/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Mumei's laugh is cute! CUTE!
https://streamable.com/cao0js

[Anonymous No.]

Cute

[Anonymous No.]

Mumeis laugh sure is cute. Don't know who that second girl is though

[Anonymous No.]

Mumei is confirmed female

[Anonymous No.]

h-ha..ha...!
W-what a cute laugh.. and absolutely NOTHING else going on in this thread...! ha... not thinking about "that" no sir not at all!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9089292
Who is the unrelated second girl who sounds completely different?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9089292
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS

[Anonymous No.]

oh my god who cares

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine joining a company that spent most of 2020 branding itself as idol and GFE friendly only after not taking that hint and applying to it anyway despite being a cum guzzling whore
Tarnishing her entire branch and company with her dirty ass brush

[Anonymous No.]

>>9089587
Delusional

[Anonymous No.]

>>9089621
past life is not dox retard and it's not even her

[Anonymous No.]

>>9089831
>it's not even her
Lol lol rumao rumao

[Anonymous No.]

>>9089292
You're going to make a streamable for every stream aren't you?

[Anonymous No.]

Not her

[Anonymous No.]

She forgor
https://streamable.com/8g0f8h

[Anonymous No.]

Who gives a fuck? Are you really that mad she has a boyfriend?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9090404
yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>9089292
fucking cuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>9089292
Deafchama...

[Anonymous No.]

>>9089720
>>9090012
still coping ESL?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9089621
>newfag doesnt know the magic word

[Anonymous No.]

OH NO NO NO

[Anonymous No.]

>>9090404
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9090451
True, anybody watching Mumei is a cuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>9090404
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

Are you people fucking deaf? Can you really not diferentiate between how 2 dumb white wom*n sound kike? Holy shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9090404
If anything I actually like shachi now because I didn't know who she was previously

[Anonymous No.]

>>9091051
>how 2 dumb white wom*n sound kike
Go ahead and compare it to Mori laugh, see how alike they sound kek, it's time to stop coping

[Anonymous No.]

>>9090404
yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>The year is 2023
>Doxxfags still struggle to convince the final 5% of mumei fans that she is actually HER
>They finally get a recording of Mumei admitting it in full
>Finally all fans are convinced the rrat is true
>Mumei still has 5mil subs and is happier than ever in Hololive with the support of her horde of fans who still don't really give a shit either way
doxxfags stay losing

[Anonymous No.]

>>9091213
Won't matter. It is not her until the end of time. That person confessing is a deep state planted succubus sound-alike.

[Anonymous No.]

>they got the wrong girl again
Funniest shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>9091213
If they don't care why go to such extreme lengths to deny that it's her? There's at least 3 separate memes they've made to deny the """"rrat"""". Clearly it bothers them a lot for them to go through that much effort to deny it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9091051
They are. These ESL think they sound like Gura too.

[Anonymous No.]

Suffering defeat after defeat, that schizo's mind was reaching his limit. Breaking down. But he couldn't die yet. The schizo had a job that must be done: to continue his retarded rrat.

[Anonymous No.]

Man even her clips put me to sleep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9091121
Compare to gura instead.
>>9091412
>Why are people okay when I call a salmon a fish but say I am wrong when I call a whale a fish

[Anonymous No.]

>>9091412
'cause it makes you seethe

[Anonymous No.]

>>9091424
>at NijiEN3... this time for sure... I can hunt that orca down...
It's like Moby Dick

[Anonymous No.]

>>9091486
>All white women sound alike
>Okay well maybe they don't, but these two girls kind of sound alike, so...
Desperate kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>9091598
>lose argument
>make up strawman
cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>9091779
You claimed all white women sound alike and then you moved the goalposts, take the L buddy kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>9091856
Holy fuck you're retarded, ESL-kun

[Anonymous No.]

>>9091899
Keep coping kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>9090404
yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>9091954
It's true, no one can really stop you from continuing to cope and seethe that no one believes your rrat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9092072
>No u
And the cope continues kek

[Anonymous No.]

The ones denying gotta be from a discord dedicated to whiteknighting her at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9092187
>whiteknighting
Well we all know which discord you are from.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9089292
I'm convinced. Thank you anon. Fuck Cover for hiring her and Fauna.

[Anonymous No.]

Do you niggers get tired of having the same conversation every day?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9089292
I used to be convinced but after listening to this I'm starting to doubt it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9090404
>>9090404
yes

[Anonymous No.]

So much samefagging ITT. Whoore Discord on red alert.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9092365
>Whoore
Is that what Poka is going by these days?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9092263
If you think it's different, you're literally deaf.
But I know you don't think it's different. I know you want to love Mumei. I want to love Mumei too, but all of this is undeniable at this point. Just give it up dude. I know this fucking sucks, but you're not going to be able to convince anyone and I'm not even sure why you'd want to. We all know this is Cover's fault. Or at least EN management's fault for not giving a shit about wanting to manage idols.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9090404
I don't care if she's in a relationship or not, but she's boring and talentless with or without it.
Antis need to change their point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9092579
You sound like a spurned women.
I discard your opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9092579
If you think it's the same, you're literally deaf.
But I know you don't think it's the same. You just want to pretend everyone is this girl because she pissed you off somehow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9090404
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9091213
>The year is 2023
>They finally get a recording of Mumei admitting it in full
>There are still people denying it's HER

[Anonymous No.]

>>9092579
This. At this point they just want to deny it for the sake of keeping their idol pure. It's sad that they want a parasocial relationship so badly but if it helps them sleep at night then I wish them the best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9092927
holy cope

[Anonymous No.]

Take meds anon, you will find your orca but not today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9092926
>The year is 2023
>Mumei accidentally doxes herself because she's retarded
>Looks completely different from HER
>There are anons still making threads claiming she just gained/lost some weight and dyed her hair and that its still the same person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9089292
ESL can't tell between Popu and Senz either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9090404
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>9091412
>If they don't care why go to such extreme lengths to deny that it's her?
Personally I just do it to rile you up kek
It also has the tiny benefit of seeding doubt amongst anyone who actually cares enough to research this shit, so they'll never really be sure if they got the right person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9092666
No. I don't. I'm being honest when I say I want to like her. It's tiring hating Matsuri, Ollie, and Fauna and avoiding all their collabs. I didn't want to add Mumei to that list, but after listening to OP you'd have to be either an idiot or dishonest to say that it's not HER.

Idols can't have boyfriends or be whores. Period. That's the entire point. Mumei doesn't belong in Hololive and that's the only reason I want her gone. I don't hate Mumei. I think she's stupid for applying to an idol agency due to her circumstances, but the ultimate blame rests on Cover.

I am still furious they haven't punished Matsuri in any way. What does hiring Mumei and Fauna say about the other girls? Are all the talents taking advantage of their audience like these three? How can you honestly trust any of them at this point, knowing this? It brings everything into question and I can't forgive Cover for allowing that to happen to something that was, for a time, so wonderful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9093220
Mucho Texto

[Anonymous No.]

>>9093220
i didn't read this lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>9093033
>she just gained/lost some weight and dyed her hair and that its still the same person.
Well duh, obviously

[Anonymous No.]

>>9092926
>>9093033
>The year is 2023
>I finally left /vt/
>Enjoying my happy life with my wife Nanashi Mumei who is famous and beloved on the internet
>Logon for old times sake
>See this shitty thread repeated again
>"Heh, glad I left"
>Proceed to fuck Mumei and have a 3rd kid

[Anonymous No.]

>>9093220
I read this and wish I didn't.
>Idols can't have boyfriends
yeah they can, opinion discarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>9093220
>Idols can't have boyfriends or be whores.
Go back to Equestria, unicorn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9093339
go back, you don't belong here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9093220
ogey schizo, you're really convincing people that you didn't come into this with an agenda, lmao

[Anonymous No.]

Go on OP convince me. Your so close to making me believe you're not real and just a copypasta come to life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9093220
You'll get hate but you're right. I'm starting to think that HoloEN as a whole was a mistake because the English speaking audience consists of so many more white knights, simps and cucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9089705
do you reel beleb

[Anonymous No.]

>>9093220
Lol, bought the idol gimmick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9093392
>"go back"
>no counterpoint
kek, thanks for the (You)

[Anonymous No.]

ah yes the daily thinly veiled thread of "why Mumei is S*achi"

[Anonymous No.]

>>9093525
>He thinks he's not a white knight, simp or cuck despite watching chuuba

[Anonymous No.]

>>9089292
I agree but I think you need to revise this video considering you accidentally added some unrelated whotuber at the end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9090404
yes

[Anonymous No.]

You all are clearly upset. I know it sucks. Remember though: the goslings, the gachikoi, the unicorns, whatever you want to call them. They are the one's that pay for it all. They are the ones that buy merch, send akasupas, and post on social media. You think non-idol fans are going to buy concert tickets, voice packs, dakimakura, and oppai mousepads? If cover hires women like this, the idol fans will simply move on. And then there will be nothing left.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9090449
>>9090950
>>9090990
>>9091164
>>9091976
>>9092350
>>9092836
>>9093106
>>9093752
(You)

[Anonymous No.]

HEHEHE
I'm just laughing here listening to a kalimba stream while you make a fool of yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>9093525
you will never be japanese

[Anonymous No.]

Gura = It's Her
Mumei = It's not Her

[Anonymous No.]

>>9093819
Enjoy it while it lasts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9093775
>You all are clearly upset.
Which side are you referring to here cuz I legit can't tell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9090404
Normies will say yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>9093864
>I legit can't tell
you might be retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>9093864
>If cover hires women like this, the idol fans will simply move on. And then there will be nothing left.

???

[Anonymous No.]

>>9093864
>>9093962
There's both owlschizos and doxxfags who believe this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9093881
>Normies

[Anonymous No.]

What happened OP? too busy preaching at global?

[Anonymous No.]

How come you guys dont make these threads for ame anymore?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9093775
you do realize idolfags are the minority right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9089292
I'm sorry Shachi broke your heart OP, but you're a grown ass man and you will get over it eventually.
I recommend picking up a hobby, that usually helps ease unhealth obsessions and be sure to take your meds.
Until then you can just call every new chuuba Shachi and even Lex Luther the bird, but just remember it will get better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094204
>>9094158
>>9094002
>>9093999
>>9093962
>>9093930
>>9093881
>>9093864
>>9093849
>>9093845
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>>9093632
>>9093605
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>>9089470
>>9089292
Samefag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094322
you got me

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094322
you got me

[Anonymous No.]

Meidos letting this shit stay up for over an hour

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094322
You can't do that you're crashing the (you)conomy

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094322
you got me

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094204
Because the shit with ame was nothing but rumors perpetually spread by schizos on this website. People are mad and rightfully so because there's undeniable proof that the owl was in a relationship.

[Anonymous No.]

So now that HoloID gen 3 is just around the corner, I can't wait to see who's gonna be the new HER.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094322
you got me

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094322
you got me

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094358
TuT

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094358
Based and cunnypilled

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094377
>was
Who cares. Every stable human being should have dated or had sex by at least the time their mid twenties.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094377
Sorry teacuck but this is the same cope the owlcucks are going through right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094478
Just.... I'm not even going to address this retardation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9093220
Buddy it's OK. It's ok to be a cuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9093220
You are correct, Cover says they are "idols" - they better fucking commit to it. Literally nobody is safe basically looking at the collective failures in that front, and it'd be truly daft to SC a fucking dime to a single one I'd say. Unless Cover is planning on just giving up on SC income because it'll have a Holo gacha's money coming in, if they want to explicitly cater to idol/gfe they ought to commit.

Also consider, this all happened after Aloe. With EN1 they were already in training when that went down yet turned out better than EN2 on purity or at least infinitely better in diggable dirt. There is no excuse at all for them to not focus on this kind of thing better. All that le wholesome shit, they can just go choke on it. All it takes is one ornery superchatter to alert the world mumei has nudes floating around and that the 'cinnamon roll' they love is a completely fake contrived thing, cynically designed to exploit them and COUNTING on them being naive rubes for it to work. Cover fucked up hard here, they deserve all the egg on their face for this. It is so easy to avoid this shit, even fucking Nijisanji got 6 through with nothing remotely at bad as fauna or mumei in the mix.

People latched on hard to worshipping Cover and Yagoo as a flawless juggernaut and a lot of redditors and underage kids buy into it, but the reality is between Aloe and now EN2 for their supposedly great scouting, also how they handled the whole Coco thing, you would be an idiot to think Cover really merits any such credit these days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094501
reps

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094358
holy shit this drawing sucks

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094358
His cock is literally getting sucked in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094547
>nudes floating around
Did you retards really fall for this one too? lmfao

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094547
You're actually retarded if you think Aloe graduated because she had a boyfriend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9089292
Those two sound kinda similar, ya reckon they got the same voice actor or something? Both equally cute tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094547
I can tell your mentally unstable because you're writing a fucking essay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9093220
>I'm being honest when I say I want to like her
This. She was my favorite up until the debut and the rrats started spreading. I literally had a stomach ache for hours after learning the truth. It was very sad to see unfold.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094547
THIS ANON REALLY FELL FOR THE RRATS HAHA RETARD

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094377
It's not the -was- part, it's that there is 0 evidence to suggest it is not still ongoing.

Another thing that irks me is Mumei is attempting to put off this shit from blowing up, trying to hide things / make things unclear. That is manipulative, conniving, afraid her SC purse will diminish a ton if people are 100% sure they know who she is. She really literally might think all her fans are gross and pathetic for liking the baby like persona she puts on AND want you to pay her handsomely for it. Does that not bother you people? It does, I know it does, that is why there is such intense denial. All she has to do is stream from a laptop and suddenly she can mask herself pretty easily, etc. Most people have one from school or whatever if they already had a desktop, it isn't hard. Sorry to sow doubt but I mean ultimately in the end it is better to be aware of the truth and accept that sometimes reality sucks, than nervously live an illusion. I did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094358
Whats wrong with this niggas dick? A birth defect or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094358
The cunny is too strong, his dick is being absorbed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094635
It sure as hell didn't help. You weren't here for here apology stream were you? Half the chat was posting dildo sashimi and shit.

[Anonymous No.]

Do people legitimately give a shit whether it's HER or not? I thought it was all shitposting

[Anonymous No.]

So much mental illness and incel behavior in one thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094763
You're going full schizo here, bro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094358
Vagina gurata.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094877
Unironically go back to twitter

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094322
you got me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094763
It's sad how many people here will deny this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094322
Just arrived in this thread but you got me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9089292
As long as its not an anituber or Holostars, I'm fine with dudes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094691
>I literally had a stomach ache for hours after learning the truth.
This is legitimate mental illness. I really hope you get actual help. I don't know if you can afford therapy or if you're in some third world shit hole that doesn't even have therapy, but you genuinely need to get help, this is not an okay reaction to have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094691
Gonna post some random self-harm pictures you found online again?

[Anonymous No.]

shit thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094877
>It's fine to have holos with open boyfriends who openly shitted on their chat for parasocial/gfe in the past as long as I eat this entire bottle of copium twice a day

We need a new word, copium is not even enough. Delusium it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9093819
Cuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094928
Are you saying >>9094691 is a well-adjusted individual?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094322
fuck you, you got me

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094763
>he is unironically accusing this retard of lex luthoring
Are you for real? Take a step back and think about this for a minute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094358
Made for chumchad cock

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094358
Hey, it's deleted. Can this thread go now?

[Anonymous No.]

>Porn deleted
>All the cuck shit stays up
Why tho

[Anonymous No.]

ITT: doxxniggers coping that their attempt at another Amageddon failed spectacularly

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095074
>>9095092
>>9095111
>mods delete the post
>don't delete the attempted dox in the OP
Guess that confirms that it's not HER then. Otherwise there's no way the mods would let a doxpost stay up against their own rules, right?
Looks like the doxfags played themselves. Mods confirmed not HER.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095026
His brain isnt where its supposed to be but his heart's in the right place. He's based in my book

[Anonymous No.]

Thank God my oshi has an ugly roommate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094322
ogey

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095127
AMEgeddon

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094763
Oh okay so now you can read her mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094763
>Vtubers being manipulative
That's the name of the game man. Might as well boycott all hololive while you're at it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095162
We have reached levels of cope that shouldn't even be possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095162
>he's coping

[Anonymous No.]

It is quite funny that Mumei is copping the brunt of the hate simply because there was some small level of doubt in the claim. For Fauna it was known instantly that she had a bf yet even worse she intentionally baits the ASMR GFE. Mumei doesnt really try for the GFE from what I have seen so her crime is less severe in the long run.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094547
Just posting to let you know you're not alone, anon. EN was a mistake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095346
Faunafags don't deny it. Owlcucks do. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094322
>See a (You) in my tabs
>Get mildly excited
>Its not an actual reply
>sadness.jpg

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095405
here's an actual reply, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095059
>switching to a laptop is lex luthoring

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095384
It's almost like it's not true. Hmm...

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095346
Since her yandere asmr in her debut stream she hasn't really done any GFE streams unless you consider all asmr GFE. We need to wait until superchats to see if she really is GFE though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095405
You gotta know the ways of the bait if you want actual replies. Falseflag as a redditor

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095470
>a laptop with blue switches
meds

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094547
You are a retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095472
And kids deny eating ice cream as it's smeared across their mouths. Owlcucks are at that level of denial.

[Anonymous No.]

She used to be honest. I wonder what happened? (cropped out usernames)

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095346
>crime

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095355
Ollie is more of a mistake than EN

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095059
>Streaming from a laptop is some grand genius lex luthor concept

It is not. It only shows she is trying hide herself and a ton of people have fallen for it. She would not try to hide herself if there was nothing that yab about it, but there is and she knows it.

I will in fact offer a counter-rrat free of charge if you think I am only hell-bent on one conclusion (that it's her), because I am not, I simply am looking at all evidence neutrally. If she did have a BF but DID break up, maybe HE had the switch. HE had the good PC. And he took that shit back with him which is why mumei is stuck on a 'tato laptop (probably only meant to do schoolwork on etc). That actually would make sense.

I really do not give a shit if she -had- a BF, I care if she still has one because that just sticks a knife right into the brain of any fucking sane male, it is basic biology to not just walk into that kind of thing. Worst of all from every instance I have known or heard of a BF commenting it's that they are smug assholes about it to boot going 'yeah I'm fucking your waifu haha keep paying my rent' etc. I am not giving a fucking penny to anything even close to that situation and neither should you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095346
However much doubt there was, it's really just a point of pride now. It's the same goddamn song and dance every night because it's not even about who she is or is not anymore. It's about niggers who cannot move past this one damn argument.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095546
I'm sure but what does some literally who indie have to do with hololive...?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095546
Yeah. Good thing she graduated

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095162
Why do you think mods have advanced knowledge /vt/ as a whole doesn't have? Laughing my ass off at this cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095346
Fauna actually provides top tier content that manages to make you forget about the rrat. She's the sweetest thing in the world and even if all the talk about manipulation etc. still holds true it doesn't matter because she's just that much of a joy to listen to. She's like a carnivorous plant that lures you in with pure sweetness just to consume you when you take the bait. And we know she is but still fall for it because it's just so worth it.

[Anonymous No.]

Meidos are useless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095546
>deleted even tho the name is censored

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095237
>>9095300
>>9095716
>doxfags unable to comprehend the concept of sarcasm
my sides

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095405
You'll get a lot of (You)s some day, anon, believe in (You)rself. I believe in (You).

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095800
>I was just pretending to be retard
Owlniggers are so sad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095781
Go on owlfags, try your petty rituals

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095800
>i was being sarcastic guys i wasnt coping i swear!
You cant damage control even if your life depended on it

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095833
>>9095858
umm sweety, that wasn't my post. I was merely commenting on your autism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095933
I'm sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095229
Most GFE holos that say they love their viewers do love their viewers as a conceptual amalgamation
It's like loving a DID boyfriend that rapidly cycles through thousands of personalities

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095983
Why would I lie on the internet...?

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>>9095788
The rules say no real life, so it kinda fits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095476
>ASMR is GFE
all GFE ASMR is GFE
If it makes you think of sex and women, it's GFE

[Anonymous No.]

Proofs next thread, like and subscribe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9095767
But she's a skank?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096079
>censored name
>no irl faces are shown
>no real life
?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096058
Well, you certainly have no self control if you're wasting your time responding to bait. Just let it be anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096142
1. fuck off
2. kill yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096162
1. Seethe
2. Cope
3. Dilate

[Anonymous No.]

This thread is going to hit bump limit and owlfags are powerless to stop it. Hilarious.

[Anonymous No.]

I think Mumei has to graduate. Not because she has a boyfriend, or because she is a boring fuck streamer, but because there is gonna be some RETARD schizo that came from here and will actually doxx her and her BF and make public her info just because the retard couldn't land into her, making her actually lose her mind and everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096263
I guess you'll have to wait for the next one to post the proof then

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096263
That's okay, I won't remember it anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

Hmh hmh hmh hmh

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096354
Yeah yeah, something something lex luthor printer proof next thread. Thanks for giving this thread another bump.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096263
get ready for the owlcuck jannys. samething that brought about teacuck jannys

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096425
learn english you retard

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>>9096341
Think of it like street justice. Cover was crooked enough to hire her anyway so someone is just going to fix that mistake for them free of charge. Like Aloe. People (idiot rubes) still ride aloe pity even though she was a two-face who shittalked Holo for years before joining, etc.

I think what it is is Cover has absolutely pathetic ability to background check/deep dive on prospects and just takes their word for things on questions during their interview process.

[Anonymous No.]

>all the mumei bait threads always pop out and become active in the same time, and every doxxposter has the same SEA posting style

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096489
It's literally 2-3 deranged SEA posters spamming this crap from their discord server every night.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096341
And hopefully sooner than later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096489
Is this news to you...? It's been known for years that SEA is a massive reason for this sites downward spiral. They really just need to rangeban the whole region already.

[Anonymous No.]

>Doxxfag finally finds out adult women has sex because they're adults
>Wants everyone to share his pain thinking they care as much as he does

Everyone knows these Chuuba's at least has a semblance of a sex life, anon. They just don't obsess with it as much as you do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096638
>people voice their reasonable complaints
>just use the seanigger strawman
Funny how it's always seaniggers this, seaniggers that. Oh well, whatever helps you cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096519
They got hit hard. There's no one scarier than a closet cuck trying to relive his pain over and over again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094547
The only ones being cynically exploited and deceived are the naive fools who assume idols don't have boyfriends just because they don't say they do. Stop living in a fantasy where someone who doesn't even know you exist is a potential romantic partner. Just enjoy them as entertainers rather than obsessing over some "purity" most of them don't have anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

>>9096728
How is complaining about a chuuba actress having a relationship a reasonable complaint, schizo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096772
Wow that's a lot of (You)s. Can I have one, please?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096489
If you want me to post my BWC you just have to ask anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096728
t. seething seanig

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096728
You've outed yourself as a fucking loser, you massive faggot. Hope you manage to suck your own dick some day, poindexter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096519
Hunting that orca is tough work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096737
My oshi knows I exist though lmao, there goes your grand theory

[Anonymous No.]

Can I at least have one thread with my Autistic Owl vtuber without people going full schizo about weather or not shes some past vtuber that has or had a boyfriend? Its been a week at this point and both sides are being retarded now.

[Anonymous No.]

Whenever I see someone blame seaniggers it's a dead giveaway they're amerimutts. And amerimutt opinions don't matter. I won't even give you mutts (You)s. Piss off back to twitter or whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096824
You've outed yourself as a fucking loser, you massive faggot. Hope you manage to suck your own dick some day, poindexter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096810
Rushia?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096820
You're going to keep getting these threads until NijiEN3.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096820
Get people to come to an agreement and the fighting will end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9092604
Nigga, you can't just type that while posting Roberu's GF

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096824
Why are you just resorting to "No u" boogeyman tactics while calling them out, you absolute fuckwit?

[Anonymous No.]

>agreement
>on 4chan
what a fucking loser!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096820
I am sorry, Owlbro. I wonder why Mumei attracts the worst crowd imaginable. We even had a discussion about BFs in /gaia/ yesterday and it was mostly civil, extremely so compared to what Mumei's threads get. People didn't even insult each other, imagine that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096820
Think of it as a new gen hazing, Ame got hers now it looks like mumei will go through the ringer for gen 2

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096868
Let's just all agree it doesn't matter and the only reason people shit on what other's enjoy is they have an underlying problem with themselves

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096916
It's really not that bad outside of 4chan and twitter. Really, just don't browse either and chances are you won't encounter any autistic take on the matter because the community actively filters those retards out

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096788
mfw doxniggers are homosexual deviants whom get off on posting their dicks to anonymous imageboards

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096954
>only reason people shit on what other's enjoy is they have an underlying problem with themselves
I shit on what I myself enjoy, what does that make me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9097008
>he doesn't get off on posting his dick to anonymous imageboards
weirdo

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>>9096868
I agree that none of this matters and no matter what /vt/ ends up thinking, Mumei will still be in Hololive and will make friends with the other girls, who by the way know more about her personal life than we do on account of actually knowing her, and still care about her regardless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9097020
Normal. We often shit on things we care about, because we care about them and want to see them improve.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096954
That is really a good idea. Owlbros should convince owlfags that it really doesn't matter.

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>>9096675
You are ignoring the part where it is unclear if she is in an active relationship still. To pretend that doesn't matter is to out yourself as incredibly ignorant of Holo itself. It matters for everything, at least money wise that is.

I think it is excusable to watch ones on known relationships if you give them no money at all. Trouble is Cover's entire design of their chuubas is to get you to want to give them money. That becomes much harder to do mentally when you just cannot see the character on the screen and are aware of the fundamentals of what is really going on. I don't shame cover for what they do and they ought to fight to keep their model alive instead of openly sabotage it bringing in multiple unclear cases in one gen. I shake them for their incompetence in their failure at proper vetting.

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>>9097020
Based

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>>9097020
Probably not the same type of shitting, anon.

Unless you genuinely hate what you enjoy or enjoy the fact that you're hating on it then that's just a red flag

[Anonymous No.]

>>9097008
>homosexual deviants
so /hlgg/

[Anonymous No.]

>>9090404
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

Tranny jannies have this thread on autosage. No fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096998
It's pretty bad in certain Youtube clips before the uploader scrubs them(most big ones do, but soon after an upload you can often see it)
Reddit is pretty much the only place. Discord I imagine depends on the server, but I don't use Discord so I don't know for sure

Honestly this one really has gone beyond the usual rrats, I don't think there's any practical benefit in denying that specifically

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096675
>everyone
go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>9090404
yes

>>9093220
>>9094547
>>9093775
based idol chads

>>9091051
>>9091213
>>9095162
>>9096489
>>9096820
Cringe whore loving cucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096852
Lamy

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>>9097087
I'm pretty sure lots of Holos are in active relationships. I'm not stupid enough to think they aren't and don't have sexual needs. Everyone does.

It's just that they made it so it's deeply tucked away and people don't bother thinking about it.
They shouldn't either.

I agree with Mumei and Cover possibly having messed up and triggered schizos and purityfags to attack the talent herself along with her fans, but it's not enough as to boot said talent out because of something normal people knows is normal just to cater to a couple autists in the community.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9097141
Until the next thread bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094322
You got me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9097186
Right, and we'll be getting proofs next thread for sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9097186
>reddit
>discord
>clipniggers
Why do you give a shit about any of those things?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9097211
You were never gonna fuck Mumei either way, anon. Sorry to break that to you.

[Anonymous No.]

Out of sight out of mind, you stupid niggers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096916
I think it's because when a few of the Fauna dudes engaged, the people actually upsst about her filtered thwir conversations towarss those people, and when that conversation got going, there was nobody to engage the shitposters. The attention for them dried up, so the shitposters left, leaving just the people talking. Since it became the focal conversation of the thread, more casual posters joined in in mostly good faith

There was one dude who was telling everybody talking about it to kill themselves over and over, the rare(well, maybe not too rare) anti-idolfag schizo, but he was ignored too

[Anonymous No.]

>>9097186
Haven't encountered clips and god forbid I join a discord server full of schizos and purityfags

[Anonymous No.]

>>9097242
>I'm pretty sure lots of Holos are in active relationships. I'm not stupid enough to think they aren't
Why are you retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>9094547
Diabolically based

[Anonymous No.]

>>9097300
WE'LL MEET AGAIN, OWLKEKS

[Anonymous No.]

>>9097141
Go back, faggot

[Anonymous No.]

It was a fun ride, but this is getting boring. Its the same arguments over and over, from the same doxxniggers and owlcucks.
Have fun niggers and remember to take your meds, both of you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9097271
>twitter
>4chan
>reddit
>youtube
>discord
Anon do you really need me to spell it out for you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9097340
Elaborate on why you think I'm retarded, anon.
I don't want to assume you genuinely believe it's normal for adults to not have relationships at that age.

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>>9096868
>If Mumei was a convicted felon in a court of law, she'd walk with the jury split.

There's honestly a solid argument for either sides, so why not just agree to disagree here. Let the owlbros hope in peace, and let the rrats claim it to be an act. As long as there's a shadow of a doubt, Mumei should walk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9097312
Anon, I was one of the people who started that conversation and believe me or not I am not a shitposter. I am just a simple Fauna enjoyer who acknowledges that she made a mistake by not deleting this information about herself from her old account. There is no reason to deny that other than actual, legit coping. I'm sure the BF talk will eventually disappear but the stigma remains forever. I don't often visit Mumei threads so don't know if people talking about the dox there are mainly shitposters or not but calling people incels or schizos or whatever other buzzwords just because of the reasonable complaint that both chuubas and Cover should pay more attention to scrubbing their old info is just as bad if not worse than actual shitposting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9097394
Anon look up the relationship status stats rn

[Anonymous No.]

>>9097449
I'd seriously believe the rrats if there was a solid argument for it and not just "they sound the same" which is circumstantial at best. Everything else can be explained, actually goes in contrary with their evidence, or just fact-twisting like claiming shachi liked owls when she simply posted it as one of the many animals she has already taken videos of. And half of the replies I get are "cope" "just admit it" over and over again, which I will probably get.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9097496
No anon, Inwasn't called you a shitposter. I'm saying that by engaging in an actual conversation, you deprived the unironic shitposters of attention, which made them leave, because the real posters became focused on the earnest conversation

Don't wanna touch on the Fauna stuff here because thread will be dead soon but I agree

[Anonymous No.]

>>9096868
>>9097449

[Anonymous No.]

>>9097631
I think the fact is that a lot of us are afraid of getting burned and know how much it hurts when this kinda shit gets found out for the gachikois

At the end of the day I know what it's like to be lonely so I can't help but prevent the damage that might happen if 8t does get proven true

IMO the voices sound similar enough to me to make me pause. But I know how mics can be. The art style is the biggest one IMO, they seem fairly similar to me and that's much harder to attribute to coincidence or something else

We lacked an impartial drawfag to confirm or deny when it was still being discussed tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>9097449
This isn't a court of law anon. This is edgy twitter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9097644
Ah, guess I misunderstood, sorry. Must be the tiredness from sleeping only 3 hours to catch an unarchived kalimba stream at early morning.

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>>9097631
Let's face it, we are never getting legitimate evidence that proves Mumei is HER without a shadow of doubt, and that goes for every other chuuba as well, so people will just keep believing what they believe. There is no convincing anyone, there is only shitflinging.

[Anonymous No.]

>thread on auto sage
Janny mad

[Anonymous No.]

>>9097735
It's going to take months to prove something 100% correct, but until then we'll keep getting these threads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9097874
go back, retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>9097874
What i'd like to know is why he didn't just fucking delete it? Maybe trying to contain it? But then why set it to autosage....?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9097955
where, I'm always here?
you should stick to reddit though desu senpai

[Anonymous No.]

>>9097967
Why contain it?s'cool

[Anonymous No.]

>>9097735
So far she hasn't really drawn much that similar to HER. The peacock drawing stream didn't really give much to work with, it's something you'd probably see in a drawing class. I'm hoping her Passpartout stream will be a little more insightful.
t. Studying drawfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>9097993
you clearly aren't if you have this much trouble with getting your posts deleted

[Anonymous No.]

The arguments over this ambiguity, annoyingly, occupy a loophole in this board's rules. Shit shachi said/did is vtuber content and basically that mostly overrides the IRL rule in theory. Otherwise mods could ban you for repeating what a chuuba said in a stream even if she only said something totally innocuous like what she had for lunch.

So people assuming a mega cleanup like for amegeddon will happen? It seems, don't count on it. People an still easily trip themselves over going into doxshit shachi never mentioned but the notion itself of questioning / comparing two vtuber entities - Cover fucked themselves over exactly, perfectly so for this to go all wrong with these questions and cases in EN2 just staining the board.

Not satisfactory? Well they better fucking find sharkmeido then because his word is what could budge it. The rule is there to begin with because of him, if mods were to go around it it HAS to be through his call. Unfortunately that guy is, unlike cover talents, typical mod opsec in being a ghost. If cover had any backchannels here now would be a damn good time to exercise them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9097967
So that both sides could duke it out while it is still alive. Nuking it does not make the problem magically disappear. In the eyes of one party, it's a hollow victory. In the other, it gives credence to their point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9098073
So moral of the story is "good fucking god cover is 10 kinds of stupid hiring ethots / ignorant bitches who openly said they had BFs as vtubers."

Especially after EN1 was actually pretty damn clean in this regard, making us all hold up that standard to them for a year now, they go pull this shit. Their being so clean was a damn good reason why Myth is so successful to begin with, you can tell people "no they're not typical ethots at all you get the wrong idea" - not so anymore.

Also they still did this after Aloe .. I mean come the fuck on, that proved background roommate shit is more critical than ever in factoring hires. It truly boggles the goddamn mind.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that Fauna's anti-thread got deleted after a few minutes
Owlcucks on suicide watch

[Anonymous No.]

>>9098492
>Mods left it up as a diss in specific

Guess they also don't like the coy act mumei/cover is playing. If anything seeing how the reaction to fauna turned out people like just knowing so they can move on with their lives instead of the denial about it / cover up from mumei herself keeping it going as a conflict.

Personally I would in theory say "get mad at cover for hiring them, the girls just existing is not a problem it's where they are now doing what they do and thinking the way they do that is." However my rrat is mumei left up "that" tweet explicitly as a middle finger to anyone who would look. She knows what she's doing and that is why she is desperate to hide it because she is being a complete stereotype ethot unworthy of that position in Holo and knows it won't look good if more people piece together how she really feels about it all.

Even in the drawing stream, she swapped to go draw what when Ina was looking? A unicorn. She probably thinks we are literally all unicorns with ridiculous standards when no she just does not fucking understand how male biology works in that we do not like being actively cucked and dudes are not going to be her sugar daddy just to go fuck someone. Not like the paypigs are getting fucked either but they feel good supporting her and only her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9098710
meds

[Anonymous No.]

>>9098710
>mumei left up "that" tweet explicitly as a middle finger to anyone who would look.
>Even in the drawing stream, she swapped to go draw what when Ina was looking? A unicorn. She probably thinks we are literally all unicorns

[Anonymous No.]

>>9098879
You know, as time goes on, if it becomes impossible to deny it is HER that will literally make all the worst Lex Luthor shit actually pretty much reality. Because there would be little other explanation why she would be trying to change things around other than to try to deceive everyone. If we become super sure it isn't her Luthors will still be funny anyway so I suggest keep making em.

Also as to this thread, actually there is a get out of jail card for mumei and even yes, fauna, that probably will work once but not twice - "leak" that they are single currently. On a roommate or just accidentally go there in a collab. Just lie if they have to. It'd save face for Cover's image, be a permanent plausible deniability rrat poison, and ward off people saying in the future EN2 was just the ethot bitch gen and the beginning of Holo's decline because they did try to save face. It's the idol way.

[Anonymous No.]

It’s pretty entertaining seeing the doxfags post these 5000-word essays about how she really is Lex Luthor rather than entertaining the idea that it actually might not be HER for a nanosecond.
If they’re right then it’s obvious why Cover hired her, she’s 5000IQ and the best actor in the industry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9099107
Even Owlfags are getting played actually. Both doxxfags and owlfags are getting played by Mumei into a unstoppable force vs immovable object situation. Whether it's her or not, I have to commend Mumei for the masterful play.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9099046
Wait wasn't it proven already, that Shachi broke up with her bf?
That's what I'm not getting about these schizo threads, even if it is HER, if she's single anyway why would either side care?

At least the Lex Luthering is somewhat entertaining so its not a complete waste of time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9098348
If Mumei isn't her then there was nothing Cover could have done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9099344
>Plot twist: owlfags and doxxniggs were the same people. They were all schizos the whole time!
>Plot hurricane: Everyone on this thread is Mumei on multiple IPs. She played everyone, even herself

[Anonymous No.]

>>9099344
For comparison, Ame's situation got squared away by global actually finding her ex and interviewing him live on stream (he was a vtuber himself) where he said he was single. Later through exhaustive efforts and the timing of old discord posts put together a complete image was made detailing a timeline and being pretty adamant that he/ame really were over and had been for a while. As time went on (and Ame moved for one thing) it became only more certain.

Compare all that, to a tweet with some hearts in it. That is all the evidence for shachi's situation. It just is not enough. Fauna there is even less evidence, in fact nothing last I heard.

I literally can ghost write this for mumei myself. She can kill all the rrats with one big ricochet stone. She can be like "oh yeah I'm on a laptop..So I used to have access to a better computer but because my situation changed I no longer can use that one" etc dancing around the implication that the beef PC was the Bf's and that all went to shit so she is on her own with the potato laptop. Same for the switch, which we know shachi had so would be a bald faced lie if she is mumei. Like that actually sounds really believable and makes her seem like less of a liar for nefarious reasons but just that her situation then vs now is why things changed a lot. You're welcome Mumei. We will just see how this shit moves forward.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9099589
+For the keyboard just say it was plugged into the laptop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9099411
The doxfags predicate all of their analysis on the assumption that it’s really HER and she’s just masterfully playing everyone. It doesn’t matter how dumb and convoluted the explanation is, all info must be made to fit the rrat. Just look at all the giant essay posts in this thread that could be trivially explained away by it simply not being HER.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9099589
>>9099634
Holy fucking shit you win gold for mental gymnastics

[Anonymous No.]

>>9099827
Or if I am right the gold metal for rest slaying. I really do not see how people can be so so sure it isn't her just listening to the OP. To say it is "unresolved" is putting it fucking mildly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9099827
Told you Mumei is Lex Luthor.

[Anonymous No.]

If it does turn out to be HER, I can imagine her popularity growing even more, cause that would mean she's incredibly intelligent and dedicated. I wonder if owlfags would even be mad at that point.

[Anonymous No.]

>thread saged so this drags on for hours
I think I see what's going on here.

Sharkmeido fucking must be a girl who is too into the gossip to nuke the thread. Sharkmeido must love rratposting if she partakes in it herself, and being in her power she can be the snooty know it all being the key gossip girl of her cafeteria she's created (/vt/).

I just wonder, is .. is sharkmeido cute? I am imagining like an evil Pomu given the /jp/ background.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9099857
>just admit you're this random ass girl and the rrats stop
No, she just has to ignore the handful of schizos from here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9099911
I'd be mad because, at least so far, she isn't showing much of that talent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9099958
Well it should be real easy for her to just slay the rrats but it is always give and take so far, some new things where it's like "oh that is a pretty good clue, hopium restored thank god" or "..Uh shit that sounds really similar.. uhhh guys what do we think?'

[Anonymous No.]

>>9099959
You don’t get it anon, she’s a criminal mastermind and genius actor but has simply chosen to apply those skills to riling up a handful of schizos on /vt/ instead of making her streams better. This is a perfectly reasonable explanation and I am very intelligent

[Anonymous No.]

>>9099958
If she really isn't HER then there really isn't much she can do and should just wait it out, especially since it doesn't seem to hurt her numbers. If however she is HER she is risking that people will find out some day and in this case what anon proposed sounds like a pretty good idea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9100011
The point is, why should she care about this? As far as I can tell she's not HER so what she's doing right now makes sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9099930
Cute girls don't need to shit on other girls to feel validated, they get it naturally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9099930
What are you so afraid of owlfag? That some anon read these exchanges and formulate his own opinion on the matter?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9093220
the only correct post about the topic on the entire board, although Matsuri can't really be punished as there is neither conformation on what it really was, nor did it happen within the bounds of hololive. She should however be blamed for her blatant lying and her terrible way of dealing with the situation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9089292
Saw Africat debut back in October 2020, then fell in the indie rabbithole, never went back since then, indies feel just so much better once you give them a chance, when I tried hololive again it felt distant, forced and sanitized, I just could not get invested.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9100826
This is only correct if you take every rrat at face value without question and assume all the chuubas are manipulative liars
If you want to do that fine, you do you, but maybe you should look for a new form of entertainment