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Kiara talks about how they don't get to design their avatars (https://youtu.be/DKgypgdaSd0))

So I guess it isn't Sana's fault she's doing digital blackface

>> No.8635830
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You can blame management all you want but deep down you already know who caused this one

>> No.8635878

Not all of them. Is known for example Pekora and Rushia had input on their designs, even tho the theme and initial design of the entire gen had already been decided.

>> No.8635933

>>8635699
Kiara insinuating that she couldn't stand Sana's skin color. Fucking based.

>> No.8636038

>>8635699
Sana's skin is the same color irl as her model.

>> No.8636155

>>8635878
Yeah i think some of them at the very least had input on their designs including in EN e.g Gura and Ame

>> No.8636247

>>8635699
They don't chose the design but can alter somewhat the design, take as example Aloe design, she even add triangles and other shit to indicate that she was delta.

>> No.8636308

>>8636155
Yeah this seems almost certain with Gura at least. Calli talked about pushing really hard for certain design choices on her second outfit too.

>> No.8636535
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>>8635699
>said multiple times that she loves hats and specifically requested for two (TWO!) of them
>mentioned that she discussed and came up with multiple aspects of her shitty design with hukepapa (belt, skirt, thighs, etc)
>sees that everybody hates her design so tries to change the rrat that she had no say on it

>> No.8636688

>>8635699
Cover is going to have to deal with it.
Westerners aren't like their Japanese drones. Ame, Gura, and Kiara has all expressed their issues and opinions. I dunno if Calli has or not. But I don't see Ina being much if a dissenter.

>> No.8636774

>>8636308
I imagined they all had input on the second outfits at least.

>> No.8636933

>>8636774
Gura requested her second outfit be made to look like the girl from loli shogi.

>> No.8637113

>>8635699
>digital blackface
amerimutts are purely obsessed with race.

>>8635878
morel like its just a holo en thing because japanese designers cant totally take westerners orders. if they took it seriously it would end up being just like fucking shitty netflix anime or a woke cartoon produced by anglos. and if they didnt use japanese designs then holo en would instantly go into a decline.

>> No.8637187

Ofc they have input in their avatars... its dumb to think otherwise

Coco specifically asked for her oppai to be as big as possible, they were against it cuz "it won't look good" still it went through eventually.

>> No.8637389

>>8637187
So you're saying that Kiara was just spouting BS? She literally said that her model was finalized even before she knew it existed

>> No.8637510

They have input on the final design but the concept is predetermined.

>> No.8637548

>>8637389
>Kiara was just spouting BS
well..

>> No.8637636

>>8637389
>Kiara spouting BS
no way!

>> No.8637718

>>8637389
>So you're saying that Kiara was just spouting BS?
Yes I am.

>> No.8637824

Several of the JP girls auditioned for pre-designed characters. This is not news.

>> No.8638000

>>8636308
They can do whatever design they want for their second outfit, as long as it doesn't violate youtube rules, isn't too hard for the artist to make, or doesn't get voted for some other reason (politically offensive, too close to outfit copying of some other IP, too stupid like Pikamee's 2nd design ect).

>> No.8638051

>>8637824
Yeah I remember that the actual Haachama and Hoshikawa's VA applied for the same character as ''Akai Haato'', Hoshikawa was the first Hololive reject as we know now

>> No.8638186

>>8636038
Nope.

>> No.8638423

>>8637824
gen 3 were all pre designed. its particularly impressive that pekoras roommate created the unique accent/wording herself and made efforts to fit herself into the pre designed rabbit avatar. it was close to gambling too because her personal traits like "peko" couldve been totally fucking cringy.

>> No.8638520

>>8638051
If you watch Haachama’s Animal Crossing streams you can better understand her style, and appreciate how much input she actually had over her current outfit.

>> No.8638589

>>8638186
Yes it is, her face is known. Do your reps (not on the archive, somewhere else).

>> No.8638939

>>8638589
(samefag)
On second thought, it's indeed lighter. But quite similar.

>> No.8638956

>>8635933
Kiara love BBC

>> No.8640696

>>8635699
I guess the big question is how much was already decided beforehand. I know 1st gen auditioned for the characters, but it would be hard to believe that i.e. Pekora came about by chance. Or was what was decided basic enough she could morph it into Pekora? Surely they don't just search auditions for people who can fit whatever character they've already decided on...

Also, does this mean Gen 2 EN's shitty designs are excused and cover went cheap on them?

>> No.8640772

>>8637113
>amerimutts are purely obsessed with race.
hard not to be when it's smashed into your face every second of every day

>> No.8640891

>>8636155
According to what she said on the video, they only started being able to have proper input by the second outfit.
So my guess is that they had a say in the accessories on the first, but not on the characters.

>> No.8641129

>>8637113
Digital blackface was on us, sorry
T. Bong

>> No.8641293

>>8640891
Yeah, it sounds like the basic idea of the character is pre made but they have some input on color and other aspects of clothing and accessories. I also wouldn’t be surprised if Gura influenced the shark part of her character.

>> No.8642976

>>8635699
After having a friend constantly shit on Nijisanji over "vtuber models designed by committee" I feel some vindication over hearing this.

>> No.8642990

>>8640696
That's exactly what they do.

>> No.8643155

>Americlaps see tanned/ambiguously Brown anime character
>thinks it's suppose to be a nigger
About as dumb as the "all anime characters are white" bullshit

>> No.8644957

>>8635830
I don't understand

>> No.8645186

>>8644957
Moona literally scribbled all over her model because she didn't like the tits and got promptly scolded

>> No.8645294

>>8643155
pretty much, they don't know skin color isn't a "white / nigger" binary
she's indian if anything

>> No.8646704

>>8642990
Then you'd screw yourself out of good talent or interesting character ideas.

>> No.8646869

>>8643155
I still thought most people were memeing.
Anime/Manga characters: If there are no nigger lips/afro it's not a nigger.

>> No.8646881

>>8645186
What? The "scribble" was a burkha because it was a religious holiday in indog land.

>> No.8646883

>>8635699
It's no secret that Gen 1-3 was premade. Coco talked about how she choose her own name and Botan is a white lion who irl has 2 cats namend shishi and ron that's why some holomems call her shishiron instead of shishiro. The cats have, who would have guessed, white and black fur. EN, JP, ID, Stars are different branches with different rules. If Kiara had no saying in it then so be it oh and also there is the rrat that she was supposed to be a Gen5 until Polka took her spot and she was quickly shuffled to EN.

>> No.8647158 [DELETED] 

>>8635699
It's no secret that Gen 1-3 was premade. Coco talked about how she choose her own name and Botan is a white lion who irl has 2 cats namend shishi and ron that's why some holomems call her shishiron instead of shishiro. The cats have, who would have guessed, white and black fur. EN, JP, ID, Stars are different branches with different rules. If Kiara had no saying in it then so be it oh and also there is the rrat that she was supposed to be a Gen5 until Polka took her spot and she was quickly shuffled to EN.

>> No.8647330

>>8636038
wrong.

>> No.8648270

>>8646883
Thank god for that. Polka actually has talent.

>> No.8650336

>>8636535
>I think such so everybody must agree

>> No.8650525

>>8635699
Sana's roomate drawn herself as brown with too, and looked pretty similar to Sana

>> No.8652041

>>8637389
Kiara's design was originally a blond haired asuka, but Kiara wanted it changed

>> No.8652532

>>8635830
>>8645186
it was a joke for ramadan lol

>> No.8654308

>>8638000
Pikamee's 2nd design is cute. Don't see a problem with it. I am still puzzled how Tomoshika accepted or approved having an avatar that is sitting and basically in another angle that makes it awkward to set up in most cases.

>> No.8654671

>>8636535
>this much self-deception.
shrill chicken lives rent free in your cranium, bitch

>> No.8655635

This is thread op

If you watch the video Kiara does say that some people got full control, some people auditioned for a character, and some people got limited input.

Personally I don't actually think Sana is playing a different race to what she is- looking at random pictures you can kinda tell she's got slightly darker skin
Caption was just bait

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