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Why is CC the runt of her gen?

I thought the anons said she was "the best girl" and the "Fauna replacement".
What gives?

>> No.95016262
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>*brap* mmmmmmmmm

>> No.95016333

>>95016143
She's pretty boring lmao whoever said that is clearly wrong

>> No.95016536

>>95016143
She's a German. Kiara is also the runt of Myth

>> No.95016596

>>95016143
Why is it so hard for you to stay in your containment zone, /#/nigger?

>> No.95016657

>>95016596
how you retards gaslit yourselves into believing they're "containment zones" and not "breeding rounds" i'll never understand.

>> No.95016660

>>95016143
subs mean nothing, viewership does
either way, stay in your containment

>> No.95016729

>>95016143
Some girls like Cecilia, Ina and Fauna have lower subs but a high average CCV, maybe because they have more dedicated fans. For example Ina has higher CCV than Mori, even though she has way more subs. Also go back to your cage monkey

>> No.95016764

>>95016143
this sisterfag really hates CGDCT
ccv she's easily the top subs and pretend watches like you don't really watch at all now do you?

>> No.95016781

>>95016143
>CC
>/vt/'s favorite because she's "unicorn friendly"
>flops

>ERB
>hated by /vt/ for being "homo friendly"
>inclines

lol

>> No.95016817

>>95016781
>Confusing /vt/ with /#/
Yikes

>> No.95016840

>>95016764
that's some incredible esl seethe and cope right there.

>> No.95017015

>>95016143
How the fuck is no one in Justice at 500k yet? Will the Glowies pass them?

>> No.95017070

>>95016781
like clockwork

>> No.95017111

>>95016143
You edited GG and CC's numbers...

>> No.95017129

>>95016781
/#/cuckbros...

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>>95016764

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>>95016764
THE KING OF THE ESL KINGS

>> No.95017227

>>95016262
I can’t believe this ruined her entire career

>> No.95017242

>>95016143
vtuber popularity is usually determined based on how big their tits are first and entertainment value second

>> No.95017512

>>95016143
Fauna was also the sub runt of her gen, so...

>> No.95017718

>>95016143
Raora has shorts, Gigi is slowly growing thanks to her charisma, ERB appeals to JP by rebroadcasting karaoke and Cecilia collabs too much and she's not sexy or cute.

>> No.95017836

>>95017512
That was Sana

>> No.95017873

>>95017836
Sana isn't in Promise.

>> No.95017932

>>95016143
It might have to do with her eu streaming schedule, since euros generally don't watch vtubers as much as americans and japs, and her timeslot is pretty bad for them

>> No.95018172

>>95016143
More people knew ERB and Raora before they joined. I only follow Raora of the 4 and it's not based on anything she did for hololive.

>> No.95018334

>>95017873
did anon forget that promise didnt exist till recently

>> No.95019280

>>95017836
>>95017873
>>95018334
who?

>> No.95019546

>numberfagging
There's your problem, anon

>> No.95019746

>>95019280
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLnxCyzFgPw&t=35s

>> No.95019779

>>95016262
Why did she sniff it?

>> No.95019804

>>95019746 (me)
the gen that went so poorly cover had to invent a new one and toss iris into it

>> No.95019834

>>95019804
>iris

>> No.95021493

>>95016143
germans aren't funny or entertaining

>> No.95021719

creating /#/ and validating numbermonkeys was the worst mistake this board ever made.

>> No.95021758

>>95017242
>vtuber popularity is usually determined based on how big their tits are first and entertainment value second
The EN vtuber market does have a lot of coomers but it's not that horrible. Gura proves that having a cute design is often better for a vtuber and Mumei would easily have the most subscribers if she consistently streamed. There are so many lewd streamers competing for horny guys that jiggling boobs isn't that much of a benefit despite what coomers might say.

>> No.95022683

>>95016143
The Fauna of Justice

>> No.95022699

>>95016262
/thread

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>>95016143
No need to edit it to be a faggot. She's still above GG, although she will be passed pretty soon. But they will all pass ERB in time. Personally, I find her to be the top 5 most entertaining EN members.

>> No.95023622

>>95021758
>Mumei would easily have the most subscribers if she consistently streamed
ppft.

>> No.95023663

>>95023315
>But they will all pass ERB in time
Two more weeks? give or take

>> No.95023760

>>95016143
Rozen Maiden aired 20 years ago anon, doll girls popularity has long past before most of /vt/ even born.

>> No.95023811

>>95023663
>Two more weeks? give or take
Nah, shitposting aside, probably by the end of the year.

>> No.95023947

>>95023315
Oh shit, I didn't realize Raora was about to pass ERB

>> No.95023974

>>95016143
itt. maddling napcuck

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>>95023760
>Rozen Maiden

>> No.95024632

>>95023315
>But they will all pass ERB in time
I don't have enough pepes for you

>> No.95025475

>>95024214

>> No.95026301

I dropped her because she failed to deliver her member content plus her selection of games is kinda meh with all the soulslop and repeated content.

She has been playing Final Story though and that's cool, been watching those and she's still fun, also watched her collab with Gura, that was OK too but it kinda underperformed.

>> No.95026393

Subs don't matter

>> No.95026415

Why is OP the runt of /vt/?

I thought /#/ said they were "the most influential thread" and "definitely not pagpag eaters".

>> No.95026573

>>95016143
>Fauna replacement
>runt of her gen
checks out, what's the problem here?

>> No.95026725

>>95016143
I with I could filter all HoloEN threads and all homo threads from this board.

>> No.95026833

>>95016143
Green debuff

>> No.95026952

>>95016143
Subs are only a metric of initial hype based on how the model looks. They only surpass each other if one of them fucks up badly for a year or two. See: Mumei the nothing somehow being on the lead of subs in Promise

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>>95023315
>>95023663
>>95023811
>>95023947
Liz, CC & GG's channels have all been growing at the same rate for months, only Raora's is growing faster because she's doing well with shorts...

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>>95016143
>>95017111
OP confirmed a faggot.
Gigi is still the "runt," but she's had plenty of great interactions within EN. Like the current play reading collab with Bae.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hADwEYOf4g

>> No.95028668

>>95026393
Subs matters the most for investors

>> No.95030515

>>95016143
doll debuff

>> No.95032492

>>95026996
>>95023315
>really about to be passed by Gigi
Grim.

>> No.95032593

>>95016143
if you are a 4chan darling and sound fat then 4chan will praise you and your leeching abilities and you wont actually be relevant

>> No.95032656

>>95023315
Wasnt this just because of the gura leech collab?

>> No.95032885

>>95016596
This is the catalogue, faggot. Stay in your generals if you don't want to see the truth, you inbred crackbaby.

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>>95028668
Investors don't matter

>> No.95033671

>>95016143
>Fauna was the runt of promise
>CC is the runt of Justice
Seems like a good replacement to me!

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>>95032885
>catalogue

>> No.95033868

>>95016143
> "runt"
> Caring about sub count on this day and age
kys numberfaggot, go back to your cesspool /#/ thread

>> No.95034714

>>95016143
ERB singer/normie buff
Raora PL/shorts buff

CC is great, but she's great in a different way than Fauna. Fauna was better off the cuff and wittier with banter (honestly Gura and Fauna are/were the wittiest in EN period so it's tough competition) but CC is still pretty formidable. She's pretty creative and immersive with her bits and uses her model and assets in clever ways I haven't seen others do. And she is cute, anyone saying she isn't is retarded. She makes some of the cutest little noises and mannerisms of anyone.

>> No.95037705

>>95032656
No, she didn't really gain any subs from that.

>> No.95040282

>>95016143
>1k difference
>runt

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Don't worry, her subcount will rise again when the furina banner rerun is back.

>> No.95041172

Looking at the REEEE GO BACK TO /#/ posts in this thread is ironic because you guys never had the same energy when it came to Myth/Promise/Advent subs, or these threads for any other vtubers, whenever numberfags made those bait threads you guy would come up with every excuse to shit on whoever OP was attacking there.
Subs have literally NEVER mattered, you guys are just mad because now they're being used to attack someone you like instead of someone you've deemed a flop or a failure because they didn't reach 1 million subs as fast as you thought they should.

>> No.95042248

>>95041172
too real for this thread

>> No.95044025

>>95016781
it really do be like that

>> No.95044214

>>95017836
>>95019746
seethe more napcuck

>> No.95044249

>>95017836
If Sana was still streaming she would have blossomed into a major player in the vtubing scene.

>> No.95045335

The initial wave of subscribers for any new Holo gen is based entirely on model design. Dozens of thousands of people subscribe literally before hearing the vtuber's voice. This probably creates a snowball effect on the algorithm that is difficult to overturn.

>> No.95045387

>>95016143
People are afraid of investing into another Holo green girl after Rushia and Fauna the grifter

>> No.95045593

>>95045335
CC model is the best one of Justice.

>> No.95045647

>>95045593
I agree but no booba no sub, that's how the masses work. It's too much of a coincidence that the two boobmonsters are significantly ahead of the two flatties.

>> No.95045936

>>95045335
You're retarded if you actually think that our society revolves around boobs

>> No.95045950

Fauna also had the least subscribers of her Gen, even so she was the best one in her Gen. Subscriber counts are wierd.

>> No.95046048

>>95017512
>>95016143
>the cgdct champion of their gen
>the undeniable runts
I guess unicorns are negligible

>> No.95046105

>>95016143
Gigi is the runt of the gen with her shitty twitch adjacent "humor", constant collab-begging, and FPS obsession. Nice edited image, by the way.

>> No.95046136

>>95016143
thanks for putting a red square around Cecilia's channel, otherwise I wouldn't have found it

>> No.95046147

>>95032885
>the truth
anon, you're delusional and autistic. You wouldn't know the truth if it kicked you in the ass.

>> No.95047721

>>95016781
kek

>> No.95049064

>>95046048
No. We, The Unicorns, are the ones driving all merch sales.

Mark my words: ERB's limited drop will go 1 month without selling out.

>> No.95049999

>>95023315
OP btfo

>> No.95050239

>>95016143
>why is this runt like that other runt anons compare her to

>> No.95050387

>>95041172
ALL of you numberfags need to be nuked off this board. I don't care who you're numberfagging for. This was supposed to be a goddamn entertainment focused board, not horse race betting between people who don't watch streams.

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>>95016143
>GG
>CC
>RR
Why ERB?

>> No.95051835

>>95019779
You never sniff your braps?

>> No.95052548

>>95045593
Which is not saying much really, ERB and Gigi are convoluted to hell and Raora is pretty generic.

>> No.95053168

>>95049064
Maybe you should go and sub more too, its passing a bad image

>> No.95053519

>>95052548
GG I can understand but what's convoluted about ERB's design? It's just your generic red-haired big boobed anime woman.

>> No.95054049

>>95045593
Her skirt is stupid. There, I said it.
She's acknowledge that, even. That it makes no sense for her skirt to be rigid. She's apologized to artists for that fact, because if the difficulty it causes in rendering it when she's sitting down.
It's okay to be a bit of a hoop skirt (though I would still prefer if a skirt that drapes more closely to her legs) but it should be fabric and not glass so it doesn't get in the way of, you know, fucking sitting down. Or standing close to a counter or desk. Or people.

>> No.95054208

>>95054049
It'll translate well into 3D. Cover can't do fabric draping in 3D. Look at Ollie.

>> No.95054317

>>95054049
I like her skirt. It makes NO sense physically or practically, but it reminds me of the Oblivion glass set and I love it.

>> No.95054417

death to all green women I won't rest until they're all graduate and die

>> No.95054555

>>95054049
>it's the skirt's fault

>> No.95054662

>>95053519
The flame and her colors are all over the place, maybe a better phrase would be to say that while it's not convoluted it's is poorly done, making it look convoluted.

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>>95054662
That's just what anime is nowawadays.
Overdesign in the extreme. The new JP gens are bad for it too despite them all being "normal humans" again.
Apart from what's going on with her shoulders/cape thing, ERB's design is arguably conservative by comparison.

>> No.95055492

>>95016143
Not sure what her niche is.
>Vsinger wine aunt extraordinaire
>Ultra high energy gaming meme gremlin
>Sana 2.0 with a worse accent SHE CAN DRAW
>...green Wawa but with MORE Germany?

>> No.95055707

>>95055492
she's not Kiara, she's the creatividad and a tsukkomi.

>> No.95055798

>>95054662
>>95052548
ERB's face and hair feel kind of generic.

>> No.95055834

>>95055707
Except she's not on Ame's or even Shiori's level as La Creatividad. Her specialty seems to be just in the way she puppets her Live2D, but it's just a step above what other holos usually do. Nothing groundbreaking.

>> No.95056015

>>95016143
SEAmonkeys raiding with holo vs holo numberfaggotry, what gives ?

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95056043

we winning on all fronts, games culture everywhere right now
woke sisters , losing on every front.
we all know they support jack shit
subs but don't watch
talk but don't buy

>> No.95056062

>>95016660
>viewership does
So it's over for the whole branch?

>> No.95056149

>>95055492
she's funny solo, unlike many of the other EN members.

>> No.95056269

>>95055492
She can stream without shrieking gay sex every 5 minutes. A rare trait among English speaking vtubers.

>> No.95056342

>>95055834
The otomo book?
The Christmas Party?

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https://www.youtube.com/live/EeLk1olaabQ?t=1185s

I get that Cecilia is an automaton and meant to be lifeless, but the difference in expressiveness between her and Raora is insane

>> No.95057909

>>95056015
phase graduation deflection. take notice, when holo has a graduation they destroy the catalog for weeks. when phase has a graduation the catalog is fine. remember that next time they try to say they aren't the worst fan base.

>> No.95057921

>>95056269
>she can stream without shrieking gay sex every 5 minutes
Which is funny because she seems pretty gay. I guess that's what it means to be in the closet.

>> No.95057938

>>95016143
Because she's actually entertaining and doesn't appeal to the lowest common denominator or tumblr lesbians
Hope this helps!

>> No.95058062

>>95057921
That's the difference between living the reality and acting gay as bait. Real fags don't have to ham up what they are, you only play into stereotypes as a performance.

>> No.95058814

>>95049064
Bookmarked. Be prepared to grovel.

>> No.95059171

>>95024067
Yesterday, while shaving, I noticed that the random red hairs on my chin have become white.
One day you're a 14 year old child watching Rozen Maiden, fansubbed of course, and then suddenly you have a patch of white hair in your chin.
Bros... I'm not ready to be old. I'm supossed to relate to Luke young energy, not Obi-wan stoic fatigue. I watch vtubers. I'm still young and hip, right?

>> No.95059983 [DELETED] 

>>95016143

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>>95016143
why has nobody called out your fake screenshot yet?

>> No.95061528

>>95060737
They have if you'd read the fucking thread.
>>95026996

>> No.95064270

>>95016143
How the fuck does ERB still have such a huge lead?

>> No.95066577

>>95016262
mein gott.......imagine the SMELL

>> No.95066883

>>95055834
>Except she's not on Ame's or even Shiori's level as La Creatividad.
Ame... pfft.

>> No.95067139

>>95016143
OP she has the highest CCV and makes the most money. Sub count matters yes but, it's not the end all to be all.

Having 1mil subs but only having 1-2k ccv is horrible.

>> No.95067355

>>95066883
Ame carried Myth throughout 2021 when Cover couldn't be arsed to give them any support. C'mon, man

>> No.95067429

>>95016143
Bae voice

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>>95016143
They are all runts

>> No.95069127

>>95067569
the last two are not correct.

>> No.95069789

>>95016781
ERB only 'inclines' because of her singing/karaoke streams, nobody actually gives a single fuck about her or knows anything about her outside of this, her being 'homo friendly' or whatever has nothing to do with it

>> No.95070492

>>95069789
her viewpoints did gain her twitter support.

>> No.95070580

>>95016143
/#/ is not an accurate reflection of reality.
The delusions of grandeur that emanate through there makes me think Russian propaganda websites are less narcisssitic on a collective level

>> No.95070683

>>95070492
twitter support is meaningless because twitterfags don't actually watch streams

>> No.95070719

>>95016764
Most illiterate post of the year in 2025

>> No.95070800

>>95069789
That's a such a cope.
>vtubername only inclined because of her gaming streams
>vtubername only inclined because of her zatsu streams

>> No.95070811

>>95016781
>check replies for salt
>/#/trannies can't handle being wrong for one minute
Many such cases!

>> No.95070883

>>95021719
Truth

>> No.95070993

>>95026415
They're cartelniggers who think they're white kek

>> No.95071140

>>95041172
You can't stop filling the catalog and other generals with your tribalist garbage that it would only make sense that people clap back and tell your ESL ass to go back.

>> No.95071146

>>95067569
hope CC is not flannelmaxxing...

>> No.95071170

>>95070683
but they do subscribe. so she got twitter subs and gets the karaoke buff on her ccv.

>> No.95071233

>>95046048
They are
>>95049064
>SEAmonkey being able to afford merch
Doubt

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>>95033822

>> No.95071326

>>95055492
/#/trannies with the lowest standards ever known other than a term they stole and bastardized from /a/

>> No.95071365

>>95067569
Cool, now how about you show us their sub counts?

>> No.95071421

>>95070683
What does /#/ do other than seethe at all but 6 girls in Hololive for simply existing?

>> No.95071676

>>95041172
Where did that post imply I was a numberfag? I have hated numberfags long before the rest of you, but unlike the rest of this board I never tolerated them from the start just because they were a convenient tool to shit on the girls you guys didn't like.
I just hate the hypocrisy.

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CC collabed with Gura and it destroyed her channel
Don't ever collab with Gura, kids

>> No.95071731

>>95071676
Meant for
>>95071140

>> No.95071764

>>95071686
why exclude FUWAMOCO though?

>> No.95071837

>>95071764
if you didn't notice, its only ones below 1M for all EN gens

>> No.95075254

retard

>> No.95075690

I love Cece so much it's unreal

>> No.95080029

>>95016143
germans are weird

>> No.95081014

>>95056149
Not really

>> No.95082220

>>95016764
Just enjoyer...

>> No.95082299

>>95050559
Beth Bloodflame

>> No.95084202

Jannies how about you do your fucking job? You rather range ban me and avoid me from reporting these fake/BS threads.

>> No.95084454

>>95069789
>nobody actually gives a single fuck about her or knows anything about her outside of this
I know this is hard to believe, but what anons on /vt/ say isn't indicative of the opinions of the wider vtuber community.

>> No.95084644

>>95070683
Neither do catalogfags

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>> No.95087129

>>95057938
if she's actually entertaining then why don't people agree with you and watch her/sub?
I'm getting serious rosemi deja vu.

>> No.95087269

>>95016262
good times

>> No.95088478

>>95059171
I wish I could be a mentor figure right now and I'm still 24
It sounds way cooler

>> No.95088874

I think Liz would incline if she just streamed games she's fucking built for.
Hell, just games in general (that aren't like Marvel Rivals) probably. There's a distinct silliness to her that isn't given enough attention.

>> No.95091942

>>95016143
>and the "Fauna replacement".
She was the Ame replacement with Gigi, not fauna.

>> No.95093895

>>95091942
ye

>> No.95098148

>>95016143
Why are you the runt of the litter?

>> No.95099828

>>95016143
Its what CCfags deserve after slandering ERB.

>> No.95099962

>>95059171
bro it only ever gets worse. my fucking chest hair is turning gray. die young, it's what god and nature intended.

>> No.95102743

>>95087129
Ceci was the second most watched HoloEN in January with the third highest average CCV. People definitely watch her.
You could say that's indicative of a smaller yet more dedicated fanbase. Much like Fauna.

>> No.95102833

>>95016781
In the words of Rosemi: So true. So real.

>> No.95102877

>>95070683
>implying catalogfags watch streams either

>> No.95103106

>>95102743
Shh, I'm baiting shitposters.

>> No.95107216

>>95071686
GiGi is just into trashy girls/people like mori
like mother like child

GG ccv is always the highest eh? well higher then Liz that's for sure, and that's the pro unity collab bitch

>> No.95107333

>>95033671
>>95034714
>>95091942
>>95102743
NIMICOPE

>> No.95109448

>>95067569
Am I supposed to know who these names belong to?

>> No.95109470

>>95016781
ERB only inclines because she actually have talent, she would be getting way more ccv and supas if she wasnt such a massive homowhore.

>> No.95109473

>>95109448
Pretty sure they're just some 2-3view indies. Their fans have been shilling them here constantly for months. It's obnoxious.

>> No.95112253

>>95107333
Living rent free in your head

>> No.95114770

>>95099828
True that

>> No.95118240

Germans are cringe

>> No.95118256

Gg about to pass her for real

>> No.95118453

>>95016143
Fauna was also the least subbed member of Promise. Goes to show that sub numbers aren't always indicative of entertainment (especially when ERB is at the top of her gen).

>> No.95118596

>>95016143
At first they were all into Gigi as the ERB killer pro-unichud, then CC was the ERB killer pro-unichud, then Roara for about 2 days before they realized they were in the wrong house and went back to CC. Now they might rally around Gigi again.
Reminder that only these fools are holo vs holo antis.

>> No.95118757

>>95118596
Lies, no one cared about Gigi at first, she was the real runt the of the gen

>> No.95119885
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95119885

Stop breaking containment /#/

>> No.95119958

>>95109448
Phase connect girls

>> No.95122669

>>95016143
German

>> No.95122955

>>95016143
ERB and Raora have cute accents.
Gigi is a hyperactive zoomer.
Cecilia is just kind of there.

>> No.95124090

>>95016143
Anon...you realize she is, in your very picture, only 1k less than Gigi? Is that actually a significant difference when they both have ~380k?

>> No.95124890

>>95067569
get outta here, retarded phaseturd

>> No.95124998

>>95107216
That's only cuz she got more exposure by constantly collab-begging like a grifter.

>> No.95125434

>>95107216
>>95124998
What the fuck are you people talking about?

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