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92107269 No.92107269 [Reply] [Original]

what stopping a fanbase to attach a community note on graduation announcement with roommate account (if they plan to reincarnate) to retain their fans? why are we following the corporate guidelines? doki did it and it worked well.

>> No.92108667

>>92107269
the corpo could just delete the tweet

>> No.92108778

>>92108667
fpbp

Also it only worked with Doki because Kurosanji's betrayal of her was so cartoonishly evil.

>> No.92108900
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92108900

>>92107269
Damn, indiefags aren't taking doob failing to retain her audience and failing to "kill hololive" well huh?
You're resorting to retarded schemes now?

>> No.92109017

>>92108900
go to bed, bvtm.

>> No.92109163

>>92108778
And their termination of Twisty will be much worse
>"Based on our third party investigation, it has been determined that there is a small but non-zero chance that the allegations Twisty made against one of our male livers is not 100% true and correct"
>"Therefore we have decided to assume that her allegations are completely meritless and malicious, and as such we have made the decision to terminate her contract with immediate effect"
>"Oh by the way here's a laundry list of other violations she did while in Nijisanji" **provides a list that makes Zaion's list look like a ticket for littering**
And then some livers will be voluntold to do a black screen against Twisty. This part will be easier for management if the livers they "randomly" choose are physically in Japan when the termination notice gets published, so that they can't legally refuse to do it.

>> No.92110173

>>92107269
>let's get our oshi in trouble as a final goodbye gifr!

>> No.92110357

>>92107269
>Want to normalize ddoxfagging
Western VTubing was a mistake

>> No.92110363

>>92110173
What fucking trouble, bootlicker? Corpo ls won't prevent fans from discovering PLs. Graduation does not equal vanishing from the face of the Earth.

>> No.92110467

>>92110363
aaand the mask falls off easily, ladies and gentlemen

>> No.92110579

>>92109163
Some anon (that isn't me) should make a bingo card template for Niji terminations. Just without troll points and with stuff that is possible considering the past ones.

>> No.92110700

>>92110467
I wasn't aware i wore a mask.

>> No.92111464

>>92109163
I doubt they'll do another black stream.
When they terminated Zaion the notice had a bulleted list and there was some criticism, so when they terminated Selen they decided that the problem was the lack of specificity and wrote a whole paragraph for each bullet point.
Based on that, when the livers throw Twisty under the bus, they'll probably be onscreen, have more "evidence" in the background, and go on longer. Because being too plain and short was clearly the problem with the black stream.

>> No.92112953

>>92110173
but fr what trouble? you can't sue a vtuber because you don't like her fans action.

>> No.92113783

>>92108900
Not one indie has the same CCV. Not one. All of them have gone down.
And yes, Fauna will be the same after she graduates.
You can argue Mint and Doki but for the most part, no one is able to retain their old CCV. Drones gonna drone. That's the trvth.

>> No.92113916

>>92113783
Mint and Doki are both weird exceptions that make no sense

>> No.92114169

>>92113916
Because they left Kurosanji which is honorable in its own right.
No one in their right mind should leave Hololive. It's the golden ticket. You're universally seen as a traitor after graduation.

>> No.92114558 [DELETED] 

>>92114169
People who oshi companies are braindead

>> No.92115198

>>92114169
>it's good they left Nijisanji!
>now allow my rhetoric to seamlessly merge with a Nijisister's when explaining why it is unacceptable to leave MY company!

>> No.92115273

>>92115198
Yes sister, keep seething at Daddy KWAB

>> No.92115382

>>92115198
Nijisanji should unironically go under for driving Selen to a suicide attempt.
You're not subtle at all sister. TND

>> No.92115420

>>92115273
Keeping gargling salaryman semen, be just like your oshi.

>> No.92115457

>>92113916
because nijisanji was unironically holding them back.

>> No.92115633

>>92113916
They are not exceptions, almost all female liver got higher CCV after leaving Niji
Matara, MIchi, Sunny, for example
Niji EN as a brand simply expels male audience at this point

>> No.92115722

>>92115420
At least I don't drive my former talents to suicide sister

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92115966

>>92115382
>>92115722
>s-sister!
Get new material, Holodrones.

>> No.92116007

>>92115633
Matara joined a corpo and Michi wasn't EN

>> No.92116013

>>92113783
I'm almost completely sure that if Fauna streams on YT, she will retain at least 80% of her viewers. If she switches to Twitch, I'd say she will carry over like 30-ish%. I'll be watching either way, but Holy shit I despise twitch.

>> No.92116127

>roommate
Past life, anon. It's called past life.

>> No.92116488
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92116488

>>92115966
In that case I don't think we want someone who attacks Doki's friends. Eat shit.

>> No.92116498

>>92116013
Dooby lost 80% of her viewers KWAB

>> No.92116656

>>92109163
They aren't going to be that retarded again.

>> No.92116712

>>92116488
Doki isn't friends with Cover suits, they made that very clear by treating her like a leper since last Christmas.

>> No.92116716

>>92116498
She has the same number as she had in holo, if not more.

>> No.92116876

>>92116498
she already lost like 50% of her fans after the male yab while still in holo. you expect these former teammates just magically watch her now

>> No.92116925

>>92116716
Retard
>>92116876
kek nope

>> No.92116998

>>92116712
explain mumei nijisis you're really bad at this

>> No.92117030

>>92116716
People can't decide if they want the girls to be more successful as indies or admit they were failed as corpos. HoloEN gets generally pathetic numbers when you compare them to real vtubers. But when they debut as indies, suddenly they get real numbers for about three streams and then everyone moves on. Which is actually the same thing that happens when new talents debut too. Both Flow Glow or Aqua's reincarnation debuted to insanely massive numbers and then it just goes right back to nothing in comparison pretty quickly. Novelty buff exists and wears off for both corpos and indies.

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>>92116925
>>92117030
>>92116876
>>92116712
You're really not being very subtle about your numbermonkeyisming.
Eat shit and touch streams.

>> No.92117780

>>92116498
dooby is kinda boring, man.. Rarely streaming during her (re)debut honeymoon phase also didn't help. Be it because of isp or other bs.

>> No.92118005

>>92109163
If they do fire Twisty, all they have to do is just crib what Hololive did for firing rushia, and say she leaked while denying that mr *sigh* is a sex pest and sweep it under the rug by just not renewing his contract since this is a recurring issue.
Will they be that smart? Of course now.

>> No.92118172

>>92118005
Won't work, sisters will demand screenshots of sighguy sexually harassing his co-workers.

>> No.92118653

>>92117780
It's "muh PC dead" kek

>> No.92119333
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92119333

>>92116998
>Mumei is a Corpo suit
ESL, or trash reading comprehension?
>>92117290
Meds

>> No.92119444

>>92119333
rent free

>> No.92120239

>>92119333
I said you're numbermonkey trash, not that you were samefagging.
All of you can eat shit and stay out of this industry.

>> No.92120352

>>92119333
NTA you're just spineless coward, you would call the talent that doesn't suit your narrative as bootlicker, kys moron

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92121567

>>92107269
Community notes are like the one great feature left on twitter/X. Do not ruin it with unnecessary shit like this.
>doki did it and it worked well
Doki's was a special case. For starters it wasn't a graduation but a VERY controversial termination. Secondly, her mods went rogue (based) and outright used the Selen channel to promote Doki, so no need for any community notes fuckery.

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>>92116656

>> No.92121803

>>92114169
>You're universally seen as a traitor after graduation
The holo girls still hang out with kson (off-stream of course).

>> No.92122056

>>92116498
Ame was never a numberfag so I doubt it bothers her. She was like the 4th most popular EN during her tenure so I assume she saved up enough to retire comfortably. Her new persona is just something she does as a creative outlet with the added bonus of some coin on the side.

>> No.92122180

>>92121567
the mods were awesome for that.
Probably a big reason she makes sure to pay them too. They deserve it.

>> No.92122549

>>92122180
I really hope that some of Doki's mods are these same mods. They've definitely earned a medal of honor for this stunt. This is how it should be desu. Loyalty to the girls before the company.

>> No.92122773

>>92122549
They're the same ones. They even have the same names.

>> No.92122829

with fauna recently uploading videos on her pl channel, she clearly want something like that

>> No.92123149

>>92116656
Sure they aren't.

On Feb 4, everybody "knew" that Niji EN management would not be stupid enough to try to Zaion Selen with a slanderous and hostile termination notice - especially since her last tweet before getting suspended was telling her fans to violate Niji's IP rights by reuploading her MV (the MV itself is Nijisanji intellectual property). Everybody "knew" that they would use that half of that tweet against her; and not the other half, in which she said that management had privated the MV.
On Feb 6, everybody "knew" that they would not be stupid enough to suggest that the financial impact of firing her would be negligible; everybody "knew" they would not so callously dismiss her two and a half years with the company as if she was as easily disposable as an empty burger wrapper.
On Feb 12 at 7:25 pm EST, everybody "knew" that they would not be stupid enough to try to stream over Doki's first scheduled stream since returning to streaming, much less delay their own counter-programming to match up with Doki's delay.

And now, everybody "knows" that Niji EN management won't be stupid enough to try to do to Twisty what they've done to Zaion and Selen. Everybody "knows" that they won't try it a third time because the second time they tried it, they found out the hard way that it only works once.
And everybody "knows" that they aren't stupid enough to fire a sekuhara victim for the act of reporting (with receipts) to a third party that they chose to do nothing to the harasser.

>> No.92128223

>>92108667
wrong

>> No.92129305

>>92108667
The fans can attach another community note and repeat the back-and-forth until one side stops

>> No.92130912
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92130912

>>92116656
>They aren't going to be that retarded again.
lol lmao rofl kek xd bol ijbol csl lmbo lel rotfl fomcl lshifomb lqtm lawl pmsl ijdl lmfao hehe hoohoo haha 草 wwwwwww grass

>> No.92134509

>>92111464
specifically black stream not really
But Kotoka had a similarly short stream where she shit on Zaion.

>> No.92134789

>>92114169
only choco, mel and calli regularly interacted with her, the rest hangs out with them once every 3 years.

>> No.92136165

>>92107269
I feel it would only work with big enough chuubas who won't need extra exposure anyway. Doki was everywhere, community note didn't do jackshit.

>> No.92138830

>>92109163
Why are so many people on this board writing fanfics about the exact ways this plays out. I've seen like a dozen people claiming repeats of the black screen stream unless they're all the same retard repeating it every day.

>> No.92139053

>>92138830
pattern recognition
it's pretty similar to both cases
If they seriously try it a third time though, it will completely obliterate whatever's left of the branch

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