/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

The savior of NijiEN. Everyone worships him.

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>>89744685
Something tells me this guy will be the November graduated liver. Like the big ass karaoke off collab hosting on his channel of all places seems "too eventful"

[Anonymous No.]

>Inb4 graduation

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>>89744685
Why is it that him and Doppio are considered the “decent” male ones?

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>>89745028
Because the girls lust after him instead of the other way around.

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>>89744934
Nah. He's not a bad guy apparently, but has been love-bombed recently by Evilwa, Voxucker and the rest of their gang, not counting the Millle blatantly dickriding him literally from the beginning. Plus he's generally out of drama, hate or any unwanted attention, so even less point for him to bail out anytime soon

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>>89744934
>the November graduated liver.
Anon, that was Vivi...

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>>89744685
he seems genuinely nice, I wouldn't be surprised if he graduates soon

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i'm a bored holochad so I'll bite, does he atleast have a cool name like the white vampire? Can he be the next vampire? We really need some competition back here

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>>89746311
Dawg that was October and it was a "predictable" one. The next one will be "unpredictable" and the announcement should come out this week

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>>89744934
No that was just a mandatory ritual to officially join the clique

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>>89747262
>still believing everything randoms post here

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>>89747158
His name is Vantacrow Bringer

[Anonymous No.]

Only seen him through Toma, but he seems way more normal than the others. Still a bit too horny going by some of the crazy shit he's done around her but I was surprised how much I was enjoying a nijien stream, let alone a male one, circa 2024.
I remember hearing a lot of people mention talking to him during twitchcon, so if ever he gets kicked out for some reason, it wouldn't be hard at all for him to pivot back.

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>>89744934
nah. uki, finana, millie, and kotoka are the candidate for next graduation. expect the news on early december

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>>89745929
Yeah because they want his dick unironically.

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>>89747732
>>89747670
hi there ennacuck

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>>89744685
>The savior of NijiEN
>Jobs to le hate marketing pinoy
It was never so over for nijisanji

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>>89747779
Anon, that's not on his channel.
That said, it's not like it would've done much better on his channel anyways. His numbers are leaps and bounds over his branchmates, but that doesn't mean they're better than even holostars by a significant margin.

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>>89747158
Does holo have good male talents, actually? I know the controversy a bit, but it feels like the only male vtubers I see talked about in a good light are indies or Kuro

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>>89747584
kek,

>>89747822
I literally don't care about our homos, they can all die a deserved death. I'm only concerned about niji that can hit 5 digits

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>>89747867(me)
by care, I mean I will only start shitting on them if they start to become an actual threat. except for this guy, >>89747584

he already has it rough with his name kek

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>>89744685
They want the BBC

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>>89747822
Gavis Bettel is the go-to for being entertaining and genuinely funny enough to foster a male fanbase, too. His numbers end up eclipsing even some of the lower end girls for good reason. His old account was an old school youtuber, so he brings a lot of that energy.
Banzoin Hakka's an amazing singer. He pumps out covers like crazy and many of them I'd say are better than the original songs. His metal covers and rock song karaokes are great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJrdeakOJAg
Crimzon Ruze I hear is similar to Bettel and also gets similar numbers to him, but I haven't given him much of a chance.
Jurard, as much as he's clowned on here, is actually pretty entertaining as well in collabs. He likes playing the heel, which is a big part of why /vt/ hates him.
All of the rest are kind of boring, as much as I respect Axel and Altare for how they handled the Selen stuff, they're just boring.

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>>89748197
Oh hey, I've seen that Bettel guy before. He does seem fun, thanks for the info.

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>>89748449
Yeah, I recommend checking out some of the streams with his twin brother. They play off each other very well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXoIGYsKci4
His 3D showcase was a fucking fever dream, too. The guy plays up the clown character extremely, extremely well, and I've often chosen to watch his streams over the girls if it sounds silly enough.

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>>89745929
I mean it's not like all the organs that left were deeply involved in drama you have both heavy hitters and nobodies fucking off

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>>89748197
>bettel
>bigger than any of the girls
>male fanbase with this gay faggot model

sister please (unless you brag about beating low tier ID members sometimes and even that boils down to content choices and this dude barely streaming which increases the FOMO factor for his audience.

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>>89749580
Just because your dick shrivels up any time you hear a man's name doesn't mean they're all doing poorly.

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>>89744685
POC people tend to be worships by libtard (NijijsanjiEN).

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>>89745763
He has been pretty open about cooming over the female members like Klara, Meloco, Petra, Elira, Aia , etc.

You don't know this because you don't watch streams. He's the most sexpest male in the branch and is open about it

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>>89748197
Bettel is burnt out and lazy and drags his brother on stream more than collabing with any of the boys.
Octavio is by far the best singer, and maybe the best singer in stars in general.
Ruze is great, very ambitious binging the boys together for collabs and a huge ttrpg project over the last year.

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>>89744934
Niji is giving him everything he wants and trying to push him because he's the only male thats growing (and Meroco for females), and has a completely clean rap sheet. Would be odd for him to leave.

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>>89752535
Wasn't he talking to some indie about how she didn't wanna do a handcam stream cuz she was cleaning and it'd be aimed at her chest for half the time, and he said he wouldn't mind cuz she has a good rack? That's the farthest I've seen him go though

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>>89753384
>has a completely clean rap sheet
he constantly battles with his chat and gets frustrated with them, he's blown up on them like 5 times and even done a blackscreen stream on them

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>>89753734
the thing is his brainrotted nijisister chat is in the wrong, he'd unironically be happier in stars

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>>89753283
Ruze is a shame to me because i honestly think i'd love him if his voice was different. i cant stand the voice but i applaud his ambition and hardworking tendencies at least

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>>89754061
more for me, I love his gritty voice

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>>89753652
During Klara's debut, he started talking about how hot her voice was during the watch along stream.

He was blatantly talking about how hot Meloco was in her new outfit, her boobs and said that it fit her really well

During a collab with Wilson, Wilson started talking about how Petra started calling him a dog during a collab then Vanta said "I wish that were me"

There are a couple times where he just talks about how horny he is or about cock to Elira

During Aia's birthday stream, he said he was only staying so he could keep looking at Aia's boobs

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>>89754206
I sometimes wonder how much of that is just what they cultivated, and how much of it is them being told "Yeah, play up the bad boy side". He seems really talented but that shit gets tiring

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>>89753815
He abruptly stopped an entire stream because a single person in his chat called him a pussy

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>>89754727
oh wow

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>>89754688
I don't think Klara cultivated anything, it was her debut and Vanta still couldn't help but talk about how horny he was for her

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>>89754833
He keeps bringing up incest with Twisty too

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>>89754206
the last one doesn't count because Aia was the one who told him to stay by showing him her boobs, she did it first

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>>89754998
No, Aia just started showing titty to see if she would get demonitized and Vanta started talking about how turned he was by them

https://youtu.be/b-r2O8zi4OU?si=yqhUksmHWpsJQrS-

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In his recent streams Vanta has been talking about hitting on maid cafe workers and asking them back to his place, saying that he would often do similar things in America on various dating apps.
Then he started talking about how hot women are in general and how much he loves hot women.

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>name is fantacrow burger

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>>89755125
>No, Aia just started showing titty to see if she would get demonitized
Yes, that is what she does, if this was not an out of context clip, you would see what I was saying.

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>>89755347
Maybe the sex pest should stop being aroused by his female coworkers? that's just creepy

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>>89755610
I'm sorry you can't understand english, you'll grasp the language one day

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>>89755610
>No argument
I accept your concession

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>>89755610
Maybe Aia should stop showing so much titty is she doesn’t want men to get aroused.

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>>89755347
I went back to the full VOD and the conversation before that clip started was about Aia's accent. The reason she put her boobs on screen was because Reimu started talking about him. Vanta was the one who started going full sexpest

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>>89755946
At some point one of the girls will complain. Maybe they feel uncomfortable complaining because he's popular in the company and they don't want to make things unpleasant.

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>>89755914
Every other guy there didn't start sexpesting though

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>>89755946
>>89756024
>Aia puts boobs on screen
>Vanta is the villain for talking about it.
What kind of woman mentality is this?

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>>89754833
No I mean, what niji cultivated. With so many of the guys, and I guess even some of the girls, being like that, figured that maybe that's what the company thought sells for EN. I don't watch much JP but they seem a lot more normal

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>>89756074
It's not just an isolated incident though. He's been hitting on a lot of the girls.

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I can only only presume that the board thinks Vanta isn't a sexpest because he's relatively new, they don't watch him and they have other targets to go after

[Anonymous No.]

When did we start being meek little SJW faggots who cares about muh women?

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>>89749580
Anon...I...

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>>89756074
There's talking about it and there's cumming all over the place because of it. Wilson and Fulgur reacted like normal. Only Vanta started slobbering over her

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>>89744685
this nigga is the real sex pest. he make 2022 luca looks like an innocent kid

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>>89756024
I think they're just used to it now and just learn to shrug it off or play along to appease him

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>>89756199
I know this is bait but for the tourists actually confused: /vt/ has insane female numbers

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>>89756231
this

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>>89744685

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>>89756112
and how many of these “incidents” are caused by him and him alone? Are they entirely unprovoked?

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>>89756231
He came on his screen? Is there proof of this? This could blow the whole lid on the western vtuber sphere! Holy Fucking Shit!
Wait, there's no proof?

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>>89756345
How's Elira doing, by the way? Has she just been powering through?

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>>89754206
A lot of that was not true pre-2024 since I watched him before the fiasco from time to time as a former Niji watcher, he was really clean. However, not surprised that it would be the latter part of >>89754688 since the audience started leaving in droves and even he had no choice but to do that. Sad to see even him getting to the point he had to do that along with the whole stream he had to do about changing the rules and etc.

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>>89756445
Pretending nothing is wrong. As if to show off "hehe nothing affected me in the end, you lose".

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>>89756574
How is she supposed to react to losing a large chuck of her fan base?

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>>89756482
what are you talking about? this guy has openly lusted the other female friends since the first month of his debut.

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>chuck of her fan base

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>>89756574
Used to watch her a bit since I was big into Selen. You reap what you sow but can't imagine she would be happy. Do the other talents seem close to her at least? I know the guys manage to sttill be friends or help out, but no clue if she's just stuck with the sisters or not

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>>89756888
She's not just happy, she's defiant. She's constantly showing off how many friends she has in the company and how many benefits the company is pouring on her. Every day she's on another poster or headlining another event. She's super smug and loves to brag about all the trips she's taking with the other members. She constantly has males backing her and following her around VC, or lurking in her chat with witty comments.

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>>89756888
She's been happy it seems, she was in that play actor theatre thing and everyone sounded happy

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>>89756404
If everywhere you go smells like shit, you are likely the problem and not everyone else.

If every collab he joins ends up as a discussion about his dick and the girl's breasts, he is likely the problem

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>>89757072
>how dare she try to happy and find ways to entertain her fans!
>she should be miserable and depressed on stream!
All I’m hearing from you is how sad and pathetic your own life is.

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>>89757310
awfully feminist of you. I hope you voted for the green party!

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>>89757072
The funny thing about this is that it can also apply to Doki pretty accurately
>constantly collabing with friends
>always a headliner or a part of some event
>surrounded by other male streamers

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>>89757627
Look at Elira's twitter, all of her recent posts are about Vanta. She is fucking obsessed. Doki never did anything like that

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>>89757627
doki never did something like this>>89756345

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>>89749580
He's not bigger than any of the girls, but he undoubtedly has enough of a male fanbase for them to be known among the Betellion. It likely isn't majority, but could be as high as 40%. Being actually entertaining and previously having a dudebro GMOD audience helps.

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>>89757366
I'm confused because I thought that anon was a niji fan talking about how she's happy since she doesn't care, or something.
>>89757072
>>89757180
Guess when she's in this deep, she might as well make the most out of it.

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>>89757779
>Look at Doki's twitter, all of her recent posts are about Mint. She is fucking obsessed.

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>>89757948
They're advertising a concert in less than a month.

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>>89757779
>>89757843
Never said she did, just pointing out how >>89757072 can kind of apply to both of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>Vantacrow Bringer
who comes up with this shit

[Anonymous No.]

I mean, I am glad you guys had fun, but treating a karaoke event with 20k ccv as the second coming of Christ is a bit much.

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>>89757996
Elira uses the males like a "weapon" at her side. Like "look who I have in my corner", and always talks about them, spams events with them, gets them in her chat. It's like a status symbol for her.

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>>89758087
>>89757627
>>89757948

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>>89744685
>killed his career for his crush
>she dumped him for a black dude who sleeps in the same room as you every day
Imagine being vox akuma

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>>89757970
so you're saying context matters? Here is some context for you as well: Elira is talking to Vanta because they just had an off collab with NijiEN hosted on his channel a few days ago

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>>89758286
Elira is fucking obsessed with Vanta though. She's also offcollabed with the other guys and she hasn't been this way with them.

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>>89758389
>>89758250

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>>89758286
I wonder why that collab was on Vanta's channel, since Elira said she was the one who planned it all out. It looks like it was basically Elira's collab at the end of the day, but Vanta got to be the star for some reason. I think Elira herself decided this.

[Anonymous No.]

nijisanji is just full of weirdos

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>>89758426
This is misinformation. Yu Q Wilson was the one who planned it all out

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>>89758426
>>89758508
It was also sponsored so they probably get a say in which channel it is on

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>>89758426
even the dumbest person in this board know that vanta and elira are dating

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>>89758286
The difference in this case is exclusivity. It's all being done because doki and mint specifically are the two main stars of the concert that they're holding.
Elira has what, 30 other members she could talk with?
>>89758583
I wouldn't even go that far.
In fact, I don't really care or make any assumptions at all, other than that it's not comparable to Doki and Mint advertising a concert together by reposting fanart of themselves together.

Thenagain I don't watch either so who the fuck knows. Maybe they're married.

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>>89758551
Anon they just put the DAM thing in the description for legal reasons it doesn’t mean it’s sponsored

[Anonymous No.]

This guy sounds like a huge sex pest

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>>89753815
>implying stars chats aren't just as retarded
The only reason you don't hear about stars chats being bad is because the boys are too afraid to piss off 3 of their 5 only paypigs

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>>89747670
Finana just showed up on some Nijifes promo, it's safe to rule her out

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>>89756669
As much as I don't like current NijEN. that is not true and since you are asserting this claim specifically, clips/timestamps or fuck off. There's reasonable hatred and pure slandar for the sake of it for irrational hate.

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>>89758891
the clip with Aia was linked: >>89755125

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>>89758784
Every single one of them is included in at least some sort of art piece for it, it’s not happening any time soon
Is this what it will take for people here to realize False is full of shit or will he find some hand fisted explanation and fool everyone again

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>>89758583
I thought that was Vanta and Reimu

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>>89759049
Tbf, so were Selen and Pomu in a couple of conventions, only to be sloppily cropped out at the last minute

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>>89759169
nobody want to date someone like reimu

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>>89759279
Vox did.
She even met up with him secretly a few times, courtesy of the doxxsisters

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>>89758676
>Elira has what, 30 other members she could talk with?
You could make the argument that Vanta is the "main star" since it's his channel and Elira connecting herself to him was advertisement for herself and for that stream.
>doki and mint specifically are the two main stars
Why would Doki and Mint also not be talking with the others participants as much? They have 4 other people they can could talk with, no? I fully understand it's contradictory to what I said above but I want to show that your arguements can be used against both parties.

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>>89759279
Vox did, wasn't that the whole point of "PARASOCIAL FUCKS" from Finana?

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>>89759353
>You could make the argument that Vanta is the "main star"
Let's not forget the moment in the unarchived section. Vanta did a sexual song and ALL the girls started giggling and cheering like schoolgirls. Enna started repeating "he's just a colleague, remember he's just a colleague..." and joined the high pitched squeals. The other guys were strangely silent during that time

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>>89759308
>>89759451
they broke up and vox already became elira's biggest simp

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>>89759353
>Why would Doki and Mint also not be talking with the others participants as much? They have 4 other people they can could talk with, no? I fully understand it's contradictory to what I said above but I want to show that your arguements can be used against both parties.
Not necessarily. They're not front and center on any of the advertisements outside of their own announcements. It's specifically a FantomeThief concert, not a FantomeThief+Dooby+Phoebe+Juna+PiapiUFO concert. This is opposed to the branch being known as NijisanjiEN as a whole, which is not gathering Vanta or Elira for any specific reason or to make them into a unit.

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>>89753815
Actually true for any male vtuber in future.
Your best alternative for a corpo now is either Holostars or FPS

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>>89759664
>It's specifically a FantomeThief concert
That's a good point that I some how completely ignored. Not really sure why I started this argument to begin with but I'll concede here. Have a good one!

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>>89759220
Proof of Pomu? Selen was a sudden termination

[Anonymous No.]

He will get the Neuro/Vedal collab through Toma, trust the plan.

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>>89756284
yes for, male streamers. but that guy is wrong too, unicorns are huge misogynists incels but they'll make feminists-like arguments if they want to complaint about a guy. its all fake LARP anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do dokifans want everyone else to be miserable and sad and shit? You guys are really not making me have a good overview of you.

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>>89745028
Both of them you are able to watch without them having tons of weird Fujo pander moments or going on weird rants to make women feel good about bad habits they have. Also despite what everyone else is saying the fact that both of them particularly Vanta are very openly straight males who like women and think they are hot. People dont hate male vtubers because they collab with women what they really hate is a guy who acts effeminate in order to get close to girls or fakes being bi or nonbinary in order to make advances on women they that wont say no to out of fear of society being mad at them. People dont really hate male vtubers they hate beta males who abuse their clout or positions of power to get hook up with and hang around tons of women.

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>>89760293
>they hate beta males who abuse their clout or positions of power to get hook up with and hang around tons of women

That's Vanta though

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>>89759979
nta and I can't find the picture, but I remember seeing some image posted by Nijisanji that had Selen and Pomu with their waves prior to their departure get re-uploaded by Nijisanji but with Selen and Pomu removed and everything else about the image was identical, if that makes sense. So essentially instead of Selen and Pomu there was just 2 suspicious gaps in the artwork.

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>>89758426
Wilson set up the karaoke, retard

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>>89759046
>5 months ago
Man you fuckers can not read. No one is contesting he is one now. I am asking pre-2024, retard.

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>>89756258
It's fucking hilarious how Luca gets crucified for collabing with girls but Vanta does it more than him AND talks about how much he wants to fuck the girls but gets a free pass

It makes me believe that all the hate was from Pomudachi seething about getting cucked

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>>89760660
He came out the gate swinging by sexpesting Reimu with the
>I love latinas
thing non-stop

[Anonymous No.]

How's NijiEN sponsorship game going these past months?

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>>89760827
>I love latinas
I didn't know he was such a chad.

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>>89760458
You might be talking about the image on the front page of the website or whatever. Or maybe the picture of their key visuals at AX? That’s not the same thing as a promotional art piece made specifically for an upcoming event. I’m almost sure if they knew someone is graduating before Nijifes they would’ve already had the artists remove them from the art so they don’t have to deal with it after the graduation announcement

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>>89751570
Kek, Ame mogging both fucking dogs and the lazy Gura who can't even afford vodka anymore.

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>>89758676
Elira talked about Ryoma significantly more than Vanta and hasn't even collabed with him for a long time. You retards are just obsessed with projecting your cuckoldry with everyone else

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>>89761026
>Elira talked about Ryoma significantly more than Vanta
??????

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>>89760827
That was not a constant thing, that was a one time thing and was obviously a joke based on Pomu's quote. He even got the clip done with the help of a Pomudachi. In no way was it even close to a sexpest thing, it was a shitpost that he even took it down on the managers' request. Here, I'll even link a clip since you are unwilling to do so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k07u5bD8_Vo

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>>89760941
FOUND IT

It was for AR Live, but instead of making new artwork, they just removed the livers who left.

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>>89761303
Yeah that’s not the same thing. Pomu announced her graduation and already left before the next time the AR live poster was publicized, so it wasn’t a “misleading people into thinking a currently active member is going to in an upcoming event but they graduate before the event” situation, Pomu was already gone before the next time the AR live was announced

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>>89761213
How does that disprove it was a sexpest thing? He inserted himself into Pomu and Reimu's joke just so he can say that he wants to fuck latinas. You only dug yourself a deeper hole

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>>89761504
gotcha, I assumed it was what >>89759220 was talking about.

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>>89756482
>He had no choice but to become a sex pest

The amount of hoops some faggots will go through to defend him is insane. Do you want his BBC?

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>>89761531
Inserting yourself into a joke between opposite sexes isn't sexpesting, there are valid comedic reasons to do it for humor and NijiEN did it a lot if you even watched them which it seems you haven't. If you don't find it funny, fine, but there was practically no fallout from it, Reimu only timed him out and and Vanta's relationship with her was still fine coming to the end of 2024 and they had a couple of collabs after that the last I watched either of them.
Calling everything sexpesting for even an interaction like this is dumb and causes the word to lose all meaning just like rape.

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>>89747670
>uki
Lmao, hes prime clique
>millie
Same as above
>kotoka
Possible only because she just wants off the internet

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>>89762416
That would be true if Reimu didn't blatantly call him out for being a "fuckboy" in their last collab

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>>89761156
To be fair, Elira has talked about everyone else a lot more than Vanta and only started talking to him more because of the karaoke. I don't think she's even had a 1 on 1 collab with him

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>>89760669
Luca gets called a sexpest for collabing with Pomu but Vanta gets away scot-free with getting horny for all the girls in the company and trying to fuck maids

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>>89762701
I didn't know the relationship has deteriorated to that point and there is no contesting that he is now a sexpest per the common definition imposed on male Vtubers, but retroactively considering something like that to be a sexpest interaction because of things that happened now is dumb and I will push against moving the Overton window for things like this.

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>>89756445
Shes been doing okay. Shes focusing on her current fanbase now and tongue in cheek knows shes probably not gonna grow anymore. In memby streams she seems resentful of vox and enna for setting her up with the black screen stream since she was in mourning just before it and didnt actually know what was going on

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>>89763530
You think he just became a sexpest? He was always one

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>>89747779
>2433
just one more and it'd be the funny number.................................................................................................................................,

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>>89763094
Vanta gets away with it because most of the male audience (outside of maybe Rosemi and Scarle) already dropped NijiEN. So for someone like Elira, her fanbase is primarily women now, and they don't care about the males sexpesting the girls.

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>>89757072
>She's super smug and loves to brag about all the trips she's taking with the other members.
wasn't there and embezzlement rrat because of shit like this?

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>>89758254
>>killed his career for his crush
ike?

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>>89760439
He does fish for compliments by acting like he's pathetic. It's pretty weird

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>>89758007
The members choose their own names

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>>89757310
Apparently no one wondered why sex was always discussed around him and no one ever wondered if he was the issue

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>>89764311
Yes, in my opinion, he became one out of necessity and it's not even the bad kind, it's the pandering type for his audience. Up to you on the judgement call of his character but I am against character assassination and extremes when it isn't warranted.

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>>89766444
>He NEEDED to sexually harass the girls, you don't understand

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>>89747822
Shinri is comfy streamer, probably responsible for all the perms Homos have, plays obscure games, doesn't get into any drama, and is a ghostfucker.

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>>89756081
definitely what niji cultivated. they love going for dumb sex jokes for comedy. it was cute in small doses, but then they started doing it too much. i miss debut krisis when they were just bros being bros.

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>>89767024
Doppio, Shu and Ryoma are the least sexpesty guys and are doing fine

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>>89755180
Confirmed sex pest

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>>89766703
Don't ask me why but the women audience loves that for self insertion purposes or something. Hence why the perception most of the male Vtubers have the sexpest title.

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>>89744934
rrat: They're giving him stuff to convince him to stay.

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>>89768885
Sounds like cope to me. He has no reason to be a sexpest other than just to be a sexpest

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>>89766823
>doesn't get into any drama
Rormao

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>>89769094
Right, I don't disagree but being one gives you more money and I have less respect for him doing it. I should clarify that what I meant by necessity meant what he had to do to retain how he currently streamed and maintain the status quo. I do think he could do extreme actions like Scarle did and isolate himself until graduation or something. But I don't have any respect when he is selling out to pandering because he isn't actually toughing it out.

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>>89769381
>He has to become a sexpest because girls love it
Then why is he less popular than Shu or Doppio?

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>>89769472
Is there a way of verifying this?

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>>89769638
The fact Luxiem merch flies off the shelves and that Doppio has his own Nijisanji tournament series

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>>89769472
I guess on the face of it he is less popular but not by revenue from streaming. Someone compiled this for October and from his streams, he is doing well for himself beating out both, but that is all again based on his pandering.

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>>89770633
Ike and Fulgur aren't sexpests and they make more despite Ike only streaming ten times

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>>89770633
>Shu lower than Aster
Jeez.

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>>89769472
doppio is not more popular than him and shu is the most popular nijien

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>>89771452
So being a sexpest doesn't make you more successful

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>>89770787
>>89771590
In comparison to his gen, it does. I won't question what works and doesn't for each Vtuber. However, he had choices to not do it as said earlier. It would have been better for him to eat shit to preserve his reputation outside Nijisanji than do this which is certainly something that can be questioned. I'm tired of the conversation since it has veered off the original chain of thought so much and that point has been made so I'm stopping here.

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>>89758583
I thought that was Elira and Vox

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>>89771590
Sexpest only makes you more popular in the sense if you can make people think you're a lke man or a ladies man. Its more of just a behavior some guys can do more then a thing that they can get away with

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>>89773434
Vox is just elira's simp

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>>89774205
That was shu wasn't it?

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>>89754206
actual sex pest

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>>89753652
I knew he was based but I had no idea he was that based holy shit

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>Since literally no one watches niji a bunch of fags on the board was convinced by "le hecking good ones" shilling when the guy is actually also a sexpest

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>>89744685
I KNEEEL

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>>89774554
Yes it was.

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>>89774554
was. he already moved on now

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>>89779167
Don't understand why people would shill him but never even watch him in the first place

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>>89756199
>Newfag surprised that the board hates men

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>>89763868
Wait wtf? I know that her dog died during the selen fiasco but what is all this new info

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>>89789552
Its not new info, its just been ignored by the hyper dramma nigger ass faggots.
She clearly did the stream under duress and without knowing anything that was going on

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>>89789552
>T. Retard who bought the bait

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>>89789552
Least gullible /vt/ poster

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>>89789587
The anon is claiming new info
>>89789584
What is all this about being resentful of enna and vox on memba?

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>>89789720
Are you even able to put on your clothes by yourself

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>>89789720
She never said it directly, she implied that she had no say in the matter though

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>>89756888
She got a cat so her mental health seem to have gotten better. It helps that unlike vox she's not a numberfag so there's no daily stress on being a 3view. I dunno about the whole "pretending this and that" that everyone else is claiming.

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>>89789797
The pretending shit is just disingenuous faggots making shit up to fit their narratives like usual

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>>89789753
Uh yeah. So the anon is lying?
>>89789759
So you're just making shit up? Sadge.

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>>89758250
>>89757948
Doki and Mint wouldn't even be talking right now if Mint didn't make the first move by following Doki on Twitter and Doki's manager messaging her about Wrestletuber.

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>>89789957
Believe what you want, Im not here to twist someones arm into believing my words unlike the disingenuous dramma niggers trying to fit everything into their narrative

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>>89790009
What did she say exactly that made you think that?

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>>89790062
Generally being depressed and feeling betrayed and wanting to just focus on streaming and not the drama

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>>89790009
Bitch, the black stream was her idea. She did similar shit in the past.

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>>89790123
Next you're gonna try telling me shes actually the manager who didnt let doki get anything, right drama nigger?

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>>89790099
>depressed
>betrayed
If she used those words there would have been multiple catalog threads by now. Of course famelira is lying

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>>89790172
That was millie who didn't want the mv to go ahead. She asked elira and elira asked manesan to delay it. Just another pressure tactics in a long list. However they didn't anticipate that they'd push selen to the edge and freaked the fuck out when the shokku happened.

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>this thread
Big “LOOK AT THOSE UPVOTE NUMBERS WOOOOOO THEY ARE SO POPULAR OGEY TIME TO WATCH THEIR CLIPS” energy

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>>89790172
9 dedicated merch releases versus 3 at most for the higher earning organs. You tell me what that means.

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>>89790455
It means management is retarded and was obviously trying to push certain livers over other ones.
The company is fucking hot garbage and has never not been. Cant blame the livers who are getting shit for that, its 100% on the fucking shitty company and management

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>>89790545
Stop trying to suck up. You didn't follow NotSoDeadpool's footsteps. You still defend Elira. And again, she did shit that is similar to the black stream back when she wasn't in Niji.

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>>89790692
>tell me what that means
>aswers what that means
>stop telling me what that means
I would hate to be in your brain, jesus christ

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>>89790245
to be fair, catalog-nigs have limited exposure. An elira fan needs to spill a clip or a post if that was true, if anything, this could've saved Elira. Feels like a fake psyop. If a genuine fan cared, they would leak members to save Elira's reputation

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>>89790760
With the amount of fucking spinning the drama niggers do, you really think anything said or clipped even out of context could salvage her rep on this board? Its futile. No point in feeding the drama faggots anymore than they have already been. THe fucking retarded company does it regularily enough as it is

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>>89790743
Defending Elira equates to defending the branch and the company. If you really cared, you would boycott.

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>>89791071
>the people you like watching are the company
Thats the kind of mindset that encourages tribalism and supports company superiority. Thats retarded. Support who you like, not their company.

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>>89791097
>support who you like
Oh, but i am.

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>>89791175
Good shit then. I also am membied to minto and several other vtubers who i love to watch and support.

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>>89791198
Well, I guess Nijisanji never mistreated Elira. I see why you would continue to support her and the company.

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>>89791273
I still dont see why you are equating the two. I would love for the company to close down and free their slaves

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>>89791292
And yet you continue to give them money?

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>>89791377
My one membership to one liver doesnt matter and wont keep them afloat.

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>>89791377
Yes, she can have all my money, I'm her little pay piggie. Oink oink

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>>89791432
based paypig

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>>89791412
This attitude is precisely what's keeping them afloat and it's precisely why the boycott still hasn't brought them down.

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>>89791487
Maybe some people just don’t care about your boycott as much as you do

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>>89791487
You are severely overestimating how many members she has then. I dont think the grand total of all of them have more than 3000 membys at this point. Excluding meloco i guess?

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>>89791542
>management is shit, the company is shit, they deserve to go under
>but i don't care to boycott them

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>>89791625
>this one board mattering in the grand scheme of things
As long as people outside of here are still supporting the company, the boycott is a waste of effort

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>>89791690
Who said anything anything about /here/, fuckface? And what, did you think that in normalfag spaces the black stream was a fucking success? Are you from a parallel universe or are you just pants-on-head retarded?

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>>89791762
Wow, aggressive much? I dont visit twitter, reddit or facebook so i have no idea who the "normalfag spaces" are taking it. All i see here are a hundred monkeys screeching in every thread as much as possible thinking itll make some sort of difference when the dredges (we are here) dont give a shit

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>>89791822
>Wow, aggressive much
Ah, i see now. You're a woman. Post tits.

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>>89791891
My dicks bigger than yours brown feet

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>>89791909
And also a newfag.

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>>89791544
Not a chance Meloco has a decent amount of members.
The only time she ever gets any kind of viewership is when she's with Kuzuha or doing ASMR. Any other times she can get as low as mid 3view.

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>>89792769
nta, but I checked vstats and the only stream that would barely qualify as "mid 3view" is a SC reading stream. She'll almost certainly end this year as the 2nd or 3rd most subbed female talent in NijiEN. Of course, she's not really EN anymore.

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>>89793147
ah, I was going by average, not peak. My bad for not being clear.

Though after actually looking at the graphs, there's clearly funky averaging going on. My point still stands that Meloco without the JP collab buff isn't comparable at all to her solo content.
Just look at how crazy her viewership was bouncing around even during her "peak" in the NijiGTA arc. Looking at the graphs themselves you see massive spikes out of nowhere, which apparently correspond to Kuzuha being on screen.

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this guy is just a male finana

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>>89795440
No that was hex

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>>89791909
That isn't what brownfeet mean

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>>89756203
That’s rough buddy…

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who