Is this the first time Hololive has ever officially forced together a group of their members into a unit instead of letting them just form naturally and coming up with a name afterwards?

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Anonymous Fri Sep 17 19:39:10 2021 No.9950998 [Reply] [Original]

Is this the first time Hololive has ever officially forced together a group of their members into a unit instead of letting them just form naturally and coming up with a name afterwards?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 19:39:40 2021 No.9951012 This is Marine's project

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 19:40:30 2021 No.9951039 File: 24 KB, 389x389, 1624450268558.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] it should have been nene with ina not this corporate shit

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 19:41:10 2021 No.9951055 They've done thematically similar groups before but I don't think they were named. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1yXDcuwzpY

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 19:41:28 2021 No.9951065 There have been plenty. Most fail, just like this one.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 19:43:13 2021 No.9951112 >>9951039 You don't seriously think this stops Nene and Ina from collabing, do you? If anything it's better that they don't saddle that duo with an official name and curse it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 19:43:28 2021 No.9951120 >>9950998 Forced group collabs are fine. You can't always choose who to work with when you're an adult but you have to make the most of it

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 19:45:42 2021 No.9951188 I kinda prefer the groups that seem to form out of nowhere, like the Bakatare who were basically just a random grabbag from different gens who had a great collab and just kept working together.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 19:49:36 2021 No.9951287 >>9950998 No, miComet also exists.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 20:01:45 2021 No.9951653 >>9951065 If this one fails it can be blamed entirely on forcing Gura, who cannot speak any Japanese, to be in there and creating maximum awkwardness. I have to assume it's because Marine really, REALLY wants to fuck Gura.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 20:03:13 2021 No.9951701 >>9951653 Can you blame her?

Anonymous Fri Sep 17 20:06:14 2021 No.9951833

>Is this the first time Hololive has ever officially forced together a group of their members into a unit instead of letting them just form naturally and coming up with a name afterwards?
What do you think a generation of vtubers is if not a "forced together group," you unironic retard?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 20:07:04 2021 No.9951859 >>9951653 Gura wants to do idol stuff she stated that herself. Its just that gura has to shake that akwardness and get comfortable even if she doesnt know Japanese. The 2nd stream was way less akward than the 1st.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 20:07:05 2021 No.9951860 >thread reader No, there's quite a few of those. >Curry Meshi - Pekora, Subaru and Aqua >NEGIU - Subaru, Aqua and Nene >literally the entirety of Bloom

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 20:07:42 2021 No.9951887 >>9950998 Shark has decided to join with Aqua gang in MC stream, but Ina?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 20:10:23 2021 No.9951990 >>9951701 Yes. Just because nothing happened with Shion doesn't mean that you can get together with Shion's wife.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 20:12:46 2021 No.9952073 /vt/ was a mistake

Anonymous Fri Sep 17 20:15:28 2021 No.9952158

>>9951859
>The 2nd stream was way less akward than the 1st
You can put a good portion of that on not having to host. She's said publicly that she doesn't like the stress of hosting collabs on her channel. Totally understandable especially in this case where she's got all the transitions and normal stream shit, 4 avatars and A-chan to juggle, the audio for all of them, the gameplay, and that's before you even get to the language barrier and nerves. I can't even imagine how nervous she must have been.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 20:17:47 2021 No.9952241 >>9950998 GAMERS

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 20:21:44 2021 No.9952402 >>9950998 Pekomiko

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 20:41:33 2021 No.9953041 >>9951860 Who is "thread reader"?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 20:43:51 2021 No.9953119 >>9951012 this. marine wanted this I bet she even wrote a lot of the scripts

Anonymous Fri Sep 17 20:49:21 2021 No.9953327

>>9951887
Ina is like Raymond, everybody loves her. I find it amusing that Marine wanted to be friends with her so much that she did the mental gymnastics to justify her being related to the ocean because of octopus tentacles, even though Cthulhu stuff has nothing to do with the ocean.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 20:51:16 2021 No.9953399 >>9953327 Cthulhu isn’t really unrelated to the ocean anon

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 20:57:50 2021 No.9953661 >>9953327 >octopus isnt related to the ocean >cthulhu isnt related to the ocean i present to you: maid with an anchor on her hat

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 20:58:00 2021 No.9953664 >>9953327 >he doesn't know

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 20:59:47 2021 No.9953728 >>9953661 Maid with an anchor on her hat is named Aqua, which means water.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 21:00:19 2021 No.9953746 >>9953661 Crew relief is an important part of any seafaring adventure.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 21:16:38 2021 No.9954561 >>9953327 >even though Cthulhu stuff has nothing to do with the ocean. Where do you people come from? Cthulhu is literally a giant sea monster.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 21:19:23 2021 No.9954690 >>9953327 Anon, your Call of Cthulu reps...

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 21:22:45 2021 No.9954875 >>9950998 >Pekomiko no not really

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 22:03:17 2021 No.9957003 >>9951287 What's the origin of micomet? I have seen them call each other business partners as a joke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSnZLHIC5Qg

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 22:08:35 2021 No.9957309 How about you start watching streams before you talk shit

Anonymous Fri Sep 17 22:08:59 2021 No.9957334

>>9951860
None of those are really comparable. They're all meant for music only, two of them are sponsorship deals and Bloom is literally just one show/album with the explicit intent of mixing holos around. Umisea is being sold as if it were something like Bakatare or SMOK.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 22:13:23 2021 No.9957538 >>9957309 If the streams were good and they'd showed any chemistry nobody would be talking shit. Granted, the MC stream was much better, but the Mario Party stream and the animations left too much of an impression already.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 22:21:03 2021 No.9958002 >>9954690 The dev of that game hates Ina

Anonymous Fri Sep 17 22:24:14 2021 No.9958194

>>9957538
>3 turbo autists need time to warm up to each other
Shocker
>English Dialogue written by japanese speakers and VA'd by streamers is clunky
Shocker
Do people here think HoloGra is any better? It's just dumb fun intended to get the JP nikis closer to the ENs. Meanwhile this board pretends that it's some catastrophic failure by management that will certainly tank all the channels involved.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 22:25:15 2021 No.9958265 Absolutely fucking hilarious that Gura & Marine are in the same group & Yagoo bonked Gura for wanting to sing Ahoy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 22:26:11 2021 No.9958324 >>9958194 Explaining why it's bad doesn't make it any better. Also, yes, hologra is much better than those shorts.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 22:32:02 2021 No.9958632 >>9958002 If Lovecraft still alive, would he hate Ina too?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 22:32:40 2021 No.9958667 >>9958632 no

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 22:33:15 2021 No.9958698 >>9958632 Yes, but then he would later marry her.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 22:43:56 2021 No.9959293 >>9958324 Neither win because both are the same thing, minus one having a specific theming and more of a continuing narrative compared to random shit that occasionally references past episodes

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 22:50:30 2021 No.9959678 >>9958002 Proof?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 22:51:32 2021 No.9959742 >>9958194 Which one is the one you are saying is NOT a turbo autist?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 23:00:14 2021 No.9960200 >>9959742 Marine seems pretty social. Maybe not Kiara level extroverted but not a total Hikki like the other three

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 00:06:39 2021 No.9963255

>>9960200
Marine strikes me as the kind of person who is social in a community like this but when she has to talk to normal people she's all shy and reserved. Just a feeling I get about her based on the way she behaves, I don't know anything about her life.

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 00:26:16 2021 No.9964124

>>9957538
>>9958194
There was this really dumb narrative going around that HoloJP hated HoloEN because they didn't let them in any videos on the official channel, these UMISEA shorts pretty much shoot that theory dead so it was worth it to finally shut those people up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 00:27:44 2021 No.9964198 >>9950998 Gura was gushing in her member's stream yesterday about how happy she was to be invited to do this and how fun it was. Get fucked dumb faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 00:39:08 2021 No.9964785 Wait a minute. Is the whole reason this group happened because of the one Alice Magic animation that had all four of them in it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2TamAjKizU

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 01:14:26 2021 No.9966179 >>9958265 this is so dumb. Gura has sung Ahoy many times. The only (1) time she couldn't was on a sponsored stream.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 01:16:15 2021 No.9966248 >>9958265 >Things that happened only once during a sponsored stream because the people paying Gura didn't want her to sing perverted songs You sing ahoy at your job and see what happens.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 01:16:36 2021 No.9966262 >>9950998 None of them actually like each other so no, all units and pairings are forced together by management.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 01:20:45 2021 No.9966415 >>9950998 >All the members have talked in the past how they want to do something together >Gura and Marine excited to work on a project and probably instigated it >"wtf this is so artificial and forced" Better luck next time

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 01:30:17 2021 No.9966808 >>9966415 Gura and Marine already did a project together. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmm8ig9P_Ak

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 01:33:22 2021 No.9966935 >>9966808 In what reality does a 14 second meme video count as a "project".

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 01:35:45 2021 No.9967019 >>9953327 Nigger Cthulhu literally lives in the sea

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 01:37:08 2021 No.9967090 >>9958632 What does phrenology say about korean skulls?

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 01:40:02 2021 No.9967230

>>9964124
Also, I don't understand why they don't just have Gura and Ina speak Japanese in the animations? Even considering that Gura can't speak Japanese, that didn't stop her from doing Reflect in Japanese. Just give her a script to read with the text in romaji. I dunno why they wouldn't do that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 01:42:12 2021 No.9967347 >>9950998 reminder these whores (especially Ina) ignored Coco for a year. Draw Coco, you dumb whore.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 01:43:51 2021 No.9967433 >>9967347 Pbbt. FUCK COCO! She's gone! She was awful and now she's gone. Hahahaha! Fuck her!

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 01:44:03 2021 No.9967445

>>9967230
Because the entire point of Umisea is to bring EN/JP together and overcoming the language barrier is part of that. The video has two sets of subs so EN/JP viewers each understand half the dialogue and can read the other half so they get the same experience.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 02:17:53 2021 No.9968968 Man. Council's subs fizzled out really hard. I guess Gura was an outlier and nobody's ever going to repeat that level of success again.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 02:26:51 2021 No.9969343 >>9967347 Coco who?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 02:30:14 2021 No.9969482 >>9953728 her surname means harbor as well

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 02:31:07 2021 No.9969515 >>9958632 Would he hate a korean during/just after the korean war? Gee anon I don't know. Actually I do. He would totally hate her.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 02:33:13 2021 No.9969608 >>9969515 She's Canadian you idiot. He'd probably still hate her but for entirely different, equally stupid reasons.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 02:33:29 2021 No.9969616 >>9950998 >O'Riends >Anpontan >Bakatare >NoeFure >OKBR

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 02:35:02 2021 No.9969682 >>9957003 Friends from NND days.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 03:54:09 2021 No.9974389 >>9951120 You have got some fucking nerve to post that here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 03:56:06 2021 No.9974495 >>9950998 No, they do that with literally every gen. Thats what a gen is anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 04:01:02 2021 No.9974774 >>9958632 For someone who named their cat Nigger, I think that would be based.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 04:02:50 2021 No.9974894 >>9974774 >person does bad thing >"Duhhh dat's based?!" 4chan in a nutshell.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 04:05:51 2021 No.9975095 >>9964785 >Wait a minute No, you wait and lurk 1 year before posting again. Your question has been discussed to death since the start of the week

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 05:00:31 2021 No.9978127 File: 390 KB, 220x220, 1619560718667.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9974894 >bad thing

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 05:20:37 2021 No.9979038 >>9958632 Initally, but the Kuroneko pancake song would win him over.

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 05:42:19 2021 No.9979826

>>9969616
All of these were formed naturally after they had collabed for a while instead of cramming together four people, many of which have never even done a single collab before, and saying "Okay you're a group now." Seriously why did they not even think to build up to this by having Gura and Ina collab individually with Aqua and Marine and make sure their personalities are compatible first.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 05:47:02 2021 No.9979972 >hating on anything hololive does because hololive is the "mom and dad" of this shit. ITS NOT A PHASE MOM OMG I HATE YOU MOM FUCK YOU DAD slams door

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 05:47:57 2021 No.9979999 >>9950998 >he's still trying to force his rrat that this is all the upper management's idea and has nothing to do with the involved parties pathetic. take your meds.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 05:49:09 2021 No.9980033 >>9953119 stupid slut, I hate her

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 06:03:43 2021 No.9980459 >>9980033 Lol seethe Coco, seethe.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 06:26:35 2021 No.9981163 File: 276 KB, 501x550, 1626098649702.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9979972 >action

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 06:34:09 2021 No.9981398

>>9950998
You know, what surprises, or not, the most is how JP truly pictures Gura. You can already see it with how both Marine & Aqua absolutely looks their shit at whatever Gura is doing, but the hololive short anime emphasizes it even more.

More than an idol, Gura is mostly like a cute mascot/pet that they all want to have. It's funny to see how she completely falls under the dumdum-with-good-survival-instinct archetype.

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 07:13:04 2021 No.9982442

>>9981398
It's really not too different from Gura's actual personality on stream. That's how she comes off, dumb but cute and sometimes does clever things. Of course her inability to speak Japanese also makes her look like a cute dumb pet, it's like how your dog just looks blankly at you when you talk to them. That's how Gura is.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 07:16:40 2021 No.9982558 >>9951859 Ewww...idols

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 07:19:37 2021 No.9982654 >>9964198 The circle jerking is real

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 07:23:45 2021 No.9982796 >>9982442 And others inability to speak english make them look like 3rd worlders

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 07:30:51 2021 No.9983007 >>9966415 >talked in the past >something >probably Whoa, look at all this substantiated evidence!

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 07:32:48 2021 No.9983054 >>9982796 I didn't even mention how insecure Americans are, and here one comes right now. They're so insecure that they can hear people thinking it.

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 07:32:55 2021 No.9983056

>>9982442
>Of course her inability to speak Japanese
You know, that's still one thing I really can't understand. Even if you only spend time watching anime without trying to learn anything at all you'd still pick up a few words or sentences after a year or so.
Whether or not she's truly been senzawa in the past, you'd assume that she'd at least have some basic knowledge to even just exchange a few words. She seems to be able to read kanas, which means she's at least trying to learn recently, but I really can't understand how she's not able to even ask basic stuff like "nani wo shiteru no" without stuttering.

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 07:43:36 2021 No.9983307

>>9983056
I'd chalk that up to a combination of her crippling social anxiety and lack of motivation to actually learn. Some people you can tell have a desire to learn languages and actually notice the improvement over time, like Marine with her English. Gura is not one of those people.

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 07:45:08 2021 No.9983359

>>9958265
>Yagoo bonked Gura for wanting to sing Ahoy
Why don't you add the context to that, because it was during a paid promotion for Princess Connect where Gura was singing Princess Connect songs to promote Princess Connect. Non-Princess Connect songs would not be songs that Princess Connect would have paid for to be sung.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 07:53:59 2021 No.9983566 >>9983054 I'm european actually but ok

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 07:59:01 2021 No.9983669 >>9966935 Fucking hell, check the Marine meme review you utter newfag.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 08:01:52 2021 No.9983740 >>9950998 It probably would have been better if it was just the anime shorts. Forming an actual group and the live collabs just felt too unnatural.

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 09:44:23 2021 No.9986749

>>9980459
Marine and Coco get along quite well. You don't invite someone over multiple times to your home, many occasions off cam, that you don't like. Coco's friend group at Hololive is basically Rushia, Aki, Marine, and Kanata. Suisei and Anemachi are more close acquaintances that live nearby.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 09:45:52 2021 No.9986779 >>9983054 >Americans Rent free

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 12:00:15 2021 No.9989779 >>9950998 Nah there's been a bunch before. And just like them nothing will ever happen with this one after they released the song

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 12:01:48 2021 No.9989812 >>9983669 That was entirely Marine, Gura had nothing to do with Marines meme review.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 12:05:44 2021 No.9989910 >>9960200 Nah Marine is definitely Kiara's level of social if not more. Remember it was Marine reaching out to Kiara that got her out of her slump at the beginning

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 12:28:55 2021 No.9990464 >>9951653 >Marine really, REALLY wants to fuck Gura. Marine is a lesbian?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 14:22:56 2021 No.9993929 >>9969682 micomet are friends from the NND times? huh, didn't know this

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 14:28:12 2021 No.9994092 >>9990464 No

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 14:31:23 2021 No.9994201

>>9979826
Have you even watch the streams? They enjoyed each others company but their just raging autists that need time to break the ice................which would've happened a long time ago if everyone was on the same Minecraft server since the beginning

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 14:33:10 2021 No.9994269 >>9957538 >If the streams were good and they'd showed any chemistry nobody would be talking shit You know that isn't true. If anything, the more schizos seethe, the better the collab went.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 14:34:55 2021 No.9994322 >>9950998 >gura only loves ame >ina just wants gura to love her and makes this group but throws in aqua and marine as an excuse >gura still doesn't love her >meanwhile ina ignoring irys a sailors tragedy

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 14:38:34 2021 No.9994458 >>9952158 yes it was ironic she literally said she hates hosting collabs 1 (ONE) stream before that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 14:40:01 2021 No.9994499 >>9953327 dude, this whole thing is based on a fan animation that's basically the whole of ep 1. ina was part of it then so she's part of it now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 14:40:27 2021 No.9994516 >>9994092 >No They why did Marine want to fuck Gura?

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 14:41:01 2021 No.9994543

>>9994269
There was shit ton of good collab this week. All this positive energy had the schizos in complete shambles desperately looking for any rrat to stir up drama. Theyre even taking tiny comments like 'see you in 9 months' and trying to make something out of that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 14:42:02 2021 No.9994574 >>9950998 Might be corporate shit for forcing them but their reactions and stuff on stream were genuine and they were having fun, unless you go for some retarded "script" narrative.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 14:42:51 2021 No.9994608 Kiara and KFP seething because UMISEA got official recognition before HOLOTORI

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 14:48:43 2021 No.9994837 >>9967347 I love coco and i love ina, and you need to just let it rest you dumb chink stirirng retard

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 14:54:48 2021 No.9995093 >>9994608 Wont be surprised if thats the next one. Subaru Reine Kiara and now Mumei

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 14:59:17 2021 No.9995262

>>9994269
You can group up everybody that you disagree with in a bundle and call them schizos if you want, but that only serves to give you peace of mind. There's going to be schizos shitting on anything, but that doesn't mean there won't be people sincerely shitting on things they think are bad.

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 15:01:06 2021 No.9995334
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UMISEA was a complete mistake.
This just goes to show what happens when you try to force people together. All the god-tier combinations in Hololive are natural instead of forced such as Okakoro or Takamori.

UMISEA on the other hand don't even speak the same language and even within the JPs and ENs, Marine isn't that close to Aqua, and Ina isn't close to Gura. To top it off, Ina can't voice-act for shit and sounds completely out of place among Marine and Aqua who have done dozens of Hologra episodes, plus Gura who also has previous voice acting experience.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 16:13:42 2021 No.9998457 >>9958002 Call of Cthulhu is the name of the short story Cthulhu originates from, not just a video game. Do your /lit/ reps.

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 16:20:31 2021 No.9998738

>>9995334
>Had one year to break the ice still had garbage chemistry
Selen and Kanae had a Collab and they were still able to communicate and have fun despite the language barrier.
The reason your shitting your pants for forced collabs are because Holos have are socially autistic children with no chemistry

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 16:45:53 2021 No.9999881 >>9994322 Irys is for Kronii.

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 17:26:58 2021 No.10002509
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>>9953327
>even though Cthulhu stuff has nothing to do with the ocean.
>watches eldritch god priestess
>never read "The Call of Cthulhu"

why are takodachis like this?
christ you might be one of the dumbest person to post on this board.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 17:36:39 2021 No.10003093 >>9999881 pretty sure mumei is for kronii you stupid bitch

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 17:54:19 2021 No.10004108 >>9983669 >>9989812 What are either of you talking about?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 17:56:16 2021 No.10004179 Just fuck off already

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 17:56:29 2021 No.10004194 >>9994516 Marine is omnisexual. That means she wants to fuck everything.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 17:58:33 2021 No.10004256 >>9999881 IRyS and Kronii have never even collabed, what in the blue blazes are you on about?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 17:59:50 2021 No.10004308 >>9994608 Hi egg.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:00:02 2021 No.10004316 Aqua is punching way above her league in this group.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:00:55 2021 No.10004351 >>9994322 Keep up, Gura/Calli and Ame/Kiara are the new pairings.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:02:09 2021 No.10004386 >>10004316 Fuck off newfag. Aqua is one of the most recognizable and important members of Hololive, on top of being the most idol-like alongside the likes of Suisei and Sora.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:09:24 2021 No.10004609 >>9998738 Just because you're sincerely shitting on something doesn't mean you have a good reason for it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:10:26 2021 No.10004625 >>9995262 Just because you're sincerely shitting on something doesn't mean you have a good reason for it.

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:13:07 2021 No.10004716

>>10004625
True, but in this case I do, and it's been given several times by a lot of people throughout several threads. Soulless, forced group with no chemistry, boring collabs, ridiculously bad animation and mediocre song, everything made all the worse considering this is being done with some of Cover's most prominent talents.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:14:41 2021 No.10004778 >>10004716 All of this is just your opinion and there are many more people saying they love the chemistry, enjoyed the animations and thought the song was great.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:19:06 2021 No.10004926 >>10004778 Good for them, I'm honestly envious.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:22:20 2021 No.10005042 >>10004386 This. I'm not even a fan but she's undeniably one of the major talents of the organization.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:22:49 2021 No.10005055 >>10004316 Is she? Sure she won't stand out but the useless maid archetype can be put pretty much anywhere.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:23:49 2021 No.10005094 >>9998457 But what's this about the dev of the game hating Ina? I can't find anything and the poster never responded when pressed on it. I have to assume it's a made up narrative that only succeeded to drive me crazy and nobody else.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:25:31 2021 No.10005164 >>10004386 >>10005042 Please. She's been around for two years longer than EN and barely has more subs than them. What the fuck is she doing? She has no excuse because Marine is doing way better than her.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:29:11 2021 No.10005275 >>10004256 >IRyS and Kronii have never even collabed, Did you miss the autism kino?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:29:17 2021 No.10005281 >>10005164 Mindless numberfagging is rotting your brain.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:30:13 2021 No.10005308 >>10005164 She's like Ayame, they're just both figure of cuteness. Cute things don't need to do anything.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:32:07 2021 No.10005361 >>10005275 ???

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:34:02 2021 No.10005425 >>9995334 >Marine isn't that close to Aqua They're very close, Marine was one of the three non-gen2 Aqua bothered adding to her latest MV, and Marine always gushes about Aqua on her streams, and mentions they talk off stream a lot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:35:43 2021 No.10005465 I swear you Americans just bitch constantly about everything. It was a neat little thing, content was produced, all is good. That's it. There's nothing to complain about.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:49:18 2021 No.10005869 >>10005465 America was founded on bitching. "Waah, we have to send money to the queen!" Good grief.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:50:33 2021 No.10005910 >>10005361 Go watch the last 3rd of Kronii's Minecraft stream and watch Irys' at the same time

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:57:21 2021 No.10006113 >>10005094 >drive me crazy HELP ME TAKOMAN

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:58:22 2021 No.10006135 >>10003093 Moomy is for her boyfriend.

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:58:42 2021 No.10006149

>>10005910
I thought there was supposed to be a collab ban. Are they just blatantly breaking Cover's rules and challenging them to do something about it? It's kind of a power move, Cover wouldn't dare to fire them over something so minor, it would kill the company.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 19:03:30 2021 No.10006297 >>10006149 They spent over an hour fooling around in an impromptu collab where Irys' chased down Kronii and tried to find her bunker before Kronii came back after Irys was playing with Ina.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 19:05:17 2021 No.10006345 >>9950998 Gen 1 was forcing Haato, Fubuki, Matsuri, Aki, and Chris/Mel to interact with each other more than Sora and Robocco

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 19:09:59 2021 No.10006516 >>10006297 Yeah. And how did they do that when there's a collab ban?

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 19:22:36 2021 No.10006991

>>9983307
Is Marine's English still improving? I know she was taking actual English courses earlier this year but those came to an end when health issues and depression over setbacks really knocked her motivation for a loop. I do think she has a genuine desire to learn it, unlike Noel and her cashgrab duolingo spam when she was closing in on one million, but I kinda got the sense that Marine's efforts have stagnated and she has settled more for just understanding English rather than speaking it.

Feel sad now, we will never get that English only collab with Marine and Coco...

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 19:34:21 2021 No.10007394 >>10006149 >>10006516 For MC it's as easy as just not going on VC. Odd but Gura was able to mess with Mumei a week or two ago with the only possibility of retribution being Mumei learning the game to prank her back.

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 19:38:01 2021 No.10007541

>>10005164
She's one of the biggest factors when comes to Hololive growth in Japan, at a time where it was completely dominated by Nijisanji and Hololive was a bunch fo who's, Aqua broke through with the 'you can watch a cute girl who's ALSO good at games'.
Her Dadada Tenshi cover exploded and was the most viewed Hololive Cover up until this past month, where Saga Jihen, who's Suisei + Entirety of Sankisei, barely surpassing it. Also it came out at a time where Hololive was starting to gain traction, helping the cause.
Aqua is also constantly working on concerts, promotional events and she's often picked by advertisers, her merch sells like water as well. Akutan is much bigger than newfag EOPs can even imagine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 19:41:28 2021 No.10007680 File: 218 KB, 1103x650, 1628368775329.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10004926 Here's a bunch of people just from today who love UMISEA. What do you have?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 19:43:52 2021 No.10007773 >>9983056 It's almost as if learning a language takes actual effort

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 19:44:53 2021 No.10007818 >>10007541 All this and you didn't even mention that Aqua had a horse race named after her. Horse races are huge in Japan. Nobody else in Hololive has achieved that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 19:46:11 2021 No.10007876 >>10007680 Wow, a whole 3 people.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 19:47:28 2021 No.10007945 >>9951039 Why would you ruin nene by saddling her with Ina

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 19:49:25 2021 No.10008026 >>10006345 >Chris/Mel Huh?

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 19:49:31 2021 No.10008031

>>10007773
And then, there are fucking retards like you missing the whole point. It's like you didn't even read the post.
We're not talking about speedrunning a language here, we're talking about a girl who's obviously been into JP nerdiness before, who joined a fucking JP company and still can't be able to do a proper greeting that you can learn in 5 minutes with any Japanese-book-for-idiots.

She literally could be producing content at the same time with the whole duolingo thing. It obviously won't make her fluent but at least would give her some basis and even more excuses for Marine to horny so it's a win-win.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 19:49:40 2021 No.10008040 >>9952073 this. Fuckers never get satisfied with anything.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 19:50:51 2021 No.10008080 >>10007876 And yet you post nothing in return because I have you backed into a corner. You cannot provide any proof of your claims.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 19:50:58 2021 No.10008087 >>10007680 I'm that guy is a rapper, then I'm fucking Tupac.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 19:55:22 2021 No.10008277 >>10007680 >hololive reaction videos Anon, you could have linked a post from this board filled with buzzwords and bait and it would have still been worth more than that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 19:57:07 2021 No.10008361 Hahaha, another whiny thread. Pretty pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 19:57:35 2021 No.10008382 >>10007945 At least we can agree that a loud dumb brat's content doesn't mix well with Ina.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 19:58:50 2021 No.10008438 >>10008031 She's lazy, simple as that. She hardly ever collabs with anyone and mostly plays American games. I have to assume she was forced to become part of this group against her will.

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 20:00:20 2021 No.10008510

>>10008438
Why would she be forced. She doesn't need to be forced, she adores Aqua and Marine and really looks up to them and being pushed into this sort of collab is exactly what she wanted, since on her own would be very hard for her to approach someone like Aqua.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 20:03:01 2021 No.10008636 >>10008510 Big corpo, they own her

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 20:04:36 2021 No.10008701

>>10008438
>She's lazy, simple as that.
Fair enough.

>I have to assume she was forced to become part of this group against her will.
Probably not. She has expressed numerous times that she wanted to do more collabs and overall more "idol" stuff. But going back to point 1, she is lazy and basically doesn't like organizing events.

The one point where I might agree about being against her will is her whole uwufication by Japan, if you can read between the lines of what she said in her #evilgura unarchived stream. I find it funny that she tried to escape her past uwu only to basically become a full uwu mascot for the JP audience. Talk about irony.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 20:04:37 2021 No.10008702 >>10008636 She doesn't need to be forced, she'd gladly do it.

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 20:04:43 2021 No.10008707

>>10008031
Also this post is kind of funny going "She's from a Japanese company, why doesn't she speak Japanese." Meanwhile in Nijisanji threads people say about Petra "It doesn't matter if she's from a Japanese company, she joined the English branch, why does she speak so much Japanese!" Just goes to show you that these girls can't win, no matter what they do someone will always bitch about it. Best thing to do is whatever makes them happy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 20:04:53 2021 No.10008718 >>10005164 Is /vt/ really like this...

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 20:08:22 2021 No.10008860 >>9950998 If you truly want a forced group, then randomly mesh 4 Holo members in a group with absolutely no sense or correlation. Something like Noel, Risu, Haachama, and then Mumei.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 20:12:33 2021 No.10009035 >>10008860 We haven't seen any of these collab together so you never know, they might actually be very compatible with each other.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 20:15:26 2021 No.10009149 >>10008438 Who Gura or Ame? you described both

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 20:20:43 2021 No.10009343 >>10009149 Calling Ame lazy is by far one of the most deranged takes I have ever seen on this board.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 20:21:31 2021 No.10009373 >>10009343 tummy hort

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 20:28:37 2021 No.10009630 >>10009373 What?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 21:10:07 2021 No.10011357 >>10007818 Pretty sure Coco did.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 21:13:24 2021 No.10011487 JP does forced content all the time. Most things like Error or Gen concerts are basically forced, but I think most girls really enjoy it or even look forward to it. These projects are not grown 'organically' per se.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 21:14:52 2021 No.10011531 >>9950998 Every Hololive generation is what you are describing

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 21:15:54 2021 No.10011564

>>10008707
>these girls can't win
Since when is having lifeless losers whining about you on anonymous internet boards losing? The story of hololive antis, including nip antis, is a story of constantly trying to attack holos, but always having them come out on top in the end, with an ever growing fanbase that actually supports them instead of trying to play high almighty and find fault in everything they do. Well, except for Coco and Aloe. Salty antis will cry about 全肯定 or reddit hugboxes, but they're the ones who always end up miserable in the end.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 21:16:27 2021 No.10011585 >>9969682 what about miko and peko

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 21:28:05 2021 No.10012029 >>10011357 Fitting since she looks like a horse. BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 21:34:57 2021 No.10012278 >>10011564 >全肯定 What is this, I plugged it into google and all it gives me is a picture of some cute anime girl? Google translate says it means "all affirmations" which does not clear things up at all.

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 21:42:58 2021 No.10012562

>>10012278
All affirmations is technically correct, it's used to refer to how certain fans only know how to give praise and talk about positive things without ever allowing for criticism in the dialogue. Not exactly the same, but also not very different from the way we use hugbox over here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 22:13:33 2021 No.10013799 Can someone explain to me why this is still going? Like I get the videos but why multiple collab streams? I honestly don’t get the point.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 22:18:23 2021 No.10014014 >>10013799 Why would it end? It's not like any of them are leaving the agency. At worst it's just a themed thing that lasts all summer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 22:19:16 2021 No.10014042 >>9967347 >coco She’s been gone for how long now? People leave grow some balls.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 22:20:16 2021 No.10014089 >>10014014 Forced collabed aren’t fun tho it feels extremely fake.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 23:33:53 2021 No.10017231 >>10002509 Just saw someone on /tv/ who complained that Los Angeles is full of Mexicans. Los Angeles, the city with a Spanish name because it was settled by Mexicans. That's my new candidate for the dumbest poster on 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 23:57:44 2021 No.10018201 >>9951039 Polka is not amused reading this

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 00:00:57 2021 No.10018323 >>9952073 in an alternate reality, pekora sneezed instead of saying ogey rrat and this place never existed

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 00:01:10 2021 No.10018330 >>10007680 >What do you have? Anonymous imageboard shitposting

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 00:59:09 2021 No.10020682 >>10018330 And why does their Minecraft surver have a big Tennis racket?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 01:15:24 2021 No.10021292 File: 31 KB, 329x310, 1630513543128.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 02:02:23 2021 No.10022980 >>9953327 >Ina is like Raymond, everybody loves her. Wrong. That bitch still won't draw Coco.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 02:28:58 2021 No.10024566 >>10022980 >Coco asked us personally to support Hololive and her kouhais after she depart. Coco love Ina. That is matter.

Anonymous Sun Sep 19 02:36:12 2021 No.10024977

>>10024566
Not only is that probably the same poster who whined about the same thing earlier in the thread and got so promptly obliterated that he's just coming back and pretending to be a different person. But those people have some serious cognitive dissonance. They claim to love Coco but don't respect her wishes and say she didn't really mean them. Because it's not about her. It's about them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 02:41:20 2021 No.10025250 >>10024977 I think Chink Artia discord try flaseflagging as Cocofan. It is not new anon

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 02:46:56 2021 No.10025621 >>10025250 This post tripped my filter for racial slurs so I assume it adds nothing of value to the conversation and will not be reading it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 02:51:26 2021 No.10025837 >>9951859 Fuck sakes. Amerimutts shouldn't be doing idolshit. Jap idolshit is already cringe enough.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 03:05:01 2021 No.10026620 >>10025837 Holy shit, I need to get out of here. If we have people who come to /vt/ to shit on idols it's only a matter of time before we have genuine /v/tards coming here to bicker about normie video game shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 03:07:26 2021 No.10026753 imagine thinking that anything that happens wasn't thought up by fat japanese businessmen every single detail is carefully controlled and if you think otherwise you're a brainwashed retard

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 03:07:44 2021 No.10026771 >>9950998 They had plenty of time to link up but they all admit to being too shy to do it so they have to manufacture it themselves

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 03:08:53 2021 No.10026833 >>10026753 Japanese people aren't fat. That would be Americans.

Anonymous Sun Sep 19 03:32:50 2021 No.10028327

>>10026753
>every single detail is carefully controlled
lol, no, nobody is saying that. If they actually carefully controlled every single detail they might at least have put out something decent. Instead they just hand wave some loosely thought out concept and shit out some half-assed content thinking that so long as they can get popular talent on-board fans will swallow anything up and like it.

Anonymous Sun Sep 19 03:39:47 2021 No.10028646

>>10008707
>know English to entertain EOPs in normal streams
>have conversational(or higher) knowledge of Japanese to have semi-decent conversations in collabs with the JP branch
Is it really that hard? Ina is the minimum, Kiara would be pretty close to the ideal if not for her accent (barring her grating voice), Irys is a great example of how it should be done, and I don't really remember from Council but I think Sana and Bae know JP? Not sure. In any case it's really not that hard, it only takes a couple of year of practice. And guess what? Even if you join without this skill, you can spend one or two years of your streaming career (in a Japanese company mind you) studying Japanese on the side while also streaming. You can even make it a regular stream every week. I know, very innovative right? Never been done before.
Point is, all it takes is motivation to improve, but Ame, Gura and Calli have not improved at all in this past year from what I've seen, and there's no excuse you can give me to justify this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 03:44:24 2021 No.10028873 >>9953327 >Even Cthulhu stuff has nothing to do with the ocean. Imagine being this retarded

Anonymous Sun Sep 19 03:58:07 2021 No.10029516

>>10028646
I seriously think Calli is downplaying her Japanese knowledge, I dunno if she's just shy about speaking Japanese in front of native speakers or if she thinks her viewers like gaijin pronunciation or something but she is definitely capable of more than she lets on. She's hardly done Japanese-only streams so maybe she got spooked by their low viewership and tries to speak English as much as possible because she knows her chat doesn't speak Japanese.

Anonymous Sun Sep 19 04:30:47 2021 No.10031301

>>10028646
Interestingly though, doesn't the same logic apply to the members of HoloJP? They've had well over a year to watch EN rocket past them in popularity. They know it would be to their benefit to learn English to further appeal to their English-speaking audience, as well as to communicate more easily with the EN members. Yet most of them just sit back and wait to be talked to in Japanese. Only a couple of them, like Marine and Subaru, seem genuinely interested in learning English.

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