/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

What did Fauna expect? Did she really quit because she was asked to do something she didn't want to do, you know, like most people deal with every day? Hololive is a JOB. It's WORK. It was never supposed to be endless fun you get paid millions for. Where does this mentality come from? Life in Hololive is no better than being indie or small corpo other than the fact you get paid more for putting up with the same shit.

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sqrl

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>>92040417
Bootlicker

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>>92040417
how many shit bait threads have you made now brown feet fag? Genuinely pathetic

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>>92040525
if I had one dollar for every bait thread he made, I'd have more money than him

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>>92040500
>>92040525
>>92040644
Just wait. Wait for her to realize that going indie will be no better of an experience for her AND she'll be making less money. Yes she'll avoid the Japan stuff but she's entirely on her own with a huge fanbase; it won't be how it was before. 2-3 views can't even manage shit without trusted mods and managers, so how is she going to cope as a mid 4view. She's also one of the most opsec-paranoid mebers of EN. Terrified of being stalked and found out. Who's going to legally protect her now? There's no corpo that has to protect its talents now. She's ON HER OWN. Her managers and mods don't have higher-up expectations to meet and wages. They could all be manipulating and grooming Fauna and she'll never know. She's FUCKED.

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>>92040417
People quit/change jobs because it requires travel all the time.

And here in the western world, having a job isn't supposed to be synonymous with slavery; I know that isn't how it works everywhere else, but please respect our cultural differences.

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fdund thread

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>>92040918
>Who's going to protect her now?
You mean the non existent Holo security escorting the girls walking through Japan? Like that one time Biboo almost got pulled into an alley by an oji-san and get sent to a Yakuza rape dungeon, if it weren't for Shiori rescuing her?

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>>92040417
>>92040918
>schizo babble

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>>92040968
What you're forgetting is people often change industry or their role within the industry if they're unhappy with travel-related requirements. Fauna will be doing the exact same thing, nearly at the same scale with absolutely no professional corpo-backed support, 2 friends (Shondo & Mint, one of which is genuinely schizo) and a bunch of vulture leeches who'll try and get close to her to soak up her numbers. She's in for a nasty surprise and no redesign will save her from ex-corpo indie hell.

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>>92040918
>she'll be making less money
Dubious since she will finally have the paycut monkey off her back.

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>>92040417
>Yagoo: "Sukku mai penisu"
>Fauna: "No."
>You: WHAT A LAZY WHORE! IT'S WORK! DO AS YOU'RE TOLD!
No one has no idea what "disagreements with management" meant, no one will ever know, and anyone assuming what it is to creat drama is either a retard bait faggot, or a retard corpobootliker.

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>>92041371
The first 3-6 months they'll be a spike in income, like kson, then a very fast decline as people start to realize she's nothing special. There will likely be another HoloEN gen by that point and Fauna has nothing unique to offer unlike Doki, Mint and Dooby. She has a lot of competition right from the start if all she does is play games and talk.

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>>92040417
If she's happy I'm happy idc about the rest of your drama. She is probably going to become the undisputed queen of the indies and there's nothing yagoo can or will do about it.

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>>92040918
you stupid fucking moron. She was indie for 4 years and racked in hundreds of thousands of views. she did just fine on her own

Protect it's talents? Tell me what an amazing job Cover did of 'protecting' Mel, Coco and Aloe. What about when Kiara literally got assaulted at a con or when biboo almost got pulled into an alley

Get a life or end your own

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>>92040968
>Our job is not a slavery
>aiiieee, why can't I pay a rent?!! Fucking capitalism

Yeah, it is not a slavery, it is DUTY. Westerner zoomers are irresponsible as fuck, they still have a child mentality in late 20s

Capitalism is good, because it provides opportunities for achievers and social climbers, while forcing otherwise unproductives to produce something of a value

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>>92041540
>Mel
they had like 2 employees at that time
>Coco
they axed an entire fucking branch for her and let her humiliate the CEO during her graduation which is unheard of in Japanese companies
>Aloe
she was menhera as hell at the time and was a fucking ticking time bomb like Rushia, she was never going to last

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>>92041709
the guy who raped mel is still working for cover lol

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>>92040918
Fauna has considered all of that and still made the decision to leave Hololive. If money was the only thing she cared about she would have stayed but the same can be said for Aqua, Ame, and Chloe. The entire reason management was making talents say they are okay with the direction of Hololive is because this looks bad. They either hated dealing with management or they were so disgusted by the future management plans they decided to quit. The damage control was needed since Cover had to convince fans the graduations weren't caused by widespread problems with the company.

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>>92041709
>Hey, she only got raped by 1 out of 2 employees, that's like a 50/50 chance! She just got unlucky
>She showed Google analytics on stream!? Oy Chong! SHUT IT DOWN! Deploy the spam bots, harass her until suicide, for the Great Republic!
>Bitch can't deal with some harassment, doxxing, and death threats, without jumping out of a window? Who do she thinks we are, Nijisanji! Give her the silent treatment until she quits, she's not even worth firing.

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>>92041709
>>92041764
I'm sure he is gone but I wouldn't put it past other Cover management feeling like they got unfairly treated and holding a grudge against Mel. Just because 'Cover the company' and Yagoo felt bad and did what they could to help Mel out, there may have been a few spread out in management who resented her going litigious and putting their friend in a bad light. It may explain why she was always shorted on opportunities over the years. And why she was frustrated enough to vent about work bullshit, unfortunately, to the wrong type of friend.

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>>92041709
shit deflection brown feet, still no trace of the 'protection' you seemingly think Cover offers. because it doesn't exist.

The guy who harassed mel never got fired, CN was axed because they were wolf warriors and Aloe being mental still doesn't change the fact she got doxxed, stalked and harassed. bumfuck management did nothing and she quit. Despite this 'protection' the company offers

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>>92042043
I've been watching Biboo, CC, Shiori (before her family kidnapping) and Raora a lot recently and they all seem perfectly fine and driven, with lots of ideas and projects they're working on. I've watched the other members via collabs with the above 4 and they also seem perfectly fine, too. I genuinely think it was just Fauna that felt victimized. Members like Shiori and Raora are pretty easy to read when it comes to behind the scenes stuff affecting them and they're both quite transparent about how they're feeling and the compromises they'll need to make to cater for increased homework/training/duties. It really is pointing to Fauna being a little princess and just not wanting to do something she doesn't want to do, forgetting just how privileged of a situation she's in.

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>>92040918
why so upsetti

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>>92040417
Well, i quit my job of 4 years because company wanted to add something to my role that i didn't agree. It's not like you have to stay if things go wrong, just find another job. Life's about trade offs and you are always free to move on if you get a shit deal. It's not that big of a deal unless you have signed the slave contract of some huge loan.

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>>92041540
>Kiara literal-ACK
That wasn't Kiara you stupid faggot , Cover is not responsible for her dumbass exposing herself like that

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>>92041540
Wait what happened to Biboo?

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>>92041764
>things that never happened for 500$

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>>92042769
Biboo and 1-2 other EN girls nearly got picked up in some way. The only saving grace was that they were part of a group so it ended up with nothing happening but it does speak to the dangers of having a clueless foreigner woman out by herself in certain areas at night.
Pretty much common sense but people may have a false sense of security thinking that Japan is some utopia where everything is safe.

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>>92042694
I get that, but did you end up doing the EXACT same job but self-employed, instead, obviously without having to do that additional thing your previous employer added to your role? This is what Fauna is doing. She worked for a company. Company must've changed something she disagreed with, so she quit. Now she's doing the exact same thing on her own, with none of the securities you get working for a company. It's going to be just as bad of an experience and she has no one. She can't just collab with Mumei and GG, girls she clearly gets on well with. She's isolated.

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>>92042907 (me)
I should add each were separate incidents, I think one of the other ones that nearly got picked up was Shiori.

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>>92042739
i'm not the retard asserting that Cover provides magic protection, learn to read dipshit

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>>92042907
Jesus, glad they're ok at least.

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>>92040417
She got tired of holo fans and management probably asked her to be more inviting to them (parasocial) and she noped out.

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>>92040417
When are these retarded posts going to stop? Are they just shitposting or are people really braindead? I guess both

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>>92043166
>She got tired of holo fans
>decided to funnel the same fans to her rm soon before her announcement and expect them to change
I thought she was the smart one?

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>>92040417
>It was never supposed to be endless fun you get paid millions for.
except it can
I know it's hard to believe for someone like you, but there do exist people who *can* do literally whatever they want and still live an infinitely better life than you could ever even dream of

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>>92042769
Pick your flavor of clipper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qahr8dtuKM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRshdsIJWys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOpdzrZgmp0

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>>92041466
She’s mommy. She just needs a lemony booba model

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>>92043387
Seethe. The reason why Fauna quit is because of her shitty attitude. Remember that members like Koyori and Sora stream to RELAX. Even Raora and Biboo are borderline at that point based on how they describe their typical day in Japan and all the things they're having to do for Hololive. Raora is even doing things Hololive isn't asking of her, like kickboxing, just to get her fitness levels up for when dance practice starts. These girls are hungry and aren't lazy NA white vegans. Streaming for Fauna was a chore. She'll never last as an indie.

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good thread but how about these dubs

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>>92043684
>she lasted for 4 years as an indie was successful

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>>92044085
What was her CCV? Were they redditor schizo Holofags that called her mommy and literally won't stop doing it after Fauna making it blatantly clear she wants to move away from that image?

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>Fauna in Hololive
>she should just quit I HATE HER
>Fauna quits Hololive
>why is she quitting I HATE HER
Why can't you be happy with anything you fucking weirdo? Are you gonna stalk her with your schizo babble to her indie career next too? What's wrong with you? Just take the win and be happy for once.

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>>92044567
it makes his oshi, the company, look bad

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>>92043253
Unironically she wasn't the one that did that. She didn't even dogwhistle.

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>>92044753
You are so fucking retarded it hurts. It's like you live in another universe.

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>>92044267
fuck off numberfag, oldest archives show she sat at 122K subscribers and her content regularly broke well past that in views. She the same size as fallenshadow and they pretty much shared an audience

move the goalposts up your ass. Keep gagging on corpo cock. Stay mad she wasn't a bootlicker like you

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>>92042940
Well, she seems like a smart woman so i'm sure she's considered the trade offs and deemed it better than staying and doing whatever she disagreed to. It's really not that big of a deal and if like some talked here that she has a degree to fall back on and job experience then it's not a big deal in the least. In any type of entertainment you can't really treat it as a permanent thing to begin with.

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>>92040417

>Life in Hololive is no better than being indie or small corpo other than the fact you get paid more for putting up with the same shit.

Objectively incorrect.

As an indie do you take dance lessons? Voice lessons? Record for a studio? Attend meetings? Have someone controlling what you can and can't do? The list goes on.

Bigger indies are an outlier, the vast majority of indies DO NOT deal with these things.

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Anyone else getting tired of holotrannies?

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>>92045622
rational and sensible points are not allowed on schizo threads, get in the bin

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>>92041466
>like kson

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>>92042940
Have you considered how awful it is to continue working for a Japanese company when you can't speak Japanese?

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>>92040525
>>92040644
>every post against Fauna is from one source
what mental illness is this

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>>92046205
3 years later we are still trying to figure that one out, yeah

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>>92042940
You act as if she doesn't have more friends outside holo than she does in holo.

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>>92040417
She's not your friend bro

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>>92040918
oh no a mid 4view how will she ever live as a mid 4view lol

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>>92041466
Your argument is so badly constructed I'm inclined to believe you're doing this in bad faith, but let's entertain you for a second.
Doki is special, true. She has a pretty low ccv/sub ratio but the dragoon core who went to hell and back with her isn't going anywhere. Her best content ccv-wise is the Doki x Mint collabs and when she plays a fotm fps. Her worst content is her random slop shilling streams.
Mint: if Fauna's content is nothing unique, neither is Mint's. They're more similar than you think. Mint has more variety with karaokes but sometimes she also plays random kusoge for 5+ hours while having melties on stream. Her best content is arguably her Doki x Mint collabs and the karaokes. She also has a strong core fanbase.
Fauna is a pure zatsu streamer. For her viewers it doesn't matter what game she's playing. Her content is very uniform. She doesn't collab often, and her fanbase is fickle when it comes to collab partner choice. If you say zatsu is nothing unique, then you need to somehow explain why it's Fauna's zatsu that's the most popular in HoloEN; or explain why there's no other zatsu streamers in HoloEN (which by itself isn't the smallest of sample sizes).
If you were to construct your argument properly, you'd have to point at these things:
1. When Selen and Pomu left, they took the best part of NijiEN's fanbase with them. Pomudachis were numerous, active and loyal to their oshi. Same with dragoons, but in a slightly more insular manner. It's not clear how loyal saplings truly are.
2. The ex-niji girls are incredibly stable. Content *will* be delivered, 5 days a week, no excuses, no bullshit. Fauna doesn't have as stellar of a track record. Her streams are shorter, which is a positive. 3+ hour long streams are actually pretty detrimental long term to both the chuuba and the viewer.
3. If she stays as insular as she was in HoloEN, she'll slowly bleed numbers, if only to natural attrition. To attract new blood, she needs to get herself out there and collab. Herein lies the danger: how does she choose collab partners so that she gets to gain new viewers without pissing off the old fanbase? Saplings are a holo fanbase after all, you must expect them to be fickle.

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Fauna was like the only one in EN actually steadily growing in popularity in the last two years, all by doing her solo stuff. Funny how you now see that as a weakness.

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>>92049556
Fauna wss growing as a solo streamer in a family and community-driven environment. Take away the concept of a 'gen' and 'branch', then suddenly she loses a lot of her appeal for corpo watchers. It's kind of like how you might not watch members like Luna, Roboco or Raden, but you still want them around and would be sad to hear them leave. They're part of the culture and community. They have their own memes and unique connections with the wider fanbase. Lemonleaf won't have any of that warmth.

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>>92051685
What makes you think that the woman who openly hates tourists and tries her best to avoid them wants tourist?

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kill yourself bvtm

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My rrat is that she had a woman moment over "it's not a phase" not being worked on by cover despite the promises and she quit.

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>>92051685
Please, Fauna was a solo streamer that rarely collabedl. She'll be fine.

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>>92051685
Ironically, the logic of your post works much better applied to Pomu than Fauna.
Promise is a broken gen, and Fauna only started to actively collab with Advent and Justice.
>she loses a lot of her appeal for corpo watchers
This part is correct. How many saplings with masks off we'll see?..

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Japanese work culture is naturally incompatible with Western culture in general. Not because they're any worse than the worst the West has to offer in the job market, but because they do everything wrong ON PURPOSE strictly so some employees and departments have an excuse to say that they're "working". Cover has managers that get paid to say "no" to the girls, they get paid to ruin projects on purpose and lose them money just so they have a justifiable reason to get paid the company because that's their job. They get paid to "manage" even if that means ruining everything on purpose. In Japan you stay in the office until 10PM even though you were done with actual work-related things and actual real work by the time the clock hit 6PM, the rest of the time you were fucking around on the computer pretending to work. It's a big daily LARP where nobody gets anything done and the people that do get things done are thrown under the bus by the old faggots in charge.

Now imagine this going on for years and years, never improving, never adjusting to the foreigners THAT YOU WENT OUT OF YOUR WAY TO HIRE BTW, and it will get to ya. And then the CEO is some faggot that always says "we're gonna make things better so people don't leave" and then nothing actually changes because in Japanese companies nothing ever changes even though they say things will change, it's just words they say for the sake of saying it to save face. Yagoo has been saying that line since Coco graduated btw, and nothing has changed and things have in fact gotten worse than when she was around. You think it wouldn't get to you, but after some time it would absolutely would. Year after year of Jap autism and fax machine shit will get to anyone that wants to streamline any work or do things in a much more convenient way. That's not the Japanese way, things MUST be done badly on purpose or else the harmony of the workplace will be disturbed.

>t. worked for a Jap company before, they're legit unironically retarded beyond your wildest imagination and this was me being nice about it

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>>92048686
I agree with quite a lot of that, but not everything. Mint is an idol schizo like Kiara. She's someone you want to root for. That's the core concept of an idol: supporting someone as they work hard to improve so they can make you proud and (You), too, get motivation from their success. It's a two-way thing. You climb together as one. Doki naturally has that as a gamer; her fans want her to win competitions. Mint and Doki always have a goal to achieve on the horizon. Fauna doesn't have that, at all. Like you said, it's just 'oh what game is Lemonleaf playing today which will effectively just be background noise so I can hear her yap for that's what I'm truly here for'. There's no sense of progress. She can only speak about so much. A lot of her current topics of discussion is about Hololive-related things and other members. Like I said earlier, Fauna is schizo about opsec and is more careful with her words when it comes to irl details compared to other girls. She can't be yapping about Hololive anymore so what topics is she going to bring to every stream?

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>>92052177
>Fauna only started to actively collab with Advent and Justice
*very recently

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>>92052215
Fauna is going into that as a streamer, you have bazillion people out there who made it as just streamers, she has a good grasp on streamer culture, more than any other prominent vtuber, that's her niche that DOES attract a certain type of fanbase, and makes her popular among streamers. Not to mention, (according to Kaela) she has some plans, and for now we have no idea what those plans are, which makes doomposting even funnier.

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>>92052620
Then you best prepare for I interactions with males, because CGDCT doesn't exist in streamer culture.

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>>92052620
That also aligns with an argument I made earlier >>92041466 where I said
>She has a lot of competition right from the start if all she does is play games and talk
If she's going to be female Northernlion, she's screwed. 95% of her current fanbase (especially those that recently subscribed which have pretty much all come from Hololive as everyone has been pushing Saplings to sub to lemonleaf for a lot didn't even know about it) are NOT that kind of fanbase. She needs to pull an entirely new audience and she doesn't have the drive or connections to do that unless she leeches male streamers for it's only male fleshies that actually succeed in that domain. She can succeed as a 1-2k CCV indie just fine if she stays as she is, focusing on a vtuber fanbase, but if she's going down the Northernlion route with a normalfag-repelling vtuber avatar (especially if she remains to be a loli) she's got no chance. Vtubing is disgusting and creepy to most people. Hags like Mio look 12 to normalfags.

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>>92040417
Most peoples' jobs don't involve moving half-way across the world to a country whose language they don't speak.

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>>92053038
She applied to a Japanese company which was already leaning hard into Japanese idol culture with Myth members that already lived or had lived in Japan and travelled to Japan to do idol things. She only has herself to blame.

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>>92052215
Interesting thoughts.
>There's no sense of progress
I don't think it's a prerequisite for (non-exponential) growth. Neither I think a growth-only mindset is anything particularly good.
>She can only speak about so much
Not really. There's not enough lifetimes to yap about all the stuff you can yap about. Fauna is an erudite with a penchant for collecting trivia and delving into them in a slightly autistic manner. If she as much as spends 2 hours a day browsing the internet for curiosities, she won't run out of topics to talk about. The Holo topics will be replaced by more random trivia or yapping about her new/new old friends. I don't watch NL, so I have to go for an example very much not related to Fauna. God forgive me, but Asmongold. Ever since that bald fuck switched to being a react/yap streamer. Everyone knows he's a grifter, but the appeal is in the intangibles. People like how his thoughts work, they like the delivery of his sophistry etc. etc.
People watch Fauna for the intangibles of her personality and her delivery, not the substance of her content. I think multi-purpose yapper is as good of a viable niche as fps brotuber or white girl idol.

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>>92053037
Nah, sorry, you just sound obsessed with the idea that Fauna must fail because you said so.

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>>92053037
>95% of her current fanbase (especially those that recently subscribed which have pretty much all come from Hololive as everyone has been pushing Saplings to sub to lemonleaf for a lot didn't even know about it) are NOT that kind of fanbase
??? You're just typing words without saying anything meaningful.

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>>92040417
Who cares about Fauna , We Saplings have a new Green Queen of RP ASMR , Airi Viridis

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>>92053636
Let me spell it out for you:

Before Saplings subscribed to the Lemonleaf channel, the subscribers she had came from LemonleafASMR. They liked ASMR and RP, things she has stopped doing and probably won't do again.

Lemonleaf now has a huge number of subs, all of which have come from Hololive. They want more Hololive Fauna, not LemonleafASMR content. Not Northernlion content. Hololive mommy Fauna green yapping is what they want.

95% (rough guess) of both fanbases have no overlap with Northernlion-style streams. They're difference audiences.

Fauna is screwed if that's her plan, especially with a vtuber avatar.

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>>92053037
Now, we're both essentially making numerical speculations on the composition of saplings as a fanbase. You're positing 95% "holophages", I think it's closer to 50%.
>1-2k CCV
Underselling it. I actually think 5k stable is the absolute theoretical ceiling for an EN indie on youtube: simply because there's not enough people watching vtubers overall. Holos get much bigger numbers because of the box effect and because a lot of people are Holo-only.
I also think Fauna can easily settle at that ceiling:
1. The divorce with Holo isn't quite cloudless, and my impression is a lot of saplings feel marginalized by the rest of the Holo fanbase.
2. There's actually no one in Holo who can jump in her niche. CC is different and Shiori is different.

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>>92040417
jp trips hort sorry, not vegan friendly enough

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>>92054003
>LemonleafASMR
She's not using that, retard. All her new content is on the Lemonleaf channel for a reason.

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>>92054263
Read what I said you retard.

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>>92054003
You are so fucking stupid I don't even know why I'm wasting my time here. You have no idea what people actually want. You have no idea what Fauna will actually do. You have weird ideas about "Hololive fanbase" who watched Fauna en masse over other girls. Hell, even going back to >>92052215 who do you think she is gonna hang out with the most? Likely Mint, since they already like each other. So she can easily get roped into idol related stuff on smaller scale, she likes it, and now it could be arranged in states. Also
>She can't be yapping about Hololive anymore so what topics is she going to bring to every stream?
Did you watch her at least once in your pathetic life? She can yap for 4 hours and not mention Hololive related stuff once, she always has her own topics, or something emerges from chat interaction.
You have no clue, you are just mad she is """betraying""" the dorito.

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>>92054683
>So she can easily get roped into idol related stuff on smaller scale, she likes it, and now it could be arranged in states
You're fucking delusional if you think any of that is true. She only spoke kindly about idol culture because of the corpo she's in. No fucking way will Fauna do dance lessons once she's out of Hololive. It's another Northernlion fanbase filter.

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>>92054683
>you don't kno-ACK
>proceeds to talk like he knows what Fauna will do and it isn't just another schizo fanfic
Do mintcucks really ?

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>>92040918
Why do you fags think all vtubers do it only for the money?

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>>92054962
>No fucking way will Fauna do dance lessons once she's out of Hololive.
Wanna bet?

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>>92054683
>who do you think she is gonna hang out with the most? Likely Mint
NTA, but. Before the FTR concert I'd be like I'm not 100% certain, but now I am. Doki and Mint are now not only one of the best connected indies on the scene, but they also showed everyone they can get shit done. It's actually huge.

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>>92040918
In some contexts this might be true but Fauna was one of the more successful indies pre-Holo

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>>92055091
>Fauna will orbit the whore that called the all out war while shitting on Fauna herself and her genmates in Council
The absolute state of beggars

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>>92055085
She hates idol shit kek. Probably appreciates it more now she's done it and will still watch the Hololive shows, but that's as far as it will go. Let me put it this way: if Lemonleaf by some miracle joins some kind of idol performance like Dooby and Doki did, it will be a one-off leechfest (on all sides) that will never happen again. If anything the only motivation she'll have to take part will be to make a statement to make it seem like 'SEE, IT WASN'T ME, IT WAS HOLOLIVE MANAGEMENT, SEE I LIKE IDOL STUFF LOOK! LOOK I'M DOING IT SEEEEE!'. Then, like I said, never again.

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>>92055330
Fauna raided Mint again like yesterday.

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>>92055392
>already leeching the indies
man she's panicking now KEK

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>>92054683
It's just Faunaschizo samefagging. Stop replying and he'll just samefag and keep bumping the thread from page 10 until tomorrow. I mean look at these retarded posts, should be obvious. >>92055392
>>92055446

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>>92055330
Of course you brought the receipts, right? Now show them.

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>>92055703
I guess he picked up the "leech" buzzword somewhere, seems to spam it.

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>>92055330
Pomu was shitting on Cover announcing "male vtuber auditions for Hololive English" (direct wording from the tweet itself)
Fulgur was the one who shit on Council.

[Anonymous No.]

>makes a lengthy post about how Fauna has no idol drive like Mint and that's why she will fail
>people point out she will just hang out with Mint
>starts shitting on Mint
kek
"It wasn't my post" next.

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>>92045354
>She the same size as fallenshadow and they pretty much shared an audience
Horseshit. FS has the goth loli yapper audience in the bag and I don't see them being the same as the mommyfags Fauna has garnered.

NTA but I think she'll have decent numbers, but won't be able to grow much more as an indie as initial interest will fade.

Also why are you fucking retards always deflecting by calling everyone who doesn't like your stupid whore a "corpo bootlicker"?
You have no clue in the slightest on what the specifics are and are just acting like simps taking her side no matter what, but you can't admit that so you just project that on to her critics instead.

She just didn't have what it takes to be an Idol, simple as. Cover has their problems but it's very clear that they're not big enough issues that would stop anyone who puts in the effort.

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>>92056763
>your stupid whore
You forgot the mask.

[Anonymous No.]

>>92056763
>NTA
>stupid whore
>an Idol
Dropping the ball hard. You're not even a bootlicker, you're just a merc shitter.

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>>92056831
What mask? Was I suppose to play nice to keep up some facade?
I never like her and glad she's leaving, so why am I supposed to follow the narrative that I''m only NOW pissed because she dared speak against the blue dorito?

>>92057004
>no retort
Thanks retard, I accept your concession.
She doesn't belong and neither do any of her simps. Now piss off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>92056358
>le story revisionism
KYS nijinigger beggar

[Anonymous No.]

>>92040417
>t. management dog

[Anonymous No.]

>>92057215
>I never like her and glad she's leaving

[Anonymous No.]

>>92040417
If your job required endless travels everything should be paid for, from business class tickets to hotel rooms.
>they have to pay to use the cover studio
Absolute state.

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>>92057272
>>92057215
>beggar
At this rate Mint has interacted with holo EN this year more than Gura has.

[Anonymous No.]

>>92040417
>It was never supposed to be endless fun you get paid millions for
Nah, it is more like taking home ~$100-250K.

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>>92057215
>Was I suppose
>I never like her and glad she's leaving
Years of learning English, and it just washes away the moment you're riled up, brown hands shaking over the keyboard.

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>>92057524
uh oh melty

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>>92057496
The reason why Cover can get away with it is because the talents are not employees but contractors.
https://youtu.be/bTW9mTPgHFA?t=11522
The Japanese labor laws are actually pretty pro-worker, but all of that doesn't apply to contractors.

[Anonymous No.]

I thought /vt/ liked Fauna?

[Anonymous No.]

>>92057741
>still no retort
Nice try, sapcuck, but you just can't muster up any defense besides pointing out spelling mistakes.
Hope you'll continue being a good paypig for her sake.

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>>92040417
How many jobs have you had in your lifetime? Would you take another if it were better?

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>>92058206
>muh spelling mistakes
>immediately has a nuclear melty
Anti ape on rampage, call pest control!

[Anonymous No.]

blaady westoid faunda benchod we never like her and glad she leavings

[Anonymous No.]

>>92056763
brain dead moron. Lemonleaf didn’t run the “mommy dommy” grift. She was a loli gfe ASMRist and regularly collabed with FS. Their content was the same and they were IRL friends before lemonleaf went corpo and FS had a bpd meltdown about it

the only reason you’re seething so hard is because she has the audacity to leave your number one favourite corpo and be honest. And that she pointed how much of a parasocial loser you are. How dare she go against the almighty Cover, who can do wrong. How dare you say we aren’t friends! You stupid whore!

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>>92057272
uhoh dramafaggot doesn't like the truth

[Anonymous No.]

>>92058841
>she has the audacity to leave your number one favourite corpo and be honest.
>and be honest
2 more weeks until you saplings find out you've been played since 2021. The real LL will shock you.

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>>92059804
It really won’t corpofag, I’ve know LL since 2019. Whereas you’ve been an angry little cuck since whenever fauna said “we aren’t friends”

And what exactly do you know about the ‘real LL’, you didn’t even know she was a lonely man loli schizo grifter until today

wash your disgusting brown feet