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ccv + sc
>https://piyo.chats.ninja/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://overseas.live-ranking.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/total-ranking/youtube
>https://www.dousetu.com/daily_ranking/
>http://v-ana.com/
>https://playboard.co/en/

Hololive
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://twitter.com/holo_data
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://mipacd.github.io/chat-stats/excl-chat.html

Nijisanji
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings

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August superchats by branch

HoloJP
>1. Uruha Rushia - $125,814
>2. Yukihana Lamy - $109,094
>3. Momosuzu Nene - $71,064
>4. Minato Aqua - $64,224
>5. Shiranui Flare - $63,116
>6. Amane Kanata - $58,792
>7. Houshou Marine - $54,608
>8. Usada Pekora - $54,366
>9. Sakura Miko - $49,726
>10. Shirogane Noel - $49,693
>11. Murasaki Shion - $43,040
>12. Akai Haato - $41,239
>13. Tokoyami Towa - $40,190
>14. Shishiro Botan - $37,307
>15. Inugami Korone - $36,902
>16. Ookami Mio - $36,317
>17. Tsunomaki Watame - $31,032
>18. Oozora Subaru - $30,049
>19. Omaru Polka - $29,759
>20. Nekomata Okayu - $29,279
>21. Shirakami Fubuki - $26,756
>22. Hoshimachi Suisei - $21,693
>23. Himemori Luna - $17,954
>24. Natsuiro Matsuri - $17,209
>25. Aki Rosenthal - $14,595
>26. Nakiri Ayame - $11,146
>27. Tokino Sora - $7,634
>28. Roboco - $5,259
>29. Yuzuki Choco - $3,625
>30. Yozora Mel - $3,530
>31. AZKi - $844

HoloEN
>1. Mori Calliope - $49,289
>2. Takanashi Kiara - $43,319
>3. Gawr Gura - $36,854
>4. IRyS - $34,192
>5. Watson Amelia - $21,933
>6. Ninomae Ina'nis - $19,984

HoloID
>1. Kureiji Ollie - $10,039
>2. Pavolia Reine - $7,046
>3. Anya Melfissa - $5,139
>4. Moona Hoshinova - $4,257
>5. Airani Iofifteen - $3,785
>6. Ayunda Risu - $1,585

HoloSTARS
>1. Arurandeisu - $12,843
>2. Yukoku Roberu - $10,061
>3. Astel Leda - $9,150
>4. Kageyama Shien - $6,385
>5. Kanade Izuru - $6,359
>6. Aragami Oga - $5,714
>7. Hanasaki Miyabi - $5,004
>8. Kishido Temma - $4,305
>9. Rikka - $3,261

KSON
>Kson - $113,215

[Anonymous No.]

>>9055287
Last thread was raided by KFP antis, please do better and do not engage eggs

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Yesterday's superchat

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>>9055324
rushia too strong..

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1M In 10 minutes.

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>>9055374
5k left looks like it'll be rounded to 11.5 hours

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I was reminded that there's a good event tomorrow, Botan outfit reveal? Okay damn, was surprised Kuzuha didn't get 3k today to 1M.

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Yesterday Top 20

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>>9055401
>>9055402
Is the 2nd place deserved or YT is just being an ass? Personally, it doesn't have the repetitive charm which is very common for this short cover.

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>>9055460
Most subscribed to Gwelu instead

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>>9055565
The difference is negligible, even being released at a different hour, or in a different week day may have caused the hour difference

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>>9055374
Imagine Lamy and Rushia double-teaming your wallet.

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>Current piyo daily Top 20
Pekora is doing a members-only today and, yet, it seems the whole field decided to bring their A game.
Kuzuha is almost getting pushed out of the top 5 of the day, but of course he can always start an APEX stream at midnight slot and get his usual numbers and back into the Top 3

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>>9054997 Cover could make a music promoting program, not INNK because that's clearly a failure. The holos that sign up for the program get money for music advertisement only. I guess they don't have the money for all of that tough, maybe a deal with Sony Music like the one NIjisanji has or some other big label could help them. Some holos have things in mind that are bigger than hololive itself. How involved is Sony Music with Nijisanji livers music? It paid off for the livers? How much has Sony Music invested?

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Is Korone gonna end up beating Pekora in subs again?

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>>9055720
King...
You're really nothing without APEX...

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>REFLECT (Gawr Gura) - 10 hours (29m)
>KING (Gura and Mori) - 11 hours (35m)
I predicted it would get good numbers but not break records and i guess i was right but this is way closer than i expected.

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>>9055800
No

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>>9055287
Who is the fastest growing Vtuber?
Does anyone stand a chance to surpass Gura?

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>>9055797
>music promoting program
bloom

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>>9055324
Nijisanji
>1. Lauren Iroas - $106,741
>2. Leos Vincent - $88,994
>3. Furen E Lustario - $75,835
>4. Kenmochi Toya - $58,826
>5. Kuzuha - $51,599
>6. Fuwa Minato - $45,602
>7. Axia Krone - $42,263
>8. Kanae - $40,686
>9. Kaida Haru - $39,875
>10. Oliver Evans - $37,247
>11. Yuuki Chihiro - $36,274
>12. Kagami Hayato - $31,222
>13. Lain Paterson - $31,192
>14. Ibrahim - $25,756
>15. Saegusa Akina - $24,703
>16. Selen Tatsuki - $19,253
>17. Hoshikawa Sara - $18,192
>18. Joe Rikiichi - $17,931
>19. Amamiya Kokoro - $15,237
>20. Rosemi Lovelock - $15,026
>21. Shirayuki Tomoe - $14,634
>22. Ratna Petit - $14,621
>23. Ex Albio - $14,419
>24. Pomu Rainpuff - $13,969
>25. Suzuki Masaru - $13,881
>26. Shiina Yuika - $13,851
>27. Finana Ryugu - $13,181
>28. Honma Himawari - $12,470
>29. Higuchi Kaede - $12,334
>30. Dola - $12,163
>31. Elira Pendora - $11,415
>32. Sakura Ritsuki - $11,270
>33. Levi Elipha - $11,228
>34. Nagao Kei - $11,029
>35. Sakuyui - $11,003
>36. Takamiya Rion - $10,610
>37. Machita Chima - $9,683
>38. Akabane Youko - $9,376
>39. Petra Gurin - $9,118
>40. Belmond Banderas - $9,100
>41. Kitakoji Hisui - $9,081
>42. Suo Sango - $8,879
>43. Tsukino Mito -$8,877
>44. Yorumi Rena - $8,875
>45. Yumeoi Kakeru - $8,740
>46. Hakase Fuyuki - $8,586
>47. Nijisanji - $8,563
>48. Hanabatake Chaika - $8,210
>49. Onomachi Haruka - $7,728
>50. Debidebi Debiru - $7,642

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>>9055932
but that's for groups not individual talents.

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Other/Indies
>1. Ikinone Tomeru (Sinsogumi) - $26,989
>2. Maaru (Independent) - $22,798
>3. QuonTama (GuildQC) - $22, 479
>4. Oma Kirara (Noripro) - $21,985
>5. Suou Patra (HoneyStrap/774) - $21,536
>6. Rumi (Independent) - $21,022
>7. Kurumizawa Momo (Noripro) - $20,620
>8. Shirayuki Reid (Independent) - $20,163
>9. Kurumi Noah (VSPO) - $17,620
>10. Siro (.LIVE) - $17,222
>11. Shibuya Hal (Independent) - $16,993
>12. Shirayuki Mishiro (Noripro) - $15,370
>13. Fuji Aoi (Universal Music Japan) - $14,224
>14. Amano Pikamee (VOMS) - $13,992
>15. Asano Sisters (Independent) - $13,958
>16. Tenshi Nano (Masquerade) - $13,906
>17. Hashiba Natsumi (Animare/774) - $13,875
>18. Nekoda Pepero (Masquerade) - $13,660
>19. Arurandeisu (Holostars) - $12,843
>20. Shishigaya Flare (Independent) - $10,829
>21. Komori Met (VApArt/774) - $10,608
>22. Ichinose Uruha (VSPO) - $10,544
>23. Natsume Eri (Independent) - $10,395
>24. Nanto Kanaru (Independent) - $10,144
>25. Yumeno Lilith (Noripro) - $10,063
>26. Yukoku Roberu (Holostars) - $10,061
>27. Kohanai Sii (Independent) - $9,852
>28. Inaba Haneru (Animare/774) - $9,697
>29. Tenkai Tsukasa (BANs) - $9,646
>30. Zaki (Independent) - $9,451
>31. Tachibana Hinano (VSPO) - $9,364
>32. Mirutani Nia (Noripro) - $9,359
>33. Astel Leda (Holostars) - $9,150
>34. Kakyoin Chieri (.LIVE) - $9,091
>35. Toba Rana (Yenz Production) - $8,981
>36. Neko Matsuri (Independent) - $8,979
>37. Koinoya Mai (Propro) - $8,657
>38. Gatchman V (Independent) - $7,967
>39. Shishigami Leona (Re:AcT) - $7,963
>40. Hoozuki Warabe (Noripro) - $7,837
>41. Obear (Rescute) - $7,803
>42. Hanakumo Rin (Propro) - $7,792
>43. Amatsuka Lilyel (Independent) - $7,792
>44. Kagura Mea (Independent) - $7,783
>45. Enomiya Milk (Noripro) - $7,509
>46. Nenemaru (Independent) - $7,447
>47. Senba Kurono (Independent) - $7,407
>48. HACHI (Live Union) - $7,019
>49. Harugashumi Milina (Independent) - $6,942
>50. Tabasuko (Mirolive) - $6,986

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>>9055902
It's Gura. Even Kronii being the top EN of gen 2 in her 2nd month will really struggle to grow faster than Gura's default growth rate in September.

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Does Gura bring in the most money due to merch/ads etc? I feel she grows the fastest but white people aren't spending as much money

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>>9055902
Even if Gura stopped growing completely right now it'd take years for someone else to catch up

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>>9055942
Company with 100+ people, Selen is 16th with 20K. Even Petra made the list. Makes you think.

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>>9055873
I thought it would take at least a day. This is faster than I expected.

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>>9056007
Her Nendo sold out almost immediately everywhere, so much so that they had to prepare and announce a 2nd batch because they were still getting requests.

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>>9056007
Who among EN already has a nendo? Take your conclusion from that.

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>Holo is winning four days in a row

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>>9056007
Among holo branches? Yes
JP included? No. For the entire HoloPro, Aqua probably bring the most money this year

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>>9055980
It would depend on if getting a million subs will increase Kronii's visibility. Chances are small and it would probably take years but she's the one closest to having a chance. This also hinges though if Gura doesn't end up doing something that will reignite interest.

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>>9055980
Most likely. She gets sponsorships pretty consistently, massive VOD views for ad revenue, her superchats aren't high tier but they are still good. The big thing though is that although we have no super solid evidence, all signs point to her membership count being absolutely absurd.

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>>9055287
jesus christ that guy at the top, streaming nearly 12 hrs a day

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>>9056007
She is extremely good for marketing.
A valuable mascot for Covershit.
She doesn't need to do anything but shilling
see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR4wvfAvyqc
Big companies are numberfags.

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>>9055797
>The holos that sign up for the program get money for music advertisement only
You are thinking with the mind of a SIMP instead of with the mind of a businessman. Think about it
>if there is a profit to be made why wouldn’t the girl take the risk herself to keep a larger share of the reward?
And
>if there is no profit to be made, or if the risk is too high, why would the company assume all of the risk?

Also
>maybe a deal with Sony Music
What’s in it for Sony Music that they can’t already get by producing individual songs? Again, you’re thinking with that “must give a favorable deal for the girls no matter what” mentality.
Every girl is in a perfect position right now: if they choose to pursue their music ventures they have more than support to do so, contact with the best in the industry (be it producers, animators, whatever they need) as long as they’re willing to put their money where their mouth is, and they keep the lion share of the reward too.

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>>9055976
>>4. Oma Kirara (Noripro) - $21,985
>7. Kurumizawa Momo (Noripro) - $20,620
>12. Shirayuki Mishiro (Noripro) - $15,370
>25. Yumeno Lilith (Noripro) - $10,063
Yeah, NoriPro is definitely a GFE powerhouse.

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>>9056151
I'd love to have some actual sources on that.
JP links are fine.
As much as I like Aqua she hasn't taken any exclusive offers alone by herself iirc.

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>>9055942
>>1. Lauren Iroas - $106,741 Male
>>2. Leos Vincent - $88,994 Male
>>3. Furen E Lustario - $75,835 Female
>>4. Kenmochi Toya - $58,826 Male
>>5. Kuzuha - $51,599 Male
>>6. Fuwa Minato - $45,602 Male
>>7. Axia Krone - $42,263 Male
>>8. Kanae - $40,686 Male
>>9. Kaida Haru - $39,875 Male
>>10. Oliver Evans - $37,247 Male
>>11. Yuuki Chihiro - $36,274 Female
>>12. Kagami Hayato - $31,222 Male
>>13. Lain Paterson - $31,192 Female
>>14. Ibrahim - $25,756 Male
>>15. Saegusa Akina - $24,703 Male
>>16. Selen Tatsuki - $19,253 Female/EN
>>17. Hoshikawa Sara - $18,192 Female
>>18. Joe Rikiichi - $17,931 Male
>>19. Amamiya Kokoro - $15,237 Female
>>20. Rosemi Lovelock - $15,026 Female/EN
>>21. Shirayuki Tomoe - $14,634 Female
>>22. Ratna Petit - $14,621 Female
>>23. Ex Albio - $14,419 Male
>>24. Pomu Rainpuff - $13,969 Female/EN
>>25. Suzuki Masaru - $13,881 Male

It's really stark when you break it down. In fact Luna makes more than all but 4 of the girls in Niji JP, one of which was a new debut and probably won't be able to replicate that ever again.

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Is there any confirmation the holos get a cut of nendo sales?

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>>9056362
Luna saw the writing on the wall and got the hell out of there, lol.

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>>9056250
>Every girl is in a perfect position right now: if they choose to pursue their music ventures they have more than support to do so, contact with the best in the industry (be it producers, animators, whatever they need) as long as they’re willing to put their money where their mouth is, and they keep the lion share of the reward too.
I guess so.
>You are thinking with the mind of a SIMP instead of with the mind of a businessman
true

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>>9055975
Bloom wasn't just about groups. Didn't the Bloom concert have a bunch of solo songs? The problem isn't that Cover doesn't want to produce songs, but that they didn't have the capital to actively promote it until fairly recently. Now they can easily throw $5,000,000 for a large digital album featuring the girls and not worry that they will go broke any time soon.

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>>9056333
anon that's been the case for a long while now

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>>9056339
You can't be serious right? do you think people will make a separate record for individual earning from chuubas? Just use your critical thinking in this year aqua has
>participated in bloom ( notable because music-focused holo like sora and suisui opt-out from it)
>redbull ambassador
>curry meshi again (+concert)
>jahy ED song
>nendo

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Anyone knows why is this thread so slow?
It's literally JP prime time right now

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>>9056379
No but that would be a stupid thing to give up in your contract, especially for the handful of people that already have business experience before becoming Holos like Ina, Noel, Polka ect. In the US it's customary to get 5% for merch bearing your character's likeness.

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>>9056339
>As much as I like Aqua she hasn't taken any exclusive offers alone by herself iirc.
NTA but horse raicing and the marine festival come to mind

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>>9056549
This happened when nijibros afraid to show up,anon.

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>>9056569
I can imagine if they didn't offer it to Gura for example, she would have never known to ask for it.

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>>9056523
>>9056578
I know all of those. I thought you have numbers to back up because I would love to see my girl doing well.
so it is just a speculation based on participation.

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>>9055720
Glad for aqua. If she keep this up she going to be a force of nature once again. Pandering to apex fans and china was stupid as hell.

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>>9056471
>Didn't the Bloom concert have a bunch of solo songs?
don't know, didn't watch it. I was thinking more about radio advertisement, remixes contests or the things that are more common for music advertisement. That sort of thing

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>>9056549
Kind of a slow day, except for Marine all the Holos are getting mediocre numbers. No ENs but Kiara streaming. No baseball, 3ds, Apex tournaments for Nijis.

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>>9056632
1. I'd imagine Cover, which has experience with nendoroid deals already, knows how to negotiate something like that.
2. If she herself had to be the one to negotiate, Cover is absolutely useless.

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>>9056549
Seaniggers went to bed.

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>>9056549
Because they are losing four days in a row

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>>9056646
Yours on Gura is also a speculation based on nendo alone. So we give you speculation based on the amount of events, sponsor, ads, collabs, concerts, Aqua's been doing this past year which highly generated more money for the whole company than a fucking nendo sell

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>>9056632
If you do that and the person finds out later other people are getting it you get an extremely toxic situation, just to nickel and dime someone. That's why companies usually have standard contracts. Happened semi-recently with some youtube food channel. Turns out everyone was getting paid wildly different amounts for their appearances, not based on any particular reason other than what they could get them to sign to. It blew up because all the minorities all found out they were on the bottom of the scale or not being paid at all, and the whole thing shut down.

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>>9056658
>Niji can only compete with Holo when there are tournaments or big events

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>>9056672
I think that anon was referring to Cover not offering to pay royalties for featuring their characters on merchandise, but all of that is merchandise and I am certain that they do offer to give them a cut of those.

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>>9056772
I am not that anon.
also
>We

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Nijibros are being real quiet these days...

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>>9056781
Only the Apex vampire guy, the rest of them don't have very high daily streaming rates. Vtubing as a whole seems to be in a slow but steady decline.

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>>9056549
Shitposter's favorite tool for baiting is Kuzuha but his buff is wearing off so he's not topping charts anymore, hard to make a proper bait out of that.

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>>9056810
>talks to two anons
wonders why one of them uses a we
anonchama....

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>>9056799
NTA. But they certainly the girl their share of royalties but the real question is, like this anon said >>9056780, how much?

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>>9055618
That brilliant motherfucker.
He's ranking in views too, with ~800 average live viewers.

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>>9056780
Wait THIS is what happened with Bon Appetit? TIL I guess. I wasn't invested enough to look it up b ut I guess vt got me covered on random shit.

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>>9056841
Not decline, just back to normal after the HoloBoom last year.

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>>9055720
Pekora's member only had 3.5k most i saw, which would put her at 51 for the day.

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>>9056841
> https://twitter.com/mMtpe7cMCeQvm0U/status/1431845965628002308?s=20
they're starting to open up the country

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>>9056859
Fine then.
I am just too allergic to ledd*t behaviors.

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>>9056549
It's pretty comfy.

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>>9056973
>mMtpe7cMCeQvm0U
sus

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>>9056851
We're waiting for King's magnificent 1M milestone
He will get tremendous buff after that
Watch out holobroney~

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>>9057015
Hey look it's "nijibro"!

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>>9057015
>holobroney
it's holobrony, you blew your cover...

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>>9057015
>We're waiting for King's magnificent 1M milestone
already happened :^)

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>>9057092
Nice she ticked up another 10k subs too. Song buffs are real.

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>>9057092
oh i just noticed she's at 3.3M already, i guess the song will buff her subs too

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>>9057015
Ohazombie SEAnig-kun~

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>>9056915
The winter months will bring in more viewers

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>>9057173
August and December is the only niji month

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Nobody knows Japan's summer vacation already ended yesterday?

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>>9056339
Literally had a hprse racing named after her

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>>9056185
Theres not that much revenue in vod

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>>9057840
At least originals can make money, unlike cover songs even they are over 10M.

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>>9058275
>unlike cover songs even they are over 10M.
You can make money on covers, all you have is to license it and pay the statutory royalties (if there is no MV) or whatever you negotiated (if there is a MV)

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>WINNER OF THE DAY
award goes to.... Lamy!

Got 30k+CCV, 6k subs and 8k USD merely by talking with her friends on the phone. AMAZING!

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>>9059682
>OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT OF THE DAY
award goes to… Hal! Managed to squeeze himself in pretty much the only slot he could fit a #1 even with that high performance!

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>>9059767
Pic related

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>>9057007
That's just how twitter handles non-romanji usernames

[Anonymous No.]

Is it just me or are views kind of low in general today

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>>9059945
Summer vacation ended

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>>9059945
summer vacation over

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>>9059945
>Is it just me or are views kind of low in general today
Wut? When was the last time you saw two Holos pulling 30k+ outside of special events?
What they are, in the oast two days, is unevenly distributed.
Today these three girls sucked all the audience towards their streams, and yesterday Pekora and Subaru did likewise.

Even in the off hours the same happened with Shion and Suisei gracing the after hours with strong streams, depriving all other girls from the "itinerant" audience

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>>9060121
come on anon you know they gotta pull 100k viewers regularly otherwise theyre literal nobodies

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>>9060121
A milestone endurance totsu isn't special? Does Lamy do them every week or something?

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god I hope this is an indicator of Gura finally willing to chase those numbers, I always wanted to see how she'd fare if she actually wanted numbers

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>>9060603
"Special event" in this context is: debut, birthday, anniversary, 3D debut, new outfit.

>>9060708
If she were chasing numbers there would at very least be a single officlal post by either herself or Calli on Reddit, for instance.

The only one using Reddit to her full advantage is Marine, she's using it as EN Twitter, essentially, and announcing there anything she considers worthy announcing in her own timeline on Twitter.

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>>9060905
Just because it wasn't a once in a lifetime event doesn't mean it wasn't special. The only Holo who got to 30k today without doing anything special is Marine.

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>>9056891
Yup. The whole thing was fantastically stupid. That’s exactly the situation Cover doesn’t want to deal with. They have like 50 girls of varying levels of mental stability they are trying to keep off the ledge.

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>>9061890
kek, that's exactly most companies have two things
>standard contracts
>pay matrix
In Japan even more, their pay matrix, up until a few years ago, was entirely based on seniority and age with no regards for experience or productivity.

Right now some companies are changing that but for most it's the same: you enter young and at the rock bottom and bid your time upwards

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Man, I've been scouring both /vt/ and /jp/ for that site that lists all those private Japanese companies with their market cap but I can't find the link. Some anons posts screens from time to time, but I can't find the specific one nor the post with the link.

Does anyone know?

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>>9055324
>1. Mori Calliope - $49,289
Seems like having a scuffed month didn't affect her surperchat earnings

Also, Holostats isn't tracking Mori's channel.

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>>9059767
seems that the apex drama is working I guess

[Anonymous No.]

why does Gura hate numbers so much?

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>>9064079
Holostats froze this afternoon. Their coder may wake up and fix it soon

[Anonymous No.]

No Gods.
No Kings.
Only Apex Predators.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9064231
Numbers aren't that important after a certain threshold. Kiara mentioned that most of the HoloEN girls are just doing it for their own enjoyment at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9064744
DID YOU SAY APEX???

[Anonymous No.]

>Rosemi crying because she took too long to reach 100k
https://streamable.com/zfv25p

YOU GUYS KNOW THESE TEARS ARE BECAUSE OF YOU NUMBERFAGS, RIGHT?
HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL?
>APOLOGIZE!
NOW!

[Anonymous No.]

>>9065267
Based fuck that backstabbing whore

[Anonymous No.]

>>9064744
Right now Ayame has the record for most viewed cover song in one week with about 1.7 million. I'm just glad that record is going to get crushed. That lazy whore doesn't deserve anything.

Reflect has the overall record at 4 million in one week, but that is an original, not a cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9065267
I... I need to save her

[Anonymous No.]

>>9065267
jeez when she goes below 1k median she is gonna be CRUMBLE.Specially if she comapresherself to selene.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9065267
If you are too thin skinned for numbers and public opinion, you shouldn't be throwing yourself out into the public. Reality can be quite cruel to the weak willed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9065267
If ever a VTuber hits an emotional point, always remember there was once a lone lady that debuted with only 13 viewers

[Anonymous No.]

do you guys actually believe it wasn't a stunt to make viewers stay with her longer? it's textbook...

[Anonymous No.]

So Watame SC reading triumphs Kiara playing Zelda...

Jesus her numbers game is not feeling well

[Anonymous No.]

>>9065412
Ayame can be "lazy" because she is cute. That's enough to be successful in this world.
>>9065267
I feel a bit bad, but I know she's trying to play it up for more sympathy and money

[Anonymous No.]

>>9065832
facts. kiara and sana have both done the same shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>9065904
Sana?

Kiara got called out for it. It wouldn't work on holobase, her seniors started a much challenging phase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9065806
Ah yes, the legend of the 13...
>>9065834
SS is the WORST of the Mainline Zelda games, bar none. It's got the worst 'companion', it's got the crummiest gimmicky gameplay, and it's got the least sales of any 3d Zelda.
The ONLY genuinely interesting thing to come out of the game is Demise and a bit of lore. I hope no other Chubba, Niji or Hololive, plays the game because it is an absolute killer for numbers AND audience enjoyment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9065937
well in reality it was kinda kiara for both of them lmao, she did on behalf of sana the other day on stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>9055324
>KSON is her own section now
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>9056245
The Taco Bell thing too, that wasn't a fever dream.

I'm pretty curious how much Ina brings in behind the scenes, considering how much merch art she's done, the wacom event, being chosen as the first representative for draw-a-lot, not to mention she is LITERALLY the most watched art streamer in the entire world.

[Anonymous No.]

>RatGirl playing Bayonetta 2 in about o e hour
PREDICTIONS?

Slot is clear except for Ina entering the second hour of Ender Lillies, a game she got 10k, 7k and 7k so far.
I say RatGirl opens to an easy 10k and maybe incline to 13k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9066367
>Slot is clear except for Ina entering the second hour of Ender Lillies, a game she got 10k, 7k and 7k so far.
Kiara.....

[Anonymous No.]

Biweekly Hololive Originals numbers video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBJzBVens_A

[Anonymous No.]

>>9055324
>>Kson - $113,215
She can't keep getting away with it!
That's what I'd like to say but unfortunately I'm not chinese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9066432
she doesnt count in this prediction, she is a non-factor lets be honest

[Anonymous No.]

>>9066432
Kiara won’t enter the seventh hour with that debuffiest game, will she?

[Anonymous No.]

Superchat totals for 2021 so far (* denotes a vtuber who retired this year)
>Hololive (JP)
Kiryu Coco* - $1,465,968
Uruha Rushia - $1,249,036
Houshou Marine - $730,813
Yukihana Lamy - $652,615
Usada Pekora - $634,288
Amane Kanata - $614,440
Momosuzu Nene - $481,376
Tsunomaki Watame - $454,856
Shiranui Flare - $391,586
Sakura Miko - $391,275
Inugami Korone - $390,305
Minato Aqua - $380,353
Nekomata Okayu - $337,287
Oozora Subaru - $326,939
Shirogane Noel - $307,319
Nakiri Ayame - $301,767
Natsuiro Matsuri - $265,499
Tokoyami Towa - $238,425
Shishiro Botan - $223,208
Hoshimachi Suisei - $220,720
Shirakami Fubuki - $198,881
Ookami Mio - $187,788
Akai Haato - $183,948
Aki Rosenthal - $178,223
Murasaki Shion - $152,669
Himemori Luna - $146,176
Omaru Polka - $140,154
Roboco - $94,488
Tokino Sora - $88,164
Yozora Mel - $51,613
Yuzuki Choco - $47,318
Total - $11,527,497

>Hololive EN
Mori Calliope - $558,529
Takanashi Kiara - $532,733
Gawr Gura - $475,558
Amelia Watson - $269,099
Ninomae Ina'nis - $247,065
IRyS - $77,242
Total - $2,160,226

>Holostars
Yukoku Roberu - $95,401
Astel Leda - $74,218
Kageyama Shien - $64,520
Arurandeisu - $63,933
Aragami Oga - $50,285
Kishido Temma - $35,553
Rikka - $35,225
Kanade Izuru - $30,720
Hanasaki Miyabi - $25,980
Total - $475,835

>Hololive ID
Kureiji Ollie - $141,585
Pavolia Reine - $68,271
Anya Melfissa - $37,290
Moona Hoshinova - $29,613
Airani Iofifteen - $26,142
Ayunda Risu - $19,718
Total - $322,619

>Inonaka Music
AZKi - $34,715

Hololive Production total - $14,520,892

[Anonymous No.]

>>9066625
Damn Reflect is still going strong

[Anonymous No.]

>>9066786
>Nijisanji (JP)
Fuwa Minato - $431,757
Kanae - $392,371
Ibrahim - $354,709
Kuzuha - $314,174
Shirayuki Tomoe - $281,586
Yuki Chihiro - $252,145
Kagami Hayato - $237,639
Furen E Lustario - $195,076
Suzuhara Lulu* - $186,558
Kaida Haru - $175,519
Saegusa Akina - $139,321
Kenmochi Toya - $135,422
Inui Toko - $111,824
Lauren Iroas - $106,741
Ratna Petit - $96,398
Debidebi Debiru - $95,075
Amamiya Kokoro - $89,711
Yumeoi Kakeru - $89,578
Leos Vincent - $88,994
Ars Almal - $87,642
Yashiro Kizuku - $86,322
Lize Helesta - $86,277
Machita Chima - $84,584
Ange Katrina - $80,378
Tsukino Mito - $78,754
Sukoya Kana - $78,429
Levi Elipha - $74,637
Nagao Kei - $73,498
Sasaki Saku - $72,120
Takamiya Rion - $72,063
Otogibara Era* - $71,942
Lain Paterson - $70,455
Hanabatake Chaika - $69,102
Yorumi Rena - $67,489
Shiina Yuika - $67,465
Gundo Mirei - $65,783
Joe Rikiichi - $64,728
Kitakoji Hisui - $63,891
Hoshikawa Sara - $62,866
Fushimi Gaku - $61,350
Axia Krone - $60,909
Suzuki Masaru - $60,041
Belmond Banderas - $56,364
Nishizono Chigusa - $56,052
Ex Albio - $54,987
Oliver Evans - $54,702
Suzuka Utako - $54,300
Genzuki Tojiro - $52,430
Honma Himawari - $51,322
Emma August - $51,076
Fumino Tamaki - $50,798
Sakura Ritsuki - $47,047
Suo Sango - $46,779
Kurusu Natsume - $46,593
Matsukai Mao - $44,031
Hakase Fuyuki - $42,889
Luis Cammy - $42,329
Elu - $40,745
Ryushen - $40,023
Nui Sociere - $39,653
Melissa Kinrenka - $38,843
Aiba Uiha - $37,559
Mashiro - $37,086
Dola - $37,027
Eli Conifer - $36,503
Sorahoshi Kirame - $36,441
Onomachi Haruka - $36,072
Yuhi Riri - $35,826
Kanda Shoichi - $35,318
Sister Claire - $35,197
Higuchi Kaede - $33,400
Warabeda Meiji - $32,693
Morinaka Kazaki - $30,868
Shellin Burgundy - $30,315
Yamagami Karuta - $30,272
Shibuya Hajime - $30,146
Naraka - $29,951
Mayuzumi Kai - $29,871
Naruse Naru - $29,606
Mononobe Alice - $29,440
Makaino Ririmu - $27,710
Hayama Marin - $27,312
Uzuki Kou - $26,216
Suzuya Aki - $25,644
Harusaki Air - $25,487
(cont.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>9066851
Asahina Akane - $23,019
Shizuka Rin - $20,752
Gwelu Os Gar - $19,624
Rindou Mikoto - $19,512
Seto Miyako - $18,681
Yukishiro Mahiro - $18,671
Hayase Sou - $18,581
Aizono Manami - $18,141
Fumi - $17,308
Nijisanji - $16,608
Moira - $14,502
Ushimi Ichigo - $13,448
Akabane Youko - $12,328
Maimoto Keisuke - $11,006
Sakuyui - $11,003
ChroNoiR - $9,564
Ienaga Mugi - $8,187
Azuchi Momo - $8,124
Kuroi Shiba - $7,480
Asuka Hina - $7,123
Todo Kohaku - $6,424
Yaguruma Rine - $5,505
Amemori Sayo - $4,327
Todoroki Kyoko - $3,635
Gilzaren III - $0
Kataribe Tsumugu - $0
Yuzuki Roa - $0
Total - $7,358,334

Nijisanji EN
Pomu Rainpuff - $76,569
Elira Pendora - $46,664
Finana Ryugu - $31,409
Selen Tatsuki - $24,634
Rosemi Lovelock - $19,961
Petra Gurin - $12,993
Nijisanji English - $1,627
Total - $213,857

Nijisanji KR
Nun Bora - $39,881
So Nagi - $17,865
Shin Yuya* - $17,721
Lee Roha - $15,189
Yang Nari - $10,582
Seffyna - $9,979
Oh Jiyu - $8,150
Min Suha - $7,711
Chae Ara - $7,220
Lee Siu - $7,170
Ban Hada - $5,656
Gaon - $5,538
Akira Ray - $5,188
Han Chiho - $5,006
Ryu Hari - $4,124
Shin Kiru - $3,366
Song Mia - $689
Total - $171,035

Nijisanji ID
Hana Macchia - $20,416
Bonnivier Pranaja - $4,728
Derem Kado - $2,226
Reza Avanluna - $2,052
ZEA Cornelia - $1,902
Taka Radjiman - $1,747
Miyu Ottavia - $1,222
Amicia Michella - $901
Nagisa Arcinia - $855
Azura Cecillia - $828
Nara Haramaung - $819
Riksa Dhirendra - $647
Layla Alstroemeria - $630
Etna Crimson - $617
Siska Leontyne - $486
Rai Galilei - $250
Total - $40,326

Nijisanji IN
Noor* - $7,661
Aadya* - $1,180
Vihaan* - $63
Total - $8,904

Nijisanji total - $7,792,456

[Anonymous No.]

>>9066886
>Animare
Inaba Haneru - $123,859
Yunohara Izumi - $61,630
Kazami Kuku - $58,511
Shiromiya Mimi - $44,120
Souya Ichika - $38,338
Seshima Rui - $36,769
Hashiba Natsumi* - $33,141
Tsukinoki Tirol - $33,017
Hinokuma Ran - $30,494
Oura Rukako - $12,260
Hira Hikari - $4,675
(Konan Mia - no data)
Total - $476,814

>Honeystrap
Suou Patra - $119,672
Sekishiro Mico - $28,419
Shimamuri Charlotte - $25,201
Saionji Mary - $19,335
Total - $192,627

>VApArt
Komori Met - $73,498
And Uge - $25,302
Huma Wat - $19,410
Kisaki Anko - $19,122
Kanade Kanon - $8,242
Total - $145,574

>Sugar Lyric
Ryugasaki Rene - $33,641
Shishio Chris - $28,503
Kojo Anna - $19,380
Total - $81,524

774 total - $896,539

[Anonymous No.]

>>9066937
>Noripro
Shirayuki Mishiro - $158,605
Hoozuki Warabe - $102,850
Yumeno Lilith - $93,301
Oma Kirara - $93,046
Inuyama Tamaki - $77,106
Kurumizawa Momo - $66,585
Enomiya Milk - $49,771
Mirutani Nia - $30,858
Himesaki Yuzuru - $30,105
Kumagaya Takuma - $25,035
Total - $727,262

>.LIVE
Kakyoin Chieri - $97,894
Kagura Suzu - $76,271
Siro - $43,078
Carro Pino - $37,615
Mokota Mememe - $36,002
Yamato Iori - $25,720
Kitakami Futaba* - $16,571
Yaezawa Natori* - $15,705
Baacharu - $6,108
Kongo Iroha* - $5,570
Merry Milk - $3,336
(Milily, Rururica & Rikumu - no data)
Total - $363,870

>VSPO
Kurumi Noah - $74,548
Ichinose Uruha - $61,520
Kaga Sumire - $45,896
Tachibana Hinano - $37,099
Yakumo Beni - $32,535
Kaga Nazuna - $21,292
Kaminari Qpi - $19,676
Hanabusa Lisa - $16,799
Asumi Sena - $12,159
Kogara Toto - $7,291
Tosaki Mimi - $7,087
Kisaragi Ren - $5,718
Total - $341,710

[Anonymous No.]

Numbers of HoloCouncil based on my custom research:
>rat - 7
>owl - 4
>fauna - 8
>kronii - 11
>sana - 2
The number indicates how many hardcore fans the vtuber has.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9066886
From the SC alone, it makes sense how Cover can catch up to AnyColor's investment gain despite having 1/3 of the roster size.

I was thinking that Cover should spend a few millions of those profits into 3D facilities for EN and ID, but seeing that they keep hiring non-NA talents, it's not sensible to be building 3D facilities over multiple EN countries, but at least they should give the ID a 3D facility since they live in the same city(?).

[Anonymous No.]

>>9067416
I don’t know about setting up infrastructure with expensive equipment in the third world. That’s the recipe for trouble

[Anonymous No.]

>>9066367
she willl open with 4k prestream.
And will climb to 10k max
you overstimate te appeal of hack n slash games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9067589
>you overstimate te appeal of hack n slash games.
Actually I’m applying a 20% debut buff bonus and 10% “let’s check what’s going on after Kiara and Ina” bonus

[Anonymous No.]

>>9067416
the only shit cover needs to do is set up anote deal with some western manufacturer to sell their merch.
As yagoo said in an intrview, i have a product they like, we sell that prodcut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9066851
>the top of NijiEN has made more money in 2021 than almost half of NijiJP
Goddamn. I know it's due to debut and 100k but, she made more than Lain who also debuted, and Levi and Mashiro who had 3D, Mashiro being male too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9067907
There are no western manufacturers, everything is made in China because it's so much cheaper. They just need distributors. Imagine if you could just go on Amazon and buy Hololive shit rather than some buggy half-translated Japanese site.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9067907
>deal with some western manufacturer
>western manufacturers
kek, I wish I was 18 and naive again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9067932
Not only that, Ina doesn't even read superchats and would still be 7th out of the entire Nijisanji company if she was in it.

[Anonymous No.]

Ina declined pretty hard even at dead hours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9068227
This game she’s playing is deadlier yo numbers than the malaria.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9068227
Ina always has this pattern, slow start then growth as more people get home from work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9067589
>>9067713
seemslike 3k open so yeah probably sub10k
Also why are hack n slash so unpopular

[Anonymous No.]

>>9068227
>Ina declined
I hope people are just shitposting and not actually this stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9069014
Ina got around 10-13k playing Bayonetta 1 for 1st ep, but subsequent eps were all in the 7-8k range.
For comparison, Lamy got 7k for the first ep and 4k for subsequent eps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9069014
Because you need one of two very specific set of skills to make games like this a buff and most streamers on earth fall outside either.
1. super good
2. just the right kind of bad while being engaging enough to turn it into sufferkino

[Anonymous No.]

>>9069998
yeah but ina and lamy are more stablished streamers.
Rrat is on the 6k which is lamy territory.

Also i noticed they changed timeslots this week.
RRat streaming at this time and fauna then in really late hours. Same for sana streaming at jp hours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9070369
Ya I'm not saying anything about Baelz. I'm just listing examples of holos playing similar games. Bayo 2 on week 2 is a bold choice since it's old, long, and there's like 0 hype for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9056024
>>9056362
>>9056407
It's as if they have music deals, sponsorships, voice packs and merchandise outside of superchats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9065267
Damn, this makes me remember when early Miko showed up to an idol fest and only a few people came to see her and how she felt absolutely worthless afterward. You need some pretty thick skin to stay in this game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9070826
Calm down we can't even quantify those.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9070773
yeah np
6k for anew time slot with this game is ok imo

[Anonymous No.]

>>9070773
6k is pretty low. I think Hakos is good, but good doesn’t necessarily mean popular.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9065267
>making nijinigs cry by being a numberchad
feels good

[Anonymous No.]

>>9066786
>>9066851
>>9066937
>>9066971
goof shit. thanks for including agencies outside of nijisanji and hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9071017
of course we can't, but we also can't act like they don't exist either. Like, Pomu has 70k sc but I'm sure that Mito has much more just with music and sponsorship alone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9066367
>I say RatGirl opens to an easy 10k and maybe incline to 13k.
I would’ve went 15k, which goes to show how wrong we can be. She seems to do better appealing to JP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9071606
Yep. I’m chalk this (and Sana on JP prime time) as the EN2 girls probing the slots for a good fit

[Anonymous No.]

>>9071778
JP don’t like Sana, apparently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9071778
Looks like the EN audience is declining a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

Sana yesterday only got 3k, the debuff already died?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9072136
>Sana yesterday only got 3k
She got 6.8k. What numbers are you looking at?
> the debuff already died?
Debut buff and debuff are completely different things...

[Anonymous No.]

>>9071976
well she doesnt peak japanese.
Hakoz does in that timeslot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9072197
he meant daily subs I guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>9071976
Her accent is a huge JOP filter. Sana absolutely cannot stream at JP times. Baelz's accent is a lot less thick and she speaks Japanese anyways.

>>9072044
The HoloEN audience objectively got larger. Without Baelz streaming right now, Ina would still be getting her 6-7k alone in this timeslot. Baelz is adding 5.5k to that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9072136
Sana got 6.8k, and it was at a different time than her normal time. Which is about right for her, because if its at normal time, should be about 8-9k providing no debuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9070369
It took IRyS two weeks (her second week shifted Gura's schedule one hour early) to settle for the 7/8 PM PDT.
EN2 brings five additional members, figuring out the most optimal time slots for all eleven members will take a longer time.

[Anonymous No.]

Predictions for Mumei and Sana collab (on Mumei’s channel). I’m thinking 12k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9072263
What Bae should do is a daily, or at least 3 times a week, morning chatting stream which would fall right into prime time for burgers just like that one she already did. Then do her regular gaming stream during JP prime time like she has been doing. Would be a bit of a gring but that would warm her up to both audiences.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9066786
>>9066851
>>9066886
>>9066937
>>9066971
stop spamming this shit every thread. Or at least put them all in one picture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9072635
Probably not that high since they're overlapping with Baelz and Gura, and maybe even Kronii if they go beyond 2 hours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9070922
>You need some pretty thick skin to stay in this game.
>"in this business, you either have thick skin, or you will learn how to grow it quickly"

[Anonymous No.]

>>9072951
at least he's posting numbers fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>9072635
13k seems to be a good stimate.

On a similar number related thing about youtube.
Youtube seems to be getting popular twitchsterms on its site now. it was Dr disrespect first, then luppo now som tim guy.
I wonder if a new wave of normal

>>9072759
i want her to keep trying for that pre Jp prime time slot. Even now you can see some jp viewers in chat. it wont grant her any big numebrs but securing 5k viewers minimum on bot slots

[Anonymous No.]

>>9073089
they're as useful as this guy >>9067050

[Anonymous No.]

>>9066786
>Takanashi Kiara - $532,733
>top 8 holo in term of SCs
SASUGA chiken! with those ccv..
i k-kneel

[Anonymous No.]

This thread is depressing. Why wasn't I born female in life?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9073226
>>9072951
thank you for productive posts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9072635
Sana debuff means 9-10k

[Anonymous No.]

>>9073424
she had 6k waiting so its is geting bigger than 10k
Bae problaly dropping 1k same for ina

[Anonymous No.]

>>9073424
>Sana debuff
this collab will be on Owl's channel
Sana's debuff mostly comes from dicreased discoverability (fuck susan)

[Anonymous No.]

>>9072951
>>9073226
Fuck off if you're going to shit on others but not contribute

[Anonymous No.]

>ina/hakos/mume+sana/
and then gura
this is one ell of a overlapp

[Anonymous No.]

Rat is down to 3k live viewers. I guess from added competition.

Sana said she has lag, which I is assume because she’s in Australia.
>>9073338
Wrong thread

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Numbers bros, how long did Reflect get 2 mil again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9078165
40 hours 19 minutes

[Anonymous No.]

>>9078165
41 Hours.
There's a subreddit that some holo-numberbro has set up that tracks assorted milestones on r/holostatistics

[Anonymous No.]

>>9077857
>Rat is down to 3k live viewers.
damn Bayonetta such a debuff..

[Anonymous No.]

>>9078165
I believe it beat the time it took Mori's "Off With Their Heads" to reach 1 million views. I think it was 40 hours or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9077974
The normal viewer pool for EN at any given time doesn't seem to be particularly big, huh. Maybe most EN viewers rely more on clips and VODs.

[Anonymous No.]

Gura is sucking off the new viewers. The other girls are losing numbers because they cannot replenish their viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9078962
is big enough for 1-3 streams streams.
But against gura it is not possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9079266
then kroni comes in 20min

[Anonymous No.]

>>9055287
whoa i didn't realize shuba was that popular

[Anonymous No.]

>>9079366
anon, her ccv higher then Gura's noadays
https://piyo.chats.ninja/video/youtube/qT-ZzEHfw2s

[Anonymous No.]

>>9079366
She knew exactly what to do once clipper channels started to focus on her (she used to have one of the smallest foreign fanbase).
Her morning talk stream is also very clippable.

[Anonymous No.]

superchats?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9073230
Kiara has a very good members to ccv ratio as well. She falls off with views compared to her peers but her marathon streams favor premium income. Overall she punches way, way above her weight and after all the filters her core fan base is very loyal. There are much worse places to be than the niche she occupies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9077857
Bayonetta is a bad game to watch. The only thing I'm waiting is for them to play Bioshock.

[Anonymous No.]

>80% of holoEN2 vs Gura
>Gura absolutely dominating them

[Anonymous No.]

>Gura actually lost some viewers once Kronii started
Is Kronii the cunnyseur reformer? Will she turn them into hag lovers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9079981
Fangirls is something else entirely. The popular niji males has some of the most clichéd designs in anime meant for bait. It's kinda surprising how niji's strat to fill as many niche in the market works sometimes because people will watch them even if they play apex all day, and would celebrate any events nevertheless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9073230
>August / July median views (JST)
>Gura 17,882 / 21,695 (-3,813)
>Ina 11,984 / 11,911 (+73)
>Amelia 8,813 / 9,061 (-248)
>Irys 8,174 / 14,127 (-5,952)
>Mori 7,283 / 8,750 (-1,467)
>Kiara 6,228 / 7,457 (-1,229)

About the same ratio as Mori

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>>9065267
I dunno if you picked this image to represent another vtuber that was upset she was last at being a million subs of her gen even though she wasn't really lagging that far from the others, on top of in general still being one of the fastest in her company.

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Rat's ccv under 3k..

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>>9081249
is more sana and mumei finisshin

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>>9068069
that's a pretty nuts stat considering how much time Ina spent actively discouraging superchats early on

[Anonymous No.]

>EN2 buff already wearing out
kek
ID3 will be grim

[Anonymous No.]

Rat, really fucked up with this time slot. not only she overlapped not only with Gura and Ina, but with 2 streams of members from her gen

[Anonymous No.]

>>9081753
T.Chumpedo
Gura already ended the characters creation part and rrat is gaining back her viewers.

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>>9081753
will see in 6 month

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>>9081287
i thought saegusa akina is experiencing recline when looking at those avg median ccv charts but i guess his listener still saved up some of their money until today. quick look at piyo/playboard shows ok numbers for his non-apex streams, unsure why someone would sabotage themselves like that.
also i have no clue wtf axia is doing but he and lauren get easy money on normal streams.
t. ESL

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>>9081202
Gura: This is my time slot bitch. You can try but don't cry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9081799
Everyone fucked up trying to go against Gura playing dollhouse of all people and they all pick the shittiest games to play with. The best games to stream are usually the ones that has the most replayability and overarching stories you could possibly think off. Darks souls, Slay the spire, Hades or maybe Civ. I don't know why the fuck they're playing simulators or meme games. Horror kusoges has a better effect than the games they're playing. Apex and Minecraft stands above all.

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>>9081850
>rrat is gaining back her viewers.
Sana/Owl collab was finished. there are only 3 streams again

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>>9082085
this will be 1st time Gura beats Kronii after her debu

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>>9081753
The brutal kneecapping from Susan is going to linger over EN2 forever. I was so used to all the EN girls surpassing all the non-high tier JP holos by default but I'm not sure EN2 will even surpass Mel at this point.

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>>9082117
>dollhouse

Isn’t Sims a buff game? I might be wrong but I remember Kiara had higher numbers than usual with that game

[Anonymous No.]

>>9082293
This is the first time that Gura isn't reading superchats while Kronii is playing

[Anonymous No.]

Kronii at 9.6k.

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>>9082117
Unless you got loyal fan like irys or ina or you all play minecraft at the same time you can go head to head with gura.

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>>9081850
>rrat is gaining back her viewers.
Doesn’t look like it. Still says 3.1k.

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>>9082117
>Slay the spire, Hades or maybe Civ
this are all debuff games.
mb Civ +Owl is good combo, but this is it

[Anonymous No.]

>>9082378
>Sims a buff game
yes for 1 stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>9079981
Mori got like 4k from her zatsudan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9082378
It is when she also made sim for everyone

[Anonymous No.]

>>9081753
ID doesn't compete viewers with EN

[Anonymous No.]

>>9082621
Character creation is really that entertaining huh?

[Anonymous No.]

Holo EN numbers

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>>9082838
Gura teaching EN2 to never to touch the 8 PM EST timeslot ever again

[Anonymous No.]

>>9082805
>ID doesn't compete viewers with EN
is this a joke?

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>>9082818
i see you never plated Sims huh?

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>>9082725
If you present an interesting idea for content, it's going to be a buff rather than playing something straight.
Open ended games just make this easier to do

[Anonymous No.]

>>9082818
https://store.steampowered.com/app/678960/CODE_VEIN/

Check the review, sort by "funny".

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>>9081753
Recently (as in, within the last few months), bar exceptional circumstances, debut buffs seem to last around a week before numbers start normalizing for both Holo and Niji (was the case for IRyS, NijiEN / EN2, and edengumi), so EN2 buff starting to wear out isn't really a big surprise here.
If anything, the only concern would be how the rat's number dropped so much over just a day or two. Was it the issue with the game? Or with her audience / stream time for this stream? Or will this be her normal numbers from now on? I have no clue, maybe someone watching Holos more often might have better insight

[Anonymous No.]

Kronii got 10k for a second there

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>>9082952
you should haze those bitches from the start

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>>9083148
Well il be damned.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9083148
mb she is actually maintaining 10k now

[Anonymous No.]

Today's superchats

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>>9083087
It's absolutely a combination of time + game. Hack & slash games are a debuff for the EN audience, and OLD hack and slash games are even worse for numbers. DMC3 is a goddamn great game, but numberswise Gura got slaughtered by it.
Bayo 2, in a slot where many of her new audience she was building aren't present (Rushia's timeslot to JP primetime range) meant she was never going to pull great numbers.

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>>9083148
Still 10k
I doubt she will beat Gura due the later first time playing Sims 4 but she is definetely the strong card of Council and the only one to actually face Gura.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9082952
18k seems to be Gura's median nowadays. If anything Kronii and Bae are the ones competing for viewers
>>9083087
didn't watch her since I didn't like the game

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>>9082968
He's kinda right, though. With the exception of IRyS and Mori (maybe plus Baelz?) who usually lives in Asia and occasionally stream in JP night hour, ID and EN tend to stream on different timeslot, so I don't think they'll compete for the same audiences even though HoloID's main audiences are indeed mainly EOP and ESL. It's not like, for example, Ina's fans will change their living schedule to watch new IDs instead of her

[Anonymous No.]

Gura 17.7k
Kronii 10k
Baelz 3.2k
Pomu 1.6k
Finana 1.5k

[Anonymous No.]

>>9083290
Akina's birthday stream alone (excluding the MV he released today) got $48,618 and is the 26th most superchatted vtuber stream of all-time, in addition to #9 that he already holds for his 3D debut.

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>>9083382
Kronii didn't affected Baelz

[Anonymous No.]

I always thought it was weird that gas stations open up so close to each other, sometimes there are 2-3 at the same intersection. But it makes sense. Turns out you earn more being at a high-traffic area even if you are worse than the competition vs. being further away from your competition.

Not saying it applies to this situation, just came to mind

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>>9083459
ID generally streams from 11PM to 9AM EST

[Anonymous No.]

>>9083553
only stream of his that outdoes it in revenue is the 3d

[Anonymous No.]

>>9083556
>Some chumbuds are actually switching to paizuri instead of cunny
Kek

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>>9082293
>this will be 1st time Gura beats Kronii after
Yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9083461
>Pomu 1.6k
>Finana 1.5k
isnt this a collab?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9081202
Gura's got a pseudo EN 1 collab though by having the other 4 as characters from the looks of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9083290
eden gumi's debut buff for viewers may have worn off but they're still making bank, feels like there's always one or two of them in these ranks every day

[Anonymous No.]

numbers

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>>9083893
Posted the wrong image like a retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9083620
wise

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>>9082968
Look at the numbers during their MK8 tournament. iirc Reine gets 4.7k and Ollie gets 3.7k

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>>9082838
samechan sub 20k...reclining..

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>>9083970
>from 3k to 1.5k
rosemi alone is adebuff for both

[Anonymous No.]

>>9084121
is this surprise for you that Ollie and Reine(who was 1n of the best MK players) have loyal audience at this point? do you think every single person will prefer watch Gura over any other vtuber?

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>>9083893
>numbers
this is some midget bullshit

[Anonymous No.]

There's still some gradual climb on Kronii's stream, I think she might hit 11k. I wonder if she might also gain more viewers if she goes for 2 more hours close to her usual timeslot that has shown to reach 15-20k.

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>>9084223
are you out of your fucking mind?
why are even trying to compare 6mem collab vs 3mem collab?
+there is no Selen

[Anonymous No.]

Kronii might get 11k now that Bae is done.

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>>9084514
Baelz just ended so yea

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>>9084514
>gain more viewers if she goes for 2 more hours
only if gura will finish to play Sims or finish the stream

[Anonymous No.]

I told you none of EN2 would be more popular than Leos but you doubted me in your delusion and cope. Clock whores is already struggling to keep up with his numbers and she still has debut buff going on. Holobronies lose again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9083970
Selen started.

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>>9084223
ESL accent is a niche.

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>>9084514
Kronii CCV had shown to gradually increase as time goes by and then drops at the same pace until now.
Im my opionion, sometimes I feel the youtube system has it againsts her because there are times in which she drops like crazy and a few minutes later incline like a rocket while the rest have stable CCV behaviour.

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>>9084668
>Leos
>delusion
>cope
>Clock whores
>debut buff
>Holobronies
>lose again
give me link to random shitpost generator pls

[Anonymous No.]

Is gura having problems with YouTube?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9084754
>Selen started.
>SC
another 1.7k stream?
like her but this midget does not belong here

[Anonymous No.]

>>9084668
>his biggest stream was a full gen collab in the last 2 weeks
ok

[Anonymous No.]

How can we save the strongest NijiEN?

[Anonymous No.]

Kronii got 11k now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9084830
youtube has been throttileng a little

[Anonymous No.]

Kronii finally got to 11k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9084918
Always play Apex. Embrace the destiny of Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

11k for /u/ clock on her second playthrough of a RTS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9084830
Holy shit is youtube broken or just Holostats?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9084869
You're asking too much of a shitposter to even read the title of the stream.
It seems people really like to tune in for his endurance streams.
>>9084918
Make her an apex bot like the other successful Nijisanji members.

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>>9084668
Anon, clock already beat the lastest stream of that image.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9084969
>RTS
do you call everything RTS nowadays

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>>9084121
>Reine gets 4.7k

[Anonymous No.]

>>9084918
Just play apex, is te only ting that make her grow and the only game she can bond with
we know it
she knows it
mangement knows it
just become Bora 2.0 and be done with it.

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>>9084918
Learn JP and play APEX. Only doing one of them is not enough, you have to do both of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9084528
Lazu light side of the collab had double the numebrs of the one on rosemis chanel...sooo....

[Anonymous No.]

>>9085069
t. chumpedo

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>>9083553
Oh wow. He might crack the top 20 possibly sometime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9085209
miss, zoomer

[Anonymous No.]

>>9085037
Difference is that he doesn't have debut buff anymore and she still does. He's beating everyone BUT her and all of them still have debut buff. EN2 is a midget gen.

[Anonymous No.]

Putting Gura and Kronii aside
Do you think Fauna will deliver later on with numbers?
Her first unarchived stream and is something unusual for EN.
https://youtu.be/voPm-QiHmZs
The only thing I can think of she will do is Aki's kalimba ASMR but with unlincensed songs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9085338
They'll all comfortably beat Lain so they'll be fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9085110
>iirc
I'm on mobile and at work, so I can't go to holostats for a quick search.

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>>9085384
1 AM EST, not sure what she was thinking with the time slot unless she was actively trying to avoid overlapping with Kronii.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9085384
if gura ends maybe
i dont agree with this "lets all change timeslots" strategy but we will see.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9085384
No way. Her audio is bad and the timeslot sucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9085290
T. insecure chumpedo
>>9085338
T. coping nijinigger

[Anonymous No.]

I think Kronii's now hit stable 11k numbers, now looking to see if she can make the gradual climb to 12k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9085435
I wouldn't count on Sana doing that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9085547
also she is streaming a gamewhere most of the screen is just looking at a forzen city.
im impressed she is still holding this much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9085552
nigga have you seen lain current numbers?

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>>9085338
Screenshoted, saved and kept for future mogging purposes. All of them getting 6-10k is the most optimistic outcome. 3k for a really debuffed game and timeslot is better than a new nijichick playing apex.

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>>9085486
Gen 1 already proved that jumping timeslots was a stupid idea. Just stream in a spot you're comfortable with and the audience will follow and grow around you.

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>>9085668
Is there any problem with her or is there just not room anymore in Nijisanji for females?

[Anonymous No.]

Gen2 needs the right time slots for each, then never changing them.

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>>9085597
She is talking more today

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>>9085794
If I recall, she got some hate for “changing her voice” from debut to now.

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>>9085746
IRyS had already shown this already, she played a lot of buffed games on all timeslots yet her numbers doesn't really match up to well. They don't need to do schedules, just do as Pekora or Ina do. Stream in a timeslot consistently and your viewers will follow you.

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>>9085794
50/50
she neevr stood out and went back on many of her original keyfab

[Anonymous No.]

>>9085668
Yes, she can get 5k+ with the right game. Sana will struggle to reach 3k in a month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9085909
>went back on many of her original keyfab
was there any? outside of changing voice

[Anonymous No.]

>>9085597
Her voice is carrying it, the question is how long until they got bored of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9085746
Holomem do that to reach more people over different timezones, they lose on average CCV but improves the size of the viewer base

[Anonymous No.]

>>9086021
>Her voice is carrying it
and personality

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>>9085817
If I was the manager I would tell Sana to either pick late night EST or JP time. Same with Bae. Mumei stream at like noon-2. Ceres at 5/6 is decent for her. Kronii does good enough to hang in the evening spot, even if Gura is streaming.

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>>9085949
firist it needs to happen but until then is just you being delusional

[Anonymous No.]

>>9085949
1ks already, that's pretty ominous. Seems destined to fall down into the pack of deadweight JP Nijis.

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>>9085384
Mori is too dorky to do a proper ASMR.
Kiara and Ina don't do ASMR.
Gura is too shy to do a proper ASMR.
Ame gave up.
IRyS is a noob.
ASMR is something that EN is lacking, and Fauna seems to have the drive and time to expertise herself into this field. I think it can get at least 10k. If she applies the feedback that she got from last ASMR stream, she'll gain more dedicated ASMR followers. She could try to be the EN Patra.

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>>9086168
>1ks
is she even good in Apex?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9086062
No it doesn't. Kiara already fucked around with this to absolute abysmal effect. Mori too. They both eventually stopped because it was pointless. If they aren't comfortable streaming in that timezone and aren't willing to consistently there's no point in trying to cultivate an audience there. If those people were capable in the morning and afternoon they already would, but they're not gonna follow if it's a bad time for them.

[Anonymous No.]

Seems no one has mentioned it but Gura's now dropped by 1k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9086301
If she was good I would assume people would watch her. Given that she's in Nijisanji and only 1k watch her play Apex I have to conclude that she's absolute dogshit at it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9086097
Sana’s next stream is at 4am PDT, which so far is her worst time slot for live views out of all of her streams, based on her last stream at that time. I assume she will figure it out the hard way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9086413
Is even worse since it is a followup of her vholoscope stream
She wont be speaking japanese.Not sure why she went and do it.

[Anonymous No.]

Do these tags affect CCV? Cuz that a lot of tags compare to Baelz who got no tag at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9086605
nah

[Anonymous No.]

>>9086168
Like Matsuri and other holos, she gets shit views on APEX because she's bad at it + her fans probably don't like it. There's already Kuzuha, his buddies, Lareun, Axia, etc to give you the APEX fix in Niji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9086182
Cursed ASMR was peak autism for Mori

[Anonymous No.]

>>9086311
Sims gameplay isn't that much interesting as characters creation. That's why Sims only got good numbers for the first stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9086581
Well Sana’s highest viewed stream was at 8pm PDT. That would make the most rational sense for a time slot. But yeah JP don’t watch her, so trying to get them is bound to fail.

[Anonymous No.]

Irys will start soon.
While I think she will not take any CCV from Gura or Kronii, what are your predictions?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9086413
Probably trying to see how many AU would still watch her after the first week. She has AU accent and 4 am PDT is a decent time slot for AU.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9086605
I think the tags are like a superstition. No one knows if they actually do anything but it can't hurt to try.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9086717
do lauren and axia get views in apex anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>9086605
I'm sure Uto knows the answer to that

[Anonymous No.]

>>9086738
ENs have not been playing MC for a while, I think she will get decent views. I'm gonna switch from Kronii in a few to watch her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9086605
It can affect after stream recommendations.

[Anonymous No.]

What’s best time slot for Rat in terms of live viewers? Might want to factor JP in too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9086738
none will lose even 1k

[Anonymous No.]

>>9086784
At best 5k
They aren't even good at it compared to Selen.
It seems Anycolor tried to create another Kuzuha with them: Charisma over skill on Apex, but it did not work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9086717
Matsuri's actually really good at Apex now.
Her team won the Niji Apex tournament and she took her team to 3rd place last tournament.
Pros praise her as the best in terms of communication of all vtubers.
But none of that matters, because yes, her fans either don't like Apex, or are still bitter at her for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9086738
Gura will lose 0.5-1k viewers and Kronii 1.0-1.5k

[Anonymous No.]

>>9084668
Edengumi debut buff numbers
>debut date July 22nd, July 22 - 31 (JST)
>median (number of streams)

>Leos 25,537 (10)
>Lauren 21,218 (9)
>Lain 18,302 (9)
>Axia 13,586 (11)
>Oliver 9,043 (8)

>august median views (number of streams)

>Leos 9,617 (26) (-15,920)
>Lauren 6,493 (30) (-14,725)
>Axia 5,422 (28) (-8,164)
>Lain 4,732 (30) (-13,570)
>Oliver 3, 519 (22) (-5,524)

sub 10k... How do we save edengumi bros?

[Anonymous No.]

REFLECT:
10.5 hr 1M / 11.5 hr approx. 1.08M / 24 hr 1.54 M
KING:
11.5 hr 1M / 24 hr 1.41M
Gura had a short break after REFLECT released, may boosted the views

[Anonymous No.]

>>9086871
7-10 EST

Not an awful time for burgers but still realistic for JPs to watch if they want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9086871
i tink she is well liked with Jps she streamed a littl before Jp time was fine.
First week slots were fine except sana should stream at the time Irys do rather tahn overlap gura.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9086871
Unironically JP primer time.
However, her recent Bayonetta stream is the longest any of the Council has ever done yet.
Maybe is a sign for endurance stream she will go on early jst timeslot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9086784
Lauren got 6.2k on Valorant a few days ago and he was overlapping with the APEX tourney both times he played APEX in this pic, so I assume his views are still decent. Must be in the 7-9k range.

>>9086909
Lauren is a pred, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9086909
isnt 1 of them Predator?
to be honest i was kinda disapointed by Pred girl Selen played with yesterday.

[Anonymous No.]

About pretty numbers,
have we ever seen a full sequential decline before, through all 5 slots like Baelz just had?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9087077
>On that potato PC she used for his post debut stream
t. nijinigger cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>9086871
JP primetime, she'll get those viewers who want to watch an EN stream at that time instead of JP and maybe some JPs who want something different..

[Anonymous No.]

>>9086917
i mean, she wasnt FPS streamer from the start, so i can understand her viewerbase

[Anonymous No.]

>>9086909
I know you're shitposting but Lauren still get higher peaks on his apex streams and he does it often. Axia plays the game like once every 2 weeks, of course apex autists aren't going to watch someone who doesn't play frequently even if he's decent at it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9087192
Yeah I would be annoyed if Ina or Kiara suddenly started doing nothing but FPS. But I wouldn't keep watching them and just be mad about it, I would stop watching and move on. Matsuri's fans are kind of asshole. Keep watching and criticizing someone they don't even like anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9087100
Selen already said she will not focus only on Apex because she doesn't want to be known to only play Apex despite being a buff for her.
She is like an EN Botan who only want to have fun with any game she wants without worries.

[Anonymous No.]

Well Gura just ended, now wonder to see how many of those will flock over to Kronii.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9086871
Like many Aussie streamers out there the best timeslot is Aussie afternoon time basically after IRyS. pic related UTC+10 aussie streamer ash_on_lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>9087405
Botan was a lot more financially secure going into the whole thing, and being a Holo guarantees numbers anyway even if she just wants to fuck around doing random stuff every day. Not sure Selen has that luxury. Obviously she got by on much much less for years before, so who knows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9087405
>Selen already said she will not focus only on Apex because she doesn't want to be known to only play Apex despite being a buff for her.
every fucking collab this week and next one will be apex.She knows, and amangement knows apex is the only thing that pushes her.
Even if she doesnt want to be know for apex she knows that is the main thing she has going for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9087405
i didnt talked about Selen, but about Qu (pred girl) who played with her.
>Selen will not focus only on Apex
w8 till next tourny, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>9087434
Most chumbuds only watch Gura. I bet IRyS gets most of the remaining ones. Something like Kronii is playing won't appeal to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9087100
Are you talking about Qu?
Didn't see it, so i assume she must have been off her game
She was top kills and dmg at the first ApexVtuber tournament i saw her in and has still been praised since, though she wasn't in the summer big tournaments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7_b3reY-io

[Anonymous No.]

>>9087585
>She is currently playing Starcarft despite being a debuff for her: https://youtu.be/qi7c0MPbrTA
Apextard, i know it hurts but even pro apex players are getting tired of Apex, even more with the recent updates that nerf PC players.

[Anonymous No.]

Final numbers
Gura 16.1k
Kronii 11.1k

Not bad for Kronii

[Anonymous No.]

>>9087580
>Not sure Selen has that luxury.
she doesnt, from her own words

[Anonymous No.]

>>9087122
Rrat...

[Anonymous No.]

>>9087376
Nah they don't tune in for her Apex usually but will appear in other streams. Matsuri's Apex are usually around 1k, maybe even lower, then in her other streams she can get to 2-5k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9087791
Gura peaked at 19k
Kronii peaks seems to be 11k

[Anonymous No.]

>>9087787
Yeah and guess what her next collab will be with a niji?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9087585
she played non Apex game during at least 2 collabs last weeek

[Anonymous No.]

>>9087405
She's already known as the Apex girl because that's the only thing that gets her high numbers. NijiEN fans bragging that she was a godlike Apex player doesn't help her either with her image problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9087753
Kronii +800
Irys +300

[Anonymous No.]

>>9087787
This season has been a shitshow with the new legend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9087776
>Are you talking about Qu?
yes, i didnt watch her pov, but wasn't impressed by her impact during collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9087985
Impossible to calculate how many went to IRyS since she just started.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9087787
>Apextard
this is numbers thread, moron, and her Numbers(1.3k) hurt my heart

[Anonymous No.]

>>9087920
This
>>9087941
Should I be surprised or not that there are Apextards on the numbers thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>9087434
Kronii got 700-800 viewers from Gura and that's it. Can't say much about Irys because she just started the stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9088054
Just like the last season with the Bow and arena.

[Anonymous No.]

>>9088054
>new legend.
and weapons balance

[Anonymous No.]

>>9088132
>Impossible to calculate how many went to IRyS
posible if she streamed for an hour

[Anonymous No.]

Kronii steadily rising again, dunno if that might have to do with her suddenly saying a few spanish words though.

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>>9088202
i mean, did you hear about Kuzuha?

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>>9088311
Bow got nerfed pretty quickly, I think a week after release? Honestly the fastest I've seen them change something.

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>Kronii speak spanish
>Numbers went up for a bit
Everytime
T.tacohablante

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>>9088620
>+100
>Numbers went up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>9088514
>APEX
APEX
>APEX
APEX
>APEX
APEX

I LOVE APEX LEGENDS

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>>9087100
so when is she going to play ranked games? If shes a pred before climbing up will be easy. alot of twitch females already did this season.

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>>9087580
for what it's worth, botan also managed to carve out a pretty cool identity for herself by sticking to those weird games and building connections in minecraft. botan kusoge streams are how I know it's time for the weekend.

selen can probably build something similar for herself, and like Botan she's starting off with the best position among her genmates, so she has some room to play with.

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Consistent timeslot is really key, irys maintains her numbers by just being consistent every stream, baelz really kills herself with her streaming time all over the place, sometimes i wish there is a numberfag in the manager position to give advice.

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>>9088728
T.greengo

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>>9088095
Ok, looking through these, gameplay wise, Qu had some very nice solo plays whenever they split up, even took out 3 guys in a row with that shit small pistol. So you can only see them on her pov.
To keep this numbers related - 1 match stats:
Selene - 4/0/5 - 1231 dmg
Qu - 7/5/8 - 2247 dmg
Pochi - 2/2/2 - 617 dmg
She knows her stuff, but they were mostly just fucking around in Silver unless they met some pub stompers. Looks like they intentionally let Pochi solo sometimes. Mostly for fun game. EN being her 3rd or 4th language might have been a detriment too.

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>>9088728
Actually it was closer to 300, I think she almost cracked 12k with that short boost.

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>>9088806
>so when is she going to play ranked games?
are you talking about Selen?
she will get diamond(for tourney purposes) and stop playing rank, by her own words

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>>9088899
so a season 10 diamond 4 does better than "ex-pred". Is she one of those smurfing "ex-global elite" pubstomping silver/nova because she cant handle global elite matchmaking? kek

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>>9089164
selen posters don't actually know anything about apex (which is why selen is the best player they've ever seen) so how would they be able to answer you

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>>9088822
>Botan
she had same huge buff EN girls had, so she could choose any niche she wanted

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>>9089164
Apex gibberish. Shoot people with gun = good.

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>>9088899
btw im not shitting on her just compare it to collab with nijiID boy. they were mostly just fucking around, too

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>>9089234
They were impressed that she curb stomped a bunch of newbies on debut week and assume she's a god.

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>>9089459
she is good and i'm hoping for her participation in tournaments.
but she is not this exceptional being some anons say she is, nor is she the only fun/interesting apex streamer. weird because Lauren also reached predator in a past life and showed some nice gameplay so far but nobody is flexing his skills on here. probably language barrier.

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>>9089666
Isn't she literally the best English speaking female vtuber for Apex?

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>>9089666
Lauren is really good apex player tbf (currently diamond rank). I was watching his valorant stream and he knows his shit too.

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>>9089666
>nobody is flexing his skills on here.
mb because it is numbers thread?

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The clock holding 11k viewers playing that shitty boring ass kusoge.

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>>9089745
even Selen never said this stuff about herself, and she is cocky1 btw

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>>9089907
she's so overhyped. I don't see the appeal.

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>>9089907
>>9089937
stop answering (you)rself

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>>9089745
well if you narrow down the categories like this you're right. i never said she sucked i had fun watching her she's just overly gassed up.
>>9089778
i like watching him play. i've heard he used to play overwatch, too but i'm not expecting him to stream it for now.

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>>9089914
I'm saying it. Who is better than her? Hell, who is even halfway decent? Ame, who barely, plays, is rusty as shit, and gets triggered too easily to take it seriously?

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>>9089348
That was a really different experience though.
Selene and Bon are Bromos at this point, they have the same humor and appreciation for the game.
Here we had a EN, JP and TH who almost never even talked before trying to get by in english.

This conversation is getting a bit to off topic but just want to add
>>9089666
It's more that Selene is the only one that made Apex funs for EoPs. She has a way of explaining things that the JPs or other Apex vtubers players don't. Plus, going from Bronze first helped the viewer through like a tutorial.
Lauren just plays well, which is nice for FPS nerds but super boring otherwise.
EN viewers mostly don't care about Apex. They like watching Selene and know she's good enough to at least hang with the big players, so they troll these and Apex threads with the few thing they know.

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>>9090134
>for EOPs
ah ok

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Clock peaked at 11k
Unless Fauna gives a surprise on numbers later on she is the strong card of EN2 for now.

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>>9090243
Irys also getting 7k+ today and rising. She getting better and better.

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>>9090243
i bet Fauna can peak higher(mb12k), but this is it

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>>9090243
fauna has the best long term potential. Because she's smart. Bet on brains

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Kronii ends her stream....
And IRyS instantly gets 1k+ viewers.

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dont forget: Lamy and Bota have outfit reveal streams today

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>>9089234
I've argued with a Selen fan in a numbers thread before who said Selen's Apex talent is an extremely valuable asset and she (in her current casual state) is better than Gorilla, Hal, Kamito, Lauren, Bora ...etc.
It's pretty crazy.

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>>9090134
Lauren wouldn't get that much money and clips far after his debut if he was really boring, anon. Most people on this site are EOPs anyway.

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>>9090554
prediction? Lamy and Botan are the most popular gen 5 members.

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>>9090023
Dumpster-dive in the sea of Indies. There's better singers than Gura and Mori, better FPS players than Ame, better entertainer than Kiara but every opinion is subjective. Not everything is about numbers, it's just those guys didn't have the opportunity for their talents to be brought into the world. It's because of the selen character that she was seen as a good apex streamer.

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>>9090554
40k+ for both

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>>9090568
Yet she doesn't want to take advantage of it. What's the point in an asset that you're not going to use?
>b-but she doesn't want a Vtuber career of just being the Apex girl
Kuzuha and Hal built a career of being the Apex autists and are the biggest male Vtubers in Japan. Selen has no valid excuse

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>>9090554
They changed the outfit stream format.
It's only 30m long now instead of an hour.

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>>9090554
>>9090642
Hard to predict peaks for Gen 5 recently since Polka has been underperforming even average predictions these days.

Botan and Lamy should easily be above 60k, but idk about peak.

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>>9090568
>>9090713
best apex player higher than pred better than kuzuhachannel better than shibuya hal better than koreans better than god and jesus and buddha and

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>>9090676
Maybe, maybe not. It's all theoretical until someone can find this person. You can't watch someone you don't know exists. Skill in a game is pretty objective, especially one that's entire purpose is to attain higher rankings.

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>>9090642
Pretty much what >>9090693 said 40k+
They're both just 30 min long, when the biggest outfit reveal numbers come around 45m in
it's a weekday
not that much hype build around it, especially compared to fashion week, or Ayame's Hologra+King promos
They only had Lamy's 800k and a Hollywood sign Minecraft stream.
Polka's outfit reveal might have been a detriment too.

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IRyS is taking a break when she almost hits 9k. Damn it, IRyS.

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>>9090642
>>9090693
>prediction
as this anon said>>9090734
both of them will have only 30 min this could cut potential peak number, atleast for Botan.
But since this is relay Lamy can peak pretty high.
i ll say
>Botan 35K
>Lamy 43k

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>>9090676
>there are better singers than Gura and Mori
But Gura was never hired because for her singing (she has stated she has never sung during auditions), she was hired for her experience in content creation.
Mori (despite what your opinion on her "music" is) is an almost complete musical package: song writing, music production, "singing/rapping", connections with the music industry. If you were Cover, you'd be stupid to not hire her.

I can agree if you said they should have looked for better talent for a VSinger though; I like IRyS but I'm pretty sure there are better choices out there

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>>9090554
If ID2 outfit relay can get 50k for Ollie, then Botan and Lamy can get 50k+.

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>>9090713
>in Japan
There's your answer.
Go browse Twitch and Apex, the whole category only has 47k viewers, top of which is Japanese.
Apex is bigger in Japan than the whole rest of the world combined.
Selene doesn't speak Japanese.
She knows her audience and that they'll get tired of Apex again at some point.

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>>9090977
>Mori
>Cover, you'd be stupid to not hire her.
by her own word, Cover they almost declined her

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>>9089745
>>9090023
>Isn't she literally the best English speaking female vtuber for Apex?
This is a pretty pointless question because right now, Selen is not predator level, so all it takes for her to lose this title is for one of the dozen female preds that stream on twitch to switch to vtubing.

>Hell, who is even halfway decent? Ame
No one will say Ame is better than Selen ofc in Apex, but skill in Apex doesn't always translate to making it entertaining. Matsuri is probably the current best Apex player in Hololive, but her numbers for it are worse than Nene, Suisei, and even Korone.

At the end of the day, Selen + Apex works because her streams of it are entertaining to watch, not just because she's good at the game. There's literally hundreds of streamers better than her at the same game if people just wanted to see who can click on the most heads.

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>>9091120
For lack of experience in streaming probably, sure.
Spring 2020 was a different time and they probably didn't think someone talented in other fields could fit the Vtuber streamer mold.

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>>9090713
>Selen has no valid excuse
Like she needs an excuse for not playing Apex almost every day
Most people aren't willing to fuck her mental health for numbers

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this>>9091062
EOPs like FPS games, but not Apex. most of them watch Apex streams out of desperation

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>>9091232
Kuzuha and Hal's mental health seem fine. She can take a break.

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>>9091227
i'm pretty much sure Cover was almost turned off by her personality. she was a risky pick

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>>9091277
kuzuha is an outlier and a video game addict powered by raw autism. if he likes the game he can go 12+ hours in a single sitting, sleep, then wake up and do it again. he isn't an example to follow.

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>>9091369
>he isn't an example to follow
poor Aqua..

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>>9091157
It doesn't matter until one of them actually pulls the trigger and does it. And even then, if they're on twitch, they're just recycling their existing audience. Right now, for people in the English speaking vtuber ecosystem, she is the best Apex player they know, hands down.

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>>9090713
Apex is bigger in Japan than any other country in the world, eventho the best players are actually not Japanese.
It's kinda tied with Valorant in terms of popularity in the west so it's not exactly the Holy Grail for Selen as it is for JP vtubers.

>Kuzuha and Hal built a career of being the Apex autists and are the biggest male Vtubers in Japan.
Kuzuha was popular well before being an Apex spammer, he just wasn't the numbers monster he is today.

>Selen has no valid excuse
Selen's excuse can just be she doesn't want to. Numbers don't reflect the reality of streaming. She's never going to be the biggest vtuber in the west with Apex anyways since no one is reaching Gura's subcount and popularity for years.

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>>9091420
>Right now, for people in the English speaking vtuber ecosystem, she is the best Apex player they know, hands down.
Okay, but who cares? You're greatly overestimating the size of the EN audience looking specifically for a good Apex female EN vtuber.

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>>9091277
>Kuzuha and Hal's mental health seem fine
So what? Just let Selen play what she wants to, she is not a numberfag like us

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>>9091619
The guy I was replying to said she isn't the only fun or interesting Apex streamer. The point is, for English speakers, she kind of is.

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>>9090713
Well they’re gonna pump out waves every 2-3 months so what does it matter anyways.

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>>9090642
Probably 35k-40k for both

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>>9091772
>only fun or interesting Apex streamer
>The point is, for English speakers, she kind of is.
Ame's Apex numbers destroy Selen's despite being way worse at the game.
HoloID plays a lot of Apex too and they speak english 95% of the time.

Fun and interesting =/= good at the game. Nene gets some of the best Apex numbers in Hololive and her Apex streams are literally "Do 1000 dmg" challenges.

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>irys with more viewers than kanata and towa
Huh, interesting

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>>9091936
Apex always underperformed for Ame

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Posting some numbers again
Matsuri/Rikka Hakujitsu passed 5 million, her first video to do so.

Her cover numbers have been reclining this month, only the Sorairo Days cover regularly passing 60k views a week now, when she used to have 3-4 with 70k+ for many months.

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>>9091960
Mid afternoon and they're splitting views. Surprised Towa and Kanata are so close though, didn't Towa used to be a runt because of her yab early on? Maybe people just got over it eventually.

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3.5k already waiting for Fauna
Kronii peaked at 4.5k waiting

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>>9092042
She's worked her way out from her yab with time + effort, and the JP fanbase does appear to have given her another chance yea.
I can't say if Matsuri will be able to do the same if she chooses to minimize her Apex, but honestly seeing as to the type of person she is...I really, really do not expect to see a Matsuri with good numbers any time soon.

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>>9091987
Power of shark. Eventually it will be her #1.

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>>9091983
They do better than her nitendo games.

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>>9092042
Minecraft and karaoke towa is pure towa while apex towa is whore towa pls understand

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>>9092104
>Festival
>lessening apex hours

[Anonymous No.]

Kanata set fire to a house and might be catching up to Iris with it.

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>>9091636
This might be hard to understand, but some people want her to be more successful. And if being an Apex Autist is going to bring that success, then she should. If she just wanted to wallow in mediocrity, then she should have stayed as an indie and given her slot to someone who actually gives a shit

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>>9092174
Why has she done this?

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Speaking of Towa, do you think she'll get decent views for her collab with rpr today? Apparently him becoming a kenzoku was a pretty big deal with Japanese APEX fags.

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>>9092174
Nvm, irys living with 0.5 health attracted 8.2k viewers waiting to see if she accidentally dies.

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>>9092227
i tink she will get her usual 4k-5k

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>>9092212
>I would do anything to live in this world[Amane Kanata]

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IRyS dropping bas Fauna's stream is getting closer