what could possibly happen

[Anonymous No.]

if they collab with males? how nips would react? how /vt/ would react?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955354
i would fap to the idea of being NTR'd

[Anonymous No.]

They collab with males irl all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955354
The fallout would be nuclear, expect graduation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955354
> 2 camwhores
> jun's gf

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955354
I would not care

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955432
aloe just graduated because of her dad issues, not because muh bf

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955354
>collab with hikakin
I'm fine with that.
>collab with the homos
Expect the third nuke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955513
An unknown HAND showed up in a stream caused the board to flip upside down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955657
> third nuke
that's harsh

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955354
Rushia would get murdered.
Noel and Lamy would maybe be cancelled by nip incels.
Pekora would be fine, unless she got caught fucking one of the dudes

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955418
Don't call sex a collab

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955354
A happening similar to kanagi crazyshrine maidens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955354
You know, I get why Lamy, Danchou and Rushia avoid men at all costs since that would directly influence their main source of income. But why does it matter if Pekora ever talks to men? Not saying she should get a boyfriend because that's a different thing, but I don't get what would be so horrible about Peko talking to a man?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9956228
Genmate peer pressure, 3 is the pseudo e-girl gen enabling them to get flare and pekora into it

[Anonymous No.]

Pekora would receive a ton of hate. But not by her fans but rather by idolfags that think of pekora as an “ally”. It doesn’t matter that pekora isn’t interested in providing GFE, she’s absolutely will get attacked by rabid rushia fans for “ruining hololive”

[Anonymous No.]

>>9956228
She asked her viewers, they said no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955354
Japanese incels are la muy basado, so I'd imagine they'd never find the bodies. Not that anything of value would be lost in the context of them having collabed with men.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9956431
her fans literally spammed her stream with red superchats saying "no"

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955354
I hope kiara teaches them how to wrestle

[Anonymous No.]

>>9956436
>>9956502
huh, that's surprising. I wonder if it's because of the general Hololive atmosphere and culture or if the nousagis just see something different in Peko?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9956622
>>9956436
Because Pekora goes out of her way to say she is a pure idol. But honestly, what's the worst that could happen?
>collab happens, nousagi begin crying and seething
>peko doesn't care, has a fun collab
>superchat reading, all of them akasupas begging pekora to never stream with a male again
>"eeehhh pekora didn't know she was causing nousagi so much pain...gomene minna, pekõra wants everyone happy because she is everyone's idoru
>laughs to the bank

[Anonymous No.]

>>9956880
>But honestly, what's the worst that could happen?
Losing her next month income. Collabing with a male, famous one like >>9955657 is fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9956622
There's schizos in every fanbase that think female=GFE regardless of context, pekora is just too afraid of confrontation to tell them to fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>9956880
God I hate her so much

[Anonymous No.]

>>9956988
>telling your paypigs to fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>9956983
Nah. She would get akasupa warnings, but she could get away with it once, maaaybe twice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9956622
Hololive actively encourages idolfags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9956431
>>9956622
>>9956988
>uh pekoras not gfe you heckin incels. None of her fans care if she collabs with a man
>proven wrong
>well she just does it for money she actually really hates it
Kill yourself niggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>9957784
When did I say any of that you stupid tranny? I was just curious how nousagis feel about this. Pekora has no need to collab with males anyway so it doesn't matter

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955354
some backlash, but things would calm down after some weeks. nips aren't that autist compared to your average 4chan schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>9958249
>nips aren't that autist compared to your average 4chan schizo
How new?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9956436
>they said no
DYRB most people just say they don't mind to not hurt the streamer feelings, Pekora is smart enough to know how the idol world works

[Anonymous No.]

>>9958249
Ask me how I know you've never posted on jp

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955354
Subtle begging from the homo beggar. I see you're still at it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9958249
nip unicornfags becomes the ultimate schizo over 4ch schizo when it comes to holos and male collaborations

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955354
>Pekora always put her stream success in front of everything so no males 4ever because she has nothing to gain only lose.
>Rushia Yandere GFE
>Noel Brocon/shotacon
I don't watch Lamy enough but don't worry about it there's nothing to fear

[Anonymous No.]

>>9958249
>nips aren't that autist
>when one of them tracked a girl from the reflection in her eyes

[Anonymous No.]

>>9958441
>>9958303
> oh no they're going to dislike bomb her if she collabs with a male!
4chan schizos dislike bombed the nyanners collab

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955354
Rushia and LAMEy are unironically among the chillest Holofags, at worst mass suicide, at best nothing will happen. Although I'm sure they won't do it anw, at least not without telling their fans beforehand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955354
Kyoto studio

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955354
Rushia would get stalked, raped, and killed the others would lost a portion of their supacha

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955354
As nijifan i don't know why i should react lol, we got male/female collab like always , so i just happy for them if they have fun collabing with male friend, just Ket them enjoy being vtuber guys

[Anonymous No.]

>>9958249
>nips aren't that autist compared to your average 4chan schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955354
Second holocaust.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955354
If Rushia ever interacts with a male or is revealed to have a boyfriend. Expect a kyoto animation fire and/or her getting murdered and/or mass stabbing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9958249
4chan, by definition is a rip off of gook culture.
I always knew the average chink is "off" when I discovered about chip-chan, back in the days.

To Livestream your every-move, uninterrupted to your obsessed fans is skizO central. To this day I don't think any western streamer get to this level of deranged-ness.

The level that the girls have to reach in order to hide their identities should be a sign...wearing gloves while showing your hands? masks while taking selfies? some guy could even tell what Pekora typed on a keyboard just by the sound of it.

[Anonymous No.]

Pekora's popular enough that as long as it was the right collab partner and it went smoothly, she could get away without any problems or if it was something in a professional setting like at a convention. Likewise, Lamy could probably get away with something professional. Rushia and Noel though...

[Anonymous No.]

Idol culture is shit, it's an unnecessary burden to put on talent. They could have the same level of success as they do now without the fear of being associated with a guy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9969652
>some guy could even tell what Pekora typed on a keyboard just by the sound of it.
how? that's some scary shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>9969760
I've been trying to figure out forever how to do it.
https://youtu.be/sbTguCrMmyk

[Anonymous No.]

>>9969652
>The level that the girls have to reach in order to hide their identities should be a sign...wearing gloves while showing your hands? masks while taking selfies?
that's because of their choice though.
Matsuri has shown her hands, face, tits,... nothing serious happened. There are doxx of vtubers anywhere anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>9969741
It has little to do with "idol culture", that was just a partial excuse.
Holos financially rely on a handful of complete schizo paypigs who see their specific oshi as their girlfriend, usually their male collab policy depends on whether (1) how demanding the paypigs are by themselves, (2) how conflict-averse is the Holo in question, and (3) how much they valued their paypigs donation. Little to do with how dedicated they are to idolshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9969741
I don't see any niji females surpassing holos though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9969737
>Pekora's popular enough that as long as it was the right collab partner and it went smoothly
Pekora hasn't changed so much that she still isn't the girl who spilled out that she was furious at a nousagi getting doxxed and bullied off of Twitter because of their gachikoi akasupa getting posted in Nijinigger circles
She's also still the same one who was terrified by dead rabbit posting chinks

People who say this think I underestimate her personal army because of popularity. But I don't. What you're doing is underestimating how schizo nousagi gachikoi can be.
There is a reason they had to be contained on 5ch.
>Likewise, Lamy could probably get away with something professional
She would still lose gachikoi IMO, and they are her bread and butter.
Yukimin seem very much like the type of gachikoi that will peace out without a word.
>Noel though...
Noel has the best odds of making it out of one with more gachikoi intact than not just because of the yuri filter.
I suppose that a proper gachikoi would see past the filter though, so maybe that's a moot point
>Rushia
Actual violence IRL

[Anonymous No.]

>>9969741
>muh muh idol culture
Sora, Suisei, Matsuri etc. are fine with interacting with males and you can't say they're any less serious about being idols than the newer members. "Idol culture" post-sankisei is just a very convenient cover for keeping schizo gachikois of the sort who donated akasupas to their oshi's every single stream. That's the main reason for newer gens not collabing with males.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9956880
>Pekora goes out of her way to say she is a pure idol.
I hate how some of them abuse the word idol when theyre not even half as talented as the real idols like Sora, Azki, Suisei and Matsuri who all interacted with guys. If you're gonna pander to your fan's possiveness, then do so at your will but don't give the impression that its because you're an idol when you can't even sing or dance properly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9971913
anon... nobody, not even pekora herself, thinks of her seriously as an idol

[Anonymous No.]

>>9973381
Fair point I guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>9970497
>Suisei
Has admitted that she isn't the typical idol fan
>Matsuri
Is an actual menhera and rapes women. Literally went to low-key underground idol groups(the kind where boyfriends and offpakos and all kinds of other shit happens- aka bands and future JAV stars with an idol aesthetic) just so that she could be noticed and most likely try to fondle them
Matsuri is worse than most of the gachikoi here you dumb motherfucker at least I wouldn't try to rape my oshi just because I could
>Sora
Had male collabs before gachikoi were even on the radar. She never had them to lose them. And it's clearly an advantage to have them given the meteoric rise of her other co-workers
Also, I gotta say, when somebody like Pekora says she likes Sora as her HL oshi and yet still outright denies male collabs explicitly early on, I'll trust her opinion on what it means to be an idol over some retards here

[Anonymous No.]

>>9958656
don't fall for clickbait. there was still metadata in the picture that was posted

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955354
Newfag detected, two of them already collabed with men.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9973768
>Has admitted that she isn't the typical idol fan
When?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9974463
Also that doesn't even have anything to do with what the other anon was saying

[Anonymous No.]

>>9973381
https://youtu.be/vl7CEFyQYgM?t=120
Fuck you faggot she's trying her best

[Anonymous No.]

>>9973768
>Had male collabs before gachikoi were even on the radar. She never had them to lose them. And it's clearly an advantage to have them given the meteoric rise of her other co-workers
Anon you literally just conceded to what I said, avoiding males is to keep the gachikois and doesn't make you more or less "idol".
And fuck no being willing to collab with males doesn't make Suisei a "bad" or "outlier" idol fuck that shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9974463
She said that she's the kind of idol fan who doesn't care if their idol has a boyfriend or develops a connection to them or anything, which isn't what's expected. I'm not in the mood to sift through god knows how many archives to find it because all I remember was that it was during an utawaku
>Also that doesn't even have anything to do with what the other anon was saying
It does. It'd be like claiming an alternative idol is as much an idol as AKB48
Idols are and always have been about giving viewers a fantasy as their primary role. Performative arts are just a great way to present a fantasy to the masses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9973768
> Suisei

Are you a useful connection to make for my music career aspirations? Then yes, your gender is irrelevant.

Have my trusted friends, like Toko or Matsuri vouched for you? Then maybe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955354
NTR is pretty popular in jp, soo

[Anonymous No.]

>>9975258
>It'd be like claiming an alternative idol is as much an idol as AKB48
Why wouldn't it? Alt-rock is still rock, for example. And if she says that she's an idol, she's an idol. That's the most conclusive thing, she herself thinks she's an idol and nobody can discuss that. I agree with you about Suisei being an alt-idol btw.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9975108
>And fuck no being willing to collab with males doesn't make Suisei a "bad" or "outlier" idol fuck that shit.
I really don't care if you think alt idols are idols my guy, they're not and there's a reason that AKB48 and adjacent groups are both:
1)the types of things people think of when they think of the word "idol"
2)the type of group where girls who have boyfriends are often harshly dealt with

>I-idols aren't GFE!
No, but they are a certain kind of a person. A person who is an idol doesn't get a boyfriend for her fans sake, even if she doesn't do GFE.
Imagine if you had a really good friend who loved you like a brother, but who you loved as more than that, way more. She cared about you, and knew that those feelings hurt because they were unreciprocated.
A normal person would never deprive themselves of anything for a friend in that way, of course. At best, they'd try and detach themselves. But we're not talking about a normal person, we're talking about an idol. The idol doesn't want them to detach. But she is expected to care about her fans emotional well-being.

It is not a reasonable expectation for an ordinary human being to concern herself with the irrational feelings of another. But idols have never sold themselves as aiming at being simply ordinary human beings. They sell themselves as dreams.
The idea of obsessing over an entertainer purely, and ONLY, for their "journey" through life and watching them improve, and openly deriding any sense of commitment to their fans, is in my experience a very Amerifat attitude. Not sure if it stems from their built in hyper-individualistic guilt complex where they feel they have no right to expect anything from anyone or whatever but it's always obvious when the superfan is a burger

[Anonymous No.]

>>9976131
>And if she says that she's an idol, she's an idol
>Literally saying that Suisei is the tranny of idols
This is not a good hill anonchama

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955354
Danchou and Rushia were both part of the nico nico Pokemon tournament whose commentator was a dude (pro that won a legit championship; also Matsuri got him to read her rather lewd pokemon nicknames), absolutely nobody in Japan cared about it and almost nobody on this board actually watches Hololive enough to know about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9977206
I remember that. Noel and Aki (I think, might have been someone else, it was in fucking February so forgive me) played amogus with males on niconico as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9976594
If your metric of being an "idol" places Suisei as less of an idol than Pekora then your metric is completely retarded and off the charts.
Holos are more "alt" idols than anything resembling the mainstream. Mainstream idols don't get boyfriends but don't repudiate professionally interacting with males onstage, mainstream idols have far, far more intensive singing/dancing training and lessons, and yes mainstream idols damn well are at least as invested in performances and music as fan interactions, and sometimes even more. Holos actually remind me of smaller idol scenes with fans relationship that's even more parasocial than mainstream idols (owing to more intimate interactions) but also far more unprofessional.
At the end the amerimutt idea of streaming and associated parasocial relationship is far more accurate in describing male interaction policy of individual Holos than idol culture. Which isn't really surprising given that i.e Pekora, Rushia, Noel etc. started as streamers angling for male fanservice. I don't find this a problem at all but it's just what it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9974796
Her best sucks AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

[Anonymous No.]

>>9976721
Don't be dumb. Why wouldn't I believe her words?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9973768
>when somebody like Pekora says she likes Sora as her HL oshi and yet still outright denies male collabs
Heh, I would put my trust of opinions on idols on Suisei or the likes of her who can actually perform on stage. Smoker Twap is even more of an idol than her its not even close, and she plays Apex with male celebs. If youre gonna use a Holo to discuss about this at least use Nene who can decently and mogs 90% of Holos with her moves instead of stiff nasal bunny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9977516
I don't think many have the confidence to turn down the GFE attention (and superchats) to risk whatever meager benefit streaming with male streamers would bring. FBK collabing with Holostars was seen as more of an altruistic move in trying to bring Hololive closer together than anything benefiting her personally.

In order to collab successfully with the Holostars you either need to be so Seiso that the concept of working with them is seen as nothing but professional (Sora), so un-Seiso that you're not surprised with what's going to happen (Matsuri) or just give zero-fucks in general. (Most of ID)

>>9977946
Nene would be a weird one, since her recruiting husbands is almost par for the course now. 'Another male love interest? Just throw him on the pile'.

[Anonymous No.]

Does pekora do GFE? from clips alone (No japanese please undastan) I feel like not much would happen?
Rushia feels like the type who would turn down every male just for chat, however let's say it's mandated, well.. she or the guy gets stabbed, probably both, maybe just the guy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9978067
I don't support collabing with Holostars not because of being an idolfag, but because it brings nothing to the table unless you got the correct pairs. Also because some of their fans being insufferable beggars. Astel coaching or teaming with any of the Apex Holos might work, but why do that when he have better chance winning tourneys or get better placements playing with better players outside the Holo bubble? Suisei interacts with man ever since her indie days and she only started interacting with Holostars this year, so thats saying something. Roberu, because he has decent connections and is a good collab partner, and sniping Rikkka who is the only Holostars that play Tetris and then mogging him by placing almost ten places above him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9978576
Calli/Aruran still makes the most sense for me in terms of Hololive/stars collabs. Both 'dads', one interested in teaching english slang and the other in learning it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9978576
Homobeggars are usually redditor Holofans best evidenced by them acting like HoloPro is the only existing agency out there and discounting networks some Stars have been building to Nijis, Animare girls, and other outsiders. Some are also homofans but in general most of them are really closer to Hololive hako-oshis.
It's obvious there's nothing most Holo girls can offer to the Stars, and all the downsides, angry schizo gachikois and all. Outside the hako-oshis there's a much better audience overlap and better exposure if the Stars network with Niji males instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955557
wasn't it nijiniggers or was it a multi-hit combo of a shit ton of factors

[Anonymous No.]

>>9979054
there were various factors but the biggest one by far was her step dad

[Anonymous No.]

>>9958249
nips can literally reenact nanking and pearl harbor, we are just small-time burglars in comparison

[Sage No.]

>>9979054
I dare say she'll graduate any other day even if she didnt graduate that day. If she wasnt bullshitting on what she says, then she has the biggest family issues among Holomembers on top of being suicidal. Plus her content focuses on singing, which is not even niche in Hololive.

[Sage No.]

>>9958249
Lol
https://youtu.be/fa9O1cBQV_M

[Anonymous No.]

>>9977206
>>9977488
Source your claims

[Anonymous No.]

>>9981669
The faggot still being stalked by others right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9982887
Not him but:
https://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv331000312

[Anonymous No.]

Anti idolfag schizos here have wrapped themselves so hard in self delusion that they think fandead would cheer Rusbia on while she has sex with strange men on stream
There's zero sense of perspective in this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>9987370
homofags and anti idolfags want to destroy hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>9987370
>faggot anon posted the Mafumafu on Rushia's Discord to /jp/
>got told to fuck off
>the one fandead that replied posted his SC payslip and swore loyalty to Rushia
>posted the screenshot on 5ch
>got told to fuck off by nips
>Rushia streams as usual
Fandeads 1, schizo 0

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955354
Whores

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955354
>Pekola
>Russia
They "collab" with males before turning into "idols" if you know what I mean. Im willing to bet given their backgrounds they still "collab" with males behind the scenes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9969551
>>9955864
>>9956228
>>9956431
>>9959159
>>9961454
>>9969551
>>9969737
>>9970340
>>9978312
Newfags. Russia's roommate is a camwhore who was livestreaming striping infront of some random guy before becoming an """"idol"""". cuckdeads keep coping

[Anonymous No.]

Pekora won't. Noel won't. Rushia probably won't. Not sure about Lamy, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9990006
Almost all of the holos did this early on before they gained traction, you retard. Miko collabed with males, then like all the others she did a 180 and said "no I'm an idol I can't associate with males on camera" when she got popular enough. Miko even talked about eroge with Maimoto Keisuke once. Anyone who's not a newfag knows this. Okayu also collabed with males, then stopped when she got popular enough as well.

If you're gonna try to shitpost, then at least don't make yourself look like a complete retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9994774
keep coping cuck, they still whore themselves out behind your back

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955354
Just for a collab I think nothing much will change like it has been with Calli and Gigguk, Ollie and Astel or Fubuki and Oga.
/vt/ will be filled with doomfags for a couple of days, but that's it.

[Anonymous No.]

collabs with males are always awkward. there's a lot of pressure on both sides and it's just not very good content. towa's pulling it off but she's already comfortable with her fanbase being cucked beyond belief.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9995843
it absolutely ruined Ollie for some time and you already have to be masochistic to enjoy Calli's droning voice in the first place

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955354
>what could possibly happen
Shart Impact

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955354
Rushia WILL never touch male
same with Lamy who refused yagoo to even take photos of him holding her GFE merch

[Anonymous No.]

>>9957504
that's their main source of income
biggest gachikoi are always idolfags

[Anonymous No.]

>>9969741

[Anonymous No.]

>>9956622
whats surprising about it? nousagis are in love with pekora.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955354
I'm all for it just purely for it to filter people. The people who think they they can't collab with males are also the same people who is most likely the most unhinged in the community and delude themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9997692
The people who think they they can collab with males are also the same people who is most likely never watch their stream or pay a single dime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9956880
>>9957032
Pekora does care about her idol image

Remember that time she started crying when she opened up how everyone jokes about her not acting like idol?

Holy fuck she would have a meltdown if everyone would treat her like used goods

[Anonymous No.]

>>9969741
Those people are literally funding their living

Its only right that they don't make it into pure cuckoldry

[Anonymous No.]

Lamy would never collab with a male and jeopardise our engagement.

[Anonymous No.]

Morons typing paragraphs here ,not knowing this post was made by a butthurt homofag schizo .
Backlash would make COVER loose money..so not happening

[Anonymous No.]

>>9998872
Cover no longer restrics from interacting with males though, holos get to choose and they seem to not do it

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955354
>they collab with males?
Just imagine how awkward that would be. Especially for Noel

[Anonymous No.]

>>9998872
>butthurt homofag schizo
proof?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9996066
I've watched many collabs and I can say the only awkward thing about it is the insufferable chat, when it's a collab with holostars the chat gets so cringy you'd wish they never collabed

[Anonymous No.]

Why do so many people here think that "idol culture" means never associating with a man. Real Japanese idols associate with men, have male friends, go out for meals with males of the same agencies they work for or ones they appear on the same TV shows with.

"Idol culture" is, don't get caught actually fucking one of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9999493
Understand modern streaming simp culture and you have it the way people are treating it now

[Anonymous No.]

Fans other than lamy won't have a rough time collaborating with a guy.

[Anonymous No.]

Pekora would get backlash, but her audience is big enough that it wouldn't matter.
Rushia might lose a significant amount of her gachikoi income depending on how much she directly interacted with the guy in a friendly way.
Noel probably wouldn't want to collab with a man to begin with, even setting aside the business reasons not to.
Lamy would lose some of her gachikois but most wouldn't give a shit unless she fucked the guy on stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9955693
No, it caused /qa/ to raid us. Too bad they refuse to return to their shithole they call a board