/#/ - Numbers thread

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Previous thread >>9537305

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ccv + sc
>https://piyo.chats.ninja/ (RIP)
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

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JESUS CHRIST HOW LONG SQURE ENIX WANTED THIS TO BE

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30k easily surpassed.

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home sweet home

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VOMS:
[EN] So you guys would thought as the large number of males viewers, there would be more female appliants? No the male: female ratio is around 5:3

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Kanata and Towa are still doing aerobic poses to about 14k more people.

Square had some weird requirements for this promotion.

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30 minutes outfit reveal? What are they gonna do with the bonus 30 minutes after 9.30pm jst?

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>>9580847
troons are taking over

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40k and it«s actually picking up speed

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>>9580903
Other streams gonna start.
Also, go Nene go! I don't think she'll hit 50k, but she's making a food push to it.

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>>9580879
>Square had some weird requirements for this promotion.
strange, Kiara's "Tales of" streams were ok

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>>9580964
that is just a game stream
this is some of those werid promotion where they can show the game

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>>9580948
If she milks this for 4 more minutes, but her feet are already on the screen

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>>9580948
Apologise

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>>9581008
50k get!
Oh, this outfit is pretty cute.

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50k with knees on screen

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>>9581001
>that is just a game stream
i guess you did nt watch
she had ~5 streams and played game only 1ce

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>>9581069
Gladly, Nene really dragged the tease out, good for her.
Rigging on the hair is a bit off though.

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Nene provided an ABSOLUTE LESSON on how to properly fill the time to maximize the audience.

She clearly timed herself to do the full reveal at exactly 20 minutes and slowly teased for some 5 minutes before that to make sure people would tune in and stay in.
>P-Polka...

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>>9581174
yeah the coloring on top of her head is weird

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This is a hololive with Kiryu Coco. Watching hololive without Coco is like eating Curry Rice without using any plates. Completely baseless. No different from pathetic Nijisanji dogs who eat off the floor.

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>>9581101
i tought you meant the alst one.

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>>9580847
How many of those were raitos? 100% those nigs just want to fuck the vom girls.

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>>9581242
Djwhhssnskssm please don't remind me, just remembering that reveal fills me with depression. Which I guess is fitting given she premiered a depressing song right after, but ugh.
>>9581282
It's the part where the hair parts at the top. It has a bit of that 'mask' effect that Anya has, but not as bad.

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VOMS
[EN] brought it down to around 10 people, and did an interview to 2 people
[EN] 1 female, 1 male member
[EN] I do glad there's male members

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I remembered Toko's SC was 28k for an outfit reveal too, but I remembered that she stacked birthday+og song buff

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>>9581420
Thanks for the updates

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>>9580964
Different companies anon. Tales is bandai namco.

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>>9581302
Go back to the discord hole from whence you came.

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This stream really highlights how awful looking Polka's new outfit is. Though if she got a hat she could have looked like a Touhou.

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5th gen together passed 52k, but the other streams will start soon.

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OK, that was genius, Nene brough the gen5 and inclined after the reveal

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Polka's new outfit is numbers poison. It's ugly af.

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Good chemist

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>>9581779
Agreed, seems like the clothes some elderly barely lucid old lady would throw before the weekly supermarket run

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>>9581823
Meant to >>9581768

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>>9581779
Why can't Selejo have this sort of camaraderie...

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>>9581779
Lamy, Botan and Nene look like they got younger, meanwhile Polka aged 10 years.

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how do we save Mel?

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>>9581914
Having one member rarely stream doesn't help.
Makes me wonder how will Hololive operate if a new gen had a member that rarely streamed like Ayame. Gen 1 and 2 members have better group pairings outside of their gens than within.

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>>9581985
Smack her and tell her not to stream that Uber debuff game. God I hate shin-chan so much from a numbers and viewer perspective. It's such a BORING game to watch.

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>>9581985
>playing ShinShan, the numbers malaria
>Over KanaTowa and outfit reveal
It's like she hates numbers

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>>9581985
Mel deserves her shit numbers today for willingly streaming over Nene's costume reveal and picking a god awful debuff game that half a dozen Holos already played.
Nene is her friend too so idk wtf she was thinking.

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>>9582127
Summer's just about over too so it's a double debuff, it's like playing a game about Christmas holidays during summer.

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Props to Nene, timed the thing for a peak on her solo reveal and a second peak on the group thing at exactly 30 minutes in

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Mel is the anti numberfag

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$13k for an outfit reveal. Pretty good so far. Lamy earned $14.4k. Truly the queen and princess of numbers.

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and the siphon begins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K1WZ5Sfgw0

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VOMS
last time was
>5** applications
this time
>3** applications
>~70 good enough to check "gameplay videos"
"[EN ] brought it down to around 10 people >>9581420
>2 ppl people were interviewed

First new member
>VOMS members inspired by Pokemons
>new member is water type
>[EN] she has a screw on her head, and will die if it is removed
>[EN] she like playing mystery games and story main games
>[EN] this girl is more clam
>[EN] she's seems good at those puzzle games and games that need da brain

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>>9582065
Nothing's really stopping the other 4 from having chemistry outside of Kohaku but it doesn't seem any of them care that much about the group anymore...
Agreed on Gen 1 having to be herded together to act as a group but Gen 2 is decently close despite Ayame barely streaming, they're probably better than Gen 4 in that respect.

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>>9582199
Reminder that Mel is the one who leaked that it's not a Cover mandate for holos to end their streams for costumes/3D events, everyone just does it out of respect (except for Mel).

She said she didn't need to end her MC stream for Flare's 3D live, but she's ending it anyways because she wants to watch it too. She then proceeded to stream Minecraft over Towa's 3D live a day after.

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Can someone explain to me why the worst EN Gen 2 is the most popular?
Everything I've seen of Kronii has been unbearable to watch. She has about as much charisma and skill as an entertainer as an autistic child you forced on stage.
She makes Mori seem hyperactive in comparison.

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>>9580847
>>9581420
>>9582234
Why post it here?

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>>9582532
>autistic child
So you don't understand one of the reasons that makes Hololive members standout over the others huh?

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>>9582593
NTA, but debuts are usually the biggest numbers vtubers get. It's just that no one here knows shit about VOMS and their numbers to comment.

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>>9582532
Kronii ticked a lot of boxes right from the start. Her voice is attractive to listen to, and her gameplay for 12 minutes was pretty fun on a pretty good timeslot. She had all the markings of a good post-debut stream whereas Sana started with a boring ol Holoscopes when it should've start 2 weeks later after acquiring a decent fanbase.

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>>9582532
>most popular
SEX design + SEX voice + best stream times for EOPs + good kayfabe + naturally funny
The rest of your post doesn't belong in a numbers thread.

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>>9582659
More like most here don't know Japanese to begin with

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>>9582593
Gyari threw some intresting numbers

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>>9582532
Why come to the numbers thread to expose that you don't understand what makes people popular?

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>>9582873
because I want to understand?
I think I made my intentions very obvious.

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>>9582532
she brings casuals

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>>9582725
Did anyone even play 12 minutes before her?
I've seen a big influx of game streams on Holo and Niji of it a few days after hers, but hadn't even heard of the game before that, thought it had been out for a few days.

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>>9582234
>VOMS members inspired by Pokemons
2nd member Daimoji Ryuugon!!
>[EN] Earth-Dragon type
>[EN] his identity is the star on his nose, so will die if it goes away
>[EN] he's a bright guy, and plays a lot of FPS and action, sandbox games (likes ARK, Tarkov)

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Top daily so far, missing Ina unarchived Karaoke with 20.3k for #3.

Pekora just started her second round of Jump King, let's see how high she goes before midnight JST

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>>9582997
Uops, scratch that #9, forgot to delete

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>>9582925
>casuals
i guess /vt/ is full of "casuals"

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>>9582921
Imo you'd probably be better served in her split thread but just to reiterate since it's already been answered, it's a mix of design, voice, and being having a personality that seems to have meshed well with those factors.

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>>9582939
There might've been some indies I don't know about playing it but I'm fairly certain she's the first big-name vtuber to stream it at least. Actually started the 12 minutes trend amongst both holos and nijis.

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>>9582939
>I've seen a big influx of game streams on Holo and Niji of it a few days after hers
with holos it makes sense since:
>one of them asks for permissions for a game
>other holos check out the new game they got permissions for
dunno about nijis in this case

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>>9582925
>Frostpunk, 12 minutes, Stories Untold
>casuals
Kronii's been the most diverse and different from the EN side right away. Besides what others already said, she hit it right out of the gate by picking games that aren't typical for their branch and hasn't done any zatsudans at all besides debut and the superchat streams.

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>>9583067
It is, at least 80% of people in this place watch nothing but Holo EN

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Holy cow, 7 holo streams just started all at once and Nene ended so time to see who the viewers flock to.

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some heavy hitters at this time for Holo, be interesting to see the split.

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>>9582939
No one in Hololive had played the game before her, so it had a huge novelty buff, plus the theme worked VERY well with her lore with the time rewinding gimmick.

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>>9583152
source: my ass

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>>9582921
ask on her split thread with that exact same post anon

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>>9583159
>>9583157
Pekora will get her regular 25k, maybe a little buff for being bullied by the game

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>>9582532
She goes out of her way to appeal to the lowest common denominator

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>>9582532
>autistic child you forced on stage.
Somehow Kronii's popularity makes you more confused than Mumei's? Feels like your description fits her a lot more.

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>>9583166
Then we can add that she has the power to popularize games among other Vtubers, at least in the first week.

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>>9583291
nta

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Polka...

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>>9583067
yes
that is correct

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>>9583347
Stop it. Stop. Please. It hurts to look at.

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>>9583067
And redditors

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>>9583136
>people just watch her for her design and droll voice
>think it's because of the game choice
sorry anon but you're watchin kronii along with EN casuals
you may be hardcore but everyone else with you isn't it

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>The King enters the arena

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>>9583194
Source: look at the fucking catalog and the speed of global compared to every other thread

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>>9583166
>the most hyped member gets big numbers during FIRST gaming stream
>"damn, this must be the game.."

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>>9583423
>while the Queen finishes her warmip and starts playing

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Time to watch cute bunny suffering in that game for 12 hours again, shit's gonna be fun. Maybe she could even break her usual 25K barrier, the last stream was great.

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>>9583423
It's another scrim stream with the team and these usually peak around 30-31k.

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>>9583490
Well, Pekora was also like the 2nd Holo I saw playing it, then Roberu, Aruran and Mori so far unless ive missed another.

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>>9583421
look at this Big boy in his hipster pants.

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>>9583490
Hey, I only said it was a novelty buff, not that the game itself was buff. The fact that numbers fell off for the game after Pekora and Kronii finished it was what I expected, as the game drags on a TON if you go into it blind. Of course, it being the first game she played also buffed her numbers.

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>>9583569
Irys played it too

>>9583561
Pekora actually got 26k in the 11th hour of her previous Jump King stream.
Like, literally, the 11th hour lol.

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>>9583470
>globalfags watching streams
good one
but yeah this place is eop central

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>>9583470
>global
during Kronii's streams her /general/ turns into /global/

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>>9583605
uh huh okay
go back to facebook for your cringe training

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>>9583637
better than SEAnig central i guess.

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>>9583609
sry i just wanted to throw that somewhere

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>>9583733
miss
dont have1

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>>9583690
Gods her general is actually ridiculous in how many threads they've already gone through. It's also filled to the brim with SSSSEEEEEEXXXXXX spam.
Well, Suichan pulling better numbers than Kiara for the same stream gives me a bit of a chuckle, but I'm not surprised at all (12k and climbing). Nips are far more interested in jRPGs after all. Also, Aqua getting 19k in a cooking stream, expected numbers.

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>>9583470
It seems like there are less Holofans in this board because I keep seeing hate threads made about every Holo everyday.Its probably the 20 Nijiniggers who are spanming every single thread though.

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>>9583814
oh
you migrated to reddit so quickly
I'm proud of you anon

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>>9583873
miss

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If Kiara hadn't been screeching and screaming, she'd have better retention, I had to mute every time. Fucking annoying. when will she realize that and stop being a stubborn chicken.

And the MEMEMEMEME was no longer a meme on that stream

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>>9583831
Has Aqua ever done a live camera stream like this before? I wonder how many of those viewers are there just hoping to get a tenth-of-a-second glimpse of a bit of skin from her arm.

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>>9583831
She's doubling Kiara's numbers and she's not even the official ambassador anointed by Bandai Namco.

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>>9583831
Do you think Kiara would have better numbers if she also just did her JRPG streams for the JP audience or would the numbers just be around the same?

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>>9583938
>to get a tenth-of-a-second glimpse of a bit of skin from her arm.
Gotta say there is not a lot of appeal, Haachama did it recently and to pretty much no controversy

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The difference in CCV between hololive and nijisanji right now

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>>9583831
>Suichan>Kiara
>JPs like JRPGs more
nta, but i expected at least 6k
bw she even got PS5 from bandai namco for this

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>>9583970
Her numbers won't change. JOPs don't watch Kiara.
Suisei isn't getting good numbers because of ToA, it's because she's Suisei and getting 10k is like eating breakfast for her recently.

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>>9583970
Her Japanese pitch/accent is tolerable than in english, so yes, she'd have better audience

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>>9583932
>when Kiara will stop being herself?

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>>9584042
Niji numbers right now are particularly good on the long tail. Lots of 5k, 6k

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>>9583745
yeah its depressing to see the state of chuuba discussion on /jp/

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>>9583970
>>9584077
>Her numbers won't change. JOPs don't watch Kiara.
they doesnt know.

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>>9584116
is this good numbers for Lauren

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>>9584222
ESL-chama...

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>>9584116
Here you go again with your outdated numbers

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>>9584116
They're probably talking about right now.
>https://holodex.net/
Switch to Nijidex and have a look. There's like more than a dozen pokemon unite streams right now and the Nijis on the bottom are suffering.
The top 2 are Kuzuha at 28k and Fuwa at 5.5k.
Saku dropped from 6k to 3k.
Ririmi from 5k to 2k.
Lain is at 700...

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Did someone wrap up? Pekora started inclining again out of nowhere and it's not about tab ins, nothing particular hapenning in the stream now

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>>9584481
Why are they suffering?

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>>9584521
A bunch of teams are scrimming Pokemon Unite right now so there's 10+ Niji streams of the same games. Most of these Nijis can usually get 2-3k, but they're getting less than 1k right now.

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I'm proud to say that I contributed to the 2.2k haachama made just by singing her intro over and over again a hundred times.
Redalice himself also threw an aka

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>>9584481
God damn....

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>>9584507
They gained, Watame also started

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>>9584602
And? What's the source of their so-called suffering if they're just prepping for the tournament?

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>>9584625
>so-called suffering
Bad. Numbers.
Obvious enough yet? You're in a fucking numbers thread.

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I swear to god this algo AI drives me infucking sane

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>>9584655
Oh, so you're just a schizo numbrain who's making a normal practice into some kind of drama.

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>>9584199
you can't expect anything good from jp, they only mod there is the nijinigger

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>>9584481
man that is rough but i guess expected

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>>9584708
Get the fuck out of numbers thread if you don't care about numbers retard.

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>>9584708
No, you're just a fucking retard who can't grasp the context of "suffering" in a numbers thread.
It's obvious they're not actually suffering on stream, idiot.
It's literally just you.

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>>9583938
Uh, of she has it hasn't been anytime recent I can tell you that much.
Imo, the sheer novelty that the 'gamer maid's is making omurice is enough to entice her viewers to tune in.
It turned out...not terrible by the looks of it.
>>9583970
Maybe, but the problem is would the JP audience really care for her? I'm not sure what the opinion of he is among the normal JP holowatchers.
>>9584048
Thats silly, you should have expected at least 10k as this Anon is right about Suisei's recent numbers-> >>9584077
Her getting more than that is a testament to the fact that unsurprisingly, JP audiences like jRPGs more than EN does, or at least the EN audience that can tolerate Kiara.

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It’s weird how niji KR has started to incline lately, it’s strange when you saw them struggling a couple of weeks prior.

Might be due to some holo korean fans discovering more vtubers, also seen an increase in Korean vtuber accounts too.

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>>9584481
isn't lain a new niji member?

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>>9584807
kek, that "Knock channel" likely leaking from both sides with tags. Which site is this?

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>>9584808
Yes, I just listed her by name since she's someone this thread knows. There's like a dozen Nijis getting around what she's getting.
Poor Levi has 150 viewers scrimming after 2 hours.

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>>9584801
Have they?
most are still under 200 viewers

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>>9582997
It is missing Ina's karaoke. It is weird, because they didnt miss inas collab with irys on the other hand

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>>9584801
>incline lately
Anon, they're still below <200. If you're saying an incline from normal 70 views to 100+ views, that's a lil bit uhh. They're still stuck in the overseas niji curse, unless someone is willing to clip you, then they won't get far ahead no matter how hard they try. Clippers are the best advertisers and keeps fans retention in check.

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>>9584715
there were some sparks of decent discussion before /vt/ was a thing but afterwards? the few sane posters either moved here or left the site competly leaving back the shizoids to post retarded shit at each other
oh well. just saw that Mori is going to stream some doom eternal tomorrow.... one of her first streams was doom eternal and she is still not done? wtf

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>>9585162
>one of her first streams was doom eternal and she is still not done? wtf
She stopped playing the game for like 10 months, no joke lol.

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>>9585214
Oh gods yea, the fact that she's finally actually finishing games she starts is well, it's a testament that she's at least getting better as a streamer. Though she does have a bad habit of not checking how long the expected playtime of some games are, leading to stupid long streams to finish because she proclaimed that the stream was going to be the finale.

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>>9585214
>>9585298
eternal permissions are like deat hstranding permissions you need to ask them 1 week in advance for each stream.

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There's like 51 niji streams right now

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>>9585214
i only watched part 1 since gave EN a shot before realising its not for me but did she get better at the game`? i remember it being painfull to watch her...

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>>9585354
doesnt feel like it

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>>9585504
Maybe because Kuzuha unironically has more viewers than all of them combined.
He has 33k right now and the 2nd highest is Fuwa with 5.7k.

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Nene superchat breakdown
￥ YEN 457 883128 883,128円
NT$ TWD 257 111318.00 443,233円
$ USD 32 858.48 94,338円
HK$ HKD 56 6020.69 85,110円
ユーロ EUR 12 323.00 42,057円
ウォン KRW 12 284321 26,786円
MYR MYR 22 567.00 15,039円
SGD SGD 5 172.96 14,200円
ARS ARS 10 7200.00 8,077円
PHP PHP 5 3500.00 7,718円
CA$ CAD 5 45.00 3,923円
A$ AUD 5 45.00 3,661円
£ GBP 2 10.99 1,675円
That's a lot of Taiwanese

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Haachama is going to bleed her jp viewers if she keep doing this eop pandering.

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>>9580847
If 750 applied then that means only 280 females applied. VOMs pulls in really good numbers, seems too few.

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>>9585750
nigga you are like 8 months late

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>>9585840
It wasn't this bad before.

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>>9585750
Well that's kind of expected. When Kiara and Elira do JP-only streams, they're not expecting EN viewers to stay engaged.
The problem with what Haachama is doing is this is way too early for EOP pandering. Do it during noon JST when it's around evening for NA at least.

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>>9585750
anon.... i doubt that the jp viewers that are left after her eigo week(that turned into a few months) care about that

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>>9584763
It's a number thread - a place where we pretend that vtubers who get numbers below our thought-up standard are suffering while others are prospering.

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>>9585729
my fellow EUs are slacking

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>>9585878
Introduction of EN branch has her wanting to get their numbers.

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>>9585729
There is a big VTuber following community in Japan. Moreover, both Taiwanese and Mainland CN use NT$ to SC on YT (since Chinks have to use VPN to access YT, which they usually pick TW ones), so it's understandable that NT$ will always be among the top 3-4 currencies for most Holos' SCs

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>>9585729
MYR is Malaysia right? It's pretty impressive that there's that many right after they open superchats for them. I'd be interested to see if they do it in Indonesia next and how much that will boost the ID chuuba's numbers

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>>9586402
yeah malaysian ringgit or something

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>>9585155
Some NijiKR clips are getting traction
This one has 210k views. Not huge but considering that the person clipped has way less subs than that https://youtu.be/QGpn6PxiXKk
Lee Roha from Niji KR is also feature in some popular clips
This one with 400k views https://youtu.be/Pezq4pSWxTg
And this one with 550k views https://youtu.be/ffvp4YcCDsY
I do think they're slightly inclining.

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>>9587384
>VRCgat
yeah no, that audience doesnt give a fuck about vtubers, and randos "blow up" all the time

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>>9586402
the other day some of them were sending sc to fubuki too

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>>9587538
Check what I replied to. They mentioned clippers so all I'm saying is they're getting some popular clips lately compared to nothing before.

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>>9587384
Those aren't clips from vtuber clippers tho.
Those are official uploads from an established VRchat youtuber. The uploader has 776k subs ffs lool. It's exposure, but people aren't watching them because of NijiKR.

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>>9587605
Yeah but she's in the thumbnail and she's the only person mentioned in the description of both vids. It does help with exposure unless you're arguing that the effect is totally zero.

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>>9587605
This guy has a video with Fubuki and Matsuri too that has 380k views
https://youtu.be/w7a2lrWGrvI

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>>9583842
No it's just that the threads praising holos don't get much posts whereas a post shitting on a holo gets 20 (you)s before your coffee is cold so everyone makes anti posts because that's what gets yous.

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>>9588188
Why can't they stop replying to bait threads?

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I know it’s bait but trying to break into a foreign market with Kiara with shill streams vs a popular vtuber playing a new release in a country where you have a presence already are completely different animals. Tales of is almost unknown in the English speaking world. Also ccv is not really a metric for YouTube marketing campaigns. It’s actually a terrible metric for YouTube vtubers in general that’s not what’s getting them fucking paid. I really don’t understand why people fixate on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9588268
Samefagging to bump until someone gets baited

[Anonymous No.]

>>9588268
Because they're retards
Also OP self bumping, but how much of that is happening is unknown unless you get the 30 self reply screenshot happening again.
But yes people want (you)s because it's the exact same thing as seeing your post on reddit/twitter getting upvote/likes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9588268
Because /vt/ is tourist central and still remains so 8 months after being created, not to mention there are alot of people from all over the site who come in here, most of them from slower hobbyist boards like /tg/, /co/ or /tv/ and don't understand the extreme lengths to which the /vpol/ and /qa/ residents will go to get (you)s

[Anonymous No.]

Wtf are these non numbers post? Especially that Vom debut shit, go back to your thread, you got more members to talk about now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9580694 Pepero is really #10? That's insane for somebody just passing 60k subs. I hope she keeps growing like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9588445
Case in point, look at this thread
>>9582494
And compare it to this
>>9578999

One is one of the cheapest, low quality bait thread on this site, the other shares an interesting clip about a vtuber. Now compare the difference in engagement it gets, and you know why this place feels like it's full of bait and shit

[Anonymous No.]

More and more people are turning up to watch the rabbit suffer, hovering around 30k for a while now

[Anonymous No.]

So these are the current Hololive Council sub numbers

Sana : 159k
Fauna : 247k
Kronii : 334k
Mumei : 273k
Baelz : 239k

How high do you all think their sub counts will be by the time the collab ban is over

[Anonymous No.]

>>9588359
>Tales of is almost unknown in the English speaking world.
??? Anon they have localized most mothership Tales games in English for nearly 20 years now

[Anonymous No.]

>>9588782
And it's still mostly unknown

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589005
It's nowhere near as big as Final Fantasy outside Japan, yes, but it's nowhere near THAT unknown.

[Anonymous No.]

>Today's Top 20
Gotta say Kuzuha is a HARD FUCKING CARRY, his back must be tired

[Anonymous No.]

>>9588359
You said like, 50 too many words for what could be summarized as
>SUISEI, PLEASE, STOP MOGGING KIARA! SHE'S THE AMBASSADOR FOR FUCK SAKE!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589192
idk anon, this is the first one I've ever heard of and I play my fair share of games. Albeit not many Jrpgs

[Anonymous No.]

>Today's top 15

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589296
>6
how's the niji knghtgirl that high?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589296
Nijisanji is pathetic

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589296
Where did you find Ina's karaoke numbers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589395
Use my script mate, I promise you it's safe

>OPen browser
>navigate to https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/archives-ranking?date=2021-09-11
>Press F12
>Paste this in the console
>$('.live-thumbnail img').width(140); $('.live-area').append('<button class="deleteButton">Delete</button>'); $('.deleteButton').click(function() { $(this).parents('.live-area').remove();}); $('.live-area:first-child').parent().before('<button class="renumberButton">Renumber</button>'); $('.renumberButton').click(function() { $('.renumberButton, .deleteButton').remove(); $('.live-area').each(function(index, el) { $(this).append('<div style="border-left: 1px solid black;height: 90px;padding: 32px 10px 32px 21px;margin-left: 10px;" class="position live-viewers-width-80 font-weight-bold text-center my-auto mr-sm-2 mr-1">' + (index + 1) + "</div>")});});
>Delete the unwanted
>Press Renumber

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589432
>Where did you find Ina's karaoke numbers?
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/4I68uOSjNBA

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589296
Wow 1 niji female make it to top 20 how? Is it baseball? She good at apex? Must be 3D something

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589432
That'd be off of Holostats : https://holo.poi.cat/stream/4I68uOSjNBA
>>9589365
Tales of's first real 'big break' into the West would have been with Tales of Symphonia on the Gamecube, when they actually fucking ADVERTISED THE GODDAMN GAMES.
https://www.vgchartz.com/article/448073/tales-of-series-sales-figures-released-by-bandai-namco/
The series had always been niche prior to that, but it had been around.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589572
Yea so many companies don't advertize their shit and wonder why it doesn't sell.
IF PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW YOUR GAME EXISTS IT CANNOT BE BOUGHT
It's something a lot of companies seem to forget now.

Want to know why FF7 sold insanely well in the West? Square went all in on advertising and it paid back many times over

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589483
>>9589572
I mean how did you add Ina's karaoke numbers in live-ranking?

[Anonymous No.]

Pekora at 32k for a regular stream jesas

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589451

[Anonymous No.]

jst 2am
vs
prime burgertime

how do we save EN chuubas?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589658
>I mean how did you add Ina's karaoke numbers in live-ranking?
Right click, inspect element, duplicate, copy and paste manually the correct values

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589739
>SIMS

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589707
>regular
Well, Pekora struggling and being bullied is kind of a special stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589296
Hard fucking carry undesells it, he had more viewers than the top 20 nijis below him combined. At this point you might as well call Nijisanji the kuzuha company

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589829
That's kinda her thing a lot of the time, but I'll concede it's an extra large serving this time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589739
They’re fine. You should worry about NijiEN though, they are struggling to get 1k CCV

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589836
What's stopping Kuzuha from giving Nijisanji the finger and doing his own thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589296
>>9589395
How do we save ni?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589867
>What's stopping Kuzuha fro-
He's lazy and Nijisanji doesn't even need to pay him, they just ask him nicely to use their name and he's OK

I don't even think he knows there are people watching, he just likes to play games

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589863
they always were midgets and never had a shot, why would someone care

[Anonymous No.]

13k+ for Suisei on a new Tales game seems a bit mediocre. Probably because it's 2 day post release and jrpgs doesnt seem to attract as much viewers normally. Expected her to atleast hit 18k to 20k range.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589404
>>9589532
Rhythm game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpUaApmt-UY

Can't tell if she got the 10k peak during ... gatcha
But she's inclining to ~9k during gameplay too, so it might just be a hit for her, like for Yashiro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589532
>pulling gacha

[Anonymous No.]

>>9581575

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589296
Ina, thank you for representing EN...

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589296
You would think with how established they are that Nijisanji would do better than this. This is pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

A bit random but, since we see him on these threads a lot, first time i got jun channel recommended and saw... he doesn't even have 1 million subs yet!

Is this what it's like to be the most successful streamer in Japan?
Low subs, low comments, virtually no likes, but 50k come to watch your stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>9590213
Bots

[Anonymous No.]

>>9590213
>Low subs, low comments, virtually no likes, but 50k come to watch your stream
I think that's just how being a normalfag streamer works. The more hardcore the fanbase the more engagement you get. Hololive being at the extreme end of the spectrum since they overtly encourage idol fan like devotion/support.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589863
Tourists look at the top dogs first before branching out to smaller content creators, which fill their niche preferences better. They will shy away from the genre If the top dog is not doing well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9590156
Without Kuzeha this company is nothing.
At least Hololive has Pekora Gura Marine as the top 3 heavy hitters and there are lots of mid-tier holos like Rushia Subaru Miko (and more) who are not that far apart to the top 3

[Anonymous No.]

>>9590338
holoen has the most engagement yet they are as normalfag as it gets, half a million of redditors ffs

[Anonymous No.]

>>9590436
That's a cultural difference in tendency to comment/chat/like. I was referring to just JP vs JP comparisons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9590386
>Miko
>mid-tier
You are fucking crazy

[Anonymous No.]

>>9590487
When it comes to the numbers hololive is throwing around Miko is absolutely mid tier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9590386
>>9590487
>>9590386
>Pekora:Comedian
>Gura:Mascot
>Marine:Leader
>Miko:Protagonist

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589872
We don't, if Kuzuha one days get out of Niji for whatever dumb reason, which I don't really see happening anyway, it's fucking over. Niji has literally nothing going for it besides him.

[Anonymous No.]

I honestly don't understand what does and doesn't make certain streamers allergic to numbers, especially in direct comparison to other members from their own gen.

What was it that made Aki such an underperformer before the saviorfags swooped in? What is it that kills Polka's numbers? What has undermined Sana so thoroughly that she's already had another member in her own gen more than double her sub count now?

I genuinely have trouble seeing the logic behind some of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9590635
>Miko became top holo since 3D model update
This is why we said model is the key of success

[Anonymous No.]

>>9590686
They have Toya but he doesn't stream that much

[Anonymous No.]

>>9590734
Polka one is easy, she ditched her shedule so you can't plan to catch her streams. add to it her depression and her running away from social interactions that could become good clip material and you have the source of her going so low

[Anonymous No.]

>>9590635
Miko is 2nd for watch hours for almost the entire year and 2nd-4th for CCV every month outside of August when EN 2 debut.

If that's mid tier, then is Suisie with over 10k CCV low tier?
Is Marine "Mid tier" as well???

Perspective anon! That's what these tiers are even about.

[Anonymous No.]

From what i remembered about Aki, she had health issue shortly after debut which crippled her initial sub growth.

Sana is more on her streaming time, EOP only viewer at her timezone is a much smaller market.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589296
>>9589395
>You just know why today is a peaceful day

[Anonymous No.]

>>9590487
Miko is not bad or average, but her baseline is 15k while Marine and Peko have 20k+ as their baseline.
Perhaps placing her as a mid-tier holo doesn't justify the gap, but Miko is not at the same tier as Peko and Marine. Maybe SSS-tier vs SS-tier.

[Anonymous No.]

Gen 1 especially is pretty interesting because a lot of the things they were involved in reflects in their subscriber growth, more so than pretty much any other Gen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1L54VCb82Y

There's some cringy Haachama lore editing going on here, but you can still see when everything was happening.

Aki was the lowest subscribed since the start but Mel/Matsuri/Haato only broke off during her months off in 2019, then we can see Mel dropping off during her hiatus and
Then the point where Haachama became one of the most interesting vtubers to watch, vs Matsuri who was thinking of giving up and started cruising. The 2 had been neck and neck for most of it till then.
Fubuki ofc, always ahead but had big boosts first when she got big in china, then in the EN market.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589296
where's emperor hal? most importantly where's the winner of the day anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9591271
I'd put Miko ahead of Marine. Miko streams a ton and consistently draws between 15-25k depending on what she streams. Marine has more CCV but she is a lot like Gura in that she doesn't stream as much. If she streamed as much as Miko there is no guarentee she would hold that audience. Hours watched matters and the reason Miko and Pekora always dominate that category is because they stream a ton while holding a large audience. Marine needs to up her hours if she wants to be in the same league as Miko.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9591121
>health issue
she was in a accident that left her with a scar but yeah. dosen't help that she banked a lot on billibilli and china money and does the whole holo thing more as a side job

[Anonymous No.]

>>9590734
The explanation is pretty simple but you're not going to like it. You're taking streamers who are extreme numberfags as the standard, when you should be taking them as the exception, since most people would much rather have a stable loyal fanbase with low maintenance cost than put in the enormous amount of effort needed to stand out in numbers. It's just the most logical choice if you can sustain a comfortable lifestyle with your current fanbase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589739
Pekora and Kuzuha aren't terrible, shark is

[Anonymous No.]

>>9590213
so like Kuzuha? his viewers aren't about clicking the like button.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9591271
>>9591501
Different metrics will give different standings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9591213
Why is that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9591492
> Mel's roommate early boost

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589296
most of top tier niji doesn't stream today, sperg-kun

[Anonymous No.]

>>9591896
She started off as Gen 0, already announced and had streamed 2 weeks before the rest started.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9591899
The Niji top tier is Kuzuha, that is it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9591899
There's no top tier niji besides Kuzuha

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589939
20k? For a Tales of game? Suisei does well outside of her core streams but not that well. I bet Pekora would probably only get 20-25

[Anonymous No.]

>>9591644
I don't believe this explanation in that it doesn't hold true for a lot of the number variance that exists in a group like Hololive.

Like, sure, true numberfags like Pekora are going to try and maximize things, and SOME variance can be attributed to certain streamers working to build their platform up as much as possible, but at the same time there are plenty of cases of hardworking, driven members still lagging notably behind fellow genmates. And you can look at something as simple as Sana where, even if we disregard Kronii and her appeal to a larger demographic with things like reading requests, she's still an entire one-third behind in subs than the second-worst performing member in her own gen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9591492
the Taiwan incident helped haato reach 1million faster. Same with coco

[Anonymous No.]

>>9591946
>>9591984
Kuzuha alone can mogging the entire hololvie anywaykek

[Anonymous No.]

>>9592253
Work on your English.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9592253
Even the ID can mog Kuzuha on a rare occasion, but the same can't be said about Niji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9592253
like clockwork

[Anonymous No.]

>>9592253
What are you talking about blindchama?
Even Nene mogged your tourney king today

[Anonymous No.]

How can we save Pomu?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9592648
>likes more than viewers
Just Susan being Susan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9592253
Non-tourney Kuzuha is about on the same level as Subaru. He can't compete with the big three (Pekora, Marine, Miko).

[Anonymous No.]

>>9592044
Of course success doesn't come in a 1-to-1 correspondence with effort. Just look at Ayame. My point is that in most cases people stop trying so hard after they find themselves in a comfortable spot so, save for the occasional fluke, they're pretty much out of the numbers race for the top. If you want to understand why some people's efforts are rewarded more so than others, you can't really expect one overarching explanation to fit every case. Nobody has a clear formula for success in this market.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9592648
She can't be saved, you can only have big numbers as a EN if you're a Holo

[Anonymous No.]

Damn September gonna be an enormous decline for Niji. They need more stuff like baseball I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

I just realized gura took over mori in total views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9593235
>decline
return to normal*

[Anonymous No.]

>>9592729
his normal non tourney non scrim apex streams also perform well, same with horror games and random fotm shit but he barely does that

[Anonymous No.]

>>9593255
king views. most of Mori's views come from her songs so she'll only have a lead as long as gura doesn't upload music vids. currently, mori's songs make up about 75.4m of her views

[Anonymous No.]

The Unite tournament might be about 60-80k.
It's on Gwell's channel.
Kuzuha will most likely stomp everyone due to being decent at LoL previously.
Unite isn't that popular and kinda boring to watch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9593588
Were practice numbers good?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9593588
no zuha pov?
also that range seems a bit big to me i'd say 50k-60k is more reasonable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9592729
Tourneys are part of Kuzuha's content saying that without them he can't compete is unfair since his whole get-up is a gamer who plays fps and competes in tournaments. Most of his content is of him playing fps games, scrims then tourney - rinse and repeat. It's like me saying Pekora is nothing without collabs or variety games when her content is built around that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9593640
only Kuzuha's, I don't know if they're gonna do personal POV's but then it would just be a shitshow if they did that.
People will only watch him.

[Anonymous No.]

asmr seems to be paying off

[Anonymous No.]

>>9593687
For some reasons, I kinda think Peko actually rarely do collabs (unless you count all minecraft as collabs).

[Anonymous No.]

>>9593743
I really don't see the appeal in Mumei or Fauna, and I'm surprised that Sana is growing so slowly

[Anonymous No.]

>>9593701
I can't make any guesses because I don't know how this tourney works other than usually the winner is showcased on the host's channel, and everyone funnels there. 50k peak seems reasonable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9593687
>pekora & collabing
lol
>variety games
what even isn't classified as a "variety game" anyways? either way she still has stuff like borgars, singing, zatsus, etc

[Anonymous No.]

>>9593801
NTA, but the post you're replying to pretty much tell you fauna appeal
>ASMR

[Anonymous No.]

>>9593687
Kuzuha is a great streamer in all fronts, I disagree with the idea that if he didn't do tourneys and competitive gaming he would be behind the Holos. Thing is, without him, Niji just doesn't exist at all, and they gotta fix that. Their talent scout is fucking garbage, and the "throw shit at the wall to see what sticks" approach doesn't seem to be working anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9593687
Guess how i know you're a filthy EOP and doesn't watch her streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>9593743
And she seems driven and competent enough to keep improving her ASMR. Her number will keep inclining. I think once membership is ready, she should do public ASMRs, but paywall the VODs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9593888
>>9593801
Fauna is an underrated memelord, watch a few hours and she'll quickly grow on you
Mumei is EN's ayame, with a bit better singing and drawing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9593950
because this thread is full of N0 japanese speakers who religiously watch kuzuha channel right lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>9593923
Huh really? I don't really watch much niji but I was under the impression that their talent was fine and their problem was marketing? Someone like Sasaki or Hima doesn't seem to be on a lower level of streamer compared to Holomems. But maybe they're just the very best nijis idk

[Anonymous No.]

>>9593950
No one in this thread speaks Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9594033
お前では無いけど?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9592216
>helped haato reach 1million faster.
It was not just that. Haachama seized the moment and latched hard on EN branch even before the chinkout with her “WN domination plan”.
She tied her wagon on EN and it paid off greatly in late 2020 and early 2021

[Anonymous No.]

>>9594070
They are the very best Nijis, Niji has 130+ talents but most of them shouldn't even be tagged as "talents" at all. And the worst of it is that as soon as they fall behind, Niji just abandons them completely to focus on their next wave of chuubas (which Hololive also does, just to a far lower degree).

[Anonymous No.]

>>9594217
>Niji just abandons them
How so?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9594075
自分が知らないからと言って、人がやらないとは限るなよ

[Anonymous No.]

>>9593852
By variety games I meant playing random games like the one she's doing now, basically games you play once. "Either way she still has stuff like borgars, singing, zatsus, etc", you don't get what I'm trying to say in my comparison I was trying to imply that denying Kuzuha of tourneys is like denying one of his main content. It's like taking away collabs from hololive or minecraft away from Pekora.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9594217
>Niji has 130+ talents
Ok, yeah that's right. I can definitely think of a bunch of great niji streamers, but I wasn't even aware there were that many livers there in general. They should have went with a slower approach instead of flooding their own brand

[Anonymous No.]

>Niji should do this
>Niji should do that
Yet their earnings rise every year when they do the opposite of what this thread instructs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9594244
They do literally nothing for them, feels like they aren't even managed. If someone streams a year or 2 and nothing changes for them in that period, no updated models, no videos, no marketing or anything honestly, they've been basically abandoned. Take a look at the full Niji roaster, I'm pretty sure you will find dozens of them you've never even heard about at all. At least the less known Holo talents still get the very rare merch drop from time to time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9594358
Sure, but their brand image is much less powerful than Cover's. It's like if Holo is Mac and Niji is Windows

[Anonymous No.]

>>9591495
>where's the winner of the day anon?
I was conflicted because the day was kinda weak but here it goes
> WINNER OF THE DAY AWARD
goes to: Furen!

It’s not easy being green and it’s not easy not being Kuzuha in Nijisanji and it’s not easy being a chick on Manjisanji and yet she managed to pull herself all the way up to 10k today without any gimmick, it seems.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9589296
>>9594437
>OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT OF THE DAY
goes to: Nene! She executed her outfit reveal PERFECTLY and managed a rare double peak, with both the reveal and the full Gen 5 outfit display.

Surely idol material!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9594391
So who falls under that category? Because even Kyoko gets merch, even male dead last in subs Naru and Air get merch, can't really think of any JPs that are completely ignored. Fucking Roa got a new VP now, STILL recording VPs

[Anonymous No.]

>>9594217
>which Hololive also does
No they don’t. For fuck sake, they REFUSE to release another stars gen until the current ones get established when it’s obvious that HolostarsEN would likely AT VERY LEAST breath some novelty in that branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9594296
>basically games you play once
anon stop proving that you know nothing about pekora. She might spend a whole week until she finally beat the retarded jumpking game shes been playing
>It's like taking away collabs from hololive or minecraft away from Pekora
Jesus Christ have you ever watched any of them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9593923
I know Kuzuha is a great streamer but if you look at his content the past few months, it's mainly fps, scrims and tourneys and those always gets him big numbers like in the 40-80k range (not including VCC with the celeb because it's an anomaly) and the connections he builds with other streamers, youtubers and pro players during the tourneys has definitely spread his name around and has gotten more popular because of it. If he didn't do tourneys and competitive gaming, he wouldn't be as popular as he is now but he still would be the most popular niji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9594522
>merch
Given that it is made to order there is no risk in making a design and putting on display. As long as it’s sold above cost it is always profitable

[Anonymous No.]

>>9594537
By games you play once I meant games you don't play again after clearing them or finishing them. Eg, resident evil

[Anonymous No.]

>>9594548
>If he didn't do tourneys and competitive gaming
kek, if you take away tourneys, competitive gaming, collars, idol management, Pokémon and then break his mouse hand, ungel his hair, cut his electricity, Sarin gas his neighborhood, publish a deep fake of him denouncing Japan and joining the North Korean army WHAT KIND OF NUMBERS HE WOULD EVEN GET HUH?!?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9594566
What constitutes as marketing for you then? Everyone's slowly getting 3.0, they're featured in Puchisanji/chocosanji (animated shows), posters, live shows, etc. Nijisanji is just a company of streamers, not talents/idols, so some literal who who streams once a month to 300 people won't be getting a solo live any time soon. Unless you want that

[Anonymous No.]

>>9594537
Well their highest daily CCV is usually collabs or 3D.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9594598
nice backpedaling, now tell me anon, how many top streamers keep playing the exact same story over and over again on an eternal loop? Do you have any favorites?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9594657
I’m not disputing any of that, just saying having merch on a display is no sign of either support or risk taking

[Anonymous No.]

>>9594735
You said they're abandoned. Doesn't make sense to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>9594657
Anon is probably referring to a whole company collab that includes everyone like hololive akibahara collab which unfortunately only hololive pro can achieve.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9594675
wow so that must mean all they do is collabs or 3D

[Anonymous No.]

>>9593586
Has Mori hosted a collab song on her channel? Pretty amazing her total music views while selflessly giving Gura, Watame, Rikka, Suisei, etc. all the views for her collars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9594770
Anon, this is an anonymous cambodian horsegirl forum. You would do much better assuming every new post is some other anon butting in (which is the case for this chain) instead of assuming every anon is the first anon you replied (which is not the case here)

[Anonymous No.]

>>9593743
Fauna hosted the council collab last week, no?

[Anonymous No.]

If Risu is such a vocal prodigy as her fans swear to SenkoSan she is, she surely does a piss poor job promoting herself.
Moona gets easy 7k for her unachived karaoke, what is Risu even doing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9594868
oh thats true

[Anonymous No.]

>>9593801
Whereas I'm not surprised by Sana's lack of growth since nobody outside Asia gives the slightest shit about horoscopes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9594680
well, there's fubuki grinding her Genocide RTA for the past few weeks but the story doesn't really matter at that point

[Anonymous No.]

>>9594822
I'm still waiting for a justification for it whether or not you're the anon who's butting in as you say.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9592672
I genuinely do wonder what Youtube's live numbers would look like compared to Twitch's if they weren't being "corrected" to account for "bots"

[Anonymous No.]

>>9594875
That happened at like 6-7 am for most of America.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9594875
Risu seems to do everything in her power to debuff herself and I have absolutely no idea why.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9594680
I didn't back pedal, I just didn't explain enough for you to understand lol, top streamers don't usually have the same content formula as Pekora, they usually play the same type of games like gta, valoarnt, apex and etc basically they have a couple main games to roatate around. Everyone had different content for streaming, like OTV usually play games where they collab, XQC and Jun have a few games they usually play where they rotate and pick from, Kuzuha plays fps games and competes in tourneys and Pekora plays random games and minecraft. I know these streamers do something different every now and then but this is what their streaming format mainly is.

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>>9594875
Acapella is shit most of time.
For tonight, I would rather listen to Pekora frustrated noises than Risu acapella.

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>>9594791
No that is what gets them the highest numbers, why do I have to repeat this?

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>>9595042
NTA but let me give you some justification for niji livers being abandoned
>back during their first foray to CN market in 2018 they fail so bad at that they simply end the business partnership and graduate 16livers
>they did 0 market research for their IN branch that it flopped so bad and pretty much defunct now
>when their voiz project fails through both naruse and air got like 0 support and end in a limbo for a long ass time.

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>>9594875
That was the after party. The actual acapella had like 1500. The main difference is that nobody wants to listen to acapella. Karaoke without the music is just dumb and Risu needs to fucking do karaoke already.

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>>9594803
>selflessly
That's excellent publicity for her as well, and she probably gets a cut of the profits too.

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>>9594803
pretty sure the way it works is the one who initiates the song collab hosts it

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>>9594657
I do wish they would support their chuubas with 100~300 viewers indeed, that's the whole point, some of them would probably stream more if they felt like Niji considered their existence. If you don't want to support your small creators, then stop fucking spamming and overloading your line up with garbage, it would probably be easier than what they are doing now. Besides, are we really forgetting the ID fiasco?

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>>9595184
because you keep trying to say they would be nothing without them, when several of them get daily 20k lives without it. No amount of backpedaling or samefagging will change it, anonchama.
>>9595102
lol you said pekora would be nothing without variety gaming. It is like saying a streamer would be nothing without streaming

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>>9594631
Read my reply again, his participation in many different tourneys has spread his name outside of the nijisanji bubble which in turn made him more popular since he got introduced to other streamers, pro players or youtuber's fanbases basically he gains new fans that don't overlap within nijisanji. If he didn't compete then he wouldn't have an opportunity to collab or interact with all the people he did.

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>>9595390
To be fair a lot of their low level chuubas are doing it as a hobby, Harusaki Air tends to get shit on in here but he has an IRL full time job. Not sure about the rest. There's probably no helping Hajiki's numbers, but he's fine, he was up with Rin! on stage in 3D getting grenades thrown at him

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>>9595538
when you can only get 300 viewers you simply cannot rely on that for sole income, it's not their choice to treat it as a hobby. They need a main job to fucking survive.

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>>9595411
I didn't say they would be nothing without them, I said collabs or 3D always gets them the highest views, it's not my fault you can't read. Yes I said Pekora would be nothing without variety gaming just like how Kuzuha would be nothing without tourneys since that is one of his main content, just like how one of Pekora's main content is varirty games so invalidating Kuzuha of tourneys is unfair is the reason this discussion started in the first place.

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>>9595507
>23 years old boomer can’t recognize a 2 weeks old meme

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>>9595722
Air has had a job since before vtubing. Hajiki has been rich and streams for a hobby. I think people like Shiba did depend on it, and she sold VPs or something then had to leave to the hospital, it's what happens when there's no salary

[Anonymous No.]

Ina's anniversary stream in a few minutes.
Maybe it can hit 20k.

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>>9595836
>I didn't say they would be nothing without them
>yes I did say pekora would be nothing without them
>not my fault you can't read
and lol, your own definition of variety gaming encompasses any sort of gaming. Back to "streamer would be nothing without streamer"
I wonder how you even make it past the captcha.

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>>9595862
It seems like replying too much has overloaded my brain lol.

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>>9582725
also, I thought the Holoscopes would mention Holos who fall in those signs and have something entertaining made with that... but she didn't, right?

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>>9595538
Survival of the fittest > Social welfare

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>>9596169
nope, she made it about bread instead

[Anonymous No.]

>Jump King
>JST time
What the fuck? Is it bot?

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>>9596113
The points you pointed out have no relevance to each other. They were both stated in different context LMAO, let me repeat it again for you since you can't read for shit. Pekora would be nothing without variety games and hololive's daily highest CCV is usually collabs or 3Ds but hololive itself isn't useless without them because they still get decent numbers but they wouldn't get 40k+ like they usually do.

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>>9596113
Why you keep responding to his bait?
He can't be that retarded IRL.

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>>9589739
What's the excuse this time?

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>>9596610
Bot server broke in Nijisanji basement

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>>9596412
>He can't be that retarded IRL.

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>>9596297
She's making 24K right now and peaked at 32K at 1AM~2AM JST time.

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>>9596093
That low for an anniversary stream?

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>>9596610
> Endurance stream part 2 vs solo PokeUnite part 10+

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>>9596113
As you said before Pekora doesn't only do variety games she also does zatsu, karaoke and regularly plays minecraft, I just took your word for it. Btw by variety gaming I meant games you don't play anymore after playing it once, they don't include games she regularly plays like minecraft or mario cart. I guess saying she and Kuzuha would be nothing was a bit too much as Pekora has a lot of other games she frequently plays and Kuzuha still has his fps games.

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>>9597229
>C
>O
>E
>P

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>>9596412
Found another idiot who can't read baka

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>>9597368
dafaq i typed baka how did it turn into baka.

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>>9596971
It's an early celebration. Kinda like a countdown.
The actual anniversary date is tomorrow.

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>>9597415
seems like i can't type s.m.h?

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>>9597415
Newfag

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>>9597415
baaka

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>>9597728
lmao this shit funny

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>>9597415
>Baka
Ahoooooooo

[Anonymous No.]

>>9597914
Maji fuza kenna

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>>9597914
I didn't know this board filtered words lol but it was funny so I don't mind it that much.

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ngl

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>>9598353
>I didn't know this board filtered words
Did anons teach you about "LURK MOAR" meme?

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking underage seaniger tourist poster i swear, fucking go back to the yt chat and 草 away faggot

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>>9596610
anons finally managed to take away his pc break his fingers afghanistan etc. etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9598500
no

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>>9598767
You are supposed to lurk without posting for some 3 to 18 months until you are familiar with the inner workings of this site, board, thread and general posts

[Anonymous No.]

>>9596933
JPbros i kneel

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>>9598818
Don't even fucking bother with these ESL third-worlder mongloid, just ignore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9598818
shit that's a long time, 18 months? damn guess i gotta go lurking for a while, see you in another lifetime lol.

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>>9593588
I think it'll be lower due the multiple POV & relatively new game, 50K is reasonable number.

>>9594391
Setomiya literally who recently got new official illustration.

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>>9598953
And you're what? a tramp who goes around begging to get his ass fked? I get filtered and you insult me just because I don't spend my life here to know the ins and outs of this board?

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>>9595390
Setomiya recently got new official illustration and they throw lot money in ID anniversary.

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>>9600047
That was a test, lurk more and grow a thicker skin or go back to the hugbox called reddit and twitter retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>9598953
I bet you go around insulting others just to boost your own ego so that your pathetic ass can feel validated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9600330
ピンポン、はい正解!
もう一つの愚かものが見つけたんで

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>>9600330
>I bet you go around insulting others just to boost your own ego
KEK, well?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9600554
I whould be ashamed to have learned just enough japanese to understand this but pretty much nothing else useful

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>>9600324
You call that a test? I always see garbage comments like this on this thread and it's always towards towards the 'sea people' so this test was to see if a person who comments during sea hours can handle insults, then no thanks I'm out.

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>>9600554
Try again, I returned an insult with an insult. I don't go around randomly insulting people for no reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9597415
Guess you never tried to type Subaru's group F.A.M.S, it's for SENPAITACHI

[Anonymous No.]

It's impossible not to kneel to Pekora

[Anonymous No.]

>>9598353
it's okay i thought the subgroup was actually called senpaitachi for the longest time

[Anonymous No.]

>whould
>towards towards
Have fun slaving away in a third-world shitehole where your annual income worths a fraction of my tax lul.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9601342
bunne

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>>9601753
Still a test lmao? Get off your high horse and admit that you like degrading people and stop masking it behind a 'test'. I didn't know making a few grammar mistakes made me a resident in a third world country lol, you must have a very narrow view of life.

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>>9602760
kys

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>>9602760
> and admit that you like degrading people
Are you sure you are not lost, kid?

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>>9602959
Sorry for having some human decency.

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>>9597429
this is her solo celebration though, peaked at 18k

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>>9603130
>Sorry for having some human decency.
Siorry anon, you REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY need to lurk moar

REALLY!

[Anonymous No.]

did newfags get here because of the 1year en anniversary?

[Anonymous No.]

fuck i hate the SEAmonkeys so fucking much, IP range ban when moot?

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>>9603225

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>>9580847
embarrassing

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>>9603225
I get it now, I have to have thick skin and get insulted and then I insult back? Damn I didn't know I had to drop my IQ in the negatives and talk ape well here's goes nothing.

>>9603295
Fucktard how's ur mom's basement? You from america? with that shit that coming outta ur mouth, im suprised someone didn't shoot you and stuff your body in a ditch.

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>>9600729
>I always see garbage comments like this on this thread and it's always towards towards the 'sea people'
You're one of the people contributing to this trend anon, gratz!

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>>9604000
don't give a fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>何度でも時計仕掛けように見えるね