/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone else feel like the EN branch should stay small and not expand like JP?

[Anonymous No.]

No

[Anonymous No.]

>>9264800
It's a bit too late for that, don't you think?

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>>9264800
Don't take my helicopter and my big titty gyaru from me faggot.

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>>9264800
They'll never be able to replicate the gold of myth so in a way yes but it doesn't really matter.

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>>9264800
I think they should stay at the 11 they’re currently at, but they definitely needed more than 5

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>>9264800
Go away Kiara

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>>9264800
Yes.
I can't deal with so many good talents streaming at once.

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>>9264800
Go away Gura.

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>>9264800
no, retard

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What EN needed was people from the same area and culture. Now all members are from all over the place and they continued it with the EN2. They really don't have the connection JP has.

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>>9264800
Having a new wave of talent was a good idea but it would be in everyone's best interest if Gen 3 doesn't happen for a long time.
JP is probably going to let their numbers contract a bit too, we're 13 months removed from JP Gen 5's debuts and Gen 6 is nowhere in sight

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>>9264800
End your life

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>>9264927
They need to find another couple of good vsingers so they can make a proper gen for irys.

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>>9264800
Shut the hell up kiara

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>>9264800
At the very least, it will be extended to at least ENgen5, just like jp.

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>>9264800
En should not even exist. They ruined Western vtubing with their MUH NUMBAHS mentality.

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>>9265032
Gura actually likes EN2 I think.

Kiara is the bitch with the MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEME

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>>9265358
Gura regrets joining Hololive everyday and is hoping a yab will happen to her so she can get graduated without it looking intentional.

Source: just trust me.

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Gura on multiple occasions talked about how she wants to do things with EN2.

Ame already snuck in a Sana collab and seems interested in interacting with Kronii.

Ina and Sana were already friends and will probably go wild when collab embargo ends.

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>>9264800
Yes. Additional EN generations will cannibalize views since not enough new viewers are being brought in.

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>>9265787
>Gura on multiple occasions talked about how she wants to do things with EN2.
She seems to like Hakos quite a bit too, her Minecraft and MK8D shenanigans both happened on Hakos' stream

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>>9265787
Gura, Ame and Mori are proud Senpais.

Ina is an IRL friend to possibly 2 of them

Kiara is actually the one seething

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>>9264800
Fuck off Kiara.

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>>9265937
Gura is absolutely a confirmed /brat/, she may not comment but the fact she just appeared in both of those streams shows she is a Bae fan.

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>>9265937
Actually, her Minecraft appearance was in support of Mumei's joke

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We need EN3 because HoloEN can't satisfy my cunny needs with only Gura
Hate ratt and owl had to be titty monsters

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>>9265996
But she was already watching Bae's stream to even hit that joke

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>>9264800
they shouldn't hire any more because the EN talent pool is apparently already dry. the EN2 girls are boring as fuck

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>>9265937
Gura dm Hakos on discord asking for a 'collab' was impressive. This is things that Gura would never do last month. I think having new kohai really gave her confidence.

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>>9264800
I feel like you should shut up and fuck off, faggot.
>>9264935
>rent-free
meds.
>>9265358
ohgay zhang, we get it, you think kiara is kronii. you're still wrong, and should kindly commit an hero.

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>>9266203
I think Gura legitimately feels a bit lonely.

I think her relationships outside of EN in hololive are tenuous to nonexistent.

I wouldn't be surprised that even if other girls want to collab, the whole Iofi shit is at the back of their mind and they don't want a situation where they have to walk on eggshells around Goora.

I think things are getting better for her on that front, but more than anything, the language barrier I think is really hard for Gura so getting access to 5 new people that all speak english, its gotta be kind of a relief and motivation.

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>>9266299
>he doesn't know ME ME ME ME ME ME for Kiara far predates Kronii

Reddit-chama...

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>>9264800
No. EN1 is shit. They should be expanding faster

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>>9264800
For real, yeah. I liked how myth have me enough content to fill the week, but I could also keep up with everything. Now it just feels overwhelming. They're no longer a coherent whole, just 11 individuals doing their own thing.

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>>9264800
They need 4 years to catch up current JP members.( 1 gen per year)

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>>9264800
Numberfag wise, then its a yes
But for "we are family" branch that's definitely a no no

[Anonymous No.]

Mario Kart Extermination Tournament:
-Top 5 get to continue being Holos
- EVERYONE ELSE IS “GRADUATED”

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>>9265120
Even if they were all American that still wouldn’t be true. Americans are mostly rootless cosmopolitans with no real heritage, traditions, or culture. They’re all “rugged individualists” with no deeper connection to their next door neighbor, let alone someone who lives miles away. There’s nothing that holds them together, and even the aspects of their “culture” that do exist seek to further this; at 18, they’e expected to leave home and find their own path in college, in such a way where they no longer have connections to their own family and establish careers far from home.
Americans will never experience what it’s like to live in a homogeneous society built on traditions snd customs that stretch back for centuries, no millenia, even. Everything in America was built last week, and will be outdated by next week, in the blind lust for “progress,” whatever that means; no one knows because it’s everyone for themselves.

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>>9265953
>Kiara is actually the one seething
Meds.

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>>9264800
yes, but mainly to avoid inflating the number of talents where you can no longer support most of them.

[Anonymous No.]

No. All of my favorite JPs were from later generations.

[Anonymous No.]

At first I didn't, but being able to have live streams on more than once a day feels really nice. Another gen or two would be nice to really fill out their time slots.

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>>9267096
Based

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>>9266019
based pedofag

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>>9264800
No. Isolationism has always been retarded. "Keeping it small" will just end up with people getting bored of watching the same things by the same chuubas, which will result in lower popularity, CCV, SCs and all that shits.

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>>9266405
>lofi shit

Did you just wake up from a coma, schizo?

[Anonymous No.]

JP 8 Gens total
EN 3 Gens total
ID 3 Gens Total

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>>9267096

Americans have distinct culture and it's so powerful that every part of world has been influenced by it. The problem with modern america is that it's getting fuller fuller of people who aren't americans.

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Your brain on Hololive
>Hololive is the only real vtuber company and the only thing I watch.
>I don't like new members. Having less options to chose from is actually better.
>Members of Hololive are not allowed to interact with anyone that is not Hololive. Nijisanji scares me.
>When a girl talks to a men she is a whore. I am looking for boyfriend-free girls.
>Rushia pettan no boing boing hahaha

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>>9268967
History repeats itself. A country founded as a result of killing and invading indigenous peoples ends up being invaded by outsiders. It's beautiful.

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>>9264800
I'm glad gura got new friends. Maybe she'll be a little less lonely now.

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>>9269558

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>>9264800
No, they need more people so they can play Minecraft together.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9270256
Rome

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>>9268967
lmaoo

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>>9270327
Except the foederati was a good thing. The roman empire was destroyed by ineffective rulers and economic decay.

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>>9265168
so like a 100% idol group?

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>>9266559
isn't that the whole point of getting into entertainment where you can have specific things that cater to your enjoyment?

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>>9268967
>burgers think consumer products are "culture"
Couldn't have illustrated what he said better than this.

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>>9264800
Yes in fact it should shrink more, I only need Kiara.

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>>9265120
It's part of the appeal though, and keeps their viewpoints fresh

And don't get people started on accent appeal, everyone has a favorite

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>>9270701
based

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>>9270459
I mean they should still be streamers, so more Subaru than Azki, but a 3 or 4 person vsinger group inside HoloEN would be good.

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>>9264800
Nah nigga, i want more generations, i need them to have their own ecosystem, and of course, all time slots.

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>>9270534
You and him don't seem to understand what culture is if you think America's individualism and consumerism isn't a culture. You're just passing judging that culture from your biased point of view without understanding the underlying circumstances that surround North America as a whole. But this is off-topic as far as it being a subject beyond the context of Hololive.

HoloEN's problem is proximity more so than culture. There's probably less than 3 people in the branch that could come face to face with each other at a moment's notice without having to hitch a ride on a plane.

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>>9269221
Unironically this. If you want more options then learn Japanese.

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>>9264800
Dead hours needed to be filled, but now there is way too much content to keep up with.

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>>9264800
I think 5 generations is as far as they should stretch it.

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>>9269221
Based

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>>9265953
>Gura, Ame and Mori are proud Senpais

Gura literally said to not be called Senpai

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>>9269558
>A country founded as a result of killing and invading indigenous peoples ends up being invaded by outsiders
Like every country that existed in this world?

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>>9264800
1 Gen a year is good, to keep things fresh.

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>>9265875
This is what makes me scared about more EN getting added. I don't like to think about how they're actually competing against each other for viewers, resulting in some becoming losers.

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>>9286541
I think she's just weirded out about the title thing as culture shock, but the seniority thing she is completely on board

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>>9287205
>I think
didn't ask about your opinion

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>>9264800
Not really. I was kind of concerned at first, but Council and subsequent branches aren't going to stop Myth from existing and I'm excited to see them interact. I think IRyS helped me get over my apprehension about it. She seemed so different from Myth at first, but now she hangs out and collabs and interacts with them as if she had been there from the beginning. I don't think all of the Council girls will be hits like what happened with Myth, but if they interact well that's good enough for me.

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>>9264800
I think they're not going to have many more for a while.
Though ID3 auditions were recently announced.
I'd imagine they'll stop recruiting after that and maybe an EN3.
That's 8 more members, and maybe another Vsinger.
They really should sit back and focus on what they have right now.
And right now with 7 JP gens, 2 ID and 2 EN, things could get pretty tight.
Avoid bloat like Niji, just cut it off for a bit until maybe some girls start leaving.
Don't do a JP6. Hold off on ID3 and EN3 for a year or so.

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>>9264800
Go away Kiara, your subs stagnated after the 1m race proving the pity subs rrat.

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>>9265120
I disagree on culture, but area is bang on. Look at how hard it is to arrange a full group collab for EN. You've got Gura, Ame and Ina on GMT-4 (-5?), Kiara on GMT+2 and Mori on GMT+9. EN is even worse.

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>>9287642
This is small time thinking. You're thinking about this as if the vtuber market is mature and as big as it will ever get. Truth is that it's growing and will continue to get more mainstream. That's why a new agency pops up every 4 seconds. For better or worse the market is expanding and the talent pool will continue expanding as well as more and more people realize that vtubing is a viable way to make a living. That talent is going to go somewhere and if it's not Hololive it'll be somewhere else.

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>>9287414
Outside of Ina and the one she did with Maori, she hasn’t had a collab with anyone else in Myth. Kiara seems to hate IRyS, Gura is too shy to ask, and Ame simply doesn’t care about anything anymore.

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>>9272283
Imagine a gen that all lived in NYC or LA or something. Imagine the kino of a full offline gen collab like a sort of broadcasted lan party.

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>>9268860
With the amount that shit gets timelooped in here wouldn't really blame him for thinking about it.

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>>9270421
Julius and Augustus are inevitable. Rome cannot remained republic forever. With trump and other demagogue emerge around the world in recent years, I’m start to think all republic will end up with emperor at some point.

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>>9286922
yes, that's the exact point of his post. Are you retarded burger kun?

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>>9268967
Americans do have a distinct culture, but most of what gets transmitted abroad is just exported degeneracy and politicism

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>>9264800
depends how "small" you mean.
they could totally do 2 more gens

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>>9264800
The pace they are releasing new gens is fine. Another EN gen would give them enough people to hold tournaments, cover more time zones and give the girls more leeway to take time off without significantly affecting available content.

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>>9266405
>the language barrier
Gura (and Ame, Calli is a lost cause) have had a year to improve their Japanese and have failed to make any attempts to do so. They only have themselves to blame

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>>9264800
They probably shouldn't expand much more than they have, market saturation isn't healthy.

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>>9265032
>Gura showed up briefly in the MC collab
>Gura raced Rrat in Mario Kart despite the collab ban
Gura and Ame love Gen 2, and Ina got at least two of them their jobs in Gen 2.

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>>9287205
It's over tranny

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>>9267096
Lmao, get back in the cave grug.

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>>9300390
It's not called Gen 2 you fucking imbecile it's called Holo Council and Gen 1 isn't called that either but Holo Myth. Jesus you fucking newfags need to lurk before posting

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>>9302276
t. omegaalpha

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>>9270534
You seem to have hallucinated that I said products. Can you see how you added the "products" in even though I never said that. Examples of American culture; music, electricity, flying, space exploration and internet. Even anime and manga are in existence because of american culture.

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>>9264800
yes even though I didn’t want EN2 but now I love Kronii.

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>>9266511
seething nigger. myth will forever dominate compared to any other group.

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>>9264800
I just wish they didn't hire that tranny for Kronii. EN2 would be 100% better without her (him).

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>>9264848
fpbp

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>>9302276
Omega faggot, imma fucking shove dick down your throat you fucking twinky twig

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>>9264800
EN 2 is already better gen by mere virtue of having Kronii

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>>9265787
>Ame already snuck in a Sana collab

Which stream was this?

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>>9270256
America's total fertility rate is sub-replacement. In simple terms, they don't enough babies to sustain their population.

The only reason the population is increasing is immigration.

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>>9304532
Ame in the am

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>>9264800
HoloEN only needs one
>pic related, the most talented of them all

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>>9315108
so much this

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>>9266405
Im kind of new around here, but what happened with Iofi?

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>>9267253
egg

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>>9315543
do your archive reps.

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>>9270181
nah, Kiara doesn't like Gura being more proactive, she sees it like a treath, she will passive-agressivebly make her feel bad about it till she stops

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>>9264800
we need another gen, more lbgt oriented

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>>9287153
come on kfp, have some faith in Kiara, not everyone is a threat

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>>9264800
Yes, but it’s too late

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>>9264800
No, I feel like the EN branch should never be exist. Just transfer chicken and irys to the JP branch and graduate others.

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>>9315543
He's shit posting about a incident on last year's AmongUs collab setup by Roboco that had JP+ID+EN members. Gura was in it and it was so bad for her she had not played the game since. If you see the Amogus references in Gura's streams (especially Henry Stickmin), that collab is what it's about.

The Story:
>Roboco, Luna and Aki got together and called a few people for a collab
>ID girls get invited
>Somehow ENs get invited as well
>Iofi decides to point out that people had expectations on her being go-to translator for EN, and acknowledges her role on Twitter
>come collab time, Gura wasn't having a good time being basically insta suspect due to how good she was on her previous AmongUs collab
>Iofi, who was expected to translate, does so but changing the meaning or intent of what the ENs are saying or outright not translating at her own convenience (not entirely her fault because it was a bit chaotic)
>after the stream ends, one or two zhangs complained about Iofi's translation efforts on her stream
>Iofi goes full drama queen on Twitter about people complaining about her translation and apologizing for it, then deleting the posts (including the post where she acknowledges her translator role) and then tweeting more, making it look like she's being harassed to gain the support of her immediate peers
>anons on this thread refuse to shut up about it even though Gura has already collabed with both IDs and JPs ever since

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>>9315108
why are kfp like this?

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>>9264800
No but I do wish for a do-over of EN2 with better designs and talent.

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara stop posting shit takes and finish reading “How not to take all my emotions out on chat - A Self Help Guide “

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>>9264800
EN2 > EN1

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>>9304223
This is my post. I meant to say "worst"

Kronii is a Korean hag

[Anonymous No.]

They should away without boyfriends but we all know at least a fourth of the crew gets porked by their SO/husband.

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>>9288035
but you ignore branding because it's not your area of expertise. Hololive was all the family feeling it had, you would be eager to get more family members but now it feels like some distant cousing keep joining your house. In a way they are getting very close to Nijisanji, then you will have only fresh debuts getting 20k viewers for the first week like that one sharkredhead from niji and it will die down to a couple of thousands, what I mean is people will hype new Hololive content not the actual talents.

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>>9264927
Theres still a few niches out thereI wanna see filled in the EN chuuba market:
>milf
>musclegirl
>retro gamer
>fightan gamer
Don't really care if they're Holo or not by this point, but I think 1 more generation for HoloEN might be cool if they're as different to what they have already niche wise as Council were to Myth. In fact, since most of EN are comparable to some JP girls, here's the JP girls I wanna see EN versions of:
>Marine
>Mio
>Korone
>Watame
>Botan
>Subaru

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>>9264800
Kiara would agree with this, she hates EN gen 2

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>>9287153
As long as everyone can maintain a minimum of 2k consistent liveviewers there's nothing to really worry about. There are also some dead hours to fill (like right now for instance), though maybe that will be ID3's job (who also have the added bonus of having less pressure on them for 4 digit viewer numbers and a million subs)

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>>9288035
Anon, the issue is viewer numbers. Vtubing has broke mainstream yet in the west we've pretty much got what we're gonna get with regards to Hololive in English in terms of viewer numbers. The only real growth area left is the twitch audience, which only vshojofags want.

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>>9320237
If vtubing gets more mainstream in the west, idolfags will matter less and less. When that happens and you have hololive members openly discussing their boyfriends on stream, I will start my own pure seiso idol industry and rake in all your supas. I can't wait.