>28883345JPs don't use reddit. EoPs use Reddit
>>28883969>6k up votes>most big Holostars collabs get 3k ccv>Uproar debuts got 10k>they go down to being 400-800 ccv streamers.It adds up.
>>28883866>she peaked at 4k.Anyway, shit, this made me realize Haachama is having a Valo arc on Twitch too.She even started before Nazuna's debut.
>>28884026>they literally pay for Twitter engagementproof?
>>28883948She had 25K on her Stray stream today. Incline is real. Holoshit is really regretting their decision to fire her.
>>28884026We all know they use viewfarms, only nijikeks deny this
>>28884010don't go check the vods now
What number could be considered a success for the debut of stars EN?Is reaching similar numbers than NijiEN wave 1 enough because they are also a new branch?
>>28883924They actually are, it's fucking hilarious.They have zero confidence in their new wave, and got scared of fucking Holostars, just because some shitposters /here/ were making some memes and magging all over them.I haven't stopped laughing since afternoon.
>>28884096They bought a Topic
>>28883969Uproar are still Japanese, anon.
>>28883969let the holobronie reddit fags push that reddit has an effect. it's fucking laughable really
>>28884099>>28881659
>>28884113More CCV on Stray stream than Korone does
>>28884046>holochads are BTFOing them with facts and logicOh god, Niji success must have really mind-fucked you so much that you started posting such nonsense
>>28884128>They have zero confidence in their new waveThis is honestly the real reason. Nijifans have been doomposting the new Nijis hard after their PLs were leaked, they know they can't succeed on their own merits
>>28883969> JP> vs EN
>>28884152You were saying? Are you scared of VShojo JP being the future of Japanese VTubing and Twitch numbers being more important than YouTube ones?
>>28884099Don't lie shitposter. She is doing solid though. Her michael cat/rushia fans are brainwashed and will follow her til the end.
>>28883891If the Nijikeks are right, Cover orchestrated this genius meme marketing that's immensely successful at Magging the opposition.All at no more expense than the regular salaries for the Marketing department and some performance bonuses.
>>28884074So, by your logic, tempus are gonna get 6k ccv during their debuts?
>>28884099>She had 25KWhere?https://twitchtracker.com/amemiyanazuna/streams/39508461735
>>28883924Sad part is this is usually the time where the thread would start being usable. Nijiniggers get called out when they need to be, but some holofags are so vitriolic that they become just as unreasonable. But I guess that’s how it’s always been, only 1/5th of the posters here are reasonable in any capacity
>>28883924It's fucking weird man. The catalog has gone to shit with all the nijinigs and discord trannies sperging out. I'd understand if this was for HoloEn 3 or JP 7, but holostars? HOLOSTARS?!
>>28884165What successReally, point out for all of us where Nijisanji's success is
>>28884251We don't know the Tempus baseline.
>thats right bros, they have zero confidence in iluna, thats why we shall use reddit as an indicator of successjesus christ, I sure hope tempus succeeds after all the mag posting.
>>28884161you might want to double-check those numbers friend
>>28884129https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/follow-and-unfollow-topics#select
>>28884086Fuck image didn't upload.
>>28884286>that Niji graphSega is botting Korone
>>28883924I think the holobronies are afraid that if mag gets popular enough the EN girls will actually want to collab with them more often.
>>28884283What a baffling fucking postTempus getting EVERN 1K is success. Iluna is a joke, because Nijikeks are terrified THEY CAN'T EVEN HIT THAT LOW THRESHOLD which is why we're fucking memeing them right now, they're fucking jokes
>>28884330What's your address?
>>28884330>7h 37 min>15k averagewhat a beast
>>28884377Stop falseflagging already nijinigger.
>>28884372They're already shitting their pants over Regis collabing with Kobo KEK
>>288843843F Forum Shimada II 1-4-8 Shinkawa Chuo-ku Tokyo, 104-0033 Japan
>>28884377>tempus getting EVERN 1K is successlmfao my sides
I can't wait for the EOP fan pool to get fucked now, with the people who will watch the stars (we know those kinds of people) and the people who will be vocal about it if they fail, and the people who'll beg for collabs and shit like that, EOPs deserve this for abandoning the JPs
>>28883365removes sanas graduation post for this.....disgusting.
>>28884257I love how you're blaming holofags when nijiniggers are the ones shitting up the thread every time
>>28884292You're a retard, you don't get Topics made for your Brand for free
Kept forgetting to post thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvQ1_3q_d4Qkson confirmed that Nazuna is Vshojo's only Twitch partner, she legally cannot stream outside of Twitch... as Nazuna.
>>28884452JP hasn't been watchable since mid 2020
Tempus is going to be 1-2k ccv at best post debut buff. Anyone who thinks otherwise is too caught up in the retarded hyping to think properly, or they're just shitposting because it gets easy replies
>>28884516What a fucking clownshow, this ridiculous legal fiction
>>28884516Not true. She has a YouTube channel where she can upload her VOD after 2 weeks and do mengen.
>>28884516is her streaming on youtube but under a different name allowed though?
>>28884516what happened to creative freedom and being an indie?
>>28884010are?
Nijiniggers really turn every place they exist in into a Palace of lies
>>28884519Why is that, EOP-kun?>he says as if The ENs were EVER watchable
>>28884485You do. Where is the payment mentioned?
>>28884530Right, and Iluna will totally be 5k CCV average right? Right? You're a fucking retard.
>>28884516Lmao. That's interesting loophole of using Mikeneko for youtube,
>>28884516Is this even allowed?If any big Twitch partner like xqc (I don't know if he's, but I guess so) created a different account without showing his face could he stream on Youtube?
>>28884577yeah, she can upload videos anywhere, just can't stream live.
>>28884530I'm only going to watch the debuts just to see how they are. Other than that, I hope you're wrong. I want the unicuck portion of Holoshit to die.
>>28884516That explains a lot.
>>28884485Ah yes, the brand known as "cats" clearly paid off Twitter to put up a topic for them rather than just being popular.
>>28884516Also she wants paypigs to double dip with Nazuna on Twitch and Mike on YT.
>>28884516T A L E N T F R E E D O M
>>28884372But then If they aren't popular enough, that means Cover might do worse and force the collabs to try to boost their numbers. So pick your poison.
>>28884266>where Nijisanji's success isTheir success is at the most important metric:By easily mogging holowhores in terms of raw income
>>28884616Go to Twitter management and pay them 10 million dollars. They're not going to give you one for free, you're fucking stupid if you believe Twitter would ever do thatjhmpm
>>28884605>he doesn't know+ YWNBJ
>>28884620Nah. They both gonna be shit.
>>28884530Just wait until the collab begging starts, that’s where the real fun will begin
>>28884516Talent...freedom? Surprised there wasn't a bait thread for this already. Catalog spammers are slacking.
>>28884669>>28884593That's Twitch's problem.
>>28884686Can you prove this?
Enjoy this while you can, anons. This may be the last time Cover debuts a new branch.
>>28884742Don't worry, now that it was posted here, there will be one withing the next 10 mins
>>28884686BASED
>>28884776That's the most utterly retarded thing you've said today, because you probably actually believe it
>Pomu does a room review>all of the room submissions are filled to brim with hololiveKinda awkward
>>28884742Anon... Half of baits in catalog are coming from here.
>>28884776I like your thinking. Question is, what?
>>28884699So in other words, you're literally making this shit up and have been pushing this narrative across the dozens of threads you keep saying this. Gimme a single news article, blog post, anything. If what you say is true someone would have absolutely leaked it by now.
>>28884764You got the Cashflow of this?
>Nijisanji Livers make more money than Hololive TalentsWha? I have never heard this nijicope before in my life
>>28884827Seems like a fair mix of both.
>>28884827plenty were just Nijisanjibut yeah, NijiEN fans of the girls are in large part HoloEN fans too.
>>28884817>he lacks critical informationrorurumao
>>28884876Nijisanji makes more merch sales
>>28884876really anon?
>>28884776Sounds like a threat, you stop that
>>28884827Maybe if Anycolor made better merch, this wouldn't be an issue.
>>28884827>>28883962There's already a bait thread for this, get out.
>>28884776>implying HoloES or KR within the next 2 years.
>>28884764Lmao, retarded faggot not only doesn't know that Anycolor posts their reports for previous 4 quarters while Cover posts for current. But this retarded faggot doesn't even realize that even then Anycolor mogged Cover in gross profit.
>>28884924oh boy we're going all the back to 2019 with the merch cope, time to dig up some old bangers
>>28884876Always has been true, newfag.
>>28884776
In a Famimart poll, most responders likened Nijisanji merchandise to 'bargain-bin' goods, not realizing it was a vtuber agency. One excitable child noted that he loved Nijisanji because he could get a lot of really cheap promotional candy.
>>28884776I'm from the future, HoloKR debuts Q2 2023 and HoloES Q4 2023. HoloKR gets 70k CCV on their debuts, averages about 4-8k after debut buff.HoloES gets 85k CCV on their debuts, but they have a runt of the litter who only averages 2.5k. The South Americans hate her accent apparently.
>>28884966That doesn't change the fact that Anycolor is WAY UP in gross profit LMAO
>>28884827>all of the room submissionsHolokeks are once again at their natural environment - lying
Okay, it's now clear we've been raided with a bunch of retarded nijiniggers, since we now have people outright lying about income numbers which we actually have proof of
What the hell happened?This is worse than SEA hours
>Nijizhang Agitprophttps://note.com/anrimayura/n/nc313a6f5e28d
Holy fuck, this is unusable, I fucking hate certain group of people in this thread so much, but since we got the new Nijimeido, I get banned everytime I bring them up, so I'll just leave and hope some people a slow and painful death
>>28885082welcome to Euro hours
>>28884961Cover won't exist by year's end. They're almost nearing bankruptcy.
>>28884876>I have never heard this nijicope before in my lifeYou've spent too much time in this thread and became a bit retarded
>>28885082Nijiniggers fucking SEETHING This is why we fucking shit on them so hard, they deserve it for this shit
>>28884937If you watched the last one she did last year, there was a ton of Niji merch, mainly JP. You'll see a fair bit on this year as well.
>>28884987Even in 2019 I always wondered how was Nijisanji merch money distributed around their members.
>>28885090>posting based anrimayuraSugoi
>>28885011>-34%>-30%>-30%>-42%>-32%Should I remind you about it, holokek?
>>28885171I don't know, but I did find this?
>>28885082I can only attribute it to genuine nervousness about Tempus from the nijisanji contingent. The thread hasn't been this shit in weeks.
>>28885110tf you talking about?Euro hours are usually super slow and peacefully actually about numbers.But in the weekend it usually gets worse.
Why can't anykara make better merch? They're the bigger company by far, yet all their merch is low quality shit.
>>28884987There is no merch cope faggot. Cover singlehandedly takes all of the merch profits from all of their talents, it's different for Anykara and always has been. I've been trying to tell you now for 3 years this back when /vyt/ was in full swing.
>>28885066Yep, basically they had bigger gross profits in 2019-2020 then Cover had in 2020-2021
>>28884827>Anycolor made better merch
>>28885304>Cover singlehandedly takes all of the merch profits from all of their talentswhat?
>>28885286Anykara merch sales are by talentCover merch sales are by corporationLearn the difference, newfaggot
>>28885077Stop lying anon. I know that, as a holokek, it's natural to you, but you should at least try and control yourself.
>>28885264i doubt niji fans are here, seems more like shitposters. nijifags mostly remain in their threads, except for /nijien/ who someitmes come here
>>28885286entertainment factory, lmao
>>28885077>>28884764The numbers are right there. Thread full of idiots trying to use Gross Profit vs Operating Income vs Ordinary Income just because their number is bigger. Revenue is the most important in growth. It reflects that people are still willing to buy your products. Gross profit is just Revenue - Cost of Goods. Operating Income is just Gross profit - other expenses related to business. Ordinary income is just Operating - expenses not related to business.Anycolor did more revenue and slightly more gross profit, but they also had much more administrative overhead from their own employees, which makes sense seeing as they expanded in that period just as Cover did in the next. Then Anycolor had tax and loan related expenses that pushed their ordinary income lower.
>>28885286>clock's dakiI thought that she was a frigid lesbian.
>>28885011Cover has been losing profits since February. They're in massive debt. Anykara has debt too, but it's manageable.
>>28885416stop listening to vt rrats
>>28885286Really depressing image
>>28885286Why you guys act like the birthday merch is the only merch they produce? Birthday merch is the only merch which is default to everyone, but the other shit is different if you look at it
>>28885286Nijisanji protects her talents, and standard merch makes it so no talent feels like more or less than the others. It's brilliant.
It's so funny seeing how holokeks are pathetically crying because holowhores got molested by Niji in all aspects.
>>28885440Well, she does hide her boobs, so yeah?
>>28885450Because you are a fucking liarEither provide evidence of your claims, your your claims are bullshit
>>28885380anon we've had a persistent population of nijiniggers in these threads since luxiem debuted, most nijifags stay in their threads, sure, but /#/ unironically lives rent free in /nijiEN/'s head and they keep coming up with ways of getting back at the evil holobronies for talking shit about nijisanji
>>28885494They've never been told Cover is in massive debt until now. When they're under by December /vt/ may be a great board again.
>>28885450Because it fits into an easily baitable image. Reminder the copy-paste birthday merch is literally FREE for the talent and they do no work at all but still get a cut. Put in more work for what merch you want, get a higher cut.If there's anything to be salty about, it's how often Niji and Holo management blocks customized merch.
>>28885464If that's the case why does Luxiem get more merch than all the others?
>>28885450Post all the cool custom NijiEN merch so we can all kneel
>>28885539Refute>>28885415
>>28885286God they're so lazy.>that Suisei cupGod I want it so bad
>28885542proof next thread, right?
>>28885520Outside of birthday merch, which you guys only discovered the existence two years after it released, their merchandise isn't standardized. Only birthday isJust look at ithttps://nijisanji-store.com/https://shop.nijisanji.jp/s/niji/?ima=5934
>>28885539YeahNijiniggers seriously raid this thread ever fucking day and then have the gall to blame us for their own shitposting, it's incredible how hard they pull DARVO
>>28885450This. Niji has a plenty of different merch and only birthday are mostly same for everyone. But retarded holokeks prefer to play dumb.
>>28885618See>>28885212
>buying merchandisePfft. The only merch I buy is sports merch.
>28885304>28885369>28885428>28885494>28885542
>>28885674Are you talking about weekly Anycolor stock?
Cover is a black company. The management doesn't care if the talents are getting harrassed.Hololive talents hate each other's gut behind the scene. Just look at how Pekora and Miko fell apart. Also look at how fake the council 3D debut was.There is no future for hololive as the branding was used to shill unsuccessful products like HoloError and HoloEarth. Cover is in deep debt now due to Yagoo biting more than he can chew. That is why he is scared to IPO as you need to show the world your account book if you go public.
Why are nijiniggers claiming debt when that was refuted already?
Will Magni have the highest ccv out of the four purely because of the memes?
Doxxbeats..
>>28885625Are all holokeks retarded esl like you? Seriously, this board should be limited by English proficiency level.
>20 hours of avg 1k ccv mag before debut
>>28885736Those are Cover's net losses by month LMAOhttps://note.com/anrimayura/n/nc313a6f5e28d
>>28885625Incredible how when people try to refute rrats that suddenly the thread is "raided" by nijifags yet the people spouting rrats every day in this thread don't count as a holobrony.
And blue man has no meme power. I think he will do well.
>>28885674Bruh, that was my post and I was posting about infamous HoloEn's recline in only 8 months, not about profits.
>>28885777https://note.com/anrimayura/n/nc313a6f5e28d
>>28885585I didn't say anything about custom, im talking about the merch only being standardized. if you look at the links I provided, even for nijien you'll see different merch compared to birthday ones>>28885630Its being disingenuos. criticize the birthday merch but recognize that the rest isnt like that
>>28885825fake hype
>>28885801Isn't that boboco's glasses upside down?
>>28885777Nijiniggers are retarded and think that if they just say something often enough they'll get people to believe them, because, you know, to them that's what this thread looks like, see >>28885903, and the sad thing is that they actually believe it
Meido, I 've been reporting that fucking retard for almost 30 minutes, would you kindly stop jerking off to Vox and start doing something?
>>28885826>anrimayuMy sides.
>>28886006Do you know what a net loss is, Holobrony?
>28885212>28885428>28885571>28885754>28885826>28885918
>>28885826>https://note.com/anrimayura/n/nc313a6f5e28dThose only have view losses? The only thing this mentions about money is that Anycolor has 1.5x the average salary for employees.
>>28886032Not an argument. Cover is in debt and if this continues they won't exist.
>>28885825
>>28886006>if they just say something often enough they'll get people to believe themAwfully sounds like what holokeks are doing in /#/ and magkeks are doing with Magni
>Spamming/flooding>Trolling outside of /b/>This post is extremely low quality
Imagine if people in this thread had the mental capacity to ignore bait.The best way to make shitposters and flaseflaggers seethe is by giving them zero (You)s.
>>28884010>>28883866Reminder Nazitard, your whore is irrelevant now. Barely 10k yesterday even though your whore is supposed to love cats.
>>28885918>Nijinigger anti's blog is the word of godlmao this reminds me of the pathetic seething blog by the nijnijig crying over hololive copying nijis back in the day and breaking copyright rules. Seethe, nijinigs will always be the Kyoani arsonist phenotype, and unworthy to speak to.
>>28886117yep, I told ya, the sad thing is that they actually believe that's how this place works which is why their attempts to start rrats stick out like a sore thumb
>>28886084>doesn't know that Hololive or any other corpo solely relies on vieweship for both passive and incomeAs Nijisanji is inclining and Holoshit is declining there's your basis. Do the rest of the math for you. Nijisanji is already back at the top financialwise.
CR Cup Valorant is not looking very numbers for chuubas. No Kuzuha. Hal doesn't do great numbers on valo but he, Nose and Met might touch 10k. Doubt there will be any daily medals here.
I could fucking swear this is a timeloop. The retarded logic of>Cover is losing money and going into debt, despite having tens of millions of dollars in overall profit and also selling out every merch run, they're hiding how unprofitable are by understocking their merch so it sells out for the illusion of success
>>28884010Holy kek AHAHAHAHAH! Nazicucks can't be that dumb right?!
>>28886155I'm not convinced they aren't samefagging at this point.
>>28886084I don't know what they are pushing, but here's an article that actually talks about moneyhttps://note.com/kojiro001/n/n43706ace6bda>He thinks Anycolor are contradicting themselves when they state that since most of their revenue (50%) comes from the biggest 10-25 Nijisanji members, a possible graduation of those popular members can cause a big problem for the company's future and new recruits are not as successful or take time to gather a sizeable audience but then they turn around stating that they don't think that is a problem(?).>He brings up possible risks that arise from Nijisanji member's actions like the recent Lauren and Luca cases. >He points at Melissa's graduation and the reasons behind it, the failure to come to an agreement for Melissa's music rights between her and Anycolor, as a potential future problem, not only for Anycolor but also for other companies like Cover. He also talks about his worries in general about how much of a vtuber's work and the rights around it benefit mostly the corporations.>He brings up the very high profit margin that Anycolor reported (31%) and compares it with other entertainment companies that are active in the stock market, from older reports though (UUUM at 3,5% , Yoshimoto Kogyo and HoriPro at 11%). He believes that Anycolor has high profit margin because they don't spend enough money to support and remunerate their talents and that can cost them in the future.>Lastly, he points to a 2018 interview with Riku where Riku mentions his past failed business ventures, before Anycolor and Nijisanji, and how he saw his involvement in a vtuber company as an opportunity for short-term success, also mentioning that he's like that as a person in general, someone that focuses on short-term rather than long-term, and how he doesn't appear to have a lot of faith and passion in vtubers but sees it as something temporary that may not be popular in the future. He compairs him with Yagoo, someone that is passionate about vtubers and is trying to move this particular industry forward instead of looking for short-term gains.
>>28886188You didn't read a word of this didn't you? That's right because you'll never be Japanese. When Cover is under by the end of Q4 that's your cope, not the rest of our's.
>>28886257It's not a timeloop, it's Nijiniggers trying to start rrats by repeating it over and over and aggressively attacking anyone who disagrees, because they think that's how this thread works
>>28886188And yet, you are a pathetic seething holofaggot, crying over niji.
>>28886084Those are the note pages for a Nijifag who has been talking about how Hololive is definitely over soon for well year. Stop responding to bait.
>>28886257That's why they're scared to go public KEK
>>28884827Did Pomu get permission from HoloEN management to show that on stream?
>>28886319>>28886368I read it all, it contains next to no information, most of it is just whining about china, as if a japanese person would care, probably a JSL chinese expat nijinig. The only singular comment is some random japanese guys saying its a faggot fake article no on else even cared to comment on it.
interns on full force today. what's going on
>>28886300Holoshit losing Coco and Rushia alone is to blame. They lost like 10% of their income on those two gone alone.
>>28886280Can't even be carried by a longer duration debut on fucking Twitch. rumao
>>28886456they are unironically afraid of holostars
>>28886456tempus has them rattled.
>>28886466LOL
Where did the moderation go? Didn't a meido fucking delete half the thread before, why aren't they here now?
>>28885624Are you trying to claim that stuff is equivalent quality to the custom things Hololive does? The keychain plushies are kinda cute and took more effort than "literally nothing", but the rest is all printed cards, printed badges, acrylic stands, screen printed shot glasses, etc. etc. A fan could order the exact same stuff from redbubble.
>>28884764>anycolor cost of goods are 60% of the sales vs 50% from cover? How does that even happen? that shitty generic merch costs basically nothing to make
>>28886428you are the reason why this thread is so shit btw
>>28886456Anticipating Tempussy with all of us
>>28885428Source next thread?
>>28886425She hasn't been awkward at all about the Hololive merch that has come up. She has been commenting on it like any other vtuber merch. OP is misrepresenting the stream entirely considering most of the pictures have had Niji merch in them including the one he posted.
>>28886456Holofags malding that their males are going to collab with their oshi
>>28886456Their attempt to shill on Reddit failed when the post was removed so they're back here to cry, beg and shit themselves.
>>28886502Overproduction, unironically. Hololive only makes as much merch as they sell, Nijisanji wastes way more money making merch people don't buy
>>28886456Not something I'd ever thought I'd say, but Noor and her interns are afraid of HomoEN.
Damn, Ina can't even hit 6k on a buff game... the recline is real
>>28886536Has she mentioned any holo by name?
>>28886215Then put up their losses from passive viewership.>>28885903 (me) btw. An entire section is dedicated only to EN, and anyone with eyes can already see that NijiEN gains subs faster, which is irrelevant to the argument for revenue. Passive income from viewership is next to nothing compared to merch. He puts up next to no hard numbers for JP except making up rrats about favoritism because of how often members appear on the official channel. Then two pages about Kson/China and another one jerking off Anycolor.
>>28886500My entire point about this is to not misrepresent it as the standard birthday merch to everything. You and I know its not the case..
>>28886531See>>28885212Andhttps://note.com/anrimayura/n/nc313a6f5e28d
>>28886507Whether you respond to them or not the thread will be shit you can chant to yourself uwu don't respond but if the jannies dont care they will always spam and shit up the thread as they have for literal months now. You can either reply to them for fun or ignore them or hope for IDs so they can be filtered.
Jeez, all this sperging because of Holostars. H O L O S T A R S! And it's not even because of the entire branch or gen either. It's literally because of 1 guy who actually has the worst model of the 4. And said guy hasn't even debuted yet! Why are the nijinigs and discord trannies sperging out because of 1 (uno) guy?! They have a fucking wave that got announced that has a higher sub count, has girls with actually fappable models, and yet they're chimping out because of 1 guy... If niggas told me this after the Tempus trailer dropped I would've laughed at them.
>>28886284They are, but they are still baiting for replies with the samefagging.
>>28886620IDs and flags would solve 90% of the problems on this board. A meteor impact at anykara HQ would solve the other 10.
>>28886300Why are you copying this diarrhea of seethe that was written by a literal holokek?
>>28886620You can reply to them sure, but reply to them shitposting, not by engaging them like they are actually talking in good faith like this retard >>28886593 and letting them think that people are actually convinced by their retardation
Meido, now that I have your attention, do fucking something with the 3 retards shitting the thread
>>28886609The "joke" of that image isn't just that the birthday merch is all the same. That's part of it, but the other comparison is the stark contrast in quality and effort.
>>28886585She literally mentioned Ame and Kiara already. Just like she mention holos here and there in the past or any other vtuber whenever she needed.>>28886580You guys are delusional with reality to the point you have to invent narratives
>>28886631they fear meme magic will ruin their gen and make their debuts shit lol
Imagine shitposting because you're afraid of fucking Holostars.
>>28886612What's this schizo article? It's like reading about the 4 gorges damn
So how deep in the Lie:Verse are we today?
>>28886730He says as he repeatedly links the one article written by a nijikek
HoloKR cafe day 2
>>28886631Because the luna hype died out here after an hour. Even though it's alive on twitter, these fujos aren't content with it.
>>28886631Literally no one gives a shit about holostars. Stop creating retarded narratives all the time about just because anons refute your stupid arguments
>>28886631Because they don't have any real hype for Iluna. Roommate leak destroyed it all.
>>28886804More true than HoloLIES kekHoloseethe
>>28886741HEY! I don't remember taking a picture of me and my wife doing it last night.
>>28886631Nijisanji and its fanbase have permanent small dog syndrome.
>>28886746Then post their entire merch without nitpicking instead of putting just birthday merch that is their only standard merch. That would be more fair, but thats not what anyone in this thread or board wants.
>>28886502That's actually easy to explain. Holotrash are producing low quality shit from the cheap materials that holowhores find in the dumpsters.
>>28886810Jesas
>>28886810That's for the Luxium cafe actually, there's no audience for Holo's in Korea because Nijisanji already captured it
>>28886834He says, while trying to create another retarded narrative by spamming an article written by a seething nijikekAlso go back to discord and rein in your friend if you wanna take this angle because it's not going to work while your friend is sperging out with posts like >>28886861
>>28886785Cover is literally collapsing due to their horrible decision making over the past 2 years. We're seeing it unfold just now.
>>28884516Wait I thought twitch partners are only disallowed to multistream to both twitch and YTNow they're prevented from streaming to YT at all?
>>28886930Nijisanji doesn't have anything else, and no your lies do not change that fact
>>28886531I asked for a source. Not a nijinigger with a grudge who colors any analysis with his own biases. Now give me a numbers source. I'll wait.
>>28886999That's what you said yesterday as well
>>28886834rein in your friend bro >>28886968
>>28886810Can someone please post some of the lines for NijiEN live events/cafes/merch sales in stores/conference appearances or whatever so we can get a fair comparison? I think some of those have happened, right?
>>28887089Just read the fucking article. It shouldn't be that hard. Everything you need for proof is right here.https://note.com/anrimayura/n/nc313a6f5e28d
>Nijifriends: Hololive is COLLAPSING>HoloEN: The best months on record recently
lmao. tempus has really done a number on the nijifriends. i can't wait for the first kobo/altare collab.
>>28886300This guy is definitely biased towards Holo and clickbaits with that title, but he makes better points that apply to both companies, but I don't agree with it and they aren't really convincing. Top heavy is a problem, but one member is one member. When you consider the risks of enjou or graduation, you don't take into account that because a company has more smaller members, that the larger ones are more likely to leave. Talents going indie and taking their fanbase with them is a problem for all vtuber companies. I agree that vtubing is extremely favored for the companies and completely shits on the talents most of the time. Vshoujo's splits are better, but not exploiting your talents results in less growth. Cover's profit margin is even higher than Anycolor's. The big two definitely don't spend nearly as much as they could on projects and hiring instead of stacking up cash. The smaller companies aren't necessarily better managed, it's just far more likely whenever they create merch they end up operating on thinner margins because they sell less compared to the variety they make and invest. The interview part is absolutely ironic considering what Niji has done to grow the entire industry over the past 3-4 years, when the interview was literally done in 2018 before they "blew up".
>>28887067LMAO, holokek will reject any proof unless it's in favor of holo. Truly pathetic, but as expected for a bunch of little rats they are.
>>28887146>Hololive is COLLAPSINGYes. See>>28887143I won't spoonfeed you the rest like you EOP tourists keep asking.
>>28886930>Then post their entire merchNoBirthday and anniversary merch are the special ones (and the more expensive ones)
>>28887143There are literally no sources anywhere in that article
>>28887067 <-meant for >>28886612
>>28887014same way the other way around.Ludwig accidentally went live on Twitch for 30s and was worried YT would void his contract.That exclusivity is why they sign these partner contracts.
>>28887118They obviously don't have any or they would have posted them yesterday. Doubt the NijiEN cafe in JP had any form of line anyway.
For the retards that keep numberfagging Reddit.https://subredditstats.com/
>>28887165We want Tempus to succeed though. It's JP that we want to fail.
>>28887118
>>28886572Over production almost never comes into account for these companies, especially not enough for a 10% difference. The simpler answer is just that Holo merch just has higher margins, i.e. the price is higher.
>28886747>You guys are delusional with reality to the point you have to invent narrativesstop projecting so much nijikek
>>28887208This article basically debunks Holokeks' delusions.https://note.com/anrimayura/n/nc313a6f5e28d
Actually, yeah, isn't this thread uber fast for EU hours?Is the Mag generating that much hype and fear?
>>28887289that doesn't makes sense when both of them sell merch at roughly the same pricepoint, Ie 10k yen
>>288873292-3 people spamming on cooldown with inane BS with nothing being done about it.
>ina can't even beat shuho..holokeks?
>>28887329I don't know if it is the mag specifically, but someone clearly dropped that note article in some nijidiscord and they've come here to shit up the thread over it
>>28887208Anon, most of that article is ramblings of a 5ch schizo. Now get me some numbers page boy. I would actually love to see a financial report from early this year for both Anycolor and Cover. You know, the thing you hinted at.
>>28887327Maybe, but even without any article, it is clear that holokeks are dumb as fuck
>Shu 12K>Ina 6KLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>28887143Holy fuck>He thinks subs fucking matter>He doesn't realize that everywhere between Jan/Feb people were slowing down in activity because of HoloFes>He is commenting on fucking CCV when it was during CCVID>Literally NO SOURCES>actually trying to use this as proof
>>28884516Aieeeee what about the creative freedom though?
>>28886256well yeah, Kuzuha hasn't played Valo at all, he's addicted to Lol and practicing for Koshien.
>>28887443He knows more than you will EOP tourist. You're dumb as fuck if you think your own biases are more qualified than his.
>>28887448Why lie?
>>28887429>>28887448oh look another discord raid
imagine being so mad about tempus that you spam rage-filled nonsense on cooldown for hours at a time.
>>28887448>12Kare you counting everyone in the collab?
>>28887143>Checked profile>Only makes articles about the demise of HololiveUhuh, so you expect me to believe a schizo making numerous articles about the fall of Hololive? You also want me to believe that writer who has been predicting the fall of China for every year for 20 years now?
>>28887527Come now page boy. Give me numbers to disprove any biases, don't just seethe and dilate.
>>28886943kill yourself already
>>28887545She's applying the magic bilibili formula to CCV
>>28887545It's what they do.
>>28887464>He thinks subs fucking matterYes, subs are passive income>He doesn't realize that everywhere between Jan/Feb people were slowing down in activity because of HoloFesThat's when Rushia got fired and the net losses began my dude>He is commenting on fucking CCV when it was during CCVIDFor the last time there was no cull, Susan was removing bots and the viewership pre-CCVID never was fully metNot spoonfeeding you the rest because the sources are right there, Holokek
>>28887443You are just proving my point, dumbass
>>28887289Nope. Simply not true.Here's Luca Kaneshiro's birthday pack:https://nijisanji-store.com/products/luca-kaneshiro-birthday-202210k yen for a B2 tapestry, acrylic plate, button, and acrylic keychain. Here's Gawr Gura's birthday pack:https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/gawrgura_bd202212k yen for a custom bowl, custom full-size plushie, 34 x 60cm rubber mat, custom chopsticks and fork set, and a post card.You're just absolutely, sincerely delusional if you think Gura had better profit margins with all that custom one-off goods than Luca's pile of 10 cent acrylic stuff.
>>28887598>23 followersreally nijikeks?
>>28887598>5 monthsjesus
>>28887289The niji birthday goods are 10k yen. You can make those at wholesale price for less thank 1k yen
>>28887598Fucker is actually mental what the hell.
>>28887598He's an oldfag on 5ch. He knows way more about this industry than you EOP tourist Holokeks do.
>>28887598Holy shit, is this actually the meme of>Nervous man says hololive will die again for the 5th time this year
>>28887751mental illness runs deep in nijisanji and its fanbase.
>>28887737You realized they changed the designs of the merch so that they have to pay even less now right? Because it was costing them too much to begin with?
>>28887686Still no numbers? Damn, I even held out hope you would deliver for once.
>>28887598lmao
>>288877371k yen is overselling it, the entire set would cost you about 8 dollars on etsy if you were to custom commisson it, I'm sure with the economy of scale working in their favour they could drive the price way down
>>28887598author is the least schizo nijifan
>>28887819Those are business reports bro
what do you think of this vagina plot?
>>28887784>Believing a schizo since it fits their narrativeTake your meds
>>28887623That's some first-grade seethe, thank you
>>28887598literally this image holy shit
>>28887865>Unsourced bullshit with no evidence from some random unqualified Nijifag is business reports
Holokeks still haven't refuted their net losses from February 2022 onwards. Not even Holofes saved their ongoing debts kek
>>28887870kinda accurate?
>>28887821I still love that King part.
>>28887870here's from may
>>28887870uou
So what triggered the nijischizo to spam his garbage now? Mag?
>Hololive just sold out a concert for Calli of all fucking people in Japan, somehow this means they're going bankrupt
Tempus is being shilled so hard because it's cover's last chance in the EN market. They're opening auditions, but that's just a formality to make it appear as if they're still making a profit. Ever since Coco and Rushia left, the company's been bleeding viewers and money. It's only a matter of time before the entire corporation implodes. They simply cannot keep up with Nijisanji's output
>>28888048see >>28887439
>>28888047Iofi of all people sold out 200 pieces of limited merch sets aswell in under 10 minutes.
>>28888047Using hired dancers and it all being prerecorded. Actual fucking bacha
>>28887696Those birthday packs are almost never pre-made in huge amounts. You don't have the same margins on every single thing you sell.There's only 3 possibilities. Sell higher, Produce cheaper, or sell more. If things are usually made to order for a limited time, then either Holo makes theirs for cheaper or they sell it for more overall.
/#/ somehow manages to be even worse than /pol/ at times. holy shit.
Okay you little shits, Nijisanji is most likely not gonna make it to 2023 and Niji management keeps debuting failures for months now. Should I short the stock now or wait for another week after the iLoser debuts?
>>28888052THEY'RE BLEEDING MONEY INCREASINGLY NERVOUS MAN HAS SAID FOR 6 MONTHS IN A ROWJP side has been increasingly getting sponsorships,please stop this
>>28888052No shit but retarded Holokeks will cope otherwise. EN is literally their last hope now that JP was killed after their top 2 earners were fired.
>>28888029the whole year
>>28888115>>/lgbt/Go back to your safe space
I'm disappointed in Stray streams. They had all the markings of being number gold with cute cats but it's just kind of typical.
>>28888115seethe more tranny
>>28888115Holokeks are the Qoomers and Ukraine shills of /vt/, nothing new.
>>28888139Anon if you're shorting stocks you need to be doing it now, so yes do it
Please someone grudgepost this nijitard, there's so much seething in from this guy right now it will serve as indisputable proof of NijiLies for weeks
>>28888185Hey! Stop showing how wide they've become for how much I've fucked them! That's inappropriate!
>>28888218Numbers just seem to kinda die whenever it gets to a story part, people just wanna watch a cute platformer.
>>28887964I've asked you like 3 times now to produce a source for said numbers. Come now page boy, run along.Ask Noor while your at it to give you the financial report for the 22 quarters for nijisanji.
>>28888139Buy now, because Holo will collapse much sooner, increasing the stock price of Anycolor. Then, after 3 more months, you can sell it.
>>28888139wait after the debut. most likely gonna pump unless some Niji does a yab again like they always do.
>>28888257why would you give him more attention than he already has?
>>28888139If you short it, you're actually just gambling. At least wait a few more weeks to see if it's actually going to go below their opening price. Currently 5.6% up after the hype, but that's only the public price. Most of the business investors bought in at like 4500.>Nijisanji is most likely not gonna make it to 2023They said this in 2020 and 2021 too. I wouldn't underestimate cult-like fandoms ability to hang onto relevance, both Niji and Holo.
>>28884827>Azumanga DaiohBased
>>28888282Stock prices of Anycolor has soared these past 2 months alone
>>28887439>Vox's love slave
>>28887696it has to be overproduction no other way around it.
>>28888115Oh nyoCaptcha: DAD54
>>28888314>Most of the business investors bought in at like 4500.they bought in waaay cheaper
Why Nijifags always say how great Anycolor is rather than how great Nijisanji's talents are?Are they corporate buttlickers?
>>28888298We're not getting rid of him unless the mods do their fucking jobs, so we might as well make sure everyone knows this schizo discredits Nijifags as a whole
>>28884653She also has a twitcast and fanbox for Mike
>>28888218The thing about Stray is that only the beginning and the end (Depending on how much the streamer is paying attention to the story/gets emotionally invested in the robots/b-12). Everything in between people don't seem to give a single fuck about, outside of the cat doing cat things by climbing.
>>28888139It's being valued at over a billion usd. That feels overvalued to me for an business structure that's so minimal in essence.
>>28888282You are seething too much, holokek. That won't help your holowhores to get out of a shithole they are in.
>>28888377Speaking of mods...>>28886741 Still up
>>28888337They've been in fucking freefall since the stock opened
>>28888374My oshis are Sukoya, Gundou, and Sakura
>>28888420Still no numbers huh? You've dilated yourself so there's more asshole than the rest of your body anon. Now go lick Noors shit stained feet and get those reports I asked for, page boy.
>>28888437...And the Nijifag's posts aren't deleted. Does no one fucking report in this thread?
>>28888185we on page 10, gonna get the starsJP for the next thread
>>28888392>>28888218>>28888276Stray is an odd game because it's billed as a cat simulator, but what it actually is is a standard issue fetch quest esque platformer, complete with dialogue and quest givers. You could literally replace the cat with a tiny robot or even just a regular person and really nothing about the plot would change at all
>>28888444Source?
>>28888573
>>28886810Woah, that guy doesn't have a mask on in the bottom picture. Hope the police didn't take him away.
>>28888626AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>28888626>-24.61%flare_oh_jesas_soundpost.webm
>>28888626It's recovering thanks to Iluna
>>28888626-24%>-24%-24%>-24%-24%>-24%-24%>-24%
>>28887118I'm not trying to defend or shitfling or anything here, but I'm pretty sure those cafes are done through reservation rather than first come first served. Or at least, some of t hem do in Japan from my own experience.
>>28888626>>28888691Here ya go anon
>>28888674
>>28888709sure it is, anon. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>28888709Oh shit this reminds me of the terra luna crypto shitshow
>>28888724What? Holoshit's net losses? They're probably higher than that
>>28888626>>28888674>-24%
>>28888573IPO opened at 5550 yen and 1 month chart looks awful. triple bottom even. Anycolor's overpriced
Don't let holokek delusions distract you from the fact that Cover is in massive debt and losing money every day while Nijisanji profits are soaring
>2k people already waiting 3 hours befor the streamI think the homos will mogg niji by a mile
>>28888626Fuck i can't wait for it to go below opening IPO
>Sana still hasn't gotten a single 1m vodThis is honestly kind of sad.
>>28888626>>28888674AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>28888819You're delusional, Iluna will have a 10k waiting room 24 hours out
All of this Holocope when Cover probably has even more net losses than Anykara while Anykara isn't even the one in debt kek
>>28888626>>28888674-25%
>28888875tone it down. your bait is far too obvious. you'll be le ebin internet mischief maker one day, anon.
>>28888626>>28888674It's amazing how much nijicope presenting simple facts and logic creates
>>28888819This is just asking to be grudgeposted
>>28888888WASTED
>>28888934They got more followers than Tempus though
>5ch said post
>>28888953Manipulated graphs aren't facts and logic seething holokek, you know as well as I do that Cover is a dying company
>>28888626>>28888674Doctored graphs.
Blue strong
Wouldn't be surprised if Bora isn't the last Niji jumping ship holy fuck.
>>28889036nijicope
How's the Niji twitter audience gonna react to this?
>>28888991did someone seriously manually translate 5ch?
>>28887577Daddy left them and mommy never gave them attention so they try to farm you's in the Mongolian basket weaving site as a coping mechanism
>>28889088sup /k/
>>28888991>Niji EN (China) vs Holo EN (California)whoa they're just like us
>>28889041Oh there's more on the way out already.
>>28889088Based
>>28889040and almost no meme buff, damn
>>28889088Nice collection
>>28888107To follow up, we can compare Niji's random merch to the Tokyo Tower collab.https://shop.hololivepro.com/products/tokyotower_vol1?variant=43127632822492https://shop.nijisanji.jp/s/niji/item/list?ima=4103&page=0&tp=PHYSICALTokyo Tower / Niji Store, prices in yenAcrylic Stands2200 / 1500Pin Badges440 / 500Clear Files1540 for 4 / 400T shirts3300 / 3000-4000B2 Tapestry3300 / 3500You can see Niji has slightly higher prices for the tapestry, pin badges, clear files, and Tshirts. But Holo has a huge difference in Acrylic stands. For this specifically, idk if they sell others cheaper on their store.Or let's look at Subaru's birthday merch.12500 yen for 5 things. On the Niji store, the panel is 1500 yen, stuffed doll estimated at 1500 yen, wristband at 1500 yen, postcard at 300 yen, mug at 2500 yen. Total of 7300 yen.
>>28888548Gave up on reporting long ago since it seems to be just a fucking cosmetic function.The meidos probably enjoy the shitposting.
>>28889169blue buff vs meme bufftough battle
>>28889144CA is Canada
>>28888674>>28888626AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>28889212Ah shit, thanks for reminding me I need to buy Nui
>>28889088What's the overlap between Pomudachis and SSRB?
>>28889226I'm a firm believer in the nijijanny rrat after this thread.
>>28884530 I don't know why people here are suddenly acting like 1-2k CCV would be bad for them. A week ago we all thought they were DOA.
>>28889226here's a rrat, meidos use /#/ to blow off steam.
>>28888375The ones prior to the IPO did, but the price at which most of the businesses bought in during the IPO is estimated by other companies.Why is it so easy to bait this thread?
Bros isn't 2k 4 hours away from Debut kind of huge? Blue man doesn't have memes either
>>28889408OH NO NO HOLOKEKS
>>28889334Have you not noticed the amount of shitposters we have gotten over the last week anon?
>>28889326i mean he clearly exists but I think he just took off and isn't around for most of the thread, the thing about moderation here is that things only get deleted if the meido present cares about it, unless it's obviously rulebreaking like pornWhich is why baiting meidos to come in here with porn is stupid because there's a decent chance you'll just get some rando who'd delete it from the report queue and never look back
>>28889435It is. I'm expecting 20k minimum
>>28889408It's a fact thought that they have been falling, and soon they'll be below their opening price
>>28884530That would be better than 90% of holostarsJP
>>28889458The mag posting may have been a mistake.
>>288895263k would be better than fucking NijiEN females lol
>>28889561mag posting fried their brains.
>>2888943520-30K
>>28889561Mag is never a mistake
>>28888805>debt = badmost financially literate nijiposter
>>28889435It's big. 20k is the floor.
>>28889739Bro...
>
>>28888626>>28888674one chart gets posted and suddenly all the /biz/posters crawl out of the woodwork
>>28888826I can't wait for Riku to dump and run.
>>28889561There's a lot of glow on the board nowadays.
>>28889739Will it be good when Cover is under by end of Q4? KEK
>>28889877Yeah right after Amazon folds due to all that debt.
>>28889877Please explain to me what cover is losing money on
Tell me sisters will a live masturbation stream by finana finally get her to the 20k line?
>>28889928please stop entertaining the nijinigger
>>28889848Not saying it will happen, but if it would, would that be the 7th trumpet for Nijisanji?Board might be unusable for real. And lets be honest, the same would be true if Yagoo just quits cold turkey.
>>28889928Viewership and superchat totals being way down from a year ago???
>>28889951I want to see if I can extract a new form of Nijicope from him at this point, his repetitive statements are just fucking boring
>>28890019Those are profit losses. What expenses are Cover incurring that would send them into debt? What do you imagine they're spending money on?
>>28889977>Yagoo >quitsThe old man hasn't even given up on his Holostars project. I mean sure the homos aren't operating on a loss but you'd think he'd get a clue by now.
>>28890035anon we both know he'll just fall back on shit like >>28887327 all over again, please stop encouraging him to elaborate because he'll make bold proclaimations then strut around like he won
>>28889943Hmm I might watch, so I guess it might reach that
>>28889977If he dumps his shares and runs it would be illegal so yeah. If he starts selling slowly, it might be but people are usually aware if the head of the company just starts slowly selling shares.l and have time to accommodate changes, mostly to who is going to be the new majority holder. If someone like Bushiroad buys out Cover for example, as long as the talents stay I don’t see people sounding trumpets, but idk what companies are as close to Niji.
>>28889326Let me give you a hint , the nijiJanny is a Pomucuck that faggot banned me before just for saying pomu is a whore
>>28890131Profit losses reduce budget, going below that means they're likely in debt on their business ventured that failed??? Why are Holofags so economically illiterate?
>>28890246>idk what companies are as close to Niji.Bilibili
>make joke Hololive shill post >anon asks my address>post Covers public HQ address as a joke >you have been blocked from posting for violating Global Rule 4My fucking sides, where did they get these new jannies? The zoo?
>5 posts deletedGood, hope they're gone now
>>28890246Bilibili. I'm not even joking, Chinese corpos already won 17% of Nijisanji, it's not unrealistic for Riku to sell out to them, Bilibili would want ownership over their livers anyway since A Soul died
Can't wait for the fujotards shitting this thread to get magged from tomorrow on.
>>28890246Disney JP or NBC Universal is the most likely buyer for Cover.
>>28890171The class clown exist for a reason though anon It's funny to laugh at the retard as he gets magged on
>>28890358Literally Nijijanny, just check the state of this thread
kayfabe bros the yagoo and riku of the mainstream kayfabing vince mcmahon just retired....
>>28890328nijizhanji will finally become real
>>28890375>Chinese corpos already won 17% of NijisanjiProof next thread, Holofag?
>>28890375>A Soul diedWait, they did?
>>28890246KLab
>>28890358
>>28890325Nigger explain what Cover's business expenses are and how they could be going into debt over themConcerts? Those always make money, Calli's Sololive sold out fully. Merch? Sold out in hours, every time. What is incurring costs which requires revenue from streaming to prop up and compensate?
>>28890246Yes, he wont just dump it, as you say pretty illegal. But even if disclosed and shown with a purpose who is taking over, the reason for the Ipo becomes clear. Cash out while he could.
>>28890660he's making shit up, don't bite the bait anon
>>28890660How are they gonna pay back all of the fees to set up that shit, Holofag? Cover overshot the turnout, so look for some hefty fees for everything.
>>28890504dying, more like, they aren't dead yet but they did take a pretty huge hit after the whole "1% of donations make it to the actual talent" thing broke
>>28890246How would it count as illegal exactly? Just genuinely curious since he built it from the ground up and just cashing out and leaving things to the new stakeholdersUnless we getting concrete news that they were using bots to pump numbers and manipulate merch sales data
>>28890768>How are they gonna pay back all of the fees to set up that shit, Holofag?With the money from Tickets which sold out?? Are you going to claim that sold out concerts somehow failed to make their money back?
>>28890768...how do you overshoot a filled out venue
Would Ame and Ina be able to funnel to the stars?
>>28890779there's a bunch of laws regarding what you can do with shares as a CEO precisely to avoid scam companies starting up a company then cashing out and bailing just before the company goes belly up. It's why Jeff bezos makes a notice of how many shares he's going to sell months in advance
>>28890853Come to think of it, did Calli's concert also have merch?
Finally, some new Nijicope. I knew it was there, just had to dig for it for a while
>>28890779Pump and dump IPO scams are actually illegal
>>28890894Thanks for the explanation anon
>>28889212Niji = black company confirmed?
>>28890916yes it did, alot of merchhttps://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1549982502881701888?
>>28890916Yes. And it also sold out, completely
>>28890853>>28890867When booking a venue you literally have to pay them back the rental fee. If it sells for more than expected, there's a surcharge. They're gonna want millions. Basic protocol for setting up concert venues dumbass.
>>28890916kek, Holofags also don't know that Cover also has to pay back the retailers for sponsoring their merch. They must be more economically illiterate than libertarians
>>28891055So basically, the more profitable the concert is, the more you have to pay the concert venue, meaning that selling out is actually a bad thing. Incredible nijicope, glad I asked
>>28891055...the tickets were fixed price and limited to the venue capacityHow do you "sell for more than expected"?
>>28891176Correct. It sucks. But this shit costs money. Can't freeload your way around, Holofag.
The real reason Niji merch isn't as profitable and also the reason it's generic is because they contract their store and merch production to Sony Music Solutions. This eats their profit margins but is a much easier solution than having an in house merch and store team. You can go on Sony Music Solutions website and see all the generic stuff they offer to companies like Anycolor.
>>28891055are you actually fucking retarded
>>28891055>If it sells for more than expectedthe people would be outside
What was the last time Ina got sub 9k?
>>28891055
>>28891291No because I literally work for an entertainment venue in a large American city.
>>28890876No. Neither will stream long enough for it to even have chance of happening.
>>28891212By going Anykara's route of selling tickets and then having to refund because half the talents and staff got chink flu from not following safety protocol.All the fees, none of the profits.
Ina called HoloStars family and people are doomposting. Never seen so many deleted posts before.
>>28891366LMAO.
>If you sell out the concert venue, the concert venue will charge more money than you payed them initially, leading to you losing money the more tickets you sell!!!Someone screencap that shit and post it to the catalog. This nigger needs to feel shame
>>28890876Gura said yesterday that she was going to stream today, but you know
>>28891522But that's how it literally works? You need to pay the discontinuation fees.
>>28891522That's actually how it works. They probably weren't expecting that large of a turnout. Hell I'd charge them more if it's that big of a deal. Anyone who works in ticketing knows that this is just basic protocol.
>28891588doesn't sound like a very profitable business model. you'd think concerts would have stopped being a thing decades ago because of this.
>>28891478Unsubscribe
>>28891588What discontinuation fees, the concert went off without a hitchNigger if you could lose money on selling out a concert no one would fucking do them
>>28891588>>28891666>source: I made it up.
>>28891522How about you do it yourself, stay there and never come back.
>it's still posting on cooldown
>>28891588BTS' company must be fucking bankrupt by your logic
>>28891588By your logic why would anyone in the world ever hold concerts since it's just operating at a loss every time
>discontinuation feesThey weren't talking about the Niji concert.
>Venue sold out, merch sold out, albums sold out, digital album sales at top 3 worldwide>somehow Mori and UMG is losing money and is in debt
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Someone screencap this concert venue nigga and compile it My fucking sides
Holoan ganbare
>>28891936Actually let's notI'm convinced it's bait, but this is actually hilarious
>>28891936Damn it anon, I'm having fun shitting on him or her, 2 and a half hours is still a long ways to go and it's already early morning here, need to keep entertained, I don't have coffee anymore as well
Kiara: Homos are only good when they're in my company.Damn, it really is all out war.
Hilarious stuff today
>>28891936but the concert one is funny...
>>28892190did she really say homos? b&rp
So apparently fauna explicitly tries to avoid overlap. Shame the other ENs aren't like this.
gega senesis....
>>28892288Meanwhile Bae actively seeks for overlap
>>28892288Hopefully EN3 will have another schedule autist so they can get the others onboard with actually coordinating their shit
>>28892288BASED NUMBERCHAD
>>28891055it's been awhile since I had the opportunity to use this template
2,5k waiting room the blue guy 2,5 hours until his debut
>>2889240920-30k
>>28892288Not that it matters when Ame just schedules everything over her anyway.
>>28892340Hey sometimes Bae gets sniped out of a free slot. She's truly numbers chaos
>>28890485"Led by CEO Tazumi (43.11%), the company’s major shareholders include LC Fund (a fund of China’s Legend Capital, 10.29%), HODE HK (Hong Kong-based subsidiary of Chinese video giant Bilibili, 7.34%), Skyland Ventures (6.91%), Sony Music Entertainment (5.14%), Ken Honda (Founder of Freakout Holdings, 4.61%), Shinya Tsurui (Anycolor’s CFO, 3.00%), and Influencer Investment Holdings (subsidiary of Adways, 3.50%)."here's your source. https://thebridge.jp/en/2022/04/anycolor-files-for-ipo
>>28892288Based numberchad, I wish more of Council was like thisI guess Mumei is to some degree
>>28892409Buy buy buy
>>28892340Bae both seeks to rush headfirst into overlaps while also having shit luck with numbers in general (Surprise Gura in free slots)
>>28891214Still blows my mind that Miko is basically the only one who is using Twitch as it should. These watchalongs should all be on Twitch. The "Watch Party" feature makes them so much more enjoyable.
>>28892409fuck, I want to go to bed, but I also want to be there for all the excitement and/or disappointment.
>>28892782You have a little time, snag a nap and set an alarm. It's going to be fun either way.
this is sad
>>28892686Pekora also uses it for watchalongs only. Although it's been a while since the last one.
>>28892847nta but same predicament, I don't think my brain would be able to wake up once I sleep since I'm exhausted from work so I'll just keep on chugging along, anyhow nijifriend is entertaining so that helps
>>28893119Less upvotes than Holotempus shilling on their own subreddit
>>28884099>NDA breakerNah I think they are very secure in their decision of firing her.
>>28893119lmao
>>28892548bilibili is 8% now>ANYCOLOR 香港幻電(HODE HK LIMIT 2,388,000 7.98%
>>28893119isn't she a top niji?
>>28893119Scared?
>>28893327yes
>>28884099Why do people do this shit with her?
>2 week vacation for posting Cover HQ addressHonestly it makes me want to spam CP on this board.
>>28893327only in subsher ccv has been terrible for some months
>>28892409I want to stay up to see all the shit that will happen throughout the night but it's at 3Am..
>>28893515What's stopping you anon?
>>28893515So Gura lewds?
>>28892265She basically just said that she doesn't really care about male vtubers but as a "patriotic" Hololive member she wants to see everyone in Holopro succeed.
>>28893643Chicken is based as ever.
>>28893515I knew that was Cover's address but I still reported you nonetheless, >>28890647
Almost at 3k
>>28889408OH NOOOOOOOOO
>>28893515As the anon who asked for your address as a joke, sorry but how it developed was hilarious.
>>28893515Just appeal the ban in 3 days don't be such a baby.
>>28893715bros....are they gonna make it?
>>28893551By nijisanji standards this puts her in the top 20, possibly even top 10
Japs what the fuck are you doing..
>>28893827I hope not
>>28893845Females maybe, overall she’s like right outside top 20. That said, I can’t believe we’re still taking the reddit anon seriously.
>>28893975>Holostars watchalong on the HoloEn channel? Is this Nijisanji?not wrong
Fauna talking about Susan culling
3K waiting 2 hours out? Not bad. 35K possible? Niche stuff like Holostars is probably going to have less casuals and tourists so it's hard to extrapolate from other waiting rooms but .. 45K? Will people take the over or under on 50K?
>>28894094Nips are last based bastion...
>>28893975Unicorns were always the base of HoloJP.
>>28894087why wouldn't you, just because it doesn't support your worldview?