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9441362 No.9441362 [Reply] [Original]

am i missing out by not watching vtubers with less than 5k viewers?

>> No.9441397

yes

>> No.9441524

>>9441362
Absolutely not. There's not a single good vtuber with less than 5000 regular viewers. While not everything that's popular is good, everything that's good is popular. There's not a single 2view worth your time.

>> No.9441537

5k is pretty big so yeah

>> No.9441648

>>9441362
No, I tried taking the indiepill and only got depressed because of how bad it was

>> No.9441681

>>9441362
No

>> No.9441712

>>9441362
Just watch what you like. If what you like is big numbers, then just watch that.

>> No.9441746
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>>9441362
yes

>> No.9441756

>>9441362
Not really.

>> No.9441808

>>9441362
You should only be watching 2views if there's something about their schtick/personality that prevents them from being popular. Like if she's religious or political or speaks a language other than Jap or English.
If you're watching a 2view and she's just acting like a generic western Stacy you're wasting your time.

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>>9441362
yes

>> No.9441849

>>9441362
Nope

>> No.9441894

Yes if they're a Holo, no otherwise.

>> No.9441974
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9441974

>>9441362
There's only one chuuba worth your time

>> No.9442034

No. 99% of indie vtubers are doing for the social club not entertaining people.

>> No.9442040

>>9441894
Listen to this man.
Please don't betray Yagoo. You should only be watching Hololive.

>> No.9442109

>>9441974
This man speaks the truth.

>> No.9442148
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9442148

That reminds me of a fun game! Let's play!
Go to twitch's vtuber tag and sort from low to high. We use twitch because YouTube only sorts viewers high to low. We'll go over there later. Time yourself and keep scrolling until you find a vtuber channel with more than 10 views, then share how long it took you!
https://www.twitch.tv/directory/all/tags/52d7e4cc-633d-46f5-818c-bb59102d9549?sort=VIEWER_COUNT_ASC

Now for the second part! We can use YouTube for this too this time! Do it the other way around, sort from high to low and time yourself how long it took you to find a channel with fewer than 100 viewers, and share your results!
https://www.twitch.tv/directory/all/tags/52d7e4cc-633d-46f5-818c-bb59102d9549?sort=VIEWER_COUNT
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=vtuber&sp=CAMSAkAB

Ready? Go!!!

>> No.9442161

>>9441362
Absolutely.
Those are the most desperate for attention and hungry for growth, so they'll try a lot of weird things to get it.

>> No.9442194
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9442194

>>9441362
>Are you cheating on me anon? Those indie chuubas won't love you like I do

>> No.9442270
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9442270

>/mu/ hates popular music
>/a/ hates popular/fotm anime
>/tv/ hates popular TV shows and capeshit
>/co/ hates modern comics
>/v/ don't even get me started
>/vt/: LMAO ONLY POPULAR THINGS ARE GOOD

>> No.9442295

>>9441362
Nah, Hololive picked the best of the best and as Holocouncil has shown that they still arent as interesting or as good as Gura either which means that those 2 views who failed the auditions must be a lot worse.

>> No.9442298
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9442298

Honest question. Why do you guys watch Hololive?
They never read your chats, they never read your comments, they never read your supas. Since there is 0 interaction, watching the live stream and the VOD is exactly the same thing.
You know they will still pull big numbers, so... what's the point? Why even show up?
In my opinion, you haven't truly learned what watching vtubers is like until you had the streamer welcome you to their chat. It's something else entirely. You're missing out.

>> No.9442305

>>9442148
>litearlly hundreds of people with less than 5 viewers
Thanks, I hate it. This is depressing as fuck

>> No.9442334

>>9442270
Popularity is a guarantee of good quality

>> No.9442355

>>9442334
Vshojo

>> No.9442384

>>9442298
>In my opinion, you haven't truly learned what watching vtubers is like until you had the streamer welcome you to their chat. It's something else entirely. You're missing out.

I'm not a groomer that's why, im perfectly happy seeing Hololive girls being happy and deserving of every inch of success they worked hard for and I dont care that they dont even mention my name.

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9442390

absolutely!

>> No.9442418

>>9442334
>pekora, aqua and marine
>good quality
Pick one, you fag.

>> No.9442452

>>9442270
streaming views are an actual quality consensus in real time if you know how to interpret, there's no IGN or anime magazine manufacturing popularity from thin air

>> No.9442459

>>9442355
They're good

>> No.9442532

>>9441362
Watch whatever you want anon it doesn't matter. The vtuber you watch must vibe with YOU and entertain YOU it doesn't matter if they are a 2 view chuuba or 20k CCV one. Finding a good indie is very difficult but you can be pretty sure when you go for a major group that they will hit the niche you like more often than not. In the end it's YOUR choice watch whatever vibes with YOU.

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>>9441362

if you have to ask yourself this questions the answer is most likely yes.

the anime girlfriend substitute of your dreams will speak to you without words. keep looking.

>> No.9442550
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9442550

Plenty of gems out there.

>> No.9442588
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9442588

Yes.

>> No.9442600

>>9441362
i found myself not caring about numbers anymore when nijiEN debuted. They're just as interesting as hololive. Can't believe pomu took my membership virginity. But i have yet to try actual indie vtubers with like less than 100 viewers.

>> No.9442663

>>9442270
>He doesnt think that pewdiepie is the greatest Vtuber of our lifetime
Look at this contrarian.

>> No.9442677
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>>9442384
Post-success stories provide no real excitement. I want to see someone grow. I want to root for someone. I want to support them and experience their achievements together. You don't know if your indie will make it or not, but that's what makes those moments more precious. Makes you actually want to be there.
Hololive no longer feels like a journey, it's more like a goal, you know they'll be fine whatever happens. If you support them or not, it honestly doesn't matter. Might as well just watch the clips.

>> No.9442725

>>9442663
He is

>> No.9442857

>>9441524
>everything that's good is popular
No, not everyone agrees with the majority opinion, which tends to be very average, while many are missed completely. Like someone may have 200 views, then could be picked up by Hololive and get 20k. Then could just be as good before they were in Hololive.

>> No.9442931

>>9442459
Lmao
Go back to eating mcdonald's while listening to drake or whatever you twitter users do.

>> No.9442967

>>9442857
No. They only become good when they get into Hololive. Something special happens when someone debuts as a part of Hololive.
All their previous life material isn't worth another look except if it has big numbers.

>> No.9442972
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9442972

Ceres used to be a 300 viewer chuuba who only got past 1k after joining holo. Her content is completely identical to what she's been doing for the past two years.

>> No.9442983

>>9442270
by my experience, /v/ is usually right when sniffing bullshit from popular games

>> No.9443056
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9443056

it takes work to find good vtubers that aren't already well known, but theres a lot of good small chuubas
the experience is very different from what you're used to, because the indies will actually respond to you if you ask questions
i took the indie pill with jap indies and a lot of them have higher production values than holos but come with the added benefit of being able to hold a conversation with their audience, and being able to find one for just about every interest you could have
small corporates are really hit or miss though because they're either just paid indies or whitewashed hololarp

>> No.9443101
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9443101

People seem to forget many hololive members, both JP and EN, were actually fairly small streamers before they got in.
This means there are DOZENS of Hololive tier chuubas out there you're missing out on. On top of that, they are streaming without restrictions or other corpo related bullshit. Let that sink in.
If you only watch Hololive you know jack shit about vtubing.

>> No.9443128

>>9442972
There's must be SOME difference.
There's no reason that she would only get a few viewers before compared to now if her content is exactly the same. Numbers = quality so if quality is the same, numbers should also prove it

>> No.9443133

>>9442588
who this

>> No.9443177

>>9443128
shit knowledge on how to promote yourself maybe?

>> No.9443191

>>9443128
Not really. Slapping a brand on something truly works like that.

>> No.9443236

>>9441974
Cringe

>> No.9443257

>>9443177
But the quality is the same. She should have been popular just from word-of-mouth marketing. I can't believe that the same quality would get different numbers just because of that.

>> No.9443270

>>9443101
If they're actually good they're gonna get into Hololive eventually, im not gonna waste my time trying to find some noname vtubers out there when I could be watching streams.

>> No.9443285

>>9443270
You're just shit at searching lol

>> No.9443319

>>9443257
if that was all it took she would have had hit +1k on her own. it only happened with the promotion boost from Holo.

>> No.9443325

>>9443270
Explain anya then

>> No.9443331

>>9442298
>They never read your chats, they never read your comments, they never read your supas.
All wrong. Stopped reading there.

>> No.9443343

>>9441362
Depends on what you are looking for. Do you want to talk directly to the vtuber and maybe even find some new friends? Yes a sub 5k vtuber is worth your time. Do you want to watch a vtuber with no interaction from yourself and aren't looking to make connections? The answer is no.

>> No.9443363

>>9443128
300 is not a few, anon. Your sense of scale is completely off. 300 is very good for a vtuber. That's just what vtubing outside the holobubble is.
Just take a look at this post. >>9442148
Most vtubers never break past 1k.

>> No.9443426

>>9443191
It's funny how many anons don't seem to understand the value, purpose, and function of branding when it's like the bread and butter of how japanese companies create differentiated products from commodities.

>> No.9443433

>>9443191
>>9443319
I don't think it was just the brand. She must have changed her content somehow

>> No.9443438

>>9443363
The holorot is real.
Imagine spending hours upon hours on a hobby and still knowing nothing about it.
It's really sad.

>> No.9443456

>>9442148
> Literally hundreds of retards with absolute dog shit avatars.

Don't these morons understand that when people browse for streams they only see thumbnails of their streams? If their avatar look like trash of course people are not going to click.

>> No.9443458

>>9441362
Yeah, some of Kiara's streams are pretty good!

>> No.9443485

>>9441362
No.

>> No.9443493

>>9441362
You're missing out on increased chat interaction. But that's about it.

>> No.9443519

>>9443433
you don't have any proof to your claims, just your bias. she graduated as a 300 view and day one got 80k viewers as every single girl who debuted. then settled for +8k viewers.

>> No.9443542

>>9443433
It absolutely is just brand magic, anon.

>> No.9443573

No you aren’t missing out cumbud, stay in your hololive containment bubble where you belong

>> No.9443584

>>9443270
unironically based

>> No.9443690

>>9443519
She suddenly became a great streamer. What else can explain it?
Joining Hololive literally made her better

>> No.9443735
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>>9443690
You meme but some people unironically believe this and it brings me great pain.

>> No.9443783

>>9443133
Moriko
https://www.twitch.tv/batatvideogames

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9443897

>>9441524

>> No.9443972

Yes, but you and people like you are just gonna meme about it, so who cares?

>> No.9444027

>>9441524
Ah yes, the famous Holonumbercope. "Everything that Good is popular". Now tell me why great artists were often not popular in their own life times or why hometown restaurants that serve food far better than any chain aren't popular comparatively. Here's my question to you, why even make that argument in the first place when it is so easy to prove how wrong you are? Everyone starts as a 2view that isn't part of a major corpo. Even many of the famed Hololive oshis that you think must be better than any indie.

>> No.9444094

>>9444027
>He fell for the bait

>> No.9444095

>>9443897
Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean it's bait

>> No.9444112

>>9443433
Are you guys in such denial that you don't realise that slapping on the Hololive brand absolutely grants popularity to even the most bland vtuber? What? You think they get 100k subs before debuting due to their twitter talents?

>> No.9444189

>>9444112
There's a reason these chuubas got into Hololive.

>> No.9444263

>>9442983
/v/ is has shit taste and you can't prove me other wise. Any board that has to be subdivided into multiple genres like /v/ has is incapable of any consensus.

>> No.9444475

>>9444189
no one is saying that they are bad and they just get their numbers from hololive buff. what it is being said is that some were amazing low view chuubas who have Hololive promotion helping them be known now. so yeah, there are great -5k chuubas who can be worth your time, who are them? who the fuck knows, every nijisanji en has less than 2k as far as I'm aware

>> No.9444516

>>9442270
This board is really just the worst of r/hololive and I'll be less ashamed of being browsing /trash/
There is fun containment boards on this site but this one could be the worst.because it seems to be composed mostly of underage dramafag tumblrinas and no one likes that.

>> No.9444578
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If by 5k you mean basically anything less than hololive numbers, then the answer is yes, you're missing out.

Watching people like Nina Saotome play Dark Souls is pretty comfy because she knows what she is doing and her voice is chill. If you enter a fanbase and interact long enough with the peeps, it can also feel like home.

But I admit nowadays I don't have time for gaming streams, even if it's hololive. I only watch clips to keep up with bigger events. I will always have time for music, however. As music is short, and shareable, and doesn't occupy my whole attention. The best virtual singers and musicians usually lie outside hololive. The /vsinger/ thread is a godsend for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgHGEXNliqg

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>>9441362
no, in fact you should raise the bar a bit more just watch Vtuber above 10k watch below 10k through clip only as for those below 1k they're not worth your time

>> No.9445103

50/50. It's nice getting read by a 20view chuuba who doesn't have shit mic/slideshow gameplay. they can actually entertain and you too if they are not awful. if you like the interaction and have 30 minutes to spare from your popular chuuba viewing session just give it a go.

>> No.9445364

>>9441362
No matter what activities you partake in, you're always going to miss out on something, somewhere.

>> No.9445568

>>9444189
No one tell this guy about the nepotism he might realize life is unfair

>> No.9445635

>>9445568
This. Might shatter his world when he realized half the chubbas that got into Hololive knew someone that was in already.

>> No.9445981
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>>9441362
You probably are.
While 5k+ vtubers have that many viewers for a reason, it doesn't mean there aren't a few smaller ones that fit more to your personal tastes.
Pic related for example, I don't know why I like her and I only found her by accident. I almost closed her stream several times but I just kept watching for some reason and now I'm still watching.

>> No.9446016

>>9441362
Nope. You wouldn't eat at an empty restaurant.

>> No.9446096

>>9446016
I would, large crowded restaurants are fucking annoying.

>> No.9446130

None of those have fun streaming, so no, you're not missing anything

>> No.9446175

>>9442418
Wow, someone who shares my exact opinion on those 3 sucking ass.

>> No.9446291

>>9441362
If you are the kind of rigger who would go to japan and only eat at mcdonalds instead of trying out random hole in the wall back alley restaurants, then no, you are not missing out.

>> No.9446336

>>9441362
You are missing all the grooming you can do while watching 2views.

>> No.9446424

>>9441362
Not really. Don't let these nijiniggers and 2view groomers fool you otherwise.

>> No.9446425

>>9442194
>>9442194
P-please forgive me YAGOO, I-I won't do it again! I swear!

>> No.9446443

>>9446016
You bet your ass I would.

>> No.9446495

>>9443056
UOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.9446557

>>9442677
Their personalities change once they make it big. They'll become unrecognizable to you.

>> No.9446575

>>9444094
It's not even bait, dude's just role-playing as a numberbrain holobrony to make them look bad.

>> No.9446596

>>9446096
>>9446443
Have fun eating at the waffle house while I'm dining at all the trendy and hip places.

>> No.9446630

>>9446596
Enjoy your dry mcnuggies.

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>>9446495

>> No.9446811

>>9446596
Food analogies don't work in your favour when you realize the most popular foods are shit like McDonalds.

>> No.9446960

>>9441362
you're missing out by not watching vtubers who don't even stream. a lot of the pre-2020 japanese indie vtubers were really interesting

>> No.9447025

>>9446811
Who do you think the McDonald's of vtubing is?

>> No.9447221

>>9447025
The taco bell of vtubing you mean.

>> No.9447304

>>9447025
Nijisanji is the fast food of vtubing.
Hololive are big franchise restaurants that can mask the fact they are bland a bit better.
Both get btfo by that one family owned local of course, but you actually have to find it first.

>> No.9447612

I make my oshi laugh during all her streams and she knows me by name.
Can you say the same, anon?

>> No.9450584

>>9444027
Ah yes, the famous Indietrannycope.

>> No.9456283
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9456283

You are missing out on Nina Saotome (who has a decent following on vt) and is amazingly talented. Check out her singing.

https://youtu.be/Qg30_40RNdo

>> No.9460152

>>9456283
She has some cool friends too. Alice is my favorite lolibaba.

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9460506

>>9441524
ENTER

>> No.9460584

>>9460506
2view

>> No.9460821

>>9441362
>Holollive grantees large view base and sub counts compared to literally every other indie and company
>HUrr durr should I watch others???
Stay in your containment streams, you don't deserve the best, just keep eating the same old shit you enjoy because it panders directly to your dumb EoP ass

>> No.9460977

>>9447304
And like that one family owned local, by the time you have your food you just don’t want it anymore and wish you’d just gone for the easy stuff.

>> No.9461041

>>9460977
>by the time you have your food you just don’t want it anymore and wish you’d just gone for the easy stuff.
Maybe if you're an obnoxious entitled white women that can't wait 45 minutes for an actual decent pizza

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