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Which is the better gen?

>> No.9465257

>>9465082
Without holo fantasy, hololive is just another unknown agency

>> No.9465293

Marine betrayed her overseas sexy guys so EN wins

>> No.9465312

Pekora vs. Gura. Then, there’s just the rabble.

>> No.9465343

>>9465082
Even as a myth fan I do agree Holofantasy is better

>> No.9465539

>>9465082
Definitely Holofantasy
>All members are on the top of SC rankings
>Sponsorships to the moon
>1M subs without having any member fluent in English
>Marine and Pekora mogs Gura in live viewers

>> No.9465748

>>9465082
Isn't Fantasy like the standard of what every corpo vtuber would like to be part of? And for my personal tastes it is better too.

>> No.9465953

>>9465082
Gamers

>> No.9465960

>>9465082
Kiara> the rest
she is literally the only one with real talent in all hololive

>> No.9466063

the amount of cope in this thread

>> No.9466140

>>9465960
The sheer audacity of this bait is no monsterous.

>> No.9466160

>>9465539
>Top SC
Ofc their 2 years in the industry while Myth is close to 1 year yet still fairly in the top of it

>> No.9466283

>>9466140
>egg
take your meds

>> No.9466285

>>9466160
even in the monthly scs Myth is pretty far behind
https://playboard.co/en/youtube-ranking/most-superchatted-all-channels-in-worldwide-monthly

>> No.9466312

>>9465082
Fantasy only has 1 weak member while Myth has 2, so probably Fantasy. Fantasy has the advantage of having all of Cover's resources at their disposal, so they can make more varied content. Myth's best members can compete with the best members of Fantasy pretty well though. Gura has broken plenty of records that Fantasy has set.

>> No.9466341

>>9466160
Rushia made more this month than Mori, Kiara and Gura combined

>> No.9466406

>>9466140
It is bait most KFP knew every holo has it's own talent and would not compare her to others and just enjoy her as is

>> No.9466480

>>9465082
Fantasy by mile
SC department has rushia and flare
Marine top tier zatsu streamer plus able to carry any collab she's part of
Both pekora and gura bring numbers to their respective side but Pekora able to boost up numbers in a big collab or 1 on 1 collab as opposed to Gura ( collab almost like debuff for her )
The only thing that on par is Noel and Mori big tiddie

>> No.9466862

>>9465082
it's not really a fair fight, even though they are 1st and 2nd in Hololive right now, Fantasy wins by a landslide

>> No.9467204
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>>9465082
Fantasy by far, only Kiara could actually compete with all of them but her genmates are a very obvious debuff
>you know this is true and if you say otherwise you have shittaste and should take your meds

>> No.9467958

>>9465960
>>9466283
>>9467204
why are kfp like this?

>> No.9468703

The only member that comes close is Gura because of her sub count, but 70% of them are deadsubs who don't even watch her anymore. Fantasy destroys them and it's not close.

>> No.9469208

>>9468703
eggschizo take your meds
Kiara mogs gura in every metric

>> No.9469421

>>9465082
Pekora, Marine and Rushia are white-hot and the flagships of Hololive.
Flare and Noel are high but quite high enough, on the level of the likes of Shuba and Botan.

Gura is an absolute juggernaut, even mogging the OG Kizuna. But insanely enough she has even more potential... wasted because Cover morons don't realize her talent for shitposty-music videos, capable of reaching 10M+ views. like the ones in her old channel
Calli is the top chat earner in all HoloEN and could be one of the biggest Holos but she is impeded because of her own disinterest and lack of enthusiasm for Minecraft, which is a guaranteed boost and a vtuber essential.
Kiara and Ina are meh. Ame is overhyped by the fandom with meh viewership and SC earning.

>> No.9470080

>>9469421
>Kiara is meh
>having shittaste
your argument is invalid sir

>> No.9473478

>>9467958
He probably isn't and just trying to bait people or if he is he should stop he is making us look bad

t.kfp

>> No.9473588

>>9465082
Gen 3 leads in views.

EN Gen 1 leads in subscribers.

>> No.9473600

I like 2 members of HoloFantasy and think the other 3 are okay enough.
I love 1 member of HoloMyth, think 2 are just okay, and hate 2.
HoloFantasy wins.

>> No.9473639

>>9465257
Korone and Coco aren't fantasy though?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeXatquVqAc

>> No.9473731

>>9473639
Korone took awhile to come out of her shell and become the juggernaut that she is today.
Coco might not have joined Hololive if not for Holofantasy growing the brand and giving it some legitimacy.

>> No.9473852

>>9465082
Any gen Kiara is in, is the best one.

I love chicken.

>> No.9473875

>>9465082
I love Holomyth but it's Holofantasy hands down.

>> No.9474217

>>9465082
Considering Myth is just a copy-paste version of Gen4, I'd say EN takes the takes. Hololive ONLY got popular when Gen 4 made their debut, and they got even more popular when EN made their debut. The Color pallets; BLUE, PURPLE, PINK, BLUE and YELLOW. are the winning colors. Gen3 is lucky that they have Pekora and Marine because without them Gen3 is shit gen #1. No one will try to disagree because (You) all know I'm speaking FACTS.

>> No.9474380

>>9474217
You forgot orange. But I agree. Marine is an Orangy color and Pekora is a bluey color. No wonder they are both popular. Gen4 colors are the winning formula it seems.

>> No.9474407

>>9474217
How new?

>> No.9474433

>>9465082
that's not even a serious question. holofantasy by farrrr

gamers vs. holomyth is a more balanced contest; and gamers would also win

>> No.9474450

>>9473478
every fucking thread kfp's act like this, what are you talking about? even the most irrelevant of threads, they are always one of you fuckers derailing it into Kiara. Just wtf is wrong with you all?

>> No.9474482

>>9468703
Most of the subscribes of all holo members are deadsubs

>> No.9474552

>>9465082
Among them I watch
>Gura and Ame
>Pekora and Marine
Myth definitely wins. Mori and Ina have their respective niche. Kiara is ok.

>> No.9474585

>>9474450
Fandoms are mix of different people anon. If he is one of us just ignore him hes is trying to bait eggs.

>> No.9474589

>>9474450
Chat reflects the streamer, it's MEMEMEMEMEME.

Kiara is the trashiest member of EN.

>> No.9474656

>>9465082
If we put them together and let them fight, who would win? As much as I love Fantasy, I gotta give it to Myth since they got a literal Eldritch god, not to mention whatever Gura is and Death herself, and a Phoenix

>> No.9474695

>>9474589
so much this, Kfp is the worst fandom by far, so toxic

>> No.9474726

>>9473731
Miko also played a big role, she's the one who originally went viral.
Reducing Hololive's success to a single gen is disingenuous.

>> No.9474733
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>>9474217
Amelia, Gura and Ina are all Myth need to be considered a top tier gen.
Amelia = Coco of EN
Gura = Kanata of EN
Ina = Towa of EN

Watame = Mori deathbraps with a tinge of kiara depressive episodes
Luna = Kiara's cartoon level voice

Gen4 is the blueprint for success for real.

>> No.9474739

>>9474656
But Rushia can raise the dead so if one of the Fantasy dies she can just revive them

>> No.9474766

>>9474656
Gura is a regular Atlantean and Mori is a regular shinigami. I feel like people definitely overrate them in powerlevel discussions.

>> No.9474878

>>9474656
>>9474766
Ina is a priestess, and she's said herself that she's out of practice. Ame also tends to downplay her abilities.
Mori and Kiara like to make themselves look super op, and Gura claimed to have some degree of super strength.

>> No.9474902

>>9468703
>The only member that comes close is Gura because of her sub count
Just look at Gura's channel and Pekora or Marine's channel. Gura destroys them with VOD views with less stream time and CCV.

>> No.9475024

>>9474407
Sit down kid. I've been here since the great Kizuna/kaguya vtuber inception. I know more than some EN bandwagonner who only started watching Vtubers because of hype. I'm referring to (You) by the way. Touch grass. Get laid. And finally have some sex.

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>>9474407
EN bandwaggoner spotted? EN bandwaggoner spotted.

>> No.9475092

Didn't realize this was a numberfag thread

>> No.9475134

Fantasy wins pretty easily. Two of the top viewed Holos + the top earner. Noel is a really solid mid-tier Holo and even Flare, as the runt, is better off than most other gens weakest person. Months ago I would have said Myth but the decline in western interest in vtubers has hit them fairly hard vs JPs, and they finally have some competition in EN2 and Niji EN. They're still a solid #2 for gens though.

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>>9465082
fantasy and its not even fucking close

>> No.9475165

>>9465257
Korone, Coco, and Miko aren't fantasy though?
Hololive literally got big in the west because:
>Eekum Bokum, Water in Fire WHY, and other shit Korone's said
>Miko saying, "niggaaa ~"
>Coco doing stupid shit

Hololive unironically owes those 3 for blowing them up and allowing holomyth to exist.

>> No.9475197

>>9475165
>muh clips

>> No.9475221

>>9475197
again, those clips are the reason that hololive and vtubers fucking exploded a year ago.
Hell, Miko was even gonna quit being a Vtuber before she blew up and become one of the most popular vtuber.

>> No.9475397

Fantasy. The quality of holomyth seems to have decreased a lot since their debut. They got used to the job and are just going with the flow. On the other hand, every fantasy member seems to be trying their best even after so long.

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9475413

I enter the thread only to find numberfaggots equating Quality to Numbers. That absolute state of these threads. EN1 Moggs from the sheer virtue of them possessing the better personality, the better skills and overall the better character.
Amelia's GFE >>>> Rushias GFE
Gura's meme comedy >>>> Pekora
Ina drawing skills >>>>> Marine
Kiara's Music >>>>> Flare's music
Mori's farts >>>>>> Noel's Milk

>> No.9475431

I don't speak japanese so there's really only one answer I can give you

>> No.9475475

>>9465082
Pekora and Marine alone are worth more than all of EN1 put together

>> No.9475517

>>9475413
>Amelia's GFE >>>> Rushias GFE
True. I can't argue against this. We wouldn't have goslings with Ame.
>Gura's meme comedy >>>> Pekora
I can't understand peko comedy or japanese so gura wins.
>Ina drawing skills >>>>> Marine
Ina has worked for acclaimed studios. Unfair comparison. Still true though
>Kiara's Music >>>>> Flare's music
True. Smile and Go is shit. Sorry flare.
>Mori's farts >>>>>> Noel's Milk
Unironically Mori's best music to date. I have "Mori Calliope's rancid Deathfarts .mp3" on replay

>> No.9475850

>>9474739
Fuck the thought of Rushia raising a lifeless corpse of a 3rd gen creep me out. And then the corpse gonna fight fight fight with no trace of the original personality left

>> No.9475983

Lovecraftian horror > fantasy, so Holomyth wins automatically

>> No.9476016

>>9475983
This

>> No.9476192

>>9474878
That said, I notice EN branches tend to have elaborate lore compare to JP even tho they have only 2 gen. Holo Council are quite literally the foundations of the universe and Holo Myth harbor all the incredible monsters from various mythology
Lore-wise, the only JP gen that can even scratch any of the EN is Fantasy

>> No.9476505

>>9475413
>meme comedy
>le farts xd
reddit: the post

>> No.9476593

>>9476505
i mean, he's an EN fanboy so it checks out

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Kino battle

>> No.9477385

EN Myth is discount Gen4. No originality. Just copy-and-past rush job.

>> No.9478645

>Subs
Myth win
>Live views
Fantasy win
>SCs
Fantasy win
>Memberships
Myth win
>Music
Myth win
>Sponsor
???

>> No.9478916

>>9465082
The one which speaks a language I understand, simple as that, can't be the "better gen" if you still talk in some dead language no one care about

>> No.9478952
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>>9465257
You mean without Hololive GAMERS

>> No.9479003

>>9465082
Fatansy have 2 untalented deadweights in Flare and Noel while only Amelia is like that in Myth. So Myth wins.

>> No.9479023

>>9475197
this was about what made it popular, so yes, clips are a huge reason of Hololive getting popular in the west, doesn't matter if you like those or not

>> No.9479351

Pekora is delightfully autistic and i love her.

Marine is probably one of the funniest girls in all of Hololive. If you watched her streams beyond the "coomer bait" stuff, you would have noticed. Great improv skills too.

Rushia is one of my favorites so I'm very biased when it comes to this but she alone slays anyone from Holomyth. Funny, cute, silly as fuck, great fan service. She is streaming for a long time and is still beyond amazing with her fans. And she was like that even before Hololive, when the askaspa money started flowing. So you cant say she is faking it for the money.

>> No.9481146

>>9473731
>Korone took awhile to come out of her shell
I don't understand why people say this when she's still in her shell. It's been over 2 years and she still mainly collabs with the same people over and over, barely branching out because of her comfort zone. Even big collabs she participates in usually has the people she's the most comfortable with. Take the latest Among Us collab for example; Miko, Botan, Lamy and Noel. These 4 are among the ones she collabs with the most.

You have rare collabs that happen once in a blue moon and like 2-3 times a year, like the DbD collab with RBC Luna and Choco, but other than that she's very much still in her shell.

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>>9478645
>>Music
>Myth win
vid related mogs anything myth has ever put out

>> No.9481707

>>9465082
Hololive Fantasy has Marine, Flare, Rushia and Pekora
Hololive Myth has Ina, Amelia, Calliope and Gura
It's still 4:4

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>>9481671
>>Music
>Myth win
vid related mogs anything myth has ever put out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7VK3pne8N4

>> No.9481760

>>9475197
Unironically yes, hololive would have remained jp only if it weren't for clips and Coco.

>> No.9481918

>>9481744
Check RIP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y3xh8gs24c
SEAnigs got mogged so hard
>double the views LMAO
>keep seething

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>>9475517
>Unironically Mori's best music to date. I have "Mori Calliope's rancid Deathfarts .mp3" on replay

>> No.9482150

>>9479003
Flare is a good singer and Noel is the number one ASMR vtuber in the world by numbers and top 3 by quality.
Also both of them have more interesting zatsus than any EN.

>> No.9482187

>>9465082
> Who's better at doing a Japanese thing, Japanese vtubers or Western vtubers?
Anon I'm not sure let me think about it

>> No.9482448

Truth be told I don't think Fantasy is better than Myth and vice-versa. I think that the Western market for vtubers is still much smaller than the Japanese one. In the west watching an animoo girl talk in a high-pitch voice is still top tier cringe for most people. Streaming as a vtuber in the west is the biggest debuff you could ever apply to yourself. There was a small hype when Myth first came out because it was new but now that the dust has settled we can clearly see just how small the market actually is compared to the JP one.

>> No.9482503

>>9475413
I can switch up these to make the opposite point
Amelia's Minecraft <<<< Flare's Minecraft
Gura's ASMR <<<< Noel's ASMR
Ina's DFC <<<< Rushia's DFC
Kiara's Music <<< Marine's music
Mori's raps <<<< Pekorap

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