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9943675 No.9943675 [Reply] [Original]

Hi anons!

Im a starting vtuber and I'm a bit sad today. I've been streaming almost daily for a month and I can hardly get people to join my streams or follow. I'm always really happy when someone joins and interacts in chat tho! It's just that it feels quite lonely sometimes.
I have a cute model. My mama is very talented, and I worked very hard to rig it as good as I could.
I don't have any special talent, but I'm always trying to give my best. I use some time to put videos together when I'm not streaming too. I try to promote in different platforms but it doesn't seem to be of much help either.

I'm just wondering if I'm doing something wrong, and what do anons take in consideration when joining a stream for the first time?

Thanks for reading

>> No.9943730

>>9943675
dont use sayo for your faggotry

>> No.9943777

>>9943675
1. Design. If it sucks I don't even click
2. stream content. If it's singing I always click to see what kind of talent there is. If it's games I don't click unless it's something I rarely see vtubers play like say, Rimworld. If it's art I try to stay a while because I like artists of any skill.
3. voice. If it sucks I stop watching
4. streaming ability. If you're silent or complaining about viewer count I stop watching

>> No.9944391

>>9943777
I see! I think I'm good on 1 and 4. I can't be objective on 3 because people tend to dislike their own voices.
About 2, I'm still not confident enough to sing live, although I'm working on some covers that I'll put up soon. And the games I play are actually quite generic just because I feel more comfortable about my skills. I usually play the indie games offline. Maybe I should do it the other way around. Thanks anon.

>> No.9944512

I can't give any advice that isn't a worthless platitude or something you could just google yourself unless you post a VOD or something for me to watch first, anon.

>> No.9944709
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9944709

>>9943675
Ignore faggot OP, post Amemori

>> No.9944752

If you link yourself in here you'll at least get some groomers, so there's an audience for you.

>> No.9944790

>>9943675
You need memes and to spam yourself

>> No.9944839
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9944839

>>9944709

>> No.9944844

>>9943675
Start playing strategy games, you'll have 100 viewers in a couple weeks.

>> No.9944875

>>9944391
You need to not stream generic games, bigger people can get away with it because their established fanbase will watch most anything they do. If my oshi is streaming Apex I'll watch. If a random person is streaming Apex I will never care. Do something that makes someone want to oshi you or at least subscribe/follow

>> No.9944937

>>9944512
>>9944752
There is no point on posting that. I'm not looking for content analysis or trying to promote myself here but more like trying to understand what anons care about when watching a smaller/starting vtuber

>> No.9945183
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9945183

>>9944937
>She hates us
Anons, what did we do wrong?
We never even knew her name...

>> No.9945197

probably you have bad talking density
you need to talk more and engage with your superchat

>> No.9945229

>>9944844
I actually never got into strategy games. Tried Civ V but didn't really hook me. Any recommendations?
>>9944875
I usually play a lot of fps (not Apex) and pvp games in general. Offstream I play rpgs and visual novels/indie games.

>> No.9945332

>>9943675
You have been streaming just for a month. There are vtubers who have been streaming for years and are yet to break 50 viewers per stream. You just started, stay consistent, enjoy what you do, find a group to collab with, develop your talents, carve a niche for yourself.

>> No.9945334

>>9943675
Are you a woman?
If Yes, start playing grand strategy games
If No, use a voice changer
Also link your channel retard

>> No.9945370

>>9945229
hoi4 and eu4 are really discoverable on twitch.
City builders are also popular but not great for gaining a new audience.
You don't have to be good at them, just being a girl is enough of a unique trait with these types of games.

>> No.9945380

>>9943675
i believe in you!

>> No.9945425

>>9943675
Shill yourself hard, shill yourself everywhere. post shorts/TikTok/whatever else has the Zoomer's attention, chase all the trends

The Algorithm is a game, and you have to play to win

>> No.9945436

Try to join an agency, most indie will never make it.

>> No.9945454

>>9945436
>t. agency owner

>> No.9945492

>>9943777
link your channel so we can see what your missing, we will at least tell you if your good on #3

>> No.9945506

>>9943675
better get a rich husband or something because that's the only way you're gonna be able to play video games all day with no repercussions

>> No.9945596

>>9943675
1. Design should be either cute or sexy.
2. You should be funny or entertaining in another way.
3. Voice should be cute or sexy.
4. You need something to stand out from the many others who are competing with you. Even being a bit edgy or whatnot might be you clipped.
5. If you’re good enough, try to become part in of a company that puts your name out there for people to see.
6. Some luck is also beneficial.

>> No.9945604

>>9943675
Post channel

>> No.9945619

>>9944937
>Want more viewers
>Doesn't link their channel
What is this faggotry

>> No.9945693

Stay on youtube
Become menhara
Learn manipulation skills
Play slay the spire

>> No.9945714
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9945714

>>9945436
At least someone itt is trying to help OP. You should probably add that you can’t just waltz into an agency, you need to know people who can help you get ahead. The odds of you making it in the entertainment industry on your own are lower than your odds of winning the lottery but if you have already caught the entertainer bug you won’t understand what I’m trying to get across to you until after you fall flat on your face time after time after time again. Good luck

>> No.9945788

>>9945183
I don't! I'm just a bit afraid of the schizos, I don't want anons to be mean to me, that's all...
>>9945332
I know, I'm probably being ambitious because I compare to my roommate who got affiliate in a month (when it was still 100 followers required) without steaming daily and rarely using a facecam.
>>9945370
I have no clue what that is, but I'll check it out, thanks.
>>9945380
Thanks anon <3
>>9945425
I've considered the Tiktok one but like... I have no clue what to post there. Clips? Me singing? Ara ara? It just feels so cringe...
>>9945436
Tried twice. My audition videos didn't even get watched. Probably because they read in the form that I had no online presence yet.
>>9945506
I have a full time job. I don't want to be super successful. I just want to see a bit of growth to make up for the work I put on it and stop having some lonely streams

>> No.9945792

>>9945619
Manager for an agency false flagging for customer feedback.
If not a LARP, get a real job.

>> No.9945938

>>9945788
some of those schizos will post your threads, draw, donate, etc. Just dont have a bf or gf and say stupid shit. Any big company/chuuba started with loyal base who they tossed aside to get bigger

>> No.9945956

>>9945788
I'm checking the vtuber tag every hour on the hour until I find you.
I will find your stream
I will subscribe
I will donate
And there's nothing you can do to stop me

>> No.9946071

Hoo boy, the success of this larp thread is a slippery slope indeed. In the off chance you’re for real, go on fucking /asp/ instead of feeding schizos you want to avoid

>> No.9946083

>>9945792
>customer feedback.
Possibly.

>> No.9946439

>>9945714
I pretty much gave up on that. It looks very sugar coated on the outside, but I rather stay indie chuuba, or be under a smaller label that offers more freedom if I ever get the chance, which I doubt.
>>9945596
I think I'm somewhat in the middle...? I don't like over-acting. My design is on the "mysterious" side without being too revealing.
>>9945938
>>9945956
It just doesn't feel right being the one looking for attention /here/. If anons ever find me and enjoy my content, I'll be happy to have a family of schizos as long as they're not mean to me <3
>>9946071
I've been lurking /asp/ for a while. I made this thread because I wanted to ask anons individually

>> No.9946654

>>9946439
>If anons ever find me and enjoy my content, I'll be happy to have a family of schizos as long as they're not mean to me <3
Post your fucking channel then you dumb bitch because I want to SAVE.

>> No.9946742

>>9946654
That is totally the opposite of being mean anon...

>> No.9946809

>>9943675
hello, for me personally I think what's most important is how good the person is at making jokes on the spot or has anything interesting to say (saltydkdan for example), with a not very talktive chat you can use elements of the game to make entertaining remarks. something that might help get attention on youtube might be making short highlight videos for your streams, good luck on your future endeavors anon

>> No.9946851

asking for criticism but being intentionally vague on specifics and refusing to post your channel leads me to believe op is just throwing a pity party for themselves
the sort of thing an actual woman would do. op can you post your tits please?

>> No.9946982

You will never be a real anime girl - keep taking your estrogen, faggot.

>> No.9947003

>posts channel
>"She's seeking attention!"
>doesn't post channel
>"She's seeking attention!"

>> No.9947021

>no link
>no channel's name
Are you larping or just too scared of becoming the new /here/ vtuber?

>> No.9947037

>>9947003
She is attention seeking either way.
But by not posting her channel I can't give her attention.

>> No.9947072

>>9943675
I mostly watch corpo vtubers for their high production values content, group dynamics with genmates and the community around them.
But I do follow a couple of indies that average under a 100. Comparing them a bit:
>good singing
>good model
>good zatsu
I also gachikoi hard for them. I wouldn't watch them if I wasn't head over heels for them.

>> No.9947102

>>9945788
Depends on which groups you auditioned for. It's smart to start streaming anyways to build up experience and maybe you can aim for some of those small EN startups like Kawaii Pro or Prism Pro?

>> No.9947129

>No links
JUST FUCKING LET ME SAAAAVEEEEE

>> No.9947187

>>9947003
Everyone posting on this board, especially when asking a question or baiting, is seeking attention. I'm not sure if that makes it better or worse.

>> No.9947270

>another one
Bros... I can't save them all...

>> No.9947394

>>9946809
I see! Most people have different preferences it seems. Some anons enjoy calm streams, other lean for funny ones, others go for hyper, etc. I guess it's about branding yourself outside of the stream or video so people can actually *click* knowing what type of content they're looking for. I'm already working on stream highlights for YT, but dumbass me didn't store the vods and didn't know Twitch gets rid of them after two weeks, so I lost a lot of content.
>>9947003
This.
>>9947021
None. I genuinely just want to learn what anons care about when watching a new chuuba, and I might take anons opinions as advice for my own channel if it makes sense to me and feels comfortable to do so.
>>9947072
Understandable. I used to watch a bit of corpo chuubas but sometimes I coule sense the forced feeling when doing promotions or stuff they didn't want to do (like Mori and Kiara playing Shadowverse, you could tell they were really bored and uninvested)
>>9947102
I'll give it a try in the future, but yes, I want to build some streaming experience first. I learned a bit from my roommate but she was way more carefree and unprofessional about it, so I'm basically starting from nothing right now.

>> No.9947561

I don't care if you hate us or not, link the channel so I can SAVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

>> No.9947582

>>9947394
Your failing at exposure anon. Artemis might be basically dead but she did exposure right, her failure was at having a tranny voice and being boring. You want to grow your channel, post it for everyone everywhere. And you did ask for attention already, attention to answer your questions.

>> No.9947622
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9947622

if you're a m*le chuuba, i don't care

>> No.9947778

I think the deciding factor for me would be things like game choice and personality, as vague as those two are. It's really nice seeing someone incredibly enthusiastic at whatever topic it is they're talking about, sort of just draws you in.
I guess a big turn off would be basing yourself off of being vulgar, I enjoy jokes like that as much as the next guy, but it really is just the bottom of the barrel when it comes to humor - if that's your only shtick, you've lost me.

>> No.9947791

>>9947622
Well, he didn't reply to >>9945334
So it must be a male

>> No.9947815

Can you post your channel

>> No.9948078

>>9943675
Do you fill some niche no other vtuber fills?
If yes, you are good to go. Just drop some links in appropriate threads from time to time and wait for people to come for that niche content.
If not, you are fucked. The market is oversaturated, the only way you can achieve anything as indie is if you get extremely lucky.

>> No.9948138

>>9947622
The biggest factor for me is what games they play. If they play a niche game I like then I'll watch them, I don't care if it's a guy or a girl. The problem is most chuubas have such a shit taste in vidya
I bet OP, in addition to being a faggot, also plays shitty games

>> No.9948237

>>9943675
Make youtube video of your livestreams. I don't even watch livestreamers who are more entertaining than you, why should I watch you play a videogame for 4 hours? Now an 8-20 minute video I might click on and watch.

>> No.9948720

>>9948237
This is also a very big part, if you can't have your own clipfags be your own - better yet, use that jewtube shorts system or whatever they have since that seems to get picked up by the algorithm more.

>> No.9948755

>>9947582
I see. I tried posting it on some places, but I don't want to get too spammy.
It's a different kind of attention imo.
>>9947778
I guess the game choice drags you in and the personality makes you stay?
I can understand that point. I enjoy chill vtubers that are on the seiso side but not overly wholesome.
>>9948078
Being optimistic, I would say I'm quite good at fps. Not outstanding, but better than the average chuuba, at least on the ones I play. My singing is mediocre, my personality/voice is calm with some random outbursts, and I can be pretty silly out of nowhere, although I find that a weakness cause I do/say stuff without thinking a lot of times and embarrass myself.

>> No.9948820

>>9943675
The key to starting out a new channel is to play a game that's decently popular among gamers, but not popular to stream on twitch.
Also reach out to other vtubers who are a little bigger than you to collab with.

>> No.9948919

>>9943675
Link your account. Ill shoot a follow. I'll show up whenever I can for your streams. Cheer up lil indie.

>> No.9949034

>>9948755
So, just like any other vtuber in existence. Not interested, sorry.

>> No.9949886

>>9943675
I can see you've been ignoring the troll and schizo replies. If you can do that during your streams as well, I think you'll be doing pretty good even if you promote yourself /here/. Be brave post your link
I'm sure some anons will drop by at least out of curiosity

>> No.9949953

>wants to know what anons like
>won't link the channel so anons can watch

>> No.9950448

>>9943675
>I'm a bit sad today
opens thread with pity
>almost daily for a month
has no life
>can hardly get people to join my streams or follow
you're very likely boring as hell and playing some shitty generic games like apex or minecraft
>I'm always really happy when someone joins and interacts in chat
you basically suck viewers cocks so they won't leave
>it feels quite lonely sometimes
more pity
>I don't have any special talent
there you go, don't complain about not having viewers then
>put videos together when I'm not streaming
you really have no life huh
>I try to promote in different platforms
attentionwhore
>I'm just wondering if I'm doing something wrong
everything?
>what do anons take in consideration when joining a stream?
definitely not someone like you by the way you sound

there is your feedback

>> No.9950586

>>9950448
Her behavior in the thread corroborates nicely with your instincts, good fucking job. Let this be a good lesson of how not to conduct yourself when you want advice from people, actual aspiring tubas. Unless you want to be the next Kiara, anyway

>> No.9950661

>>9948755
Something to that effect, yeah. I certainly wouldn't go out of my way to browse and click on some random 2view's APEX/Minecraft/Amogus stream unless something really caught my attention.
As for personality, the only somewhat concrete thing I can say is don't be a basic bitch. You can have the shittest or most normalfag of tastes, but just be grounded in something. Don't just go with the flow or with whatever seems cool, be an actual person instead since that shit kind of shows. Though, all of that only matters if you're trying to be genuine. Actingmaxx is a very viable strat in the world of vtubing.

>> No.9951097

>>9948820
That seems hard to balance.
I tried reaching out to other vtubers genuinely expecting to make some friends with common interests, but a lot of them seem to only care about numbers.
>>9948919
It's just today. I'm usually pretty positive about my channel. I was just thinking about my roommate's old channel and the comparison with mine made me wonder what am I doing wrong. I'm feeling much better and encouraged after reading anons opinions. Thanks. <3
>>9950448
This is not feedback. This is just a bunch of mean assumptions made with a very negative mindset.
>>9950661
I try my best to stay in-character since my model has a specific lore, but I gave it a personality that is comfortable for me to stay in. I don't really act, I just try to stay active and talkative at all times.
For the games, it seems the key point here. I'm gonna try to find something less common yet relevant that I can still enjoy playing. Thanks anon.

>> No.9951288

>>9943675
why is this thread still alive you guys are giving too much attention to some LARPing tranny
just drop your link or you'll keep losing credibility you scumbag

>> No.9951298

>>9951097
Definitely. There's no problem with having mainstay games you regularly play/stream, but a bit of variation helps a shit ton for bringing in new viewers and keeping things fresh.

>> No.9951544

>>9945370
Can confirm. I watch vtubers that play niche games that I like regardless of skill. As long as they're remotely decent I'll watch.

There's a problem with that, though, I only come for the game, I don't stay. So not sure if it's the best tactic. I guess that if you stick to only one niche genre people will stay. But there's the risk of burning out.

>> No.9951771

>>9950448
Thanks for the feedback lol

>> No.9952387

>>9943675
Since you wont drop link can we at least get a voice clip so we can check if you actually have potential or you sound like a boring ass cunt?

>> No.9952563

>>9944937
>asks for actual advice without shilling herself
I kneel. I will give you couple advices for that.
1. Don't stream on YouTube.
I'm not watching Twitch, but I see that it is better for smaller creators. After year of watching popular vtubers I've never got any recommendations with small indie. On Twitch people are watching equally for games as for people.
2. Find niche that is not popular with vtubers, but would have quite following.
In my opinion currently Grand Strategy games are undersaturated (EU4, HOI4, Victoria 2, Civ5), but don't force yourself if you don't like this. Think what you enjoy and be creative with that. Minecraft, FPSes and rythm games are for big numbers to make bigger numbers. You can browse /v/ for recommendations by those hipster autists.
Also take opportunity as noone gives shit about you, so you can play heavily copyright restricted games like Personas.
3. Be actually likable.
You are fat nerd that is too pessimistic and misantropic to find work, so your only hope is to live of playing video games? Give up. If you weren't popular in school, you won't be on the internet. Even as a retard to laugh at. There is too many retards now.
4. Try to find content creator friends.
You will share knowledge and collab. They may also find you other, bigger friends and they may fill you in spot for their mass Among Us collab or something.
It is not some "sucking balls for views" as they are usually fun to be around and it is easy to form genuine friendships without ulterior motives only.

>> No.9952906

>>9943675
Assuming you're actually truthful then, I'm sorry about this but you're retarded. No vtubers who pander to 4chan has ever been successful. hell, some of them ended up being more and more deranged. Sorry, but we just suck like that.

>> No.9953037

>>9952906
this.
If you are decent, you would get 100 viewers at max like crown princess of /vt/ Beatani, but you won't get any further. Also people will either pump and dump you or will hate you over time, so you will lose motivation in both cases. Go normie route. Don't give any your info here

>> No.9953045

>>9943675
>nobody asking the actually important question here
Are you a girl (female)? If not, the mystery is solved.

>> No.9953360

>>9953037
go normie route and stay in 2 view hell? she said she comparing to her roommate who got 100 followers and got affiliated. That implies either she has about that amount or less...........

>> No.9953711

>>9953045

see:
>>9945370
>being a girl is a pretty unique trait when you play these games
reply >>9945788
>guess I'll check it out

OP should dispute the suggestion and come clean if they're not a girl, I assume.

>> No.9953760

>>9943675
If you were born with a penis you will not make it as a vtuber. No, not even if you get a cute girl for your live2d.

>> No.9953976

>>9945229
Play the shadowman remaster you whore

>> No.9954032

>>9953760
Unless you can make a perfect female voice impersonation and play the trap card, but I've only seen two people able to do that so far and neither of them where vtubers.

>> No.9955219

>>9952563
1. I think the same. I don't use Twitch beside for my own streams. I'm just posting stream highlights on YT for now and will do some extra content when I get the chance.
2. I realize that now after reading most anons replies. I though being good at more popular games is an advantage, but it makes sense that I won't even have the chance to show my skill if there is a thousand other chuubas playing the same.
3. I think I'm okay. I'm a hardworking person, slightly on the introvert side irl, but I really enjoy interacting with people that I share common interests with. That is basically my motive for streaming and becoming a vtuber. I'm very passionate about the things I enjoy. I don't know if that makes me likeable. I can't be objective on myself.
4. I tried and got a little bit discouraged after not even receiving a response by most of them, so I didn't feel like trying anymore.
>>9952906
>>9953037
Everyone's concept of success is different. I'll do my best and be happy with whatever point I reach. I just want to see a little bit of growth, that's about it. I would be really grateful if I had 100 viewers at max.
>>9953711
I checked them out and they're probably not the kind of games I would enjoy. Maybe other type of strategy games could be a better option.

>> No.9955377

>>9952563
>>9955219
I forgot to say, thanks for such an elaborate reply anon. I appreciate your advice and will keep #2 in mind for my future streams.

>> No.9955497

>>9943675
ask some friends to watch your stream? It would give some life to your chat and break that awkward barrier of being the only viewer and worst case scenario you'll just be spending some time hanging out with friends on vc
as other anons have said try to play games that not many other chuubas are playing but don't force yourself if you don't like them it'll show (grand strategy requires a very specific kind of autism) also shill yourself here but pretend to be a saviourfag that found a new 2view to save, beeing a chuuba that openly posts here is too strong of a schizo magnet. /vt/ is smaller than reddit or twitter but more willing to give small chuubas a chance

>> No.9955758

>>9955219
>Maybe other type of strategy games could be a better option.
rts tend to be easier to get into and have wider appeal than most other strategy games

>> No.9955860
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>> No.9955884

>>9943675
Take some advice from here but never advertise yourself as a /here/ chuuba unless you somehow think this is a mentally stable fanbase.

>> No.9956493

>>9955497
I have a couple friends that I really treasure. They join sometimes but can't always make it. My roommate doesn't want to introduce me to the rest of her friends because we prefer to be unrelated to each other.
It would feel quite dirty to promote myself that way. I've been a lurker /here/ for a while and you can easily notice when someone is falseflagging or trying to promote themselves under a fake anon pretense. I wouldn't feel comfortable doing that even if I knew there was no backlash.
>>9955758
Hmm since all anons seem to be pushing rts I might give them a try offstream first. I'm probably misjudging them because they look similar to Civ V.

>> No.9957354

>>9956493
Your roomate is a greaseball tranny with no friends until you prove us wrong
if youre actually a girl stop using /here/ terminology to look cool, post link or gtfo

>> No.9958368

>>9955884
She's struggling to get viewers, and it seems she doesn't hate menheras/schizos. It actually might be her best bet to promote herself as a /here/ if she really can't make it the normie route.

>> No.9959088

>>9943675

>Several people asks/wonder about OP's gender, never mentioned
>OP gives extensive responses to many anons, but ignores the gender question deliberately

I think the answer is pretty obvious.

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>>9959088
I've been ignoring messages with a negative connotation. Wondering is not a question. I'm a female. I though it was obvious and irrelevant to the topic.

Thank you everyone who shared your opinion and gave me some advice. I feel a bit more encouraged now. I'll take in consideration everything said and will start to put it in practice right away.

I didn't expect the thread to be ongoing for so long. I think it's about time to let it rest.

Thanks anons. <3

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>>9960190
Did she... Did she really just reveal her gender and then leave us?
After 7 hours of thread?
Just like that?

That's fucked up, anon chuuba...

>> No.9961069

>>9960190
It was nice meeting you. I hope I can stumble onto your stream some day. You seem like a nice and honest person with clear expectations.

I'll name you Sayori-chan for now, so if we ever meet again, please respond to that name so I know you're doing well.

>> No.9965758

>>9943675
Please, respond to one last thing before leaving. Are you gonna play Deltarune tonight/anytime soon on stream?

>> No.9966148

>>9965758
For the love of god just fucking let the thread die already. She's probably long gone and even if she's still reading it's very unlikely she'll reply after a farewell

>> No.9966615

>>9966148
Sounds like something Sayori-chan would say

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>>9960190
>Wondering is not a question

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