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ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>37,084: Pekora (Hololive)
>28,427: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>27,162: Gura (Hololive)
>21,490: Subaru (Hololive)
>21,473: Kronii (Hololive)
>18,090: Miko (Hololive)
>14,663: Rushia (Hololive)
>14,035: Botan (Hololive)
>13,375: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>13,125: Toya (Nijisanji)
>13,043: Hayato Kagami (Nijisanji)
>12,876: Shibuya Hal (Indie)
>12,700: Shibuya Hal (Indie)
>12,189: Nene (Hololive)
>11,603: Fauna (Hololive)
>11,462: Kanata (Hololive)
>10,866: Uto (Indie)
>10,445: Mito (Nijisanji)
>10,333: Towa (Hololive)
>10,140: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>10,060: Lize Helesta (Nijisanji)

[Anonymous No.]

SC for NijiEN Wave3

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>>11415143
DISAPPOINTING!
Alright, I'm done ragging on these midgets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11415143
Nijisanji need to release wave 4 and wave 5 to make wave 3 looks average.

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>>11415187
10 waves by the end of next year.

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>>11415187
I don't really see how anyone in Wave 3 is really worse than Petra or Rosemi for example. I don't think it's a problem with the girls, Niji just overplayed their hand and now the more established girls are eating the new one's views/money.

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How much did Irys earn last night for that guerilla stream?

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>TOP WINNERS OF THE DAY - OCTOBER 2021

1) Korone (Hololive) - 71k - Birthday 3D
2) Ayame (Hololive) - 86k - 3D Concert
3) Hal (Indie) - 57k - CR lottery
4) Noel (Hololive) - 101k - Outfit Reveal
5) Fubuki (Hololive) - 72k - Birthday 3D
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 45k - Minecraft (ENxSubaru)
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 93k - 3rd Anniversary
8) Pekora (Hololive) - 26.2k - Mario Kart 8DX
9) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 53.4k - CR Cup Tournament
10) Luna (Hololive) - 57k - Birthday 3D
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 52k - TotsuClubhouse51
12) Subaru (Hololive) - 38k - Card Unboxing with Luna
13) Kanae (Nijisanji) - 54k - Outfit Reveal
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 36k - Minecraft

[Anonymous No.]

Talking about superchats watame has earned more that $12k in her recent stream after concert. The stream is still ongoing as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11415311
95,846 yen

[Anonymous No.]

>>11415311
Around $800.

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>>11414851
Only counting one Gura stream? You do you anon.
3 Nijis (2 Kuzuhas) and 7 Holos.
Hal is out of the top 10.

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>>11415187
Well Nina and Millie are up next for SC.

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>>11415380
>>11415408
Oof, thanks lads

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>>11415412
I mean the only reason why gura got 2 stream is because she got problem on her 1st stream no?

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>>11415412
>Only counting one Gura stream? You do you anon.
It's the same stream. I docked one of the duplicates from Toya as well.

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>>11415484
A stream is a stream to me. She can just leave it there and call it a day. At least her previous one will still be included in her total stream time and watch hours, which is more important then the daily chart.

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>>11415524
Yep, sounds reasonable. If she had switched games or streamed much later, it'd make more sense to count it as two, but she got back in reasonably quickly and was doing the same thing she was doing just before cutting out.

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>>11415143
Looking at Reimu's stream the chat replay is missing so it could well be a situation similar to Fauna's where a chunk of the money is lost to the void

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PriConne making full use of their assets and making their money worth out of that sponsored karaoke.

They must have an ABSURD amount of money to burn because not only they made a full fucking anime season (with the only purpose to ad the game) but they made it well too (I watched it even before I knew the game) and renewed it to a second season.

I can only imagine how much money they have to burn on that, they could easily make "Hololive vs. Priconne, the anime" with the money they burn to heat the CEO's office.
Didn't Calli sing some OP or ED for them lately?

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>>11415790
Wait they are using that as an ad? Wow.
They got sick Gura though, that said the Priconne song is the best song in that karaoke.

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I wonder, does Vshojo CEO see the numbers that a Holo/Niji 3D concert bring in and wonder why they can't just organize one as well? I mean, that type of event will not only bring hype to your company, but money as well. Heck, during concert, they can also introduce Vshojo gen 2 to maximize the number.

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>>11415849
>and wonder why they can't just organize one as well
kek, they can organize a thousand of those
>finding someone in their roster that can sing and dance tho...

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>>11415790
Calli wrote and produce a song for them as part of the sponsorship.
It’s her worst performing song funny enough.
>>11415849
The only one who can sing from Vshojo is Nyanners and Ironmouse. Ironmouse is eternally bedridden or something.
They would have sales data from the Ai concert to see if it’s worth it.

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>>11415849
Vshojo are not really marketed as idols or performers so I would assume they'd get less interest for it.
I assume it would look like a game show?

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>>11415790
I mean yeah Cygames has a fuckton of money, that's not exactly breaking news

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>>11415902
Ibasho is not the best. It was singing Calli in the beginning of her singing journey so it does not sound great.
And lyrics are weak too since the song is not personal to Calli.
Debuff vocals, debuff lyrics. Kind of soulless for a Calli song.

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>>11415950
Isn't that EN Priconne? So it would be Crunchyroll.

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>>11415847
Of course they are.

For those who don't know the anime, here is a very good highlight from it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Czhkgh86_j0

The whole show is pretty much
>you like this? YOU LIKE THIS DON'T YOU?!
>he could be you, download the game and play!

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>>11415977
https://www.juventus.com/en/news/articles/juventus-team-up-with-cygames

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>>11415980
Grass
I'll assume it is some harem showcase. I don't even want to turn on my vpn for this.

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>>11415790
Cygames owns the following mobile games
-Shadowverse
-Granblue Fantasy
-Priconne (Princess connect Re:dive, a reboot of the failed Princess Connect)
-Uma musume
They definitely have enough money to throw at an Anime to act as advertising, and if they greenlit a second season they must have been happy with the results.

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>>11415905
Niji livers are also not marketed as such but they still can perform so what's Vshojo's excuse?

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>>11415977
Breaking news: Crunchyroll (a company that was recently bought by one of the world's biggest media conglomerates for $1.2 billion) also has a fuck ton of money

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>>11415902
I was kinda curious about her sponsored song a couple days ago and asked around in some fan discords what they thought about it but barely anyone who isn't a big fan of Calli was even aware that it was a thing. They just knew that she was doing something that was sponsored but didn't know more than that.
This is also anecdotal as fuck so take it with a grain of salt.

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>>11416090
Anime was basically konosuba but a little bit more serious from what I remember.
>>11416118
Must be newfags then. CR sponsorship was very early into their careers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11416057
Are you sea?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11416090
huh, did Hololive get sponsored by Granblue? I think they didn't get sponsored for horse game but I remember some of them playing Granblue a bit.
>>11416184
h-hai

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>>11415849
I don't think a concert would be the right kind of event for them. For one thing, half the girls in the roster aren't even interested in singing at all. The ones who are have been putting out stuff on their own.
There have been a lot of talks of a mouse - nyanners duet though so that may be in the cards in the future.

In any case, the company's anniversary is coming up next month and just the other day mouse and nyanners have hinted at something very exciting happening in the near future, so we'll see what their idea of a big event is then.

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Does Vshojo have sponsors?

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>>11416233
They just got that Japanese tv partnership and Nyanners got sponsored by the Cookie game a while back.
Don't know if they have something like Bushiroad/Sony backing them though.

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>>11416057
kek, here is the short summary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ-_qcGSeXY

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>>11416092
Many of the more prominent livers have niconico history where they are expected to be good at variety entertainment while many more have an interest in singing and dancing in the first place even if it's for otaku related interests. I'm not sure if Vshojo has anyone like that, they seem to take more after the model of the dedicated Western streamer.

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>>11416298
This guy looks so fucking generic holy shit. Isekai is a mistake.

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>>11416344
>This guy looks so fucking generic holy shit. Isekai is a mistake.
He is supposed to be generic. He can't even fucking talk and communicates through mime.

He is the ultimate "self insert" for the audience, he is not supposed to be a character, he is supposed to be (you)

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>>11416395
Yeah I get that. The ultra generic mc is just very common in isekais and I am definitely not interested in it.

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>>11415849
Anyone else sort of surprised how lucrative these concerts are? Ticket sales along are easy six figures, then merch probably means they clear over 7 figures. The next company wide concert will be a monster for Cover, that's for sure. Then whenever Myth gets on stage

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>>11416223
Subaru got sponsored I think?
>>11416266
They mostly have the generic streamer ones like g-fuel.
>>11416344
Instead of waifus they have mommies

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>>11416429
Yeah but this is not even a "generic MC". You know those hentai where they show it from the 1st person perspective of the mute protagonist, literally from the POV of his eyes?

That's Priconne. The whole anime is about (you) growing your harem of powerful battle girls and if you are not satisfied with the 23 minutes per episode you can always download the game and continue being "him" there

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>>11416428
Cover made around 3-6+m in revenue from ticket sales from Holofes 2 iirc.

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>>11416428
I've never gone on a concert because the ticket prices always seemed prohibitively expensive, so I know they get a lot of money that way.
The merch figures getting thrown around in this thread, which is usually only for the personalized ones since those have a limited stock, are really high too. SCs are great for numberfagging but I am happy that these girls have a great revenue source outside of Youtube paychecks.

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive EN - Superchat - October
>$ 110,806

********

HoloMyth
>$ 59,512

Mori
>$ 19,098
>$ 1,909 avg

Gura
>$ 20,846
>$ 2,316 avg

Ina
>$ 4,817
>$ 688 avg

Ame
>$ 4,325
>$ 480 avg

Kiara
>$ 10,426
>$ 1,042 avg

*******

Project Hope - IRyS
>$ 12,491
>$ 1,249 avg

*******

HoloCouncil
>$ 38,803

Mumei
>$ 5,300
>$ 883 avg

Kronii
>$ 10,159
>$ 1,693 avg

Baelz
>$ 7,000
>$ 700 avg

Sana
>$ 10,309
>$ 1,472 avg

Fauna
>$ 6,035
>$ 1,207 avg

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>>11416554
For reference, Fubuki and Ayame limited merch sold out in under a minute.
Someone scrapped the data for booth and found that Ayame had ~800 stock listed for her limited merch. These merch packs are 100-120 usually.

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>>11416677

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>>11416664
For nearly halfway through the month those are some godawful numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>11416677
Someone explain Ayame to me. What makes her successful?

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>>11416765
As compared to what?

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>>11416785
She is cute.
Also she rarely streams so the people who tied themselves to the Ayame train just try and consume whatever she puts out. It is like a dehydrated man in a desert.
There are entire clipper channels dedicated to recycling seconds long ayame soundbites because they are Ayame clippers and that is what you have to do for Ayame content to last.

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>>11416785
Scarcity

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>>11416786
Well let's just use Gen1 because we have the most data for them, here is their average monthly earnings for 2021
>Mori - $69,272
>Kiara - $65,223
>Gura - $57,196
>Ame - $34,468
>Ina - $30,652
Half those numbers to get to roughly what you'd expect 14 days into a month and compare them to what they actually got in the first half of October and that's pretty dire

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>>11416859
She also in Hologra often (as well as other inactive members).
People fucking love Ayame from Hologra.

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>>11416946
Eh, part is dilution due to Gen 2 but remember that SC are not evenly distributed. Anniversaries, outfits, birthdays will contributed disproportiately. For regulars streams you'd expect them to be well below average

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>>11416946
Didn't they have anniversary, birthday and new outfit this year to pad their numbers?

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It seems Vshojo is only receivingnvery run-of-the-mill sponsors instead of anything big like a game appearance or card games made with their likeness. They don't get invited much to conventions also. It seems for the 2nd biggest vtuber group in the world, they are not too favores by sponsors that much.

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>>11417106
It's just a rather unremarkable month so far based on events. Maybe they'd get a shower when the outfits come out but the anniversary has passed and there is no more birthdays to be had.

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Since we have heard no news regarding HoloID1 3D debut, is it safe to assume that 3D might never come at all?

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>>11417213
They have two months to keep their promise. Guess they didn't expect lockdown to be like this.

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>>11417213
It’s more on Japan fucking up the Covid response resulting in no tourists for over a year.

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>Monthly SCs
I haven't completed this yet. Gura and Ame only did 9 & 10 streams respectively this month

[Anonymous No.]

>>11417213
Every time I read this shit, I always frown, learn what's happening beyond your lawn

[Anonymous No.]

>>11417213
japan is completely locked up

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>>11415334
Nijisanji needs to go 14-3 the rest of the way to win this month.

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>>11417418
July to September look really low for Gura. Wonder if the birthday drained people a lot with birthday SCs and merch stuff taking a lot of the cash. Council probably affected that too.
Numbers might normalize to this level desu.

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>>11417470
So... Hololive wins this month I guess

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>>11417499
That's normal, check Aqua's range, within despite having gachikoi

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>>11417358
>It’s more on Japan fucking up the Covid response resulting in no tourists for over a year.
kek, they had a grand total of
>143 deaths per million people
making them the 149th out of 223 countries.

For comparison everyone in the top 50 had 1400+ deaths per 1M, and everyone in the top 20 (US, Italy and Belgium included) had 2000+ deaths per 1M

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>>11417534
Has Niji ever won one of these? i guess they would before Hololive grew big but I don't remember them having event filled months.
Last month is the most eventful with Mao 3d and the rock collab along with the assorted stuff, and I think Holo still won that.

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>>11417534
Well yeah, even niji's most buffed month of August still got beaten but it was close. You'd expect them to win any other months?

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>>11417534
Well that's so obvious it doesnt need to be said.
Pekora is doing great though, actual queen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11417637
Maybe they won august.

[Anonymous No.]

Nijisanji EN - Superchat - October
>$ 30,859

******

Wave 1
>$ 15,249

Pomu
>$ 8,628
>$ 862 avg

Elira
>$ 3,472
>$ 578 avg

Finana
>$ 3,149
>$ 787 avg

******

Wave 2
>$ 15,610

Rosemi
>$ 3,893
>$ 389 avg

Selen
>$ 7,886
>$ 606 avg

Petra
>$ 3,831
>$ 478 avg

[Anonymous No.]

>>11417621
deaths isn't an accurate measure when they were listing almost anything as a covid death in many countries for the financial incentive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11417687
That fact would just improve the Japanese standing with regards to their response and strengthen my point

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>>11417687
I don't think the japanese are in league with the lizard people jewish democrats or whoever you think is pulling the strings. They just want that shit shutdown hard after forcing the olympics.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm pretty sure Niji didn't even win during Koshien month.

[Anonymous No.]

your girls are pathetic
https://www.twitch.tv/ibai
>balloon world cup
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>11417765
>in an IMAGEboard
>posts no image
Yeah, not clicking that shit anon

[Anonymous No.]

Retardchamas please check with the embassy why our chuuba can't travel to Japan

[Anonymous No.]

>>11417841
No one's denying it. I'm just thinking someone might graduate before they ever get 3D.

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>11417891
Fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>11417891
Aloe?

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>>11417737
well I mean it's just regular people, the average faggot as much to blame as the lizard people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11417953
He probably means someone else.
Aloe has barely been there for her graduation to count. Which is annoying because of the sheer amount of people that got attached to a 2 day persona.

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>>11417213
>is it safe to assume that 3D might never come at all?
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>11417994
Saviorfag + whiteknight. Not to mention MASS is still alive to this day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11417213
Not like ID1 or Myth even want 3D.

[Anonymous No.]

I guess vsj minecraft will be sticking around for a while too

[Anonymous No.]

>>11417213
Cover just need to build 3D studio at USA and Indonesia. It's not that hard. People actually unironically said that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11418355
There's so many advantages to it.
They can use minecraft mods freely too since they don't have to care about copyright and permissions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11418355
There's no social streamer friendly game like it.

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>>11418478
They can't keep getting away with this

[Anonymous No.]

Completely unopposed timeslot with respect to the rest of Niji EN. Guess they're either going to be fucked by overlaps or fucked by the timeslot, no way out unless they increase their cap.

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>>11418420
Yeah. Office space is not an issue but equipment and personnel would be for their proprietary 3d stuff. US studio is also stupid because most of EN can't even access it.
>>11418860
I have not been keeping up with Niji EN3 at all. The cat do any karaokes yet?

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>>11418860
>Fucked by timeslots
Tell that to Veibae or Selen yesterday

[Anonymous No.]

>>11418478
>since they don't have to care about copyright and permissions.
said Tanigo, in April 2020, about his streamers

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>>11418959
Yeah, she did it in a busy timeslot and peaked at around 2.7k viewers iirc. There were like 4-5 overlapping Niji ENs that were all sub 1k during that time. Ghost also did karaoke in a busy slot and did around 1.8k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11419079
New to Twitch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11416664
>>11416946
So the monthly average for Myth is about $250k. This month is so bad that 11 members can't match match that

[Anonymous No.]

>>11414851
What happened in Gura's stream today? It's been awhile since she got numbers that high

[Anonymous No.]

>>11418860
I’m still interested in what Millie and Nina get for super chat before I assume too much.

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>>11419249
It is just good old regular minecraft. No JP interaction even, and no VC stuff.
She did meet Ina, Kronii, and Ame but it is mostly chill building.
Uncontested timeslot is probably the main reason.

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>>11415334
a whole bunch of events and pekora just doin her thing, what a funny list

[Anonymous No.]

>>11419459
>just doing her thing
Yes anon, torture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11419478
torturing my balls with that crazy voice I can't help but love

[Anonymous No.]

>>11419116
Anon, if you are not getting sued for a share of the dole you’re not making enough to be worthy

[Anonymous No.]

Crunchyroll Hime is about start her first stream in 50 minutes. A very meagre150 people currently awaiting.

[Anonymous No.]

Huh, Amesame shill stream in 3 hours. That is the Ame timeslot right?
Gura channel, Ame collab, shill stream.
13k?

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>>11419255
I'm not sure if knowing that "Millie" got $6.8k in a stream barely a month ago makes me more or less optimistic for her monetization

[Anonymous No.]

>>11419912
Isn't that graduation money?

[Anonymous No.]

Nina making lots of superchat… I think….

[Anonymous No.]

>>11419912
I mean the Millie currently in Nijisanji EN

[Anonymous No.]

>>11416223
Yes hololive got sponsored by granblue during their Kimetsu no Yaiba collab. It might happen again since they're about to start a Gintama collab.

[Anonymous No.]

watame got $14k on her stream right now

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone know how much Nina made so far in SC?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11420652
About a grand. She's beating the pants off of the wave mates.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11420652
A bit over $1k at the moment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-p3NdVyliw

[Anonymous No.]

>>11420652
1.1k
at least better than the other 2.
she as a lot of superchat BUT
>RUB
that is monopoly money

still nowhere near petra and selene openings.

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Anya monetization stream; for reference
>most of her target audience can’t superchat, tho, hence StreamLabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>11421044
>still nowhere near petra and selene openings.
Right, but compared to her Gen she’s doing okay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11418478
The reason they don't use mods is because the Japanese are autistic about modding despite all the good mods having no permissions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11419822
Probably 15k minimum considering Mumei and Kiara will overlap with them

[Anonymous No.]

Nina at $1.4k dollars now…

[Anonymous No.]

>>11421120
>compared to her gen
that is a low bar tough.
anyway 1.4k for now

[Anonymous No.]

No overlap from other gens right now and Nina and Reimu still can't break 1k.

Something just feels off with Ethyria's start and I think it might be problematic long term.
They feel completely overshadowed by the first 2 waves, not even Obsydia was overshadowed by Lazulight to this degree.

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For reference
selend made 3.6k on her monetization and Petra2.6k

Also just looking at the dates Obsydian got their monetization a week after debut. Maybe they opening it so soon without doing any regular streams is affecting them.

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>>11421284
Then we have this: >>11415143

[Anonymous No.]

>stream just started a few minutes ago
Holy shit she's going to mog Niji EN 3 LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>11421172
It's because they were overlapped hard by the first two waves for most of their debut week and they fucking did part 2 of intros and donation streams right after debut.
It fucked them over hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11421312
oh my god
and the worst part is she feels really like a seasoned veteran already

[Anonymous No.]

>>11421312
it's going up fast

[Anonymous No.]

>>11421503
OH NO NO NO NO NO

Can it beat 10k for the daily ranking?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11421172
Not like Nijisanji never had a failed gen before, it's a shame for the girls (except for Nina who deserves nothing less) but the branch will just have to move on from this and hopefully have a slower 2022 for new waves after the males have debuted

[Anonymous No.]

>hime reads every comment
>remembering names from her previous stream and calling them in this one when she sees them
>someone in chat said it was their birthday and she sang them happy birthday
That is not how I expected the Crunchy mascot chubba to act.

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>>11421503
It’s her first stream after debut right? For comparison purposes, here are NijiENs 1st stream after debut:
Reimu: 2.6k
Nina: 2.5k
Enna: 2.2k
Millie: 2k

[Anonymous No.]

>>11421549
1.5k is my bet
She will be a 3 digits streamer after the debut buff

[Anonymous No.]

>>11421091
i thought ID was no longer blocked from sending superchats

[Anonymous No.]

>>11421618 (me)
I will raise my bet to 2k, she already got 1.5k

[Anonymous No.]

unironically
go corporate crunchy chuuba gooooo

[Anonymous No.]

Right now, Nina SC opening at $1.6k dollars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11421551
It's not a big deal really, they're more successful than other foreign branches. Unless Anycolor really invested and thought they'd get HoloEN numbers that is. I don't think they did. One could catch fire too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11421665
Anya was monetized in 2020

[Anonymous No.]

>>11417576
Everyone has gachikoi

[Anonymous No.]

>>11421172
>>11421551
>>11421600
It was sort of a clue when Selen got double the CCV of the debutants in their first stream out of debut

[Anonymous No.]

Hime's stream crashed or something and she lost like 300 viewers. Idk how youtube works.

[Anonymous No.]

They can't give her a decent PC

[Anonymous No.]

>>11415782
Maybe, but instead of 8 grand it's like two hundred bucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11416172
It's Konosuba but less funny and more just cutesy with some very light humor.

[Anonymous No.]

All Hime needs are clippers and the crunchyroll prush and she might grow big just with her chatting skills and personality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11422244
>YouTube
>works
Anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11422605
Yeah, if they don't make her act like a shill and just keep making her play games and promoting her, she could actually embarrass the bottom EN companies like Niji right now. She's already guaranteed higher numbers than Prism, Phase, Cyber, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11422605
No need for clippers. Just stick her on the crunchyroll homepage with a link and some animations.

[Anonymous No.]

Taking bets: Which chuuba gets the HoloEN collab first:
>Crunchy-hime
>NijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>11422758
What leverage does Niji EN have at all in trying to get a Holo EN collab?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11422758
crunchy can give them something in return

[Anonymous No.]

>>11422782
they have pomu
her power is maximum

[Anonymous No.]

>>11421424
She does, she definitely has public speaking experience before. She's more at ease in front of the camera than some holos I could name

[Anonymous No.]

>>11419060
Twitch is it's own thing. From what I know of them the girls try to avoid overlapping too much, to the point they actively opt out of having multi POVs or set up "streaming cascades" with the raid function whenever possible just so they can numberfag. All the other vtubers on the platform except maybe their orbiters like Snuffy are basically trash at 1k or less.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11422758
Crunchy is willing to pay for the collab. I don't think niji will pay holo for a collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11422801
Anticipate the Holo EN SOL Gura anime.
TToTT

[Anonymous No.]

>>11422758
IRyS

[Anonymous No.]

>>11422836
I wonder how much overlap there is. They seem to get decent viewership individually but as a collab they don’t get much above what they normally get.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11422887
Hime and IRyS should collab. Preferably on a Crunchyroll sponsored anime talk show and they could talk about trashy seasonals all day.

[Anonymous No.]

>multilingual en/jp genki girl with good voice and can talk endlessly while playing a game
Where did Crunchy find this girl? You'd think at least one of the corpos like Phase or Cyber or Tsunderia would want her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11421618
Depends what they do with her. If they throw some cash at Hololive to do a collab it would help. Or they add more CR vtubers for her to interact with. The good thing about her is that she's an advertisement product and likely draws a base salary so superchats, ad rev ect don't matter. She just needs to remind people that Crunchyroll exists and that they need to go back to watching anime sometimes instead of just vtubers all the time.

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>>11423004
That's a legit good idea anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11423027
Talented people already exist in the traditional fields... Hiring glorified indies is a mistake.

[Anonymous No.]

Crunchy-hime is a Sony vtuber by the way

[Anonymous No.]

Hime's peaked at 1.8k so far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11422758
If CR tosses some cash to Hololive they could snag a collab easily. CR girl seems to be aiming to be super family-friendly. Niji EN is probably gonna take Kiara needling managers for months to let her collab with Pomu. ID will probably collab with Niji EN before Holo EN does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11423162
Great retention rate from her debut

[Anonymous No.]

>>11422930
They seem to have cliques, although I couldn't tell you the dynamics. But certain people who watch one certain streamer (say Ironmouse) will have a strong preference for one or two of the others that they're generally closer with. This is mostly from reading the Vshoujo thread and talking with them sometimes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11423027
Maybe she was making more on Tic Tac than what those shitty startups could offer to basically grind stream to 60 viewers, but a steady paycheck from CR + a super lenient streaming schedule + probably a bonus of whatever SC and stuff she gets would be a good deal even to someone making decent money doing other stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

nina at least broke the $2k mark.
But also had a longer stream than all her predecesors

[Anonymous No.]

>>11423027
I imagine someone like her already works in anime related fields and dragged her out of the office to be their promo girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>11423194
But the retention for this stream is bad. She peaked at 1,840 and now I'd down to 1,610, people are just checking and leaving

[Anonymous No.]

>>11423027
This is the power of recruiting from established industries instead of going for indie streamers. She's definitely got event hosting or podcasting experience

[Anonymous No.]

>>11422758
Crunchy without a doubt, they will throw money at Hololive for a collab, it's easy advertising.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11423374
Between 1.7k and 1.6k

[Anonymous No.]

>>11423374
She lost 2k when her stream crashed and it's still verifying it

[Anonymous No.]

>>11423027
She's Crunchyroll staff, same thing as Sanrio is doing. Just train and hire staff members to operate a Live2D and make some extra cash/advertisement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11423426
You know they're gonna blow their load and ask for Gura, whatever that costs. Go big or go home.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>11423457
To be fair that's also how they got N-ko so it's not necessarily a winning formula, Crunchyroll got really lucky they had someone on staff that's this good at streaming

[Anonymous No.]

>>11423445
She got 1.8k after that crash

[Anonymous No.]

>>11423500
Oh you can bet on that

[Anonymous No.]

>>11417499
August and September were super slow months for gura. She wasn't streaming much.

[Anonymous No.]

Orange debuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>11423941
New game but they're all called Tales so people think it's the same one, and to be honest, it might as well be.

[Anonymous No.]

dumping my crunchycoin, shes losing to kiara already

[Anonymous No.]

>>11424119
Give her some time to eat up Niji first before Holo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11424087
Luminaria is worse than Arise.
It's a shill gacha game stream.

[Anonymous No.]

oh hime has playback on
i wonder if that does anything to the NUMBERS

[Anonymous No.]

>>11424161
It's getting the exact same numbers any other Kiara JRPG stream would, not sure her audience can tell the difference. I'm not sure they even watch her gameplay and just treat it like a 6 hour zatsudan with a moving background.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11424173
Supposedly if people get desynced they don't count or something, no idea if anyone ever proven that to be true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11423359
I wouldn't even be surprised if CR just lets her keep all the SC, the thing they'd want from her is CCV beyond all else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11424173
The other issue with playback is you always have idiots responding to things in chat from minutes ago, which I've seen sometimes confuse the streamer. YouTube should really implement something that blocks you from sending a message in chat unless you're caught up, idk why they haven't already.

[Anonymous No.]

>APEX WAS A MISTAKE
Wtf is towers doing this late at night?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11425779

[Anonymous No.]

>>11425321
Because youtube are run by incompetent pajeets, look at how long they took to fix the spambot problem which has been an issue ever since chatrooms were a thing

[Anonymous No.]

Seeing hiromoot with these much audience will NEVER fail to impress me

[Anonymous No.]

>>11425779
Second jab kept her awake so she started up an apex guerilla at 5am, tweeted it out 10 minutes before she started.

[Anonymous No.]

So Hime peaked at 1.8k for the game stream and 2.5k on her debut stream. That's surprisingly good retention compared to Holo/Niji EN debuts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11426217
Hime is here to mog NijiEN not even joking

[Anonymous No.]

>>11426217
She made a really good impression on her debut, and if the views she's gotten on her debut video are any indication I get the feeling that word might've spread about that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11424261
Shill streams always get garbage numbers. Look at amesame right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>11427542
How did Nyanners get such good numbers for this game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11427766
she was doing a charity stream

[Anonymous No.]

damn guraxame collab sponsor is getting half the views of the nyanners one with the same game, imagine the pr team seeing the numbers after paying for the top vtuber kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>11427766
looking at all her other streams the cookie stream is such an anomalous result, her previous highest was from the kiara collab

[Anonymous No.]

Newfag here
I can't understand much of these numbers being thrown around specially when there are cuts involved, and I'm interested on how much is actually going to the girls, what sort of math should I be looking for?

[Anonymous No.]

How much promotion is Crunchyroll even doing for Hime? I see they have her info on twitter but their website has no mention of her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11427868
Charity stream had nothing to do with the numbers, was the other way around. Decided to raise a few bucks for charity because there was gonna be a lot of people there
>>11427766
Twitch asked her to do the stream and put her on the front page, front page is where the views came from
She did hold it above 20k for the duration of the sponsored section though which means she and other vtubers may get more opportunities like that in the future

[Anonymous No.]

>>11428323
Out of Superchat:
1) Youtube takes 30%.
2) Worst account of what Cover (for instance) takes is 50% after the 30%, meaning half of 70% (35%)
That would make the worst estimate, pre taxes, for the take home for the girls on Superchat money be 35% of the total.
Those are estimates and worst cases meaning that would be the least money they get.

Out of the 5 girls with the most SC last month, here is what would be their take home for the month of September alone, under those assumptions

>Rushia: $36,611.40
>Kronii: $30,346.40
>Nene: $27,565.30
>Lamy: $26,030.90
>Calli: $22,722.35

[Anonymous No.]

It's Susan. There's no way a Gura x Ame collab would pull half the numbers of a fuckign N*anners stream. This just confirms Youtube fuckery.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11429249
chumcucks....

[Anonymous No.]

>>11429249
Twitch had it on the front page, its not surprising. Accept your loss, not like nyanners wins most of the time anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11429249
Anon, see >>11428776

Nyanners stream was sanctioned by Twitch and put on the front page of that site, as a charity stream.

[Anonymous No.]

who cares about the numbers for this, they're getting paid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11429249
as >>11428776 said it was promoted by twitch.
looking at her past highest numbers >>11427931 both the 21k and 20k were from the kiara collab

[Anonymous No.]

>>11423500
Might be better to just ask for two different collabs from Kiara and an ID than one with Gura. Bad collabs might be a negative.
Then again she might just be able to entertain Gura's conversation deck and come out looking decent in front of Gura's younger fanbase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11429357
> was sanctioned by Twitch and put on the front page of that site, as a charity stream
that makes the numebrs less impressive

[Anonymous No.]

>>11429347
>>11429357
>>11429501
not my problem if gura can't get her platform support, a loss is a loss stop with the copium it's not like this is gonna end her career holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>11429242
thanks appreciate it
are taxes high in japan? google said it's usually 10% from national and 10% from local government for these brackets

[Anonymous No.]

>>11429759
you wanted an explanation for the numbers, you were provided it no need to throw a fit

[Anonymous No.]

>>11429759
>ask why
>people say why
>HAHA YOU LOSE
Wut?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11429759
Based tbqh

[Anonymous No.]

>>11429777
I don't know enough of japanese tax law to know how this gets taxed. Assume Uncle Sa-, I mean, Ojiisan Tanaka takes half in the absolute worst case for the floor of what they take home after taxes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11426217
Retention is not that great of a metric if you are getting debut numbers like that. Her debut teaser has a lot of views after all, so people know about her but just didn't want to watch the debut for some reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11429777
I remember Coco and Rushia talked about their taxes on stream before, but I forgot the actual percentage. I do remember they already meet the requirements for the highest or second highest tax percentage cut according to their income in Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11429849
>>11429898
first of all i'm not the one who started this, >>11429249 started this and i don't see any question just a lot of copium

[Anonymous No.]

>>11430113
ESL or did you fail English at school to not see the question in that post

[Anonymous No.]

I don't fucking care. Youtube legitimately fucks its talent over by literally halving the live view count for no discernible reason and Susan needs to get her fucking shit together.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11430106
>>11429991
holy shit government taking half of your shit they should be providing you with flying cars already
if Gura does live in Texas or Florida she must be raking in even more

[Anonymous No.]

>>11430211
you are so retarded

[Anonymous No.]

ITT: retards pretending to be retards thinking they're "trolls trolling trolls"

[Anonymous No.]

>>11430222

[Anonymous No.]

>>11430330
the statement
>There's no way a Gura x Ame collab would pull half the numbers of a fuckign N*anners stream
would imply they do not know why nyanners got the higher number, anons then gave a reasonshe did

[Anonymous No.]

>>11430478
Watch the VOD get like 5 times the numbers of N**nners', dipshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>11430481
the statement
>This just confirms Youtube fuckery.
would imply the think they know what's going on

[Anonymous No.]

>>11430631
nyanners vod is at 520k views, sorry not happening, you got some high quality copium tho

[Anonymous No.]

>copium
some of you people need to go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>11430640
should have worded mine better but blaming youtube doesn't fully explain it since we all know youtube counts differently from twitch. the replies give a better reason being that she was promoted on twitch's front page

[Anonymous No.]

>>11430845
Copium is a word that originated on 4chan years ago
How about you go back to wherever the fuck you came from

[Anonymous No.]

>>11431036
cool story
go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>11430845

says the absolute newfag on fucking /vt/ of all places

[Anonymous No.]

>>11430845
This is a twitch and Twitter board, sweetie.

[Anonymous No.]

looking like gura wont even hit 15k.

[Anonymous No.]

>comparing Twitch numbers to Youtube numbers
STOP

[Anonymous No.]

>>11431036
>he actually thinks 4chan invented anything

[Anonymous No.]

>>11431304
I guessed 13k so 14k is already more than I expected.
I also guessed that they were gonna end 20 minutes ago but what do I know about that.

[Anonymous No.]

「Gawr Gura Ch. hololive-EN」の「COOKIE RUN: KINGDOM」が100,000再生を突破しました。

[Anonymous No.]

>>11429777
>>11430252
Here you go, anon, take a look
https://www.jetro.go.jp/en/invest/setting_up/section3/page7.html
Assuming that their taxable income are more than 40,000,000 Yen (or roughly 350K US$), they are getting highest tax rate at 45%. There is another minor local tax too, but I'm too lazy to look that up, wouldn't make much of a difference anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>11431555
i'm thinking that the underperforming numbers is just because it's not gura's usual starting time yet. Even then she usually gain more numbers after 1 hour in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11432429
Naw, it's just not a stream Holofans are interested in.
Mumei had 6-7k viewers who would've been notified of Gura's stream, but when she ended, none of them moved over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11431304
I thought I already saw her at 15k at some point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11432685
I'm more surprise it's not on Ame's channel considering the timeslot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11432900
nope. closest i see from holo.poi is 14.9k

[Anonymous No.]

>>11432900
they just did

[Anonymous No.]

aand that ssr pull got it above 15k.

[Anonymous No.]

The Great Debate seems to have finally reached an undeniable conclusion.
Nyanners > Blue Nyanners

[Anonymous No.]

>>11434122
2 non gacha players get the rarest roll in the game from a free ticket during a shill stream. Hololive really was blessed from god or some shit.

[Anonymous No.]

cumkeks coping lmao

[Anonymous No.]

why is the retarded baitposter still trying?

[Anonymous No.]

16k at the end, not bad for a shill stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11435144
its all they have

[Anonymous No.]

>>11435178
Makes me wonder how much they paid for the stream.

[Anonymous No.]

$1264 for Millie monetization stream so far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11435144
Bored I guess.
People are checking out Fauna's drawing stream now that the Cookie stream is over and she went from 4000 to 4850.
She has a chance to beat her peak (4.9k)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11435794
She's in SC reading now*
Forgot to add the funny part of her beating her peak now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11435363
Just the fact that Ame notoriously isn't a fan of shilling but agreed to do a 2.5 hour shill stream, and the fact that they booked Gawr Gura for those 2.5 hours, tells me it must have been fucking huge. People were speculating 200k+ but I wonder if that's low

[Anonymous No.]

>>11436052
I doubt it's THAT much, that sounds a bit too high, but I wouldn't be surprised if between the two of them it was at least 100k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11416664
At this rate, except for Gura, Myth will get their all time low and Council won't hit half of their SC last month

[Anonymous No.]

>>11436177
the game made 10M on septemebr so i dont think they will spent 10%of their revenue on hololive.
My guess is 20k and bonuses for each link click

[Anonymous No.]

>>11436052
nah since its an indie game its probably .20 - .50 cents view per hour.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11436264
Math reps anon, 100k is 1% of 10m

[Anonymous No.]

ITT: Seething Holobronies angry that Pink Cat got more CCV than Blue Nyanners playing the same game
Stay mad faggots, and learn your fucking place. VShojos are the queens of Vtubers now. Hololive who?

[Anonymous No.]

Jokes aside Kiara pulling 1.9/2.4 for a Tales of Gacha shill stream for a game that’s not even released yet is actually pretty good. BN is probably pretty pleased. Kiara’s a lot cheaper than Gura/Ame and her fanbase probably Jrpg stuff way more than the general myth fanbase

[Anonymous No.]

>>11436320
Sounds way too cheap for two top-tier Holos, would put them at $7500-$18750 for 2.5 hours before Cover's cut. Is that figure from a youtube video breaking down sponsored stream revenue? I've seen the one that goes around from the tech robot guy, but his subs are like 200k if I recall right, way lower profile than any Holo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11436320
Basing payment on ccv for a YouTube based vtuber makes no sense at all. Also Gura isn’t shilling this shit for 10k she would barely notice that given her revenue numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>11436564
its depend on the company. Some like most chink companies offer so much money like for example got offered $300k to shill afk arena. Then theres big mega corporate companies like Verizon only offer around thousands to a big streamer no less.

The pic is from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m5P_n5njCQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>11436692
*like for example Asmongold got offered $300k to shill afk arena
https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/twitch-streamer-reveals-offered-300-000-play-game

[Anonymous No.]

>>11436320
>10k viewers
>¢1 - $1 per viewer
>$1,000 - $1000
The math is wrong in this example

[Anonymous No.]

Tell me a mascot who is a billionaire.
These girls, especially EN, are the ones in Mickey Mouse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11436564
Holofightz got offered 3-6k. You think Gura and Ame got offered three times what Holofightz did? Lol. No

[Anonymous No.]

So millie stream is
$1.6k
Cant belive nina is the highest earner fo her gen but i guess appealing to coomers does pay high.

[Anonymous No.]

Any prediction on what numbers Vshojo gen 2 might get since the brand is pushing hard on both mainstream (getting tv partnership) and internet sphere (collabing with real popolar streamers)?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11436842
>Holofightz
The 4chan WWE game twitch streamer with 11.5k followers? Good one anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>11436866
silvan, melody or tts dragon numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>11436554
The European ambassador gets 1k views per vid on a good day.
Even though Kiara is on the lower end of HoloEN she completely dwarfs those numbers.
>>11436564
Sounds too cheap. I really doubt Gura is gonna get off her ass for "only" 18k unless she really likes the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11436960
isnt kiara european?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11436866
If it's a big indie like snuffy / haruka / saruei, she'll get a boost of 3 - 5k compared to her current average, like vei did
If they debut 2views who knows

[Anonymous No.]

>>11437006
Yeah, but they gave her the NA ambassador title.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11436872
Did you miss the entire rrat ogey legends arc? Yes the meme 4chan wwe streamer got a sponsorship offer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11436866
It won't be a gen. They'll add one and then another maybe a month later and so on. The only way they'll have a gen is if they do vshojoJP or vshonen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11436866
Nyanners, IronMouse, and Veibae are so far ahead of the other Vshoujos and even they get like 8-10k most of the time.
A 20k+ stream is a major anomaly for them, even for collabs, so I don't think it'll be anything crazy.
Also, we kinda already know who's getting in.
>getting tv partnership
The nippontv thing?
>collabing with real popolar streamers
I feel like Vshojo has done this lots in the past year and milked this buff for what its worth already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11437087
But isn't that a little to low? I mean, if they want to expand, they need at least 3 other streamers to fill more roles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11436320
Not really what I'd call an "indie" game dev considering they're listed on the Korean stock exchange.
https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/194480?countrycode=kr
Share price of ~110 USD.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11437087
>vshonen
ngl a Vshounen April fools stream/video consisting of Connor and other males the girls are friends with has massive potential

[Anonymous No.]

>>11437182
Just saying they won't all be at the same time, they'll be spread out and will all be considered (officially) as part of the same gen as the first

[Anonymous No.]

Why don't Vshoji and Nijisanji just form an official partnership? I know that some members have collabed with each other but this time, the two agencies can work together. Vshojo can now gain access to that sweet sweet 3D tech, as well as Nijisanji's massive mainstream backing. Nijisanji, on the other hand, can have a whole new Western audience, most likely 20-30k, that does not overlap with Hololive. Also, they can get in touch with some IRL streamers there as well to do collab stuff. If they can't get inroad on YT, might as well seek out the big Twitch audience. From then, they can build it back on YT. Both Vshojo and Nijisanji can bring in the synergy needed to succeed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11437982
> Vshojo can now gain access to that sweet sweet 3D tech
In Japan... what the fuck is the use of that?
If they want that shit, Vshojo is already buddies with Kizuna AI, who has better 3D tech than Anycolor.
There's no benefit here for Vshojo to give in to Nijisanji since JP viewers won't watch their streams anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11418355
Down to about 7.5k now... 12 hours into her minecraft stream

[Anonymous No.]

Do people here even watch VShojo? Asking because it doesn't look like it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11438259
As someone who does watch, I tend not to talk about it here much as everyone's too busy having niji/holo tribal wars

[Anonymous No.]

>>11438251
https://twitchtracker.com/veibae/streams/43526191020
That spike from 8k to 12k looks like a raid, but she kept it for 5 hours so good for her.
Only a 4k decay after 9 hours is pretty great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11438259
I don't think so, people care more about NijiEN and HoloEN that's why they always compare the 2 instead of VShojo who have higher standing than NijiEN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11438259
Nah it's not a usual topic since they are a different platform, they are being brought up when either niji/holo fags is bating ech other for numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>11436661
I would think that Gura + Ame commands a flat rate with maybe some kind of other bonuses based on total views.

Also, I didn't know it was a gacha game, it looked dreadful so I punched out. I feel like that kind of instant debuff would have warranted a higher upfront rate and would explain why an indie game would have money to throw around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11438843
Why are you calling this an indie game? The parent company is publically traded and it made 10M last month alone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11414822
I want this channel to be shut down. I don't like his profile picture https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfdC-IsMCbp0hBm_xWcvC6w/videos

[Anonymous No.]

Why are gacha games so popular in the East like China, Japan and Korea?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11439376
Yea, I even linked the goddamn stock earlier in the thread but it looks like no one reads shit that isn't blatant bait sometimes...
It's a Korean owned gacha game, that might have something to do with why they picked THIS particular game to take a sponsorship from out of all the ones they could choose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11439588
People like gambling.
At least it won't bankrupt you like going to the casino.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11439588
Dunno about the others but its cause gambling is banned in japan with the exception of horse betting sorta, gacha is the other way they can stimulate it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11439653
>It's a Korean owned gacha game,
Koreans are stronk in HoloEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>11439588
Genetic and cultural predisposition to gambling and addictive vices.
There's a big reason that drugs are taboo (opium wars tainting the entire region) and assorted gambling shit is so popular.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11439763
It's still legal through a loophole.
You win a prize instead but there's a shop right next to the gambling place where you exchange it for money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11430631
>Watch the VOD get like 5 times the numbers of N**nners', dipshit
update: gura vod 250k views, nyanners vod 520k views

[Anonymous No.]

>>11439588
I don't think gacha is that popular in SK compare to MOBA. The same in China as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>11439883
i always wonder does the vod views of tiwtch count the ongoing streams views also?
it seems they alwasy are 0 when thestream ends.

[Anonymous No.]

A legitimate question i have what is the absolute lowest and highest live viewership numbers that an actual second alternate outfit debut stream that Pekora could get

[Anonymous No.]

>>11440030
Anon, mobas may rule the scene, but Gacha games are relatively popular too.
https://sensortower.com/blog/top-mobile-games-in-south-korea-q2-2021-by-revenue-downloads
Yea, cookie run behind only LINEAGE in Korea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11440043
They started including stream views in the vod view count around a year ago.

[Anonymous No.]

mumei got 4.2k votes on her latest members-only poll, her other poll last week got 5.8k votes. anyone got numbers on the other council?

[Anonymous No.]

Looks like that RE7 has managed to let Fauna stave off Baelz incline, she's back to having 5k difference in subs when the rat was gradually closing the gap days ago.

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>>11440106
Lowest? Let's take Marine's outfit reveal stream as a basis. There's frankly no way Pekora gets less than 100k for a proper outfit reveal. With proper announcement ahead of time and proper revealing technique and drawing it out, who knows how high she could go.

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>>11440106
100k lowest - 130k-150k highest. Pekora is never really about the peak in terms of special event.

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>>11439588
Those countries are very work centric, so the only free time East and SouthEast Asians have are the time in between commute or short breaks. That and PCs and internet connections are generally still expensive.
Phones are the number 1 gaming medium here because it's cheap and there are multiple ways to gain access to free wifi.
Hence why Gacha Games and Mobile MOBAs are king in Asia because 1) they don't require a powerful PC; 2) they don't require fast internet; 3) you can play for 5-10 minutes at a time and then go back to work/continue on your daily commute

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>>11440330
Kronii almost got 8k votes on her watchalong poll.

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>>11440106
because its been a while since her last outfit 100k is the absolute minimum, i think it can get 170k if she does well stalling the reveal + proper shilling by other holos

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https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1448831683856195586?t=qcyuUoWQL3moqqTsFwp6wg&s=19 looks like we have a winner for the 19th

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>>11440181
of course gacha makes more money because of the whales.
But they're not that popular
>>11440371
SEAs only play MOBA, like MOBA games have 90% of the market. Stop thinking Japan = Asia

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>>11421312
>B-b-bUT she is ALONE in her corp, so there is no overlaps!

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>>11438402
>people care more about NijiEN and HoloEN that's why they always compare the 2 instead of VShojo who have higher standing than NijiEN.
That’s a good point. I think for many, they can’t be bothered going to Twitch.

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>>11440582
Suzy getting a new costume is a good sign that whatever retarded drama happened between Cover and her designer is at least resolved.
Still, fuck him for deleting all his concept art and celebratory art of her tho.

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>>11440582
New Sui-chan costume?
EZ winner yea. I don't see anything topping that on that day, and it's a good leadup to her Live.

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>>11440812
I feel like I missed this arc, but I'm assuming dude fell in love with Suisei and got rejected, used cover as escape goat.

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>>11440921
Who knows, guy was also a known huge Nijisanji fan.
That said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzE52IWh6S0
Premier in under an hour.

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>>11441053
So direct comparison to Umisea? Are we expecting this to fare better or worse than Umisea?
What is our bar here? Was Umisea considered a failure, a success or just so-so

[Anonymous No.]

Today's superchats

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>>11429242
Lamy have a unique contract

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>>11440330
kroni 8k
mumei 5k
for bael and sana is hard. if i check the vod views on her latest memeber streams i get 3.8k and 2.8k respectively but take those with a grain of salt.

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>>11441197
Nina #5

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>>11441097
A failure, kinda. You would expect more with all the big names in the project
>>11441197
So Nina is most successful NijiEN3, hilarious

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>>11436554
And suisei pulls 10k in her arise

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>>11441197
>Nina - top 5
what happened doomposters?

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>>11441296
Writing was just horrible and it was a bad idea to not get Ina/Gura some voice acting lessons before doing this.

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>>11441296
>So Nina is most successful NijiEN3, hilarious
What’s hilarious, is she has a small fanbase but still somehow made that cash.

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>>11441097
Are you asking in relative terms or absolute? Of course in absolute terms, UMISEA is in an entirely different league. UMISEA #01 has 940k views. This LazuLight video would have to go ridiculously viral to get to that number, the entire thread would kneel.

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>>11441197
>>11441296
>So Nina is most successful NijiEN3, hilarious
so new NijiEn member, who Nijicucks will shill for, was decided

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>>11440921
>>11441053
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=teshima_nari&pid=42

It's strange and no one made a big deal out of it so not many people even knew it happened, but this was the timeline:
- He drew fanart of Holos for more than a year and celebratory arts for Suisei's milestones.
- Started tweeting out cryptic tweets as drama piled up in 2020 in Hololive.
- Suddenly unfollowed every Holo (including Suisei) and deleted all the Holoart he's ever posted (including the concept art for Suisei's design). He left all his Niji and Kaf fanart up so it's not vtuber-related.
- Never commented again on anything related to Hololive and just pretended Suisei doesn't exist (Pretty fucked up imo to not even congratulate Suisei for getting 1 mil subs or getting a sololive despite whatever drama occurred)
- Suisei has continued to praise his work despite him ignoring her and Hololive's existence

The fact that she got a new costume and he followed her again recently should indicate that whatever happened is probably resolved.

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>>11441380
is the momy roleplay

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>>11441380
She pretty much proved what she said before true. Just gotta mommy bait and people will throw money at you.

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Just realized

>Scarlet Nexus, JRPG, animated series
Sponsored Gura and Callie streams
>Deep Insanity, mobile RPG, new animated series
Collabed with hololive KanaTowa for theme song
>Tales of Arise, JRPG, animated cut-scenes (potential series/movie release)
Kiara as ambassador
>BangG dream, animated movie
hololive collab

Sponsors with anime productions

[Anonymous No.]

Well that's a bit more like it.. she still fucked up by letting SCs open before the official opening stream though

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>>11441526
SE has been throwing sponsorships at Peko left and right as well.

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>>11441478
Well given no one can be a real mommy to everyone, obviously it’s a character she plays. However it has very big risks, because it will appear weird to a majority who don’t fall into that niche. Many who don’t relate to it, may be bothered by it a bit. But as long as some like it, it’s an available position for her to fill.

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>>11441463
Thanks for the TLDR man. Such behavior is emotional, and I lost count how many times it happened to hololive affiliates/freelancers

>Suisei has continued to praise his work despite him ignoring her and Hololive's existence
I'm ready to marry Suzy

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>>11441526
Hololive is an otaku central, but it's big enough that other niche fandoms think it's a normie shit. kek.

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>>11441463
Which drama made him started deleting those fanarts and unfollow Holos? The Taiwan Yabe?

Also, I don't like the timeline we're heading. Mamaloni posted a reimu art.

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>>11441842
>Which drama made him started deleting those fanarts and unfollow Holos?
We don't know but his cryptic tweets were around the time of the HOLOcaust and the HoloAlt Mizuryu Kei drama. He deleted all his art and unfollowed everyone after the latter happened.
> Mamaloni posted a reimu art.
Holoartists draw Nijis and vice versa all the time.
Welcome to the non-tribal reality outside of /vt/.

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>>11441320
Unless you are baiting people to shit on Nina, Barely getting 2.6k on her SC celebration stream - while isn’t terrible - isn't really that good either anon…
For reference, Selen got 3.5k and Petra got 2,6k too, so Nina only made more than Wosemi (I wouldn’t bring up Holos since it’d be just unfair at the moment)

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>>11441738
She's overplaying it. Ceres is doing it better. No doubt she might get new RU fans, but they'll fuck off the moment they found Botan. Speaking and Pandering to RU will be a monumental task, Botan spares a bone to them sometime but her skills is what makes they stay.

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>>11441554
Nijisanji cares more about converting viewers into donos rather than enriching individual livers.
The sweet CCV number for Nijisanji new waves is 500. If someone in a branch can get that number consistently, then a new wave will be released in a few months. Hana of NijiID knew about this, and she wants the other NijiID to grow first before the new waves cannibalize the CCV of older waves. And this is why she keeps trying to filter people from watching her streams. NijiEN CCV is still healthy under Nijisanji standard, so they will keep releasing new waves until Selen's CCV is below 500.

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>>11441955
>Ceres is doing it better.
Fauna is not the same thing in the slightest. I’m making a distinction between using the label, and actually playing the role.

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>>11441946
i mean you can bring Anya..>>11421091

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>>11441988
>Nijisanji cares more about converting viewers into donos
what happened to "Superior Merch"?

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>>11442076
Ceres is playing the role too from the vibe she's giving out on her streams and tweets. It's subtle. It's just Nina overplaying too much of the mommy character and using everything on the book.

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>>11442157
Maybe they don't want to deal with the international shipping headache Cover is going through right now, who knows.

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Who is more popular nowadays, Gura or Nyanners? I feel like these two are literallu parallels of one another. Their past contents are the same. They share similar high growth with high CCV, audience and even influence as well.

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>>11442231
Subtlety is much better than overacting. That's why many flock to Fauna and not whatever this NijiEN no.#.

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>>11442076
Fauna is a lot more subtle about it in how she acts, reacts and talks to her audience.
Nina is the doing the equivalent of playing a laugh track.

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>>11442267
>Who is more popular nowadays, Gura or Nyanners?
is this a joke?

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VShojo is more popular than nijien

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>>11442314
Holobronies trying to act like Gura is still relevant.

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>>11442267
>They share similar high growth with high CCV
Gura gets more viewers reading SCs than Nyanners does playing Minecraft.
Nyanners's all-time peak is 27k, which is lower than 2 streams Gura has done in the past 2 weeks.
It's not even a contest.

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>>11442267
Have you been living under a rock? Gura is the most popular vtuber now and Nyanners is pretty much never talked about these days.

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>>11442231
>from the vibe
Good grief anon. We are obviously not talking about the same thing. I’m suggesting that Nina is actually being it. Which is why it’s more risky.

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>>11439588
Asains

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>>11442267
I mean, if you're being completely, 100% serious?
Gura beats the pink cat in every category except apparently shill streams, but that's also not quite 1:1 considering that nyanners had her stream pinned to the front page of twitch, explaining the massive difference in VOD views between that one stream and the rest of her regular streams. Still beating Gura on that one instance, but context is important.

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>>11442349
Uh, is that cope because Nyanner is doing better at a sponsor stream and BOTH Gura and Ame. Myanners is even promoted by Twitch itself. When Gura is promoted by YT, then you can star arguing with me.

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>>11442267

[Anonymous No.]

>retards eating up Gura VS Pink cat bait
ok im leaving

[Anonymous No.]

when is next kronii stream

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>>11442706
Come back when the next thread goes up, people just love to take obvious bait when there's not much going on + at bump limit.

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Out of curiosity, is Nyanners growing, remaining the same, or declining?

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8k waiting on Ame's karaoke

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>>11442767
Sunday (JST) but its a continuation of Hollow Knights game so numbers will be pretty bad.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzE52IWh6S0
>hahahahahaha
>wait, are you serious?
>HAHHAHAHAHHA

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>>11442614
OH NO OH NO OH NO, Chumbronies, what does Google mean by this?

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>>11442157
kek, holos has been putting out better merch than nijisanji since like january

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>>11442926
didnt even botter on drawing different poses. Only changed the faces. Also did the girls wrote thatt themselves?

[Anonymous No.]

We all know Gura's numbers are bad when she streams earlier than 5PM PST
Her prime time zone is 5PM~9PM PST

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>>11443004
I tried it but this is what it shows falseflagger.

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>>11442926
I'm not clicking on that (to affect the algorithm), but is it better or worse than the UMISEA one?

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>>11443153
>Fuck some random guys during 1st episod
>Also did the girls wrote thatt themselves?

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>>11443220
Why does a lot of people hate vtubers tho?

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>>11443242
Significantly worse.

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>>11443242
>worse than the UMISEA one
0 effort

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>>11442926
UMISEA killer.
>>11443242
It's literally VN expression swap tier.
>>11443296
Normies HATE anything anime.

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>>11443004
This is the price for being the world most popular vtuber
You will get a lot of hates because of envy

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>>11443296
>Why does a lot of people hate [any_slightly_weeb_stuff]

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>>11443242
if umisea had 100 dollars of budget this had 100 argentinan pesos

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https://twitter.com/hololive_en/status/1448862850307411973?s=21
I swear they fucking waited until the Nijisanji version went up.

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>>11442926
>>11443153
>didnt even botter on drawing different poses
WAIT
they did NOT even draw art for it!
they just used art from HERE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnP0cKNPE04
>quantity over quality

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>>11443242
I feel like you have to be a Holofan to like to UMISEA and Hologra, they're objectively pretty silly.
But this is honestly quite embarrassing, like significantly worse than UMISEA.

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>>11443472
Yea....ooof I wathced just 10 seconds of that shit and...lord, that's bad.
>>11443476
Kek. Non-zero chance that's the case, but who can say for sure?
Ame once again pulling another 10k karaoke though, this SOVL...

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>>11443294
the jokes are so fucking bad i wouldnt past over them

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>>11443369
>UMISEA killer.
so why there is no Petra in it?

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>>11429777
they take 55%
kson said in a stream

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>>11443206
I agree
Burgers were still at work at 3pm

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>>11443296
>Some people hate anime
>Some people hate livestreamers
>Vtuber is both of those
Well it's not very surprising at all

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>>11443476
Cover i k-keel

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>>11442926
Niji is embarrassing themselves here. The branch musta run out of money or something lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>11442926
Reminder that this took them 4-5 months to release.

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>>11443957
did they ship the manuscript to niji hq vice versa?

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>>11443854
>>11442926
i had hope, but niji managment ruined it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Eo-K5Md8Mk

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>>11442536
It's really sad that you've been trying that stupid bait all day and no one's taking it, so i'm giving this you out of pity. Don't bother replying.

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talking about lack of budget
did the nijiEN girls got merch outside the voicepacks

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>>11444344
did any1 of them had BD?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11444344
No.
>>11444431
3 (Pomu/Finana/Rosemi) of them had a birthday already and Elira is in a couple days.

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>>11444344
Did they not get merch from their tour with AnimeExpo and Otakuthon? Pretty sure the Hololive girls got merch from AnimeExpo at least

[Anonymous No.]

I'm curious which one got the magic number >>11444444

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>>11444683
No. Nijisanji twitter didn't even tweet out the cons they were going to be at the day of.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11440336
her RE7 is too good. Good on her

[Anonymous No.]

>>11440336
Let them suffer their own inability to stream good content at the right time. Incompetent for short.

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>>11442345
Says the retard who's bringing Nyanners just for 1 instance she had higher CCV on a stream. Do you also believe Luna is more popular than Gura because she had a 50k stream once while Gura's had one like under 20k?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11445397
>October 2021 still getting baited by the Vshoujo poster

[Anonymous No.]

Why are vtubers singing punk rock is more watched than vtubers singing anime songs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11445891
>Hololive English
>Sings in English
>Gets better numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>11445731
>October 2021 and still bot realizing that Sony and Vshojo will be take the top of vtuber

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>>11445946
>Sony

[Anonymous No.]

>October 2021 and still not realizing he is a falseflagger

[Anonymous No.]

Gura gets like 5k - 7k new fans each day.
If 0.1% of them find /vt/, that's like 5 - 7 newfags each day from Gura alone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11445942
Punk rock is so boomer these days, who wants to listen to that anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>11445946
Oh nyoooooo~

[Anonymous No.]

>>11445891
>EN audience want EN songs
big reason why IRyS flopped

[Anonymous No.]

>October 2021 thinking Hololive and Gura still on top

[Anonymous No.]

>>11444344
digital phone wallpaper

[Anonymous No.]

HoloES when?

[Anonymous No.]

>Ame tries hard to come up with new ideas, ends up not streaming
>Ame does karaoke, gets views
Ame, you fucking western woman, it's not complicated

[Anonymous No.]

>>11446002
I do.... I love classic rock too...

[Anonymous No.]

>>11446002
early zoomers like that too. Hell even my little sister listens to MCR

[Anonymous No.]

>>11445891
Cuz there's only like 40 anime songs they sing so any given JP karaoke the chances are you've heard every song in the entire set list sung specifically by 5 or more other vtubers within the last year.

[Anonymous No.]

How many niggers have been killed by this indie 3d vtuber with awful rigging?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11446021
>IRyS flopped
>every karaoke 12k+

[Anonymous No.]

>>11446369
Not enough

[Anonymous No.]

>>11416785
clippers

[Anonymous No.]

>>11446411
Do better Vsinger chan

[Anonymous No.]

>>11446132
Why does Ame have to have the annoying kind of retardation instead of the entertaining kind like half of the other hololive girls have?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11446599
thats really good for Anya

[Anonymous No.]

>>11446599
>[UNARCHIVED]
/discussion

[Anonymous No.]

>>11446707
i mean there audience for that (TeaMates)

[Anonymous No.]

>>11446599
IRyS's first karaoke beat that, without the unarchived and guerilla buffs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11446369
>>11446599
You faggots, she's here

[Anonymous No.]

>>11446411
as a vsinger thats sad compared to her mates without the vsinger label
no one cares about her songs too compared to mori

[Anonymous No.]

>>11446903
>vsinger label
shizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>11446822
>>11446599
>36k, archived
A shame Holostats didn't track this stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>11446822
I had to double-checked anon's claim. He's right. IRyS' numbers are pretty good, but her fans are not doing their reps unlike the KFP, else her MV would get 1M by now already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11446977
>shizo
retard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>11447074
Kiara is making Big event out of Every her song/cover. smart number-bird

[Anonymous No.]

>>11447074
IRyS doesn't really badger people to watch her videos.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh look, it's the IRyS-anti schizo again

[Anonymous No.]

>>11447129
She gets more support from being in a gen too. Not many ENs retweeting IRyS or shilling for her (although Fauna did for HCH.) IRyS is pretty middle of the pack in terms of numbers but her karaoke numbers are good for something that happens every week and has the archived debuff.

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>>11446822
>guerilla buffs.
That's actually a nerf though, you won't be able to gather/prepare most of your fanbase to show up, some might be off the internet or be focused on something else because they didn't know you were going live.

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>>11447789
It's debatable. It adds a lot of hype.

[Anonymous No.]

>>11446822
How many did IRyS get from guerilla buff again? iirc she did guerilla karaoke

[Anonymous No.]

Make new thread