/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Not trying to be ironic but are these really the absolute best candidates they had? Is the EN scene so bad that the best choices were simply average streamers? With how much you get from joining Hololive you would think that more incredibly amazing talents would be trying to get in left and right, titans like gura should be the average applicant but it seems that nobody like that even tried

[Anonymous No.]

your a fucking faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555094
Conservative company, please understand. They need bland chubas who won't make the company look bad. Talented people tend to be talented because they're driven to new heights by insecurity and past failures, which makes them too yabe for prim and proper organizations like vtubing agencies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555094
>Ina's nepotism hires
>Best candidates they had
You tell me. Ina completely fucked over a generation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555605
What?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555207
*you're

[Anonymous No.]

i like everyone enough so far and they could turn out great (judging from debuts is always dumb) but i really am surprised none of them had anything big to drop for their debut to really showcase why they got hired

i was expecting something as explosive as Please RIP out of at least one of them

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555094
a failed rrat implied that Owl is literally Gura 2.0 with million subs
But the rest... Yeah, kinda. We have an already-established ASMR vtuber, very small indie with a fuckton of experience, a decent artist and the rat is yet to be cracked.
Kronii and Sana are great, Baelz has some potential, but Mumei and Ceres are disastrous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555644
Sana is Ina’s coworker/friend, she helped get her hired.

[Anonymous No.]

Sorry amigo, Niji EN scouted the best indies, enjoy your nepotism hires and other random rejects

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555605
>networking
>nepotism
retardchama...

[Anonymous No.]

NijiEN took all the good talent left and even then they also ran out of it (see Petra)

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555946
What the fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555965
If they were actually any good you would be watching them instead of shilling. Nijifag away, because we don’t need you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555605
More like shae saved it. The only 2 good ones. Imagine how shit the other EN auditions must have been if Mumei unironically got a spot

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555605
>Ina's nepotism hires are the only two whose powerlevel is above 5
Based Tako

[Anonymous No.]

I think after the risk and insane success they had with EN1, Cover took a very safe route for GEN2 to not rock the boat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555094
Where is this coming from? Did you guys fail to make the cut and now you're shitting on them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555997
Sana drew this, she is a really good artist apparently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555946
And Mori tried to get MilkyQueen into Hololive and failed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555965
>>8555993
If they are so good why the need for shilling

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555993
They certainly took all the thots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556087
Sana has done stuff for FGO and Arknights. Good artist is an understatement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555993
How will Hololive survive without the gaping size-Queen stinky fish?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556173
Which operator?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555094
nijiEN fan here, I still don't know how Elira, Pomu, Selen, and Rosemi avoided being scouted. I just know Finana didn't make the final cut. Petra isn't experienced so that I understand.

But...how do you not scout Pomu/Mint?

[Anonymous No.]

My only major gripes atm is Cover still having a general lack of polish in the debuts. They spend all that money on the promo videos, but they still can't get their talents to do a dry run to make sure the tech is setup, audio levels are good ahead of time, the presentation is semi-professional, etc.

Is it that hard to set up some unknown dummy accounts and practice with an unlisted stream 1-2 days before? The Council stream was embarrassingly slapped together.

Then I wasn't fond of Hakos spending what felt like a third of her EN debut dialogue in Japanese. I can understand what she's saying, but she wasn't actually repeating what she said in English, she was saying different things that would require translation for the EN audience to understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556072
I'm not shitting on them, they're not bad but they're nothing special, I bet you that if someone like pochi knew english she could have gotten in holoEN if she tried

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556255
Mizuki

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555094
As a Nijifag, I think EN2 is great! I don't care about big dick content creators, I prefer girls who actually have a passion for vtubing

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556296
NijiEN probably already chose their finalists before Hololive announced their auditions. It was a 1-2 month gap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556334
Maybe she should have tried to learn English?

[Anonymous No.]

Sana --> artist more talented than Ina, held back by her bad design.
Kronii --> pro voice actress or something, good addition.
Baelz --> why is she here.
Mumei --> why is she here.
Ceres --> pro ASMR performer

I think 3/5 are good additions. Sana would be much better with a good design.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556364
holo1 still came before niji1, they could have got Pomu instead of Kiara, for example.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556087
That's nice she's a good artist but she wasn't hired authentically. That's ridiculous she got hired because she has connections to Ina. No wonder Fauna is the only good one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556296
Pomu/Mint auditioned before she debuted as Mint, so she would've been really inexperienced at the time. If she applied now she'd have a good chance I think. But she's clearly a Nijifag hence why she applied for NijiEN instead of waiting for HoloEN2 auditions.

[Anonymous No.]

They just debuted. They'll most likely get better with time

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556022
>>8556129
>saying truth is shilling
nice cope holoniggers :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556411
I think they wanted to cover a gamut of personalities and tastes again, much like EN1.

I loosely see analogs between Sana/Kiara, Kronii/Calli, Baelz/Ame, Mumei/Gura, and Ceres/Ina.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555965
I think Selen is better than any EN2, but her personality wouldn't really fit a godlike character (aside from maybe chaos).

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556346
Damn they gave her a 6* operator and Ina a 4*.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556411
>Ceres
Was she actually genuine profesional ASMR? I never heard her backstory or roommate about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556296
Can we burn Pomu posters already?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556561
no. she will grab your balls if you try.
https://streamable.com/82i0yo

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556512
Yeah but Gura is charismatic as fuck. People don't appreciate this or take it for granted. And she's the best singer in all of hololive. And has a strong meme game, in fact the strongest meme game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-4lFe-gnjc&t=355

Do you see anything like that level of talent from Mumei?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556460
>That's ridiculous she got hired because she has connections to Ina.
Welcome to the real world, champ.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556587
She can try, she won't win

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555867
The reveal that Sana drew the Holo Council art should've been a major bombshell but it felt almost like a throwaway line during the council meeting. 'Oh by the way the giant space baby is a professional artist on the level of Ina BUT WHO IS OMEGA?!?!?!'

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556552
Not professional like Patra, but it was very good, she streamed asmr weekly on Twitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556403
You don't get the point, she wouldnt want to join anyways, but someone of her caliber which is basically just an average streamer but a great artist would easily get in holoen with how low the standards seem to be

[Anonymous No.]

Nepotism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556522

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556613
gura says she's actually extroverted
her singing is promising but we'll need karaoke
she also plays her character the most, to a fault

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555946
Fitting that the so called "nepotism hire" is the most talented one in the gen

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556296
Pomu got hard rejected from HoloEN1. Honestly the right choice by cover

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556496
>>8556511
>>8556514
>>8556587
Gross little nothings, get back in your containment threads. No one was talking about those failures. You are just embarrassing yourselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556773
Actually worse sameface than Ina

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556773
>Nobu
The signs were all there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556801
>Mumei will become the Kiara of her gen and will enforce unity instead of khaos rat
Hell yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556840
calling others embarassment when this exists is pretty ironic, holobrony :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556840
Pretty much yeah. They can't even point out why their liver is great. The only answer I will get is entertaining. if they really entertaining they would already be at least half of kuzuha sub.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8557011
>sex voice
>sex chocolate body
>transparent skirt
>a literal shitposter
Yeah, dunno, seem like you have a severe case of faggotry there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8557101
>sex voice
stopped reading here, holy mother of cope lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>8557011
She is more talented and already more successful than all of NijiEN, keep coping. Go make another off topic post or entire thread for those insecure failures,

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555094
Kronii for sure, the rest, debatable

[Anonymous No.]

>>8557133
>not liking her sex voice
Not really helping your faggotry case there, buddy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555094
Anyone with Gura’s former clout wouldn’t wanna to split their income with cover or deal with management bullshit. Gura was an odd case in that she wanted to start over

[Anonymous No.]

>>8557011
At least she doesn't speak chink language.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8557164
>not even half of ogreface Irys' subs on debut despite being mainline chuba
>nepotism hire that had nothing to offer herself
>success
I need to stop answering to those copes, holobronies keep making the most pathetic shit up lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>8557011
/pol/tard spotted

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555094
>literally less than a week out and this retard is already passing judgment.

EN1 didn't fire up 3 fucking days after the debut, you know. If we were 3 months in and they were still bland then you'd have a point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8557101
>sex voice

Australian accent is perhaps the least sexy accent out of all white anglosphere accents. Well, South African and Scottish are worse but not by much.

[Anonymous No.]

Pretty based to deliberately make the debuts bad so as to fuck over the hopium inhalers

[Anonymous No.]

>>8557489
Shit taste

[Anonymous No.]

>>8557489
>hating africat's accent
Is it a hearing problem or a taste problem?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555965
>NijiEN
>no nepotism
anon, you can't be this retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8557835
As I said, that anon has a terminal case of faggotry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8557309
Keep shilling and deflecting whenever anyone mentions that NijiEN are complete failures. No amount of shilling or attacking Irys will change that. The least subbed member of HoloEN has more subs than 5/6 of NijiEN, keep coping faggot. (Note: Elira currently has 14k more subs than Sana, for now) Niji must be really boring if you spend you time shilling in Holothreads instead of watching their streams and discussing them in the Nijithreads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555605
>>>1
Being friends with the current talent is a legitimate reason to someone in a job where getting along with the current employees is critical.
One of the biggest risks they have to take in hiring is whether the new hires will get along with everyone else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8557463
I'm sure the others aside from sana will magically develop a real talent in a few months time even though they should have been talented in the first place to even get in(ASMR is not a talent btw)

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558000
Don't answer to the retardchama, literally the only way you can get up in a tech job is through networking. It has only been declared a crime in the public sector, and given the name "nepotism".

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558013
>(ASMR is not a talent btw)
Poggers for daddy

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558013
Kronii is already professional

[Ayame-ich. No.]

>>8555997
Sana and Kronii are all Ina recommendations.
Ina won the nepotism war

Which literally happens in every work environment, I mean, don't be a retard, if you had the chance and knew Roberu of something I would definitely use it to get in hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558088
I recall one of the Holo girls who got scouted in JP said that it only guarantees an interview which you still have to pass.
In Sana’s case she’s a professional artist who has worked on FGO and Arknights like Ina.
If you haven’t noticed, Cover really fucking loves FGO and keeps hiring their artists to make their models.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558157
Wouldn't it be nepotism anyway since he's OUR SON?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8557954
ok but why nobody's listening to her, thought she's a singer?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558208
Well, as I mentioned, Cover looks at big numbers. It's why IRyS is a thing (not complaining, though).

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558157
And you know this how?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8557835
Don't even know who/what that is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558013
Yeah because we already knew what people like Amelia were capable of from day 1. Give it time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555094
Not even close. The Nijis have been recruiting better talent recently then Hololive. Honestly it blows my mind Cover didn't grab Pomu. That girl would be such a schizo/gachikoi magnet in Hololive. Literally has the Lamy transformation meme in her fanbase, plus she's dying. Would've been a superchat goldmine for Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8557095
And the only reason you guys can give is numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558115
At what? At pretending to be baby's first dom? Her live singing is ok I guess even though she sounded better on her preview song

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558367
If Niji is better, why did they recruit the fish then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558367
Too bad nijiEN is a failure of an experiment.
The JP branch is basically a separate entity and doesn't realize that the EN girls exist. They also can barely afford a manager.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8557869
You're the one who's getting turned on by Stewe fucking Irwin.

That's pretty gay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556419
How could they scout someone with literally no body of work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558452
>not getting turned on by Steve motherfucking Irwin
Who's the faggot now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555094
I haven't watched hololive in months struck in NijiJP hell but I think they are good. You guys just had ridiculously high expectations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558256
Stop deluding yourself that noone watches her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558256
They don't promote it at all. They didn't do any cover premiere streams and aside from Irys tweeting it or mentioning it on stream it gets no coverage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558350
Yes? We knew Mori was a music creator, ina an artist, kiara was the jp bridge and an ok singer, gura a great singer and amelia was a shitposter. From the second gen I only know that sana is an artist and kronii might be a singer but her live was nothing impressive, the rest haven't shown a single talent (ASMR still isn't a talent) and you honestly fucked up if you didn't show what you were capable of in your first streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558429
Cause it's Niji anon. They recruit everyone and their mother. Them rejecting Pomu was such a fuck up. Literal saviorfag magnet.

>>8556296
This, glad I'm not the only anon that sees this. Idk about the rest of the girls cause I don't watch Niji cause I'm not a cuck, but Pomu is literally a gosling magnet. Apparently Rosemi is too so they fucked up hard not going after her. Might be better for the talents though cause they'd have a way bigger schizo fanbase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558544
>took a fuckton of time
>hyped the gen to hell and back
>one of the most prestigious positions in the entire vtuber sphere
Literally nothing wrong about having high spectations about them, if anything cover's standarss were too low

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558583
> the rest haven't shown a single talent
You must be retarded or a zoomer. They haven't even done a whole week and even a whole month of streaming. Fuck Mumei hasn't even started her first stream after debut. Stfu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558583
TIL talents dont exist if this specific anon doesn't enjoy the content. ASMR is certainly a talent, one that brings in big bucks and views.
There a million vtubers you could be watching yet your here posting about how these 5 aren't your perfect match.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558256
Irys barely acknowledges that they exist, there’s some weird management things going on behind the scenes with them.
She mentioned she wasn’t allowed to premier or monetize them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558271
reps

[Anonymous No.]

Guys, why didn't Cover scout people who didn't debut as streamers until after auditions were closed. They really dropped the ball on this one by not using time travel to get good talent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558736
So you are blowing it out your ass?

[Anonymous No.]

It's pretty shitty that people speak with such confidence on topics they know nothing about.
>>8558367
Pomu always wanted to be a part of Nijisanji, go look for the minute long clip from the ghost maid. She is exactly where she wants to be.
>>8558447
The baseball streams immediately prove this wrong. NijiEN were the MVPs of the Koushien. https://streamable.com/ez6h3x
The Lazulight girls also chat with their JP senpais almost every day on Twitter.

I get that this is a shitposting split thread but at least try to put some effort in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558664
Mumei is going to be like Watame that is probably going to produce her own songs
Kronii is a VA so she's going to be focused in games. With how 12mins went, I'm pretty sure she will be clipped to hell and back
Sana is a shitposter. She will easily find something to prop her up. Much like how Coco is.
Fauna is GFE Rushia
Baelz is going to be like Mio but zoomer version. She's easily the most outgoing that would probably have better social reps than Kiara. Since Kiara is probably shadowbanned among HoloJPs except Subaru and Nene

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558447
I'm to lazy to numberfag but they seem to be doing pretty decent numbers. They don't have any big number streamers but if they maintain all their streamers getting like 20-30k views per vod and then flood the market with a fuck ton of vtubers, it wouldn't be a bad strategy to reel in viewers. Plus, we have yet to see how the male vtubers do. It wouldn't surprise me if one of EN male vtubers blows up. Honestly Cover should do Holostars EN already. It would cause controversy with the goslings but that controversy would push them to the limelight and might cause Westerners to saviorfag the Holostars. Plus they can just kill the controversy after it dies down and they get free advertising by just having a collab ban with Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555094
nice blog, holo reject

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558967
Why do you think she's shadow banned? I dont dont watch her

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558666
I'm telling Gen showed their biggest talent stream 1, Gen 2 is mostly mediocre in terms of talents outside of sana. This position in hololive should be reserved for the best and most talented people, it's simply disappointing that they aren't particularly better than other EN streamers
>>8558719
Porn brings views and money and I wouldn't call someone who does audio porn talented. And I'm only complaining because someone that got in should be a wonder woman, they had to beat thousand upon thousands of applicants yet what we got was simply average

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558906
Despite them have a native JP speaker and Pomu who has some JP knowledge they have yet to have a collab with JP (no the literal whos do not count)

[Anonymous No.]

>diversity hiring
>BLM vtuber
>HR manager who tweets about trans shit
this is hololive EN at the moment

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556613
>And she's the best singer in all of hololive.
Don't try to turned this thread into another singer thread you faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558906
That's cool. I'm not talking about what the talents want anon. I'm talking about a money perspective when it comes to Cover. Apparently she auditioned for Hololive anyway and got rejected so who knows how much of that is sour grapes too. But nonetheless Cover really fucked up not taking her. But honestly EN's talent scouting has always been pretty crappy. Their most successful EN member was just Cover being numberfags and recruiting the big numbers vtuber. Honestly, if we're being realistic they probably should have added Nyanners too despite all the controversy she brings because of how successful she's doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8559149
It's not like nijiEN is any better. They have an actual dyke in their lineup.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8557954
Amen brother, and on that note HoloID, Holost*rs and any holo that dips below 5k viewers should be axed to keep the bloodline strong

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556820
Based Ina has good taste

[Anonymous No.]

>>8559041
The only people that showed any promise in the beginning are Gura and Mori in the beggining. Kiara and Ame were a mess and Ina didn't seem to fit the streamer sense but lo and behold they all acclimated. Gen2 all have a strong sense of individuality that is important. They aren't just streaming games. They all have goals that shows what kind of streams they want to do. Cover is probably more happy with that since none of them are even remotely focusing in being a gamer except for Kronii who will mostly shit on any games she plays which is fine by me

[Anonymous No.]

>>8559183
I thought holobronies are all about yuribaiting

[Anonymous No.]

Does it not bother anyone that OP used the word "ironic" incorrectly? Not even in a funny way, they're flat out using it wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558271
I spent a year trying to find a job with no success.
Got a job at a company my mom works for because she recommended me.

If you had to pick between a field of qualified candidates why would you not go for the one who also has a recommendation you trust?

I have no idea how true this Ina rrat crap is but if it is it would not be surprising.

Nepotism is how the world works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556460
>Fauna
>good

[Anonymous No.]

>>8559183
i'll take a dyke who talks about liking women once who plays doom/MC all day than a tranny who brings politics into it. LGB in most cases is fine. T should get shot in the head tho

[Anonymous No.]

Ina aside isn't that the same for en 1? Just average streamers.
Oh and a failed musician.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8559251
Adapt or die old man

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558839
holy shit, do your fucking archive reps you fucking retard. It's a fucking common knowledge if you are here during their debut. Start searching on the archive, keyword "sana" "nepotism" "ina"

[Anonymous No.]

>>8559279
>cant adapt to reality and kill yourself at a 41% rate
>says others to adapt
are you a stand up comic?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8559324
inject bleach

[Anonymous No.]

>>8559279
Oh no, guess I'm nonbinary now I don't wanna die. Maybe hololive will hire me

[Anonymous No.]

>>8559251
nijiEN is full of SJW who literally promotes shartemis and tranny tts dragon

[Anonymous No.]

>>8559305
I don't think randoms posting on 4chan counts as evidence anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8559354
even if I did, I would still live longer than your kind.
let me ask you again, are you a stand up comic? because you have a knack for giving the people punchlines

[Anonymous No.]

>>8559057
https://youtu.be/NqNqbG3j9mo
https://youtu.be/R1T_JoECUB0
If 300k subs is literal who status, then I don't know what to tell you.
Plus, Elira's japanese is better than Pomu's at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8559413
nor do redditors like you who lick cover's boots

[Anonymous No.]

>>8559385
You boomers are literally old man simpson and it's hilarious.
No longer with it and terrified.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8559223
Let's be real anon. The only who are actually above the rest as streamers is Gura and maybe Mori/Ame. Ina is extremely replaceable and Kiara is terrible. Hololive EN's talent scouting has always been overrated. If it wasn't for Gura blowing up and carrying the gen, know one would be jerking off Hololive's scouting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558367
This.
Holobrony here. I thought that niji had quantity over quality strategy. I really held my expectations high knowing that hololive had overwhelming popularity on the west and they managed to get very good talents for their 1st gen.
Pomu and Selen are actually very good, so I thought that they managed to get even better people, yet we get what you saw. Because roommates got much numbers.
I love IRyS though

[Anonymous No.]

>>8559247
No I get that. I'm just trying to figure out if it's true or not because kronii seems to be the best one so far

[Anonymous No.]

>>8559475
That's pretty toxic anon I'm a member of the lgbt community now. If this was twitter I'd have you lynched for this insult

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556460
>hired authentically
NEET detected

[Anonymous No.]

>>8559305
>believe shit posts on 4chan

[Anonymous No.]

>>8559413
why are you like this? i'm being baited aren't i?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8559519
>I love IRyS though
the hazing and rude antics at the beginning where they would do geurilla streams during her time (ame/kiara/gura) is proof that they were mad, cover didnt ask their decision to hire irys. just for that, I'll support irys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8559544
weak and cringepilled

[Anonymous No.]

>>8559519
reminder that /vt/ was shitting themselves over the possibility of Miki being in Holo En2, but somehow her being in Niji is a shit choice lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>8559543
The point is that even if it is true it doesn't mean they are incompetent or bad. Just lucky to be competent and also have connections.
Nobody is getting a job like that simply because they know someone. But knowing someone helps separate you from the sea of applicants

[Anonymous No.]

>>8559599
anon, there are literal evidences with pictures & their connection from sana's past life livestream holy shit. Do your fucking reps, i want to post the pictures and evidence but i don't want to go on a vacation again

[Anonymous No.]

>>8559644
One day you'll look back on your life and realize you'll never get better. Consider suicide

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558967
>Fauna
>GFE
yeah, there is one man that gets GFE from her and it is noone from her viewers. Imagine going Gosling for taken chuuba

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558604
Pomu is deathly sick so she'll never gonna make it. Cover needs their talent healthy for concerts, events, etc

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555094
>Not trying to be ironic but are these really the absolute best candidates they had?
Real answer? No, but that's because the amount of candidates was ridiculously big. Cover couldn't properly evaluate every single girl so Nepotism came in to help them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8559784
dont worry, everyone knows what you're talking about. even the tako you're replying to.
he's just baiting so cover jannies will find a reason to take you out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556460
Do you hate Mio and Korone and Okayu and Pekora and Polka too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8559784
I'm not digging though archives because a potential schizo claims it's TRUE

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556326
Last time we were made aware of someone doing a secret dry run of their model and setup it was Aloe and we all know how that panned out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8560219
I only watch ame from hololive EN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8559625
You'd think it was innocent but it did seem weird that Gura played the same game over Irys week 2 despite Irys schedule coming out days before Guras, and Ame doing an unarchived 3D karaoke over Irys the same week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8560041
>Miko
>Ayame
>Rushia
And others who are also sick. Plus let's be real here anon. Pomu straight up dying would also be good for Cover. Think of how many saviorfags that company would get if Pomu literally dropped dead while in Hololive. Pomu would literally be enshrined in a golden casket from all the superchat revenue and merchandise sales they would get.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8560219
i knew it, thanks anon. I'll learn not to take the bait easily next time

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556411
>pro ASMR performer
And that's a good thing since?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558367
>Literally has the Lamy transformation meme in her fanbase
Elaborate

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558367
Pomu has a boyfriend, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8560286
People will give Fubuki a bye for literally carrying the company on her back for a time. There was a time she was the golden goose, she was the one that brought in viewers, she led in subs, and was a locker room leader on top of that. On top of that Gamers was an experimental "gen" in the first place its not like Fubuki hand picked gen 3 (which as much as I love Okayu and Korone they can't outdo gen 3)

[Anonymous No.]

>>8560472
You better rev up your ratt engine with 11 streamers using the same timeslots now.
Just imagine all the slighting going to happen now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8560750
trannies started spamming lamy transformation thread for males wanting to become women, they did this to support @rtemis. it has such intense support by the jannies even though its rule breaking that if you talk about the topic being off topic and nothing to do with vtubers/any streams , you get a vacation for weeks.

I have no doubt cover interns mod that general along with global and some other EN1 generals

[Anonymous No.]

>>8560472
Don't forget the fact that she got two collabs 1 hour each in two weeks after collab ban. IRyS is getting bullied and only I can save her

[Anonymous No.]

>>8560850
No the opposite actually, she admitted to having an ex-girlfriend which sent a bunch of goslings over the edge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8560869
Overlapping is bound to happen but overlapping the exact same game despite one being scheduled ahead of time? Thats kind of blatant. Imagine Gura scheduled spore today at the last minute over Fauna lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8560869
>rrat
irys released her schedule a week ago and gets guerilla streamed by ame/gura
the next day by mori/kiara again. if you think that's just a timing co-incidence, you're smoking some good shit or just a redditor who doesnt like hard truths

[Anonymous No.]

>>8560907
Yeah and also the time they invited her for that guerilla collab just to mess with her sleep schedule

[Anonymous No.]

>>8561048
Theyve done better about including Irys now but if you dont think there was some resentment, especially based on Kiaras comments about support from Cover with music youre just being delusional.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555924
>a failed rrat implied that Owl is literally Gura 2.0 with million subs

Yes, she is that person with 1M subs who has stirred a shitstorm on /vt/. Yes she also does popular memes.

Her actual singing outside the audio effects, is pretty but bland, as can be heard in the Country Road cover. She isn't able to transition into the strong head voice that Gura and other singers have, especially during that "I belong" part. And in her debut song, she still uses minimal vibrato. In her defense, she can draw better than Gura. And she is confirmed to be lurking here with that amber post.

There are enough similarities to compare Mumei to Gura. But at this point it is unrealistic to expect her to have the same success.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8560969
What game was this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555094
No of course they were they all got in through cronyism.....
If you think for a second out of the thousands of applications they got these were the best you're an absolute idiot

[Anonymous No.]

>>8561048
One where Kiara called her disgusting or one where they didn't explained her what Phasmophobia even is and didn't bother to instruct her.
Also Ame mentioned that they all watched debiuts of holoEN2, but without IRyS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8560890
I like tf but I am not a tranny, too bad most people who like it are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8561342
Irys is in Japan and was in 3 streams in 24 hours the day before debut, she said she fell asleep halfway through. If you look at the debut chats she commented on the first two, and none after that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8559673
Lol keep trying to revise history, fag. VTs reaction to her was:
> too much yab with the backstabbing
> not a good enough singer

[Anonymous No.]

>>8561219
>And she is confirmed to be lurking here with that amber post.
Are you mentally challenged?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8561342
Doesn't living in your ratt world get exhausting?
I don't come here often but I already want to leave.

Imagine you autists actually thinking the talents lurk here. This isn't "serious, unfiltered critique", this is just a feeedback loop of unverified abuse.

If I worked in hololive I wouldn't spend a minute in this cesspool.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556840
That's a typical nijibeggar personality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8561399
what is it and why do trannys like it

[Anonymous No.]

>>8561098
Got I fucking hate Kiara. How the fuck did she get in Hololive over fucking Pomu. Literally fuck Cover. Pomu would've been great in Hololive. The fact that I can't even gosling over Pomu cause she's in Maniji with their gay ass male collabs makes seethe like a motherfucker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8561630
Because they want to be women for real but they will never will be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8561590
>I don't come here often
we can see that, go back to plebbit before your "good feelings" decrease to 99%

[Anonymous No.]

>>8561630
I think he means transformation fetish

[Anonymous No.]

>>8560940
I don't get goslings. Wouldn't this mean she's never been dicked? The fact she had an EX-gf means that it didn't work out, which means she could be more open to guys. Wouldn't goslings like that? I'll never understand them...

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555605
>Ina's nepotism hires
More like they were probably begging Ina to get some of her top tier artist friends to join. Its a fucking catch for Cover you retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8561590
Yes. 4chan kinda sucks. You can't give gold to kind strangers and you don't get ones for bashing racism and your wasectomy. You can go back. I understand

[Anonymous No.]

You have no idea what their hiring process looks like. They have to weed out so much shit just to make sure the idols aren't schizos or psychopaths.
And only then do you get to the interview process which apparently has multiple stages. For all we know they simply mogged the competition there.

Gen1's talent set surely also played a role. Which is probably why they didn't hire any god tier singer or musician in general. ASMR GFE tuber for example is something EN was lacking. You got Sana being an artist like Ina but apparently she doesn't even want to do art streams and may or may not be a literal nepotism hire by the gook. Other than that their niches are fairly different from what we can see.

I imagine their past careers also matter a lot. At least in their EN hiring, Cover doesn't seem to care that much about skills acquired through indie bullshit, they want real tangible career cred. Even "talentless" and "literally just a twitch thot" Ame had actual pro voice acting experience.
Now if you look at Council, Sana is a prestigious artist, Kronii is a pro voice actor with multi-million view videos, Fauna also has high amounts of views on her ASMR channel.
I didn't look into Mumei since she is boring trash but apparently she has 1m subs or some shit.
Rrat is a mystery because nobody has doxed her yet afaik.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8561590
I can see some talents coming here but I don't think they would touch global or any EN thread at all, aside from those threads the rest of the board is relatively normal, like the ID threads are completely ok

[Anonymous No.]

>>8561973
In no world does Kiara mog anyone. The accent alone should have filtered her and got her eliminated.

[Anonymous No.]

Let me get this straight, the vtuber that is confirmed to have SHAT ON HER FANS CONSTANTLY, BRAGS ABOUT HER BF EVERY 5 minutes, and was accused of backstabbing, the most legitimately bitchy attitude of all of them,is the supposed Lamy and Rushia of EN2?

Pfft
pfffffft
pfffdaahahahahahah okay, okay that was funny, you can stop joking now people arent that pathetic

[Anonymous No.]

>>8562095

[Anonymous No.]

>>8562075
>KIARAKIARAKIARAKIARAKIARAKIARA
Rent free.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8562095
How could you say things like that. Everyone I hacked into his camera. Lets stalk picrel anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>8562095
i read this as shat on her face constantly

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555094
not every english woman is a weeb my boy, very hard to find weeb talents

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555399
>won't make the company look bad
> Shachi

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555605
I bet you'd prefer orcschizo just so she could absolutely destroy the rest of hololive en. You don't actually care about hololive's success. You live off of the drama.

[Anonymous No.]

Unironically, Enma may have filtered better talents away for her fucking autistic rules. HoloEN is great on the surface until you join and suddenly it becomes a pain in the ass to collab outside of Hololive with your friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8560969
ิas if the en girls have a plenty choice of games when it comes to permission
also that game suits perfectly for gura

meds

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556087
good artist, shit entertainer

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556126
Milky is better than the Koikatsu planet though

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556296
Anon.. they want someone who alive for at least the next two year. Pomu's days are numbered anon, prepare to cope soon

[Anonymous No.]

>>8562662
Shachi seems kinda sweet, why is she bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>8562445
She does make me seethe, I'll give you that. I still don't watch her though and never will.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8560394
That didn't have anything to do with her problems.
It was only convenient excuse for cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8560666
Noel..choco.. hachama..

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555094
I agree, with the meteoric rise to the mainstream after EN Debut, you would expect a lot of high quality contestants to choose from.
They are not bad by any means, but Gen 1 absolutely blows them out of the water, even fucking Kiara.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8563017
Her surgery was preventative, so that she would be around for 50+ more years. She's just going through recovery now, she'll be fine in a few more weeks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8563283
Blame EN management for their policies, which likely filter the best away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8560969
as if the en girls have a plenty choice of games to choose when it comes to permission
also that game perfectly suits for gura

meds lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>8562662
as someone who missed this, what did she do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8563283
I don't know who you were watching but the debuts for EN1 were a mess.
Full of nervous talents tripping over their own feet and giggling nervously.

It's been 2 days.
Maybe wait a month or so to crucify them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555965
this is obvious bait, and the fact that it works is hilariously pathetic
never change, holobronies, never change.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8563735
She had made a tweet talking about her boyfriend. goslingbros died. Many still in denial. Then she deleted the tweet. Streisand effect led to even more shitstorm. It is still in the internet archives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558367
I gotta agree with this. The latest wave is really entertaining with some heavy hitters like that schizo psychedelic dude. Heck even that lain girl is entertaining. NijiEN is entertaining when there's 2 or more of them in the screen but stand alone? Kinda boring ngl, which is why im a little worried about their own personal growth. But welp, knowing nijisanji, althought slow, they have quite steady incline rate, and lots of events to prevent them from going stale. As long as there's no yab ofc
But yeah these EN2 are kinda weak, but i believe in cover since their recruit so far has potential and grow more as time goes rather than having some outstanding talent from the start. Just please dont be a lazy cunt like gura who barely putting efforts on making contents. She is the only one who doest seems to improve this past year

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555861
*your

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555094
I think they have everything they need to outshine EN1. Gura will still be the EN Queen, meanwhile Shachi needs some time to grow and develop as a Holo, Bae is just extremely competent and Time is out there mogging everyone at moment, expect her to be above EN1 besides Gura, probably on the 12k range.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555605
And it’s funny cause Sana is the shittiest one with the shittiest design out of all of them, not too mention boring horoscopes astrology streams.
Thankfully she’s the lowest in subs bitch sucks

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556773
Sana is a based nobuchad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8563914
They were a mess because they were rushed but it doesn't matter anyways since just looking at their past lives show that they were good choices at the time, the current should be better since holo is even more popular but it's just average people, no one groundbreaking like gura or mori, and yes those 2 broke grounds in their first day

[Anonymous No.]

>>8561590
>If I worked in hololive I wouldn't spend a minute in this cesspool.
https://web.archive.org/web/20210130053546/https://twitter.com/ayunda_risu/status/1355387468917293063
you don't know anything just like >we don't know anything. Stop acting like you're superior. And go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>8561590
>>8564483

oh noes. Is your faggo raid going poorly? Did you think about joining the 41%?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556087
I don't undestand why she avoided mentioning the fact what she's illustrator in her debut at all. I guess Ina had it easier since she barely posted non art post on her account and her artstyle is nowhere as specific as Sana's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8564628
don't reply to me you dumb frogposter

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558367
>The Nijis have been recruiting better talent
Not true at all. I'm not going to roommate post but all the Council + IRyS are supremely talented individuals with a long history of content creation. They are all EXTREMELY high spec and that will become apparent as they break out of their shell/debut awkwardness a bit more and eventually get to do collabs. Hell its already happening with IRyS and stuff like that Ollie interaction is going to go a long way to draw people to her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8564829
>don't reply to me
>PLZ!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556522
and a damn good 6* at that, compared to the shitter brawler class that Ina had to design. Jackie's cute, but ultimately fucking useless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8564478
Mori was fucking unwatchable for the first month.
What are you even saying?
Nobody even did anything special other than Ame.
They just read their bios and sang a song.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558382
not a numberfag but this was a retarded line

could literally see your monkey brain foam at the mouth desperately mashing that attempt at a comeback

[Anonymous No.]

>>8565317
>Nobody did anything special for their debut other than Ame
I mean, I would consider Mori having a fully produced original song complete with a music video ready to go on debut is a pretty special thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8565211
He's the one who posted the archive link you autist.
Maybe you should take your own advice and neck yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556514
I want to try watching them, but it really turned me off that the first stuff they all tweeted before even debuting was being slutty. You should pay at least token lipservice to your lore for the first month or so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8565465
Yeah but she was a disaster for other reasons.
I don't doubt you idiots will find shit to obsess and ratt about after a few weeks passed and they get settled but is it too much to ask that you at least wait that long?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8565317
Gura became a massive meme on debut and blew everyone away
Mori made a song and mv for her debut in an incredibly niche genre and made it popular
In fact ame had the worst debut of all, she was the one that became better over time

[Anonymous No.]

>are they the best
>ina hires an art friend
no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555094
numberfag hires
multilingual hires

Personality isn't priority for the EN recruitment

[Anonymous No.]

>>8564980
Gee where have I heard this before...
>anon who has been waiting a year for EN1 to break out of their shells

[Anonymous No.]

you could have had Mint, Miki, Nova, Doki

instead you get friends of existing ENs

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555094
hololive is now entirely a matter of avoiding yabs rather than being inventive, this is obviously going to lead to less unique content. I'd genuinely recommend nijien if you want something more "out there" while still being mainstream enough to not be scuffed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8565854
What did Ina and Kiara do?
And I don't know where your standards are if saying "A" is blowing everyone away.
Everyone's debut was somewhere between bland and a cringefest.

EN2 and IRyS was much more watchable overall.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555605
Sana and Kronii are the only ones with actual personality though. Watch the collab stream, those 2 bounce off each other naturally. Everyone else struggles to form coherent sentences and makes awkward comments. Mumei can't even respond when addressed directly, she's autistic in the bad kind of way.
Ina's picks are the saviors of the generation. And what kind of collab stream is "let's watch the stupid melodramatic lore videos again" anyways? Jesus Christ.
At least Sana tried to do something unique and Kronii played an interesting game.

[Anonymous No.]

EN2 is fine compared to launch EN1. They are getting compared to current EN1 who had a whole year to figure out their content and character.

EN needed an asmr streamer so that niche is filled. A nepotism backup artist is a safe pick; easier to schedule art projects. A singer and two general streamers working different hours to round out the schedule. EN2 fills the gaps well

[Anonymous No.]

Where is the talent on par with Pikamee, Pomu, Patra, and so on? Are these really the best non-major talents that beat out thousands of candidates?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8566268
imagine auditioning and getting rejected cause you didn't suck off the boss...or an EN1 talent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555094
all of them have potential except the autistic owl girl, but she's the saviorfag choice so she will be a success anyway.
they just started, remember Watson's debut?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556411
Kronii is a PRO VOICE ACTRESS? I thought that RRAT was destroyed already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556248
this attitude about vtubers being "pure" is exactly why hololive is so boring now

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555207
fpbp

[Anonymous No.]

>>8566441
like Marine and Matsuri

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556296
considering some of the nonsense nijien gets up to I wouldn't be surprised if they went for nijisanji over hololive intentionally, shit like nkodice, minecraft with elira, etc. would likely either not be able to happen or would be heavily nerfed in hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

Literally the best they could do was

>Snooze Owl
>why would anyone watch her
>Koikatsu planet
>Ok
>Timewench
>stop fucking pandering
>Mother nature
>ok, but pretty boring
>Rrat
>best one of the gen, still like a 6/10 at best
>Transgender manager
>yikes

How the fuck are these the best people hololive could get? The audition process was hyped to fuck, people were talking about it for weeks.

Vshojo are doing auditions now, when they BTFO this shitty gen it'll look really bad for Cover.

YIKES.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that EN1 was rushed by months to cover up aloe's drama, and mori was still ready with 2 entire songs. The EN2 don't have anyone as talented as her despite the fact that a ton of people should have auditioned

[Anonymous No.]

>>8566879
>Vshojo are doing auditions now, when they BTFO this shitty gen it'll look really bad for Cover.
Looking forward to the numbers retardchama

[Anonymous No.]

>>8566394
If she was a pro VA people would have already doxxed her real identity by now

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555094
All the promising rejects for Gen 1 got into Niji or EN upstarts instead. Leaving the lower tier Gen 1 rejects to get in on their second attempt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8566943
Calli even wrote that talentless owl's song for her
Hololive doesn't deserve her but they're lucky to have her

[Anonymous No.]

>>8566972
I don't even care about numbers, I care about watching streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8566364
To be fair Sana is a better streamer than Ina, so the nepotism pick ended up sorta okay

[Anonymous No.]

>>8566596
those two were hires before the attitude got as excessive as it is now, and if you want evidence of clashing marine has had to nerf her swimsuit outfit to keep up with hololive's current standards (I don't really care about that but it's an example). Mention any holoen able to talk and generally do things freely without having to worry excessively about catering or self-censoring and I'll stop talking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8567081
People already did you dingus. They know her entire trajectory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8565530

[Anonymous No.]

I thought EN gen 2 and Mumei in particular killed it personally

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555605
I mean, Fubuki did amazing with her Nepotism hires.
They must have thought it'd go equally well

[Anonymous No.]

I kind of wish at least one of EN2 would have been action or FPS gaming focused. But on the whole I think all 5 are at least alright

[Anonymous No.]

>>8557463
Gura did with a and ride on time. Literally the only reason Myth garnered so much attention.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8567376
>Mention any holoen able to talk and generally do things freely without having to worry excessively about catering or self-censoring and I'll stop talking.
Kiara, though she mentioned that because she'd worked with japanese companies she knew what came with the territory. Still, she was open about a surprising amount of stuff during the Mario Kart stream, to the point where I was surprised a manager didn't step in at some point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8558157
>The two worst ones are Ina's recommendations.
Sugoi...
Rat is high energy and Mumei/Fauna are cinnamon rolls, but the other two are weirdos who will probably yab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8565317
>>Mori was fucking unwatchable for the first month.
implying she is watchable today

[Anonymous No.]

These bitches are so overdesigned, and the only one with big tits is the darkie? Big L for Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

Looking at Kronii's past life (low sub number/ different personality altogether) tells me at least with her Cover wanted to cover a specific part of market demand = domme. They got an actress to play that since good luck finding a natural domme that is already a popular vtuber. My guess is that is the same case with at least the rest of them. They had an idea or niche to cover and they got the best they could for the role. And yes. This is the best they found after they gimped themselves by wanting specific characters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8568007
I don't know how to break this to you but EN2 did covers in their debuts too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8568437
To be fair she’s watchable for 95% of the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8568437
She is in fact much better now. But even her fans would admit that it was physically panful watching her at the start.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8568437
Her Valentine's Day stream won me over. It wasn't the typical GFE thing, she basically made a parody of it all, with the climax being Ghost Rider showing up and her eating a stick covered in mud.
Also she was pretty silly in the Phasmaphobia collabs
>GIV'US A SIGN

[Anonymous No.]

>>8568548
Just how rotted is your brain that only Sana is a big to you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8568697
Yeah I hated the YO SUP DAWG BIG UPS FOR THE AKASUPA HOMIE era
She's improved 100x since then
Still, I miss the goofy posts making fun of her autismo wigger demeanor from time to time though

[Anonymous No.]

>>8568579
And they suck. People were talking about City Pop Shark for weeks after debut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8568710
She did the funny Christmas date, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8566364
Why are people so upset about Sana?
Do you really think that she only got in because of Ina?
It's pretty clear to me that she got in by her own merits, Her debut was unironically one of the most entertaining and she has a lot of artistic talent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8568988
Nepotism is a direct fuck you to everyone who applied. It's literally sucking the boss off for a job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8568879
I was more talking about her whipping herself verbally for every little mistake but there were lots of issues.

I don't know if that was intentional and just poorly executed or not but it was really cringe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8556087
>drew herself with the biggest tits

based?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555965
Too bad their best girls have shit models. Those dragon models are huge debuffs

[Anonymous No.]

>>8557011
>4chan deleting blackface
Where did it all go so horribly wrong that it ended with a reddit without usernames.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555207
This. Fuck this trash ass board

[Anonymous No.]

>>8569129
It's not enforced, but it's always been a rule. You were probably being a faggot in some other way too.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Sana is the most competent EN2 streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8555094
Nijisanji EN, Prism Project, and Phase Connect are ALL better. They didn't force an ugly brown girl either. Hololive really fucked up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8568943
That's a nice objective opinion with no bias you have there.

[Anonymous No.]

REEEE WHY AREN'T THESE ANIME GIRLS ON THE INTERNET TO MY STANDARD?!!?!

kys

[Anonymous No.]

I feel as though they went with "good enough" this round. They just wanted more EN characters up to accompany Myth. If they plan on adding more then I'm simply going to ignore the existence of most of them, because when you strip the avatar away they don't offer much, which can be said for any other vtuber but at least the Myth girls have some form of entertainment to offer aside from their characters, though that's my opinion and it's certainly subjective. Because if they just hire whatever is good enough, they're going the JP route of building up a humongous roster and the quality control is absolutely not going to be there. At that point they will become Niji but with more game restrictions because Cover can't get permission for shit unlike Niji, so it's literally going to be more people that just play minecraft and apex, which defeats the fucking purpose of having more people if they just aren't gonna stand on their own and only have the Hololive name to hype them up.

There's only so much "cute" and "comfy" one can stand before it becomes a repetitive bore. At some point people are seriously better off watching indies on twitch or just normal streamers without the corporate restrictions and huge roster to deal with AND the huge overlap and having to choose. So much choosing and overlapping for nothing, because the only ones that will still stand out are the ones that try.

[Anonymous No.]

The two Ina hires are the only ones with an actual personality

[Anonymous No.]

>>8567206
She's made it into a Hololive gen so she's got more talent than you

[Anonymous No.]

>>8569045
Nepotism implies that she only got it because she was related to someone in a position to hire her.
She likely would have gotten in regardless of who she knows so it's not like she was handed a spot without qualification.
If you have a friend tell you that you should apply for a position at the company they work at and maybe put in a good word for you that isn't nepotism.
You still have to have the experience and skills to pass the hiring process.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8570145
why do auditions at all then? just have friends recommend 5 people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8570145
She could have been completely unnoticed if she didn't have the recommendation, she has a clear absolute advantage over every application if she has the recommendation, not gonna atgue that she isn't talented but pretending she got the job fair and square is reaching

[Anonymous No.]

>>8569350
>>8569245
I agree with both of these, why dont Holofans just move on and watch entertaining vtubers outside hololive instead of pushing their unrealistic expectations of what they want in a vtuber for HoloEN2 when those examples already exist outside of it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8566025
>>anon who has been waiting a year for EN1 to break out of their shells
And they did, and theyre super successful. Your point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8570504
Like I said, you still have to have the qualifications for the position. What Cover is looking for might not be what their friends have to offer.
>>8570617
She's a professional artist, do you really think that application would go unnoticed?
That's like saying someone like Avril Lavigne has an advantage over an indie band for booking a venue.
Obviously they have an advantage because they're already a popular well known person.

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>>8569350
>niaposting
:O

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>>8571262
the spot might as well not exist if they pick a nepotism pick over the 1000+ candidates. just recommend 5 people.

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>>8556411
>Baelz --> why is she here.
Kiara got greedy and tried to appeal to both JP and EN audiences at the same time and she ended up annihilating a portion of both and she never recovered.
Baelz is very high energy, an ESL and she reminds me so much of Kiara but with a more forced personality like Ollie.

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>>8556087
When's the art stream?

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>>8570050
That's not how the world works dumbass

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>>8567490
proof

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>>8556296
They wanted to avoid the Domo clique

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>>8571523
I already explained why it's not a nepotism pick and why this doesn't happen.
EN 2 would be full of Mori's friends if it worked like you're trying to suggest it does.

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>>8571262
Yes, simply because of the absolute sheer amount of applications they must have got, she could have been simply skipped over because the scouter doesn't have the time to check her entire background, with a recommendation she's gonna be one of the first ones to look at and she doesn't need to rely on luck. And do you think she was the ONLY big artist to audition? Of course with the artist's rec then she has an advantage over all the other artists

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>>8556411
If baelz is really that Myholo girl then they hired her to tardwragle. She's completely miscast though. She's more ORDER than CHAOS.

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>>8571920
no employee should be involved in auditions. none. this is literally "getting your friend in".

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>>8566879
>yikes
cringe

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>>8571920
>hey this girl can be good
>ok we'll check her first
>sana fills a spot instantly without relying on the luck of the draw that the scouter checked her application
I don't see you having the right argument in this

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>>8556411
Owl was a numberfags hire. The real question is why did they hire two talents with a similar personalities in the same gen.

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nepotism is based if the person you're taking the rec from can be trusted

wagies stay mad

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>>8572414
their personalities aren't actually similar

fauna isn't shy and has her yandere shtick

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>>8556613
Bro, her past life account had over one million subs.
'Big numbers = great streamer', right?

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>>8572426
NOOOO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HIRE THIS RANDOM METH ADDICT INSTEAD

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>>8572414
literally numbers

all you had to do was watch 5 minutes of her previous streams to know she wouldn't have been a good Holo

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>you're a talented indie
>you audition for hololive
>hololive chooses Ina's and Mori's friends who are shit as streamers instead
That's why

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You just know all these posts crying about nepotism are indies that didn't get in

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>>8572943
Sure is copium in here

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>>8556613
>And she's the best singer in all of hololive
She's not even the best signer in EN

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>>8556613
>Gura is the best singer in all of hololive
Typical mentally handicapped Cumbud. Please an hero yourself

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>>8572000
That's making a pretty big assumption about how the application process would go.
Assuming that there were other equally well known and skilled artists that applied, then yes Sana would have an advantage by knowing Ina.
Cover would obviously want to hire the person that they know will be able to fit in and have chemistry with one of their other streamers.
To blow this up and suggest that the auditions are pointless because other people have no chance is ridiculous.
People apply for jobs all the time and the same rules apply even for positions where how well you can get along with your friend doesn't matter.

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>>8574192
If you're gonna take a rec from a talent might as well do what fubuki did and just get all your friends in without even doing auditions for the characters, don't even have to worry about synergy then

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>>8572150
How "involved" do you think Ina was in the process?
What makes you think that they wouldn't have picked her if she wasn't Ina's friend?
>>8572233
This is making a huge assumption that they immediately let her in and didn't check any other applications.
There is no reason to think that her application wasn't considered against others.

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>>8574733
1000+ submissions and it just happens a close friend gets in? cmon.

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>>8555094
Give them a month or two to settle in.

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>>8574542
As someone already said, Mori recommended Milky and she didn't get in.
The power of a recommendation is minimal. There is absolutely no guarantee that you will get in.

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>>8574733
Sana has a clear advantage over everyone else, there's no way to argue against this, you have no idea either whether she could have been chosen if she wasn't ina's friend and just that fact means that she does have the odds on her favour just for being ina's friend

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>>8575019
How many of those were professional artists with the same experience and skill?

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>>8575268
When and why would she say that? Or is everyone just making the assumption since milky did want to get in?

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>>8575019
At least 90% of the auditions would be shit.

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>>8575408
You and me have no idea. But it's a spot on fucking hololive, you seriously think that she was the only one?

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>>8575589
That anon is lowballing it, JP gen 2 had 1200 and hololive was a fraction of what it was, you're at least looking at 10k+ auditions and that still seems low when sending an audition is so easy

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>>8575383
That advantage isn't going to be as large as you think.
You have no way of knowing that she wouldn't have been chosen if she wasn't Ina's friend.
What makes you think that she wasn't chosen because she was the best pick to fill the artist slot?

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>>8575560
Why are you assuming that Ina pushed hard for Sana but Mori didn't for Milky or any one of her other friends for that matter?
All we know is that they were friends with people that applied. If that is all it takes to get in then Milky would be in.
>>8575746
Who knows, the entire industry could have applied. That still doesn't mean that they only chose her because of Ina.

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>>8576187
Yes anon, the advantage is fuck huge, the mere fact that you had eyes on you is already enough of an advantage over everyone else, how many auditions do you think were completely skipped over accidentally or on purpose? And when one of your big talents recommend someone you're clearly gonna have a bias towards that person just from hearing about them, scouters are not as objective as you might think

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>>8576838
It's merely a coincidence that the one artist they chose was ina's friend, clearly there was simply no way that the scouters might have been biased

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>>8575942
And so am I.
90% would be actual garbage.
And then 9% would be not good enough.
Finding a nugget of gold in this landfill is a pretty tall order.
Getting a recommendation helps but it won't matter unless you are in the top 1% anyways.

If they did get recommended it doesn't mean someone better would have otherwise gotten in. The chances are slim.

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>>8569350
>niaposting
that's rare

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>>8577131
Assuming Ina pushed her application forward and there is some reason that they would skip over a well known artist's application otherwise, yes that clearly would help her.
Under those specific and somewhat unlikely circumstances she would have skipped the lottery of getting her application seriously looked at.
She would still need to be the best pick out of those that had their applications looked at.

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>>8577422
When your friend is a well connected industry professional it isn't that large of a coincidence.
If I'm friends with Bill Gates and the tech company I work at hires him for some reason, would you be upset that it wasn't fair he got hired just because he's my friend?