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What went wrong?

>> No.9485286

You were born

>> No.9485303

>>9485231
Cover tried to tap into the capeshit audience with the over complicated lore but failed to realize that nobody cares.

>> No.9485343

HoloEN is everything wrong with vtubers, bloated numbers, awful synergy, little to no idol activity, and full EoP pandering. EN2 is better in every way

>> No.9485380

>>9485231
Cringe lore

>> No.9485427

>>9485231
Tranny manager that follow Coco

>> No.9485440

>>9485343
>HoloEN can't pander to people who only speak English
what?

>> No.9485446

>9485231
You OP. That's what went wrong. Now rope yourself.

>> No.9485452

Susan

>> No.9485456
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>>9485231
Nothing SEAnig.

>> No.9485477

Still better than NijiEN

>> No.9485489

>>9485440
EoPs are cancer on any Japanese medium.

>> No.9485548

>>9485343
one of EN2 is already breaking down so its just a matter of months and days until she either quit or be irrelevant
>myth is still strong
>keep seething

>> No.9485552

LORE LORE LORE LORE LORE LORE LORE. boring as fuck. Just Give me JP6 and make sure their lore is virtually non-existent. Give me a princess mechanic, a spider, a frog, a sailor outfit lady and the boring saviorfag bait to even things out. Simple is best. K-on fans would agree.

>> No.9485601

No loli.
No different art styles or characters.
The lack of variety means that the audience will diminish for each vtuber each generation.
Make someone have a western art style or something interesting.

>> No.9485676

>>9485303
>I don't like lore
>Everyone must not like it also

>> No.9485705

>>9485231
Nothing they are great and slowly finding their place. They are already at the numbers myth had about this time. Before some false flagging faggot comes in here.

Using Gura as a measurement is retarded as fuck and the equivalent of using a 100km measuring tape to try and measure 10km. Holo Myth actually got MORE shit then Council is getting. Nothing Myth can do will top Amegeddon or the Trash Taste podcast (this event literally brought Connor into the Vtubing bubble) outside literally inviting their boyfriend on stream.

Stop taking the easy bait you retards now excuse me off to jump back in a corpo, thread, split or 2views thread so you schizos can play.

>> No.9485736

>>9485286
FPBP

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>>9485477
rent free

>> No.9485785

>>9485676

I think it was john carmack who said story in a game in like story in a porn. its expected to be there but it does not matter.

>> No.9485805

>>9485768
Why are you even in the thread?

>> No.9485838

Remember the Cover talent recruitment job post just before the EN2 announcement? Makes a whole lot of sense now...

>> No.9485854

Boyfriends. Also, Reddit.

>> No.9485860

>>9485548
>Ame is gonna graduate any day now
>Mori graduation soon she hates hololive
>Kiara is one more yab away from graduating
>Ina... graduate...
>Gura hates her fans she will graduate


Would you look at that year 2 is starting I though EN would all graduate within their first year.

>> No.9485901

>>9485231
>What went wrong?

kronii doesnt enlarge herself to make her tits half the screen

>> No.9485954

Nothing

>> No.9485974

>>9485676
>sana
>the most lore
>the most powerful lore
>the least subs
My noggin is joggin

>> No.9485982

>>9485860
EN2 is worst than that anon

Susan is based to remove subs from them LMAO

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>>9485231
>no loli
>no eu hours
>over-the-top chuuni lore
>talents aren't comfortable with their lore
>the artist doesn't do art streams
>bizarre similar designs
>three of them are generic western white girls dressed as anime girls
>day one doxx yabs
>not a single one of them (even the rat) is actually coco or kiara-tier fluent in japanese
>kiara seething

idk how about (you) but I took the lessercorp/indiepill and I'm happy about it

>> No.9486170

>>9485231
Cover failed to hire good talents

>> No.9486206
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9486206

>Kronii 326k subs
>Mumei 268k subs
>Fauna 242k subs
>Baelz 236k subs
>Sana 156k subs

According to these numbers having boyfriends sells, no one cares about you or /vt/, you are a retard, and Lex Luthor won.

>> No.9486268

HoloBoyfriend Gen

>> No.9486379

>>9485676
>Everyone must not like it also
Even the Myth members shit on the lore which should tell you something.

>> No.9486393

>>9485982
If Susan didn't delete their numbers you would all be seething about how they lapped Myth in their first month and don't deserve it.

Don't act like you would act any different the goal posts are right here in the ground with concrete. Council is doing just as well as Myth was at this time. Myth was just as nervous and awkward. It wasn't until October that Myth started to get comfortable.

>> No.9486447

>>9486268
Boyfriends sell. Having boyfriends gets you big numbers and money. No one cares about seiso the numbers have spoken.

>> No.9486745

>>9486447
They could have 10 million subs. Still whores.

>> No.9486930

>>9485231
You were expecting some kind of creme of the crop top-tier entertainers and envelope pushers, but you got five average girls, who haven't yet done anything impressive.

>> No.9486984

>>9485548
Who is breaking down?

>> No.9487070

>>9485303
Capeshit schizo you are being too obvious

>> No.9487077

>>9486984
me

>> No.9487131

They mogged Myth too much.

>> No.9487315

>>9486379
God forbid, I know, but if you take a look at Twitter and Reddit, you'd find plenty of people - both Nips and EOPs - who seem to be really interested in it. Heck, a few nips even asked Omega if they were having plans for games and novels, which I believe only helped to embolden him.
Members (and 4ch) might not take it serious, but it doesn't mean it wasn't an interesting idea to many others

>> No.9487502

Too much focus on being a group.

>> No.9487790

>>9486745
Rich whores. Mumei has the 2nd highest SC numbers in council and the 2nd highest sub count.

Don't worry I am sure they sleep well at night.

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>>9486206
Sana...

>> No.9488009

>>9487913
On a bright note. Sana has the 3rd best SC numbers in Council. Here is the order.

>Kronii
>Mumei
>Sana
>Baelz
>Fauna

>> No.9488136

>>9488009
>Fauna caters to GFE asmr
>Is dead last on the sc numbers list

>> No.9490534

>>9487315
Funnily enough omega has given ZERO lore whatsoever yet, I don't think they even care enough to make coherent lore for them so they're just waiting for the girls themselves to make it

>> No.9490628

>>9485231
>chuunibyou theme
>Omegalul trans manager
>4/5 of them had shit debuts
>one of them is snoozeowl
>no EUs
>3 Americans thereby overlapping with most of HoloEN's established talent
>2 Aussies thereby overlapping with most of HoloJP's established talent
>stupid names that don't sound like real names just to push the chuuni bullshit (mainly Hakos)

>> No.9490661

>>9485676
To be fair he doesn't like and neither do I, that's everyone I give a shit about and also him.

>> No.9490674

>>9485231
>What went wrong?
you forgot your meds

>> No.9490697

>>9485860
>They're closer than they've ever been
>.....b....but they'll graduate soon guys, honestly!!!!
The cope of counciltroons is out of control

>> No.9490737

>>9485303
true.

>>9485676
I love lore. I don't love shit tryhard lore that ignores why lore is fun in the first place.

>>9487070
There appears to be a chip on your shoulder

>> No.9490756

>No EU
>dumb lore
>troon manager
>Mumei is boring as fuck
>none of them are really fun to watch
>their designs are fucking stupid

>> No.9490809

>>9487131
They've only mogged themselves. Myth were laughing about their stupid lore on stream. When Kiara punches down it's one thing but when all of them do? Damn. Counciltroons in shambles.

>> No.9490842

>>9490737
Sorry for noticing the obvious pattern or one autist not knowing JP chuuni bullshit and somehow calling something that has little to do with capeshit, capeshit.

>> No.9490850

Shit taste. EN1 brought in a ton of newfags that just clip Gura for memes, the new gen is much closer to what actual vtubers should be and still have hololive-buff tier numbers and great designs. I'm not surprised western ironic weabs aren't enjoying them, but it makes for a better experience IMO.

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>>9490850

>> No.9490890

>>9490809
Council laughed at it too, because they didn't take it seriously and know it's more about fan art and themes. Omega is also very light about it on her twitter. And in the Myth Collab they all took it easy too.
Except Kiara, who was annoyed, because only she, and you, are retarded enough to care about power creep in fucking Vtuber backstories

>> No.9490947

>>9490890
It's not power creep, it's just uninteresting, ultra generic, middle school nonsense.

It's called Chuunibyou or some other weeb shit, and it's very shit.

>> No.9490967

>>9485231
No cinderella stories, no grand tales of total poorfags coming from nothing, coming from days away from homelessness only to be saved by making it into Hololive and making a name for themselves.
All of Council were already well established and successful, and many of them had huge numbers of subscribers or attention beforehand.
Unironically, HoloCouncil has no soul.

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>>9485231
I thought they were honna be Gura killers?

>> No.9491059

Did that faggot Omega even do anything yet besides making snarky tweets?
If that's all there's going to be, what was the point of this character?

I feel as if someone in the EN2 management team went: "hey, remember how the whole lore of Enma/Jenma/J-Chad developed organically over time between the talents supplying morsels of bts information and the fans making fanarts of it, and everyone liked it and had a great time running with it?... Well WHAT IF we gave them the same thing and include an established manager character right from day one?!". Which is corporate manufactured as fuck, and they forget that the whole "fun" of the EN1 manager characters was how they developed organically and it wasn't a top down idea of some company faggot who wanted to push his self-insert god complex from some cosmic universe fanfiction

>> No.9491081

>5 shitters got picked instead of my oshi
>not a single fucking EU vtuber in the gen
>3 of them are fucking boring as hell
>My Oshi is better than all of these shitbirds.

>> No.9491107

>>9491010
Mumei is bidding her time. One day, on an off-collab, she will snap Gura's neck.

>> No.9491127

>>9490947
>It's called Chuunibyou or some other weeb shit, and it's very shit.
Go back

>> No.9491131

>>9491107
Mumei is boring.

>> No.9491135

>>9490967
Also all of EN2 came in knowing they would make big money, as opposed to EN1 who were going into uncharted waters.
So they all have the stench of fake gold digging whores to them.

>> No.9491151

>>9491131
You don't need to be entertaining to kill someone.

>> No.9491173

>>9488009
Fauna isn't last, play board fucked up. And she also keeps debuffing herself like an ape for some reason. Baelz is easily the worst income wise.

>> No.9491174

>>9491151
You can't unseat gura by being boring.

>> No.9491179

>>9486447
you need to try harder, maybe throw kiara in there

>> No.9491188

>>9491174
You can by sticking a knife in her neck.

>> No.9491225

>>9491188
I don't know what you're even talking about. Mumei is shit, I cannot believe people thought she was the gurakiller. Imagine any of these 5 being your oshi though. Fuck that must be a boring life.

>> No.9491227

>>9485231
I'm happy that my oshi got into Holo EN2 but damn her streams are a lot different now.

>> No.9491277

>>9491225
She will become the Gura killer by literally murdering her in real life, how is that hard to understand?

>> No.9491288

>>9491227
>one of gen2 is your oshi
https://files.catbox.moe/2v8f8f.mp4

>> No.9491440

>>9490842
>word salad
you're in too deep, friend. You're losing your humanity.

>> No.9491472

>>9491277
Gura is alive and well you dumbfuck

>> No.9491510

>>9491472
Anon... You dont have to pretend anymore. That accident was nobody's fault.

>> No.9491547

>>9491440
Word salad my fist

>> No.9491577

>>9491059
I honestly think they are just adding all this dumb lore so they can make an anime and a gacha game.

>> No.9491675

>>9485231
Nothing.

>> No.9491871

>>9485231
Everything.

>> No.9491939

>>9491547
>boop aloop big doober I cant admit im stupid
ego attachment is a poison friend

>> No.9491954

>>9485231
HoloMyth was lightning in a bottle, plain and simple. HoloCouncil is everything people were afraid HoloMyth would be.

>> No.9491961

>>9485231
Cover made a mistake by trying to create a HoloMyth 2.0
Result: massive recline of both gens at least until the next gen debuts.

>> No.9491963

Cover should have listened to Moot

>> No.9491978

>>9485231
Just like with EN1, I watched a week of stream, dropped it and went back to my oshi.

>> No.9492014

>>9486984
Sana

>> No.9492190

>>9491954
Which is?

>> No.9492299

>>9485231
When Vshojo was introduced, we realized Cover were great at picking up talents and that EN could have been WAY worse. They could have been Vshojo. We completely dodged a bullet with HoloMyth.
... And now we got hit by another bullet. HoloCouncil is basically everything we feared we would get when EN was announced.

>> No.9492578

>>9485231
boobs too big

>> No.9492711

>>9485231
People say "failure" because Gura set unrealistic expectations in their mind that nobody is ever going to meet. It's been a year, the bandwagoners are starting to lose interest, and I'm fine with that because this isn't like other hobbies where big numbers are always good. Some of the members are clearly stressed out by their popularity and prefer a smaller fanbase. And that's fine because this doesn't have to be a job where it's your main source of income. Some people just want to use it to relax. So if all you care about is numbers, good, I'm glad you're leaving. It weeds out the people who were contributing nothing and will result in a much better community in the long run. Because this is going to be going for a long time. It's not going to stop just because you personally are done with it. Remember that as you wallow in your cynicism, and suffer.

>> No.9493312

They tried their best to reach more different niches, but it resulted in self-cannibalization because there is still too many overlap...

And there is a limit of how many people enjoy vtubers in general.

>> No.9493458

>>9486447
>implying I donate to those with bfs
>implying I donate

>> No.9493525

>>9491961
I don't see the overlap with EN1

>> No.9493550

>>9492190
just kind of bland and dissapointing

>> No.9493596
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>REEEE SHE HAS A GIRLFRIEND
>STOP DONATING TO THESE WHORES!
Excuse me did you say something I was just sending my big fat aka to Mumei. Haha she is so soft and cute.

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>>9491961
They look pretty comfy reclining.

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do you faggots ever shut up

>> No.9493809

>>9485601
They tried with IRyS tho kek

>> No.9493821

>>9493596
You act like it's something to be proud of? You're a goddamn loser willingly cucking yourself out of your own money for something you actively know is a delusion. There is little I can do or say to make you look worse than you already do.

>> No.9493834

>>9486170
this is the one. I don't give a fuck about numbers; they're just bland and none of them really have a niche/actual talent. other than sana i guess. fauna can whisper into a microphone, kronii has a deep voice, rat can speak japanese, and owl exists. just not much going on there. cover probably had all kinds of talent auditioning for this group, but they somehow ended up with... this. honestly baffles me

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>>9493761
Just end it, Sana

>> No.9493866

>>9493834
You clearly don't watch Fauna because anyone can tell you her game streams and even her zatsudans are better than her ASMR.

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>>9493835
finally, peace

>> No.9493919

>>9493821
Then why are you here? Go be a failed normalfag somewhere else.

>> No.9493936

>>9493866
fair enough, can't pretend like I've gone out of my way to watch her. but even then, there's 1 artist and 1 gamer, and 3 nothings.

>> No.9493957

>>9485231
>pulling fewer viewers than Vshoujo whores

>> No.9493962

>>9493936
Haven't watched Sana either, she's actually a very solid gamer.

>> No.9493966

>>9485231
rrat and asmr chick. no one can out rrat pekora

>> No.9494000

itt: threadreaders who don't watch streams

>> No.9494023

So Coco went through Gen 1 EN's potentials right. How much you wanna bet this shitshow is the result of them no longer being able to lean on her for hiring.

>> No.9494058

>>9488136
Pistachios percolating

>> No.9494099

>>9494023
This is the only rrat I believe.

>> No.9494206

>>9485489
What does Japanese have to do with VTubers?

>> No.9494257

>>9486984
Sana

>> No.9494271

>>9485231
No lolis or chestlets

>> No.9494359

>>9485860
pretty sure their contract requires them to stream for a year. so they've got basically a week left before they're allowed to graduate. so... we'll see

>> No.9494399

stfu newfag ad go back to your cringe normie tier holoMyth

>> No.9494472

>>9486206
Reminder Sana had 100k subs removed (20k, then 30k then another 50k).

>> No.9494773

>>9486745
Having a boyfriend makes you a whore?

>> No.9494797

New recruiters only looked at numbers, existing vtubers, and Ina's friend, then threw out 90% of applications.

>> No.9494824

>>9485231
Omegatranny

>> No.9494909

>>9491472
Holy shit, you're so retarded it hurts

>> No.9495191

>>9485705
Fuck off cover shill

>> No.9495234

>>9485838
Oh yeah you're right. They hired some zionist golem or something.

>> No.9495319

>>9492014
Elaborate

>> No.9495345

>>9495319
watch streams
her superchat one

>> No.9495391

>>9494773
No, but it does disqualify you from being an idol or even claiming to have anything to do with the culture. That's the problem. Westerners just go "lol who cares" without understanding that the idol-like qualities including the stage personality aka kayfabe are elemental to why Holo is successful and why they like it, more likely than not.

>> No.9495505

>>9491081
Don't even know who your oshi is but I believe you

>> No.9495605

>>9485601
>calarts vtuber
Imagine

>> No.9495644

>>9493596
Canadian hands typed this

>> No.9495668

>>9495345
>breaking down
>cried tears of joy because her streams, the ones where shes doin what she wants, are being well received
>breaking down

ogey

>> No.9495674

>>9493866
People keep saying this and it makes me think Fauna might have actually done herself a disservice by pitching herself as the "ASMR" girl of her gen. A lot of people who like her say that they don't even like ASMR.

>> No.9495757

>>9493834
The person they hired to scout gen2 clearly only cares about infecting hololive with zionist bullshit

>> No.9495793

>>9493919
Fuck off back to /reddit/ cuck

>> No.9496042

>>9485231
Your birth

>> No.9496374

They're a middle-generation. Solid but unimpressive. But then again it's only been a few weeks so I'll give it time. It took a while for Kiara to slowly gain confidence and grow, and it was only when Mori lost her job and recovered mentally she went full power. I'm sure the council is a similar case, and I'm watching rrat and owl closely for that. If anything, my only complaint towards them is
>hiring professional vtubers instead of wildcards
>>9495674
That was always her niche, though. Even in her past life. If anything it just follows the holo tradition of them being better outside of their supposed designated roles. In Fauna's case, she's actually good at videogames. And Kronii is playing games meant for Mumei.

>> No.9497148

>>9496374
The way Cover is operating it's looking like you can basically just organize all indies by their sub counts and predict not if but when they'll get in, either from applying or getting scouted.

NijiEN on the other hand does bring in some pretty unexpected people with varying results. Petra, finana, elira etc were all small fry, finana being essentially a vtweeter. Selen was recognized but was really also a 2view fundamentally. Pomu was a small indie whose name I had heard like, 3 times ever before she graduated. Yet their chuubas manage to interact with each other with actually-really-good chemistry and feel natural together; if you put those same people in place of HoloEN2 you would not have been able to tell a difference in quality at all if not think Cover are once again wicked amazing geniuses finding such capable people out of thin air.

Worse yet all 6 of the NijiENs got through with proper opsec, enough to not have stupid yabs hobbling them right out the gate. Cover not only had this happen with Aloe but twice with EN2 now, I really do not fucking trust them anymore and cannot believe they didn't learn from their mistakes with Aloe. This all isn't to say NijiEN is so great, it's just ok and I literally haven't watched them for months - it's more like Cover is actually that fucking bad in comparison and NijiEN is doing a better job copying Holo right now than Holo itself is performing. If I may stretch a metaphor Cover acts like and is treated like Apple and Anycolor is like Android/Samsung in specific - one has this mystique of being different and uniquely better but really isn't actually functionally better than the other option besides for personal taste reason of apps (chuubas in this case).

>> No.9497154

>>9485231
None of their boyfriends are (me).

>> No.9499656

>>9485768
>Who

>> No.9499758

>>9485231
No cunny
Literally doomed to fail.

>> No.9500377

>>9490890
>her

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>>9485231
They're OK.

>> No.9500469

>>9485231
The rat debuted last and someone else took the personality she was going to use

>> No.9500485

>>9485231
Holoen 1 feels like 4chan
>https://streamable.com/2mdj71

while Holoen 2 feels like Reddit

Everything 4chan is bound to become popular while Redditors are cursed with get woke go broke.

>> No.9500535

>>9500485
>get woke go broke
Did something happend? What woke shit occur?

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>> No.9500852

You have shittaste

>> No.9500951

>>9500535
The voices in his head finally went woke, please understand.

>> No.9501127

>>9485601
>western art style

Western art style is ugly as fuck and would be a total failure.

>> No.9501338

>>9500633
what happened to kronii, i just discovered that she is less popular now and with less viewers what did i miss?

>> No.9501408

>>9485231
They don't have the loli/pettan boost from gen 1 like Gura, so no one really cared

>> No.9501594

>>9501408
shut up pedo

>> No.9501679

>>9501594
Cope and seethe retard, I'm not even a gura stan
Your oshi is more like oSHIT

>> No.9501712

>>9501338
Nothing really, just the new hotness effect faded Now it's up to how good their streams are to retain/grow their audience

>> No.9501751

>>9501679
don't care, people who likes lolis are pedos, you can't change my mind.

>> No.9501756

>>9501594
>incel malding his favourite streamer is irrelevant
kekkers

>> No.9501825

weird designs. they're a "council" but they have no cohesive theme between the models. also the black one looks almost as bad as IRyS and the rat is overdesigned garbage. the cringe forced lore bullshit is a huge deterrent as well.

couldn't tell you anything else i was too filtered by the designs to even bother watching a single stream

>> No.9501861

>>9495345
>superchat stream
oh fuck off

>> No.9501909

>>9501751
Lmao, touch grass chud

>> No.9501965

>>9494472
Tbf, they all lost quite a few subs.

>> No.9502009

>>9485231
Your mom didn't abort you

>> No.9502010
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>>9501751

>> No.9502016

>>9495391
Lol who cares.

>> No.9502067

>>9501861
You weren't gonna watch regardless of what stream he said, anon.

>> No.9502081

Holomyth sustained itself off its own popularity. You can't deliberately recreate a snowball that big. People need to understand that almost none of Hololive's success is the result of planning or intelligence. HoloEN2 is simply what HoloMyth would have been if they didn't get lucky.

>> No.9502096

>>9501594
>>9501751
back to twitter

>> No.9502238

>>9485380
There's lore?

>> No.9502306

>>9490697
I could see Gura actually dying since she's refusing to see doctors.
Ame isn't well either but at least she's looking into it.
You'll have to pry the position from Ina's dead hands, she ain't leaving.
Mori seems more stable than she was months ago.
I don't care about Kiara.

>> No.9502615

>>9486119
Which one even is the artist?

>> No.9502743

>>9501965
doesn't change the fact that Sana was hit the hardest out of all of them

>> No.9502842

>>9487315
This is a bad thing, because only gives that troon more excuses to talk Yagoo into tapping into gacha shit

>> No.9502855 [DELETED] 

>>9502615
Sans is an actual pro who draws for a living. She got involved in the whole vtuber bussines to prove herself that there is more yo her than just drawing, hance why she downplays it.

>> No.9503325

>>9485231
well I'd say this board being filled with pedo nazi zoomers is a big problem.

>> No.9503363

>>9502306
based tako will be the last chuuba standing

>> No.9503654

>>9491173
Debuffing how?

>> No.9503712

T(2)oo many aussie niggeretes in one generation.

>> No.9503745

>>9485231
I felt nothing for them before.
Then I went to the doxxblog sites.
Now I hate them.

>> No.9503866

>>9490967
This. I like Myth because it has SOUL. Even the holo with the 1m sub past life account had her own reason to join Hololive; she wanted to be free of the Memelord status she cursed herself in. Council's 1m sub past life account joined because what? She wanted to buy condoms for her boyfriend?

>> No.9504032

>>9485231
>remove the darkie, green girl and owl
>add Irys
There, it's fixed.

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>>9485231
>What went wrong?
>a big tit deadfish with VA skills that she beats like a dead horse, and literally nothing else.
>sana, who doesnt even draw on stream because Ina doesnt want to lose her niche
>mumei, who sings like a negress for some reason
>average as fuck ASMRtist (if you can even call that a talent)
>ollie clone
>quite literally 1 sense of humour, shared between all 5 of them, and 0 personality from all of them.

en1 has way more fuckin talent.
>gura- born entertainer and unmatched at improv, wonderful singer. voice is naturally asmr
>Ina, can draw, also natural asmr
>Ame, equally entertaing as gura and actually funny regularly, makes up for lack of talent, with immense creativity in making fun streams
>Kiara, can draw, can sing, unbelievably extroverted , stamina as fuck can stream for entire lengths of a day, and is the most productive
>Calli, equally talented as Kiara, but produces music that is not actually bad
>personalities are unbelievably colorful and mixed, its a miracle they get along so well. Truly a motley crew, their presence and group image is iconic.

>> No.9504256

>>9504131
>Ame
>immense creativity
That's when I knew this was a joke post, haha good one bro!

>> No.9505133

>>9485231
Doing yandere mommy bait GFE ASMR while having a boyfriend is the most retarded thing I've ever seen in my life

>> No.9505139

>>9503866
ITT fags coping the fact that pity is the only thing that let the rest of Holomyth have a third of the numbers as Gura

>> No.9505216

>>9485231
i fucked kronii too hard

>> No.9505588

>>9505139
Weak bait. Have a pity (You).

>> No.9505717

>>9485231
>jabber
>slut
>tranny
>slut
>fujo
What was Yagoo thinking?

>> No.9505734

This is why I switched to indies.Unironically there are western indies who are more like JP holo than EN2

>> No.9505809

>>9495391
You mean being fake?
Because that's what kayfabe means. I'll never get why pro-wrestling terms ended up in the idol vernacular, just call it being method or something that doesn't straight up mean make-believe bullshit to fool marks.

>> No.9505949

>>9485231
Nothing. They'll all carve out their own niches and be plenty successful. Despite what /vt/ and all of their bitter pants-shitting tribalism would like you to believe.

>> No.9506022

>>9485231
What went wrong is the owl didn't bother wiping her roommate's previous works and tried at least changing the way she moans
https://youtu.be/42vnQxUUS6c

>> No.9506345

>>9506022
>2 hours ago
i don't buy it

>> No.9506491

>>9490737
Yea simple lore is best as the girls can play around with it
Ex gura can say something about her childhood and still talk about Atlantis and not lore break but like how tf is time and space going to talk about that stuff

>> No.9506633

>>9506022
Are you ESL by chance? Because that sounds nothing like the owl.

>> No.9506898

>>9501338
saw her roommate pic today, just looks like the average asian girl, she has a Fire Emblem titty figurine

>> No.9506934

>>9506898
Mind sharing, anon daddy?

>> No.9506970

>>9506898
Where?

>> No.9506998

>>9506898
You got some sauce or breadcrumbs I can follow? Kronii and Bae are the last ones I'm missing in my ratt collection

>> No.9507067

>>9501338
Probably the game she plays.

Frostshit isn't really as entertaining as the memes and council in general fluctuates viewers depending on what they play.

They just haven't figured out how to sellout to their general audience.
>minecraft
>minecraft
>minecraft

>> No.9507110

Hiring roasties. This would be the downfall of Cover.

>> No.9507121

>>9506934
>>9506970
>>9506998
Haha, no, Piglet.

>> No.9507169

>>9507121
I call bs

>> No.9507310

>>9507169
You're learning.

>> No.9507361

>>9507067
please no

>> No.9507571

>>9507110
This

>> No.9507690

>>9485231
Nothing. They’re doing fine.
More cohesive and entertaining than all of Myth combined, not including Gura.

>> No.9507698

>>9507121
>My uncle works for Nintendo, the post

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>>9506934
>>9506970
>>9506998
>>9507169
>>9507698

>> No.9508024

>>9485231
EN

>> No.9508427

>no one can sing for shit
>shitty taste in game
>shitty western culture a.k.a. woke culture
>content as dry as wall paint past the first month
What else?

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>>9505717
>>tranny
Fuck this I’m taking a two day vacation bye

>> No.9508931

>>9508854
What a cutie

>> No.9509004

>>9508854
Wide birthing hips

>> No.9509107

>>9508854
https://youtu.be/00CnutUU3l4
She's this classic-loving white french girl is my headcanon now. Bye.

>> No.9509227

>>9485231
Honestly they're just kind of generic. Like JP2.

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It's that time of the day when the SEAnigs come out and bump their antiEN threads. Put your fishing poles away and get back to your third-world "lives"

>> No.9509329

>>9508854
Wait is this actually her? Are anon's just guessing she's trans because she dresses plainly? Fuckin' retards, that is a born female look at the hips/stance.

>> No.9509379

>>9509234
It's too early for Seaniggers who stay up all night and are asleep in the morning because they're bums

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>>9507067
>Probably the game she plays.
Bingo. Kronii is playing to her VA strengths and that's boring to most retards who need bright flashing colors to keep them entertained.
She's perfect.

>> No.9509420

>>9509227
Generic? They each have unique themes/styles and very different personalities. Watching one of their streams is a completely different experience from another.

And I would say their true personalities are already becoming dominant over any role-playing they had towards their character.

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>>9507110
Sorry you haven't touched a vagina since birth

>> No.9509485

>>9508854
for me it's MOOD: LANR3T3

>> No.9509514

>>9509451
Pretty sure their uncle has used their mouth as a vagina once or twice

>> No.9509538

>>9509379
Seanigs never sleep, too busy putting screens on iPhones

>> No.9509544

>>9509329
These people are just niggers pushing their rrats and conspiracy theories. Pay them no mind. Anyone who thinks Kronii is anything other than 100% big tittied woman is fucking tone deaf and can’t hear the most womanly voice ever presented to them.

>> No.9509595

>>9509329
Because her voice isn't extremely female she must be a dude in disguise

>> No.9509632

>>9509538
The two to three antis who keeps recycling bait threads wouldn't have lasted a week if that's the case.

It would've been better if they actually dropped dead by now

>> No.9509711

>>9509544
Exactly. She sounds like a full grown woman who's ready to birth my child and provide titty milk for both of us. She can't be anything other than my baby mama

>> No.9509845

>>9490628
hehehehehehhehehehe
She's called balls

>> No.9509945

>>9509329
No cuz doxxnigger cherry-picking pics as proof

>> No.9510034

>>9509329
They claim she is ftm, i don't care either way, doesn't matter what she thinks she is, i'll still sex her in the vagina

>> No.9510086

>>9510034
>They claim she is ftm
Why would Hololive someone who identifies as male? And why would she even want a very obviously female avatar? Doxxfags are stupid.

>> No.9510101

>>9507995
Gonna need evidence to link this pic to her there Mr.Wright

>> No.9510161

>>9510034
No way they genuinely believe their own bullshit.

They just say that to stir up timefags

>> No.9510300

>>9505133
Why?

>> No.9510333

>>9509329
do your reps LMAO
>Scared of finding out the truth LOL

>> No.9510388

>>9510034
No the rrats mostly claim she is mtf. It’s bullshit though. She clearly is a woman. And the idea that Chadgoo would hire trannies when he has a dream to complete is ridiculous.

>> No.9510411

>>9485231
Rat was overhyped, other than that nothing.

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>>9485231
Kronii didn't become instantly pregnant the day she debuted

>> No.9510624

>>9510388
DO your reps or maybe your a coomer fag and scared to find out the truth LOL

>> No.9510747

>>9510624
Don't you have deliveries to make, blue-collar
seanigger?

>> No.9511394

>>9510747
LMAO classic blaming your own SEAnigs mentality/companion just admit that your scared coomer to find out the truth

>> No.9511465

>>9485231
hear me out, i'm not shitposting. if they get these people instead:
>Pomu
>Pikamee
>Selen
>Elira
>Lyrica

>> No.9511514

>>9511465
*they would be praised by everyone on this board. I'm saying the best talent isn't always the best indie sub talent. Pekora was a literal nobody on NND, and look at her now.

>> No.9511606

>>9510086
Because the rules never EXPLICITLY said only women were allowed to apply*, only that they weren't auditioning male characters

*because this would be legally problematic for a burger

>> No.9511646

>>9511394
Vast majority of antis are seanigs. You didn't deny it.

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>>9510579
>mumei will never try to rape her, fail, and get raped in return

>> No.9511823

>>9511394
You're one confused Seanigger

>> No.9511892

>>9511465
>Not shitposting
>Pomu
FOH NIJJER FAGGOT

>> No.9511929

>>9511892
You would rather have the rat over Pomu? Come on.

>> No.9512038

>>9511929
I would rather have a mindbroken bukkake Lilypichu over an established Nijjer "talent"

>> No.9512191

>>9491174
>>9491225
>>9491472
Watch Mumei's and Gura's meeting in Minecraft, this is painful

>> No.9512199

Haven’t really been watching or following this gen. Who has a boyfriend?

>> No.9512339

>>9512199
All of them.
And I'm the BF.
They don't know they are being 5 timed yet, god helps me when they find out.

>> No.9512342

>>9512199
Everyone because they're not 4chan niggers whose lives revolves around obsessing over their perceived egf who are in reality entertainers, who are btw in no way engaged in a personal relationship with them.

>> No.9512484

>>9512199
Sana and Kronii

>> No.9512490

>>9512199
None of them, but Kronii is fucking Mumei and Baelz is gonna be Roboco's house bitch.

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>>9512339
Kek
>>9512342
I’m definitely in the minority here, but I generally just watch hololive because they’re cute and funny. But I can understand why people wouldn’t be happy if they brought up a bf on stream.
Did they bring it up? Or did someone just doxx Kronii and find out she gets taken to pound town?

>> No.9512538

>>9512342
Normal people don't go and pretend to be 2D girls online anon

>> No.9512682

>>9512532
Holo never brings bfs up. They are the most professional Vtuber group in the industry and should be the standard imo.

Meanwhile you have indies and Vshit who can't forgo without talking about how much they like dick and how fat the chode they last sucked on was

>> No.9512697

>>9509329
>They/Them
>Deep but sexy voice
>VA for male and female characters
I can understand why she went the gender fluid route, at least for her online persona. Not sure if she made people IRL adress her as They/Them.

>> No.9512828

>>9512682
They’ve sacked a few talents over stuff like this. It isn’t impossible that someone let it slip on stream.

>> No.9512842

>>9512538
There's a market for it and it's an honest living.
And "pretend" is a severe underestimation of your intelligence here, anon.
I'm pretty sure both sides are aware that the chuubas are in fact, not 2D girls.

>> No.9512892

>>9512697
Literally none of this is true.
None.
None.
None.

>> No.9513006

>>9512697
When she was an indie vtuber she may have thought answering in an vague way might have been interesting. Or maybe she had been influenced by politics online at the time.

Either way, she is clearly 100% mommy milkies, gimme some milky, big titty woman. It’s obvious.

Also, for extra measure. she was born in Korea and grew up in a Korean family. I doubt highly there was any gender swap funny business going on there.

>> No.9513062

>>9512892
it is true

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>>9508854
>>9512892
Anyone else think that Kronii is in this thread, coping and seething?

>> No.9513733

>>9513324
Hopefully so she can know I'll be nutting all over her mature body all night

>> No.9514758

>>9485489
>EoPs are cancer on any Japanese medium.

why thank you. i hope JAV panders to EOPs more

>> No.9514806

>>9513324
I think you might be a nigger.

>> No.9514895

>>9485231
They want to be as social as NijiEN, while still following the straight and narrow of HoloEN

>> No.9515032 [DELETED] 

>>9514895
I think they just actually all like each other and have chemistry. All 5 of them seem to enjoy hanging out with each other.

Myth in comparison is very fractured. Very few collars, and some girls never collab with other girls in their own branch. When’s the last time Ina or Ame collabed with Kiara, or with each other?

>> No.9515588

>>9514895
>"They want to be anything like NijiEN"
Niji niggers really make everything about them

There's nothing wrong with council, Nijjer.
That will only change if they try to copy 2nd rate chuuba's like Niji monkeys

>> No.9515605

>>9513324
If anything she's probably happy people find her attractive, as a lonely asian femcel.

>> No.9515717

>>9485231
boyf*****s
what was clover thinking? it's obvious girls who already have someone caring for them and loving them will not be as invested in their vtubing career and just treat it as a side thing, what a beginner's mistakeKA

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