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9862533 No.9862533 [Reply] [Original]

Artia:
>"When they say they love you dyrbi" etc, vtubers lying about it
>Is backstabbing, lying menhera with no love for anybody and an absolute trainwreck
So, her insight is useless
Sio:
>Claims that popular vtubers are faking it and people don't see their bad side, among other slander
>Does so anonymously while spilling insider information out of menhera animosity. Literally destroyed the careers of multiple people many of which considered her a friend for the fuck of it
So, her insight is useless
And of course let's not forget the rest of the vtubers who claimed that those GFE chuuba who say that they love their fans are fake:
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>
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Yeah, that's fucking it, except(probably) for long forgotten literal who; nobody else has been retarded enough.
Even the other usual vtuber culprits of virtual reality checks don't apply
>Well-known fucking bitch(and bitch fucker) Gundou only hates gachikoi after one thought meeting her meant an offpako. Doesn't imply anything about other vtubers lying
>The Kagura Mea shitpost pasta is completely made-up, but you hopefully knew that already
>Basically ANY Niji

Meanwhile, those chuuba who claim to love their audience(Lamy, Rushia[and honestly all of Sankisei], Kanata, C*c*, Watame, etc)
>Stream or otherwise engage with the job or roommate stuff to a point where a boyfriend is effectively impossible to have
>Continuously engage with their fans on Twitter to the point of noticing, liking, retweeting, and being affected by literal who untagged tweets, as well as connecting it to their viewers in their chat and noticing minor changes to their account
>Remember their gachikoi's behavior on Twitter whenever they do something that catches their attention and bring it up, and sometimes even recognize real life information about their gachikoi
>Get mad when their gachikoi talk about romantic relationships and like the idea of gachikoi
>Continuously emphasize their relationship with a viewer as something like a girlfriend/idol/pararomantic/whatever the fuck, >Imply or be explicit about some sort of committed exclusive relationship
>Promise to always be be trustworthy for their fans and to never hurt them
And yet despite this, unlike the menhera listed at the top, none of them
>Have ever caused drama with or actively sabotaged a co-worker, on or off-stream
>Implied negativity towards the behavior of other women
>Taken care to always uplift other chuuba and their fans in general
>Always put incredible amounts of effort and money into passion projects for their viewers, often at an outright loss

If you're a faggot /here/ who jumps to pester people and preach their masturbatory self-assuredness, all you're doing is projecting your retarded, blinkered, and unfounded world view. Your socially Darwinist mindset, your over-obsession with conventional social dynamics, your confidence in the universality inherent power structures, your cynical misanthropy, etc aren't shit, faggot. They're a fantasy you built in your head, and the fact that the moment anybody so much as lays a finger on your carefully constructed perception of reality, that disgust you feel is proportional to just how fucked you'll be when the reality of the world comes to tear you a new one and leave you on your ass.

Anyway, I needed a creative writing project to kill half an hour, and I desperately, desperately want to have sex with Aqua until she is more puddle than woman and lives up to her name

>> No.9862648

cool story bro

>> No.9862657
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not bad for a first draft Anon. I'll take a mediocre anti-anti thread over a shit anti thread

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>> No.9862746

>>9862725
kekked

>> No.9862772

Mucho texto

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>>9862533
>I desperately, desperately want to have sex with Aqua until she is more puddle than woman and lives up to her name
Holy based Anon

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I know they arent real
I know they are playing a character
You can call that fake if you want but the hapiness I gain from their streams is not fake.

>> No.9862905

>>9862533
thanks for the feedback lol

>> No.9862921

>censored Coco's name
what does OP mean by this?

>> No.9862956

>>9862533
I haven't seen a single piece of good content from Pippa.

>> No.9862968

>>9862860
Well, as long as you're aware of it...

>> No.9863042

>>9862533
Based anon, you could do better by condensing the info more tho, it's too long to use as a pasta and people will probably ignore it because muncho texto

>> No.9863072

>>9862533
doesn't make her argument any less true

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>>9862533
So... you're saying my oshi that says she loves me really does love me? In a cosmic sort of way?

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Don't care, still wanna fuck Tia

>> No.9863183

>>9862533
tl;dr

>> No.9863240

>>9863183
he wants to fuck aqua

>> No.9863297

>>9863240
oh
>>9862533
based same

>> No.9863351

>>9863183
"not all vtubers are giving fake love or attention to their fans, contrary to what's said by the 2 b*tches on top

also Aqua should be fucked until she's more water than woman, to live up to her name"

t. not OP

>> No.9863370

>>9863183
>people who say cynical things about vtubers turn out to be bad people
>people who play into GFE and loving their audience are good people who lift others up
there you go

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>>9862533
dyrbi

>> No.9863473

on one hand I agree with OP, on the other hand, "they really love their fans" often is the basis troll unicorns use to justify themselves getting mad at & spreading hate toward vtubers with boyfriends.

>> No.9863649

>>9862533
based schizo op

>> No.9863734

>>9862533
Based schizo. On one hand, the first point you made - those chuubas who drag down others enjoyment of chuubas via cynacism are usually projecting their own awfulness - is pretty spot on. Chuubas who can't mind their own business are at best naive dramafags who will see that shit blow up in their own face, and at worst manipulative snakes.

At the same time, I'd still be cautious about how much stake you put in parasocial relationships:

https://youtu.be/5wn5SvedXRA

Also, meds. For your own sake.

>> No.9864304

>>9862533
>So, her insight is useless
For once, OP was not an utter faggot, except for this point. I don't think people listened to Artia for the "insight." She gave food for thought. Debatably, she encouraged people to think more critically of the things chuubas say, not to immediately dismiss every single thing they say as a lie.
>If you're a faggot /here/ who jumps to pester people and preach their masturbatory self-assuredness, all you're doing is projecting your retarded, blinkered, and unfounded world view
I think this is why people bailed out on Hana as well after the "vtubers are just virtual e-girls" comment. Made herself look like she thought she said something deeply-profound or like she misunderstood why people preferred vtubers.
>>9863072
You're right, but unfortunately I now associate the phrase DYRBI with people like Beatani who spectacularly fail to transmit Artia's sentiment as well, if not fail to understand it at all.

>> No.9864474

>>9862533
i want to drink agua

>> No.9864534

>>9862533
k

>> No.9864760

>>9863734
He says we're not friends then he says we're like lovers. Astel?

>> No.9865042

>>9863142
I miss her and Coco. Wish they would make up and collab one day.

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>>9862533

>> No.9866022

>>9864760
Most of Astel's fanbase are teen boys and IIRC Astel has said he's into shota....

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holy schizophrenia

>> No.9866301

>>9862533
Why do Artia's eyes get further apart from each other every time I look at her?

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>>9862533

>> No.9866371

>>9862860
Same kinda. I just like the streams and the goofy shit some of the girls say and do. How so many anons fall into the whole gfe I’ll never understand. I just take the entertainment for what it is.

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>>9862533
>And of course let's not forget the rest of the vtubers who claimed that those GFE chuuba who say that they love their fans are fake:
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Holy Roman Empire?

>> No.9867180

>>9862533
Not reading all that. Artia was projecting. She hated her fans.

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>>9862533
I understand and thank you for sharing this with us. Now open wide

>> No.9868569

>>9863072
Her argument isn't true, tho
You can believe one of three things:
>A chuuba that does this is lying through her teeth
>It's a LARP and you're supposed to be in on it
>It's real
So, if you're an anti, you would say that #1 is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. But while I admit that there are exploitative bastards out there, anybody who claims that as a constant's got nothing worth listening to, and should seek therapy for showing symptoms of an anti-social disorder.

So we get to #2. Problem is, anybody who has watched their oshi for long enough(unless their oshi is a consummate professional, and even then) will be be able to tell when the streamer enters "serious mode"
Serious mode isn't just when tbey're dour/grim/curt. It is any moment where the chuuba either intentionally or unintentionally lets their often already flimsy mask drop. When this is intentional, it's often to convey information or promote a certain behaviour- herding chat is an obvious one, but anecdotes and beliefs will also occasionally slip through, too. Emotions. Fears. Passions. Reactions, and overreaction.
Vtubing isn't wrestling and very little of is truly kayfabe. People who say it is, need to try being a streamer(untrained, by the way) for multiple hours a day, every day of the week, every week.
You cannot, will not, should not be a living embodiment of your kayfabe, and no vtuber is. The "mask" rapidly wears away, becoming thin or even non-existant in almost all cases. So much so that it gets to the point where the supposed kayfabe people gush about exists more as a light verbal and behavioral filter- not a mask- that keeps the stream positive and controversy at bay.

It's funny, because for all the melodrama over characters and lore, they're hardly ever relevant to what the chuuba is ACTUALLY doing- their best. The 'kayfabe' of vtubers basically amounts to a person putting their best face forward as much as they can. But it is THEIR face.

But serious mode breaks past even that flimsy facade.
Pekora still cries, because the only person she couldn't hide her love and desire to make her fans happy was from herself, and couldn't handle the pain of feeling as if she failed them.
Rushia still sends out those membership posts, wishing into the night with tears in her eyes, worried about what she'll never have have and about what she does but is scared of losing.
Noel still cries out into the online void of her RM's Twitter for a connection so that she isn't alone with her heartbreak.
Lamy still reels with loneliness and guilt, and the insecurity that comes with it.
And so on, and on, and on.

That build-up was all for this: if she's not a liar, and she claims to earnestly love her chat in those moments where the mask has dropped, then she no longer fits neither #1 nor #2. There is only one proper interpretation left.

>> No.9868618

>>9863734
But that's Astel, speaking for Astel, anon
And that's fine
But one persons opinions, preferences, and experiences don't define the rest of the world

>> No.9868623

>>9862533
Funny, considering Artia was one of the only chuubas I ever thought genuinely had a connection with her fans

>> No.9868661

>>9868623
How did that work out for her?

>> No.9868692

>>9863042
I will condense it if I care enough to in the morning(1% chance)
I'm not DM'ing anymore for a while so I'd normally be using this to write mindfuck campaign arcs powered by unmedicated schizophrenia but for now it'll be on this board instead

>> No.9868710

>>9868569
Normal chuubas love their fans. The ones who claim it's fake are just projecting. They don't like their fans so they can't understand how others could.

>> No.9868780

>>9868661
Was genuinely the most fun I've had watching a hololive chuuba, no one else compares in terms of fan interaction.

>> No.9868822

>>9862533
Who is even Sio and who are the people she fucked over?

>> No.9868891

None of them love you or their fans, anon. It is true that they have varying levels of appreciation towards their viewers, but calling that love would be like saying apple loves their customers. They might like a couple viewers, specially content creators, but it'll hardly be (You).
What I do know if that they absolutely hate their most devoted schizo fans due to how pathetic they act. They can't say this, however, since that's where most of the money comes from.

>> No.9868967

>>9862533
That was an interesting read. Really shit out.

>> No.9868984

>>9863473
Usually this only is ever a problem with vtubers who aren't explicit about telling unicorns to fuck off, though
A lot of chuuba, and hell streamers in general, are both aware of the nature of the gray area around relationships. They know that getting viewers to develop a parasocial relationship with them is profitable. They know that if it can be turned para-romantic by appearing single and never outright scaring away gachikoi(and often encouraging them with typical pararomantic content- "I love you" being the obvious one), they can make even MORE money.
They also know that the reason it will make them more money is because it involves people with a relatively fragile emotional state trusting them to be honest.

If you value money over the emotional welfare(yes, even of strangers) to the point where you are explicitly aware that the actions you take lure others to depend on you for the sake of hurting them, you have money, but you don't have a moral high ground
Contrary to retarded opinion, if the player is a faggot, you should hate the player(and not necessarily the game)
I don't see all that many unicorns swarming Gundou or Choco, for example. That's for a very obvious reason

tldr play with others lives only if you're ready to get yours played with

>> No.9869079

>>9863734
I wouldn't trust anything Astel says...he's a trickster/playboy and a bit of a menhera.

>> No.9869081

>>9862533
They're speaking from ther own experience, who would've guessed. Watch the original Artia clip, she's such an insufferable bitch. I was already hating her before the incident, don't know why anons were obsessed with that shit at the time

>> No.9869208

>>9869081
Twitch flags obsessed with idiot that speaks twitch lingo. That's it.

>> No.9869262

>>9868623
How much of that connection was actual connection, and how much of it waz it you thinking that you've found somebody who "tells it like it is" and is genuine?
Because here's the real truth anon, she wasn't anymore "honest" than any other holo. She wasn't more grounded, or down to earth, or realistic, or genuine. You believing she was because her views on the nature of the world aligned with yours is, frankly, your problem to get over.

>> No.9869290

>>9866301
Because she's an insect

>> No.9869384

Not sure if this guy is a troll or a real Zhang schizo gachikoi.

>> No.9869388

>>9868710
Agreed and also thank you I think you just wrote my TLDR for me

>> No.9869985

>>9869262
>She wasn't more grounded, or down to earth, or realistic, or genuine. You believing she was because her views on the nature of the world aligned with yours is, frankly, your problem to get over.
Lmao faggot, I watched her because I thought she was funny. I don't give a shit about her 'views on the nature of the world'..

>> No.9870381

>>9862533
I hate Artia just as much as you do, but dam do you need to take your meds.

>> No.9870465

>>9869985
Your funny vtuber was a traitorous heartless piece of shit
Also, zoom zoom faggot

>> No.9870511

>>9870381
I will NEVER take my meds, I am more powerful with each passing day. I spoke latin earlier this week out of nowhere and I've never even tried learning latin

>> No.9872201

>>9862533
I can't believe I actually read all that... Not even mad, good shit

>I desperately, desperately want to have sex with Aqua until she is more puddle than woman and lives up to her name
BASED

>> No.9872248

>>9862533
Based fuck Pippa she’s retarded.
I’m saying this as a Pippa fan btw.

>> No.9872812

>>9868984
Choco telling gachikoi to fuck off is news to me, based as hell. I'm too newfag to even witness the birth of Gen 4, missed it just barely by a few months.

>> No.9872884

>>9862533
This happens because any streamer going dyrbi is just presenting herself as "not like the other girls tee-hee" which is a massive red flag. They try to present everything else as fake but their content as honest, so of course they turn out to be bitches.

>> No.9873100

>>9862956
She did that audition review, which was terrible but a fun idea.
I'd love to see that handled by Char and Urara, but I know they'd never do it because it probably exposes too much if their decision making process.

>> No.9873223

>>9868569
>You cannot, will not, should not be a living embodiment of your kayfabe, and no vtuber is
Debidebi...

>> No.9873303

>>9873223
>>9868569
Kongou..

>> No.9873463

>>9862533
Fuck you I still beleeb

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>>9862533
>"When they say they love you dyrbi"
Everytime I hear this I just assume they want the gachikoi money without putting the effort. You can't have your cake and eat it too, bitch.

>> No.9873648

>>9868569
>You can believe one of three things:
Yes, but you can also believe other things, or a mix of the three. Your argument is built on a false premise.

>> No.9874221

>>9862956
Build a Bear stream was great even if only for the deep build a bear community drama infodump that made /vt/ seem completely sane and reasonable. No matter how bad schizos have been here, no one has ever pulled a gun out on another chuuba fan as far as I'm aware.

>> No.9874265

>>9862533
>The Kagura Mea shitpost pasta
Post this

>> No.9874828

https://streamable.com/dr2i2a

>> No.9874921

>>9873648
>Yes, but you can also believe other things,
Considering those options represent all possible combinations possible of "a vtuber tells you she loves you, but is either telling the truth or isn't"
>or a mix of the three
Stop speaking like a snarky faggot and express your thoughts clearly instead of hiding behind contrarianism and syntactic diarrhea. "She means it when she says she loves you pararomantically" and "she doesn't mean it when she says she love you pararomantically" contradict one another. #2 is honestly not even necessary but I included it anyway, but it's effectively the same as #1, the major difference being intent and reception. #1 and #2 cannot be mixed because the two forms of intent (manipulation vs co-operative participation) necessarily contradict one another. #3 contradicts #1 as mentioned and through this contradicts #2

I'm genuinely curious to hear other reasons besides unironic mental illness

>> No.9875072

>>9868891
This all feels like projection
It also implies that they're all awful enough to manipulate vulnerable people into harming themselves for material gain through lies and abuse of trust and emotional connection

I think it's completely reasonable that somebody who has such a low opinion of them to be considered an anti. Especially when many of them go out of their way explicitly try and dispel such insinuations.

>> No.9875430

>>9872884
While true to an extent, this particular thing has a far worse track record than similar behaviours
For example, many girls have pulled a "not like the other girls" 'honesty' skit around cutesy voices. From Aqua to Matsuri.

I think it takes a special level of piece of shit to not just cast aspersions towards behavior, but also try and undermine and define the emotions of a massive group of people. Saying "they fake voices to sound cuter" is ragging on a fake action. Saying "they dont mean it when they say they love you" is a person deciding for another person that not only is their action fake, but the feelings behind it too.

>> No.9875813

She loves your money, not you.
If you think love can exist between people who have never met in real life, you are beyond delusional.

>> No.9876070

>>9862533
Watame's chat is also very comfy.

>people repeating "san", "membersheep" "nice sc" like a chant

It's like a wooly hivemind.

>> No.9876168

>>9875072
>It also implies that they're all awful enough to manipulate vulnerable people into harming themselves for material gain through lies and abuse of trust and emotional connection
They are WOMEN, manipulating desperate men is their favorite sport.

>> No.9876194

>>9875813
Parasocial relationships can happen in both directions.

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>>9862533
>Writting a wall of text just because you are desperate to validate your belief in kayfabe.
KWADG (Kek What A Delusional Gachikoi)

>> No.9877837

>>9872812
I don't really think she told them directly to fuck off, she's just probably the only holo who doesn't hide the fact she's had dicks inside of her

>> No.9877946

>>9862533
The way this is formatted and edited utterly atrocious.

>> No.9878191

>>9876375
>reddit
Funny because Reddit is exactly where all these anti-gachikoi posters came from
Like you, newfag

>> No.9878280

>>9875813
>If you think love can exist between people who have never met in real life, you are beyond delusional.
>He unironically believes his experiences have informed him of all possible circumstances that could ever possibly occur
What's it like being retarded anon, I wouldn't know so I'm curious

>> No.9878314

>>9876168
So you are an anti, then?

>> No.9878598

>>9865042
This would be fucking kino. The solution to the most major problem of the vtubing industry: the conflict between East and West. Through this Instrumentality shall we realise true Reconciliation and Unity. Only then shall /vt/ be finally purged of the /pol/ack disease.

>> No.9878856

The truth is nobody loves fat neckbeard incels, some just hide it better than others. Women are actively disgusted by low value men. The only thing going through these vtubers heads while they're streaming is the same thought as prostitutes, they're just thinking about the money

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>>9862533
The fact of the matter is, DRYBdorks are just using vtubers to deal with their own issues and vtubers, try as their might, can only do so much. Watame is a sweet sheep, but there is no way she could ever convince the schizo that every woman isn't out to get him. It all comes down to the dork wanting to work on changing themselves, but most would rather just shitpost instead. It's easy to sympathize for them, but there is really nothing much that can be done about people who genuinely believe they are in a relationship with a vtuber.

>> No.9881279

>>9868569
>>9862533
take your meds holy shit get some help

>> No.9881924

>>9878314
Am I not anti ya pinhead, I enjoy some vtubers or else I wouldn´t be here.
But I am delusional enough to worked into believing their act, just like how I can enjoy wrestling knowing it´s fake, or watch Blade Runner without thinking Ryan Gosling is a replicant.

>> No.9882517

>>9862533
Can Pippa stop being such a holofag? She has a better shot of collabing with nijien than holoen.

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>>9862533
i believe, and to be honest that's all that matters.

>> No.9882815

>>9863183
Vtubers are mentally ill women who hide just enough of their menhera to get you to love them and get your money

>> No.9883487

>>9881924
Comparing vtubing to movie acting is utterly retarded. You're clearly a little too concerned with wanting to label everything about them as illegitimate.

>> No.9885108

>>9878280
Your logic could be used to refute anything that you don't want to hear. Stay in your own fantasyland, then.

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>>9862533
Awful lotta words for a chuckfucker

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>> No.9889377

>>9870465
I enjoyed the streamer, not the human behind it

>> No.9890441

>>9875072
>projection
Likely yes, and despite this they had tens of thousands to even hundreds of thousands of fans who were none the wiser for months to even years. Honestly makes the point stronger than anything else

>> No.9892360

>>9882815
so am i, so what

>> No.9893962

>>9881279
I will NEVER take my meds
>>9878856
I am not fat, a neckbeard, or even a virgin, but even if I was I wouldn't be after I find you and shove my fat cock in your bratty little asshole you anti faggot

>> No.9894067

>>9881924
If you're explicitly outspoken about vtubers being liars when they try to earnestly convey certain information because they want their fans to believe it is true, you ARE an anti.

You don't hate the image you have of them, sure, but you do not accept the reality of their circumstances or respect their desires. Strictly speaking, that's anti behavior.

>> No.9894106

>>9885108
Well no, not particularly. It can be applied to vtubers, and especially vtuber idols, because of how this type of parasocial relationship has often shaken out among idol groups in Japan.

>> No.9894143

>>9862860
>I know they are playing a character
Kinda? They're largely themselves.

>> No.9894167
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>>9862533
I'm not reading all that, but Pippa cute.

>> No.9894511

>>9862533
>Stream or otherwise engage with the job or roommate stuff to a point where a boyfriend is effectively impossible to have
More like is impossible to be their main focus in life. Some women want to become brides/mothers first and everything else second. A lot of V-Tubers aren't like that. People like Watame are too ambitious and engaged in their work to treat a partner as their main focus in life.

They could still have boyfriends. Either way I don't really care. I don't get mad at male streamers I watch for having girlfriends. Sometimes I even watch those girlfriends. So why would I get mad at Watame or the like for having someone to hug? Loneliness sucks. Watame goes out of her way to make me and many others happy, both in streams, songs, and emotional vulnerability she exposes in streams talking about her life.
I think anyone upset by the idea of a boyfriend should probably stop watching. There are healthy and unhealthy ways to consume and engage with things. Being upset about someone you care about being happy, like your father, uncle, mother, sister, brother, friend, etc, isn't healthy.

Even if you actually knew her in real life my advice would be the same; if seeing her with someone makes you upset you shouldn't know her any longer.

Only exception to this is teenagers. At that age you might be able to want to fuck any woman you come across, so it's fine to be upset over dumb shit like a boyfriend. But don't forget you're being childish.

>> No.9896038

>>9894511
No amount of perfidious armchair faggotry and ad-hoc shitposts about maturity make this a valid take
>I think anyone upset by the idea of a boyfriend should probably stop watching. There are healthy and unhealthy ways to consume and engage with things. Being upset about someone you care about being happy, like your father, uncle, mother, sister, brother, friend, etc, isn't healthy.
The belief that the line for what's healthy is only crossed when your relationship begins to(potentially) affect the streamer instead of yourself is toxic in it's own right, anon, you realize that right?
There's plenty of damage you can get from any parasocial relationship. Whether they're a father figure, like a sister, or w/e.

I often find that people like you have this presumption going on in their heads that somehow when the parasocial turns pararomantic, or when the relationship involves expectations for the parasocial "target" , that it's somehow less dangerous or damaging.
The problem is that that is a lukewarm lie. It has no foundation, it's entire existence hinges upon a bizarre societal attitude many have overall(but particularly in the west) where the nature of desire, human connection, hierarchy, and reciprocity clash into an incomprehensibly obtuse network of emotion and behavior; and yet still you will have reductive bullshit that try to marginalize it, ironically an emergent property of that same chaotic societal patchwork, but no more valid than any other perspective, because i99% of the time t's simply a reflection of the circumstances of the person speaking and not something of cogent substance

>> No.9897231

>>9896038
>There's plenty of damage you can get from any parasocial relationship. Whether they're a father figure, like a sister, or w/e.
And? I'm focusing on the girlfriend fixation.
It's amazing how my post got so under your skin that you freaked out at me acting like I'm insane for not writing a book about out every negative relationship with v-tubers, as if that changes a single thing I said. It's such an insane strawman you've constructed in your head to cope with what I said, to the point you feel the need to respond to me with your insane fantasies based on nothing but your own conjecture about intent beyond what's written.

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