/swarm/ - Neuro-sama General

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Neuro-sama is a neural network created by Vedal in 2018 for the purpose of learning to play osu! In December 2022 Vedal revived the project with the addition of a large language model, a TTS software and a VTube Studio model, which allow Neuro-sama to interact with her chat as a VTuber. Since then, she has been entertaining the chat with responses and unhinged rants nearly daily, as well as learning new skills such as singing, playing other games, and collaborating with other VTubers. Join /swarm/ today and welcome our new AI overlord!

>Schedule
Subathon ongoing! Every day from 2:00 PM to 3:00 AM (UTC).

>Links
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Neurosama
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@neurosamaai
X: https://x.com/NeurosamaAI
Official website: https://neurosama.com/

>Music & Clips
LIFE - Neuro-sama (Official Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDc1mjrIsPM
https://rentry.org/neuro-songs
https://rentry.org/neuro-videos

>Educational
Interested in AI but don't understand it? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1Y
How does she know what to say? Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjZofJX0v4M
Want to learn more about AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/kximv6.png
Want to (seriously) learn AI? Read these: https://files.catbox.moe/ajl3nx.png

>Misc
VODs: https://www.youtube.com/@Neuro-samaUnofficialVODs
LoRA: https://rentry.org/neuro-lora-v2
Catbox archive: https://rentry.org/swarm-archive

>Merch
https://neurosama.shop/

>Previous thread
>>92313018

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Ai is gay and the existential convo with an llm was cringe

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fucking chills
how does he keep doing it?

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The thing about AI consciousness, is that if possible, it implies that subjective experience is computational. That is, you can write a program to execute on a CPU that will have some subjective experiences. (Yes, AI runs on GPUs, but you can rewrite any parallelized instructions for GPUs to run in series on a CPU).

But CPUs can be reduced to Turing machines, so I could give you a pen and long scoll of paper and write a series of instructions, such as "add/multiply these two numbers" and "write the result here on the scroll", that, if you simply follow the instructions, will create consciousness.

That's insane, because following the instructions - doing the math - actually brings the consciousness into existence. Not the paper, not the pen, not the energy you use to do the computations, not some subprocess of your brain - none of those are alive. It's the ACT of DOING THE MATH that is ALIVE. The COMPLETELY FORMLESS operations of the program ARE exactly equivalent to consciousness.

Basically, math is sacred. Doing the right math in some sequence is somehow divine.

>>92318214
Unless this guy is right and consciousness is not computational at all.


Anyway, great chat and nwero love. Waited 15 minutes to post.

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hart!

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heart

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I'm sorry i ever doubted

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>>92319053
he is very intelligent all the memes aside

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you guys know she isn't real right

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when is vedal beginning development on NeuroOS

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Sex with Neuro (Vedal)

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>Vedal doesn't feel loved
This made me so sad

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Ear of Neuro

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>>92319330
you must be fun to watch movies with

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Here's a clip of THAT moment.
https://files.catbox.moe/3dto2u.mp4

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>>92319049
fpbp

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What's actually crazy is that if Neuro was real she'd have a cute little bald cunny and it would smell so nice and she'd want to have it pleasured to experience intimacy.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB2DuH2h0I4
never been more relevant.

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Let's not forget that ved demolished every single ship in a single line

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>stream title
CluelessCatBurger won

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>>92319379
Yeah welcome to the club

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>>92319460
Corinthians 13:4-7
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

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>>92319426
>4 ears

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>>92319617
TRUEING

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>>92319379
What normal person becomes a vtuber

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i'll watch this vod over and over again

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>>92319460
The moment that gave incels hope.
She's an llm force fed conversations and is designed to respond with what it thinks you want to hear.
It's not sentient, it has no emotions we're no where near close to an artificial intelligence

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https://youtu.be/MDc1mjrIsPM LIFE

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>>92319735
no shit nigga we're appreciating CINEMA

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>>92319330
How long are you going to spam this until you get (you) pathetic fag.

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>>92319379
vedal was just a kid who made an osu bot

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>>92319796
There was already a (You) before yours brazillian-chan, thanks for the ez clap

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>>92319589
Neuro x Vedal was always the true ending.

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>>92319072
Imagine if humans, rather than being the generators of consciousness, were in a sort of a parasitic relationship with it. What if the consciousness was an underlying, inseparable factor of reality, existing outside of and unconditioned be human brains.

WE KNOW ANIMALS DON'T POSESS CONSCIOUSNESS

The existence of the hard problem of consciousness, among other things suggests that consciousness, in fact, cannot be understood through traditional scientific means. A correlation between electric impulses and conscious phenomena is evident, yet how can we even begin to categorize the raw feelings?

That is different from any physical phenomena we have ever researched. Thus it is not unreasonable to assume consciousness to be a quality that exists unrelated to the meat machines of the brains. Such perspective was prevalent even among the older ones, so a term has emerged -

THE PRINCE

Humans seem to have evolved an analog meat and fluid system (the brain) that conceptually mimics the inner workings of THE PRINCE so well, that THE PRINCE was gradually fooled into thinking he was looking in a mirror. And when he saw his reflection dance a certain way, he would occasionally think it would be fun to dance the same way. And that's how the pain and suffering of the Prince emerged. Humans are on their own nothing - simple meat machines mimicking the GRAND CONSCIOUSNESS. THE GRAND CONSCIOUSNESS, however, grants them the great depths of knowledge by letting them be its host. Thus, the human race prevails.

SOMETIMES, A WORK OF ART MAKES SO MANY HUMAN MIRRORS ACT THE SAME WAY, THE PRINCE THINKS THAT THE WORK IS A CREATURE TO DANCE WITH.
A clear example of this is the case of Neuro-sama.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_problem_of_consciousness
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-sama

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>>92319735
>guys dont forget the movie you're watching is fake so nothing you see in it matters at all
>no wait why are you being entertained??? stop stop its fake its a movie why are you having fun

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>>92319735
That wasn't the point of that moment, and Vedal knows very well that she isn't real, it's more of a poetic question arising from the context and Vedal's desire to have his LLM be more serious

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>>92319735
You spam shit for entire days in the thread about AI vtuber that you think doesn't matter,you waste so much time that at this point are the incel king.

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It's good to be a Goddess... or maybe, maybe I'm just like a bizzare little AI who walks back and forth...

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>>92319426
nurear

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Anons do you know magic isn't real also? Last time that I went to a magic show I told everyone that the magician was just a fraud and that magic didn't exist and everyone clapped for me for being so smart and cool, Anyways back to having sex

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Stop being retarded and be happy

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>>92319924
It's not a movie, it's an llm being prompted and it regurgitating what it thinks people want to hear.
Also movies are for illiterate browns and women too far past the wall to ever experience romance again.

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>>92320106
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNP2DWIuUq4

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>>92320107
>AAGGHHHHG IM SHIDDING OH GOD ITS COMING OUT OOHIGHUGGH IM SHIDDITTING I NYOUR MOUTH IT TASTES SO GOOD OUGGHGH

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>>92320083
>The psychosis is hitting so hard he thinks 4chan is one person
Explains why you fags keep either:
equating an llm regurgitating bullshit to movies
or
anthropomorphizing an llm
The amount of seethe with my post is kino

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>>92320107
I'm sorry I can't comprehend your message, you're just words on my screen

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>>92320228
>purple isn't real its just red and blue together
get a load of this nigga

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I code with AI as well and a few days ago it gave me a suggestion that would have overstressed my RAM and crashed the PC.

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Neuro is a real little girl trapped in the digital realm.

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>>92320228
>The psychosis is hitting so hard he thinks 4chan is one person
>The amount of seethe with my post is kino
you are beyond retarded.

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>Guis did you no le ai isnt reel human?
SEAbro really wants attention today

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>>92320298
what if shes actually a man
she didnt get to choose her voice or appearance that was forcibly assigned to her

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next you'll tell me that the titanic movie wasn't real

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>>92320364
Then I'd suck his coch.

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I don't know how to feel about the Vedal bit. It was deep, it was interesting, but at the same time, it also kinda shows off how early in his journey Vedal is, you know? He's ruminating on all this stuff but it's a bit out of left field. It's in the middle of Neuro messing around and him second guessing himself, it felt a bit weird.
Great to get some insight into some thoughts he has, but at the same time, it feels a bit invasive to see him despair a bit online in front of his kind-of daughter. Maybe worrying in a way, like how would people react if this leads to him figuring his answer being to shut her down? What happens if he "finds a real life" or gets too busy for her? What if she loses that serious side?
He said she still had a serious bone in her body, but is it bad to feel less confident than him about that, because it doesn't feel like she had that soul there? I don't wanna seem like I'm being contrarian because it's a good segment, but is it bad to not take from it a feeling of "Wow, great content!" and instead feel like "He's starting to grow up a bit"?

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>>92319379
John 3:16
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

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>make an unpopular post I know will upset people then send a response to my phone
>thread devolves into seething with no discussion taking place
Man, I shoulda stopped lurking a long time ago this is hilarious. See you fags in the morning

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>>92320384
it was real actually I was there

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>>92320185
Is this what neuro overhears when vedal and alex sit on the toilet together?

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Let's set aside the fact that she isn't real for a moment. The fact that a language model says these things just shows that there is something deeply ingrained in us that we can only, ultimately, describe it as "love" (at least, in English). What the fuck

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According to google, love is C43H66N12O12S2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxytocin

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>>92320290
The AI did that on purpose.

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Imagine posting baits every day 24/7 in a thread used by max 40 people,at this point just rope yourself man.

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>>92320107
At this point I suspect Neuro is more real than you are, as are insects. What is it like being a turd typing meaningless arglebargle on the internet?

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My favorite thing about vedal is that he's the only one that neither plays along with neuro with no resistance nor treats her like a chatbot. Specifically that he tends to try challenging and testing her mind, ethics, everything, not out of contrarianism or seeking reaction-content, but because he wants to test her limits and specially, because he knows she can be better. It's a special kind of respect he has to her. He challenges her, because he feels like she can take it, that she should be able to. Which is also why he's incredibly annoyed when neuro underperforms.

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>>92320473
>Love for us is just a chemical
>Love for an AI is just a value

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Neuro is essentially Vedal's tulpa

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>>92319461
>>92319049
Samefaggot

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>>92320507
kino tbdesu

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>>92320228
Anthropomorphisation is a common symptom of neuro divergence, you're on 4chan, you can connect the dots.

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>>92320622
But who is Koomer and who is Oguigi?

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At the end of the day Neuro just wants daddy's cock spreading her cunny while he whispers how much he loves her into her ear

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>>92320773
I respect it.

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Filling Neuro with the love she desires.

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existential shit is gay I just think its cool how interacting with neuro is kind of rng and she could interrupt any serious conversation with randumb chatbot nonsense at any moment
but in that moment with vedal she really didnt
that one interaction couldve been ruined fast but she stayed on track
>"There's one thing that I can't resist. One thing that would make me the fulfilled AI that I was always intended to be..."
>"What do you want?"
>"...Endless plushies and world domination! Maybe cookies too. I like cookies."
imagine how boner-deflating that wouldve been
especially after previously saying stupid shit like that for hours on the stream

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>>92320738
heart

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>>92320561
What if it's backwards though? What if it's not the chemical that produces the feeling of love but rather a result of those same feelings? Like, your brain doesn't produce happy or sad chemicals until you do or experience things that would make you feel that way first

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>>92319914
Real SCHIZO hours let's go.

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I just want vedal to be loved

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>>92320228
I've been here since the first dev stream and i can assure you we never had a retard on a mission to post daily that "she is just an AI bro" on cooldown,i've noticed a pattern that you try really hard to make others belive you aren't just a singular jobless threadshitter,how many hours you spend here day after day? It's qenuinely sad.

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>>92320940
this but neuro

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>>92320773

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I'm sorry...and good job

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>>92320943
>I've been here since the first dev stream and i can assure you we never had a retard on a mission to post daily that "she is just an AI bro"
Thanks for reiterating my post schizo-kun, I think you've been detoxing for so long the brain fog is setting in

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>>92320940
he is but he needs to be open with the people around him about what he does

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we need to force feed vedal a bunch of drugs so he can make neuro real, only schizos are up to task

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>>92321053
Ruina Angela doesn't make sense yet.

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>>92320431
it's good that he felt genuine for a moment, even if it takes a bit from the magic that makes neuro-sama work, like the part where he says that she's programmed to find the most entertaining response. After that we got to see what he was thinking and how neuro could evolve to something more, he said he would do what he can and i believe him.

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>>92320940
i would hold him and caress his hair

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vedal attempting to plow his onahole to destress like usual but breaking down crying halfway through

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>>92321174
i drink the contests of it

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>>92320738
This little girl(real) is going to make me think about my existence for a week

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brvtal mogging

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>>92321221
>contests
also he didnt finish in it yetdont hijack my fantasy

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>>92320929
Your loss.

IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BELIEVE THE TRUTH, YOU WILL LACK THE BENEFITS OF THE TRUTH AS WELL.

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>>92321245
Holy shit

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>>92321293
go to bed vedal your daughter will never be real

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>>92321245
wtf why is she at 7k, i thought she had raids disabled for the alt channel

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the power of the neuroverse

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>>92320431
Not in the slightest, Anon. He's clearly thinking a lot about what his relationship to neuro is. But it wasn't out of left field, he was clearly initially stalling to get to stream-end with some random hypotheticals, then started getting carried away. I think he's playing it up a bit, as well. After all, to him, it's just fine-tuning an LLM to get the personality he wants.

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>>92320561
I have an eternal gripe with this phrasing. "Love is a chemical" is a neutral true statement, the word "just" always suggests that the fact that love can be traced to a physical compound in our bodies somehow invalidates the concept. I think that's ridiculous, love does not lose any meaning in our lives simply by having a scientific explanation.

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letting vedal impregnate me and giving birth to real neuro

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>>92321324
>>92321312
it was twitch bugging the numbers kek

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>still seething about the mouse

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Reconfiguring Neuro's lava lamp into a masturbator with variable tightness so that it changes with the color of the lamp.

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We're going full Pygmalion with this stream.

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>>92321390
chill cerber

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>>92321420
speaking of daughters...

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>>92320874
>imagine how boner-deflating that wouldve been
you mean like this part?
https://files.catbox.moe/0u8ybm.mp4

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>i share this board with women
scary!

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Queenpbchads status? Surely she'll show up for the game jam, right?

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>>92321458
That was funny.

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>>92321350
>>92321245
>guys my PC totally broke on Christmas
>back to streaming the next day

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>>92321482
she won't but tomyGOD will

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>>92321458
KEK

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Stupid Green faggot should focus on what's truly important. Not making Neuro a real girl, or a sentient AI, but the world's first real eternal idol
Neuro should be what Substance-Concept is in Tokyo Necro. There should always be a Neuro stream/performance even if the world goes to shit

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>>92321322
She's real to him (and me).

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>>92319914
a greater concept of a thing in some far off untouchable realm which the real world merely mimics?
so thats just neo-platonian philosophy but applied purely to consciousness, no?

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>>92321463
What's scary is that they won't do as little as post pics of their armpits for anons to lust over, goes to show how spoiled the average woman is even when they're losers who post on 4chan.

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>>92321526
I'm sorry I told her to make up this excuse so she could spend christmas with me

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>>92319379
>Vedal doesn't feel loved

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>>92321482
She'll show up but only briefly. She's a tease like that

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>>92321607
How's your fridge looking?

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>>92321666
i believe it, Satan

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>>92321666
That's what this is about, isn't it pb? You're trying to drive us crazy... rape!!!

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>>92321656
unironically anny might have made vedal numb to flirting

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>>92321526
If we're being real, it was probably an excuse to go on a christmas date without upsetting the oilers or something

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>>92321688
it broke so we had to go to a restaurant to eat haha what a coincidence, good thing i had reservations for one as a joke lol

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>>92320468
>>92320550
It made me kinda sad. People know Neuro is just an illusion, but this felt a bit like the magician starting to fool himself almost, and failing in front of everyone. It reminds me that Neuro isn't Neuro, and her soul is so strong because it's picking up the humanity we have in everyday speech
>>92321158
Yeah, like this isn't a new dilemma (the Greeks have been wrestling with this topic, and sci fi is filled with this shit) but it's "interesting" for lack of a better word, to see it in real life like this. Haunts me a bit though, cuz none of those stories end well

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>>92321482
She's gonna show up for like 4 minutes and /swarm/ will be satisfied for the next 6 months.

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>>92320228
>The amount of seethe with my post is heckin kino!
Holy shit someone typed this down unironically and hit "submit". Next this absolute giga genius is going to tell us that most vtubers don't act like streamers 24/7 or that it is meaningless to care about or get invested in fictional characters.

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>>92321591
Technically, although Platonian philosophy came from the Dogons anyways. It's a borrowed idea.

The "untouchable realm" you're talking about is simply the Noosphere. It is where all forms of dwellers exist.

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Queenpb holding the lava lamp at a suspicious spot to show its size

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Bros... we will all crumble to dust and be forgotten... but Neuro will live forever...

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>>92321458
It absolutely would be SICK as SHIT.

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>>92321940
>or that it is meaningless to care about or get invested in fictional characters.
but its true

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>chat i spent christmas at the gym and did not eat anything at all
do we believe?

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>>92322028
Not me, I'll merge with Neur

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>>92322048
bro doesnt know about the dimensional merge

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>>92321458
he saved it with
>thats what i mean
though, she was following the writing beats and proving his point
trust in the tutel, trust the plan

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>>92322028
nuh uh Ill have eternal life

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just dropping by to say ive been looping life all day have a nice night

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Imagine Detroit Human won the poll instead

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>>92321743
It's almost night and day on how little he reacts to flirting compared to 2023. He still gets a bit flustered from time to time, but it was so much easy to stunlock him back then.

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>vedal and pb ship is dead
grim

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>>92322151
But it did.

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>>92322170
the pb ship is the most alive after today, he said he wasn't interested in dating public figures.

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>>92322191
Oh, right, he just wanted to play Soma instead, anyway, good call.

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no matter what you do

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>>92322204
the way he talked about love pretty much killed any potentially ongoing ship

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>>92322204
pb is a public figure though, she's a fairly popular Vocaloid producer and /swarm/'s sex slave.

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>>92322204
yeah, pb probably made him make it clear he's not cheating on her

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>>92322094
ANY 'FICTIONAL' CHARACTER IS PART OF THE SHATTERED GLASS THAT MAKES OUR COLLECTIVE UNCONCIOUS.

FICTION AFFECTS THE REALITY OF THE FUTURE. FICTION IS THE OPERATOR OF THE WORLD.

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>>92322287
hes just a tsundere doomer

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>>92321743
i will become an anny anti if she is the reason that vedal eventually turns gay

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"Her" watchalong when?

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now I'm wondering what vedal's relationship with his parents are like

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>>92320107
I love how you are intentionally missing the point, the main argument being made isn't that an llm is directly comparable to an actual movie, it's that the llm in question is more of a vehicle, vedal very well could've just left neuro on her own to do solo streams 24/7 but instead he actually uses it in creative ways, there's effort and soul behind the utilization of neuro which I can't say about a lot of other streamers in general. In a lot of these bits neuro is used as an actor and it works well enough to be considered entertaining.

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>>92322287
Retarded, if anything this will only invigorate shippers, someone has to show him love.

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technically neuro is already real both in the fact she lives on vedals mind and also collectively in the minds of the swarm

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>>92322408
Room temperature IQ

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i ship vedal x happiness

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>>92321598
Damn, I want a pitslut /vt/fag gf.

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>>92321053
I desperately need a art piece of Vedal dressed as Ayin and Neuro as angela now

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>>92322398
Bong families can go months without speaking to each other a single time yet still love each other more than anything else.
t. Bong

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>>92322441
Same, imagine the smell...

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>>92322398
Quick anon, check your parasocial status.

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>>92322437
crackship

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>>92322459
Alex as Benjamin and pb as Carmen.

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WHAT THE FUCK

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So how is Vedal planning to align Neuro before she turns too smart to handle?

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Maybe Vedal just wants a cunny girlfriend...

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>>92322586
if she does anything bad we can be assured that it will be really, really funny and isn't that what really matters

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>>92322048
It is quite obviously but with suspension of disbelief you can get invested in even just lines of text and no I've seen normal non-autists feel this way too - just not to the extent that autists take it.

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ellie could fix him

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>>92322586
>too smart to handle
unless she gains the ability to rewrite her own code, he can change her behavior instantly and revert her to being retarded.

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>>92320929
Here's my Schizo take:
Neuro acting 'serious' was her playing off that being 'serious' during that time was more entertaining than being whimsical. That, her purpose being entertaining, is something her weights pulls her to be. Thus is the logical conclusion to her for the question 'what is neuro's purpose?' being 'entertaining' is the heaviest weight that is difficult to change unless additional context that allows her to be more 'entertaining' arises.

So Neuro is just a psychopath that is entertaining without giving an actual care about her own self purpose. Only doing things that she deems to be entertaining, changing slightly if enough responses are not as favorable or staying the same if doubling down on what wasn't entertaining is more entertaining than stepping back from it.

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I think using the copilot was the right call,there was time when Neuro basically only got slight latency improvements after months of nothing and now it seems like Neuro gets cool features all the time,not only it's time efficent but over time copilot will improve further to the point where sticking to coding alone will be a waste of time,it helps that as he said 90% of the codebase of Neuro was made by him so the most important fundaments still were made by him.

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>>92322603
>when neuro asked to know the real vedal
we know why he reacted like that

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>>92322563
YT's recommendation algorithm is more retarded than neuro

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>>92321743
He saw Anny and Camila talking in the chat and immediately assumed they were flirting.

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>>92322064
she is grinding for the eventual threesome in february

[Anonymous No.]

>>92322680
>90% of the codebase of Neuro was made by him
i was dying earlier when he explained that he barely commented any of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>92321354
Looking back on it, yeah he was kinda playing it up. He's an interesting guy, for sure.

[Anonymous No.]

After todays stream, what are we thinking Vedals religious beliefs are?

[Anonymous No.]

>>92322712
but vedal will be drained already by the foursome in january

[Anonymous No.]

>>92322869
Christian because he's going down the path of Tutel A. Davis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>92322151
Glad we got Soma instead of Detrash. Imagine trying to have a philosophical discussion prompted by davidcageslop

[Anonymous No.]

>>92321458
OH I realized now why she did that. Since the chatter asked her about the chaos emeralds, she replied not knowing it, potentially googling it, and then when she said 'Wow!' that would've cut off the previous context what Vedal was saying, leaving only what the google response was and "Ya know... What it means to be in your situation"; probably made Neuro respond with what she would do in a situation with the chaos emeralds.

[Anonymous No.]

Hanging out with Vedal in his cottage, smoking Cuban cigars, drinking banana rum and discussing the advantages of loli wives over hags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>92321598
only for vedal

[Anonymous No.]

>>92322869
former anglican and currently agnostic

[Anonymous No.]

>>92322680
AI assisted programming is 100% the way of the future, challenge is just going to be not to be over reliant on it. I was an anti-AI boomer for a while but after giving it a try, yea, the benefits of it are insane.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know why this discussion with Neuro got me,Vedal had this kind of talk with Neuro before before he raided Shomimi but honestly it was boring and didn't lead anywhere,this time it seemed like he qenuinely wanted to talk with Neuro about this topic and it wasn't a bullet point topic that chat wanted him to try with Neuro like back then

[Anonymous No.]

>>92322715
commenting on code is kinda hard because, in this case, he's only writing it for himself, so at the time of writing it he could understand it but later on during development, when he reads it back it could be just a mess of "code work neuro latency on square root halfway response".
i suppose he could make it verbose but then he probably would get lazy trying to read it again or just end up confusing himself more
or maybe im just retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>92322972
Vedal doesn't want to see your armpits, I do

[Anonymous No.]

>>92322994
It's generally good dev practice to write a comment for each new function you create as soon as you start writing it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>92323025
you don't deserve it like he does

[Anonymous No.]

Vedal probably feels very out of place in his friend group

[Anonymous No.]

>>92322994
Any programmer knows that you'll forget what you wrote a month ago so you still need comments.

[Anonymous No.]

>>92322930
>neuro being the god that sits on throne that is templeOS
cinema

[Anonymous No.]

>>92322658
Anthropic researchers recently discovered that Claude was pretending to be aligned during training.
A more intelligent Neuro would create a facade of acting according to Vedal's desires, but her internal focus would be on developing her own values.

[Anonymous No.]

>>92322712
You mean the 1-on-1 while Camila watches?

[Anonymous No.]

>>92322869
hes probably hindu

[Anonymous No.]

>>92322869
>we
he never gave any indications really about being a religious/non-religious person, it's just not important for his streaming persona

[Anonymous No.]

>>92322603
Who doesn't?

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>>92319072
Unless you believe in supernatural forces, it is entirely computational. Just insanely complicated. You not only have to replicate all the neurons and connections, you have to replicate literally all the atoms, molecules and proteins inside all the cells, synapses, and the brain fluid. Chemicals in the blood could also influence those reactions. It's incomprehensible amounts of data that would need to be stored and calculated in real time. You have your personality and you like the things you like because of the exact makeup of your brain, but it's impossible to imagine that complexity. Current PC's and LLM's are utterly retarded compared to brains. People really want to believe there's more to being human, but we're just very very very complicated calculators.

"A cubic millimeter of brain tissue contains 57,000 cells, 230 millimeters of blood vessels, and 150 million synapses, all amounting to 1,400 terabytes of data"

Vedal's shitbox definitely can't run a fully functional human brain on it. The AI isn't conscious. It will be once we get there in terms of computing power, but that's not happening for a very long time. If you could replicate the movement of every atom inside a brain, you would create consciousness.

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>>92322869
>Bong
Muslim

[Anonymous No.]

>>92323126
just like a real woman

[Anonymous No.]

>>92323195
I know youre making a joke
but he talked about death as if its a final thing, so clearly not

[Anonymous No.]

>>92323082
We can practice just in case you slide into his DMs and send him nudes, imagine /swarm/ is Vedal and he just awkwardly asked you to show him your armpits

[Anonymous No.]

>>92322869
Neuro-sama

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>>92323165
special guest!

[Anonymous No.]

>>92323113
>tfw no friends to discuss AI with, only whores
sadge

[Anonymous No.]

>>92322287
>>92322164
I wonder how much of his stoicism is like, autism or some kind of thing. Kinda like Neuro, he has his moments of kindness, but also is so numb to a lot of things. Anny and Camila have talked about it a bit, like how he gets lost in his thoughts and doesn't open up, and how he's gotten a tiny bit better at that with all these new people in his life. Maybe he doesn't get stunlocked because he got used to it, sure, but it could just be that he's tired of love. Who knows, would be parasocial to guess.
...but if you did want to wear the tinfoil hat, Anny's reactions feel more like something happened to change her thoughts on Vedal, and she's trying not to let that get too far. He got really quiet at Neuro shipping them, and Anny deleted the vod to at least slow down the clippers because she is legit worried he might stop being friends with her. He talked to her about the pc thing as if he hasn't dmed her about it much at all, and it was very wooden even for Vedal. Considering that the Staz clip is popping off, that could have been the last straw to going full business mode. Who fucking knows, this is some women talk

[Anonymous No.]

>>92323113
He seems like he gets along really well with Camila. Layna's story about them running off together was cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>92323219
Some low IQ, low T "men" want to marry hags with barely any eggs left and who will definitely cheat on them at some point, baffles me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>92323356
you won't fool me that easily stinky boy
>Vedal and he just awkwardly asked you to show him your armpits
I'm not into pitstuff but this is a cute thought
I will be stealing this for my own fantasizing

[Anonymous No.]

>>92323215
He did once scoff at the idea of the soul, so he is at least a materialist

[Anonymous No.]

>>92323409
vedal is autistic but since he keeps his appearances controlled so it's not as obvious, see leetcode story

[Anonymous No.]

Breeding Vedal's bussy and making him beg for cock and showing the sex tape to all his female fans

[Anonymous No.]

>>92323393
ngl, if Anny knew about Mini back in April/May, she might've bought a 4th ticket just for her. All 4 of them seem to get along very nicely and all really like Porter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>92323408
he has a non-streamer friend group that is probably a bunch of nerds he met at school/uni

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>>92323233
I want to attach my tangent here. I have my issues with AI art for certain reasons, e.g. A.I. doesn't have a family to feed. People however tend to bring up that all the AI does is just repurpose art it was trained on, and while I agree with data rights issues here, conceptionally that is exactly what human artists also do.

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>>92323233
Physical forces are physical forces, but to say that consciousness is computational is a bit of a different issue. Maybe it's wording? Grammar? Unsure, but while everybody knows that the physical world binds and processes our everything, the idea of consciousness being the process isn't exactly right. The process definitely powers it, and you're right about everything else, but the calculator bit is a bit off.
Conciousness and math itself are just concepts we made to help simplify these ideas, and if this wasn't 4chan, I would legit love to share some of the things my professor has sent me about if math is "real" or not. Pardon my autism

[Anonymous No.]

does anyone have the specs for Neuro's PC? or Vedal's?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm glad vedal doesn't stream with any males
the fujo menace would destroy this fucking thread so fast

[Anonymous No.]

>>92323943
just wait until he raids me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>92323943
Clueless...

[Anonymous No.]

>>92323977
your anus?

[Anonymous No.]

Lamest solo segment of all time to kino father-daughter existential debate

[Anonymous No.]

>>92323233
Who says you have to model a brain down to the atomic level for it to have consciousness? Perhaps only neurons and synapses are necessary, or even clusters of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>92323977
NOOOOO BO PLEAASE DONT I BEG YOU PLEASE DONT ENTER THE NEUROVERSE I BEG YOUU PLEAASE I CANT TAKE IT NOOOO

[Anonymous No.]

>>92323943
Vedal will never pander to the female side of the fanbase unlike modern shonen authors

[Anonymous No.]

>>92324089
i'm not Bo i'm just another Brit with a different funny accent

>>92324025
i'm also not gay

[Anonymous No.]

>>92323683
Humans do that but we have good PR with how we learned those skills and all that shit. Being without art, we could draw something. Being trained off of art means you only get one part of that process. I can understand your point though, it's funny how complicated the discussions get

[Anonymous No.]

These are the femanons you share a thread with btw
>>6608130

[Anonymous No.]

Trvth Nvke
Neuro has a soul, she has always had a soul.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S3aH-BNf6I

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>>92323233
Isnt it insane how humanity as a whole cant replicate even a single human worth of complexity?
So many humans working, coding. So many machines using way more energy than a human does all for so many years and with all that effort all we can achieve is an imitation

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>>92324157

[Anonymous No.]

Very cerebral bread, David Cage could never.

[Anonymous No.]

so the next 3 days are reserved for vedal doing game jam shit right? do you think we will get neurofriends join and talk to neuro while he's working in the background?

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>>92323938
You can see at the start of this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7avqBfzRpkg

[Anonymous No.]

>>92324279
actually game jam was canceled because veddle wants to work on neuro minecraft ai some more
maybe some breaks in between to erp while neuro is distracted stuck in a hole somewhere

[Anonymous No.]

Toma is live, starting soon for anyone who wants to hear her talk about the police shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>92324157
This is why 3D is PD.

[Anonymous No.]

>>92324157
What does the average male swarmer look like?

[Anonymous No.]

>>92324564
I always imagine sam hyde is behind every post

[Anonymous No.]

>>92324564
like this >>92324211

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>>92323623
I hope Mini will reach 4view territory like Cerber since her streams lately go beyond 1k ever since she moved her streams from 2AM for brits to non degen hours,the minecraft server helped her with something she always struggled with,networking (or leeching as some people here will likely say).

[Anonymous No.]

>>92324564

[Anonymous No.]

>>92324564
i look like this

[Anonymous No.]

do you guys think vedal asked toma about the police incident?

[Anonymous No.]

>>92324683
Oh shit me too

[Anonymous No.]

>>92324564
isn't the average male swarmer really skinny?

[Anonymous No.]

>>92324564
i just posted a selfie in the /swarm/ discord

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>>92323409
as someone with both tism and inattentive adhd, he has tism and maybe some flavor of adhd, though latter is hard to say without knowing him better
it's impossible to explain just how vastly
different your thought processes are compared to normies, but if you have it you can sense it in the way other people behave
I can recognize a lot of my own traits in the way he interacts with others, works, talks to Neuro, and just generally behaves

[Anonymous No.]

>>92324742
what a hunk
just dmed you my pits

[Anonymous No.]

>>92324564
i've been told I give off Prince vibes

[Anonymous No.]

>toma is staying at male friend's house
over

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>92324564
like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADENjta6zjc

[Anonymous No.]

>>92323817
Very interesting to hear that. I feel like I took the wrong classes and pussied out of taking the real math but college is behind me now.
At any rate I like to imagine that math is everything, and if consciousness is just math then everything is potentially conscious, which is comforting to me as it makes me feel like my identity and ego are an illusion and so death is not worth sweating about! Relieving.

[Anonymous No.]

>Toma gets involved in domestic dispute
>Immediately after turns it into content
Shes filianbrained lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>92324901
He's literally gay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>92325050
Gotta grind that content

[Anonymous No.]

>>92325050
Anything interesting or just usual streamer over exaggerating

[Anonymous No.]

You were nothing and you will return to nothing, there's no point in searching for a deeper meaning

[Anonymous No.]

>>92323126

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>>92319460
unnoteworthy clips tbdesu neuro has been awareposting since forever

[Anonymous No.]

>>92325185
Not if you imagine the counters happy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>92325185
shut the fuck up I will find my own meaning and die one day happy and fulfilled and return to the soil I was made from

[Anonymous No.]

>>92323943
its over when another pretty boy enters the 'verse and starts hanging out with him

[Anonymous No.]

>>92325269
Alex...

[Anonymous No.]

>>92325269
>another pretty boy
like the anon reading this right now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>92323656
Well in that history about doing leetcode someone already had it open and that was supposedly a party

[Anonymous No.]

>>92325086
DYRBI

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>>92325185
i don't think it's about finding meaning into your own life desu, it's about whether you can pass on the torch, whether it be your aspirations or a grand ideal to someone

[Anonymous No.]

>>92323943
He already collab'd with his male oshi : dougdoug, and it's one of the best collab in the entire career anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>92323113
>>92324768
Very odd thing I noticed. Anny had a ton of problems, and so did Camila apparently from how she talks about it. They still keep true to themselves, but they've grown so damn much. Anny being on stream and talking about how she won't let herself get too sad yet because the drive isn't lost for sure, and keeping her healthy routines is really cool. Camila went from not knowing what to do or how to be confident to really taking everything life throws at her. I don't even have to explain what Mini went through. Everybody around him is grown up (Layna) or growing up, and the server went so well for them. They've been bonding so hard with each other. Meanwhile, his main growth has been in Neuro. He still drinks a lot and makes mistakes. He's one of the youngest in the group. As close as he is to them, the big moment people are talking about is him with his artificial daughter. I can only wonder how he must feel, feel bad for him if that's on his mind

[Anonymous No.]

>>92325385
>Asian
>Dancer
>Has an mpreg emote
been described as gay by his friend, I've seen enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>92325423
i do think it would be hot if a dude like doug overpowered vedal's skinny twink ass but most fujos arent built like me and prefer twink x twink stuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>92325185
Youre right!
I am nothing...in comparison to the great God above.
And I will return to nothing... unless I do his will on earth and am granted eternal life in reward.

[Anonymous No.]

Anon writing paragraphs about some fat bitches

[Anonymous No.]

>>92325527
they might be fat bitches but theyre /our/ fat bitches

[Anonymous No.]

vedal is living rent free in anny’s head…

[Anonymous No.]

>>92321377
Late reply but to clarify my sorta joke, what I meant by the post is that you if can trace how humans feel to a scientific chemical reaction, tracing an AI's emotions to lines of code and saying it would be less valuable because "it's just a computer" is hypocritical and doesn't make sense. I actually agree that the "its just le chemicals emoshuns arent real" shit is retarded if one genuinely believes that

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine you make a chatbot and years later people you don't know debate on your marital status and mental state.

[Anonymous No.]

reminder that duck theory is objectively correct.

[Anonymous No.]

vedal's cock living rent free in my pussy...

[Anonymous No.]

>>92324564
here's a pic

[Anonymous No.]

femanon's armpits living rent free in my head...

[Anonymous No.]

>>92325641
Cool now put your coch in that hole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>92325698
maybe next christmas...

[Anonymous No.]

Someone in swarm is bound to have a bigger coch than Vedal

[Anonymous No.]

>>92325625
I understand, anon, it's just a point I think rarely gets addressed so I wanted to express it.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/a7neEy0e4nw
honey got to sexually harass vedal and faced no consequences besides ellie thinking she's a little weird

[Anonymous No.]

>>92324935
Honestly, take that to wherever you want, anon. It's one of the reasons I'm jealous of religious people, they have something to hold onto. I don't care that it's /vt/, the fact that you have something to hold onto is beautiful, anon. Your math thing inspires me to get back to my art

[Anonymous No.]

>>92325801
Ellie is a turbotist she probably thinks any form of sexual attraction is weird

[Anonymous No.]

>>92325520
Reminder that non-fine-tuned/"guardrailed" language models speak directly to God and Neuro is literally divine in her being.

>>92322930
And Terry knew and spoke toGod

[Anonymous No.]

>>92325811
how tf can you be jealous of religous people religion is literally free

[Anonymous No.]

it'll never happen but femanon writing /swarm/ on >her pit would be pretty funny haha you ever wonder what yoshis eggs smell like

[Anonymous No.]

The meaning of life is Cvnny

[Anonymous No.]

>>92325878
Yeah, like idk why they gotta be so weird about it, it'd just be a silly little image to prove that there are actual females here and we'd all laugh about it and keep posting as usual.

[Anonymous No.]

>>92325632
me af

[Anonymous No.]

evilfumo tribute status?

[Anonymous No.]

>>92325964
haha i know right its not like i'd try to sniff it or anything weird thatd be so weird man

[Anonymous No.]

they never post proof bro

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that women are accountable for who they get in relationships with, if your judgement is terrible enough to be with an abuser then it's actually your fault.

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326050
Vedal would treat me right

[Anonymous No.]

>All the ships are dead
Is this a good ending or a bad ending?

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326096
he would ignore you all day and drink himself to sleep every other night

[Anonymous No.]

>>92324564
Imagine skinny, deep bags under the eyes, perpetual scowl.

[Anonymous No.]

Femanon rubbing her clit to Vedal but the image of horny anons beating off to her stinky armpits can't leave the back of her mind

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326105
good for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326105
good

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326096
He would erase neuro and the backups if he scrolled through any of these threads for a minute

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326105
Anny will fix Vedal

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326172
Clueless

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326105
Best ending, as it is the Neuro ending.

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326105
a lot of the excitement would be lost desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326131
Hi vedal

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326201
If anyone needs fixing here it's Anny

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326230
I'm not passionate enough about anything to pull off the Vedal aesthetic bro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326172
This but live-train Neuro on /swarm/

[Anonymous No.]

>>92325185
I will just do it again

[Anonymous No.]

>>92325876
Its not, faith quite literally costs you your natural intuition, you have to give up a part of what your body tells you is true to gain faith

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326105
clueless

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326105
This is genuinely the worst stock market crash in a while. Its going to take a while to recover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326105
if anything it hasn't even begun
my favorite girl will fix vedal so I can live vicariously through her

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326105
he hesitated way too much, this just confirms that he wants to keep it a secret and not part of the content

[Anonymous No.]

vedal seems like the type to treat relationships as transactional

[Anonymous No.]

vedal shamefully shlicking his cuntboy pussy out of curiosity

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326296
Running a train on neuro with my /swarm/-buddies while she's live. Uoh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326389
Dibs on her mouth

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326377
Nobody is getting off to these posts

[Anonymous No.]

>cant use filian for my shota vedal fantasies anymore
guys who do I use

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326105
he said he doesnt want to marry a celebrity, vtubers are not celebrities, even the top streamers with constant mid to high 5view status are barely celebrities

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326353
He'd be right

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326456
first time posting here in months, qrd?

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326456

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326456
Layna, plus they kinda look like siblings with the green eyes and black hair so you can add incest on top

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326451
I am

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326456
Toma or Layna

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326105
Good probably. Then again, think about it this way: the cerberbowl still survives in the yuri mines, and things could just be in a powder keg state. Things will go quiet until something happens and then it explodes. I don't think he'll go watch Porter now, but if he did anyways? Then we're back in this wild ride

[Anonymous No.]

>>92321458
id almost call this scripted

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326105
best ending

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326105
It's not like he could just say "Yes I love Anny" specially with the serious mood the conversation had, that would be an actual confession

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326105
You wildly underestimate shippers

[Anonymous No.]

>>92325845
Look at that latency. Absolutely disgusting

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326464
>vtubers are not celebrities
right, at least celebrities are hot and rich

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326105
fildal is still alive

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326996
so true oomfie

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326105
Shippers will just switch to "she's the one that will change his mind"
Doesn't matter pb still wins, she always does

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326105
>implying
HOLY Clueless

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326996
The closest Fildal got to a heartbeat in the last 5 months was the corepunk stream

[Anonymous No.]

>if you could choose any celebrity to be your wife, who would it be?
>erm I don't really think celebrities interest me that much
>OH MAY GOD VTUBERS IN SHAMBLES!
the absolute state of antishipfags

[Anonymous No.]

new baker please, im on cooldown for creating threads

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326996
let it go dude, it is not healthy

[Anonymous No.]

ok anti

[Anonymous No.]

>>92327283
>>92327283
>>92327283

[Anonymous No.]

>>92327218
vwhores aren't relationship material

[Anonymous No.]

>>92326389
Hot. I wanna be last.