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Hi I'm Cover and I let one streamer create and self-fund the big 1 year anniversary stream while I take half the money

>> No.9694180

>>9694037
Holomyth are cowards for not going indie together.

>> No.9694295

>>9694037
Based Cover, they know they can do that and get away with it.

>> No.9694320 [DELETED] 

This just adds to the many reasons I hate how Holobronies continue to suck off Yagoo

>> No.9694363
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Based. Imagine paying for anything when your employees and their simps will happily cover all the costs while you reap all the profits.

Hololive is peak capitalism, where both employee and customer pay you to do nothing but continue existing

>> No.9694375

>>9694037
also I have tons of managers whose only job is to have a twitter presence. Not actually help or organize any crossovers with the girls.
Also I'll say 'No' to any crossover you will want to do.

>> No.9694406

>>9694037
I mean their brand is 100% why they are so big. That said, Cover should be more upfront that all they provide is the name, if the the HoloENs actually expected Cover to do anything for them.

>> No.9694434

>>9694037
I really hope EN all leave hololive

>> No.9694568

>>9694037
At least they know how to mute a singer's mic before they lip sync a prerecording.

>> No.9694680

How would Hololive change if it became a workers' co-op democratically managed by all members?

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>>9694568
I need to think about this deeper. What if she intentionally scuffed SSS to spite Cover?

>> No.9695211

You gotta wonder how long she had been working on this.
>Ina, Kiara and Calli had vive headsets and other equipment ordered and sent to them by Ame
>Ame hired the rigger
>Ame hired a guy(team?) to create a VR world
She doesn't even turn on superchats most of the time. She used her own money to help others.

>> No.9695347

>>9695211
one dude did all the assets, one dude did the rigging.
Power of twitter artists

>> No.9695400

>>9694363
>Hololive is peak capitalism
More like feudalism, Cover is basically collecting tithes from their vassals, and the simps are the peasants.

>> No.9695443

>>9694680
The problem is that one or two people would do everything and everyone else would just continue like they are now.

>> No.9695467

>>9695211
I will say that the girls bought their own sets, but Ame is queen for helping them figure out what to buy and how to set it up as well as possibly getting in contact with creators to set up the world.
Kiara mentioned a while back on a (members?) stream that Ame was helping her buy gear so she could do her own smol Kiara. Looks like they were all doing it.

>> No.9695510

>>9694037
You wouldn't be watching her if it were not for Cover.

>> No.9695517

>>9695030
Would be hilariously based, but it probably was just a scuff. The stream was still Kino though.

>> No.9695528

Is this your first Holo anything?

>> No.9695607

>>9695443
kek this

>> No.9695917

>>9694037
So why do all of them, including Kiara, thanked and praised the management? Is this a case of Stockholm syndrome?

>> No.9695981

>>9694180
Gura probably will suicide if you tear her from Hololive and tell her to go back to her indie days

>> No.9695994

Cover is proof that Capitalism is retarded
They basically brainwashed everyone into thinking they are necessary when they literally do nothing while taking the majority of the profit because they call themselves boss

>> No.9696007

>>9695917
no one would've watched them if they were indies

>> No.9696054

>>9695211
2 weeks.
https://twitter.com/SeafoamBoi/status/1437216529209249792?s=20

>> No.9696107

>>9695994
It's a label that gets you off the ground running. People will watch the newest streamers and it gets more eyes on you. Are you gonna sit here and tell me you didn't watch the EN2 premiers? Or that you watch a ton of random 2-view premiers?

>> No.9696168

>>9695917
Cover still literally owns their models, even if it's technically just fanwork based on their models

>> No.9696210

>>9695994
>you must be 18 or older to post on 4chan

>> No.9696214

>>9695917
They are generic thank yous based on etiquette, are you honestly one of those people that think every time someone thanks you or appreciates they actually mean it? The ones that they truly appreciate are the ones they shouted out. Kiara praised her JP producers especially, also immediate manager.

>> No.9696357

>>9695981
she's drooling to be senzawa again but she knows the model is big part of why she's popular

>> No.9696474

I can't even imagine how this board would react the day that Cover announces Holomyth 3D

>> No.9696481 [DELETED] 

>>9695400
End-game Capitalism is simply a return to Feudalism. It's why Libertarians are so retarded.

>> No.9696494

>>9696214
thanks for the feedback, lol

>> No.9696558

>>9696214
>They are generic thank yous based on etiquette, are you honestly one of those people that think every time someone thanks you or appreciates they actually mean it
Or they could've, you know, not mentioning Cover or their managers at all if they don't appreciate them. It's not like it's mandatory, and neither is Kiara some sort of super tactful person to follow proper etiquette

>> No.9696745

>>9696357
Going by how she was during some of her final days as S******, I kinda doubt that...

>> No.9697064 [DELETED] 

>>9694180
They were all independent for years. Clearly they didn't enjoy it enough to stay independent.
Accept that these 5 young millionaires are happy with their situation.
>>9696481
>nooooooooo you can't enjoy getting rich off your talent, the comodification of workers is dehumanizing
eat shit, commie

>> No.9697062

>>9694037
>while I take half the money
They aren't even doing a good job at that. Releasing 1 sweatshirt and 5 cups for anni merch for the entire group instead of individual merch packs like every other fucking girl.
Literally throwing away money and preventing us from getting worthwhile merch dedicated to our oshis.
Worst business decision ever wtf

>> No.9697292 [DELETED] 

>>9697064
They aren't millionaires yet

>> No.9699000 [DELETED] 

>>9696481
Yep. The whole C19 thing was a huge step towards neo-serfdom too. Only way out is fascism

>> No.9701162

>>9695510
Must be nice sucking Cover's dick.

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>>9694037
Why yes, I did skin myself to fund it all, how can you tell?

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9705833

>Fans asking Cover to fund it? Haaa...Guess we have no choice but to raise our company cut by 10% and use half of it to hire more staff just to manage this aspect.
>But don't worry girls, as long as you stay below the remaining 5% budget, submit paperwork, and attend many long meetings with our new holo events funding managers to ensure its being spent wisely, you don't have to pay anything! Of course, you still got to do the planning, though.
>W-what do you mean you rather have the 10% back? Don't you want Cover to pay for your stuff?

>> No.9707050

>>9694037
I will always be amazed at how you newfags keep thinking it's news that the talents get made to pay for anything that isn't an official company function.

>> No.9707132

>>9696745
what do you mean by that?

>> No.9709059

>>9694180
Going indie worked out very well for Coco.

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>> No.9709802

>>9694037
Welcome to all media companies. Your favorite singer/artist always gets the short end of the stick against their company. You wouldn't believe how many popular singers/artist are broke as fuck.

>> No.9709819

>>9709059

even though she was basically fired, it actually gave her the better part of the deal

>> No.9709840 [DELETED] 

>>9696481
wrong libertarians are based,
and feudalism is good,

stay seething anarkiddy/commietard/stormfag

>> No.9709866 [DELETED] 

>>9696481
i don't support libertarianism anymore because apparently their ideology would allow some one like you to live in their society,

while if it was up to me I would castrate then execute anyone who thinks like you. so I am definitely not a libertarian some people don't deserve freedom especially not statists

>> No.9709883

>>9707050
holoshit was always a black company,

support real vtubers like eilene, who are anti corperate.

>> No.9710627

>>9694680
Last I saw cover has 100s of employees with the talent making at most 1/6 of that total, probably less as their technically contractors and not employees

So probably either not well or not in the talents favour

>> No.9710713

>>9709883
There are more mentions of Eilene being better than corpos and mentioned in posts shitting on others, than posts discussing her content, so she must not be that interesting

>> No.9710720 [DELETED] 

>>9709866
Read Hans-Hermann Hoppe, because that's exactly what Hoppean Libertarianism is.

>> No.9711338

>>9710713
thats because her discusions are on /jp/ fucking newfag, you realize eilene still holds the record for having the longest vtuber thread in 4chan history right? like 5 months straight with her content

just go back.

>> No.9711403

>>9709059
I take it you haven't seen her supa numbers lately? She's no longer number 1, but she now rakes in 70% of her earnings before tax instead of 30-20%.

>> No.9712509

>>9711338
Thread was so slow it lasted for 5 months kek

>> No.9712568

>>9711403
>35% instead of 70%
not really that bad, Cover only takes haft of their income

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9712639

Nice "legitimate criticism" thread you have going here, antihugboxkeks

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9712704

Hi I'm Cover and without me these whores would get less than 1/4 of their current numbers, suck my dick and shut the fuck up nigger

>> No.9714022

>>9712704
The doctor did nothing wrong.

>> No.9714285

>>9694037
Omega can go fuck himself

>>9709802
And people wonder why the idol industry has such a high suicide rate

>>9694680
Communist utopias inevitably devolve into one tyrant taking charge of everything, so it's back to 0.

>> No.9714330

>>9710627
That's because hololive is only a small part of cover.

>> No.9714358

>>9695347
>Ame literally went on twitter and asked for someone to make 5 models and a rigging system for them
>pls andastand we can't fix irys's face we are small company
>Pls andastand we can't fix anya's face we are small company
>Pls andastand we can't fix Roberu's face we are small company

Cover is a black company

>> No.9714357

>>9711338
how does a thread get so slow that it can last 5 months?

>> No.9715918

>>9714358
Can't disagree.

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