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>> No.9857886

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>> No.9857905

>>9827832
Actual previous thread

>> No.9857944

>>9857865
ccv + sc
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

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Home sweet home

>> No.9858403

which holo gets the least views usually? i found some holostar videos that were days old with like under 10k views i believe. do these guys only get like 100 viewers in their live streams?

>> No.9858562

>>9858403
Nah most are around 400-600. Only Roberu and Astel average above 1k

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SCs

>> No.9859124

>>9858662
Oh cool, spotting a taiwan vtuber in no.11

>> No.9859470

>>9855011
>Why is it lower than this regular karaoke from 3 months ago? https://holo.poi.cat/stream/M_oGgV7nmko
That was actually her birthday karaoke which I believe was buffed due to it

>> No.9860351

>>9859470
Don't reply to a retard. He looked only at the numbers, not the context on how the stream got the numbers.

>> No.9860956

So, how is NijiEN's schedule compared to EN 2? Do they need to stream daily? EN2's schedule is on point with the 3 streams per week thing, they took too many breaks in the week at least 2 or 3 days off.

>> No.9861293

>>9860956
Pretty busy, usually only 1 day break.
>>9858662
Anyone can give context to this? Red rushia topped yesterday as well

>> No.9861317

>>9859470
Why would you respond to bait a thread ago lmao

>> No.9861401

>>9861293
>Red rushia
Birthday

>> No.9861758
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>> No.9861816

>>9861758
Mori is going to incline once someone else logs in to help her.
Pays to be bad at minecraft lol

>> No.9861991

>>9861758
>Bae:Stop playing debuff games pls
>Mori:inclining
>Pomu:declining
>Petra:She should keep doing piano streams

>> No.9862038

>>9861816
I guess Calli might have a good chance to have better numbers than Gura's 10hr DMC3 marathon consider this is minecraft. Not sure about other marathons in Myth but I guess Calli's 1M subscriber marathon did the best in numbers.

>> No.9862077

>>9861991
Petra will become en/niji Luna

>> No.9862171

>>9862077
Those instrument streams are the only Luna streams I watch.
Makes for good background noise.

>> No.9862929

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt0AlaqDyr4
Literally can't stop losing

>> No.9862989

>>9862929
Isn't Hayato the local card game nerd? Why isn't he invited for these sort of collabs?

>> No.9863036

>>9862171
But Luna is good background noise

>> No.9863065

>>9862929
Reminds me of Mori's shadowverse arc.

>> No.9863084

>>9862929
>Magic the gathering JP
>less than 20k subs
Except for Yashiro, Kuzuha is a goliath compared to these other guests LMFAO

>> No.9863216

>>9861991
Bae will NEVER stop debuffing

>> No.9863322

>>9862989
They likely went for Kuzuha for the numbers, because most of the VOD views on that channel are lower than his CCV. They probably hope his fans will tune in just to watch him.

Except for this VOD, but it's a fucking youtube ad (says CM in the title anyways).
>8 mil views
>1.3k likes
>160 comments
Sounds legit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulI6IHoJ1_Y

>> No.9863475

>>9862929
They just slap Kuzuha onto everything and see what works kek

>> No.9863784

>>9862989
Hayato is busy lately with IRL work and anyway his thing is duel monsters.
>>9863322
Every Niji there has played MTG as well as ranked.

>> No.9863805

>>9863475
Tbf, it does work lol.
If he wasn't in that pokemon unite tournament, they would've had 40-50k less viewers for the event.

>> No.9863807

when will kuzuha stop doing this pussy strat of spamming collabs

>> No.9863957

>>9863784
Pretty sure I remember him playing MTGA with Chaika and Yashiro

>> No.9863959

>>9863784
>Every Niji there has played MTG as well as ranked.
Technically true, but it's been 2 years since Kuzuha has streamed it and looking at his numbers for these VODs, he was still a larvae.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kmqC04rWKE

>> No.9863983

>>9861991
>>Pomu:declining
she is at 1.8k now, seems pretty usual for her minecraft when taking into account that this stream is several hours later than her usual maikura streams

>> No.9864205

Nice views for Mori considering it's essentially been solo MC for 2 hours

>> No.9864266
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Rrat with her shit sc again, kek. This is what simping for a shart does to you.

>> No.9864489

>>9864205
isnt sub2k the norme for her most of the time even with MC.Doesn't help she has no one to play with most of the time so MC isnt really a buff game for them.
>>9861991
bae viewership is scattered across timeznes she gets 5k in all of them. I wonder what solo MC would be for her. right now she is against mori MC endurance which is an event itself for her.

>> No.9864502

>>9864266
Mori literally simps for Charlie and collabs with more dudes than anyone in HoloEN

>> No.9864588

>>9864489
firs reply this was for >>9863983

>> No.9864650

>>9864266
Rrat doesn't appeal to gachis, has nothing to do with the homos.
It doesn't help she's an EN who speaks Japanese half the time and streams during JP/SEA hours.

>> No.9864663 [DELETED] 

>>9864502
Not even remotely comparable. She's literally a schizo stan for Roberu if you read up on her past life.

>> No.9864803

>>9864650
she hasnt done anything huge for SC yet her gamign streams are pretty much on par with her jp senpais.

>> No.9866116 [DELETED] 

>>9864663
How? She literally didn’t know anything about vtubers before joining Hololive

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>>9858341

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9866168

Explain

>> No.9866173

>>9863805
>If he wasn't in that pokemon unite tournament, they would've had 40-50k less viewers for the event
Well yeah, he's one of the people who had a moba background and is competent enough to give a good show of skills in the game. Pokemon or ML is child's play compared to Dota or LoL.

>> No.9866235

>>9866168
is been 3 hours

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>>9866168
Kneel

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Oh yeah this is gonna be like that viewership funneling strat from Kanae instead of Kuzuha. I'll stand by my words that it can't reach 12k (Irys's numbers yesterday), nor she will be getting any of the fans kanae have later on

>> No.9866479 [DELETED] 

>>9864663
Mori literally SCed Roberu, popped in his chat multiple times and had him visit her once, and she also had Rikka sing for her birthday on stream and she aslo shilled them recently, so yeah there's something wrong with Ballz but it's definitely not Robe-chan

>> No.9866662 [DELETED] 

>>9866479
>Something wrong with baelz
Definitely the timezones seriously, emu and kiwi alone can't sustain her and sana, not when they already have JP/ID oshi.

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9866670

>be shart
>get no viewers
Such is life. They're making Hajime look good now after his ARK numbers.

>> No.9866691

>>9864803
Whoever in Cover thought she was a good pick needs to get kicked in the ass honestly. There's always a Kiara or Anya in every gen after gen 5. It doesn't help that she's playing shitty kusoges like them too. They don't need another fluent JP speaker on board, just get a good variety streamer/singer and pay for their Japanese lessons.

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9866707

Oh boy here we go again

>> No.9866720 [DELETED] 

>>9866479
>and had him visit her once
Happened at least twice, actually. Once even recently. Not to mention she interacts with homos on Twitter regularly. Honestly seeing 5ch still be completely baffled by Mori's earnings since it goes against all their 'rules' about which Holos get SC is always pretty funny.

>> No.9866837 [DELETED] 

>>9866662
they shifting from one timezone to the other extrem one is really harmful. it is just splitting her thier viewerbase.

>> No.9867021

>>9866720
Cover and JP fans need to realize that ENs are not idols, and people overseas are fine with male-female interactions as long as it doesn't cross the line of being shipped to one another or being Tee Tee on stream together. Just business/collab partners. That's why TT and Gigguk collab was mostly fine/ Ollie and Connor are seen as apex partners.

HolostarsEN could be a success if they limit collabs with the girls once or twice every month or make a quizshow with the whole EN group twice a year. The guys just needs to understand that their focus are to get female fans/be male streamers, not play with the girls. NijiEN numbers from them is okay.

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>>9866358
I KNEEL

>> No.9867080

>>9866406
>7PM
I knew it was SEA posters hanging out in this thread

>> No.9867133

>>9867080
Well of course, it'd be too early for you westernfags to watch JP streams to hold a discussion here.

>> No.9867137

>>9866707
Again? So it's not the whole time with people pretending they know what success/failure means in vtuber community with their surface stats?

>> No.9867182

>>9863475
To be fair, forced collabs are part of being a corpo vtuber. Just look at Gura and Umisea. I doubt that was her brainchild.

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September median views
>Marine 31,886
>Pekora 30,290
>Gura 29,116
>Kuzuha 23,182
KING BTFO

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HoloJP median views
x is number of streams
y is ccv

>> No.9867473

>>9867356
nijiKEKS

>> No.9867513

>>9867182
Umisea and the KuzuhaMTG slapping are different. Umisea feels like a forced family group within the company, a joint between 2 popular vtubers from EN and JP. The other is slapping Kuzuha into any game sponsorships they could find. It's like the 6th or 7th game sponsorship Kuzuha is doing in these past two months iirc. Powerpros, Valorant, r6s, pokerchase, alchemy stars, minecraft, now MTG etc.

>> No.9867609

>>9867513
If you want to get into family dynamics Yashiro is literally Kuzuha's virtual dad.

>> No.9867617

>>9867513
Don't be so worried about Kuzuha having so many sponsorships. I'm sure he's being paid well for his time.

>> No.9867836

>>9867356
>median
Fuck off with this shit metric. He's only low in that because the majority of his streams were R6S games so far:
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCSFCh5NL4qXrAy9u-u2lX3g
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCoSrY_IQQVpmIRZ9Xf-y93g
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UC1DCedRgGHBdm81E1llLhOQ
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCCzUftO8KOVkV4wQG1vkUvg
His average is only lower than Pekora's.

>> No.9867890

>>9867836
>Says median is a shit metric
>Uses playboard's average viewers unironically
Holy shit, how new?

>> No.9867975

>>9867890
It's for the last 15 streams so there should be no problem.

>> No.9867996

>>9867836
Nijicope

>> No.9868087

>>9867836
>He's only low in that because the majority of his streams were R6S games so far
Yes, that's how median works.
It's the most fair metric because it disregards the outliers to get the most "normal" number a vtuber gets. When he streams more Apex, it'll balance out his R6S streams.

>>9867975
None of these 4 have streamed 15 times in September so the data is contaminated with August data and Playboard is notorious for missing streams.

>> No.9868137

>>9867890
Kuzuniggers don't actually care about how accurate the numbers are, they just care about beating the other side. These are the same people who tried to compare Irys's earnings to all of nijien people N order to "prove" that hololive is a failure. If they could they would create their own website that adds an extra 100k to Kuzuha's peak numbers just so they can claim victory, and I wish I was joking about that.

>> No.9868224

>>9868137
I mean, the original post is literally by a tribalnigger saying "BTFO King" so fuck him too.
Stick to talking about the numbers.

>> No.9868535

https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/9784011/#q9786022
According to this Kuzuha had a 30k average yesterday and Pekora 34.9k average, but he got 35k today and Pekora only 23k, so it should've changed a bit. Who gives a fuck about median.

>> No.9868585

>>9868137
>>9868535
I told ya, I wish I was fucking joking

>> No.9868603

>third wire: touched
>schizo: triggered
>timeloop: reset

>> No.9868612

>>9868535
Median is better retard. Both of them had 60-69k streams this month so it's fair.

>> No.9868642

>>9868585
damn that was fast, sometimes i wish they just pretend to be retarded...

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>>9868612
No it's not. You're cucking him with median on purpose because you know a huge part of his numbers come from his tourneys, so fuck off with trying to make your rabbit whore look better than what she actually is. She's going to get mogged again by the end of the month in total views, watch time and average CCV.

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9868668

>Who gives a fuck about median.
I don’t taste a cope/seethe combo this delicious since the days of kneeling

>> No.9868699

>>9867438
what the hell, fubuki's average is near 10k? I swear everytime I see her streaming it's down at like 5k. Then again, those are usually NA hours.

>> No.9868718

Ah good lord he's serious with this shit isn't he...

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>>9867438

>> No.9868762

>>9868699
Median, which smooths out the highs AND the lows. Fubuki streams a lot, so for every 'debuff' stream she has, it's balanced by a non debuff one if she's not on an absolute bender for a bad game like Shinchan.

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Do YOU know the difference between mean, median, and mode without looking it up, /#/?

>> No.9868829

>>9868718
There have been people who seriously tried to argue that irys is a failure because she failed to earn more money in a month than six people did in three, so yes.

>> No.9868833

>>9867438
SEPTEMBER PEAK CCV MEDIAN
>35140 median :: ayame (3 streams)
>31866 median :: marine (9 streams)
>30290 median :: pekora (13 streams)
>20673 median :: gura (8 streams)
>18713 median :: miko (14 streams)
>18191 median :: subaru (13 streams)
>16582 median :: suisei (5 streams)
>16217 median :: korone (9 streams)
>15228 median :: rushia (8 streams)
>13697 median :: botan (13 streams)
>13658 median :: aqua (8 streams)
>13388 median :: shion (5 streams)
>11240 median :: kanata (14 streams)
>10657 median :: mumei (11 streams)
>10173 median :: okayu (11 streams)
>10123 median :: ouro (9 streams)
>10042 median :: noel (7 streams)
>9755 median :: ceres (13 streams)
>9136 median :: mio (9 streams)
>8795 median :: fubuki (24 streams)
>8716 median :: inanis (10 streams)
>8142 median :: flare (15 streams)
>8102 median :: lamy (15 streams)
>8063 median :: irys (11 streams)
>7849 median :: haato (7 streams)
>7298 median :: calliope (8 streams)
>7100 median :: watame (15 streams)
>7096 median :: nene (12 streams)
>6730 median :: amelia (11 streams)
>6420 median :: towa (14 streams)
>5903 median :: hakos (12 streams)
>5842 median :: kiara (13 streams)
>5190 median :: sana (11 streams)
>4716 median :: himemoriluna (17 streams)
>4612 median :: polka (10 streams)
>3552 median :: sora (7 streams)
>3186 median :: azki (7 streams)
>3028 median :: matsuri (13 streams)
>3013 median :: roboco (16 streams)
>2555 median :: aki (6 streams)
>2415 median :: ollie (15 streams)
>2334 median :: choco (9 streams)
>2298 median :: astel (5 streams)
>1725 median :: reine (17 streams)
>1532 median :: moona (14 streams)
>968 median :: risu (7 streams)
>965 median :: iofi (7 streams)
>964 median :: roberu (20 streams)
>960 median :: mel (1 streams)
>942 median :: melfissa (13 streams)
>784 median :: shien (5 streams)
>661 median :: miyabi (8 streams)
>544 median :: izuru (6 streams)
>515 median :: aruran (27 streams)
>493 median :: temma (11 streams)
>482 median :: oga (10 streams)
>436 median :: rikka (9 streams)

>> No.9868854

>>9868777
Mean is average, median is middlemost figure, and mode is who gives a shit I haven't used that one since high school

>> No.9868880

>>9868854
Mode is the most common result in the set

>> No.9868904

>>9868833
I'm really happy for subaru's incline meanwhile mel..

>> No.9868923

>>9868880
Oh so the number that comes up most often?
When would that even be used?

>> No.9868926

What about my boy range?

>> No.9868935

>>9868904
One stream, ShinChan of all things

>> No.9868991

>>9868935
>>9868904
Shin-chan overlapping with Nene's costume reveal stream of all streams LMFAO

>> No.9869012

>>9868923
>When would that even be used?
It’s actually used all the time, you just don’t notice.

Everytime the “average opinion” of a group needs to be determined and a poll is put up (or something is put up to a vote) they take the mode of the result set.

They just don’t call it “taking the modal average of the opinion of the group”, they call it “polling”

>> No.9869183

>>9868833
The gwelu line for Holos to be mid-tier is Polka or Luna's median

>> No.9869189
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Yesterday’s numbers
>44,049: Gawr Gura (Hololive)
>35,749: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>23,354: Pekora (Hololive)
>21,938: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>21,237: Subaru (Hololive)
>20,691: Kronii (Hololive)
>20,067: HAACHAMA (Hololive)
>19,906: Miko (Hololive)
>15,407: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>14,236: Mito (Nijisanji)
>13,475: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>12,625: Shibuya Hal (Indie)
>12,203: Botan (Hololive)
>12,139: IRyS (Hololive)
>11,181: Shibuya Hal (Indie)
>11,140: -ars almal- (Nijisanji)
>11,068: Nene (Hololive)

>> No.9869239

AUGUST PEAK CCV MEDIAN
>33167 median :: ouro (7 streams)
>30759 median :: marine (13 streams)
>28711 median :: pekora (35 streams)
>19823 median :: miko (47 streams)
>19478 median :: mumei (4 streams)
>19249 median :: ceres (7 streams)
>17882 median :: gura (19 streams)
>16958 median :: subaru (28 streams)
>16379 median :: rushia (22 streams)
>15921 median :: aqua (12 streams)
>15718 median :: ayame (3 streams)
>15519 median :: shion (10 streams)
>14600 median :: hakos (8 streams)
>13931 median :: suisei (17 streams)
>12558 median :: kanata (30 streams)
>12121 median :: haato (36 streams)
>11984 median :: inanis (19 streams)
>11669 median :: korone (25 streams)
>10561 median :: mio (21 streams)
>10164 median :: flare (32 streams)
>9848 median :: sana (7 streams)
>9085 median :: nene (17 streams)
>8772 median :: amelia (26 streams)
>8614 median :: botan (28 streams)
>8428 median :: watame (22 streams)
>8304 median :: okayu (23 streams)
>8174 median :: irys (28 streams)
>7798 median :: noel (23 streams)
>7771 median :: lamy (34 streams)
>7134 median :: calliope (22 streams)
>6086 median :: kiara (24 streams)
>5564 median :: polka (27 streams)
>5361 median :: fubuki (61 streams)
>5259 median :: towa (30 streams)
>4855 median :: mel (9 streams)
>4216 median :: himemoriluna (33 streams)
>3312 median :: matsuri (23 streams)
>3272 median :: sora (17 streams)
>2803 median :: ollie (27 streams)
>2798 median :: azki (4 streams)
>2620 median :: roboco (34 streams)
>2253 median :: moona (21 streams)
>2249 median :: choco (23 streams)
>2226 median :: aki (12 streams)
>1966 median :: astel (25 streams)
>1751 median :: reine (30 streams)
>1370 median :: iofi (15 streams)
>1197 median :: risu (15 streams)
>1069 median :: melfissa (19 streams)
>950 median :: roberu (39 streams)
>844 median :: shien (15 streams)
>717 median :: miyabi (20 streams)
>618 median :: izuru (15 streams)
>563 median :: oga (17 streams)
>533 median :: aruran (56 streams)
>407 median :: rikka (29 streams)
>397 median :: temma (28 streams)

>> No.9869320 [DELETED] 

How scared would the delivery guy be to see an amazoness in her habitat after he pressed the doorbell

>> No.9869329

>>9869183
See >>9869239 for a full month. The real “gwelu line” is astel. It truly puts a lower boundary on “mid tier” and anything below is “bottom tier”

>> No.9869353 [DELETED] 

>>9869320
Was supposed to be on hlg, deleting it in a moment

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>>9868833
>>9869239
>ayame(3)

>> No.9869465

>>9869365
Median is good most of the time, but honestly whether we take the median or average, Ayame's numbers are fucked.

>> No.9869468

>>9869320
>Be an uber driver in Japan
>A dreadful chill runs down my spine as I check my phone and see that the order I just accepted was HER again
>Ring the door bell with a trembling finger
>A voice booms from inside the house
>"OH, A PINPON!"
>Thunderous footsteps approach the door and it swings open so hard you swear it's about to fall off its hinged
>A 5'6" foreign amazoness looms head and shoulders over you
>"YO DUDE BIG UPS, YOU WERE SO FAST! I BE THAT FOOD IS HELLA HOT MY MAN!"
>Try your best to overcome the fear as you attempt to remember your High School English class
>"S-Sorry... no crepe... I'm fine thank you, and you?"
>Hand over the food as quickly as possible and flee to the car since you're terrified she's about to drag you inside and show you her Commodore Perry
I fucking hate this woman

>> No.9869632

>>9868833
>gura (8 streams)
This doesn't count her unarchived karaoke streams?

>> No.9869663

>>9869632
Those were made yesterday (JST) so, no.

>> No.9869726

>>9869632
You're right, it should be 10.
I think it's missing today's unarchived karaoke and the previous unarchived karaoke that Holostats missed (39k peak).

https://playboard.co/en/video/XI6jpDfSQNs

>> No.9869765

what was the peak of gura's anniversary karaoke earlier? I missed it due to work

>> No.9869768
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9869768

<<< Why holobronies are scared to talk about averages. Imagine thinking "peak median" garbage with fucking Ayame at the top for the month is a good metric. Also, lmao she still has her outfit reveal boosting her average.

>> No.9869800

>>9864502
mori locked her paypigs in before doing that. rat did it right in her debut

>> No.9869803

>>9869765
41k, plus minus a thousand.

>> No.9869826

>>9869768
You know play board uses the last 14 streams regardless of when they were streamed, right?

>> No.9869835

>>9869803
well that fell of a clip from her what? 100k karaokes
the EN vtuber scene is dying

>> No.9869855

>>9869726
>previous unarchived karaoke that Holostats missed
I’ll have to manually add that. Any other stream you guys think Holostats missed this month?

>> No.9869923

>>9869826
It doesn't matter to nijiniggers, as long as it suits their narratives these idiots will keep pushing it

>> No.9869924

>>9869855
Fuck, that's the only one I remember. There were like 5-6 from different holomems but apart from that karaoke (39k), the rest were just average numbers (morning streams from Fubuki/Lamy etc...) so it shouldn't affect too much.

>> No.9869953

>>9869826
>>9869923
>Ayame does a single 35k for the entire month
>Ayame gets the best "peak median"
Bravo Ayame. I kneel to you even though your last 15 streams had a lower average than Kenmochi's.

>> No.9869973

>>9869923
That bloke is not a vtuber fan of any company. He just dislikes certain vtubers / certain vtuber regions and look for ways to try to diminish their massive success in any way he think he can
>SPOILER: he can’t

>> No.9869993

>>9869953
Maybe you would since you're fucking retarded.
A normal person will see that she has 3 streams and disregard her numbers as too skewed to take seriously.

>> No.9869994

>>9869855
The only numbers that gets remembered are the high ones. Don't want to waste brain space remembering streams that are low, which is why we should have another piyo honestly.

>> No.9870169

>>9869953
The reason the number of streams in the period is included is exactly so you can exclude the ones whose sample is too small for the result to have any significance.

Most people look at Ayame’s number, think “what an oddity” and skip right past.

>> No.9870236

>>9869768
Averages tend to be skewed if you have high peaks or low lows. Median is a more realistic number based on trends. Take this set of numbers for example: (16,000, 24,000, 194,000); the "average" viewership would be 78,666, which isn't realistic.

>> No.9870264

>>9867021
I think your missing the point of the discussion, which is about why there's a difference in how Baelz is earning compared to Mori who's also shown to like being with guys.

Anyways I don't think Roberu is that much of an impact as to her being a low earner, id chalk it more that Mori got an audience from the music side that want to see her succeed in making her kind of music. Mori has also shown herself to be actually a dork and made mistakes early on that attracted some attention from saviorfags while Baelz is already looked to be experienced. Also Mori exudes the "cool and manly" image that gives the impression she'll just be fellow bros, I think this might also be a factor why Towa isn't losing as much as Matsuri when collabing with guys.

>> No.9870277

>>9870236
Which is why playboard uses a sample of 15 streams to not skew the averages too much. Playboard is completely fine in this context.

>> No.9870339

>>9869012
>that explanation
My mind is blown

>> No.9870377

>>9870277
It skews all the same, because it compares completely different temporal periods.
You could be comparing a whole year of streams from a streamer with one week of some other streamer, which is so fucking retard there are not even strong enough words to describe it.

The only reason you use playboard is because you don’t have other data source, that’s why you’re stuck defending it

>> No.9870388

>>9867021
>HolostarsEN could be a success
even before looking at male-female interaction on the en side you'd need to prove male en vtubers could be successful and the only ones that come to mind to me are pre-existing male streamers who got an avatar after having built up an audience. i can't think of any who started as a vtuber.
Also I'd say mori is an exception not the rule with male-female examples

>> No.9870391

>>9870277
Which, again is "okay" in an average streaming week, but once that week has a special event like New Costumes, 3D Lives or once in a lifetime collabs, it's pretty obvious that averages are going to be skewed

>> No.9870414

>>9870277
Except for the whole thing with Playboard randomly missing streams and peaks.
No one even knows if Playboard is using average of stream average or average of stream peaks for their average viewers calculation.

>> No.9870440

>>9862929
>Kuzuha
Nijisanji has NO confidence in any of their other talents, lol. Its kind of pathetic at this point.

>> No.9870519

>>9866691
>Whoever in Cover thought she was a good pick needs to get kicked in the ass
Fuck off. Bae is awesome and I'm glad she filters faggots like you.

>> No.9870532

>>9870440
To be fair, it could be the sponsor who asked Anycolor for Kuzuha to shill their products

>> No.9870556

>>9870391
The outfit reveal number still present in Ayame's last 15 streams data still doesn't stop her from getting mogged by Kenmochi.

>> No.9870577

Allow me to be retarded for a moment, but how does Hololive stack up against Nijisanji if we stack upp ALL of their viewers and earnings like that tard who compared IRyS and NijiEN back then?

>> No.9870591

>>9870556
Is it really? Where is the proof that playboard takes data based on the last 15 streams?

>> No.9870603

>>9867021
>people overseas are fine with male-female interactions
Speak for yourself. I hope it never happens.

>HolostarsEN could be a success if they limit collabs with the girls once or twice every month
NEVER collab. Male-female interactions should never happen

>Quizshow
I watch Hololive, not Nijishitty. Fuck that shit.

>> No.9870625

>>9870603
Get a trip at this point, you post in several generals and it's retardedly obvious.

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>>9870591
It's called not being retarded.

>> No.9870634
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9870634

>>9870591

>> No.9870669

>>9870603
>I watch Hololive, not Nijishitty

>> No.9870911

>>9870577
55-45 in favor of Hololive only by number of viewers watching in a day, earnings is stupid but honestly, stop being retarded, this is gonna open a timeloop that CCV is better than VOD views vice versa.

>> No.9870954

>>9870911
>stop being retarded
>posts a random made up number

>> No.9870990 [DELETED] 

>P-Pomu…

>> No.9871014

>>9870954
I offered my opinion and I gave it to him

>> No.9871038
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>P-Pomu…

>> No.9871067

>>9871038
well, is Pomu Anya of nijiEN now?

>> No.9871071

>>9870626
>>9870634
To be fair, it says up to 15 not 15 flat. It could be a 2 week period, last 15 streams during that period.

>> No.9871110

>>9871071
Up to 15 disclaims streamers still without 15 streams on record, more likely

>> No.9871152

>>9871038
Unarchived music stream (buff) during her normal streaming hours, vs. 2.5hr delayed stream outside her normal streaming hours

>> No.9871161

>ITT: Baelz and her number woes
Did she stop jumping around in the time slot scheduling game? If not then she's going to still be a hardstuck low tier Holo. Pick an audience, pick a time and stick to it or you will never build a loyal following, let alone gachikoi. She may have lost the Japanese already given they already labeled her "rotten".

Actually, this should be a rule of thumb for all Holos:
Pick a time and set it as your main stream time, with at least 4 streams every week. If you want to target a secondary audience, do the same but for a different time slot. The most important part is that you shouldn't stop streaming on your main slot for any reason that carries no merit, even if it means multiple times a day.

>> No.9871177
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9871177

Sana...

>> No.9871228

>>9870954
You are welcome to throw your own numbers in.

>> No.9871288

>>9871177
graduation stream when?

>> No.9871314

>>9871177
Sana is doing fine for the expectations. Ratgirl tho...

>> No.9871392

>>9871014
>opinions
>number threads
Just check the history, anon.

>>9870577
Hololive's dedicated following is likely larger overall with an overall average of about 250k if we go by the various MC events that have taken place over the years. This, of course applies mostly for events on primarily JP friendly hours. If we go by maybe the peak hours on the Saturday/Sunday slot, they could theoretically pull in 300k if the event is noteworthy enough.

Nijisanji is a bit more complicated to quantify due to the sheer size of the organization, but most of the streamers normally stick to their own, so we don't have hard numbers beyond the major tournaments like Koshien, which draw around 200k. Beyond that, it's hard to tell.

>> No.9871424

>>9870577
There's a guy who posts total earnings for both hololive and nijisanji by month. I don't have it with me now but hololive earned 300k more yen this month despite losing Coco and having a third of the members than nijisanji did so you do the math.

>> No.9871474

>>9871314
>Ratgirl
>expectations
yeah.. who new that she will be #4 in term of popularity
+im not sure but i guess Sana beats her in term of SCs even if we will not count first SC stream

>> No.9871600

>>9871474
RatGirl was, according to that dreadful lore, the "leader of the council". Her placement in the promotional material (front and center), that tidbit in her lore, the fact she closed the relay and had the first colab in her channel and everything else seemed to point out she would be the breakout character

But she failed to generate interest by both streaming at very disparate hours all across the timezones and picking the stupidest games and, worse, she's supposed to be the embodiment of chaos rivalling even Haachama but she's actually a very orderly and meek ratgirl.

That didn't help her the littlest

>> No.9871753
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9871753

It's not normal to see this one with this many viewers. Is Selen helping her incline? Or maybe the gooks being introduced to vtubers through hololive also helping NijiKR to some extent?

>> No.9871793

>>9871753
Give it time, we'll see if the increase sticks or not, then we can discuss what caused it. A bump up that isn't prolonged isn't meaningful in the long run.

>> No.9871823

>>9871753
>It's not normal to see this one with this many viewers.
she had 1.3k+ during collab with Selen

>> No.9871844

>>9871753
>90% eop chat

>> No.9871850

>>9871424
lol
Does it include earnings from weekly events Niji have been doing since August and cd sales?

>> No.9871874

>>9871314
rrat girl is doing better than sana in views and ccv tough.
rrat girl vods tillr each 100k easily, sana not so much

>> No.9871886

>>9871850
Oh right forgot about the earnings from sponsorship streams (especially those that got over 100k viewers)

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>>9871886
Whoops completely forgot about the goods sold especially at the event venues. Hope that helps to calculate the earnings.

>> No.9871945

>>9870603
Can you stop with this nijishitty post? People ain't gonna take you Seriously if you keep being unfriendly retard

>> No.9871992

>>9871161
Yes she need fixed time slot, if i remember correctly she got good numbers during rushia's time slot and jp prime time, as for game choice.. I hope she saving some buff co-op game that can be used after her collab ban lifted, she fluent enough in jp to collab with jp holos and of course some Minecraft seeing those interaction on EN server she can get high number

>> No.9872003

>>9871753
all of the above.
Also, KR watchers use Twitch for streaming waaaaaayy more than YT.

>> No.9872109

>>9871161
>>9871992
there is no way for her to pick an audience without destorying her sleep schedule or current daily schedule.
It is already a feat they streaming at these 2 times.
They picking the empty slots is forcing them sream post midnight or way to early in the morning. Baelz is playing it right by appealing to jops during to their timeslot (6k last time playing random ass game too) but sana is just going full english at those times. At least they are not strreaming over each other.

>> No.9872113

>>9871992
>I hope she saving some buff co-op game
she can leech forever.
she must find her comfortable spot as an entertainer.
some collabs could help, but there is no guarantee things(and she) will change much.

for me personally her forced kayfabe is to much.

>> No.9872155

>>9872113
>forced
she mentions the word caos like 3 times a stream.
She doesnt play with her keyfabe a lot.

>> No.9872163
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9872163

>Meanwhile in an adjacent numberfag field
OH NO NO NO NO, WHAT WENT WRONG?!
>Since the act’s debut, MAMAMOO has always been one of the best-selling girl groups of the third generation.
>Their mini-album, WAW, for example, is just a few thousand copies away from reaching 100,000 sales on the Hanteo chart after selling 38,259 copies on its first day of release.
>...
>Given that WAW was released just three months ago and fans have been highly anticipating the group’s first OT4 album since Wheein left RBW, fans were expecting I Say MAMAMOO: The Best to reach similarly impressive heights.
>In fact, comeback goal guides made by MooMoos told fans to aim to reach 50,000 sales on day one.
>...
>The real first-day figure, however, ended up being far from that. At the end of the tracking day on September 15, I Say MAMAMOO: The Best recorded a final first-day sales total of just 6,981 copies.
>...
>Now, fans are left confused about why sales dipped so low—especially considering MAMAMOO’s performance on other platforms is even better than before.
>For example, “Where Are We Now” (the title track of WAW) took around 10 hours to reach 1 million views on YouTube. “Mumumumuch,” on the other hand, surpassed 1 million views in less than 8 hours.
(note: goes to show how impressive was Gura's Reflect too)

Now for the reason
>While fans can only speculate for now, one big clue comes from Korean music stores. On Yes24, Hottracks, Bizent, Music Korea, and Synnara, I Say MAMAMOO is currently sold out.
>This seems to imply that RBW failed to print enough copies of the album to satisfy demand.

Of course KPop is some other universe with respect both to size and the extent they go for numberfaggotry but this is an interesting view of how small the vtubing world is and how much space it has to grow

>> No.9872206

>>9872155
>>9871600
>>9871474
>>9871314
Since the whole Chaos Incarnate thing isn't working out
How cutesy do you think her alt costume will be?
After the obligatory new years outfit of course.

>> No.9872249

>>9872155
>she mentions the word caos
..anon she put upfront fake hyper energetic, "chaotic" and loud personality
>forced
d reps

>> No.9872268

>>9872163
MAMAMOO has been in their decline era it's about Itzy and TWICE now.

>> No.9872277

>>9872206
>obligatory new years outfit of course.
holoEN didnt get 1 yet and since next new costumes will be soon those will not be new 1

>> No.9872281

>>9872249
>being energetic is keyfabe
uh?

>> No.9872323

>>9872163
So I don't know anything about KPop. Is the explanation that they just forgot to print enough copies of an anticipated release plausible, or is that copium? CDs have got to be ridiculously cheap to print in industrial quantities, and also don't exactly take a ton of warehouse space for the profit margin per unit, so it would have to be a severe fuckup for the label to only print 7k copies for release day. Not sure I buy it.

>> No.9872346
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9872346

Here is my Youtube homepage suggestions. I already watched that Haachama video (more than once too) and it keeps getting suggested.
>HAVE MERCY OF ME HAACHAMA! MY MIND IS ALREADY HAACHAMACHAMA

It explains the high viewership too, Youtube algorithm clearly took a shine of it and it already beat her second original single in views despite being only 9 days old

>> No.9872359

>>9872281
....
*sight*
>fake hyper energetic
>fake "chaotic" personality
>forced loud voice
can you read fucking post? or even better spend time doing your reps

>> No.9872367

>>9871753
https://twitchtracker.com/banhada2434
She got a 3k peak streaming pummel party with her team and a bunch of other apex players from the messed up scrims.

>> No.9872368

>>9872323
>Is the explanation that they just forgot to print enough copies of an anticipated release plausible
Not "forgot". Fans are SEETHING because they believe the label is boycotting this particular group in favor of others in the same "generation".

Given how the KPop industry is plagued with favoritism, "casting couch" issues and petty bickering it is not impossible that that's true.

>> No.9872370

>>9872359
I'm NTA bro but you're barely making sense, are you drunk or something?

>> No.9872376

>>9872323
It's cope you don't just forget to print enough copies for a popular group.

>> No.9872385

>>9872359
>*sight*
go back

>> No.9872487
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9872487

AquaMarin collab in 3 hours ,on Marine's channel.
>PREDICTIONS?

>> No.9872500

>>9872487
sex
but also 30k to 35k dpeending on the contet

>> No.9872520

>>9872487
Going for a conservative estimate, I'd say 50k peak

>> No.9872541

>>9872487
Does Marine not get tired of doing non-split POV collabs? She gives a false sense that she's more popular than Pekora sometimes due to this.

>> No.9872566

>>9872541
Why would she get tired of getting big numbers of viewers, some of whom will inevitably convert to subs, memberships, and superchats?

>> No.9872576

>>9872487
>Minecraft
>Gura and Ina join in to promote UMISEA

>> No.9872587

>>9872576
They have an official UMISEA collab tomorrow IIRC. But still, if this happens, it'll be big.

>> No.9872606

>>9872487
Uh, depends heavily on what it's for desu.
If it's Minecraft and Umisea related, ez 35k+ imo. If they're just playing some random game otherwise, 30k should be easily doable but who knows.
>>9872109
Probably her current daily schedule desu. They're both Australian, so 5pm PST is morning for her and Sana, and they'd sleep at morning PST hours. 2am PST, which is Rushia's slot, is prime pickings if Bae is willing to stream at that timeslot consistently, but we don't know what obligations she has such as possibly work or otherwise.

>> No.9872622

>>9872487
They will say that this stupid idol i it with western whores has been canceled

>> No.9872654

>>9872622
It's a little early to be blackout isn't it? What time is it in SEA, like 5:50 PM?

>> No.9872705

>>9872541
what? Been a while since I read a post that just boggles the mind at how stupid it is.

>> No.9872764

>>9872487
45k peak

>> No.9872787

>>9872764
nc joke

>> No.9872829

>>9872787
Depends if Pekora is streaming tonight or not. If not, and they're doing MC on the JP server is not impossible...

>> No.9872852

>>9872368
Speaking of favoritism, do everybody think that there's favoritism inside vtuber group?

>> No.9872910

>>9872852
obviously.

>> No.9872933

>>9872852
>favoritism inside vtuber group
>Gura the Only1 who get actual nendoroid figure as merch
why do you think so?

>> No.9872952

>>9872852
I have no doubt there is some, but at least insofar as we know from Hololive, they try and minimize it, and for good reason.
If favortism was widespread/common in Hololive, that hive of menhera would have completely blown up long ago. If anything Cover probably supports their talents insufficiently given their income, which is why they hired a fuckton of staff I. The past year to try and fix that.

>> No.9873045

>>9872933
why do you like posting obvious lies?

>> No.9873065

>>9872852
There is favoritism in any group of 3 or more people, across all segments of society, no matter how thin or how thick you slice.
It is natural human behaviour and society spends an inordinate amount of time and energy pretending there isn't, and that people make objective choices based on objective factors instead of just splitting people in two classes
>ingroup
>"others"

With that said, for both Nijisanji and Hololive at very least, their business model is one where even the lightest hitter is still an asset and a potential revenue bringer so there is no point in showing any overt favoritism.

It helps that it is and always have been mostly "remote working" too so that removes other incentives for favoritism other than business reasons
>like sex

>> No.9873078
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This midget shart leeches off a pseudo-Niji and basically, you are fucking stupid

>> No.9873112
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>>9872933
You surely must being "only one in HoloMyth so far" and it was a solid business decision too.
There is no point is waiting until all of them are ready before releasing the best sellers

>> No.9873217

Is Kanae not streaming his POV in the Apex collab? Selen gonna get numbers

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9873231

>>9873078
Sometimes I think you are low key advertising Holostars pretending to hate them. That seems like a fun collab and I may end up watching it

>> No.9873264

>>9873217
is probably gonna do a kuzu abd start streaming after the other 2 starts.

>> No.9873267

>>9873217
ILLEGAL VIEW FUNNELING!

>> No.9873287

>>9873045
>>9873112
>only one in HoloMyth so far
i thought this1 was obvious.
>it was a solid business decision too.
true, but this is not part of the question

>> No.9873342

>>9873217
>>9873217
>Is Kanae not streaming his POV in the Apex collab?
>s probably gonna do a kuzu abd start streaming after the other 2 starts.
Kanae will join them after an hour
dont know about his pov

>> No.9873345

Ayame's Goodbye Sengen just hit 10M. It took 118 days, pretty damn fast.

>> No.9873392

>>9873345
flare...

>> No.9873427

>>9873287
The question was about favoritism. Favoritism, as far as I understand, is making decision based on personal affinity at expense of other reasons.

That is not the case with regards to Gura nendo, it is an obvious business decision. Favoritism would be Kiara (for instance) getting her Nendo produced first because she’s management favorite, or Mel (as opposed to Haachama).

>> No.9873490

>>9873345
For Hololive member channel (excluding official channel):
2nd fastest to 10M (118 days)
The fastest is RIP (99 days)(fastest original among vtubers, 2nd fastest including cover song)

>> No.9873554
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If there was any favoritism in Hololive, it would be on Ayame.

>> No.9873614

>>9873554
kek, how so? Her rare appearances, be it in streams, hologra and covers always bring in the big numbers.
If much there is a "fan favoriism" towards her

>> No.9873642

First umisea episode had 620k. Pretty damn fast to reach that point in a day. I was sure it get like 300k or something.

>> No.9873645

When REFLECT reaches 10M, it will the fastest original.(~90 days)
But RIP has more growth than REFLECT when they were both released after 3 months.

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9873673

No pekkers today?

>> No.9873677

>>9873614
>hologra
She's essentially the face of hologra anon, and they also use her face for that cover song on the main channel that consisted of gen 0-4.

>> No.9873695

>>9873217
Probably like Kuzuha they never reserve streams.

>> No.9873741

>>9873614
>hologra
her last episod has 2mil views

>> No.9873776

>>9873695
Illegal view funneling!
Man this has gotta me my favorite numbers meme so far.
>>9873673
Nothing so far.

>> No.9873852

>>9873217
6k guaranteed with the box pushing method ssg Kanae san learning from the best

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9873855

>>9873645
I'm pretty sure the split of Reflect is growing at least just as fast as the main one now. I keep getting that version in the recommends too.

>> No.9873888

>>9873852
Apex servers are fucked, they may cancel stream

>> No.9873930
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9873930

On track to hit 10M before september ends. KING is supreme.

>> No.9874053

>>9873855
RIP has ~500K weekly views without other platforms when it reached 10M. Its retention rate is very strong considering Mori has released more songs.
Not surprised because music is her advantage.

>> No.9874134

>>9873930
My prediction is around Oct.10~15 if it maintains current growth rate

>> No.9874310

>>9873930
I doubt it, it will slow down more in the upcoming days. Mid october is my prediction.

>> No.9874504

>>9871844
You were saying? There's nothing but ㅋㅋㅋ in her chat right now.

>> No.9874829
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>upcoming streams
Smart time for a guerilla for RatGirl, not a lot hapenning now for JP.
>overlapping with Sana
kek, sasuga chaos bringer ,the numbers destruction will be chaotic

AquaMarine will be Minecraft, I don't think anons predicting 45k are realistic. More like 30k

>> No.9874882

>>9874829
Mori is going to be overlapping both of them for at least an hour, Gura just joined her as well, so it might be pretty rough.

>> No.9875006

>>9872163
Unrelated but I used to be a numberfag for Twice & kpop and this is surprising. Is there should be a board for kpop. Although fans are cancer in any site so it doesn’t really matter

>> No.9875185

>>9875006
Oh boy....if there was a purely Kpop board on 4xhan, you can bet your ass that thing would make the rrats here look like tiny mice.

>> No.9875217

>>9875006
I used to numberfag dota in r/dotamasterrace but I haven't followed dota in years now

>> No.9875218

>>9874882
>Gura just joined her as well
There's a chance she jumps from EN to JP server that might boost AquaMarine some views. She did it before with Mumei impromptu collab

>> No.9875301

Mori on her way back to 15k after Gura joined her. Taking that 20 min break tanked her from 16k to 12k so it's an impressive recovery this late into the stream.

The new Niji Ark arc might be worth paying attention to too.
Kanae got 22k, Ars got 11k, and it's the first time Honhima got 10k by herself in a while. There's also half a dozen Nijis getting buffed numbers from it as well.
Kuzuha used to get pretty good numbers playing Ark whenever he did (30k), so he might get 40k the first time he plays it again, judging from how much everyone else got boosted.

>> No.9875317

>>9875185
Kpop is to /mu/ what we were to /jp/ so I do think /kr/ will happen one day, you're right that that place will be an even bigger zoo to gawk at than here

>> No.9875323
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9875323

>>9872576
>>9874829
M-manager san??!
and mori will finish at 20:00 PM JST, gura will suddenly login into MC JP

>> No.9875381

>>9875006
There's a kpop general on /mu/, and it's basically the entire board's schizos crammed into a single thread.

>> No.9875418

>>9872487
25k, aqua is irrelevant now

>> No.9875425

Apex server is dead?

>> No.9875438
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9875438

Oh right I forgot her actual anniversary is today, I thought that was way too much for a seemingly regular zatsu

>> No.9875466

>>9875425
>Apex server is dead?
Don't know about dead but yesterday it was lagging as fuck for Choco.

>> No.9875484

>>9875381
Theres also some on /trash/
All kpop generals post as if they're on dcinside with no replies just schizoposts

>> No.9875507

>>9875438
Subaru was birthed over an indian cemetery, under a stair and broke a mirror right on exiting the womb, wasn't it?
Never seen a person this unlucky

>> No.9875508

>>9875425
Doesn't seem like it.
Selen at 4.8k in her warmup with Qu before Kanae joins them so this is the stream she gets past 6k for sure.

>> No.9875544

>>9875508
I went into her stream a few minutes ago while she migrated and she seems to be in EU server right now

>> No.9875603
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>A TALKING DUCK!
kek, going like that she may beat Polka outfit reveal

>> No.9875679 [DELETED] 

>Makes an all wood bunker
>Don't have a bed
Is your oshi retarded, deadbeats?

>> No.9875694
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9875694

** JUMPS INTO YOUR SLOT **
>NOTHING PERSONEL, COUNCIL KIDDOS!
Really, Pekora surely threw a wrench over RatGirl's plan of a guerilla in a relatively calmer slot

>> No.9875706 [DELETED] 

>>9875679
Sorry, meant for hlg again. Goddamn, I'll delete.

>> No.9875728

PSA: if you have time to reply to your post made in mistake you have time to delete it

>> No.9875742

>>9875694
Is worse for sana
rrat has 1k waiting probablt will have 4k for her zatsu
Sana has 600 waiting she will be lucking to break 3k.This is a terrible slot for her unless she starts speaking japanese like bae.

>> No.9875790

Selen has 5.4k and Kanae didnt even come yet

>> No.9875886

Pekora (Another Suffering stream, maybe 25k?)
Marine (Minecraft with Aqua, maybe 30k-40k?)
Bae (Guerilla Talk Stream, probably 3k-5k)
Sana (damn poor girl, probably 2k)
Suisei (guess she'll get 6k-9k)
Kanata & WTM (5-8k each)
Others will play around 2k to 5k

>> No.9875902
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9875902

>Top streams so far, according to live-ranking
Missing Ina Minecraft with 13.5k

>> No.9875946

>>9875790
I'm rooting for her to beat 10k, it could kickstart something good for her branch and the EN scene as a whole

>> No.9875949

>>9875902
Can Pekora or AquaMarine beat Gura's Karaoke?? We will see

>> No.9875971

>>9875946
>kickstart
>apex
it wont unless everyone picks apex and is good at ti.

>> No.9876005

>>9875946
im too but server are shit today
AGAIN

>> No.9876020

>>9875946
Nah, even if she gets 10k, she's piggybacking on someone else's fanbase and they're mostly JOPs, even worse yumejos. You won't see an incline on her numbers after the collab.

>> No.9876044

>>9875946
>apex
>good for EN scene

>> No.9876138

>>9876044
ame

>> No.9876166

Stream cancelled?

>> No.9876195

>>9876166
Selen? n
she restart with delay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvWDHlHMIBQ

>> No.9876254

>>9875946
Selen hitting 10k would be huge for her and honestly she deserves it for how much work she's put into networking her way up the Apex ladder, but it won't lead to any incline for the rest of her branch.
These kinds of special collabs usually yield good peaks, but just like how Towa's 19k collab with rpr didn't change her usual Apex numbers, neither will Selen's normal apex numbers change much, and by extension, NijiEN's numbers.

>> No.9876287

>>9876138
>ame
>apex retarded fanbase was so bad that she actively avoids or debuffs her own few remaining apex streams

>> No.9876340

Is Lize stronger than Mito now? How is she getting 15k on a regular Genshin stream? She was promoted to queen instead of princess? I kneel.

>> No.9876372

So many newfags…

>> No.9876477

>>9875946
>>9876195
Too bad selenfags, enjoy your 5k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfCxVuux2I4

>> No.9876487

>>9876340
My tinfoil hat theory about why Lize and Kanae's Genshin numbers are higher than normal recently is because they're playing through the Inazuma story missions, which is the new Japanese-themed region.
Their genshin numbers are better now than when they were playing through Liyue(Chinese-themed).

>> No.9876510

>>9876287
>actively avoids or debuffs her own few remaining apex streams
still buff her number
+Selen MUCH better then Ame and dont care/afraid of stream snipers

>> No.9876557

>>9876510
+ Selen is Not social autist

>> No.9876582

>>9876477
Like I said chronoir never reserve streams unless its sponsorship. You dont see their streams here https://www.itsukaralink.jp/

>> No.9876633

>>9876372
straight from SEA it seems

>> No.9876701

Selen is already at 6k before the first custom even starts.

>> No.9876706

>>9876477
oops
>6,011 watching now

>> No.9876751

>>9876633
The entire board is getting infested with seaschizos. Best hang on tight because we are going into schizo hours.

>> No.9876752

>>9876582
But he does. He has a frame now

>> No.9876856

Damn so many good streams, too bad i only have 1 screen

>> No.9877293

Peko challenge stream again

>> No.9877411

>>9877293
it's just a short shit game, small numbers

>> No.9877472

I feel like Selen is the one boosting Kanae instead of the other way around. Nigga is already at 13k before the game starts. She's definitely going to help him gain even more EOP notoriety.

>> No.9877521
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9877521

This is already the highest peak for a NijiEN after debut.

>> No.9877545

>>9877472
Ya overseas collabs are rare so both sides get buffed even if split POV.
>notoriety
That's not what notoriety means.

>> No.9877602

>>9876340
Genshin is buff for lize

>> No.9877607
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9877607

>>9877411
>small numbers
kek

>> No.9877647

>>9877472
it's Hal's custom that is boosting Kanae, not selen

>> No.9877652

>>9877472
nah
is just the rarity of the collab

>> No.9877656

Sana....Christ, 1.5k.

>> No.9877689

>>9877607
and it will stay that peak, pekora can only get high with minecraft

>> No.9877707
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9877707

>top 5 ongoing streams according to live-ranking, unfiltered
News of the Emperor death were greatly exaggerated

>> No.9877779

>>9877656
could have gotten the 4k like her astrology stream but gura waking up and bael guerrilla happened.
doesnt help mori is a gura collab too.

>> No.9877783

>>9877656
Both rat and Sana's fault streaming at this time. I can understand it's 10pm for them now, but they could always stream at 7pm or 6pm JST. Kinda stupid going against Subaru's anniversary and Pekora's usual time.

>> No.9877855

>>9877783
>Kinda stupid going against Subaru's anniversary and Pekora's usual time
nah that makes little difference it is mori that is blackholing all english speaking fans. RRAT can still get 3k in a zatsu here becasue she speak japaense constantly but sana doesnt.

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>>9877689
>can only get high with minecraft
And eating borgers. And playing jump king. And playing that random kusoge. And just talking on the phone. And playing 12 minutes.

But if you take all of that, etc, etc, and unbraid her hair WHAT NUMBERS CAN SHE EVEN GET?

>> No.9877908

>>9877689
She hit 31k.

>> No.9877944

>>9877892
Your mistake was not just responding with "kek", anon. Waste of effort.

>> No.9878059

Why is Kuzuha not in this custom? You win the day for now rabbit.

>> No.9878082

>>9877472
he's doing charity right now don't kid yourself

>> No.9878095

>>9878059
he is getting blastered into games he doesnt play anymore

>> No.9878123

>>9877855
When is Sana gonna learn that you can't go up against established Holos on their usual timeslot. Any other game would've been fine, a minecraft impromptu collab with Mori, making an art stall beside ina or something but she's playing another unknown game.

>> No.9878126

>>9877944
I needed to add the “unbraid her hair” in the response somehow

>> No.9878200

>>9877783
Sana shows that if you really don't give any fucks about numbers and constantly sabotage yourself with inconsistent timeslots, niche content, and poor game choice, it is possible to reach new lows for HoloEN numbers.
Struggling to break 1.5k is something that even Kiara never experienced.

>> No.9878208

>>9877855
Let's see all the EN currently live right now
>Sana
Mostly EOP and western names
>Rrats
ESL flips, gooks, nips and Indogs and undetermined Western EOP
>Selen
ESL flips, pad-thai, indogs, nips and undetermined Western EOP.

Yeah this is more because of mori and gura holding the burgers currently awake in their stream hostages

>> No.9878316

>>9878123
to be honest it was the worst possible UNEXPECTED outcome
mori is doing a 10 endurance minecraft stream open to imprompt collab. only ina showed up early and was declining as no one was showing up. JUST NOW gura decideds to wake up and join mori rising her up again

>> No.9878383

>>9878123
The whole thing Calli is doing is for THEM, she said at the start she didn't want them to join in

>> No.9878418
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9878418

WHO WOULD WIN THIS HEAD TO HEAD BATTLE TO THE DEATH?

>the King of Indies, Emperor of all VTubers, Prince of Shiraz, MILF menace, playing a tournament organized by himself in his signature game at the peak of its popularity in the time slot of his main audience
>one meek barely known girl using 5% of her time to build some sort of wooden basement in a 12 years old game she doesn’t even master yet

THE ANSWER WILL SURPRISE, CONFUSE, TRIGGER AND YOU (AND UNBRAID PEKORA’S HAIR)!

>> No.9878431

>>9877855
We'll see if Bae and Sana's numbers incline after Mori ends in an hour or so.
Unfortunately for Sana, I feel like it won't matter that much since her numbers aren't good even when there's nothing else going on.

>> No.9878470

>>9878383
SANA WAS ON CHAT is pointless tey know about it.

>> No.9878473

>>9878418
how do we save shibuhal...

>> No.9878529

>>9878418
She's gonna end soon anyways

>>9878200
Both Sana and rrat is competing on who could get the least numbers with all the debuffs combined. Even treerrat wouldn't be this crazy.

>> No.9878557

>>9878473
By letting him actually start the custom?

>> No.9878833

Well, Kiara joining in at the end to rally the stream above 16k.

>> No.9878929

>>9878059
Notice how the thread is so peaceful without his cult worshipping him?

>> No.9878957

>>9878833
b-but what about orange woman debuff

>> No.9879000

>>9878957
Not in Voice chat, she just showed up in game, so debuff field does not apply.

>> No.9879016

>>9878929
>cult
Please don't mistake kuzushitposters as kuzuha fans.
They're still a cult, but they mostly care about drooling over him instead of his numbers.

>> No.9879066

>>9877656
MC unofficial hololmyth collab and JP prime time basically murdered any hopes she had.

>> No.9879143

>>9879016
>Please don't mistake kuzushitposters as kuzuha fans
im not expecting ppl here to watch stream

>> No.9879153

>>9879066
It also shows the potential ccv after collab ban in MC

>> No.9879195

Did ark have a major update or something? Wonder why some nijis are doing an ARK arc or something

>> No.9879231

>>9877472
Kanae get these numbers solo, given his recent numbers playing genshin and ARK solo, going back to apex is debuffing him.

>> No.9879262

>>9879231
Becasue e doesnt have kuzu next to him

>> No.9879363

>>9879143
Do they at least watch clips? I honestly watch more clips than streams but I tune in to the interesting ones and check out all the holo streams for a few minutes each.

>> No.9879464

>>9878929
oh nononono kneelbros went bankrupt paying kuzuha shitpost fees... how do we save southeast asia?

>> No.9879482

At the end of the day though, what will Sana and Baelz's supposed "low numbers do? Cover is not going to drop them, they still have successful genmates like Kroni, Fauna and Mumei. At the very least, I can see these two Aussies slowly building up their audience in their preferred timezones.

>> No.9879504

My god, I've never seen a stream more scuffed than this one. They can't start a fucking game. The luck is really against NijiEN.

>> No.9879588

>>9879504
just rescdeule
not like selene already destroyed sleep schedule would matter.

>> No.9879609

>>9879363
>Do they at least watch clips?
Kuzu-posters? i doubt it

>> No.9879639

>>9879588
like reschedule the entire custom? lol

>> No.9879669

>>9879482
bael can still get 5k on jp prime time with randome english kusoge so she can grow on that palce nicely specially once the collab ban is over and mc servers merge.
Sana REALLY needs to stay away from that timeslot or start speaking japanese.

>> No.9879724

>>9879639
what are they gonna do? wait until the servers get unfucked?

>> No.9879761

>>9879724
ya

>> No.9879768

>>9879482
Well less numbers mean less visibility on them so it can stifle their growth, some people also don't check out streams unless they see its got significant enough viewers.

>> No.9879847

At least Sana has saviorfags who give her money. Rat has shit viewers AND shit sc.

>> No.9879863

>>9879669
Australian time zone working against her. The rat at least managed to get a Japanese following.
Sana would have to do morning (her time) streams that will always overlap with Gura.

>> No.9879887

>>9879482
>what will Sana and Baelz's supposed "low numbers do?
Nothing.
It's just new since HoloMyth are all so successful from the start and even Kiara was still getting 10k+ with lots of special streams like Holotalk and collabs.

>> No.9880111

>>9875886
Pretty damn close guesses so far, only differences were some of the jp members got higher so far with:
Pekora more than 30k last I checked
Suisei around 10k
Kanata reached 12k before failing the english only challenge

>> No.9880200

>>9879887
Yeah, I feel like Irys and EN 2 are just there to give Myth some playmates and as some kind of the second net to catch the drifting newfags not liking Myth personality/type of stream/lack of streams.

>> No.9880262

>>9879262
He was streaming ARK with 15k viewers yesterday, Kuzuha was playing something solo too, unironically, I think Kuzuha is his biggest debuff, every time they collab, Kanae's views get sucked.

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>>9879464
>oh nononono kneelbros went bankrupt paying kuzuha shitpost fees
Joke is on you, I took a second job as a professional kneeler to pay for my shitposts

>> No.9880449

Why is sana playing a hipster game....? Gura and calli is playing minecraft.......do the math.....

>> No.9880490

>>9879504
Are Vtubers cursed? Yesterday Peko, Luna, Nene streams all got nuked by YT
Now this LMAO

>> No.9880532

>>9879482
Sana is the 2nd strongest member in terms of SC, Baelz is... well, at least she has more views. Also, I can't believe hwo weak Fauna's sc is, I thought she was going to end up like Lammy.

>> No.9880592

>>9880449
I know right? If you want to leech this is the time for fuck sake!

>> No.9880611

>>9880262
A portion of Kuzuha's viewers watch Kanae when Kuzuha is not on. Kuzuha's viewers watch Kuzuha when both Kanae and Kuzuha are on.

>> No.9880617

>>9880490
Baelz also is having problems but with YouTube

>> No.9880619

Has there been a decent bump to Baelz and Sana now that Mori/Gura ended?

>> No.9880630

>>9880532
has she made a smr after moentization?

>> No.9880642

>>9878431
Sana is still a sub 2k shitter. 16k and 3k views both poof

>> No.9880660

>>9879504
Reignite cup apex scrims were canceled 3 days in a row, apex servers are fucked after the update,

>> No.9880668

>>9880617
that seemed more on her end. Sana was fine

>> No.9880671

>>9880611
'man yells at screen' is easier to laugh at

>> No.9880702

>>9880617
No that's just her aussie Internet being shit

>> No.9880714

>>9880642
Sana already went from 1.6k to 2k and a slow rise. would be hard to rise since she is already mid stream.

>> No.9880779

>>9880611
Kuzuha was on at the same time yesterday, I'm talking about collabs.

>> No.9880956

Sana got 500 viewers after Mori and Baelz ended the stream

>> No.9881091

>>9880956
Racist fanbase.

>> No.9881220
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HOW DO WE SAVE KANAE LADS?!?!

>> No.9881277

>>9867836
Thanks for making it clear you know shit about statistics retarded tribalfag

>> No.9881278

>>9881220
graduate and marriage with me

>> No.9881281

>>9881220
Eh he's doing fine, he doesn't need saving.
Also, my guess for Aquamarine MC off, but I didn't factor in Perkora throwing her stream up so goddamn late.

>> No.9881293

>>9881220
wow ib so white

>> No.9881393

Well, Selen got a decent peak but overall I'd say it was a failure due to massive scuffs and that they kept dying early. Are they going to do this again or not?

>> No.9881445

>>9881393
>Well, Selen got a decent peak but overall I'd say it was a failure
anon it was 6k+ 70% of the time

>> No.9881483

>>9868656
You don't know how statistical analysis work. You don't even know what a median is. Get out of this thread and go say this kind of shit to tourists, they've never had a statistics class in their lifes and will sure buy into your 1IQ bullshit.

>> No.9881484

>>9881445
A lot of viewers dropped out of the stream due to the scuffs. She could've easily got 8k+ if it went right.

>> No.9881553

>>9881281
Feels like it would have more numbers if it's on Aqua's channel

>> No.9881563

>>9880956
She need another 500k to beat luna come on mate!

>> No.9881616

>>9881393
They didn't even play the scrim, 6k for just talking and waiting in the lobby seems fine, Emperor Hal should've cancelled the custom though, he knew the servers were fucked up, don't know why he insisted for it to happen today.

>> No.9881692
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ARK and Genshin reign supreme. APEX btfo.

>> No.9881755

>>9881692
SULTAN REIGNS SUPREME!

>> No.9881818

>>9881692
>selen apex outviewed by two mid fujobait males doing whatever
ngmi

>> No.9881830

>>9881692
Niji could use a good sandbox arc, having just HoloMC for that sorta thing can be a bit tiring for the JP audiences, let em mix things up a bit instead of just MC+Apex 24/7

>> No.9881846

>>9881616
They played one time and died early.

>> No.9881986
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>THE DAY SO FAR
Missing Ina Minecraft with 13.5k. First time in a while Gura takes #1 two days in a row

>> No.9882145

>>9881986
Miko going to stream later i think. So top 4 holo miko, marine, gura, pekora in the top 5 would be nice.

>> No.9882147

>>9881830
Interestingly enough a "Niji vs. Holo" APEX arc would get likely the highest audiences of anything ever done.
>MAKE IT HAPPEN, EMPEROR!

>Astel, Towa, Aqua, Matsuri, Ame, Choco and Roboco for team A and team B for Holo
>Kuzuha, Kanae, Selen, Chihiro, Hoshiwaka and Bora Nun Team A and Team B for Nijisanji
>Emperor Hal with whoever he wants for team Others
VGori needs not apply!

>> No.9882185

>>9882145
>Miko going to stream later i think.
Needs to be before midnights JST or it won't count

>> No.9882194

>>9881846
That match had only 5 teams.

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IS THIS FUCKING HIROMOOT?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFFF0DoM198

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>>9882147
Yeah... maybe

>> No.9882484

>>9881986
I'm sad that Kanae got mogged by the 5%er. That peak isn't even from a fucking game. He got it in the lobby. If things went right, he could've gotten 20k+ and Selen 8k+.

>> No.9882574

So many nijicope today

>> No.9882589

>>9882484
he'll be fine he has his schizos paying his rent that's why he's equal to kuzuha despite being outviewed by at least 3 times, kanae schizos vastly overpower kuzuha schizos

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WHO WOULD WIN THIS FIGHT TO THE DEATH?!?!?!

>THE MOST CELEBRATED NIJISANJI ENGLISH BRANCH, AN APEX PREDATOR PLAYING HER SIGNATURE GAME BOOSTED BY ILLEGAL VIEW FUNNELING BY THE PRINCE HIMSELF
>one meek weather girl whose claim to fame is to turn from cheery to serious very quickly in the even to an earthquake

THE ANSWER WILL ANGER, CONFUSE, BAFFLE, MISTIFY YOU AND UNBRAID PEKORA'S HAIR!

>> No.9882641

>>9882574
i guess i see why>>9881986

>> No.9882680

>>9882609
>'prince' kanae
>not 'object of worship'
you're ngmi royaltybro

>> No.9882684

I will never forgive ILLEGAL VIEW FUNNELING

>> No.9882881

>>9882609
>>9882684
It's a normal collab though. Illegal view funneling happens when the popular one starts the stream later when he/she is already present in the other person's stream.

>> No.9882955

>>9882147
Replace at least Ame with Botan, she's a way better player and, well, she can actually communicate with her teammates.
Not sure it would be a great idea though, a direct competition like that could easily end up stirring shit between the two fandoms.

>> No.9883023
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>>9882881
>Illegal view funneling happen-
HAHAHAHA, anon, plz.

There is no such thing as illegal view funneling.

>Big number > small number
That's this thread "aschente"!

>> No.9883063

>>9882955
Botan swore off serious play and if you would replace anyone with Botan it clearly should be Choco.
Ame played with Towa and Roboco in the past too, and it was lots of fun

>> No.9883149
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Korone is just too strong!

>> No.9883235

I hope Kanae does the Kuzuha boost next time. There's going to be a part two.

>> No.9883326
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9883326

Isn't this numero a bit low? I was expecting at least 40k?

>> No.9883344

>>9883326
Rabbit streaming too

>> No.9883349

>>9883326
>40k
For Akukin Minecraft? Are you drunk?

>> No.9883410

>>9883326
I was too, but the big thing is that there are a LOT of streams going on and ultimately they appear to be just setting the stage for Gura and Ina to visit later, and renovating the Aquamarine.
If Pekora wasn't streaming 40k would have been likely, but she put her stream room up really late and threw a bunch of predictions off.

>> No.9883481

>>9882881
dont reply to the samefagger schizo

>> No.9883560

>>9883349
A true "Akukin" minecraft could actually produce 40k. Not whatever they're doing while staring at a paper.

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>>9883410
>>9883326
AquaMarine already has more views than Pekora, despite starting one hour later and having a smaller peak and smaller avg ccv. Yt ccv is shit.

>> No.9883768

>>9883676
>Yt ccv is shit.
While that's true regular churn can easily explain that.
Minecraft is something you can "listen to" while doing something else on the computer while the game Pekora is playing is more liekly to have people tuned in and actually watching the gameplay

It all, of course, hinges on the beliefs
1) Youtube doesn't count an "tabbed out" window as a CCV
2) Youtube counts a "tabbed in" window after some time of inactivity as a new view

>> No.9883785

I'm gonna sleep, and thread is gonna end soon. So, I'm gonna pull this one out.

What are your predictions for wave 3 nijiEN? If my calculations is true, they'll probably try to fit them in this month instead of next month since JP 6 is gonna hit on october. It kinda fits the timeline too, where wave 2 debuts two months after wave 1 and then there's the nijiEN collab tomorrow. Don't put 150% of your trust on my predictions though, I was the anon who predicted that EN 2 would drop on the last week of July.

>> No.9883811

>>9883676
Yea, and I'm an advocate for calling it shot, but I'm still putting numbers down with the assumption that that's what's going to be displayed after YT's 'cilling' occurs, as are all guesses in the thread.

>> No.9883818

>>9883785
It's going to top out at 15k just like wave 2

>> No.9883820

>>9883676
Another example oft his this is Gura's recent unarchived karaoke. That had 260k views with 41k CCV in 2 hours. This basically means she cycyled through her CCV more than 6 times.

>> No.9883941

>>9882881
bro, i just think illegal view funneling is a funny phrase. it's not something anyone really cares about... (should care about)

>> No.9883953
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9883953

>>9883768
Youtube doesnt count you as a new view if you refresh or skip through or come back later the same day to watch the rest of the stream. It just adds to your total watch time.
You'll only count twice if you watch the full length of it, and still to a daily limit (I think it was 5, but as you need to watch the whole length, this is only relevant to short vids).

>> No.9883985

>>9883785
Anniversary period is over for EN myth, and there's not that much events from both sides other than that nijiark but that event is only for JPs. Then, there's TTRPG that Mori hinted earlier for next week and probably Ame in the news. If anything, as long as their debuts doesn't overlap with HoloEN's big events, it might attract more viewers than wave 1 and wave 2 for debut.

>> No.9884041

>>9883785
where is JP-6 coming in october thing coming from?

>> No.9884054
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9884054

"Illegal view funneling" is just another way of saying "the king being merciful and sharing his bread with the people".

>> No.9884087

>>9883785
isn't wave3 the male wave or am I mixing things up? if it is it could lead to 1 of 2 things, 1 being move views due to it being new or 2 being lower views since outside of a few male streamers who adopted an avatar I can't think of successful male en vtubers

>> No.9884152
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9884152

If you all guys think about it: Sana numbers are not THAT bad if you think about what RatGirl, Kiara and Luna are pulling in this particular slot.

They are all just dumb for going head to head with the whole royalty

>> No.9884208

>>9884152
Oh look , Towa isn't streaming today so its Luna's turn to embarrass en

>> No.9884245

>>9884087
Wave 4 is males. Wave 3 is the one with the loli? Witch in it.

>> No.9884262

>>9884041
November and December is too late. It's not gonna be on December due to events/Holofes. November is Holofes training arc/Schoolfestival/Sportfestival thing idk which one I forgot. So October is the month they could pull a JP debut if they want the new members to join in the events after their collab ban.

>>9884087
Wave 3 is another female wave. Models are already there. Male waves is gonna be next year.

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>>9884208
Actually it's Moona making them all look like chumps

>> No.9884341

>>9884288
Oh, an archived karaoke. THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO, RISU ARHG. Stupid treerat and wasted potential.

>> No.9884354

>>9884262
>>9884245
i'm going to say it'll be similar numbers to wave 2 then. also, holo en1 have the new costumes which could be coming out soon so that might drop at a similar time

>> No.9884358

>>9884288
Fuck it's all JP song. How did it still get 6.5k? I didn't tune in because I knew she'd be average in singing them. Not the quality I was expecting like her english karaokes.

>> No.9884446
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9884446

WHO WOULD WIN THIS BATTLE TO THE DEATH!?!?!

>THE MOST CELEBRATED NIJIEN DEBUT, THE GREATEST APEX PLAYER OF ALL DEBUTANTS, AN APEX PREDATOR CHAMPION OF ALL TOURNAMENTS PLAYING HER SIGNATURE GAME BOOSTED BY SOME VERY ILLEGAL VIEW FUNNELING BY THE PRINCE OF PRINCES, LORD OF LORDS, SECOND ONLY TO KUZUHA
>one meek south eastern white asian girl humming some tunes

THE ANSWER WILL ANGER, CONFUSE, BAFFLE AND BEAT YOU WITH JUMPER CABLES!

>> No.9884474

>>9884262
Why the assumption there'll be a JP gen 6?

>> No.9884504

>>9884446
>illegal Pekora leeching

>> No.9884508

>>9884358
the stream is kino
even suisei watching the stream

>> No.9884632

>>9875902
it's also missing nimu, she had 50k

>> No.9884645
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On the smaller size utau.
Hachi's still continuing her incline.
Think it's the first time she passed 5k and it's a guerilla stream, close to 5.4k now.

Also, Tamaki 12k for a call in + 3D announcement stream.

>> No.9884699
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9884699

>>9884645
Gotta give it to Tamaki: her hard works surely pays off, she's always in the big league range of numbers
>pic related
Very good company

>> No.9884724

>>9884645
expected more from Temaki

>> No.9884752

>>9884358
JP songs during JP prime time, might have something to do even if most comments were EN and ID.
Also, she started with Hololive songs, from Suisei and Towa, it's just a level below an actual collab as far as fan pleasers go.

>> No.9884843

>>9884724
It's a stupidly busy night, a lot of Tamaki's most popular friends are streaming too.
12k for this out of nowhere is super good.

>> No.9884852

>Pekora is nearing the 3 promised hours and spaghetting the game hard
WHO WANT TO BET SHE'LL MAKE THIS ANOTHER 10H GAME?!?!

>> No.9884868

>>9884508
Suisei has also noticed Umisea and is thinking about a Space team.

>> No.9884897

>>9884504
Kek
>>9884852
No, moona is waiting for their weekly discord sex

>> No.9885014

>>9884868
>Hoshimachi Suisei
>Moona Hoshinova
>Oozora Subaru
>Tokino Sora

That would be it, right? Also, Goddesses team

>Inugami Korone
>Ookami Mio
>Shirakami Fubuki
>Mori "Shinigami" Calliope

>> No.9885175

>>9884868
>>9885014
What about Ame? I sure hope she won't get bundled with apexfags and play apex 24/7 to meet her arch nemesis, the ha ha dragon in a hal custom.

>> No.9885252

>>9885175
>What about Ame?
Medical team

>Choco-sensei (nurse)
>Amelia Watson (doctor)
>Uruha Rushia (necromancer)
>Amane Kanata (angel)

>> No.9885254

>>9885014
Space team would be Sana, Moona, Suisei, Iofi and maybe Astel. I doubt the last three would have a problem with a guy in the team, idk about Sana.

>> No.9885302

>>9885014
Heaven and Hell singing trio
>Kanata
>Towa
>Irys

>> No.9885336

>>9885302
Ayame?

>> No.9885405

Though it's not the usual numbers topic, I'd like that it devolved to team placing if upper management force more group pairings/dynamics according to their lore. Next one is probably Holobirds.

>> No.9885489

>>9885405
>if upper management force more group pairings/dynamics according to their lore
They won't

>Next one is probably Holobirds.
They might, but mostly because of natural affinity

>> No.9885596
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9885596

>THIS WEEK TOP 10 SO FAR
Royalty till the eye can see
>plus Nene and some tanned Demiurge Expy

>> No.9885603

>>9884868
>>9885014
>Hoshimachi Suisei
>Moona Hoshinova
>Hoshikawa Sara
>Hoshifuri Iku
>Hoshina Suzu
>Hoshino Charlotte
>Tomoki Hoshiko

Take your pick after the first 3

>> No.9885627

>>9885603
All with 星?

>> No.9885710

>>9885596
nimu humilliated kuzuha but she is not here somehow

>> No.9885881

>>9885710
Nah, let's not put Nimu there. She's not up there because of her own merits. People raid her on twitch for those glorious SUPER ILLEGAL view funneling. After that, connections. Surprising that the ES community could contend with JP when watching streamers, but gotta hand it to that greg guy beating Jun of Japan.

>> No.9885935

>Miko karaoke not even 10k
I thought she's top holo numberbros?

>> No.9885967

>>9885596
About Ame's smol 3D holomyth anniversary VOD views. It already passes Marine's official 3D anniversary which has almost double the CCV and 2 months head start.

>> No.9886037

>>9885967
>Illegal worldwide views.

>> No.9886068

>>9885881
>Nah, let's not put Nimu there. She's not up there because of her own merits. People raid her on twitch for those glorious SUPER ILLEGAL view funneling.
you say this, but the moment gura streams on twitch and big streamers raid her for le memes everyone will say it's legal

>> No.9886074

>>9885710
but if she didn't have twitch raids a pc a house arms legs blablabla afghanistan would she still get NUMBERS?

>> No.9886291

>>9886037
Exactly! How can Gura get such high VOD views when she only gets 2/3rds the CCV of Pekora?!
IT JUST ISN'T FAIR I SAY!

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9886293

>>9867021
>Ollie and Connor are seen as apex partners
COPE
Ollie is a proud members of the 93%

>> No.9886295

>>9885627
That i could find and would maybe agree, yes.

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>>9886293

>> No.9886381

>>9885710
>nimu humilliated kuzuha but she is not here somehow
if I can find the source for her numbers, I can put her there.

PLayboard link?

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>>9886068
>>9886074
not in this case, look at those pretty normal new outfir reveal numbers
https://twitchtracker.com/nimuvt/streams/43705647341

She even played her card too soon at 29 min, if she teased the outfit more, could have passed 50k.

>> No.9886484

>>9885881
>>9886068
dumb samefag

>> No.9886664

>>9885935
Miko is Noel tier singer,anon...

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