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It's occurred to me I don't think I've ever seen a chuuba play a strategy game of any kind. Am I wrong, and what might the reason for this be? It's a wildly broad genre with a large demographic.

Unrelated, I also love this girl.

>> No.873039 [DELETED] 

>>872988
Holy shit stop it no one fucking cares about your dead fucking genre only /pol/roach incels play to larp as third reich.

>> No.873110

>>872988
they're not fun to watch, that's it.
The only exceptions to that are multiplayer and that comes with a whole other level of problems

>> No.873166

What are you talking about, the Holos play chess every so often.

>> No.873177

>>872988
Strategy games are a slow and boring game to play and watch
If people don’t want to watch jrpgs I can’t imagine someone wanting to watch someone play Hearts of Iron or Civilization

>> No.873205

>>872988
Some play Fire Emblem I think, but that's more of a tactics game than a strategy one. That is probably the closest you're going to get.
I think there was one that played Civ? Perhaps I'm misremembering.

>> No.873264

>>873205
Kiara's played Fire Emblem 3H I think, although only one route out of four, it's a pretty long game, and she did the shortest route at that

>> No.873308

>>872988
Kiara played I believe an entire playthrough of Fire Emblem. Its a bunch of women streamers. Id love to see a chuuba play one too but women and streamers are two types of people who dont like strategy games.

>> No.873371

>>873039
fpbp

>> No.873524

>>872988
Strategy game is too niche and frankly boring to watch, and I am a Paradox autist. Some of them play fire emblem, but that's it.
Speaking of Paradox I think one of the Niji ID (the blonde) plays Stellaris regularly.

>> No.873529

>>873177
Civ V
4 players
Doughnut
Start in industrial era
Turn timer 45sec
Only domination victory
Abundant resources
No Babylon or Korea

>> No.873542

>>873166
yes and it makes me want to stab my balls with a fork

>> No.873601

>>872988
Noone want to watch how someone read numbers and stuff. Strategy games are very good to play but not to watch.

>> No.874181

>>872988
Strategy games would basically be a zatsudan where sometimes the chuuba breaks away to do something in-game or asks chat for advice.

>> No.874212

>>872988
Urara played Civ 6 and is gonna play it again this week
https://youtu.be/h2kZsRN6Eh4

>> No.874237

Pretty boring. Most people don't want to stare at people who stare at maps and numbers for hours. Maybe if they make it a members participation game or something.

>> No.874414
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>>873264
She also skips all dialogue. Which I suppose helps get more tactics gameplay.

>> No.874918

>>874414
To be fair, Three Houses doesn't exactly have riveting dialogue. Black Eagles route especially. It would've been dumb to be a skipfag in Golden Deer, but that would also mean you need enough of a brain to play Golden Deer.

>> No.875051

>>872988
>learning curve issues
>80% of the games are history larping
>might take too long to strategize, which might bore the streamer

>> No.875084

Did you all miss the bunch of Indies getting into AoE2?

>> No.875207

>expecting Japanese female streamers to have anything resembling interesting game taste
Audible kek

>> No.877509

>>873166
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK4YT7lUyIo

>> No.877574

Closest we got was sim city Botan playthrough

>> No.877595

Majong is a strategy game

>> No.877640

>>873039
>>873371
Kek, i tried to play HOI 4 and got filtered. You have to have some supreme autism to play those games. I don't think women can have that much 'tism.

>>873529
Civ isn't technically GS, it's 4x. GS autists will get triggered if you imply otherwise.

>> No.877660

yeb hehehe

>> No.877689

Marine played Rimworld which is absolutely a strategy game. Fuck off.
If this was bait, you got me.

>> No.877938

>he doesn't know that RTS is the new indie meta
You haven't been doing your indie reps have you anons?

>> No.878615
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>>877640
hoi4 is where people get sent when they get filtered by other games.
I've finally moved on to other games but It took ages to acquire the spreadsheet and sperg powers required

>> No.879123

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS6KRubmne4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeYLwRS_XvE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9BUrGZQqOc

>> No.879959

>>872988
Women are too stupid to play RTS and Grand strategy.

>> No.880007

>>877595
coco and matsuri plays mahjong

>> No.880083

>>879123
I can't enjoy these because it's obvious she has, or at the very least had, a boyfriend who has made her like these games.

>> No.884371

>>872988
Kiara and Luna have played Three Houses. Good game

>> No.884473

Someone should play Valkyria Chronicles

>> No.884496

>>879959
Grand Strat views fall off hard after the first episode or 2. Even youtubers with hundreds of thousands of subs find it hard to retain viewers through out a campaign. Also they tend to be really niche games.

>> No.884505

>>879959
This but unironically.

>> No.884524

wait warmly for when pravus decides to go vtuber

>> No.884577

>>872988
May I present you, Layla Alstroemeria!
https://youtu.be/qS6KRubmne4

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>>872988
>>875084
>>877938
A lot of anons don't know about /wvt/ so might has well link them.
I'm tired so i'll only give you THE INDOMITUS RTS PLAYER THE ALPHA OF AUSTIST THE KING OF CLICKERS THE LORD OF LOGISTICS THE JUSTICIAR OF REAL TIME JUDGMENTS

ENTER... SYMMAKOS

https://www.twitch.tv/symmakos

>> No.884852

>>884496
To be fair, they're usually pretty boring. Even CK2 which is the best one I've played is a lot of just waiting.

>> No.885688

>>872988
Mio plays Mahjong. I think others also do.

>> No.885921

>>878615
Rookie numbers. I'm almost 1k hours into EU4. Sperg more.

>> No.885956

>>872988
idk
AOE2 DE is a great game but it's also a remake of a 20 year old one.

>> No.885978

>>884505
I wasn't being ironic.

>> No.885988

>>884852
Maybe I'm just a sperg but I disagree. Yeah it's a lot of waiting but I find the waiting to be fun... waiting for the right opportunity to make a play. Also CK2 is just a Darwin sim where you start a eugenics program in your kingdom or go full inbred.

>> No.886015

How do I encourage a SC2 pro player to become a vtuber?

>> No.886018

>>884524
I'm awaiting waiting for Arumba to be first gen Holostars EN.

>> No.886031

>>885988
fun to play, not fun to watch though

>> No.886044

>>879959
Statistically the grand strat fanbase is about 4% female... with a ton of them being trannies.

>> No.886079

>>886031
Fair enough. I really only watch them as a guide to playing XYZ country. MP games must be a meme fest though.

>> No.886123

>>873529
No one cares about these "restrictions" that only make people who are already interested in the game excited; it still looks like the boring same shit to normal people only maybe with 4 players you can get the girls to scream at each other if they're even willing to spend the time to learn it.

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886145

just play COH 2
even normalfags can't be bored with all the explosions

>> No.886174

Are Grand Strategy games the ones where you click a map a bunch of times and maybe a few menus and either try to commit incest or wait for something funny to happen?

>> No.886519

>>886174
Yes. Incest funny. Poland joining the Axis funny. France is now English is funny.

>> No.886579

>>886044
so 99% male then

>> No.886921

>>872988
we have this thread every week

>> No.887281

>>886519
You forgot minor nation conquer the world funny

>> No.890474

to be into strategy games you also have to be into nationalist shitflinging and thats a big no no for the big agencies

>> No.890542

>>873039
It's amazing to see /gsg/'s self deprecation come this far

>> No.891760

>>873110
>they're not fun to watch
They're much more fun to watch than most of the games they play now.

>> No.892556

>>890474
true whenever i play civ i cant be anyone other then england

>> No.893221

>>880083
How autistic can you be

>> No.893301

>>887281
my personal favorite is le 3v1 my smaller army won

>> No.893329

>>890474
Only if you're a retarded nigger.

>> No.894796

I've had hard time finding relatively big vtubers that play Shadowverse, which was top 1 watched esports in Japan. Hayama Marin hasn't played it for like 1 month now.

>> No.894869

Nobody wants to watch map games or strategy like hoi4 or Total war. Why? Because it's boring as fuck to watch and only fun if you are an autist like me.

>> No.895207

>>894869
Most of the major grand strategy channels on youtube have at least a few hundred thousand subs.

>> No.895256

>>895207
Yeah, there was a huge fad when hoi4 was released and people gained a few hundred thousand subs. Now that the fad has died down they struggle to break 100k.

>> No.895325
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>>872988
Ina Starcraft Broodwar when

she does have them gook genes afterall

>> No.895511

>>895256
iSorrowproductions does have good numbers, but he makes edited videos so I guess it doesn't count. If some bigger chuuba started playing it, I think it would be pretty clipable and get traction (at least for a while).

>> No.895543

>>894869
I think you underestimated the number of map autist out there.

>> No.895547

>>895511
but not without alienating 85% of the base fans in an instant

>> No.895744

>>893329
what do you think the chat consists of

>> No.895773

>>895547
Most of the current fans would probably not be insterested, but it's not like they have to watch every stream. 1-2 strategy sessions per month could be ok.

>> No.896674

The only way I could see it happening in an entertaining way is if a large enough group of Chuubas started a large MP game.

It'd probably have to be something easy to pick up though. I doubt it'd be a paradox game, probably something more along the lines of Civilization. Maybe Stellaris, since that games got a fairly forgiving learning curve

>> No.896783

>>872988
Strategy game, especially Grand Stragety make bad streaming materials
Maybe some mutliplayer broadgame like Risk or Civ for collab stream, otherwose it's gonna very boring for both the streamer and the fans

>> No.896959

>>896674
I have something just for you. https://youtu.be/EeYLwRS_XvE

>> No.897152

>>878615
I honestly can't get into Hoi4 because I was too used to Hoi3. This has lead me to the ascended plane of autism that is loving Vicky 2.

>> No.897228

>>896783
They also are great for multiplayer. The shenanigans are incredible.

>> No.897332

>>885921
>I'm almost 1k hours into EU4
what a fag lmao
Im at 2.5k hours

>> No.897469

>>897332
I can only barely play the game and I'm at almost 2k. I was basically playing like a complete retard at 1k.

>> No.897767

>>895511
I watched him back when he made isis hoi4 edgy videos. Those were a lot of fun but those were edited videos with a lot of the boring map starring you do in those games removed. Others do include Alex the rambler and that faggot Drew. However I still think its a horrible stream game because you have to fill the huge dead air with a funny personality.

>> No.897793

>>897152
Eh, hoi4 is the easiest map game to learn at least to me so its a great starter map game.

>> No.897957

>>873039
fpbp

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>>873039
das not rite wyte boi

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>>898065
this is the history the white man wants you to forget

>> No.899194

>>896959
>xenophile

>> No.899327

>>897767
>I still think its a horrible stream game because you have to fill the huge dead air with a funny personality.
It's like that in every game though.

>> No.899757

>>877509
That was amazing.

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>>884577
>May 2020

>> No.902184

>>900339
Well she might play HoI 4 or EU 4 in the future though. I'm not really sure why she didn't play it now but at least she played Stellaris recently.

>> No.904097

>>872988
>very slow pace
>requires intelligence and careful planning (problem for many vtubers)
>not very popular (most vtubers only play whatever will get the most views)
>complex games that need to be understood to be enjoyable (even if the girl is good at it, people who haven't played that specific game probably won't understand what she's doing)
>etc...
The most I can see them playing is something like a tactical RPG as in Final fantasy tactics, fire emblem or Valkyria Chronicles, but a real strategy game like Total War or Europa Universalis 4 is absolutely off the table, sadly.

>> No.904274

>>904097
Pretending to be a retard like Baqua and making cute noises like Korone gets views, who would've thought?

>> No.905160

>>904097
Total War at least has the spectacle of the battles going for it so I could see that being a thing, but agreed on the Paradox front.

>> No.905342

As an indie vtuber who's been streaming Paradox games recently it is a very niche genre and the intersection with vtuber fans is pretty narrow. But there is a small community on Twitch and I've had people wandering in wondering why an anime character is playing their autism map game and sticking around.

>> No.905391

>no strategy games
>papers please

>> No.905521

strategy games are debuffs

>> No.905533

>>905342
shill your twitch I want to watch some map game autism

>> No.905550
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>>905342
It's a genre where you're pretty much assured a small obsessive fanbase, but zero massive fame. Unless you make highlight vids like iSorrowproductions, Alex the Rambler, etc.

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>>895325
>Go to Ina thread everyday
>Check out when someone asks for what games should Ina play
>Reply Starcraft EVERYTIME
>Eventually she will see it
>Free korean RTS pro player GF

You may call this our real time strategy.

>> No.905767

>>872988
yeb

>> No.905794

>>905521
Slugma thought so too.
She was proven categorically wrong.
RTS are buff games.

>> No.905825

>>905533
https://www.twitch.tv/amanogawakei

>> No.905843

>>873039
Oh yeah, then why are the muslim terrorists the most fun fact in C&C Generals?

>> No.905973 [DELETED] 

>>905794
I didn't see that when Ame played HOTS. Then again, it was HOTS.

>> No.905992

>>905794
Civ isn't an rts

>> No.905997

>>905825
>EUIV
nice

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Tsunderia manager stream for CIV VI starting just now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJKtVoGx0ps

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906034

Malding /pol/acks in maximum cope and zero social awareness trying to somehow shoehorn, justify, brute force explanations for why their boring-ass social studies degree white supremacy simulator snoozefest genres should TOTALLY be played by a bunch of socially well-adjusted girls with anime avatars.

>> No.906064

>>905973
that's the blizzard debuff, not the rts debuff.

>> No.906083

>>906064
I was wrong anyway counting HOTS as a RTS. Had Starcraft on the brain..

>> No.906127

>>873177
I'd watch holos play chess, Mobas and starcraft

>> No.906192

>>906034
people wonder why RTS and strat games are fading away when a single look at them will make one realize that it's 95% /his/&/pol/ larping simulator
I'm pretty sure tactics games like Fire emblem and XCOM have a better chance of seeing play.

>> No.906211

>>906034
meds
immediately

>> No.906241

>>873039
fpbp as usual

>> No.906713

>>906192
Tbf games like Warcraft/Starcraft are a separate breed from these /pol/ history snoozers, so I guess it's unfair to the term "RTS" as a whole.

Also, go fuck yourself, janny. Read the first post in the thread and how it's hailed as "fpbp" everywhere while expressing the exact same sentiment that I have.

>> No.906949

>>906713
You're thinking of, like, three games total when you're talking about map-painting snoozefests - even saying total war is like EU4 or whatever is pretty disingenuous.

>> No.907212

>>872988
Kiara spreading KFP across the stars in stellaris when?

>> No.907849

>>873039
>implying you can only play as nsdap
either retard, rent free, or projecting

>> No.907890

>>873177
this, RTS games are boring to watch, they only fun to play

>> No.911883

>>895325
No blizzfagging Anon. Tell her to play real RTS like AoE2.

>> No.911927

>>896674
CK3 is pretty newb friendly and women love RP. You don't have to be good... just bang the pope and start drama.

>>896959
Imagine not being racist in Stellaris.

>> No.911965

>>897332
If you're not florryworry I don't want to hear it.

>> No.911988

>>898366
already more interesting then the average squeenix game

>> No.912048

>>911965
I mean his point is that you need several thousand hours to get decent at the game. I have almost 2k hours but suck in modern eu4, though to be fair to myself most of those hours were several years ago

>> No.912072

>>906127
And risk another Amechicken mess? Hell no. They were painful to watch even for the memes.

>> No.912153

>>906192
Not fading. Their Golden Age just passed and it happened before the age of Esports. But games like AoE 2 are still popular, Paradox is making a killing with its strategy games (Imperator Rome saw a revival even), EA did well with C&C Remastered and AoE 4 is coming. Strat games have always been niche.

>> No.912235

>>905825
Oh boy. Learning EU4 with forming Japan is like jumping into the Thunderdome naked with a stick. Good luck though. You'll find a lot of helpful people in this niche in gaming.

>> No.912264

>>912048
I know Anon. It was a joking quip. I consider myself ok at 1k hours but I'm probably trash. Haven't done WC, One Faith or any of the true Chad achievements and I just started playing on Hard mode.

>> No.912276

This board made me give 4ccg team suggestions to /vst/. You have no idea how much I want this. RTS is my most favourite genre of games. I don't care which one.
>>911883
Blizz did nothing wrong by 2002.
>>905610
Takos!

>> No.912977

>>884591
Based Symanko poster.

>> No.915726

>>884577
Layla pls play HoI4 or CK3, I need my history reps

>> No.916978

>>912153
>Paradox is making a killing with its strategy games
But this is awful.

>> No.923297

>>872988
Strategy games are not fun.

>> No.923504

>>872988
Maybe you can start the trend by playing them Risu

>> No.923717

>>886018
lmao, I remember back in the day, when Arumba was sperging the fuck out in EVE Online.

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