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How did Koyori manage to eclipse her genmates so hard?

>> No.83168653

>>83168593
She streamed

>> No.83168706

>>83168653
fpbp

>> No.83168745

>Lui: doesn't have mass appeal but otherwise didn't do anything stupid to hurt her growth
>Iroha: 5ch thinks she's a wet blanket that ruins collabs
>Chloe: Went full scorched earth on unicorns
>Laplus: the Mori of JP

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>>83168653
>She streamed?
>Deploy ze mane-chans.

>> No.83168838

>>83168593
She's a good japanese girl well raised by two functional parents, wasn't bullied, received great education, was a cute nerd for various DQ and card games before the latest trend which is vtubing eventually led her to be an hololive idol

>> No.83168854

>>83168593
> streams 8-14h every day
> is in every 3D collab and does all the idol shiot
It's a mystery

>> No.83168872

>>83168745
>Chloe: Went full scorched earth on unicorns
What happened there? Isn't she getting tons of SCs?

>> No.83168923

>>83168872
Yeah from lesbians who are after her, the orca is a lesbo magnet.

>> No.83169000

Koyori is proof that, with hard work and dedication, you can rise to the top.
She's not especially talented like Suisei, nor was she carried through lucky clips like Miko was.

>> No.83169522

>>83168745
>Laplus: the Mori of JP
Mori had a redemption arc and hasn't had any severe yabs in a while. She had that terrible MGS song but instead of going full Melty Blood publicly, she just carried on
Laplus is 2022 Mori but in a continuous loop

>> No.83169731

>>83169522
>redemption arc
Cuckbeat detected. She was never redeemed, as a person or as a streamer. She still ruins collabs by being an awkward as fuck weirdo who engages in self-aware cringe, she is actually the ReGLOSS Ao-kun of holoEN but worse because she calls herself dad. When she didn't show up to the Breaking Dimensions shill stream on the official channel I was extremely happy about it, everyone actually had fun without her "performance art".

>> No.83170074

>>83168593
Crack.

>> No.83171195

She just does the work. It's actually criminal that Chloe and Laplus still have more subs than her, I guess a good design and cunny really take you a long way.

>> No.83171200

>>83168745
You don't know a thing about Lui.

>> No.83171226

>>83171195
>I guess a good design
What, you don't like the Petra Sameface Council?

>> No.83171699

>>83168593
Basically >>83168653 and she has the best voice (and pink hair) out of ALL her genmates.

>> No.83171744

Yet another thread of cum guzzle- I mean mayo fags humbly bragging or asking rhetorical questions about their oshi.
If she were EN, you guys would be just as obnoxious as dogfuckers.

>> No.83172661

>>83168745
>>Chloe: Went full scorched earth on unicorns
I had heard that there was a members stream where she talked about how she might end up collabing with the Holostars but from what I can see, it never ended up materialising into anything. Is that what you're referring to or is it something else?

>> No.83172798

>>83171744
I don't have much invested in this, but you type and post exactly like someone who needs to spend less time on /vt/.

>> No.83172866

>>83172798
I feel like I've destroyed you in 15 different past arguments before, in my time browsing this board.

>> No.83172876

>>83169731
>She still ruins collabs by being an awkward as fuck
I don't find her bad in collabs but I can't stand her music.

>> No.83173031

>>83172866
I appreciate that you've given me the most unhinged autistic response instead of just ignoring it.
I don't know who you are nor claim to know who you are, but from two posts I can tell that you're a complete disgrace and you should really get away from the PC.

>> No.83173168

>>83173031
I can tell that you're the "ironic" type.
You have no real convictions because your subconsciousness is protecting you from the feeling of failure.
Similarly, you don't take posting on 4chan seriously. You also don't take vtubers seriously, either, it seems.

The benefit of a mindset like that is that you will be able to shield yourself from negative feelings.
The drawback is that you're also shielding yourself from happiness that you could get out of genuinely investing yourself into certain topics.

>> No.83173313

>>83173168
Oh shit, it is autistic. Let's run down through these then.
>I can tell that you're the "ironic" type.
Wrong
>You have no real convictions because your subconsciousness is protecting you from the feeling of failure.
I have convictions but they don't include going into a random thread on /vt/ and seething over the fanbases of girls. I mean, really? I don't exactly understand why reading about Koyori's fans also makes you seethe about Fuwamoco's fans. In your head, there's a logical connection but because nobody is in your head besides you, it just comes across as autism. It's something I've seen in a few actual autistic types online.
>Similarly, you don't take posting on 4chan seriously
Only to an extent. It's a good litmus test for the Vtubing fanbase but also there are a lot of absolutely worthless and retarded posts here that you should never take seriously
>You also don't take vtubers seriously, either, it seems.
I do, but taking them seriously and trying to get into fights with fanbases are not one and the same
>genuinely investing yourself into certain topics.
I have plenty of hobbies that I'm genuinely invested in. Arguing with retards on /vt/ is not a hobby and if you think it is, you're a lost cause.

>> No.83173918

Laplus is cute and funny. And she was really enjoyable in her rap song with Haachama.

>> No.83173979

>>83168745
>Laplus: the Mori of JP
That's an insult to the current Mori, Laplus is the Ollie of JP

>> No.83174032

>>83169731
Why are Mori antis are so tsundere

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>>83168653
Uuuuu this one hurtsss

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>>83169000
>with hard work and dedication, you can rise to the top.
HAHA tell that to 95 percent of the small corpos and indie talents. All that hard work and still they barely get anywhere.

No, anon. Its what you might call mass appeal. Plus people like pink haired chicks.

>> No.83174199

>>83174169
>HAHA tell that to 95 percent of the small corpos and indie talents.
They're nor hard-working, though?

>> No.83174504

>>83169000
She's not even close to the top of jp hard work is useless only natural talent matters just look at Gura

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>>83168593
I believe that Koyori's success is due to the practice of Lanchester's theory.
She strives to take both quantity and quality to the extreme.
Quantity is easy to understand with the largest number of activities at Hololive JP, but quality improvement is also taking place.
She chooses the games and projects that her audience wants to see, and she uses the theatrical techniques she has been training for many years to keep the talk alive.
They are also dedicated to expanding the status of VT as a whole.
They avoid anything that could be considered derogatory, and they treat the wider audience with the same courtesy and humanity as the yakuza culture of Japanese entertainers.
He is especially famous for his secret meetings with Suisei at a ryotei restaurant where the Japanese president would go, and for his gift of strawberry daifuku and letters to the members of the 774 group in the presence of Kazuma Kiryu.
As a result, he is widely respected by the holomen who hang out with him off and on, and is close to top personal favorites such as Shigure Ui and Patra.
She has been described as Pekora's successor, and she will continue to do her best.
She is not a perfect person, but she is an ideal player and will continue to be at the forefront of the industry.
But I hope she will continue to be an ideal player and a hope for many VT in the future.

>> No.83174679

>>83174624
Those people are there for Bae and not Koyori

>> No.83174688

>>83174169
react content is not hard work

>> No.83174801

>>83174679
Your father stayed with your mom for the sex but not for you

>> No.83175206

>>83174679
The important thing about this event is to let as many people as possible know about it.
The more Bae fans there are, the more people who don't know about it will benefit from seeing it.

>> No.83176512

>>83168745
>Chloe: Went full scorched earth on unicorns
What the fuck? She's by far the most unicorn friendly holox.

>> No.83176988

>>83172661
The moment HLZNTL was announced and she was in she basically told her viewers to suck it up or leave, guess what they ended up doing?

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>>83168593
>canine
>streams for a japanese audience
>top tier chuuba
who would've guessed?

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She got really lucky in having the parameters to be seen as PekoMiko's kid.

>> No.83179493

>>83176988
HLZNTL was a nothingburger where they didn't even interact with males aside from the game itself. Doubt anyone left her because of that. Most left her long before that because of the ghost shenanigans and the condolences superchat drama.

>> No.83179628

>>83168593
Streaming non-stop like a madwoman.
Truly the Rock Lee of Hololive.

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>> No.83179857

>>83169731
I don’t like mori either but I personally think she’s pretty easy to ignore in collabs (at least big ones), obviously if it’s just her and one or two other girls then yeah it’s completely cringe, but when she is in a large group of like 7-8 girls, she just blends in to the background

>> No.83179901

>>83176512
Lmao what? Do your reps, i’m not even talking about PL shit, chloe has done multiple male collabs before

>> No.83180010

>>83179901
Those can hardly be classified as collabs and the point still stands.

>> No.83180038

>>83179711
The whole point of subscribers is that they get notified of streams/videos, if your subs don’t actually watch your videos then they are completely useless, this is why subs is such a retarded metric for success, pewdiepie still has a hundred million subs, but saying that he is one of the biggest creators on the platform at this point is retarded, there are countless youtubers with 1 percent as many subscribers who get just as many views. The only benefit to dead subs is brand deals, because brands are stupid and don’t realize that dead subs are a thing

>> No.83180491

>>83179493
>condolences superchat drama.
qrd? I'm assuming it's about her grandma?

>> No.83180547

>>83168593
by leeching hard

>> No.83180624

>>83180491
yeah it's when her grandma died and she did a stream talking about it and didn't turn off superchats. people accused her of milking pity money.

>> No.83180846

>>83169731
Mori and Kronii are so feminine and based now.

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>>83168653
Streams get more fans.

It's that easy

>> No.83182110

>>83180010
Not the anon you were talking to, but is Iroha not Unicorn friendly? Or is that information that would get you banned for talking about?
I don't watch her but I don't remember hearing of her doing any male collabs.

>> No.83182321

>>83179493
>ghost shenanigans
I remember that being posted and people mostly laughing at it. Does that mean that the Japanese suspected the other obvious implication of the "ghost"? I wasn't following the JP community side of things around that point but I assume they were rrating?

>> No.83182583

>>83182110
She superchated Roberu and when people called her out she said she was hacked. She also lied about a bunch of other stuff. There are also rumors about her having a live in bf because when she collabed with Chloe at her place people heard her talking to someone else or something like that, I don't follow her and don't remember the details.

>>83182321
They thought it was a cover for a stalker incident or something like that, but it's mostly because they are just not very fond of crazy, unstable people.

>> No.83182860

>>83182583
>cover for a stalker incident
I would have assumed boyfriend rrats were the more obvious thing to go to but frankly I don't watch Chloe so perhaps there's some reason behind that

>> No.83183083

>>83182860
Surprisingly there weren't that many bf rrats. Think it's mostly because it was a female voice and even if she really tried to hide a bf there's no way she would come up with something as crazy as ghosts and would even go to the trouble of moving and doing exorcism. She also talked about how she's been experiencing supernatural phenomena since she was a kid so everyone just amused she was a schizo.

>> No.83183209

>>83176988
No, she said she had collab'd before with the minecraft thing and said the stars were no big deal.

>> No.83184143

>>83176988
>guess what they ended up doing?
She is still dominating SCs and her merchs sell.

>> No.83184797

>>83168593
3 of them hate unicorns, 1 of them considers the fans ATM's and the other 1 is constantly on hiatus and afraid to be part of Hololive outside of an idol worship gimmick. I don't really think any of them are eclipsing anyone. Koyori won her status purely by manipulating the numbers, just as Kaela looks like the most popular ID if you look at the right numbers or Kiara looks like she isn't the least popular EN if you look at those manipulated numbers.

>> No.83186294

I just find it funny that a bunch of anons just claim that Chloe "went scorched earth on unicorns" even though she never collabed with males outside professional activities (which get a pass from unicorns) and still in top 3 in SC among Holo in 2024 to date (and #2 in 2023), with her merchs selling well too.

>> No.83187293

>>83186294
Not to be that guy, but Unicorns aren't the only people who donate.
To take an absolutely extreme example, look at Mikeneko who still gets decent donations (nothing compared to her Rushia heyday obviously) despite having actually gone scorched earth on her Unicorns.
All I'm saying is if I was a casual fan of Chloe and I had heard that membership stream, I would have likely packed my bags and left at that point. I do think anons are exaggerating a bit but I think it's moreso that her viewership isn't super high as opposed to donations dropping.

>> No.83187507

>>83168923
>Yeah from lesbians who are after her, the orca is a lesbo magnet.
She seems like a massive dyke, so not surprising

>> No.83189207

>>83187293
>I think it's moreso that her viewership isn't super high as opposed to donations dropping.
That's mostly because she doesn't stream often and spends too much time reading superchats.

>> No.83189708

>>83187293
>I had heard that membership stream
Which one? I['ve been a member for a while so I can see what she said for myself.

>> No.83189756

>>83168593
She pandered to unicorn, salaryman and NEETs since her debut, avoid anything that can make them mad and streams a lot.

She is one of those safe vtubers if you just want to experience a virtual girlfriend, friend or just watch a girl doing stuff of interacting with other girls.

Now, is she fun, talented or creative? Not at all, she just minmax her appeal

>> No.83190137

>>83189708
I'm afraid I don't watch Chloe. I'm only aware of it because it was leaked to this board.
Another anon mentioned it was in relationship to the Holizontal stuff so I imagine that'd be the place to start looking .

>> No.83190448

>>83186294
Yeah, I don't get why retards from here say she hates unicorns. If I recall correctly she said something like she collabed with them in the past and MIGHT collab with them in the future (most likely meant sponsored shit that only larpers get upset over) but will be professional about it. She might not be the most unicorn friendly holo but she doesn't go out of her way to upset them and stays away from homos.

>> No.83190545

>>83190137
The only thing I recall her ever saying is pointing out the times she had interacted with males(failed to mention the NND event host which happened 5 weeks after her debut), that she collabs with music producers like DECO*27 directly, said that the holostars are no different from anyone else, and praised blizzard.

It wouldn't shock me if she touched on it again, she gets so many damn SCs in members only streams. I don't have enough hours in my life to watch that.

>> No.83191307

>>83190545
She was pretty forward when she said she'll collab with what benefits her. I don't think that counts as scorched earth. I think people get their talking points from discord after playing telephone game with hlg.

>> No.83192661

>>83168593
Human wave tactics

>> No.83193886

It's quite amazing how you can tell who here watches Koyori and who just spouts random vague shit

>> No.83197898

>>83168653
ayyyy

>> No.83198084

>>83168838
ESL

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