/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>We'll protect your smile ruffian... For $45.

[Anonymous No.]

>holo make money
>this is bad somehow

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753855
You have to be a Phasecuck with that mindset

[Anonymous No.]

Patra pissed on me during the 3D stream so I don't care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753886
poorfag

[Anonymous No.]

Merch has and always will be optional, you don't have to consoome in order to enjoy vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
A protection racket doesn't come cheap.

[Anonymous No.]

this would be worth if they used their real voice

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
give it a week. It'll be on /t/

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>>87753910
FWMC gave JPs their ASMR and won't give their larger EN fanbase the same free treatment, that has always been the issue here. Nobody cares that they make money with 3 different birthday celebrations or any other merch method. Ruffians just want fair treatment.

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>>87753734
I wouldn't spend 45 dollars if they're going to repeatedly BAU BAU into my ears like my fucking alarm clock

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753998
Or just download it now
https://gofile.io/d/p2T6Jo

[Anonymous No.]

If Pero ain't in it I'm not interested.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753939
It wasn't her real voice, but Fuwawa's voice doing an impression of Marine was kinda hot.
https://youtu.be/Ui2gjuyOxmg?t=69

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>>87754054
Nice. I've never liked asmr because I can't hear very well so it doesn't sound good at all even if I turn my volume up so maybe there's something to this that I don't get.
That's pretty unlikely however. Unless you're star struck by Fuwamoco it's just two girls whispering into an expensive microphone.

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>>87753855
if the billion dollar corporation makes money then all is good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87754054
Where's the JP version?

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
Things cost money

[Anonymous No.]

>>87754279
Scams cost money too. You're the mark.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87754251
They have a 100% cut on VP. All the money goes to Fuwamoco.

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>>87754319
>100% cut on VP.
LMAO. How retarded are you? The fact the cut is better percentage-wise than other things doesn't mean Cover doesn't get their cut too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87754319
then they can go fuck themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87754363
Phasekek just because your black corpo has bad cuts doesn't mean holo does

[Anonymous No.]

Watch out phasesisters! Creepman is going to get ya!

[Anonymous No.]

>>87754363
Wuffians were never very bright. Math is too much for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87754444
they seem to have had cuts to their visa management program recently

[Anonymous No.]

>another bvtmbrown thread
grim

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>>87753734
It would be really funny if this is what divides the ruffians

[Anonymous No.]

>>87754467
kys phasecuck alright that was kinda funny

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>>87754444
>Another less than 100% is automatically a bad cut.
Again, how low IQ are you? You are genuinely the dumbest person I have seen post on this board in quite a while.

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>>87754363
How retarded are you? We know some merch money goes straight to the talent without any cut because the merch in question is SELF-PRODUCED. You do the merch yourself you own it. It's not that hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
Based Fuwamoco pricing out SEA

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
Can I have a $15 discount if I get it without Mococo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
Blame the game, not the player.

[Anonymous No.]

Patra tax.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
ASMR voice packs are nothing new

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>>87754533
Cover helps in the production of hundreds of voice packs yearly and sells them on their store platform, Voice packs and voice dramas are a big part of their money-making business strategy and it shows up on their financial reports. You really are the most naive moron I have ever encountered to keep pushing this stupid narrative.

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>>87753734
Why does she look like she just farted?

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>>87754692
>Cover helps in the production of hundreds of voice packs
Depending on the amount of actual help their cut changes. If let's say this FWMC asmr pack is 100% self-funded Cover cut is gonna be 0 or close to 0. You would know this if you actually watched streams. So yeah, thank you for backing up my argument.

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>>87754692
keep seething phasekek

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753908
nobody hates spending money more than self-made rich people. that's why they're rich. unless they're trust fund babies or cryptobros.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87754833
Poorfag cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87754692
Anything less than a 100% cut is the evil corpo stealing, or something. Not sure if its a retarded wuffian or an anti pretending to be one.

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>>87753734
Get a job hippie

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>>87753734
I like how Ruffians in this thread think FWMC obscenely overcharging their fanbase is better than Cover making the voice packs so expensive. It reflects better on your oshis if the latter is true than the former being true.

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>>87754854
the only one coping is you, simp, trying to justify spending 50 bucks on something everyone else releases for free kek. you should tell your family and colleagues about this amazing purchase of yours and then tell me how they reacted

[Anonymous No.]

I will pirate it

[Anonymous No.]

>>87755281
Poorfag cope and seethe.

[Anonymous No.]

coverfaggots lmao keep seething

[Anonymous No.]

>>87754054
i think is morally correct to download this for free

[Anonymous No.]

>>87754054
>Or just download it now
That's not even half the sets retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
>Nice smile (You) got there, would be a shame if anything happened to it

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>>87754783
Patra's taking 50%

[Anonymous No.]

>>87755346
don't pretend you understand japanese ken-sama

[Anonymous No.]

>>87755135
Doesn't matter. FWMC have repeatedly talked about how they 'Really want to do ASMR for the Ruffians and doggy pack'. This, a paid-for product that's quite expensive compared to both other ASMR VP's and general VP's is them doing it for the Ruffians.
Then you look at something like Shiori saying that she liked the idea of roleplaying for a different option in one of the VP sets who went and did a whole other recording and script writing and released it into her membership.
They are the biggest numberfags of EN, they are the biggest shillers in EN, they are the most money-hungry in EN.

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck why is it 45 bucks?, haven't these voice packs always been priced at 10 USD at most or I am dreaming?, isn't this the most expensive voice pack ever coming from cover?

[Anonymous No.]

>>87755308
confirmed feeling ashamed of who you are. that's sad

[Anonymous No.]

>>87755606
Poorfag literally crying because he can't afford a $45 voice pack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87755603
On the EN side, yeah. There were some ASMR voice packs on the JP side for 20-35 bux depending.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87755281
>everyone else releases for free
Absolute fucking retard
https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/search?q=asmr

[Anonymous No.]

Where the fuck is Fauna's ASMR? fucking whore

[Anonymous No.]

>>87755644
>Highest price $21
Damn Fuwamoco going for the record with flying colours

[Anonymous No.]

Nice thread phasebrowns

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753939
Risu did that in a zatsu years ago. Her real voice is pretty husky.

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>>87753734
Is FWMC the most money-hungry Hololive vtubers ever? There are probably a million Twitch whores who blow them out of the water, but at least in HoloEN I have never seen anyone push so hard for sub milestone, superchats and merch as they do. Does anyone in HoloJP put as much focus on milestones and money-making as FWMC?

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
>Poorsis can't afford a measly $45

[Anonymous No.]

>>87755644
go onto youtube, type hololive asmr, you're welcome

[Anonymous No.]

>>87755948
It looks like they're making fun of the OP SEA-chama

[Anonymous No.]

>>87755346
You WILL to pay for the sets where they bothered to try, Wuffian.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
>45$ for asmr
Alias Anono from V4M produces some 40 minute long kino asmr every other day for free.
No thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87755968
The rest of HoloEN, even the ones with tier 3 subs, have been more subtle about wanting money that for sure.

"PERO READS ONLY RED SUPERCHATS" kinda says it all already.

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>>87755968
Kiara used to be the one who shilled her stuff the most, but they're past what she was doing for sure. Add in that they take every single piece of 'homework' they can, which ends up being mostly secondary merch stuff, and that they have their FWMC Morning where they mostly just shill their stuff more, and it really can come off as them being nothing but shilling machines.

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>>87754833
I'm on my way to be self made with consistent compunding income, and I found that the more money I make the more I dont want to spend money on useless things like merch or a fucking voicepack. I'd better spend it on things worth investing with far better ROI than mere mental health. People who watch vtubers for their mental health are weaks and cowards who are too afraid to admit that they're shit and they have to improve themselves.
Same as they who mocks people who dont buy voicepacks as poorfag, they're trying to justify their weak minds and shitty lives by thinking that other people are inferior to them.
I'd say let them live in their little world.

[Anonymous No.]

FUBUKI's ASMR is also expensive, but what FUBUKI and FWMC have in common is ‘Patra-produced ASMR’!
Patra's ASMR is the best, which is probably why it is priced high as branding.
The cover company is also convinced.
FUBUKI and FWMC are also convinced.
JP fans also have a good impression of Patra on a regular basis and understand Patra's ASMR branding.
EN fans may be surprised, but JP's fan community is calm even at these prices.

fubukiのASMRも高額だけど、fubukiとFWMCに共通するのは「パトラプロデュースのASMR」です
パトラのASMRは最高なので、ブランディングとして高価格にしているのでしょう。
カバー社も納得しています。
fubukiもFWMCも納得しています。
JPファンもパトラに日頃から好印象を持ち、パトラのASMRのブランディングに理解をしています。
ENファンは驚いたかもしれませんが、JPのファンコミュニティはこの価格でも落ち着いています。

[Anonymous No.]

>>87756209
i fucking hate americans and canadians

[Anonymous No.]

>>87756236
pastra's asmr is dogshit judging by what they did today. it was still hot though, don't get me wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>87756236
go back to /jp/

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>>87753939
Any clips of their real voices?

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>>87753734
>SFW garbage
I would buy the whole set for $100 if they make it nsfw

[Anonymous No.]

>>87756370
Just go watch their previous stuff. It's much closer to the pre-vtuber era than what they do today is. Hell, even debut FWMC were a bit different and generally less shrill.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87755948
Brownvtubermemes is on a roll today!

[Anonymous No.]

>>87756236
Why are there so many JP Cover shills doing damage control on 4chan?

[Anonymous No.]

45$ for that shit WTF
what idiot buys this

[Anonymous No.]

>>87756664
>what idiot buys this
>>87755996

[Anonymous No.]

>>87755603
Shipping costs

[Anonymous No.]

>>87754451
didnt expect to see fucking jacksfilms here, how did you like the filian video he made?

[Anonymous No.]

what about fuwamoco makes people seethe so much?

[Anonymous No.]

>>87756916
eops feel betrayed

[Anonymous No.]

>>87756073
I feel the same but please leave my wife out of this

[Anonymous No.]

>>87756916
10 seconds of silence

[Anonymous No.]

>>87756916
milk the community

[Anonymous No.]

>>87756909
Jacksfilms hasn't made anything good in 15 years but he made Phasefags seethe so pretty good I guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>87756916
10 seconds silence mindbroke inferior race

[Anonymous No.]

>>87756916
Because you are in the catalog. Ruffians would be buy it, and the people here calling other poorfags would wait for someone else leak it for free.
In the end everyone will end listening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87756209
this but I spend all my money on gacha instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
You couldn't even pay me $45 to listen to that shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>87756964
Sorry. She was just the first that came to mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87756916
They used the EN fanbase as stepping stones to join holo JP so a lot of ex-ruffians resent them, and after that you have FWMC themselves being hardcore numberfags and basically grifters.

>pero reads only akasupas
>vertical numberfagging
>subscribe counter ever since they hit like 700k
>japan arc
>no character growth
>sold their ASMR virginity to JP months ago
>now the most expensive ASMR voice pack in the company, it's mild at best
>membership ruffians gets fucked, again
>always cancel EN streams
>nevee cancel JP streams

So well... Plenty of evidence to understand why a lot of people are annoyed with the "hungry dogs" really, their growth has been great but it hasn't been easy or without sacrifices, their laid their bed and now have to rest on it.

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>>87757559

[Anonymous No.]

you don't understand, guys. There are three million ear-cleaning ASMRs on youtube but this one has FWMC in it so that deserves a 100$ pricetag. Membership ASMR never ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
You think anyone in vtubing is doing it for free? It's their fucking job mate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87755603
It's a set of four separate voicepacks dummy. Morning voice is 1000yen, sleepy time with fuwawa is 2000yen, mococo lap pillow 2000yen and gettibg your ears licked by them 2000yen. Sucks for japanese ruffians, 7000yen for voices is rough in this economy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87758452
yes? I can find a trillion ear-cleaning ASMRs without a problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87755948
>brown vt memes is an unironic incel
Who'd have thunk?

[Anonymous No.]

>>87758452
nobody says a voicepack should be free, but $45 is way too much for that shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>87758489
>licked
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>87756916
Hello darkness, my old friend
I've come to talk with you again
Because a vision softly creeping
Left its seeds while I was sleeping
And the vision that was planted in my brain
Still remains
Within the sound of silence

[Anonymous No.]

>>87756916
QRD:
https://files.catbox.moe/9dfzx0.mp4

[Anonymous No.]

>>87758673
You're telling me they made dog girls to do ear cleaning and they're not even using their tongues to do it?! Lame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
>45 dollars for non-ero ASMR
No thanks, I'll just keep jacking off to ASMR videos with random keyspam titles to not trigger a DMCA on normalfag websites.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87758673
fucking fauna where is the asmr

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753855
Well the part that I dislike is that they did a free ASMR stream… for JP listeners while their english audience needs to pay for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>87758752
There isn't even a kiss...

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
I got it cause 90 bucks is nothing to me im a multi millionaire, and I like ASMR for sleeping and as a relaxant (non-ero).

It isn't bad, patra taught them well, but just on pure time it costs more than a buck a minute Its not even an hour's worth for the 45 bucks. they give a bit of 'fan service' by mococo calling 'oniichan' and fuwawa doing the elder sister treatment so if you really love fuwamoco there's that (I dont really care about that whole dynamic though, I never wished for siblings, even incest sisters). The ear cleaning portion is fine, but patra does the legit asmr better for free and longer on her weekly asmr streams.

If you are big fans of fuwamoco this might be worth it to you, but objectively speaking, its way overpriced for what you get.
The whole older sister older brother thing also sounds kinda cringe to me in English.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87756916
what about people disagreeing with the way they do things makes people seethe so much?

[Anonymous No.]

>>87757663
this is the most inane schizo babble I've seen all week

[Anonymous No.]

>>87759491
>the truth is schizo babble
how much is cover paying you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>87759303
>i'm a multi-millionaire
Sure you are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753855
>charges $45 for a 40 minute work
>this is good actually and not greedy as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>87758801
Holy fucking tourist admission.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87758748
>maricones de numeros
lost it right there

[Anonymous No.]

>>87759701

poornigs cant handle the truth. believe what you wish, you're welcome for the review.

[Anonymous No.]

niggers go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>87759711
$45 is greedy as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>87759303
>im a multi millionaire
And I'm Elon and Bill gates secret child

[Anonymous No.]

is there any simultaneous whispering from the two of them?
if not my only expectation/hope for a twin asmr has been ruined

[Anonymous No.]

>>87759711
split it by two

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
>HOAEH??!?!?!

[Anonymous No.]

>>87758748
this has more creativity poured into it than fuwamoco streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>87754054

[Anonymous No.]

>>87759701
He's not wrong

[Anonymous No.]

That English Fuwamoco ASMR stream is coming any day now right ruffians? Aaaaaaaaany day now......

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
seems like a good deal, too bad you are a poor phasefag

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
Alternatively, I can listen to actual ASMR done by experienced ASMRists on Youtube for free

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753901
BASED

[Anonymous No.]

>>87758748
holy kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753901
What? She did? Link and timestamp?

[Anonymous No.]

Very interesting, after attacking Hololive in his previous post in an attempt to deflect from the Pippa situation bvtm is now back to pretending to be a hololive ally in the hope of having ruffians defend him.

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>>87753734

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>>87756236
patra is ok but i think saying best is definitely wrong, i still think in jp sphere miyadi is true sweet spot on asmr. honestly even though she's an avtuber, karin is also very good at the sfw side as well. i've listened to her nsfw so much though her voice triggers some pavlovian reaction in me and i spend the whole time turned on, can't really relax

[Anonymous No.]

I encourage pirating all of them and spreading them

[Anonymous No.]

>>87756209
Yeah okay you pagpag eating brownoid, Keep larping as someone successful, Maybe someday you'll be something!...in your dreams

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
this reminds me of the time some third worlder sisters were trying to make drama over Mori spending like 75 USD eating desserts and cake with friends at some place.

[Anonymous No.]

I listened to it for free and I still feel ripped off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
>Never superchatted
>Never membered
>Adblock on
>Member content pirated
Yup its stream watching time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87758748
>Mono mendigo (de Dubai)
LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>87762435
KEK

[Anonymous No.]

Of course. You "people" have never bought ASMR from hololive before. This is the standard rate. JP has sold ASMR for more. Hell, even EN has charged more. This isn't even in the top 5.
Do you know how much work is involved in protecting our smiles? When you calculate in inflation this is a good deal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
Did they raise the price to compensate for Ina's trip expenses? How hilarious is it that the company just had drama about not giving her a penny during their fuck-up in Japan yesterday

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
shameless

[Anonymous No.]

>>87758748
>La Rata del Sexo

[Anonymous No.]

>45 dollars for some words
holy shit people are retarded you're getting ripped off

[Anonymous No.]

I'm sure they consulted Patra about the price--she's a professional. It's probably about what she charges.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87769460
Patra is a professional and does ASMR streams for free.
FWMC are not professionals and charge $45 for ASMR.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87768478
You are full of bullshit, there's no voice pack more expensive that this one in EN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87769543
You should fact check your bait before posting it phasebrown

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
>scammed and KEKED by japanese ruffians
couldn't be me

[Anonymous No.]

>>87768137
>Pag pag brown time

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
My oshi charged me $0 for over 60 minutes date themed ASMR voice pack with the option of spending $20 for a bonus handjob in the bathtub extra track
What these bitches offer me for $45?

[Anonymous No.]

>>87769623
Nothing I said is incorrect, try again

[Anonymous No.]

>>87769851
They offer you having your ears licked by some random dogs they found on the street.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87769964
>Hololive
>ear licking

[Anonymous No.]

>>87754192
>Unless you're star struck by Fuwamoco
Take a while guess who their audience is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87770020
wild*

[Anonymous No.]

>>87759711
>On this day, Anon discovers how influencer merchandising works.

[Anonymous No.]

really embracing that charging twice as much because there are two of them meme from gta game lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>87754251
>billion dollar
Retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>87756466
>>87756370
Different mics

[Anonymous No.]

>>87769460
Patra's first ASMR work was like 4 hours of newly recorded stuff for 1500 Yen LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
this happens because ruffians continue to roll over and consoom product
almost as mindless and pussy-whipped as chumbuds

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753886
sorry that you can only afford pagpag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87770218
Nah, holocucks are just a special breed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87772330
>seething nijinigger
Luxiem is dead sis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
But think of the value generated for the shareholders!

[Anonymous No.]

>>87772920
>seething nijinigger that his oshi isn't popular.
cool

[Anonymous No.]

>>87758748
El mas influyente

[Anonymous No.]

>>87755968
Gura who appears (or doesn't even do that) to shill the merch or collabs with big companies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
fucking dumbæss retærd why are you hæving these anti-consumerist "muh moneymæking bad" type opinions about a hobby that is inherently consumerist ænd all about mæking money ænd supporting corporæte product? Fuck outta retærd, this isn't some hipster hippy commie shit

Dumbæss niggæ this shit is æll æbout money ænd numbers ænd concerts ænd supæchats ænd views ænd new tech ænd plastic goods to stack in glæss cases on your shelf ænd acryllic stands ænd idolshit ænd selling blu-rays ænd putting bread on the table for women who are putting on elaborate light shows like the wizard of Oz so they don't have to do wægiecucked jobs like what you do, get that through your thick skull already
this hobby is the essence of the otaku in the Jæpanese sense where you splerge money on merch to make shrines out of whichever product-girl you like ænd the brand of the girl is your identity, fuck off ænd go watch some shit-tier indie 2view or twitch slob poorfag whining æbout muh cæpitalism or some shit if you wænt this hobby to be down to earth women painting figurines or playing your autismo-RTS shit out of pure passion or some shit, retærd

we runnin a fuckin business here niggæ, go back
BAU BAU

[Anonymous No.]

>>87754038
>FWMC gave JPs their ASMR and won't give their larger EN fanbase the same free treatment
It's just ASMR you faggot. Outside of you and like 9 other retards, no one gives a shit about that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
are wuffians seriously going to just lay down and take this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>87773033
>hello I'm a retarded tourist
Nice introduction, no one asked though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87773033
Eopchama, that succubus is from nanashinku

[Anonymous No.]

>>87773596
holy mother of cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>87774291
WHO?

[Anonymous No.]

>they actually did a free 3D ASMR stream but it was in Japanese for their Japanese viewers
>finally do an English ASMR but make the english speaking fans pay money for it
Aren't they supposed to be HoloEN? Why does it always seem like they give the JP fans better treatment?

[Anonymous No.]

>>87772969
Holy deflection

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
bvtm thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>87754251
>SEA mindset

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
Oh well. Time to torrent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
BAUSED

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
Okay, here you go Miss Fuwawa. Just make sure Moco-chan gets her share!

[Anonymous No.]

>>87759303
>im a multi millionaire
okay friend you can finish your larping now

[Anonymous No.]

>>87755598
That's a lot of words for someone who speaks without proof

[Anonymous No.]

>>87762435
KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>87755748
>>Highest price $21
Pagpag eater can't read
https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/hololive_asmr_angelsperch

[Anonymous No.]

>>87759540
>I-I'm not a schizo I swear
How was your pagpag today?

[Anonymous No.]

>>87755598
>They are the biggest numberfags of EN, they are the biggest shillers in EN, they are the most money-hungry in EN
Yeah and that's fucking BASED being money hungry and on the grind is BASED as fuck, no, scratch that, it's fucking BAUSED
if you think it's 'le bad' you're just a seething brokie poorfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>87779052
Or is it nijisister thread, masked as a btvm thread, disguised as a phasekek deflection, veiled as a pagpag thread, obscured through a vshitshow thread, masquerading as a kiwinigger thread, concealed as a homobeggar thread, and secretly a /jp/ thread all along?
We may never know the truth, anonkum-chama....

[Anonymous No.]

>>87779683
The price tag speaks for itself, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.]

>ASMR
unicorns deserve to be fleeced

[Anonymous No.]

Every day that passes i become more and more convinced I made the right choice to stop being a ruffian.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87780747
you were never a ruffian, don't lie

[Anonymous No.]

>>87780800
>t. no-true-scotsman'ing yes-man

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
Oh no! Poorfags, don't look!

[Anonymous No.]

This is a rich American hobby. Europoors and browns leave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87781022
AIEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.]

>>87780604
based

[Anonymous No.]

>>87780800
sorry but I was, not that you'll believe me

[Anonymous No.]

>>87781022
waaaaow that's like a month's wage!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>87781194
You never loved them. Stay away from them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87781194
battle plan? are they at war? with whom?

[Anonymous No.]

>>87781291
True, I only ever liked them because they were entertaining and cute but I wasn't retarded enough like you to actually fall in love with them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87780146
>How was your pagpag today?
i don't know what that is. maybe you can explain since it seems like it's something you're an expert in?

[Anonymous No.]

>>87781291
>not willing to call out the women you love when they're having a woman moment
Low T faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

I have no idea how anyone can listen to those two without having severe brain damage

[Anonymous No.]

>>87781194
Anon that's literally my screenshot. Fuck off with your falseflagging. .

[Anonymous No.]

>>87781194
>>87781399

[Anonymous No.]

>>87781622
it's not having a woman moment to make money you fucking commie retard
whining about people's success actually is more woman-like however
just stop being poor, brokie bitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>87782243
>seething this hard
No dignity and no self-respect to be found in this one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87782449
you're poor lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>87780860
logical fallacies are only fallacies if they are being used incorrectly, retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>87774969
Same reason Mumei doesn't reply to JP superheats in a mockingly blasé tone. They want to pursue the Japanese market, EN is just their stepping stone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87783350
superchats*

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
apologize

[Anonymous No.]

>>87783234
>incorrectly
That's your copium talking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753855
I love when a rich company makes more money. Companies are good. They are my only friend.
Also fuck the talents, the shareholders want some of the share they hold. They keep the lights on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753855
Consoooooooomer

[Anonymous No.]

>>87783915
ruffians from day 1 have wanted Fuwamoco to be popular and successful since even before they got into Hololive and were happy they got in and became successful quickly due to what their circumstances were prior; only newfags don't know know about this
if you're a 'ruffian' who dropped them for something like 'they want to make money/they price things too heavily/they numberfag etc' then you probably really weren't an actual ruffian and definitely hadn't been watching/supporting them since the start. Things like numberfagging and them making money are not things ruffians generally complain about in regards to their oshis, only schizos and antis complain about things like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87784212
retarded strawman deliberately missing the point and obfuscating on purpose, they said 'I love when holo (the talent) makes money' not the company disingenuous fag

[Anonymous No.]

>>87784272
2% brown ULTRAAAAAAAA COMBOOOOOOOOOOO UOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.]

>>87754054
baused

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753855
Fpbp

[Anonymous No.]

>>87784429
Sounds like a lot of cope to justify them being horribly greedy and uncaring people. Good women don't straightforwardly demand men to spend money on them, they make men WANT to spend money on them through their understanding, empathy and goodness. By making *themselves* deserving. If day 1 ruffians knew about all of those traits of theirs from the start, they have shit taste and always had.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753855
>>87785553

[Anonymous No.]

>>87758748
>La Rata del Sexo

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
Yeah, shitposting aside, I was ready to drop something like 3.5k, but 7k for less than 1h of content is way too much, even if I like them a lot

[Anonymous No.]

>>87785602
>Good women don't straightforwardly demand men to spend money on them
it's literally their job to make men spend money on them, retard, do you think Hololive is a charity or something? They're literally working for a corporation doing what they're supposed to be doing
> they make men WANT to spend money on
Ruffians do WANT to spend money on them
>through their understanding, empathy and goodness
gay moralfag virtue signalling

[Anonymous No.]

>>87787233
>it's literally their job to make men spend money on them, retard
And they're not very fucking good at it. Unless the men in question are total spineless wimps and/or with the mental capacity of an 8 year-old.
>They're literally working for a corporation
Not my fucking problem. It doesn't matter if you're corpo or indie, if you're dogshit at retaining paying men with well-developed standards, being one or the other is not a saving grace.
>Ruffians do want to spend money though
See point 1.
>gay moralfag virtue signalling
I accept your concession.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
At least its in english kek. Enjoy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87787890
you've arbitrarily decided that them successfully getting money spend on them has to include 'the men having muh standards' just so you can say, by your own gay retarded invented standards, that they ackshually are not already successful making men spend money on them somehow
you can go and look at see how much they rake in in supachats daily to see how successful they are. The fact of the matter is: ruffians DO want them to be monetarily succesful, they do WANT to spend money pn them and they ARE spending money on them, simple as
>I accept your concession
you literally need to pull your gay moralfag standards out your ass and declare yourself the winner just because they meet ypur faggoty invented 'muh standards' just to win the argument
I accept YOUR concession, pearl-clucthing hand-wringing virtue-signalling commie faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>87788531
>you decided they're not successful
I never said that even once, you illiterate fuckup.
>your own gay inverted standards
Because all of you yes-men retards are constantly no-true-scotsman'ing. You are utterly blind and do not see that you're getting baltantly toyed with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87789039
>I never said that even once, you illiterate fuckup
you literally said
>And they're not very fucking good at it. Unless the men in question are total spineless wimps and/or with the mental capacity of an 8 year-old.
i.e. you're saying 'they're not good at it (getting men to spend money on them) if they don't meet my arbitrary faggoty muh real men muh nice women standards'
retard
it's objectively true that Fuwamoco are successful and ruffians want them to be successful, you're just coping and seething
>You are utterly blind and do not see that you're getting baltantly toyed with
no we're not blind or getting toyed with, we are based FindomCHADS that want to willingly drain our balls and wallets to our sexy teletubbies - and yes, you are not a true ruffian if you disagree, cope and seethe moralfaggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>87758748
>La Rata del Sexo

[Anonymous No.]

>>87789813
>we are based FindomCHADS
Jesus fucking christ. Just kill yourself now. You're a waste of the gene pool.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87789967
go back normalfaggot, this hobby isn't for people like you

[Anonymous No.]

>>87790485
I simply chose a better oshi for myself. One who doesn't demand my money so blatantly. And you're not supposed to be proud of your degeneracy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87790734
>And you're not supposed to be proud of your degeneracy
this entire hobby is degeneracy virtue signalling retard, what the fuck do you think it is and where do you think you are
>I simply chose a better oshi for myself.
who is your oshi?

[sage No.]

when did fuwamoco become the new catalog favorite

[Anonymous No.]

That's a lot of cope. Basically sunk cost fallacy as ruffians throw more and more money at FWMC despite being mistreated and progressively more miserable. Why are you doing that to yourself? There are much nicer girls in EN, and if you know japanese - actual JP holos. I don't get it. Most of EN did occasional amateur ASMR for their fanbase for free (or just behind cheap membership that most people would have anyway), even if it was rough they did it just for the fun of it. I'm sure most ruffians expected exactly the same, just fun ASMR time with their oshi. They could contact Fauna for tips, or Okayu, Noel, Choco too. You can use any mic for that, no need for KU100 and dedicated studio. Instead they rushed straight to Patra, and advertised her as an ASMR queen, and for what, just to justify 45$ price tag? Times two? What's next?

[Anonymous No.]

>>87754054
Smile restored

[Anonymous No.]

>>87790999
skippa skippa

[Anonymous No.]

>>87790909
sage goes in the options field, newfriend

[Anonymous No.]

>>87790909
when the catalog become filled with more seething femanons/2views than usual

[Anonymous No.]

>>87790881
>this entire hobby is degeneracy
Is this how you're justifying to yourself your findom fetish? That isn't even inherent to the hobby, you absolute retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87790999
yeah it's pretty obvious that the collab they had last week was just to put up the illusion that they were friends with Patra so they could justify the $45 pricepoint of the ASMR. turns out it was all just a business move from the start

[Anonymous No.]

>>87791701
virtue signalling about 'muh standards' and 'muh degeneracy' is fucking retarded if you're a vtuber fan;
you are literally a fan of abdicating your socially and genetically expected role of getting a gf and having a family to instead be watching adult women larping and pretending to be japanese cartoon characters for money instead of starting families and becoming mothers themselves and you are almost invariably being cuckolded in some form or another or at the least just being strung along

to be a fan of such a hobby, with an oshi even, and to STILL virtue signal about how 'I'm totally normal and upstanding and a reeeaaal man unlike these other men, MY oshi is ackshually a good woman blah blah blah' is absolutely fucking retarded and you need to go back or stop being a moralfaggot with no self-awareness desu

[Anonymous No.]

>>87792170
Holy fuck, so much projection in one post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87791777
absolutely baused ruthless business women, I love these cruel and harsh doggo mistresses so much bros

[Anonymous No.]

>>87792351
you still haven't told me who your oshi is, cowardly faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>87792454
A self-admitted findom degenerate is talking to me about cowardice? You haven't called out your own oshis for their blatant greed and uncaring attitude, and you're talking to me about cowardice?

[Anonymous No.]

>>87792737
>You haven't called out your own oshis for their blatant greed and uncaring attitude
why the fuck would I 'call them out' for being 'greedy and uncaring' when I literally like them being this way? Retard

answer my fucking question faggot; who is your oshi?
You're not going to because you're scared that if you do you'll get mocked for who your oshi si and how they're not perfect either, aren't you - either that or (even more likely) you actually have no oshi and are just a virtue-signalling concerntrolling tourist retard like most threadshitters on this board are

[Anonymous No.]

>>87792999
>why the fuck would I 'call them out' for being 'greedy and uncaring' when I literally like them being this way?
And this is precisely why you should kill yourself immediately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87782152
>>87783043
oh its this nigger again, where in my post did i say it was about money i left because i don't like them anymore. sounds like you're insecure about money

[Anonymous No.]

>>87793083
who is your oshi faggot?

[Anonymous No.]

>>87793521
Oh, you wouldn't know her. She's a small indie 2view named Suck My Sweaty Balls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87793352
you said the thing about them highly pricing their ASMR in OP has made you 'more and more convinced I made the right choice to stop being a ruffian' so clearly the money is a factor, ruffakeian

[Anonymous No.]

>>87793743
yeah that's what I fucking thought
I accept your concession, tourist faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>87794029
>quadruples down on being a complete embarrassment, a true tribute and exemplar to ruffians everywhere
>"I ACCEPT YOUR CONCESSION BECAUSE YOU REFUSED TO NAME YOUR OSHI"
You faggots earned the title of "worst fanbase ever" rightfully. I can only applaud you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87794507
your own oshi must be pretty fucking embarrassing if you're too scared to just name who they are
if they're that much better than Fuwamoco who are the worst oshis ever with the cringiest fanbase ever then you'd be proud of naming them

but you won't because you're either just a concernfagging tourist that doesn't actually have an oshi or you know that whoever your oshi is makes you a hypocrite for criticizing ruffians and you'll get laughed at

[Anonymous No.]

>>87795283
My oshi is completely irrelevant in this discussion. You're simply trying to divert attention away from yourself because deep down, you know you're an embarrassment and a lowlife. It's not gonna work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87790909
not really new, can check the archive and it been going on for a long time now. they are obessesed with them for the wrong reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87795572
you were the one who brought up your own oshi and made it relevant initially you amnesiac illiterate fucking faggot
>I simply chose a better oshi for myself
your own words. You made it relevant.

If you're gonna make it a point of going 'I chose a better oshi than Fuwamoco who doesn't do X thing I've decided arbitrarily is bad' you should be prepared to say who they are to illustrate what your standard of a 'actually good woman/oshi who isn't le greedy and evil like Fuwamoco' looks like
>You're simply trying to divert attention away from yourself
No you're just running away from your own point for some reason, probably because your oshi is actually not so different to Fuwamoco or even worse in other ways and would make your faggoty standards look hypocritical

[Anonymous No.]

Not even chumbuds get this assmad when their oshi gets a little bit of criticism
But then again, Gura doesn't charge 45 bucks for ASMR

[Anonymous No.]

>>87755598
People used to shit on Suisei for self promotion and focusing on numbers too. I wonder where she would be today if she listened to those people and did things more like Mori

[Anonymous No.]

>>87790999
I'm a Ruffian and I'm perfectly happy. They're everything I want HoloEN to be, no complaints here. They're getting more and more mindshare and are starting to be invited to big ticket Holo events. There is a reason they're the undisputed top of EN right now, they're good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87793939
yeah in that they're greedy, they gave the japs asmr for free

[Anonymous No.]

>>87796211
Ruffians aren't spineless because unlike chumbuds they're not invertebrates

[Anonymous No.]

>>87796652
they are literally selling the ASMR in Japanese too wtf are you talking about

[Anonymous No.]

>>87796834
were you not there for the meltdown over this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEBkfbAYEHQ https://www.youtube.com/live/7PYjJ94tyoI

[Anonymous No.]

>>87796059
You're too ESL to understand proper conversational context. Just because i mentioned my oshi doesn't make her relevant. The topic of the argument is FWMC and always has been. You blame me for tourism. You're emplying No True Scotsman fallacy, classic tactic of cowardly yes-men like you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87796936
>Sisters samefag 50 posts of "oh no no no they did ASMR for the Japs it's over"
>Claim Ruffians had a meltdown
Tale as old as time

[Anonymous No.]

>>87797064
>Just because i mentioned my oshi doesn't make her relevant
It does because we need to judge your taste. If you dropped FWMC to go to Ironmouse then I don't give a fuck and am glad you're gone because you're clearly another vtuber tertiary. You're not saying anything new, it's known that FWMC filter certain types who are irony poisoned and can't handle actual vtubing we're just pointing out to you that you getting filtered is a feature not a bug.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87796936
Nodoka literally asked them to give her ASMR though that's not the same at all and you're retarded if you think it is
that's like getting mad at them for 'cucking their fans and giving fanservice to someone else' when Kiara got them to try to act sexy for her in that one pickup line call in stream or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>87797268
It's projection from jealous women who are assuming their motive because that's what they'd be doing in FWMCs position. The existence of women who actually like their fans, feel an obligation toward them and love idol culture is like garlic to a vampire to the people who have latched on to EN vtubing in the past 3 years

[Anonymous No.]

>>87797249
>irony poisoned
Oh, being outraged that they delayed a promise for over a year and then charge 45 bucks for it is "irony poisoned"? Learn what your buzzwords mean, you utter illiterate fuckup.
>actual vtubing
How many times have you no-true-scotsman'ed? I think i counted four.

[Anonymous No.]

Watching FWMC's downfall has been incredibly satisfying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87797696
>Oh, being outraged that they delayed a promise for over a year and then charge 45 bucks for it is "irony poisoned"?
You're not outraged at all because you never had any intention of watching them or buying their ASMR packs. You ARE an irony poisoned woman who hates them because they're representative of everything you cannot be, genuine, passionate and appreciative.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87797064
The topic of the conversation is how FWMC are supposedly bad - (You) then made it a comparative thing by warbling about your standards for a good oshi and bring up your own oshi to make a point
and are now running from this point when asked to elaborate
>You blame me for tourism
because you are acting like one virtue signalling about muh degeneracy and refusing to name an oshi almost as if you don't really have one

>You're emplying No True Scotsman fallacy
>muh logical fallacy again
shut up ledditor, it's already been pointed out that it's only a fallacy if it's being used incorrectly
e.g. if a man claims they are a cat all of a sudden and dresses up in a fursuit and then goes 'huh??? are you saying I'm not a cat?? Are you gatekeeping what a cat is??? No True Scotsman fallacy bro!' it would be an incorrect to call it a fallacy because he's claerly not actually a fucking cat

likewise, if someone says 'I'm a ruffian - but I don't want to spend money on Fuwamoco, don't want them to be successful and will constantly complain and anti them all the time' clearly they're not actually a fucking ruffian
also likewise if they say they are a vtuber fan but don't have an oshi and only ever seem to be complaining about vtubers and what the hobby is, then they're obviously not actually a fucking vtuber fan

[Anonymous No.]

>>87797731
It's fucking sad is what it is. Seeing their fans enable their worst qualities is honestly rage-inducing. But, I guess, not everyone is prepared to handle the stupidity of manchildren.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm shocked to see some anons actually defend their brutally manipulative business behavior, true NPC behavior the kind you can see only in Mori or Mike fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87797907
Yeah, yeah, go ahead. Fight your imaginary boogeyman.
>>87797933
>comparative thing by warbling about your standards for a good oshi
The standard is simple as a pie, you fucking cretin - DON'T BE A FUCKING GREEDY CUNT. Literally everyone else in HoloEN is better than them on that front.
>muh degeneracy
Shouldn't have admitted to being into findom, then. Shouldn't have implied that an average ruffian is the same as you.
>furry shit
False equivalence, you absolute fucking mongrel retard.
>don't have an oshi
The point is that my oshi ISN'T A GREEDY CUNT. In fact, she quite literally undercharges her own memberships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87797994
>honestly rage-inducing
thinking about the fact that a pair of dorky women roleplaying as retarded animu dogs with uwu voices unironically makes people seethe with rage is actually funny as fuck kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>87798963
Learn to read, dipshit. Their FANS are rage-inducing.

[Anonymous No.]

Certified brownfeet thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>87773584
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[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
>anon, i want you to go into work and ask your boss for the opposite of a raise, since you know, money = evil. you don't want too be evil, do you anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>87799087
This, so bad they made me stop watching fwmc. They're a special breed of manchild. I could write paragraphs of the shit they do and have done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87798809
>DON'T BE A FUCKING GREEDY CUNT
they are literally doing a job, working for a corporate business where the goal quite literally is to make as much money as possible. 'Muh greed' is a retarded complaint for such a line of work and just further reinforces my point about you being a moralfagging commie.
>Literally everyone else in HoloEN is better than them on that front
Calliope "Money Mori" "has song literally called I'm Greedy" Mori exists
>Shouldn't have admitted to being into findom, then
you're missing the point you colossal retard, I'm saying you are an outlier with your gay faggoty moralfag standards in this hobby and that this is a place where >we proudly wallow in our degeneracy. I AM a degenerate but unlike an absolute brainlet faggot like you I have the self-awareness to realize this.
>Shouldn't have implied that an average ruffian is the same as you
this is how I know you really are a tourist here and were never a ruffian; you only need to look at ruffian threads to know this
>False equivalence, you absolute fucking mongrel retard.
completely missing the point and not being able to into analogies, actually low iq
>The point is that my oshi ISN'T A GREEDY CUNT. In fact, she quite literally undercharges her own memberships
if she is a corpo oshi then she's dumb for doing this but also WHO THE FUCK IS YOUR OSHI BRO????

[Anonymous No.]

>>87799774
Sounds like you pay a lot of attention to men instead of girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87753734
Instead of taking one extreme or the other I'm just going to say 45$ isn't going to break the budget but in this economy spending that much has to be justified.
So the value of this entirely depends on how good it is and how much content it provides.
If they made an 24 hour ASMR cycle where they roleplay as your dogs all day oh fuck yeah 45$ is justified. But if it's the generic cliche 5 minute ASMR then hell no lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87767472
i mean it's not really even asmr except for the ear cleaning one

[Anonymous No.]

>>87800092
Not when they've directly impacted streams. Why are you defending them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>87774969
even with the paid ASMR they first mentioned the JP one and then said "oh! and it gets even better! there will also be an english version!" as if it was a complete afterthought to even include anything in english at all. i don't get why the ruffians are okay with this and i don't understand why hololive is letting this happen either. myth and council are basically dead and only 3/5 in advent can be considered EN lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>87799777
>Calliope "Money Mori" "has song literally called I'm Greedy" Mori exists
So she admits to being greedy (which you agree with) and she still released like a dozen long form ASMRs for free unlike FWMC? This is your epic own?

[Anonymous No.]

>>87799777
>they are literally doing a job, working for a corporate business
I already told you - that's not my problem. If they're unable to make me fell that they're worth it, then it doesn't matter whether they're corpo or indie.
>muh Mori
Not even worth dignifying a response to.
>i am a proud degenerate and you're an outlier
The absolute state of ruffians. Do you simply have no boundaries whatsoever?
>were never a ruffian
Read back. Did i ever imply i was? I simply *liked* them. If, according to you, to be a ruffian or a fan of any other vtuber i'm supposed to be completely obsessed to the point of driving myself to bankruptcy, then who am i to argue with your perspective. I'm just a tourist, aren't I?
>analogies
That are completely unapplicable. Not if you're not fucking insane.
>she is a corpo oshi then she's dumb for doing this but also WHO THE FUCK IS YOUR OSHI BRO????
I've thrown a HUGE hint. If you haven't recongized her from that, then you've either never watched any other vtuber, or you're the tourist.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do you guys care so much?? you will eventually get it for free in a torrent

[Anonymous No.]

>>87800947
principles

[Anonymous No.]

>>87800947
>implying anyone on /vt/ is old enough to know how to download torrents

[Anonymous No.]

I'm surprised all the trannies in these threads haven't realised that Ruffians like them BECAUSE they make those people seethe. It baffles me that people try this slightly changed "They ignored their co-workers, how unprofessional" type shit to try and drum up hate when FWMC are the gold standard of EN vtubing because, not in spite of, the fact they do these things that make the clip watching homobegging class of EN fans seethe

[Anonymous No.]

>>87801140
ok nice falseflag nobody watches fuwamoco because they make people on 4chan angry

[Anonymous No.]

wuffians... don't do this to yourselves... stand up and speak out

[Anonymous No.]

>>87801382
They have the 3rd highest average CCV in HoloEN tranny. Next cope.

[Anonymous No.]

No matter how unjustified you as a ruffian might feel this backlash is, it doesn't change the fact of how the people lashing out feel, and I think FWMC would benefit from knowing what the reaction to the price tag was

[Anonymous No.]

>>87800652
> If they're unable to make me fell that they're worth it, then it doesn't matter whether they're corpo or indie
>ME ME ME ME ME
?????
No, you fucking autistic retarded faggot, why the fuck should anyone care about whether or not they impress you and meet your gay faggoty autistic little standards that you pulled out of your ass? This conversation isn't about (You) and determining whether FWMC are le bad or not based on YOUR own autistic arbitrary standards
>Not even worth dignifying a response to.
because you have no counter-argument and it easily disproves the idea that FWMC are le only greedy ENs/the greediest
>The absolute state of ruffians. Do you simply have no boundaries whatsoever?
Nope. Welcome to hell sinner faggot, enjoy your stay and get used to it
>Read back. Did i ever imply i was? I simply *liked* them. If, according to you, to be a ruffian or a fan of any other vtuber i'm supposed to be completely obsessed to the point of driving myself to bankruptcy, then who am i to argue with your perspective
you're missing the point yet again, the point was that the fact ruffians are known to be a degen fanbase proves that you objecting to this by citing yourself as if you are not an outlier proves you must be a tourist to have not seen the ruffian threads
starting to notice a pattern here where you are incapable of thinking outside of your own autistic retarded POV
> I'm just a tourist, aren't I?
Indeed
>That are completely unapplicable. Not if you're not fucking insane.
you don't understand what the analogous point in the analogy was and think the relevant point is the person being a furry for some reason, actual brainlet unable to understand analogies and underlying points of comparison
>I've thrown a HUGE hint. If you haven't recongized her from that, then you've either never watched any other vtuber, or you're the tourist
yeah, sure, there is literally only one single vtuber ever who undercharges their memberships, ok

why are you so scared of just naming your oshi bro???? WHO IS THIS MANS OSHI???
>>87800523
I never said all ASMR content should be paywalled to prove that they are greedy moneymakers and Mori has released voicepacks as well as all her other merch, music and paywalled content and collaborations which dwarf anything FWMC do in terms of money-making
Mori is on a grind on a level beyond FWMC and pretending otherwise is stupid

[Anonymous No.]

>>87801726
why the fuck should FWMC care about how people who are not ruffians feel about the price? Retard. You are not the customer so what you think is fucking irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87766585
>miyadi
>karin

What the flying fuck are you smoking filthy casual. Everyone knows that there is literally no one in the market that can come even close to C, R and M, they have the best equipment in the whole country and years of experience, and I am not even talking about the lewd ones.

Miyadi doesn't even know how to setup her ku100 properly ffs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>87802586
ruffians who don't like the price are being called antis or fake ruffians, so i guess every ruffian loves being used as atms in the end?

[Anonymous No.]

>>87802586
It's called market research, dipshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>87802738
FWMC don't set the price, Cover do

[Anonymous No.]

>>87803012
what does that have to do with anything? i think the price is retarded regardless of who decided on it

[Anonymous No.]

>>87803012
Then they can bark at Cover to not be stupid about the pricing. 500 sales at $30 is better than 250 sales at $45.
There's going to be a certain market of Ruffians who will Always buy FWMC stuff, and then some who'll buy stuff under, say, $60, some under $50, and so on. A lower price point means you get more sales, and it might even entice those who've never/rarely thought of buying merch/voice packs before.
And it's not like stock can run out, plus production costs are pretty cheap, as you just need a microphone and the talent in question, plus some time when said talent isn't doing anything else.

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>>87803011
Market research is where they look into what their target demographics want, not people who aren't the customer, moron
>>87802738
they are not ruffians

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>>87803383
nigger

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>>87803358
EN fans don't buy voice packs. I've never seen any of the EN threads discussing the latest voice pack release. A lower price point does not mean more sales because the number of people interested in buying a FWMC ASMR voice pack who would've bought it at $30 rather than $45 is a tiny minority.