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Literally unironically just genderswapped Vinny Vinesauce

>> No.9157988

>>9157956
And that's why she's the best.

>> No.9158070

>>9157956
That's what I was thinking.
Explains why I instantly liked her so much.

>> No.9158132

>>9157956
Who's Vinny Vinesauce?
I will not do my reps for a shitpost thread

>> No.9158140

dude who even the fuck is that

>> No.9158172

>>9158132
>>9158140
google is your friend. use it.

>> No.9158206

>>9157956
Watched that dude when I was 15

>> No.9158427

>>9157956
Who

>> No.9158443

>>9157956
Who? Thats a really retarded name

>> No.9158465

>>9158427
>>9158443
How long have you been on the internet

>> No.9158479

>>9157956
Then who're the Jerma and Joel of Hololive?

>> No.9158531

>>9158479
Gura is probably the closest to Jerma, if only superficially. She even imitated that Jerma's Dollhouse stream with the Sims

>> No.9158542

>>9158479
>Jerma
For the time being I'd say that title belongs to Hakos or Gura.

>> No.9158553

>>9158479
the jerma of hololive will be jerma once he debuts in holostars EN

>> No.9158587

>>9157956
Vsauce?

>> No.9158634

>>9157956
i wish there was a genderswapped clint stevens vtuber

>> No.9158648

>>9158634
Clint is already a twink, though.

>> No.9158661

>>9158479
>Jerma
Of VTubers, that's be Nyanners for obvious reasons. Of Hololive, Ame's the closest.

>> No.9158660

>>9158634
clint is a pretty generic gamer as far as personalities go, im sure it wouldnt be hard to find one

>> No.9158672

This did not warrant a thread you fucking shithead.

>> No.9158671

>>9157956
nah, vinny's too based
she is great though and has a COOM voice

>> No.9158692

>>9158479
no one in holo matchs jerma, the closest was coco but not in the same way.
also kiara is the joel of hololive, fecalfunny for a reason.

>> No.9158704

>>9158479
Miko is the Joel of Hololive.

>> No.9158705

>>9158672
ok m*ri

>> No.9158766

>>9158672
too bad this is a kronii thread now

>> No.9158816

>>9158704
Somehow this... makes sense..

>> No.9158934
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9158934

>>9158479
Who is the Mike and Joel of Hololive?

>> No.9159014

Who is the Rev of Hololive then?

>> No.9159028

>>9158934
Gypsy vtubeing career when?

>> No.9159043

>>9158934
Joel - Ina
Mike - Aqua

>> No.9159074

>>9157956
>Vinny Vinesauce
I've never listened to these people. Give a link.

>> No.9159118

>>9159014
>the biggest literal who of Hololive
Anya?

>> No.9159134
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>>9159043
Aqua's that good?

>> No.9159135

>>9159043
>Joel - Ina
I could sort of rationalize Miko but Ina? They're polar opposites, are you joking?

>> No.9159141

>>9158132
Some retarded zoomer, don't worry about it
>>9157956
Kill yourself dumbass

>> No.9159181

>>9159118
rev is the 3rd most popular vinesauce boi, so more its likely potato is anya.

>> No.9159203

>>9159141
anon... vinnys 36... he talks about bladerunner and startrek... hes no zoomer...

>> No.9159235

>>9157956
>Vinny Vinesauce

Who the fuck is that btw

I dont even care but does OP think anyone knows that random?

>> No.9159236

>>9157956
Can I sleep with her just like Vinny did with his fans?

>> No.9159237

>>9159181
Third most popular doesn't mean popular, anon. Fucking no one talks about Rev.

>> No.9159253

>>9159203
>and startrek
Please stop Star Trek tangents Vinny... please...

>> No.9159260

>>9159237
people talk about potato even less

>> No.9159267

>>9159236
>>>/tumblr/

>> No.9159276

Vinny and Gura collab when

>> No.9159277

>>9159135
I was replying to the MST3K poster. Both are sleepy, creative, and will make bad jokes for fun. Mike = Aqua because dumb, best I could do.

>> No.9159280

>>9159260
... literally who?
Dammit, you're right.

>> No.9159294

>>9158479
Not Holo but is Selen the Joel of NijiEN?

>> No.9159332

>>9158531
>Jerma one of the most creative streamers out there
>Likens Gura to him
Come on anon...

>> No.9159370

>>9159253
honestly hes better about it then redlettermedia's mike is, at least startrek isnt his only reference point like it is for mike.
>>9159294
nah selen doesnt interrupt the stream to do a bit that may or may not pay off.

>> No.9159433

>>9158704
Miko? Miko? Did you download boobs again?

>> No.9159657

>>9158934
Come to think of it, is there a market for a vtuber who watches terrible public domain movies with their fans and guest vtubers? Kinda like a contemporary Elvira?

I know Pomu's a RedLetterMedia fan but I don't think we'll get anything like a Best of The Worst-type stream from her.

>> No.9159793

>>9159294
nah, Selen is the TimTheTatman of Vtubers.

>> No.9159827

>>9159332
>one of the
The. You don't have to weasel words this, no one has ever topped nor is likely to ever top the Dollhouse stream.

>> No.9159892

What the fuck, does /vt/ unironically have this many zoomers who never visited /v/? I expected the overlap to be like 95%

>> No.9159974

>>9157956

I watched vinny about 3 or 4 years. I can see why you would say that but it did not really cross my mind so far. Kronii needs to do more weird noises and play more nintendo to match.

>> No.9159981

>>9159827
anon being one of the best usually means the best by default if theres no one else whose on the same level, one of the best is just a formality for people to not make a definitive statement

>> No.9160040

>>9159974
I think it's more the commentary style of talking less, quality over quantity. It's what made me instantly like her and I reckon it's also the reason why fags call her boring, which I straight up could not understand at first.

>> No.9160044

>>9157956
You mean she builds her entire growth on fake reactions and dead memes?

>> No.9160064

>>9157956
All I ever wanted.

>> No.9160099

>>9157956
Are Kiara the Limes of hololive then?

>> No.9160113

gayest thread on /vt/. congrats

>> No.9160118

>>9160044
>reactions
>memes
This relates to Vinny how exactly..?

>> No.9160139

>>9159141
>36y/o zoomer

>> No.9160322

so who is the DemoD of vtubing?

>> No.9160361

>>9160322
now THAT is a literal who

>> No.9160377

>>9160118
the OG old vinny and his entire mario and zelda “corruptions” that made him were fake and so were his reactions

>> No.9160399

>>9160377
too bad getting weird with it sundays are gone those were fun streams

>> No.9160401

>>9160377
meds, now

>> No.9160498

>>9160401
The corruption app they used lets you replace text and thats how all the old “cool” corruptions happened, not some random chance but handmade and then just fake reactions

>> No.9160605

>>9160498
anon... the old corruptor was just a basic image corruption app that they throw games into and was super bare bones.
the new corruptors can do the text replacement but the old ones were legit just random, so much so those old corruption streams were mostly trouble shooting hoping the corruptor wouldnt corrupt the game in a way it wouldnt even function.

>> No.9160779

>>9157956
Slightly off-topic but does anyone know what device Vinny uses for 3DS gameplay capture?

>> No.9160977

>>9160779
he got his 3ds modded to have a capture card built in, removing its portability in the process

>> No.9161171

>>9160977
Ahh that's too bad, I had hoped there was some easy solution

>> No.9164107

>>9158479
Not Hololive but Noraneko is basically Jerma

>> No.9164178

>>9164107
Jerma if he had no sense of self-preservation

>> No.9164182

>>9158479
i thought korone was similar to joel

>> No.9164259

>>9164178
Jerma if he had big honking tits

>> No.9164351

when can we get the NLSS of vtubers
I just want my DS invasions back

>> No.9164368

>>9164182
Hardcore Friday colab when?

>> No.9164393

>>9157956
Who is the Anya of Hololive then?

>> No.9164464

>>9164351
I'm surprised there aren't more vtubers streaming Isaac. You'd think it would be much more popular.

>> No.9164632

>>9157956
Hololive are literally the first streamers I ever watched.

Please explain to someone that spent his youth actually playing vidya instead of watching other people do it for him

>> No.9164780

>>9164632
You do realize you can do both right? Or do zoomers actually think playing games while listening to someone else play games is too hard.

>> No.9165020
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>>9158479
>Jerma
Gura
>Joel
Either Calli or Miko, but if we exclusively remove the hololive limitation, we could possibly include Roberu and Aruran into the equation.

>> No.9165048

>>9159141
>Vinny is a zoomer
this is the most retarded post I saw today, congratulations anon

>> No.9165124

>>9158172
I refuse to learn any more about e-celebs.
If you want to continue this retarded thread you're going to have to spoon feed.

>> No.9165138

>>9164393
Anya

>> No.9165145

>>9164780
And people say zoomers are the ones with ADHD

>> No.9165151

>>9165020
BRAZILIAN PIZZA LET'S GOOOOOO

>> No.9165163

>>9165124
>says anon while posting on an e-celeb board

>> No.9165173
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9165173

>>9165124
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez4YUPkQwhI
Educate yourself for 30 minutes with this or fuck off to reddit, your choice kid.

>> No.9165176

>>9158172
Fuck you retard. You want to compare chuubas to random people you fucking explain yourself like a fucking adult or kill yourself.

>> No.9165348

>>9165173
Okay I watched like 5 minutes and have no idea why anyone would make the comparison.

>> No.9165362

>>9157956
FINNER

>> No.9165742

>>9158479
Of Hololive? I can think of a few Niji's that slightly fit the mold, but Jerma's just not easily compared. In Hololive, Ame has playing with the streaming medium, Pekora has being an aware eclown for her chat and Haachama does weird shit and creates characters. But none of them really feel like Jerma.

>> No.9165751

>>9160322
usada pekora

>> No.9166111

>>9164632
Vinny is an old /v/ streamer who is known for his depressed nature and for corrupting/breaking games

>> No.9166341

there are people on this board who don't know vinesauce... not sure if underage or normies.

>> No.9166432

>>9166341
Both

>> No.9166454

>>9158479
>Jerma
Outside pick but Nene? They're both unpredictable, fucking amazing at running bits and extremely hardworking behind the scenes. Jerma is just on another level though so it's really hard to compare anyone to him.
>Joel
Korone gives me vague Joel vibes. Mostly because they both speak funny and are pretty good at making random kusoge entertaining.

>> No.9166481

But does she want to ARRRRRR PEEE?

>> No.9166502

>>9166341
As someone else here has said, I think there may be much less overlap between /v/ and /vt/ than one might think. So naturally they wouldn't know about Vinny and his history with 4chan

>> No.9166553

>>9159141
>Vinny is a zoomer

>> No.9166586

>>9158661
AUDIO AUDIO JUNGLE AU-DI-O AUDIO JUNGLE AU-DI-O AUDIO JUNGLE AU-DI-O JUUUUN-GLEEEEEEEE

>> No.9167026

>>9166502
but even tumblr women know vinny and joel

>> No.9167102

>>9166341
Assuming people have to know every popular streamer ever on a virtual youtuber board just because he's a streamer is stupid. inb4 you call me buzzwords, I know who vinny is but never watched him because I don't care about him and I am on this board for VIRTUAL YOUTUBERS not normal streamers and you're the normie for calling people who don't know him normies.

>> No.9167143

>>9167102
okay underage normie

>> No.9167255

>>9167102
>>9167143
>normie
Fucking normalfags all of you.

>> No.9167315

>>9166481
SPEEN

>> No.9167707

>>9157956
no, Vinny, she's nothing like you and would never marry you. Neck yourself

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>>9158531
Why are cumbuds like this?

>> No.9167828

>>9159141
>zoomer
KEK maybe you're the dumbass and OP isn't.

>> No.9167834

>>9167796
The world may never know.

>> No.9167911

very bizarre to me how over the last ~8 years everyone has accepted and become fans of talking head streamers. i liked RLM's star wars reviews but thought half in the bag wasn't very interesting because i don't watch that many new movies and then suddenly it turns out everyone on 4chan has been watching them religiously and knows every weird quirk of the strange bald one's mannerisms. who the fuck is vinny vinesauce? who are you people?

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>>9159892
And I expected vtubers to just be /a/ and /jp/ and their fans only knowing about people like >>9160322

>> No.9168196

>>9168137
>video game streams
>not attracting /v/

>> No.9168263

>>9168196
I don't know, somehow I thought the anime shit would stop them more, I clearly dont know shit about /v/, only the the rrats /a/ told me about them.

>> No.9168342

>>9168263
/v/ has a lot of japanese game threads. Did you really expect that to not be the case?

>> No.9168361

>>9159892
I stopped visiting /v/ like 8 years ago after it went to shit after GG.

>> No.9168516

>>9157956

I unironically think vt would have better quality if we only had posters fom v here.
The constsnt whining from the weaboos and nkcels is a detriment o the board quality.

You make 1 shitpost in a thread and faggots be crying they are being raided. What he fuck.

>> No.9168653

>>9168516
If you like /v/ so much then go back there. And stay there. I browse neither /v/ nor /jp/ but would much prefer if we had more /jp/ posters than the cancer that comes from /v/. YOU are a detriment to the board quality.

>> No.9168741

>>9159141
Go back to redit

>> No.9168825

>>9157956
She doesn't talk about crusty clown cock and star trek anywhere remotely near enough to be genderswapped pizza pasta funny man

>> No.9169065
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>Utterly unveiled e-celeb thread
Well since we're doing this anyway, who are the Super Best Friends of vtubers?

>> No.9169191

>>9169065
Coco, Aloe and Hitomi Chris

>> No.9169740

>>9169191
Would've made more sense to say HoloCN, since they all had to graduate at once and went their separate ways.

>> No.9170157

>>9166454
Korone needs to play Desert Bus.

>> No.9170270

>>9157956
>Literally unironically just genderswapped Vinny Vinesauce
Hana Macchia did it before kronii

>> No.9170366

>>9157956
You’re literally unironically retarded op

>> No.9170529
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9170529

Amazing thread, I love watching Kiara, the Sweet_Anita of vtubers

>> No.9171242

>>9159141
Posts like this are why I just can't take this place seriously.

>> No.9171777

Pretty accurate, she says GWAK in the same manner as Vinny's AH COCK when something bad happens in a game

>> No.9172561

>>9157988
Based

>> No.9174383

Why are v-tubers considered separate from e-celebs? What's the difference?

>> No.9174526

>>9174383
the same difference from e-girls, there is none

>> No.9175787

>>9166481
kek

>> No.9175980

Who's the Nikado Avocado of Hololive then?

>> No.9175983
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9175983

>>9157956
>he genderbendt binyot

>> No.9176076
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9176076

>>9164464
ENTER

>> No.9176196

>>9166502
>Vinny and his history with 4chan
I've heard this before and please yamete. I don't want all my favorite streamers to secretly have a deep connection with this hellhole.

>> No.9176333

>>9170270
Hana straight up referenced Vinny multiple times. She's definitely the biggest Vinnyfag but I still think Kronii is closer in style.

>> No.9177466

have jerma and nyanners collabed yet? that shit would be great

>> No.9177566

>>9169065
We need to start by finding the Pat of vtubers; someone obnoxious and always wrong.

>> No.9177650

>>9174383
A vtuber is a fictional character

>> No.9177732

>>9176196
Bro he literally started out on /v/, that used to be his home base, although I'm sure he rarely if ever browses it anymore (understandably)

>> No.9177834

>>9165173
>not knowing some eceleb is reddit behavior
fucking hell

>> No.9179742

>>9177466
They should.

>> No.9181222

>>9176196
He shilled his streams on /v/ in the early 2010s.

>> No.9181411

Has vinny ever stated his opinion in regards to Vtubers? I assume he certainly doesn't like Hololive

>> No.9181441

i want to tittyfuck her voice

>> No.9181451

>>9181411
Probably barely knows what they are
He at least knows about snuffy because she raided him a few times

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>>9169065

>> No.9181657

>>9181411
I believe he mentioned once that he sees them as being no different from regular streamers.

>> No.9181839

>>9157956

No, that's Hana Macchia, who literally did both Vinesauce memes and cited Vinesauce as an inspiration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dv0wLFgj42c

>> No.9181984

>>9181411
I've heard him mention the topic a few times but I don't remember what he says, I don't think he really has an opinion on it. He has used facerigs before though, like the Meat model a year or so ago or more recently Gnorts the Alien during the 2021 charity stream. Think he even made a joke about being a chuuba during that.

>> No.9182035

>>9181839
see >>9176333

>> No.9182093

>>9167255
This anon gets it. Good there's still a few actual oldfags left.

>> No.9182205

>>9165048
Yeah, that's not a feat one can accomplish easily in this place.

>> No.9182259

>>9157956
If that's at all true I'll have to give her a chance.

>> No.9182543

>>9181839

desu Hana is actually closer to Joel with the constant funni accent bits

>> No.9182687

>>9159236
Since this is just an off-topic /yt/ thread, all that shitfest did was make me lose all respect for MandaloreGaming. He went from being utterly /here/ to dogpiling a fabricated metoo claim because a "trusted friend" told him to. Then he groveled for forgiveness.
Two years of hanging out with a bunch of literal furfags sure had an effect on his personality.

>> No.9182703

>>9169065
Woolie is Ollie, because he turns most things he's in to shit.
Matthew is Calli, because wigger who can be pretty good when they contain themselves.
Liam is Ina (especially early Ina). They're fine but they don't do much.
I don't know about Patthew Bovine.

>> No.9182724

Kronii worlds exploration stream when?

>> No.9182753

>>9182703
Ame is pat

>> No.9182763

>>9159141
Nigga he's nearly 40 and he's been on the internet a lot longer than you have.

>> No.9182866

When is Jerma joining hololive

>> No.9182929

>>9175980
NO ONE.

>> No.9183151

>>9182543
would she know what an omega symbol is?

>> No.9183190

>>9176196
Holy reddit.

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9183458

Who's the DSP of vtubing?

>> No.9183553

>>9159657
>is there a market for a vtuber who
Yes.

>> No.9183583

>>9183458
Kizuna Ai, but DSP never got out of the ahegao era.
Also instead of crippling him he has kept bumblefucking his way to some success.

>> No.9183697

>>9183458
Noel or Ame

>> No.9183979

>>9158661
Please do not insult Jerma by comparing him to that unfunny cunt. Nyanners is the Tom Green of V-Tubers

>> No.9184428

>>9183979
Nyanners humped a dead moose?

>> No.9184787

>>9183583
>bumblefucking his way to some success
More like kept crawling around like a smacked cockroach to not perish.

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>>9182703
>>9181522
Peko and Miko are no longer friends

>> No.9195118

>>9183979
Did you know Nyanners watches Freddy Got Fingered annually? Hope she gets the help she needs

>> No.9195625

>>9164182
In that she thinks the most random, mundane shit is fucking hilarious, yes

>> No.9195721

So she's gonna get cancelled by mandalore in a series of unsubstantiated claims?

>> No.9195778

>>9158704
Explain

>> No.9195949

>>9183979
No, Nyanners is by far the most Jerma-like streamer in terms of creativitiy and showmanship. She always goes out of her way to set up bits for her stream to keep everyone on their toes. Ame does that a bit too which is why I mentioned her, but less often. Feel free to shove your opinion up your ass.

>> No.9196140

>>9166341
Heard of? Yes. Watched? No, I was always a Joel guy, I have no idea what Vinny streams are like.

>> No.9196180

>>9196140
>Joel over Vinny
How underage?

>> No.9196391

>>9157956
Corruption stream when

>> No.9196535

>>9196391
Permissions means it can't happen.
Could you settle for a corruption doujin?

>> No.9196557

>>9196180
I'm in my 30s, it's more that I grew up in a really similar situation to him so we have a lot of the same tastes and sense of humors.

>> No.9196665

>>9181411
>He missed the VinesauceXSubaru fanart
Jokes aside for him it's just another group of streamers

>> No.9196840

>>9169065
Wait is this an Ava's Demon reference?

>> No.9197044

>>9196665
NTA but I've seen VinnyXMarisa art, never seen one for Subaru. Do you have it?

>> No.9200907

>>9183979
Nyanners takes are lot of inspiration from Jerma and he actually recognized her for it

>> No.9205100

>>9197044
There's a Subaduck in Vine Worlds

>> No.9205290

>>9164464
tenma phasecon does

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>>9157956
>Vinny has a vtuber equivalent
so, when are we having genderswapped Forsen?

>> No.9205527

>>9205413
A chuuba that watches bestiality and gay wrestling? I dig.

>> No.9205653

>>9205527
Don't forget the chat being more interesting than the streamer

>> No.9205803

Who's the Jabroni Mike of Vtubers?

Trick question, the answer is Jabroni Mike

>> No.9205886

>>9157956
Maybe I should start watching her then.

>> No.9205981

>>9158479
If Ame could she'd definitely do shit like the carnival or archeology streams.

>> No.9206109

>>9159433
>tfw no vtuber windows xp destruction stream

>> No.9206803

>>9169065
calling it ame same is pat and matt with their eventual break up is gonna tear their friend's duo of liam and woolie(takamori)

SCREEN CAP THIS

>> No.9206981

>>9206803
>liam and woolie(takamori)
Which one leaves early and becomes an utter failure as an indie?
Will they also have anxiety attacks when the others get big deals?

>> No.9207266

Who is the Tyler1 of vtubers

>> No.9207979

>>9159235
>>9158443
>>9158427
>>9158132
>>9164632
Vinny "Vinesauce" Pizzapasta is one of the original streamers who sort of helped make streaming a thing. Not even intentionally, since he's just a mellow guy who does the haha funnies on occasion. A good guy who has played a lot of bad games. Kronii is a fan apparently, with the "speeeeeeen' in her debut giving her away.

>> No.9208043

>>9200907
Like what?

>> No.9208169

>>9207979
Kronii and Hana collab onegai. Bond over Vinesauce.

>> No.9209611

>>9208169
would be fun. I'm shocked more of the internet savvy vtubers havent talked about vinesauce streamers since that was one of the first larger streaming companies. A precursor to hololive even

>> No.9210375

>>9157956
>No jokes about cum and dicks
>No strange sounds
Not really.

>> No.9211621

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjs0iArwnM8

>> No.9211763

>>9208043
NTA but just read >>9195949

>> No.9211817

>>9209611
>companies
roru

>> No.9212300

>>9210375
>no strange sounds

>> No.9212493

>>9157956
>Literally unironically just genderswapped Vinny Vinesauce
Who?

>> No.9212867

Who is the SsethTzeentach of Vtubers?

>> No.9212978

>>9212867
Ame.

>> No.9213139

>>9207266
Selen

>> No.9213183

>>9212493
You can just hide threads that don't interest you.

>> No.9213238

Who's the Jerma and STAR_ duo of vtubers?

>> No.9213347

>>9157956
>Literally unironically just pekora's mother

as usual holoen-fags never get anything right

>> No.9215883 [DELETED] 

>>9206981
To be fair Liam was a failure even when he was in the group, he was always the vanilla pick who added nothing but also did no harm.
It's the other three who were big together but are literal who s alone.
Woolie was good when he was with Pat who forced him to be a bit more high brow. Alone he's just some sad fat negro.
Pat was good when he was with Pat who forced him to be a bit more high brow. Alone he's just some sad fat wigger.
Pat was good when he had anyone to bounce off of. Alone he's just some sad, fat, short and bitter ginger.

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