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83417293 No.83417293 [Reply] [Original]

Would you support Cover redebuting inactive models with new voice actresses?

>> No.83417484

>>83417293
Why? Anime girl designs are a dime a dozen just make a new one

>> No.83417520

>>83417293
Wait, what is going on with Gura?

>> No.83417603

>>83417520
>would you still watch me if I became a sunflower?

>> No.83417630

>>83417293
How about I kill you and wear your skin? Then rape your father, for being such a pussy that he raised you?

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>>83417603

>> No.83417734

>>83417630
That's not how you become a vtuber

>> No.83417779

>>83417630
You need to be 18+ to use this site

>> No.83417814

>>83417293
>>83417484
4/6 of them are terrible. Mel's design is good but extremely generic. The only great loss from graduation was Rushia's model

>> No.83417939

>>83417814
What I’m saying is who gives a shit, anime is not art it’s a product, just produce the next one and move on

>> No.83417965

No

>> No.83417978

>>83417814
Biggest sad of losing Mel is there is no chance that NotMel will ever choose a model anywhere near as much seggs as that. All her followup outfits covered herself up more and more.

>> No.83417984

>>83417293
Yeah, I always thought the people who freaked out about this kind of thing are stupid.
As long as you're open that you're doing it and don't try to sneak it through in an attempt to fool anyone, I don't see the problem. I think that's why it failed before, because they thought they could just quietly do it and nobody would notice.
Mickey Mouse has had half a dozen different voice actors over the years and everyone is fine with that.

>> No.83418071

>>83417293
subtle bait thread

>> No.83418141

>>83417293
Jesus christ. This is probably THE most newfag question you could possibly ask.
Lurk another thousand years.

>> No.83418163

>>83417984
>comparing mickey mouse to vtubers
Retard, opinion discarded

>> No.83418196

>>83417293
Worst bait.
They was there when the Kizuna Ai debacle happened.
Not even Niji is that retarded.

>> No.83418332

>>83417814
Most of them have much better outfits which is why it's a shame to lose them, because you don't just lose the model, you lose a bunch of good outfits too.

>> No.83418357

>>83417984
You are a legit retard and do not watch or understand what vtubers are or why replacing the person behind them doesn't work. It's insane to think there are actually still downs syndrome having anons like you here who still think this shit is some kind of TV show.
Like you are actually legitimately retarded.

>> No.83418625

>>83418071
There are multiple threads shitting on Gura's laziness every single day. Subtle is not what I would call it.

>> No.83418658

>>83418357
nta but while it obviously wouldn't work for the vtubers that basically just stream as themselves, I think for the ones that play a character like FuwaMoco you could probably get away with it

>> No.83418723

>>83417814

Agreed desu. Rushia's model was incredible.

>> No.83418921

>>83417293
Only shit Sana, but not without revisions. That was an absolute failure by Cover.

>> No.83418969

>>83418658
>ruffians, One of the MOST paradoxical and schizophrenic fan bases
>being fine with them getting replaced by a new VA
Your dad must have swung you by the leg headfirst into walls repeatedly when you were a child.

>> No.83418995

>>83417293
Anon trolling extremely hard yet subtle way.
It reminds me of when 4chan was actually good.

>> No.83419120

>>83418969
bro why are you projecting your daddy issues all over this thread?

>> No.83419119

>>83418969
>paradoxical
Schizophrenic I get, but what do you mean by "paradoxical"?

>> No.83419574

>>83419119
Nta but guessing parasocial autocorrect? Always knew ruffkeks were phonecucks lmaoo

>> No.83419727

>>83417603
>would you follow me in my next life as a sunflower?
Gura wasn't subtle with that question and she was testing the waters. Cover really needs to learn how to negotiate with their talents so they don't end up with more Aqua style graduations in 2025.

>> No.83419824

>>83418969
Ruffians don't give a shit about FWMC as people, they care that there is a woman giving them attention. They'll accept anyone who can jiggle those virtual tits that does the same

>> No.83420172

>>83417293
No. Final answer.

>> No.83420192

>>83417293
Fuck no, people don't just watch VTubers for the model and voice, they watch them for the personality of the person behind the model. If you replace the person the personality will be completely different and everyone will hate them

>> No.83420379

>>83420192
As long as it's a new personality and not someone trying to impersonate the previous pilot I'd be fine with it

>> No.83420541

>>83417293
>implying Gura hasn't already been dead and replaced for over a year now
>implying the new Gura wasn't Mumei
>implying the new Mumei isn't Rushia
Miori is gonna take over in case Nerissa dies. There's a flowchart somewhere.

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>>83420541

>> No.83420606

>>83418969
>>83418357
You're getting really angry about this. It IS like a TV show. Vtubers are not real people. I see why this is impossible for you to wrap your head around because you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what vtubers are. You mistakenly think they are real people. I can see why someone under this delusion would be resistant to change, but in the end it is you who is under a delusion.

>> No.83420725

No, once a jp artist makes a model and you are assigned it, you are spiritually linked to the design. It is the most deplorable form of blasphemy to break that bond. It's why Kizuna Ai was cursed

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>>83418995
OP here. Sadly these kinda bait threads don't get much traction on /vt/, I guess you gotta be more direct or the retards won't even register the message that's being implied.

>> No.83420809

>>83417814
Rushias model isn’t that good

>> No.83420835

>>83417293
If you're not a parasocial fuck attracted to the person behind the avatar then sure. I'm just tired of my worries getting swept aside by virtue signallers always bringing up their real life to shutdown any arguments when something happens on their streams or post. When you care for the person behind the avatar you'll get called parasocial because of course a viewer shouldn't worry about others real life you "don't know about",and when you care for the vtuber persona more you'll also get called parasocial. Just fucking sepate reality and fiction already and be done with it.

>> No.83420874

>>83417293
No

>> No.83420962

>>83420809
it is probably the actual best that Hololive has ever produced, what the fuck are you talking about?
>>83420727
don't impersonate me, and also kys, frogposting faggot

>> No.83420991

>>83417293
I would support (You) keeping yourself safe

>> No.83421018

>>83417984
I think it's fine for corporate mascot vtubers (like Sonic or whatever) to change VAs. You're there for the mascot, not necessarily the person playing it. Other than that reusing designs isn't really viable.

>> No.83421078

>>83418995
>subtle
Are anons these days really so retarded that this counts as subtle?

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oh come on, no one would be genuinely upset if they reused this model

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>>83417293
Do it you dumbass mother fucker I dare you I DOUBLE ARE YOU

>> No.83421809
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Shark

>> No.83422041

>>83417293
the way people react to Sana and Coco is nauseating so no unless you want Cover to get flamed
>>83417984
>>83418357
>>83420606
it's more like a TV show cause they've been written out like a character whose actor can't continue for any reason
the designs should stay dead and treating them like mascot characters will alienate viewers
if they ever were to come back with new va it would be the idea of the other suits and not yagoo, and if those guys are calling the shots it's not hololive anymore

>> No.83422220

>>83417293
why would it be a problem?

>> No.83422276

>>83420962
Character design-wise, Rushia is not even in the top 5 best, anon. But va chemistry with the character? 10/10 mikeneko is the ONLY perfect va for Rushia's character.

>> No.83422482

>>83422276
name 5 better than her.

>> No.83422560

>>83422041
What about coming back not as a vtuber but an ip? Like being included in
games, anime etc with the behavior similar to how they acted in the past but with a different va.

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>>83417603
>>83419727
she can't become the sunflower
she lacks the... gravitas

>> No.83422799

>>83417814
The model is worth nothing if it's tied to a shir personality and Rushia is as bitchy menhera as can possibly get(except for maybe that one girl who ripped out her nails)Only her simps believe otherwise

>> No.83422814

>>83422560
If Gura does become a sunflower, I think this a likely action on Cover's part. There is no way they just set fire to millions of dollars because some weeb got bored

>> No.83423009

>>83422799
You are conflating Rushia and Mikeneko. Rushia wasn't like that. And frankly neither was Mikeneko until she was subjected to years of bullshit harassment

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>>83422814
Well I'm basing my thoughts on Gura to be honest, With her long breaks the image people have of her now is the image she portrayed in the past and even so people still buy her merch based on that perception.

>> No.83423345

>>83417293
Give it a couple years and they'll just have AI take them over with a recreation of their personality and voice. Hell, they could probably do it now

>> No.83423378

>>83422560
>>83422814
>>83423225
Isn't that kinda what they're already doing? She shows up in animations and merch and stuff. The best part is Cover's a bunch of cheapskates so they don't have her speak, they just have her looking cute. She serves a useful purpose for them.
Honestly I could see them getting extra ballsy and having someone else silently playing Gura in 3D for concerts and stuff.

>> No.83423447

>>83423345
They may have even done it already.

>> No.83423557

>>83417939
It's just a product, so why not reuse the model instead of spending more money to make a new one?

>> No.83423570

>>83417293
Imagine them debuting a new Kiara, no longer german, no longer has any of those quirks you expect from Wawa. Hard pass man.

>> No.83423585

>>83423345
It's doable with today's tech. There was even that replika ai that was originally made to replicate a person that passed away close to the creator, using the past messages of the person to replicate their personality and behaviour.

>> No.83423825

>>83423570
I bet they could debut an Austrian in her place and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference

>> No.83423880

>>83417293
Never

>> No.83423889

>>83423447
Which Holo is most likely to currently be an AI? don't say roboco

>> No.83423972

>>83422560
That does sidestep the issue of >>83423570

>> No.83424291

>>83418141
this is the newfag board, retard. you're unironically an oldfag if you got here before council.

>> No.83424372

>>83423889
roboco

>> No.83425234

>>83424372
one job

>> No.83425471

>>83417293
No.

>> No.83425551

>>83417293
No. Redebuting new voices for retired models sounds like a great way to turn the former fans of a retired/filed talent into your most virulent haters.

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>>83422560
>>83422814
>>83420606
There is no way you aren't a troll. How are you seriously this fucking new?
What part of "the avatar is their roommate" don't you understand, you subhuman braindead worm?
Fans would go apeshit if someone skinwalked their oshi. Get the fuck off this board, you colossal melanin-enriched tourist baboon.

>>83419824
Real fans care about their oshi as people. FuwaMoco's roommate's subs have skyrocketed since they joined hololive and so have all the other girls.
You are seriously fucking retarded if you think fans wouldn't care. Them being twins and living together isn't something that can be faked. You don't even watch fuwamoco or any other vtubers. What are you even fucking doing here?

>> No.83426847

>>83417814
Rushia and Coco were good designs

Aloe was fuckin god tier tho

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>>83426564
>skyrocketed

>> No.83427296

>>83426939
Not their only account. The ones they're active on like twitter and patreon had their subs go up by 500% in the last year.

>> No.83427396

>>83427296
to what fraction of their Holo subs?

>> No.83427533

>>83427396
I don't know the exact number of how many members they have. But it's probably between 5-10k. Which means that 20-40% of members pay $15 extra per month for one monthly RM stream.

>> No.83427875

>>83418196
>Not even Niji is that retarded.
Well, I ain't so sure of THAT anymore, though I do agree that OP is a retarded niggerfaggot.

>> No.83427892

>>83427533
so way less than one percent of their youtube subs give a shit about their RMs.

>> No.83428167

>>83427892
>2k patrons
You're a fucking idiot. I'm talking about members. AKA their actual fans.
And you are still supremely stupid if you think their personalities, interests, and everything else that makes them "them" isn't the reason why their fans like them. And it's the same as every other vtuber.
You can't replace the people behind them because they ARE them. You're just too much of a dumb cunt to see past the anime girl png and you don't understand that fans wouldn't stick around if the model was great but their personality was shit.

>> No.83428218

>>83428167
*Quote should've been
>5-10k members
>2k patrons

>> No.83428696

>>83428167
If all their "actual fans" disappeared tomorrow FMWC would still be immensely successful. You don't matter as much as you think you do. The general audience is what's important, and they don't care who's behind the model

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>>83417293
>ctubers
>from cover
anon, you are asking for a 8th trumpet event

>> No.83429011

>>83423889
Ai Koyori

>> No.83429074

>>83417293
Yes, but I would rather see them create new ones.

>> No.83429305

>>83428167
I feel like too many vtuber fans have forgotten/weren't around for Kizuna Ai's "Multiple Ai's" thing. Same model, same format for videos, but changing the actress behind the model killed Kizuna Ai's momentum like running head-first into a brick wall.

>> No.83429671

Honestly depressing seeing people (rightfully) crucify niji for mistreating talents and then turn around and try to argue that skinwalking a graduated talent wouldn't cause a shitstorm.

>> No.83429994

>>83428696
>The general audience is what's important, and they don't care who's behind the model
Literally everything all their fans say says otherwise as does the history with every company that's tried that. But you're too much of a newfag to even know about Ai or Game-bu.

>> No.83430055

>>83417293
>High pitch but without the strange donald duck sound for Coco
Kek
>Grouchy milf smoker voice for Mel
Kek
>Perfectly sounding stacy OL voice for Gura
KKKEKK
>Shota voice for aqua
AAIEEEE
>Super high pitch voice that could rival a submarine sunar Sana
AAAAAA
>Deep milf voice that could shrivel any man on the planet while putting shota in constant fear non menhera Rushia
AAAAAAAIEEEEEEEEEE. THIS IS IT YAGOO DO IT FOR THE KEKS

>> No.83430333

>>83417293
no, the people in charge are almost universally retarded and would take a successful replacement as an excuse to begin muscling out the ones they consider troublemakers

>> No.83430355

>>83430333
you say that like Hololive wouldn't be massively improved with a cull of like 20% of the coasting talent

>> No.83430365

>>83426564
Do I really need to know about their roommate to be a "real fan"? Previously it was you need to be a member to be a "real fan", and before that you have to be a stream watcher to be a "real fan". I really don't need to attach myself more closely to the point of parasocialism just to be considered a real fan.

>> No.83430458

>>83430365
ruffians are the "dox is good, actually" fanbase

>> No.83430889

>>83430355
anyone who consistently gets their ideas and niches strong-armed by management will be put on the chopping block

>> No.83430985

>>83426564
lol I never noticed the wooloo

>> No.83431118

>>83430365
You're not a real fan unless you jump your vtuber's roommate in public and manhandle her for at least 10 seconds.

>> No.83431117

>>83430365
They said that you're a real fan no matter how you choose to support them, even if it's just stopping by to watch a stream once in a while.

>> No.83431163

>>83430458
That word really has lost all meaning here, huh?

>> No.83431204

>>83430355
it wouldn't stop there. it starts with getting rid of people like la+ then you want marine gone because she does things like force a mv past your retarded restrictions

>> No.83431627

>>83429305
We got incredibly lucky that shit blew up in their faces as much as it did back then for the aftereffects to still be felt today. I can't help but feel that some corpo will try again in the future though and I pray it sinks whomever tries

>> No.83431707

>>83431627
why do you care? if you don't want to watch Gura 2.0, no one is forcing you

>> No.83432102

>>83417293
no, because it would feel like reanimating a corpse

>> No.83432328

>>83417293
No.

Rather, I would prefer they give the model to the former employee to do with as they please.

>> No.83432799

>>83432102
I mean, that sounds very appropriate for a necromancer.

>> No.83433161

>>83417293
no

>> No.83434102

>>83430355
>First they came for the Holostars, and I said nothing because I was not a homobeggar...

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>>83417293
Eh

>> No.83434344

>>83417293
the concept of IP really makes people think in really strange ways

>> No.83434573

>>83422814
if they do this people will start boycotting cover out of spite
it's just disrespectful to her memory

>> No.83434660

>>83431707
at this point you're either trolling, playing "devils advocate" or are just plain stupid. a model is to a vtuber the same as a suit is to a CEO, if you put that suit on some random homeless person and have them show up at the office things are going to go south pretty quick whereas the CEO could show up in a swimsuit and things could carry on pretty much as normal.
simply put, the model is just window dressing, a barrier between the streamer and audience which, while essential, can be anything from a bland, boring png to a surperb rig with all the bells and whistles. if the person behind gawr gura is unimportant then why are all the "gura killers" failures? why do so many popular vtubers get dozens of lookalikes only for them all to languish in obscurity.
replacing the person behind a vtuber isn't like replacing an actor on a tv show where the character is more important that the person playing it. it would be like killing asmongold and streaming on his channel while wearing his skin. the original is dead and "asmongold 2.0" is merely an imposter hoping people are too stupid to notice

>> No.83435227

>>83434660
yeah that's why cover makes millions selling shit with pictures of suits on them, retard

>> No.83435273

>It will never work because muh Kizuner! Muh gamebu!
Difference between those two and Hololive is that both Kizuna Ai and the Game Club were active when their voice actors got replaced. It's a different thing replacing something that's already gone like in Hololive's case.
The change also affected their entire respective fanbases. Would Pekora's fans give a single fuck if Sana came back sounding a bit different? I doubt it.
Besides, Kson and Miguel have already proven that people don't actually care about the voice actor. It's the brand and the Hololive environment they care about.

>> No.83435295

>>83417293
>unironically advocating for ctubing

>> No.83435441

>>83430355
Hey we just watched NijiEN do that for the last four years, surely with all the cutting and hiring they must truly be the top in the vtubing space by now

>> No.83435488

>>83417939
You're unfathomably retarded

>> No.83435530

>>83435441
nijien did everything wrong, including their culling
not a good example

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>>83417293
No, but I don't mind them doing that to their spin-off characters. If they debut Coco Kaine, San or a personification version of Aquas scribble-Neko. I would give no fucks

>> No.83435784

>>83435605
I also don't mind if they recycle assets. Example, if they took A-cans model gave it massive tits ands a wider ass and gave her long pink hair called it by another name. I wouldn't blink an eye.

>> No.83435790

>>83435530
Oh not just them, NijiID cut all their dead weight so their star talent Hana could shine with all the freed up fanbase and resources flowing to her!
Surely she's a regular 5view now

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>>83417293
Why do that when they have designs like these laying around? The could just turn concept designs into fully realized characters

>> No.83435890

>>83435784
>sees A-Chan with massive assets
oh interesting
>she makes a single sound
aight im out

>> No.83435901

If I personally watched and liked that talent, no. Otherwise I don't care. The real problem is that they'd probably be alienated by everyone else in the company because they'd find it weird or the fans of the previous incarnation would be against it and it could possibly be shooting themselves in the foot to interact.
At the end of the day, Cover and the talent are working to sell a personality.

>> No.83435915

>>83417293
I would stop supporting Cover in general.

Necromancy is the ultimate sin in vtubing and anyone who does it deserves to perish.

>> No.83436117

>>83435227
People spend millions on those pictures because they like and support the characters, they like and support the characters because of the people behind those characters. If gura and artemis were swapped at birth gura would be a shitter that no-one cared about and cover would be making barely anything with her image

>> No.83436927

>>83435842
These two designs have already been turned into Lui and Chloe

>> No.83437424

Nah. Anyone inheriting the model also inherits the audience and all the negatives and positives that come with it.
Might as well start with a fresh slate.

>> No.83437639

>>83421159
Thats the only exception and even you couldn't debut that under JP or Dev_IS

>> No.83439546

>>83422482
Rushia (pink), Rushia (kimono), Rushia (neko), Rushia (wedding), Rushia (bikini)

>> No.83439731

No because people associate the person with the model. It would never work. Though it would be REALLY funny to see Cover freak out if/when Gura becomes a sunflower and just gets someone to replace her because the model is too iconic for them.

>> No.83440842

>>83417293
>to save money or time
yes
>to reclaim old glory
no

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>>83435842
theres also these designs

>> No.83442055

>>83417293
Not even cover could get away with skinwalking a terminated model. That would really send the message of "your oshi is disposable", the former fans would never forgive them.

>> No.83443300

>>83417293
eww

>> No.83444529

>>83417814
>The only great loss from graduation was Rushia's model
miguel has a penchant for wasting absolutely good models. Both rushia and nazuna are incredible models that got lost in her

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83444603

I know this is just a bait thread, and I wouldn't support bringing back any old models, unless it was Hitomi Chris's. That model was pure sex and has 0 fan attachment to the actor.

>> No.83444848

>>83430355
Sisters are just feeling pointless now that their livers hate them and want to exercise group influence in a new direction. They are still too attached to the highs of the online woke movement.
They would love to cancel a Hololive girl.

>> No.83447605

>>83440842
Sana, Mel and Aloe have no old glory to reclaim. You could freely hire anyone new and odds are they'd be better than before.

>> No.83447707

>>83417293
Replacing Gura with an AI should be good enough

>> No.83450169

>>83417293
it just wouldn't feel right
maybe in like 20 years

>> No.83450614

>>83417293
No.
The characters are the models. Just make a new one.
Mikeneko's model was sex itself tho.

>> No.83451961

>>83417603
does anyone have a clip of this?

>> No.83453856

>>83417293
No that's weird

>> No.83454492

>>83435915
I'd like to see Cover do it not because I think it's a good idea but because I'd like to see how many people continue to support them regardless. I have a feeling that once Cover does it suddenly there will be a bunch of excuses and it will no longer be considered an "unforgivable sin."

>> No.83456916

>>83417293
i only support cucking phasecucks.

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